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[upper dome]

yes its just cause its a huge leap in complexity compared to the other characters, its just explaining how things interact and function, not specifying every little thing to do

[inland glade]

man the star ring is such a crazy weapon lol

[silver obsidian]

The new chars are too op

Too good

[fallen escarp]

We know.

[balmy plover]

im new at the game. whats the best hero for beating the game first time?

[pine oxide]

whats better extravagant consumpiton or rich's privleges

[weak quarry]

well, for most runs I prefer the former, I don't do skill builds often

[fallen escarp]

Nona, because if you use Iron Wing right, you barely have to do anything.

Gets even worse when you've got her 4th hero talent.

[wicked python]

richs is normally far better unless you have some insane extravagant setup

[glad iris]

Depends on what build you're using.

[gilded obsidian]

anyone have a skill related build for the owl in spirtual assault

[inland glade]

Got the owl's frame

[thin plinth]

I'm only missing 1 achievement now

owl related ofc

[rotund plaza]

Personal challenge completed - Wheel Saw melee run (R8 LW4)

[scarlet wraith]

are there any actual brick builds

[spark estuary]

Anything that focuses on crit and one shotting will work

[scarlet wraith]

is brick actually best weapon for that build?

[thin plinth]

Usually houses are made of them

[spark estuary]

Hee hee ecks dee

[thin plinth]

god I'm so funny

[spark estuary]

Idk if it's the best when Goshawk and other stuff exists

But it's pretty good

Pretty up there

It'll serve ya well

[cobalt dock]

did it yesterday aswell, Double tap with wheelsaw is more insane then i thought

did between 4-8mil per 0.1 sec

the spiritual link hits hard

[river smelt]

any suggestion to make the sting good? without abusing cat possibly

[glad iris]

combustion

[river smelt]

it does so little dmg though

[rotund plaza]

I didn't get that spiritual link but still hits hard

double tap + explosive bullet

[cobalt dock]

i would love Explosive bullet to do something

[muted flare]

Such a fun combo of 1 hp enemies

[spark estuary]

You could make it work on Ao Bai with an explosive build, and a shock damage secondary to Duel wield to stack up dat miasma

[glad mist]

Also work on lei Lou pretty well

[winged sparrow]

how to restore lei lou's E skill when killing monsters

[fringe crystal]

Magical supply

[winged sparrow]

thank

[winged sparrow]

who have tiger list Zi Xiao

i want build

[glad mist]

What

[wise oasis]

Probably meant tier list

[prisma wyvern]

kinda feel bad for bro

[upbeat drift]

Did the same lol

[wise oasis]

Show the rest

[prime rose]

Check the wiki or slightRNG videos on YouTube though they might be a bit outdated should still work for the most part

[upbeat drift]

Never

[river smelt]

were u guys camping beetles or is this organic

[glad iris]

Probably cudgel argus spirit build

[upbeat drift]

Crit shrieker build

[wise oasis]

Slight stopped making in depth gfr videos

[wise oasis]

Were your teammates upgrading too

[glad iris]

None of that really matters when you can kill everything with overkill dmg.

[prime rose]

His videos are still up

That’s why I said they may be outdated

[wise oasis]

They asked for owl and slight doesnt have a vid on him, nor on monkey either

[prisma glen]

+115 huh

[glad iris]

feeding

[prime rose]

Oh I saw they said tiger

[nimble flint]

autocorrect

tier list

not tiger list…

[balmy plover]

what is the best hero for new players?

[glad iris]

nona :u

[lucid nova]

Anyone except the owl

[red glacier]

yeah nona

[prime rose]

Owl with cards is pretty easy though

[red glacier]

i had a friend who almost finished the game first try with nona

[balmy plover]

k imma try using nona

[prime rose]

Do you get nona from start just by purchasing dlc?

Or do you also need to be certain level for it

[balmy plover]

i got it right away (i bought the steam bundle)

[prime rose]

Oh nice

[prime rose]

Oh, well I guess that makes more sense

[rotund plaza]

I got my friend to buy Gunfire Reborn with both DLCs

He beat the bear on his first proper run with Nona

[red glacier]

has he beaten the game before that?

[nimble flint]

Because if they say they didnt they lie

Yokul is only available after beating Act3 the first time

[safe goblet]

I have no idea what I'm doing with the purple owl

[inland glade]

Get Card Printer, Under Control, Lucky Day, Perfect Deck, Card Storm, Fate Thread, and just spam Q

You can ignore primary skill entirely, it's actually kinda bad

Go with a weapon that can magdump fast for best results

[upbeat drift]

Indeed

Enhanced hidden transaction

and plus projectiles shieker is very good

I gave it to a friend running the same build, and he went from 114 mil to 3.5 bil

[wise oasis]

did say "first proper run" whatever that means

[vapid crag]

finally back at 100% for steam achievements. time to put the game down and do other stuff again

end game owl just feels like it becomes, hit all your buttons at once and watch the effects
end game red panda becomes babysitter simulator

[queen citrus]

that would seem to mean it was at least their 3rd run. and could mean up to 100 runs. since a "first proper run" doesn't specify the number of runs that weren't proper

[queen citrus]

Shrieker is still my favorite weapon. I had high hopes for the brick but the shrieker’s aoe is hard to beat

[rotund plaza]

good news he told me he had his friend tagged along after exiting tutorial run

"for coaching" he said

so having 188 character joined the fresh start can go Jokul?

[nimble flint]

With a lobby code the fresh one can go to the 188 host and then follow into the end

[rotund plaza]

but this case the fresh one is the host

is it possible?

[nimble flint]

Should not

[prisma glen]

huh, interesting.

[red glacier]

were y'all tryna break the record?

[pine oxide]

whats better for sniper e build brick or goshawk

[red glacier]

brick

[upbeat drift]

possibly

[red glacier]

record is 218 i think

if y'all are down, im down to help break the record in a 4man sometime

[upbeat drift]

bet

@white cloak

You've gotta beat 3.4 bil now mr tiger main

[glad mist]

didnt someone literally post the other day a weapon over 300?

[red glacier]

show

that should go in #hall-of-fame then

[glad mist]

#1055548521861877781 message

[wicked python]

before the 313 it was 256 anyway

[upbeat drift]

What is the highest tiger damage?

[upbeat drift]

Hall of fame is unhelpful

[wicked python]

highest total damage is entirely farmable both mp and solo, no one tracks it

[upbeat drift]

ah

[junior wave]

doesnt damage cap out at some point

[upbeat drift]

yeh
but you can break it

idk exact numbers, but there are methods

[wicked python]

Damage cap has specific things that will make the cap go higher and a small amount of things that ignore it entirely

elemental effectiveness increases cap by 1.5x, ie 15M dmg per hit

[upbeat drift]

I used fire strike wing for that 90 mil shot

[glad mist]

The method to reach over like 200m is with an argus monkey

i don't think you can get that high any other way

[upbeat drift]

Monkey is a funny lad

[wicked python]

I think bleed bloody drill on monarch clones?

I heard bleed dmg is uncapped but idk if its true

[glad mist]

I think it is but the issue is that pole monarch takes 10% of the damage his clones recieve

so he's dead before you can really get that high

[fringe crystal]

10% from bleed

Or all damage

[fringe crystal]

Max elemental rage and pyrodominance, perfect scrolls AND a cat for corrosion wtf

The stars aligned

[upbeat drift]

yep

It was fucking crazy

[fringe crystal]

Fire conversion and you have elemental enthusiast

[upbeat drift]

yep

[fringe crystal]

Every stackable damage scroll dual edge, elite assassin, unfettered

[upbeat drift]

I just needed a few more scrolls

[upbeat drift]

I had

[fringe crystal]

Perfect blessings...

Hidden transaction too

[upbeat drift]

soooo

much luck

It was late tho

[fringe crystal]

I have 320 hours in tiger and I've not even had a run that good on gradual lol

[upbeat drift]

lol

It was my 4th run I think?

I don't play tiger often

[fringe crystal]

???

B r u h

[upbeat drift]

I was just trying to beat killswitch's 2.2 bil

[fringe crystal]

We have the same highest hit, doing the same thing combustion lol

I guess 90m is the cap for elementals

Unless you do argus spirits or bleed damage

Also why extravagant when you got unfettered

[upbeat drift]

I got unfetted last stage

[fringe crystal]

Ohh

[upbeat drift]

yeh

my run coulda been 1000% better

[fringe crystal]

Ok but

I need to know one thing

Does Ur brick have the permanent crit exclusive

[upbeat drift]

nope

just crit brick

I kept for the funny

[fringe crystal]

Still a one in a billion run

[upbeat drift]

meh

I got 2 bil with worse accensions and shit

so it's sad to waste this one

[junior wave]

would love a sandboxish gamemode just to see what would happen if you had lvl 10000 rng luck

[upbeat drift]

same man

Most my rng is shit

even that tiger run only had 50% good accensions

[junior wave]

best part is at the start spending like 1k to roll what you want

then having to restart

[upbeat drift]

yeh

I've only like 120 hours in the game

so I'm not the best

[unreal horizon]

Overwhelming Shield is a must-take on Nona

it's soooo strong

[junior wave]

for 12 seconds >:D

[upbeat drift]

yeh

[fringe crystal]

We roll with it

[junior wave]

reroll pains

[fringe crystal]

I just went with it, staying at cap is boring anyway

[junior wave]

also energy draining gamer

[junior wave]

[fringe crystal]

Raging inferno enjoyers have no sympathy

[proven topaz]

First day, first two runs. What's the point of unlocking a gun, if there's no way to equip them?

Secondly, can you pick a stage or is it just one long run?

[junior wave]

one run unless playing spirit assualt

[proven topaz]

Thank you lake

[fringe crystal]

Guns are dropped or bought from the peddler

Unlocking them adds them to the pool of droppable guns

[proven topaz]

Ok so once you unlock a gun they start spawning in runs?

[fringe crystal]

Any gun can drop anywhere

Yep

[proven topaz]

Ah yeah lol thanks

Also I'm assuming it's hard to find a game because it only matches you with people on same platform, difficulty etc?

[fringe crystal]

Yep

[proven topaz]

I'm getting 6 min queues just to be kicked for being low lvl

[fringe crystal]

Take into account region, time of day

[nimble flint]

Thats rude...

[fringe crystal]

I've never found a game through matchmaking

[quasi arrow]

If you on Steam you can check SteamDB for the peak online

[fringe crystal]

Those guys are morons

[proven topaz]

I'm on playstation, just thought I'd get info here since it's the busiest channel sorry

[nimble flint]

Hate peopleing doing that.
Kicking for level
In some games I can understand but here ?
The talent tree helps but cant fix lack of skill

[fringe crystal]

If you wantm there are team vcs in this discord and everyone is very welcoming :)

[nimble flint]

Its fine , just asking for general questions

[fringe crystal]

Ah okay

[nimble flint]

The platform specific rooms are more to talk with people of the same experience

but when asking core questions

The room really doesnt matter

[fringe crystal]

Majority of the player base is on steam so you might have some trouble finding console gamers

[nimble flint]

^^

[proven topaz]

No cross play I'm guessing?

[wise oasis]

no

[fringe crystal]

The versions are too different too

[nimble flint]

Nope

[fringe crystal]

Console is very behind

[proven topaz]

Fair enough I know different platforms are run by different companies or whatever

And dlcs don't match

[nimble flint]

Playstation is Playstation only , Gamepass can go PC or Xbox and steam is alone too

[fringe crystal]

Mobile is like a whole different game lol

[nimble flint]

Not run but 505 was contracted to do the Console ports ( which includes gamepass PC)

Duoyi does the Steam main game and mobile

Crossplay between the systems is harder to do which is why many devs only focus on inter system compatability

PS , XBox/GP , Steam

Lots more effort to cross those borders

Even Deep Rock sticks to the same system

[proven topaz]

Thank you all so much for the info and help, great community

[nimble flint]

no problem

[unreal horizon]

wtf? they nerfed advanced depot? why? https://i.imgur.com/Kibjdiw.jpeg

[wise oasis]

because it was op?

and even that is not a huge nerf

[unreal horizon]

you do understand that there are a million different methods to accomplish the same thing

[fringe crystal]

That's amazing

Depot got buffed LETS GOOO

No more -15%

[unreal horizon]

that's not a buff for mortar or wild hunt who needs the ammo

[fringe crystal]

Just get ammo belt

And bullet bank

[nimble flint]

The nerf was needed for 3 years

[wise oasis]

but do you understand that there are a million different methods to accomplish the same thing

[nimble flint]

That doesnt matter

This scroll on its own was doing too much

[unreal horizon]

compared to dual edge or spirit feline?

[nimble flint]

The negative was laughable

[quasi arrow]

In late game, you will have an infinite amount of ammo in 90% of games.
If you build Wild Hunt correctly, you won't have any issues with ammo.

[fringe crystal]

They have their downsides

[fringe crystal]

^^^^

[unreal horizon]

isn't paranormality and flesh and bones stronger and more desired?

[fringe crystal]

Only when paired with other things

[nimble flint]

Or their enhanced versions together

or Picking them in interdependant fortunes

so you can make your enemies misserable

[fringe crystal]

You'll never catch me picking paranormality in fortunes

Flesh n bones on the other hand

Makes enemies tankier + flesh and bone builds are nice

[junior wave]

i still have ptsd from robust defensive flesh n bones

literally bricked our run cuz someone wanted flesh and bones that badly

[lofty bay]

313 iirc

[jaunty venture]

yeah its 313, would be pretty annoying to beat because you're gonna need absurd red chest luck

[balmy plover]

how does upgrading with owl work?

[lofty bay]

I'm very invested in the single player max upgraded weapon

I was able to get 78 on my first go, and completely threw my second when my weapon was at +38 on 2-3

I'm 100 resets in for my third attempt

[junior wave]

no portal on the first stage is the saddest thing ever

[analog comet]

is the only way to get the firefox Spirit flame to evolve is to get that one specifc Ascension

[shut swallow]

Is there any downside to using transcendent arsenal?

[glad mist]

You miss out on the last vault chest in water and ice biome

[stiff oyster]

anyone wanna join me in general

[analog comet]

damn i beat the game in 14min in nightmare for the 30 min achievement

[fringe crystal]

No scrollfor he vault the arsenaonguy spawns in

That's about it

[deep ore]

ok, wolf gaze can be disgusting on SA

i feel like (and i can't prove it right now) it's scattershot orange and the aimbot orange seem to synergize such that the scattershots also gain aimbot

i swear I saw scattershots curving around to hit enemies

[balmy plover]

is owl good? i decided to use him and my cards just melted every enemy until stage 3

[fringe crystal]

you just answered your own question

[upper dome]

[scarlet wraith]

imo owl is least rng based character if u are wise

[upbeat drift]

obtain scrolls, prosper

[scarlet wraith]

so if high consistency = good then ya

[nimble oxide]

AM I doing something wrong? I Can't seem to make it through the second boss on Elite. 😮

[upbeat drift]

yes

[fringe crystal]

yes

[upbeat drift]

not killing it

[balmy plover]

so whats the worst character rn? appart from dog

[fringe crystal]

you need to hit its mouth when he opens it

isnt bird shit

[upbeat drift]

all or nothing

[scarlet wraith]

ignore unhelpful children. boss is tough esp if u new. work on your skill tree and learn ur prefered styles

[fringe crystal]

the ichy boss has armor which is weak to corrosion damage then health which is weak to fire

you can abuse that to deal extra damage

[upbeat drift]

If you don't have 500 mil damage second boss ur doing it wrong (joke)

[balmy plover]

is there crossplay between steam and gamepass? or does it count as a different platform

[fringe crystal]

and make sure to aim at the crit spots

[fringe crystal]

no, there is no crossplay

[upbeat drift]

I got a very nice brick

[nimble oxide]

Thanks, I do have a particular route I like to take, but its hardly consistant.. My main issue is just a sore lack of damage.

[upbeat drift]

Rate the brick

(ignore gemini)

[nimble oxide]

I like it! Its what showed me that what i want to do is very viable 😄

[upbeat drift]

Brick build?

I got lucky and made that one

[nimble oxide]

Kinda, Its more or less a crit build than anythuing.

[upbeat drift]

ah

I have one of those

[nimble oxide]

But the good little brick gave me hope! ❤️

[upbeat drift]

This should too

crits are very fun

[nimble oxide]

Jesus

[upbeat drift]

It was a mid run since I fucked it off

I coulda done MUCH more

[nimble oxide]

Makes me look like an unborn child in comparison.. xD

[upbeat drift]

It was R8, it gets harder and easier at the same time

More enemies and higher damage

but you do more too and get more loot

[nimble oxide]

Ohhh ok 🙂

[upbeat drift]

i find reincarnation easier than elite

as you get gamechanging upgrades that can be OP

[nimble oxide]

I see

[fringe crystal]

your talents are very important

get your survival tree up

[upbeat drift]

take gradual improvement for example, Higher critX the more crits you hit (capped at 30 stacks)

[nimble oxide]

Oh!

[upbeat drift]

You get an extra 8 critX I believe

[fringe crystal]

what level are you?

[nimble oxide]

78

Oops

[fringe crystal]

ah okay

could i see your talent tree

[upbeat drift]

78 gives access to most of the best ones

[nimble oxide]

Yea

[proper tartan]

What do we think about the run?

[upbeat drift]

E run I see

Looks good

[proper tartan]

ofc

[proper tartan]

whats like record damage in one run?

anyone know?

[upbeat drift]

Farmable so doesn't count apparantly

[proper tartan]

ah

in one hit?

[upbeat drift]

I did 90 mil

it can go to like 200 mil possibly

[proper tartan]

i did my 4B without farming unless you count not knowing which sniper is the clone

[proper tartan]

damn

[upbeat drift]

Noice

I got a nice run with monkey recently

[proper tartan]

nice

[upbeat drift]

I'm just proud of my shrieker

[proper tartan]

WHAT IS THAT LMAOOOO

[upbeat drift]

A fun run

[fringe crystal]

pretty good, get the bottom left of survival down

[nimble oxide]

Alrighty! I'll try to get on that 🙂 Thank you!

[upbeat drift]

What platform you on?

[nimble oxide]

Steam 😄

[upbeat drift]

if you want some help I'm always down for a game

[nimble oxide]

Of course! 😄

[upbeat drift]

just lmk when, I'm free quite often

[nimble oxide]

Are you free at the moment?

[upbeat drift]

Sure am

If you are willing to hop in VC and start it up I'll help ya

[nimble oxide]

Thanks heaps 🙂

[upbeat drift]

np

[upbeat drift]

See ya in team 2 vc

[glad mist]

I mean... I'd have to give that to a crit damage lei lou. you need literally nothing and can stomp any game

[upper dome]

ok do r8 max scaling with nothing

[glad mist]

I mean as long as you've got gradual improvement you're fine

any high damage shot weapon other than launchers (excluding shrieker) is gonna destroy

[restive latch]

holaaaaaaa

[rigid sundial]

i just got the game does anybody have any tips for new players

[proven verge]

Anyone wanna play with me?

[rigid sundial]

i do

[proven verge]

k dm me ur user

[rigid sundial]

are we gonna hop in a vc?

[proven verge]

team 10

[proven verge]

whoo wanna team with me and froze

[glad iris]

-lfg

[proper beacon]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

[rigid sundial]

wanna join us

[glad iris]

This is the wrong channel.

[jagged valley]

I understand now.

His name is Lei Luo

It's pronounced 'Lay Low".

A sniper usually lies prone and hidden to conduct his work. Thus, he's 'laying low'.

[wise oasis]

bro does not speak chinese

its because 雷落 (léiluò) means thunder fall

[proven verge]

wanna play

[glad iris]

-lfg

[proper beacon]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

[azure sparrow]

sorry what exactly is ascension fusion?

what does it mean with awakening of other heroes

[glad iris]

Just means you can choose an ascension from another hero.

[azure sparrow]

huh?

so i could like

with owl, grab atomic bomb from dog?

[glad iris]

You can be Tiger with pyro III

[azure sparrow]

oh ascensions

sorry

yes

hm

thats interesting

thanks

[fallen escarp]

It's interesting, but not as game-breaking as it sounds.

A lot of the actually cool ascensions are excluded, usually because they include a hero skill.

[fringe crystal]

elemental rage and pyrodominance is fucking busted

we should not have that much power lol

[fallen escarp]

That's pretty much the limit of it.

Could you imagine if some of the skill ascensions worked though? Imagine using Spiritual Flame but having Energy Bolt 3.

+600% base damage and an average of 2.65 Spiritual Flames per Spiritual Flame.

[cobalt dock]

you can Refresh your Aspis on all characters now

[vapid crag]

nice

[drowsy narwhal]

How does the damage from Nona's mech work? Does the strike version only deal skill damage on the active ability? Does the slam you unlock deal skill damage?

I had the scroll that gives me skill damage % from dashing and noticed the stacks were consumed instantly when playing with the ranged mech, before I had any rockets. Does that mean the default shooting attack of the range mode deals skill damage?
Same with the rockets, will the robots rocket scale with things affecting skill dmg/secondary damage or are they separate from the grenade/secondary?

[river smelt]

has anyone tried fox with pyrodominance and the weapon dmg blessing

[slate arrow]

have anyone in euw want to play with me (beginner)

[fallen escarp]

Everything that Iron Wing uses to attack is skill damage.

[drowsy narwhal]

ah awesome. that's what I was hoping for

[glad mist]

Yeah the game really doesn't explain his strike mod well in how the damage is amped

[drowsy narwhal]

what about secondary buffs & range mode rockets. are they the same thing?

[glad mist]

Iron wing uses the same missles as nona i believe

[fallen escarp]

Iron Wing - Fire Mode and your Hardwood Missiles use the same damage.

[glad mist]

so every buff to nonas missiles works on iron wing

[junior cairn]

Play?

[red glacier]

-lfg

[proper beacon]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
#1064937664870101033

[rain vale]

What is in your opinion the best scrolls to use with interdependant fortunes ? Scrolls that buff the player but don't buff the enemies, for example

[rain vale]

You can get Pyrodominance 3 and Acidominance 3 while playing as Li which can be kinda busted

[nimble flint]

Most of the times I look at what the effect does to my enemies so 90% of the time I pick up curses

[red glacier]

a combo of paranormality + flesh an bones ofc

[cobalt dock]

never seen acidom in the pool

[glad mist]

I kinda love picking up deadly curse and flesh and bone, turns the game into a one shot mode for both you and the enemies lol

[cobalt dock]

only the other 2

[glad mist]

i don't think acid is in the pool as it becomes an ability based around cats grenade

[rain vale]

I thought it was, and yeah it's around the grenade but it doesn't require throwing one

[glad mist]

I think they've taken out all the ascensions that work with abilities which is annoying, they could 100% just rebalance them slightly to fit

[glad mist]

Ye

[glad iris]

not really

you can reroll gemini

[glad mist]

Is rerolling a gemini a talent?

I feel like i remember not being able to do it

[graceful phoenix]

damn i love the new chars. suicide mecha hits so hard 😄 14m

and i was missing alot of skill dmg scrolls

[cobalt dock]

when you are cat and you just

https://i.imgur.com/KHnb0Bd.png

[balmy plover]

is monkey viable

[glad iris]

yes

[glad mist]

everyone is viable 😛

[lucid nova]

yea, everyone is pretty overtuned

cat and dog and green bird are somewhat balanced

[glad mist]

even then, painkiller or combustion cat is insane, dog can go ham with atomic bomb or weapon genius, bird bladed cleave with max stack is insane

you can get like 50 secondaries which all amp damage

for birb

monkey is super consistant though but usually quite weapon based as his primary is based on his weapon

[lofty bay]

I am an enjoyer of grabbing the monkey shield ascension

[quasi arrow]

what a wonderful name

[glad mist]

If only there was a supreme modifier

[silver obsidian]

i have over 500 hours and have never seen this high, or a hit rate of 101

[cobalt dock]

gotten +1000% before with some stuff

[spark raven]

is there a place where i can read what they've added?

like all of the new gemini and other stuff

[glad iris]

#game-announcements

[spark raven]

ty

[quasi arrow]

I was thinking about how to waste my time, and I came up with something. So, I checked all the weapons (except Thunder Storm) for Gemini inscriptions since they was changed a bit in the last update. Here they are - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18RXQ2CwF5L_rNU9PZYSrjywtVvCrTIMCI5ozSWNjuxA/edit#gid=0

[strong jay]

run ST25N8KGYYAJL4

[proper beacon]

To play with other players, head over to the Looking For Group channels and follow the instructions:
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[upbeat drift]

Quick question, anyone wanna help with a god brick run?

[cobalt dock]

?

[nimble flint]

You mean besides the lvl 313 Brick ?

The Brick to rule all Bricks ?

[keen void]

the what?

is that lvl possible?

hang on a sec

[nimble flint]

#1055548521861877781 message

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055548521861877781/1117310508811431997/image.png

[upbeat drift]

yes

[keen void]

holy shit

[nimble flint]

If you can get above lvl 313 then it would be a candidate for the god brick but as it stands that already exists

[lofty bay]

Hall of fame that brick

It handily beat the foundry

[nimble flint]

Yeah

[keen void]

Four people passing around Hidden Transaction, Plus a patramonial brick, right?

[lofty bay]

Yep

[nimble flint]

For perfect Brickage you can extend it possibly but we are reaching the end here

Interdependent Fortunes on 4 players with Arms trafficer gives extra upgrades

But the RNG to pull THAT off is unlikely to happen

[lofty bay]

I’m trying to see the limits of single player rn

[keen void]

now if the monkey got that brick...

[nimble flint]

Temp levels are not counted

[lofty bay]

I feel like I can hit 95

If not higher

[nimble flint]

And thus the brick brought silence

[fringe crystal]

Capacity overdraft

[red glacier]

oh yeah

[unreal horizon]

whys the 1 ammo magazine gemini so garbage? did they add it to the game on purpose to make the gemini system more rng?

The best targets are Tiger Cannon and Mortar, and for Mortar it's a nerf and Tiger Cannon the shared magazine is better

so it's just... why does it exist?

Who the hell wants a 1 shot woodpecker

[red glacier]

what's the Gemini again?

[unreal horizon]

https://i.imgur.com/CcTkgk2.png

[solid bone]

I was having pretty good results with it on a Bone Dragon the other day

[quasi arrow]

Im using Wild Hunt on Bird with Double Tap and weapon skills. And Dog. Should try Nona

[unreal horizon]

why pick it over shared magazine?

[solid bone]

50% extra damage on a Bone Dragon is beefy, and the dragon's worst quality is its slow reload, so speeding that up was a net gain

[unreal horizon]

with 160 magazine that's 120% weapon damage without a 5 second duration limitation and better than 50% reload

so again, why

[fringe crystal]

What is bro cookin

Use it on a shotgun

[unreal horizon]

someone explain to me how the 1 magazine makes for more dps than shared mag

[fringe crystal]

Or slow firing weapon

Its pretty good for cudgel

[unreal horizon]

shared mag is also good for cudgel

[fringe crystal]

Yea, with first strike

[unreal horizon]

if you get skateboarder or against the flow you won't lose the stacks from shared magazine

[unreal horizon]

or for monkey he can just fire for free and keep the weapon at max magazine

and keep max stacks anyways

so again, why pick 1 mag over mag share

unless you have a mechanic tied to reloading itself

[unreal horizon]

ahhh for bird I can understand with hail of bullets

that makes sense

[fringe crystal]

After reloading 3 times its 150% damage

[unreal horizon]

its tied to reload so his ascension is ammo conservation which is huge for mortar or wild hunt

[fringe crystal]

With owl its tied to last star and astrological magazine

Pair it with functional deck

[unreal horizon]

I'm not sure how good astrologocial magazine is but I'll take your word for it

last star level 3 is +50% damage and a random elemental effect

[fringe crystal]

Last star: when consuming the last ammo in your magazine, gain buffs by consuming an astroaspect in your astrohouse and gain buffs for what rarity

Astrological magazine: gain 1 astro aspect when reloading

[unreal horizon]

with a 1 second cooldown on the magazine

[fringe crystal]

Then bet it all

Though im not sure if bet it all works with nothing in your astro house

[quasi arrow]

But I still think that the magazine share with First Strike will be better. I've been playing around with this build almost since the release of First Strike, I even almost finished a guide. But then they released a patch and broke everything. 🙂

[fringe crystal]

Cause his primary fills astrohouses with pre determined aspects

Well its kind of an unfair comparison…

[unreal horizon]

isn't card storm better off with 10-15 round magazines with fast fire rates and fast reloads? which is better than magazine?

so like a woodpecker with +reload speed

[fringe crystal]

You’re saying mag 1 (a gemini) is inferior to mag share (a gemini) AND first strike (a blessing)

[fringe crystal]

You’re asking for inconsistency

[unreal horizon]

I feel like card storm is way better than magazine and last star combined

[fringe crystal]

Well early game you’re not gonna have cards

Astrological mag is pretty strong

Without aspects to consume your blessing funtional deck does ZERO damage

[unreal horizon]

what do you mean early game you wont have cards? you mean you wont have legendary? I set to epic for early game

[fringe crystal]

No, cards to spawn astro aspects

If you read functioncal deck

It consumes one to give buffs

[unreal horizon]

Oh, I'm not using Functional Deck

[fringe crystal]

Astrological magazine and 1 mag weapons or semi reload weapons are very good with him

…

[unreal horizon]

multiplayer I'm going Explosive Hand since I won't get lucky for my other 2

in single player I start with Ultimate Gambler

[fringe crystal]

We’re talking for the 1 mag arent we? 😭

[unreal horizon]

is there a cap on functional deck?

[fringe crystal]

For what

[unreal horizon]

like, how many legendary astroaspects can you consume, or is it like merciless combo that it doesn't renew duration and falls off?

[fringe crystal]

Oh its just 5s per aspect

It doesnt replenish stacks

[unreal horizon]

? so you can only get one of each category?

[fringe crystal]

U can get 6 legendaries

[unreal horizon]

that's 120% lucky shot chance for a blessing slot

[fringe crystal]

So you can get legendary x6 bonuses

Thats why i use rare

[unreal horizon]

rare isn't a multiplier but general damage like dual edge right?

so it doesn't scale for shit?

[fringe crystal]

Its base damage

[unreal horizon]

base damage meaning before weapon upgrades

[fringe crystal]

Yea

[unreal horizon]

like demonlore

[fringe crystal]

The thing before everything

[unreal horizon]

so a +30 weapon which is 400% damage isn't getting jack from that

[fringe crystal]

Actually we dont really know if its similar to demonlore

[unreal horizon]

... I don't get why you'd choose that blessing even if you built for it

[fringe crystal]

It might be after

[fringe crystal]

Do you only run cards every run

😭

[unreal horizon]

Uhh... if I want to win yeah

[unreal horizon]

I don't run Swords Out Bunny for example, because it sucks

I don't run Essence Chain Monkey either

So yeah I do run weapon damage on many characters, just Owl's weapon damage builds are kinda garbage

[unreal horizon]

9 billion damage? you farming the clones on the final boss? lol

[fringe crystal]

Its strong isnt it?

[unreal horizon]

ehhhhhh???? you aren't even showing your scrolls

[fringe crystal]

Overdamage is a thing

BRO

LOL

Go up

[unreal horizon]

oh yeah, that's why

[fringe crystal]

I zoomed in for you

Cause i thought you couldnt see

Whats your highest cards damage

[unreal horizon]

so you got the full armor breaker synergy, dual edge, deadly curse, ENHANCED EDS, and Enhanced Fish or Bear Paw, and Hawkeye Sight

[fringe crystal]

You wouldnt be able to get that much even farming clones

[unreal horizon]

and yes you can

how could you not? they don't die

[fringe crystal]

Explosives

Aoe

You cant keep him alive forever

With cards

[unreal horizon]

if your teammates have dogshit dps and you just spam attack the clones while they struggle and die over and over against it's easy to rack up billions of damage

or if someone leaves a UFO alive on a robust elite

[fringe crystal]

Point is you wouldnt be able to scale as hard with his weapon build as you can with cards

Weapon damage always scales harder

Because of the fact you can upgrade weapon damage with level upgrades and crits

Along with lucky shot

Whereas skill damage is purely off scrolls, ascensions and blessings

But in terms of consistency, cards would be better

[unreal horizon]

well if you want to talk about scaling, then shotguns are inherently inferior for not being able to proc combustion's damage

[fringe crystal]

All you need is a blessing and a few ascensions

Well we’re not using them for combustion, we’re using a hell because it reloads bullet by bullet

We need guns that can empty the last bullet in the magazine efficiently

So we use things like
Pistol daggers
1 mag
Hell

[unreal horizon]

you could use Shrieker or Tiger Cannon for that

[fringe crystal]

But a tiger cannon sucks in comparison

[tropic garden]

ok im gonna say it

[unreal horizon]

Does it? It does less damage per shot but hits more at once

[fringe crystal]

Sorry, for group clearing yes its better

[tropic garden]

Can the devs stop being cheap and hire a multilingual person to translate their games please

[fringe crystal]

I was thinking of a pole monarch scenario

[tropic garden]

this shit doesnt make any sense 😂

[fringe crystal]

When you ping some scrolls they show up as the chinese name

[unreal horizon]

if you're damage farming pole monarch then tiger cannon hits clones for free damage padding if you care about that

[tropic garden]

nice?

[fringe crystal]

No, not nice

Its a bug lol

[unreal horizon]

the rate of fire and damage per shot between tiger cannon and hell aren't that different either

[fringe crystal]

Elites and bossies target the person with highest damage

The aoe will melt

[unreal horizon]

the only problem with tiger cannon vs hell is tiger cannon needs deadly counter to crit

[fringe crystal]

Alright lemme explain real quick why single shot is worse than multishot at a point in scaling

[unreal horizon]

not like you're gonna get a full face of pellets with hell critting

[fringe crystal]

When you reach 10mil a shot its gonna be limited to how fast it can shoot

[unreal horizon]

15 with elemental weakness, 45 with combustion

[fringe crystal]

With more projectiles or guns with a higher fire rate, you can scale more with additional scrolls and ascensions

Think of it like gradual improvement tiger

[unreal horizon]

which is why angelic aura is the best weapon in the game

[fringe crystal]

Your snipers will be capped as they shoot slowly

Alright i guess youre a visual learner

[cobalt dock]

combustion cooldown

[unreal horizon]

yeahhhh you're better off with a slower firing weapon like woodpecker to maximized combustion dps

[fringe crystal]

Whos gonna output more damage

A gradual improvement sniper

Or an aura of venom right click

Both guns hit for 9,999,999

Per shot

[unreal horizon]

depends on if the aura of venom has deft hands or not

and if the sniper is woodpecker

[fringe crystal]

The woodpecker does not shoot as fast as the aura of venom skill

[unreal horizon]

yes, woodpecker is 10 RPS and Aura is 22 RPS

but if aura doesn't have unlimited magazine then that RPS is significantly reduced

[queen citrus]

just take a shrieker or a brick and call it a day

[quasi arrow]

Just use Ryzer mouse

[fringe crystal]

You cant win with this guy lol

[quasi arrow]

fking double clicks make it faster xD

[fringe crystal]

I stg theyre a hackers mouse 🐭

The model O has debounce too

You can abuse it to double click

[unreal horizon]

keep in mind that woodpecker gets access to Lei Luo's free body shot crits and aura of venom does not

[quasi arrow]

Btw, did someone know something about "optical" microswitches? like in new Razer's

[unreal horizon]

woodpecker also has an exclusive that gives it innate infinite magazine without ascensions or scrolls

[fringe crystal]

Is ammo an issue

[unreal horizon]

when reloading cuts into your dps? yes

[fringe crystal]

I thought there are a shit ton of ways to gain ammo back

[unreal horizon]

we're not talking about running out of ammo, which is a problem for aura of venom for sure, but the magazine capacity making you reload

[fringe crystal]

I dont reload with the auro of venom when i have mag share

Along with the common scroll known as against the flow

[unreal horizon]

against the flow, even with a 160 magazine mag share, can't keep up with aura of venom weapon special at all

[fringe crystal]

There are so many scrolls you can stack to prevent reloading

[unreal horizon]

so you gotta swap to foundry to cancel the weapon special or get empty on ammo

[fringe crystal]

I used the most common to give as an example

[unreal horizon]

I think aura of venom is only possible with ammo conservation methods

otherwise you run dry too easily

[fringe crystal]

Well yea

But its not exactly hard to setup

[unreal horizon]

I mean... ammo belt isn't enough but it helps

[fringe crystal]

Ive never finished a run where im building for an aov and not found ways to prevent reloading

[unreal horizon]

err... my main issue is the running out of ammo for AOV than anything else unless I get Deft Hands

bullet bank can work with ammo belt

[fringe crystal]

Enhanced bullet light, against the flow, bullet bank,

[unreal horizon]

ammo recoverer isn't so great

[fringe crystal]

Improved clip is somewhat useless i guess

Ammo recoverer has to be the worst scroll in the game

[unreal horizon]

I don't think you should rely on enhanced scrolls

[fringe crystal]

Skateboarder also works

With mag share

[unreal horizon]

skateboarder normal doesn't fix the running out of ammo problem,enhanced does

[fringe crystal]

It takes longer than 2s (dash cooldown) to empty a magazine of 80+

[unreal horizon]

but again, that's not reliable

[cobalt dock]

AoV sui with Hostile Gift

[fringe crystal]

Which is why i didnt say enhanced cause u said dont rely on enhanced methods

[quasi arrow]

Elemental Bestowment

[fringe crystal]

Thats another one i forgot about ^

[unreal horizon]

elemental bestowment has a 1 second cooldown for 5 ammo per proc

that's not going to cut it

[fringe crystal]

Anything that provides ammo, stack it with other things

[quasi arrow]

Last time it was holding my aura like forever, enhanced version

[fringe crystal]

Hes talking about only regular scrolls for consistency

[unreal horizon]

22 rps vs 5 ammo per second is 17 ammo per second lost

[quasi arrow]

idk why, maybe there was something else

[unreal horizon]

the new advanced depot shits on AOV ammo too

[fringe crystal]

It does, thats why you cant use it alone

Id rather just use plain mag share over having advanced depo at all

[unreal horizon]

poor mortar got fucked by advanced depot nerf

it was already ammo starved

[fringe crystal]

Double wield double mortars with infinite ammo is wayyy too good for how simple it is to set up

[unreal horizon]

I mean dog still doesn't have an issue since he can just regen ammo with an ascension anyways

[quasi arrow]

tao and turtle too

[unreal horizon]

you're probably not using mortar on tao

[quasi arrow]

mortar tao xD

[fringe crystal]

Its fast but not that fast lmfao

[unreal horizon]

turtle would need gemini magazine share but yeah he could

[quasi arrow]

I mean skills that prevent ammo usage

[fringe crystal]

You need a 2nd fire scalpel or angelic aura level of fast

[unreal horizon]

I prefer to smack bitches with my aspis than use mortar so I'd prefer tiger cannon

but meh

[fringe crystal]

Fire tower tho

Long fire stick

[quasi arrow]

we dont talk about fire tower here, after magazine share was removed 😭

[fringe crystal]

You couldnt mag share fire tower anyway 🤷‍♂️

[unreal horizon]

is the only way to make Jet Octopus good to get the exclusives on it?

[quasi arrow]

i was playing with mag share fire tower since release of First Strike

but yes, now you can't mag share it

[unreal horizon]

is first strike a multipier or general damage like dual edge

[fringe crystal]

Really damn

First strike mustve popped off

[unreal horizon]

How does hail of bullets work with star ring?

does it like randomly take stacks when it does the minor dings and then take stacks on weapon special?

[vapid crag]

Hail of bullets goes down whenever the gun would otherwise lose ammo, and I'm pretty sure star ring loses ammo every time the ring makes contact with an enemy

So it doesn't work very well

[analog comet]

Fully in Control
Complete any reincarnation difficulty without ever purchasing any spiritual blessing.

do i have to beat stage 4 ?

can i just go to inn

cuz i have such shit rng i dont think i can make it bro

[vapid crag]

I don't think so, since taking the stage 3 portal counts as a win in the logs

So you should be able to go straight to the inn

[upbeat drift]

no hidden transaction sadly

[quasi arrow]

Simple question. 45+45=?

[lofty bay]

idk wtf you are on, Tiger cannon LOVES it

[quasi arrow]

45+45=102

[lofty bay]

Single player?

[upbeat drift]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-gif-27475997

[lofty bay]

This does not assist

[upbeat drift]

How would I do this single player no hidden transaction

I would need god tier rng for chests

[lofty bay]

Yeah, good reds

[upbeat drift]

3 player

bad reds

no hidden

[lofty bay]

I only ask because I’ve been doing solo weapon upgrade runs, and that would of smoked me and made me sad

[upbeat drift]

lol

[quasi arrow]

@fringe crystal @unreal horizon Flowing Light with First Strike looks good too

[junior wave]

Brick is the best sniper

[upbeat drift]

yes

[balmy plover]

how do cursed scrolls work? i dont understand them

[fringe crystal]

They do what the scroll says they do

They give you negative debuffs which are explained by their description

[balmy plover]

so why pick them up

[fringe crystal]

Some scrolls give benefits for the number of cursed scrolls you have

Evil devouring sword
Good and evil

Evil banishing talisman: immunity to all cursed scrolls

[balmy plover]

a k

[fringe crystal]

In reincarnation with spiritual links:
Misforune aura: when holding 3 or more cursed scrolls enemies take +25% damage and deal 25% less

[fallen escarp]

Besides, you're usually forced to pick them up if you want powerful choices.

Like a weapon with an exclusive inscription, or a large amount of extra HP or Shield/Armor.

[fringe crystal]

From red chest options ^

3rd time unlucky gives 50% extra weapon dmg but you gain a cursed scroll for every 3 red chests you select options from

[nova minnow]

anyone else find it weird you can fire both guns during dual wield on mouse but cant on controller

at the same time

[junior sonnet]

Owl

owls Perfect

fuck thats the enter key

owl's perfect deck says it applies elemental. Is it weapon dependant or does it have a chance to apply any elemental

[fallen escarp]

I think it's random element.

Yes, this does mean it can trigger fusion effects on its own.

[junior sonnet]

ok, thank you

[glad mist]

These are honestly pretty low scores on both parts

[spiral raptor]

whats the current max level?

[unreal horizon]

explosion on death wolf gaze is sick with tao with the bloom spreading damage stuff

I have now been converted into a wolf gaze with exclusive is BIS SMG for Tao

literally just autokills the whole map on the same height

honestly felt more broken than spore

still think without exclusive it's basically a worse scalpel or angelic aura, but with the exclusive god damn

the spreading bloom with the exclusive feels like a virus how it explodes and infects

[fallen escarp]

For when Nona's down penalty is bad enough she doesn't get revived in time, or when you try to do a Falling Star build:

[cerulean tartan]

Does anyone know where I can find a high quality version of the title's loading screen background? It looks really sick and I'd love to use it as a background :3

[rare quest]

falling star build is unkillable wdym :copium:

[upbeat drift]

I am immortal

[late vine]

.

[fringe crystal]

are you calling me out

nvm i forgot i used my res

i was at max stacks just now lmoa

hard capped combustion :(

[glad mist]

Now do it with crown prince pyro and you'll crank it up to 90

[remote marsh]

how to changer iron wings form?

[glad iris]

skill interupt key/button

[fringe crystal]

already have haha

[proven coyote]

Hey everyone, I have a question: does Shotgun not have the share magazine Gemini anymore?

[glad mist]

Now go into spiritual assault and get the goblet to crack it up to 135

[proven coyote]

da, mb, I got the Wild Hunt shotgun with the exclusive inscription magazine, which became 2, so I can't reforged to get the share magazine Gemini.

[lucid nova]

how do you get combustion dmg with the mech? it seems to do normal dmg for me

ahhhh cant choose

[glad mist]

There's a strike mode ascension that gives him the element of the weapon not currently in your hand

[lucid nova]

ah

[glad mist]

Tough one, depends on the build

[lucid nova]

got brutal gloves

[glad mist]

I can't remember the negatives of abnormal speed and brutal gloves. does it just make enemies faster? and have them do more damage?

[lucid nova]

i love armed caster :D

[glad mist]

I love the new scroll that causes all weapons to have 2 exclusive inscriptions.

Works very well with the weapon vault modifier

[quartz narwhal]

If I had a penny for everytime I got a rougelike on console and then got it on pc because of the console version not getting updated I'd have two which isn't much but it's weird it's happened more then once

[glad mist]

I mean when studios are PC based and make a port for the game it's usually because they are licencing it out to another company, Gunfire have basically let 505 games handle everything

and it's gone to shit

What was the other roguelike?

[quartz narwhal]

Risk of rain 2

The console port hasn't been updated in 2 years now I think

Funny story but risk of rain 2 is the reason I got a pc because I got tired of waiting

Apparently the reason it's taking so long is gearbox is rebuilding the game from the ground up to be more like the pc version because there at this point different games entirely with some key game mechanics working different om console then pc

[glad mist]

It's because they had to code it differently as it didn't work with the updates and DLC. it's a small studio and making ports to consoles can be difficult. I mean historically most console game ports to PC are fucking awful, at least for the first month or so

And those are by massive studios with billions behind the project

[quartz narwhal]

Gearbox helps with the console version but they probably don't prioritize it

At this point update probably not coming out on console till the end of the year because like a month or two ago I think they said they had no release date but it should be out this year

[lucid nova]

thanks red chest

[quartz narwhal]

Going to stop talking about it very off topic I think

[quasi arrow]

You mean one of the top Chinese internet companies. I think they just don't work with consoles and give it to more skilled company

[glad mist]

Na it's on topic. It's still general gunfire talk. It gets talked about a lot tho

[glad mist]

Who???

[quasi arrow]

Duoyi Network

[glad mist]

I was talking about risk of rain...

[quasi arrow]

my bad

[glad mist]

For gunfire there's no real excuse. 505 are just screwing the pooch

Release the game to playstation without even updating console versions

They just want money

[quasi arrow]

Personally, I think they've taken on too many projects and simply can't handle the workload, pretending that everything is fine

And when it comes to prioritizing, they choose Death Standing or Vermintide 2 instead of some Chinese game.

[glad mist]

Yeah probably, they did the playstation release for a cash grab for sure

[wise oasis]

Gearbox is not small by any means

[glad mist]

Gearbox is a publisher

they didn't develop risk of rain

the team that made risk of rain 2 is very small

[wise oasis]

Hopoo didnt make console version by themselves, they worked with gearbox

Now GB owns the IP, and hopoo already stated hopoo will do RoRR. GB will work console from then on

[glad mist]

It's still primarily Hopoo, and they're again having to completely rework the code for the game and at least they have stated this and explained why things are taking a long time. 505 say jack shit about gunfire

On a completely unrelated note... Is Nona finally a character that synergises with the Icy Spear??? That weapon has had like no synergy since release

[uneven geode]

ayyye thanks for this! I basically threw a run with friends last night trying to get crit on a fire tower before we remembered “oh yeah, can’t do it”

[fringe crystal]

If you go to reforge a gun, on the right side of reforge. Any gun that cant get a certain gemini will show under the (i) icon

[balmy plover]

how do you know a occult scrolls level for owl? like if its rare or legendary or smth\

[fringe crystal]

Press tab, icon colour in the bottom right

Purple = rare
Yellow = legendary

[balmy plover]

so the other four are legendary?

[fringe crystal]

Yep

[balmy plover]

thx

[fringe crystal]

Upgrades are automatically spent to constantly upgrade any scrolls you own depending on the upgrade setting chosen

[uneven geode]

So, imagine some scrubs walk into an elite gathering. The craftsman’s right there, and the fire tower cat, who uses a melee like once a month or so, is trying to scramble and slap together a crit build on the fly. That’s basically what happened. 🤣

[fringe moth]

doing owl border achievement right now, is enhanced golden scrolls considered the same "type" as normal golden scrolls

please @ me if someone decides to respond

[nimble flint]

They are legendary

[nimble flint]

But you CANT take the red chest option to get legendary for a curse

[fringe moth]

ok but getting an enhanced legendary from the phantom peddler wont fuck up the run

thank you

[balmy plover]

im invincible

[nimble flint]

Very vincible

[fringe moth]

got it wahoo

i always thought owls primary build was inferior to his secondary but damn, once you got a few scrolls and ascensions shit just died instantly

[glad mist]

Primary is great.

[fringe moth]

when it starts zapping and automatically follows every mob around everything just dies, very nice

[proud shale]

I just wish it had a shorter base cooldown

I’d give my left leg for a 5-7 second base cooldown

[balmy plover]

does this things bubble boost card dmg?

[cobalt dock]

it should, yupp

[nimble flint]

It does with other skills so yes

[cobalt dock]

boosts other skills so

[icy shale]

lately when I play Li, i haven't felt very strong, especially in multiplayer
my strongest gameplay as her still saw my abilities doing barley anything except max energy fireball, it was my gun that did all my damage

[glad mist]

did you have her spiritual blessing. and just having high energy isnt what boosts her you need the assension that actually increases damage based on how much energy you consume

[prisma wyvern]

only played 3 games of ao bai. hes unbelievably braindead to play

[glad mist]

Mr shooty shoot

He's a lot less braindead than other characters unless you're doing grenade build

[prisma wyvern]

yea all 3 games was grenade build

[glad mist]

oh

[prisma wyvern]

always see people using it so i wanted to try it

[glad mist]

It's very powerful, and very stupid. But it's kinda frowned upon in multiplayer as it makes the game boring for everyone else playing 90% of the time

[icy shale]

yea i had maxed energy so i could full charge all of it, and level 2 firefox to evolve it a 2nd time

i was playinf spirtual assault and even had fire damage goes through armor/shield 50%

[glad mist]

Conflagration is the key to damage

if you didn't have levels in that you're not gonna be going crazy high

[prisma wyvern]

could see why people find it boring

[glad mist]

also it's not as strong in spiritual assault, still powerful but it really excelss with her spiritual blessing in normal

[glad iris]

atomic

[icy shale]

hmm, yea i think i only saw conflaguration once

[glad mist]

Yep. I wouldn't recommend using it in MP, it just becomes a one man show basically every time

[glad mist]

Confalguration: Conflagration
+120% .. +240% .. +360% Spiritual Flame Base DMG, and +1% .. +2% .. +3% damage bonus for current attack for each energy point consumed. Increase damage by up to +100%, based on travel distance.

Amps your damage up like crazy

[prisma wyvern]

yea i usually use nonas pistol build and its the same thing but ao bai seems like he can preform really good with the worst rng ever

[icy shale]

gotcha

[glad mist]

Pretty much, as long as you can keep your secondaries up

[icy shale]

is my grenade or ability my best source of dmg btw?

[glad mist]

I've used it once in MP when first trying it out, then have only used it for speedruns since

[glad mist]

For adventure - Primary

For SA - Secondary

[icy shale]

gotcha

thank you for the tips 🙏

[glad mist]

👍

[prisma wyvern]

i just like playing characters that require less rng to preform well

[glad mist]

Lei lou is pretty decent in terms of rng. basically all his builds don't need a lot for them to be powerful

So is weapon genius ao bai to be honest

you can get insanely powerful with little effort but it's not quite as BS as atomic bomb

[prisma wyvern]

I havent tried lei lou in multiplayer, only solo. from solo experience using thunder nemesis and magical supply build is super fun

[glad mist]

It is pretty good, it works decently well in MP if you can get thunder damage up. But also his crit build is one of the most consistant and easy to build kits in the game

[prisma wyvern]

yea some dude i played with and he got 3b damage and i asked what he was using and he said crit build with a shotgun

never tried that tho

always thought shotguns was boring

[icy shale]

dear saint, i thought of 1 final question to ask, what about the spiritual powers from mushroom man?

[cobalt dock]

Blessings

[icy shale]

yea those

is any one of them specifically better or worse for da fox

[glad mist]

all you need is a good high damage weapon with crit, get crit share and youre good

[prisma wyvern]

how do i change my transcendent arsenal it looks so messy

[glad mist]

So obviously you want the one that buffs the ability youre using, as for the second. either elemental damage, glass cannon or combustion, then pick up a high elemental effect poision weapon and throw constant combustion damage out.

[prisma wyvern]

the bow sitting in the middle pisses me off

[icy shale]

mmm i see, i normally just pick the mteor one

[glad mist]

Yeah meteor one is good

[glad mist]

you have to change it when you get to the guy next time

[prisma wyvern]

i tried but it didnt change when i did it

idk why

[glad mist]

Weird idk, i haven't used it much

[prisma wyvern]

is bunnys blossom build viable in multiplayer lvl 8?

[glad mist]

Absolutely

One of the most insane builds i've ever done actually done was a blossom build

[prisma wyvern]

really, i must be getting unlucky

i stopped trynna use her in multiplayer lvl 8 especially

i tried 3 times and everytime in lvl 8 i end up bottom fragging

and getting revived like 30 times

[glad mist]

It requires a decent amount of luck, but basically get her spiritual blessing that amps her blossom damage, then go for a fast firing weapon, scalpel is great to proc it multiple times. if you're lucky and get her other blosson build you're golden

It's not as easy to get powerful as many other builds

but it can be one of the strongest out there if you're lucky

[prisma wyvern]

my goal is trynna break 10b damage

idk who to do it with

[glad mist]

Lei lou is a good shot, or monkey. I mean it's hard to hit 10b

you want people who are able to do overkill damage with every shot

[glad iris]

If you wanna break 10b play SA.

[glad mist]

I mean yeah its a lot easier in SA

[prisma wyvern]

i was trynna farm the boss but the bunny on my team finished the boss

[prisma wyvern]

imma try

whos even good in SA?

[glad iris]

everyone

[glad mist]

Yeah literally everyone can be crazy powerful

check out the blessings on the wiki and pick a build, that's what i do

[prisma wyvern]

alright imma try with nona, i just want tanks revive

[glad iris]

Just hope the tank doesn't go down reviving you. :u

[prisma wyvern]

if he does imma beat him

[icy shale]

I hope we can get more profile backgrounds in the points shop like the bunny one

one for each character would be really cool

[valid osprey]

where is that?

also is the random FPS drops a normal thing on the Steam version?

[empty sage]

hello steam community I am new to this discord but have been pretty hyper-fixated on this game so hope to become good friends lol

[icy shale]

very well

welcome

[valid osprey]

also welcome

I'm new here as well

[empty sage]

Lol so many of you are mains for the top characters and Im here with my card trick owl 🦉

[valid osprey]

I just like Tao because bnuuy

[empty sage]

I mean I play Tao as a secondary cause she has the same feel as the build I make on owl boy but cards go brrrrrrr better than swords

[valid osprey]

I see

my sole reason is

bnuuy 🐇

[thin plinth]

bnuuy

[glad iris]

idk, swords can go brrrr way more than cards from what I've seen.

[balmy plover]

owl cards broken af tbh

[icy shale]

i like Li cause firefox, fireball, fire, and cause im not a fox furry 👍

[balmy plover]

i suck and ive gotten very far with the help of rngjesus

[empty sage]

I have him pretty set up to give me at least card printer and storm I luck out if I get the other max held card ascension

running around firing at least 20 cards every 2 seconds is fun

[balmy plover]

aiming? whats that?

cards compensate for my severe skill issue in aiming

[empty sage]

oh I have the opposite problem 8/10 shots end up as crit and Im just trying to body shot to get more cards lol

[balmy plover]

if you get 3 cursed scrolls in astrohouse, what stage will it trigger?

[proud shale]

All red (cursed) counts as legendary

[wise oasis]

Read the announcement again bro, its all gearbox from here on out