lmao yeah
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quasi arrow
Daring duck of mystery
Champion of right
Swoops out of the shadows
Darkwing owns the night
near stirrup
where .dll files of the d3d11 and dxgi?
near stirrup
not working
vague dawn
HOLY SHIT A TRIPLE EXCLUSIVE INSCRIPTION YOOOO
cold hedge
Finally
I can chill...untill the next update...
lofty bay
Maybe it's time for me to tackle the single player challenge
wanton widget
Which of the two new characters seem stronger and do either of them get close to fox levels of power?
lucid nova
fallen escarp
Owl gets more braindead damage. Red Panda gets more braindead not-dyingness.
tidal flax
anyone wanna for a room?
wanton widget
Any tips on building owl?
knotty spoke
twisted fate style
fair oasis
exploding hand and evaporate everything on screen
dark girder
how do you fight enhanced elites? I cant find em
fallen escarp
Turn on Mysterious Jokul in the Bizarre Dream settings.
dark girder
ohhhh that makes sense, I appreciate it ❤️
wait so all elites will be enhanced or just the ones there?
fallen escarp
All of them.
dark girder
bet, thanks
terse crow
I thought fox was busted but owl and Nona just feel like straight cheating at this point
fallen escarp
That's powercreep for ya.
In order to make this thing feel special, it's gotta be better than the rest.
Then in order to make the next thing feel special, it's gotta be better than the previous thing.
And so on.
terse crow
I wish the devs cared more about making things balanced instead of adding more op stuff. All I do now is go for achievements cause the replayability is so bad unless you intentionally handicap yourself
glad mist
Fox is still busted. A powerful primary build will instantly kill anything regardless of difficulty or multiplayer.
fallen escarp
But don't you see? It's all in the name of fun! You should be having lots of fun with all this super powerful stuff because winning is fun!
fallen escarp
Unless you've got teammates, it's virtually no different to the unenhanced version.
vague dawn
Unless you've got teammates, it's virtually no different to the unenhanced versi...
except i get to discard cursed scrolls whenever instead of only at red chests
rare quest
but you already mitigate cursed scroll from having EBT
vague dawn
true
fallen escarp
The only upside discarding cursed scrolls has at that point is if you need to recycle one for some quick copper.
But that's incredibly niche, and cursed scrolls often have better uses, such as red chests as you said and with Evil-Devouring Sword or Good and Evil.
vague dawn
true
fallen escarp
Almost always, even if you can drop cursed scrolls, you have no reason to.
Exception is multiplayer, which lets all cursed scrolls be dropped for a single player who can negate all of them.
vague dawn
damn i reset Lone Wolf and got Unfettered Will. nice
and i died
yooooo
damn im dealin hella damage with Deadly Curse rn
dark girder
that was fun
vague dawn
reset an enhanced occult scroll that i got and got this. nice
dark girder
good to know
upper dome
does iron wing scale on skill damage?
yes
dark girder
EVEN BETTER
gilded obsidian
anmyone have a build for the owl in spiritual assault
thorny solar
I did an owl weapon build with this.
gilded obsidian
tyty
thorny solar
Got weapon related ascensions and scrolls
Used a tiger cannon and some other sniper with the mag capacity fixed at 1 gemini
The goblets I used were glass cannon and final words
This was the results on a good run for me
Well, I think it was a good run at least
Might have been better if the stars aligned
honest light
Hi. What weapons should I prioritize on bird boi?
Are there even builds?
I didn’t know that
honest light
I tried rocket launchers, they hit amazing too
Especially the one that throws exploding bombs on short range and normal bombs on long range
Made normal mode a breeze
keen void
you got five general bird build choices
- Nova (All or Nothing / Oppressor) Pick up skill dmg things and tanking things that are NOT Flesh and Bones. Take things from "Fleeting Scud" and "Combat Expertise".
- Kick (All or Nothing) Take skill dmg things and choose "Fleeting Scud" things.
- Shotgun (Double Tap) Weapon dmg and "Combat Expertise"
- Melee (Double Tap / Oppressor) Weapon dmg and "Combat Expertise" and tanking things.
- Cleave (Bladed Cleave) FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY GET "Easy Kill"! then skill dmg and anything else for "Fatal Wings".
winged cove
Why does every tierlist I find include the fox as the top tier character ? Am I sleeping on something on her? I feel like the Bunny can do quite well and the new characters are also pretty good too
terse crow
Why does every tierlist I find include the fox as the top tier character ? Am I ...
Her primary skill is beyond busted, attempted a re8 run once with her and practically breezed through it
glad iris
Why does every tierlist I find include the fox as the top tier character ? Am I ...
Take red ascensions.
vague dawn
love it when i randomly get dealt a shit ton of damage from nothing and lose my run, when i was having a really good run 
just love it
vague dawn
you love to see it ;-;
bruhh and it was from a Catfish Grunt somehow. sucker shot me once and i died like ???
thorny solar
Only guess is that since you had paranormality, the catfish grunt's shock attacks did enough increased damage to kill you.
I could be wrong though.
vague dawn
Only guess is that since you had paranormality, the catfish grunt's shock attack...
probably... though i think i had like 200-400 shield iirc? At least enough to where it shouldn'tve killed me but oh well
thorny solar
Could have also been other things hammering down on you without realizing.
lament kelp
Lol, broke the 45 mil dmg cap :p
vague dawn
Could have also been other things hammering down on you without realizing.
pretty sure there was only one enemy near me when i died. i still call bs
prisma wyvern
i just had this run i did like the first 2 vaults then i just decided to start speed running the rest of the game, i had really bad scrolls and ascension rng but is this a quick kill?
restive linden
did anyone have issue with owl where if you buy card pack from peddler, your card pack become 0 instead of refilled?
rare quest
you may have one of that new scroll
restive linden
the one that use all when it's full and iirc give buff?
rare quest
yes
cobalt dock
which character can have the most secondary capacity?
sacred bridge
can anyone suggest me what build i should go for for the bunny, i struggle to clear even r1 with her
so far i only tried the sword out build but that feel so bad to clear mob and not even that effective against boss (compared to the red panda/owl anyway)
sacred bridge
what weapon do u use for sword out build?
angelic snipe seems to be the ideal weapon but it feels bad to use
cobalt dock
Magshare for that is stronger now
weapon for Sword out does not matter much, ends with a Macro for it anyhow
cobalt dock
its not so novel taping it 5-6 times a second
fallen escarp
which character can have the most secondary capacity?
Turtle.
cobalt dock
i usually do the funny, Lone Wolf- Field Proficiency and pick Overconsumption
fallen escarp
+15 from ascension. +3 from spiritual link. Probably some other stuff too.
cobalt dock
+15 from ascension. +3 from spiritual link. Probably some other stuff too.
wanted to try with the Overflowing waters that was mentioned
vague dawn
what does it mean by "for each charging second"?
sacred bridge
speaking of overflowing waters, can someone explain it to me what it does
it empty my secondary skill when what?
fallen escarp
speaking of overflowing waters, can someone explain it to me what it does
When your secondary skill capacity is full, you consume them all and get +10% weapon damage for each use consumed, which lasts 20 seconds.
sacred bridge
oh
fallen escarp
Enhanced version instead triggers when you use your secondary skill, instead of when it's full.
sacred bridge
so its not good for something like nona's rocket build right
fallen escarp
Obviously not.
cobalt dock
its good for weapon builds that don't care about nades
sacred bridge
okay, thank god.. i thought it work like the dog's atomic bomb
vague dawn
what does it mean by "for each charging second"?
seriously tho what does it mean by for each charging second
restive linden
what is this upgrade strategy in occult scroll inventory for owl? it will automatically upgrade if it's "that rarity"?
solid bone
seriously tho what does it mean by for each charging second
Holding down the fire button charges the bow
vague dawn
oh so for each second i hold down fire button it keeps stacking the lucky shot chance as mentioned in the screenshot, or just the time it takes to be fully charged?
solid bone
That I don't know. I would assume it builds as long as you're holding the button, but I'm not sure
lunar bridge
oh so for each second i hold down fire button it keeps stacking the lucky shot c...
the latter iirc. pretty sure you can't charge indefinitely.
versed vessel
rare quest
#1064937664870101033
vague dawn
istg the next time i die to damn arsonists one more time im going to punch my monitor istg
r2 rogue arsonists are a pain my ass istg
love it when i somehow get oneshot by a crossbowman even though he clearly wasnt visually shooting at me
lovely
right at the start of my run too
vague dawn
damn
fallen escarp
Interestingly enough, it's not the worst enhanced scroll.
verbal spruce
i just had this run i did like the first 2 vaults then i just decided to start s...
3 spiritual blesssings and on R1, it wouldn't matter if you had no scrolls 
cobalt dock
+15 from ascension. +3 from spiritual link. Probably some other stuff too.
i didn't get the water! 
wanted 690% dmg
fallen escarp
Nice.
rare quest
Nice.
thorny solar
I love this new gemini
Beat my damage record.
cobalt dock
looked at the goblet prior, closed it and discarded the Scroll via Red chest, opened the goblets and the select all/ lock down was still there, after a gambler refresh it went back to normal but select all remained
fallen escarp
Very interesting. So theoretically you could get 2 or even 3 additional ascensions if you did it correctly.
glad iris
Didnt realize depot was changed...lol
fallen escarp
Understandable. No one expected a reasonable nerf to that scroll. Or anything, really.
thorny solar
My friends liked the change to advanced depot
glad iris
Counterviolence GI octo is...something.
quasi arrow
Very interesting. So theoretically you could get 2 or even 3 additional ascensio...
2 for sure because there are always 2 ascensions in the stage 4 with that scroll
cobalt dock
guess they have hit combustion frequently
wise nymph
twisted fate style
you mean by running 3 cards and mainly beating the enemies with yellow card?
rare quest
kinda insane rate for just Act 2-2
nimble flint
Still one thing I dont like about him
You gotta reroll a scroll if you have charges if you want to recycle it for money
glad mist
That'll probably get a qol fix
rare quest
this is downright disgusting
rare quest
that's around 99.94% chance to cast legendary falling star with fate thread 3, and it doesn't even assume the chance of 5 aspect reroll
if my math is right
grave stag
Hi everyone! I just bought the game and I'm enjoying it very much
I want to ask, is there a way to select the region to play in-game? because I'm not finding players with matchmaking
glad mist
👍
glad mist
I want to ask, is there a way to select the region to play in-game? because I'm ...
matchmaking kinds sucks, i don't think you can change region
upper dome
Anyways owl primary feels a lot better now after the last update
glad mist
matchmaking kinds sucks, i don't think you can change region
the game does not have the best netcode, and even if you could you're ping would probably be through the roof
There is #1064937664870101033 in the discord to help you find a game @grave stag
grave stag
the game does not have the best netcode, and even if you could you're ping would...
good to know, i'll stick to my region
grave stag
There is <#1064937664870101033> in the discord to help you find a game <@3216511...
thx bud i'll try it rn
glad mist
What was the issue?
agile crag
have questions, play spiritual assault and have teammate that use cat but the smoke have all the element. how that happens ? is combo of items or they are cheating ?
queen citrus
there is a spiritual jade that applies all the elements on every reload. maybe they have that? or perhaps they are using an elemental gemini
unless there is a new jade i dont know about
agile crag
it is from the start of game and i look it just the smoke they dont shoot
glad mist
have questions, play spiritual assault and have teammate that use cat but the sm...
If it's spiritual assault, their smokebombs won't inflict all elements it's probably another source that's causing it. I highly doubt they are cheating considering how difficult that is
The only thing that realeases all three elementals is the chromatic reload jade
winged cove
Is Nona good for R8? I feel like Iron Wing in sentry mode takes a lot of damage on R6 and above
agile crag
The only thing that realeases all three elementals is the chromatic reload jade
ah maybe they are spamming reload to make all the enemies confused
glad mist
Is Nona good for R8? I feel like Iron Wing in sentry mode takes a lot of damage ...
You can heal him with your missiles or get the spiritual blessing where he doesn't go down as long as you are still up
winged cove
You can heal him with your missiles or get the spiritual blessing where he doesn...
And how does her damage potential compare to other characters in your opinion?
glad mist
I haven't played her a lot but she can be pretty insane with a full skill boost build and picking her missile assensions. Or you can build a pistol build with her, Aura of Venom with the spiritual blessing that gives lucky shot on weapon skill is crazy powerful.
One right click and a boss is gone
agile crag
The only thing that realeases all three elementals is the chromatic reload jade
just testing yeah I think they are spam reload, it's so OP for 3 slot jade
nimble flint
What was the issue?
Impatient child that already left.
Joined the server 16h ago, didnt even wait for an official dev answer and decided that if their problem isnt solved at moments notice its a refund
glad mist
It is yeah. Especially with crown prince assensions
nimble flint
Impatient child that already left.
Joined the server 16h ago, didnt even wait fo...
When dealing with international coms ya gotta give a day at least due to timezones
red glacier
and also devs don't work on weekends usually
rare quest
it's there for a good reason
barren wharf
At the mean time the game had no signs of removing overkill damage. Maybe this acts as a workaround?
verbal spruce
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/620314686717427732/1117120262656233612/image.png
How does this even make sense?
nimble flint
A rare case of actual downgrade when enhanced
it is as you read it and no you didnt understand it wrong
This enhanced version needs some serious rework
nimble flint
It shit
thorny solar
The enhanced only gives like
nimble flint
10%
thorny solar
One stack and that's it?
nimble flint
should give 1 stack
thorny solar
A rare case of actual downgrade when enhanced
Wait, what are the other cases then? .-.
nimble flint
Or they may have done goofed and intended it to work different
A scroll version of the buff "For every 10% ammo consumed increase weapon dmg by 10%"
Gonna do some investigations into this
fringe crystal
How are you meant to consume 200% ammo in your magazine lmao
glad mist
someones gotta do it
Imma give it a go later. See what I can do
fringe crystal
Unless you reload, shoot with against the flow and gain ammo back while using the stacks so they add on I guess
nimble flint
Genesis
Skateboarder
Bloody Ammo and Improved Mag
all fill your magazine or allow more shooting
fringe crystal
So it isn't a heavy downgrade, just a pain to use
nimble flint
it is a downgrade if it doesnt work as I said
havent played with it but the wording is a bit iffy on this one
will find it and let you know
ohh another thing that works
thorny solar
Oh no
nimble flint
The weapon skill is a hold to charge
you can spam right click to get insta 10 stacks
so free 100% Lucky shot
glad mist
200%
Aura of venom is also very good with it. As each shot from the right click counts as a stack
quasi arrow
Time for science
Now add 1 bullet magazine gemini
nimble flint
okay this needs to be reworded
The first bit is just confusing and doesnt even add to the effect
The time you pick up the scroll it does nothing
only after the first reload it starts working
and then its pretty straight forward
per 10% ammo consumed you get a stack, each stack increases weapon dmg by 10% with 20 stacks max and 200% bonus
Reload resets
quasi arrow
per 10% ammo consumed you get a stack, each stack increases weapon dmg by 10% wi...
I see now
nimble flint
@verbal spruce @thorny solar
Putting it on the pile of "needs rewording"
So yeah this is "just" a scroll version of the inscription you get
quasi arrow
At first I thought that with each reload it would give +10% damage, just like on the new Gemini
thorny solar
Ah
I see. Quite informative. Thank you.
quasi arrow
Needs to go
As I see it, there is no timer, so it can be abused using Advanced Depot. Just like Dormant Bullet.
nimble flint
Yes
Though after the last update base Advanced depot is a good double edged sword
as it can and will burn through your ammo
Especially Special and Large
Okay it needs rewording
Weapon Swap resets as well
verbal spruce
<@300582418409193472> <@334838210863824906>
Yeah, made the same realization once I had it and looked at what was happening. Thank you though
Only time this scroll is actually useful outside of other occult scrolls like skateboarder and go with the flow would be Star Devourer I'd guess
main canyon
I'm having a hard time understanding the new character, the first thing I dont get is about the "impure astrohouse" and what on earth that even means
pine oxide
does blossom enthusian proc blade of bloom
proud shale
does blossom enthusian proc blade of bloom
no
proud shale
I'm having a hard time understanding the new character, the first thing I dont g...
when the squares at the bottom of the screen (astroaspects) arent all matching, you have an "impure", or "base" astrohouse when you use your primary skill
proud shale
yes
main canyon
hmmm alright
what about the upgrading, how does that work
the whole "normal least, rare most, legendary most" I dont understand
nimble flint
You get "upgrade tokens" when gettin an ascension
Those tokens are used to treat a lower level scroll like a legendary for his skill
The buttons change the probability of cards you draw
main canyon
Ohh, is it a one time use then
nimble flint
Not really one time
main canyon
wdym
main canyon
ohhhhh i see
nimble flint
you have a certain number of them
main canyon
It treats a scroll as a specific rarity
proud shale
yes
nimble flint
each ascension goblet taken gives you another one
main canyon
Gtocha
proud shale
and the buttons prioritize how you want the upgrades to go through
nimble flint
basically ont one point you want to run legendary most
main canyon
That makes a lot more sense now, thank you
nimble flint
NP
opal stratus
but it is elemental already have two
main canyon
Okay so this is confusing to me
nimble flint
Lighting and Corrosion base and add a lightning weapon off hand
opal stratus
you want elemental effect for 3 ?
nimble flint
all 3 elements
main canyon
What does it mean by the probability? I thought if I had (for example) 2 blue and 1 legendary that's gonna be impure, no matter what
proud shale
yes
nimble flint
the % chance is for your secondary skill
proud shale
the bar just shows the probability of drawing each kind of astrohouse
main canyon
So
i dont get it
What does that upgrade do?
When I use fallen star, it gives me back all the astro...thingies
so much astro
main canyon
Yes
nimble flint
the icons under your skill
main canyon
Mhm
nimble flint
The % chance you see in the inventory is the chance to draw that rarity
main canyon
Mhm
nimble flint
If you have all slots with the same rarity thats a pure astrohouse
main canyon
Gotcha
nimble flint
Wildcards from curse scrolls are any
if you missmatch you get an impure astro house
now
The upgrade tokens you get from taking ascensions
Each token automatically upgrades a cards rarity for the sake of your drawing
main canyon
Mhm
nimble flint
Treating them either as Rare scrolls for "rare most" setting and not consuming as many tokens
Or when setting "Legendary most" it uses the tokens to upgrade to legendary
main canyon
You've lost me
nimble flint
It doenst upgrade them it just treats a normal rarity scroll as a legendary scroll when calculating the % chance when you draw
main canyon
Treating them either as Rare scrolls for "rare most" setting and not consuming a...
Not consuming as many tokens, i dont get that part?
I dont
im confused
Why would you want it at normal least
if you can just have more damage from legendary most
and how many tokens is each using
nimble flint
basically it consumes a token to upgrade a card to the next tier
Normal least makes sure that normal cards are upgraded first to rare
Then it does all scrolls again till out of tokens
Rare most keeps the rare
legendary most upgrades all scrolls till legendary one after another
lucid solar
newbie question, do i need additional teammates to kill the first boss? we are duo and tried bunch of times but cant finish the first dungeon
nimble flint
so a normal scroll uses 2 token and a rare only 1
nimble flint
1 token per level higher
main canyon
I get that
proud shale
newbie question, do i need additional teammates to kill the first boss? we are d...
nope
main canyon
Another thing, I dont get (xd) how on earth fallen star works
The description doesnt seem to match what im seeing
or maybe it is
wait
nimble flint
Fallen star has 4 stages
main canyon
Nm got it
nimble flint
main canyon
Yeah I get it now that i understand how purity and impurity works
nimble flint
cant kill that first boss. idk if we're doing something wrong
What level are you two ?
lucid solar
What level are you two ?
14 and 13
nimble flint
yeah thats basically just a few level off the expected curve
God , finding that data , gimme a sec
Basically dont be discouraged as it isnt expected by design that you defeat him after just a few level ups and skills gained
One tip I can give :
Do not revive with the jade cost unless you are about to defeat a boss the first time
It uses way too much Jade that you can spend on upgrades
lucid solar
aight so we have to level up first and do upgrades yeah?
nimble flint
Yes
terse crow
Is the talent for more essence when defeating bosses still in the tree or was that only early access
lucid solar
Get Gud but that is just meaning learn the boss patterns
aight thanks bud
glad mist
newbie question, do i need additional teammates to kill the first boss? we are d...
Unlock talents as you play, find a good weapon and learn what goblets go well with your build
Talents are a key part of getting more powerful
nimble flint
"The recommended entry level for elite difficulty is level 40
The recommended entry level for nightmare difficulty is level 80"
lucid solar
oh dang way to go
nimble flint
By design the game expects you to be able to clear it around lvl 40 ( was the statistical level around which most cleared normal"
its not set in stone but a good guide
opal stratus
Hey I want to ask for some reason the max hp that I collect with veteran get deleted/reset for some reason when I revive with tripple come back
glad mist
You get a lot more essense for leveling up the more you play, you level up very quickly so dont worry too much
nimble flint
Sounds like a bug, which should get reported on #1060159100006178816 OG
lucid solar
is there any other way to lvl up aside from playing adventure?
nimble flint
Nope you get ascension from playing the normal game mode or the horde mode ( which unlocks only later)
About the picture :
My recommended path of upgrades
Red = High priority , those upgrades help you big time
Yellow = Nice to have if you cant get a red upgraded , buy one of those ( 1 and 2 are orders to max out )
Green , okay but not run changing like the others , if you dont have anything to get and dont want to save , might as well
Blue are the last ones you can get as they change little about your potential in a run
Purple are MP only effects
White are get if you struggle to survive
lucid solar
thanks bud. haven't unlocked a lot
nimble flint
Also the character specifics you should get when you can
balmy plover
i cant get out of normal mode, enemies are nonig too much damage in later worlds.Do i just keep running and getting health talents or smthin?
verbal spruce
While this might sound spectacularly unhelpful, the thing you need to do is not get hit.
Staying moving and hiding behind cover if you can't kill an enemy between attacks is a skill you need even more once you go up in difficulties. Side strafing and liberal use of the dash is recommended.
Some characters can be very tanky for the lower difficulties, but the higher you go the less your defenses really matter
fair oasis
some characters are immortal in every difficulty
icy shale
anyone else constantly experience the rng kindness of repeatedly trying to get max energy+second evolution li fireball but always get 2 grenade ascensions and 1 gun ascension in like, 9/10 goblets ;-;
unreal horizon
Cry you didn't highlight Golden Touch as red?
nimble flint
Recycling isnt crucial
It can help but only by giving money , which generally isnt that much of a problem
and its way down
When you get to lvl 90 you already have established ( or should) some foot in the games mechanics and should be able to play
Getting some extra coin does squat at that moment
Etch and Reroll shop are far superior on that level
lofty bay
I forgot how grindy it is trying to get the single scroll I need
I finish act 1 1-3, then reset
again
and again
nimble flint
I just got ultra lucky with trying to understand enhanced cooldown
main canyon
I feel like there should be a way to minimise RNG is this game cause it can be awful a lot of the time
main canyon
I feel like there should be a way to minimise RNG is this game cause it can be a...
feels like an uphill battle against it at times
nimble flint
given the vast pool of scrolls you can actually get
lofty bay
there are so many ways
main canyon
Like?
lofty bay
I'm just looking for a single scroll before passing any craftmen
main canyon
given the vast pool of scrolls you can actually get
That's not a good thing
Well
If you want specific things its not
lofty bay
game is already easy enough overall, and you can get whatever blessing you want 100% of the time
I also feel like there have been a lot more search mystery chests lately
nimble flint
A roguelike is to take what you can and build upon that
letting more and more the player choose invalidates that design choice for the genre
thats why commando runs in RoR end up bonkers all the time
main canyon
Meh
nimble flint
You already ingame have lots of chances to get scrolls , reroll ( shop) or trade in via red chests
main canyon
A roguelite is knowledge of the game
The more knowledge you have of this game doesnt automatically make it easier, because of how heavily RNG plays a roll
Even if you know which things to take in the goblet, no matter how much you know you cant guarantee you'll get it
unreal horizon
Golden Touch is probably 75% of the copper you get in a run, so saying it's inferior to Exclusive Inscriptions or Shop Reroll doesn't make sense because you can't afford to gemini or upgrade or buy things without it.
nimble flint
Its inferior as progression wasnt that much different when it didnt exist
And Gemini reroll ability isnt life or death in a run
lofty bay
A roguelite is knowledge of the game
and that knowledge should be able to carry regardless of your drops
nimble flint
Money during a fight does shit , the stats and effects you gain are worth more
unreal horizon
In solo you can just run Miasma and get survival perks with Battlefield Supply then
main canyon
But thats the point of a rogue type game
Not really
unreal horizon
that doesn't make sense
glad iris
The game becomes easier the more knowledge you have.
lofty bay
imo, that game knowledge should center mostly on mechanics and attack patterns, and less on "I need this combo because it's strong"
nimble flint
Knowledge is knowing about these combos and planning for potential drops in the run
But also about playing around it if you dont get it
unreal horizon
According to the logic of your tier list, you might as well hard focus survival with Battlefield Supply and run Miasma in single player
lofty bay
mmm, it feels cursed actually seeking out EoP
nimble flint
Battlefield Supply is a lvl 10 skill , early on you dont have that many secondary skill charges so early players tend to get the ascensions that increase capacity
Most new players only have Prince unlocked at that stage which is a waste of an acension to grab for extra nades instead of other more directly usefull things
So yes
lofty bay
WE'RE COOKING
nimble flint
Battlefield Supply is a hard track early on due to players being limited in choice
lofty bay
54 RESTARTS LATER
winged cove
WE'RE COOKING
THE BIGGEST JOKE EVER (33% feels more like 10% to me 
)
Probably just my luck
But still sad
winged cove
Trying a build or challenge?
lofty bay
High weapon upgrade level in solo
nimble flint
Sef you doing with Fortunes ?
Also science has been invoked
I will be back in probably 40mins
lofty bay
Yeah, I think so
lofty bay
I'm getting real sick of these bleeding agressive beyblade boyos
icy shale
personal opinion, does it feel like dog is easily capable performing incredibly well without having to learn a whole song and dance routine to anyone else. just dual wield and brrrrrr everything away
nimble flint
Learn the ways of Dual Hippo
lofty bay
duel auras my beloved
icy shale
granted i've also seen Li run through the game spamming Q and it almost oneshotting everything it touched but i play almost exclusively with atleast 1 other person
so 300% hp enemies is my default
lofty bay
big
icy shale
many enhancements
lofty bay
Eye of Prov already paying for itself
lofty bay
what smgs
prisma glen
angelic
glad iris
with who
glad iris
sounds like a smg issue
prisma glen
the owl
angelic can be op but most of the times its bad if you dont have the right card things
winged cove
Do the missiles the chicken launches also count as Hardwood Missiles for the ascensions that increase HM damage?
lofty bay
na, it was 5 and 8
fair oasis
star owl build is just weak
nimble flint
same difference Sef
lofty bay
I remember because 8 round burst is actually so stupid
prisma glen
wait huh
glad iris
I forgot burst angelic existed. Why did you remind me.
prisma glen
i dont think we are talking about the same guns lmao
since when does angelic have burst?
nimble flint
We are
prisma glen
lofty bay
since when does angelic have burst?
used to
nimble flint
we are talking about why it was shit back then
prisma glen
yeah but doesnt anymore
lofty bay
it got a glow up
prisma wyvern
can anyone suggest me what build i should go for for the bunny, i struggle to cl...
Blossom clears rooms the fastest. If u get spores on rainbow with ammo excavator that's even better
winged cove
Do the missiles the chicken launches also count as Hardwood Missiles for the asc...
Just answering myself here but yeah. It does.
inland glade
just tried the owl for the first time
no real clue what I'm doing but hey Card Storm and Perfect Hand seemed to carry the entire run lol
lofty bay
Fortunes from Arms Trafficer Scroll gives extra upgrades
I got it in act 4 
lofty bay
attempt 1 solo weapon leveling
tawny shard
Any good builds for the Owl yet? I finally understand him a bit but not completely..
weak quarry
card build is as braindead as any other secondary build
the most fun for me is occult booster, overconsumption and focus on the weapon part
get the gemini to force magsize to be 1 to synergize with his 1-mag ascensions and go to town
Hell is probably the best 1-mag weapon for this, but you can try a lot of punchy weapons out
winged cove
Any good builds for the Owl yet? I finally understand him a bit but not complete...
Not a build but roughly the idea behind him/her/idk is: reroll scrolls for higher rarity and synergy (since they affect the draw chance of your cards), use Q to get cards and fill up the slots (astrohouse) in the bottom of your screen with the same color scrolls (astroforecast) , throw away your E in a place where it won't hit (considering you have his passives upgraded) an enemy to get it back at 0 cooldown if the slots are of different colors (impure astrohouse), keep flipping cards with Q for damage and when you have a pura astrohouse of any rarity throw it at an enemy.
I may be completely wrong but that is what I got from his skill kit
Although I feel like the primary skill lacks damage for the amount of inconsistency it has early to mid game (late game you almost always draw legendary astroaspects due to the amount of good scrolls you have), and it also lacks in comparison to the secondary skill
Overall I like the new birb a lot, especially because you can mitigate a bad RNG by flipping the scrolls
inland glade
For the first time ever I got Enhanced Thunder Step
And good lord that scroll is so insanely overtuned
deep ore
jet octopus is really not good
it's annoyingly not good
it's almost good
the worst kind of not good
fallen escarp
And good lord that scroll is so insanely overtuned
Interestingly, it's not the most overtuned.
That trophy probably goes to Energy Sandals.
nimble flint
jet octopus is really not good
Had no issue with it in my last R1 run
Cant be that bad then
Not the greatest but the secondary can do good dmg
deep ore
well
in spiritual assault it makes a lot of promises it doesn't deliver on
it has so much potential given its setup
but for some reason it just cannot deliver
the priamry fire is absolutely busted... until suddenly it's not doing any damage anymore... and the secondary fire is too single target focused to be useful in mobclearing
ive tried everything short of spores and i'm 99% sure even that isn't going to work because it's main problem is that it fires so. fucking. slow
inland glade
That trophy probably goes to Energy Sandals.
Oh definitely, but those are both disgusting with the turtle's Irrepressible Surge ascension
deep ore
it doesn't work on tao cause it's too ammo efficient
it can't proc warlike blade
lmao
maybe Li...
inland glade
Speaking of Warlike Blade, that is one of the funniest ascensions to get from Ascension Fusion on the dog
deep ore
oh
it's also possibly bugged!
primary fire is literally completely unable to affect Kappas
in any way
it can't break their orbs nor can it damage them when they have them up
there is literally no other gun in the game that does this
so any time a kappa is on screen you have to spend the ful second to swap from primary to secondary fire and hope you're in range
nimble flint
So uhhh
Li is definitely unstopable with a fire jet octopus in Assault
Entire groups of enmies just pop when i fly above them and suck their life essence dry
The red ones I just got now from event reward
Didnt have them for the run so far
Put I had penetrating flame
queen plover
Finally gonna be level 60 here in a few minutes, excited to try assault ^_^
wise oasis
Entire groups of enmies just pop when i fly above them and suck their life essen...
you do what now????
nimble flint
Yeah you read right
if you have juiced up speed from multiple stacks of copy capt agile and the double jump
you essentially fly across the map
- Stronger Arrow and Backpack
But thats the load out
I would dare to say Jet Octopus performs even better in Assault than normal
Also had been so long that I played assault that I forgot Gluttony's mechanic
And I can note that you dont need to hug him to be able to be in range for primary fire
You can stand at the back to mid ish of the ring and still suck him dry
lofty bay
time to make Gluttony a Pole Monarch substitute
deep ore
Li is definitely unstopable with a fire jet octopus in Assault
yeah uhhh not my experience
i guess if you have that
but if you don
it's literally completely hamstrung by the late kappas
you cannot survive it
this has to be a bug
deep ore
actually even if you do you still die to the kappas because critting with 0 damage is still 0 damage
nimble flint
when they fly they cant be targeted by the thing
deep ore
yeah
nimble flint
that is a bug
deep ore
honestly gonna drop the weapon until that's fixed because UGH
nimble flint
which doesnt impact he weapon when performing normally though
You do know there is a desert assault right ?
no Kappas
nimble flint
Then thats not the weapons fault by design
deep ore
they'r always in other rooms
nimble flint
Didnt really have that issue
deep ore
well, being literally nonfunctional against one of the main enemy types in late game kind of it's fault :\
nimble flint
Not its design and functionality
deep ore
well honestly li seems to be the only character it really works for
nimble flint
A bug prevents interaction in a state of a specific enemy
deep ore
and it relies on the "smarter not harder" method of dealing damage because otherwise it can't put out enough to actually keep up with SA scaling
deep ore
im aware it COULD work with li
i have een trying for the last 3 hours to figure out a way to work it
but it's still frustratingly held back by its bug and low firerate
that said this did at least improve my opinion a little bit, given that before it seemed like it was going to be a gun that worked with absolutely nobody!
now that that's established
it's time to test if Zi Xiao can make Tiger Cannon function 🙂
nimble flint
Qing seems to work as well
Despite me being utterly cursed
And not doing a skill build
Victory rush works on the Octopus
And merciless combo racks up stupid hit counts
YES
ALL THE RED CHEST AND NO CONSEQUENCE
fallen escarp
Just what you needed. Terminal Lucidity.
keen void
Victory rush works on the Octopus
victory rush works on everything now
nimble flint
I mean multiple stacks
not the single hit
Since it absorbs from all enemies within range
fallen escarp
Needs 4-8 hits to get the biggest bonus.
lofty bay
mans cursing more than a 12 year old in a COD lobby
shrewd pulsar
Look my shield
fallen escarp
Fun fact: Paranormality and 1 ascension of his can achieve that and more.
nova minnow
im more surprised to see 2 xings in same lobby
vague dawn
only on 1st stage of Duo Fjord and got this build on owl. this shit go crazy bro. as long as i maintain my distance, swap weapons when needed cuz of enhanced deflection shield, and just keep myself in midair as much as i can cuz of enhanced mid-air strike, i take virtually no damage, and ultimate firearm as my starting Spiritual Blessing, and Counterviolence, Functional Deck, and Armed Caster as my 3 i've gained throughout this run, man i've gotten a good run. absolutely love it
brief respite is the last one at the bottom
took evil-devouring sword just in case tho
pine oxide
best q build on tiger
upper dome
There is only one secondary build on tiger
spark estuary
so does Lei Luo only have one viable build? or can he use a couple of different ones on the highest difficulty?
fallen escarp
you can go for bounces or lightning governer
That's basically the same thing just different priorities.
Because for a true Chain Lightning build, you want both.
vague dawn
it is done
wicked python
spark estuary
thunder and glory, gradual improvement, etc
alright dope
this guide from 2021 might be a bit outdated then
fallen escarp
I don't think Chain Lightning was even viable back then.
spark estuary
how do yo ueven do that? lmao
spark estuary
I don't think Chain Lightning was even viable back then.
yeah the guide was talking down chain lightning left and right lmao\
fallen escarp
Nowadays it's not... unviable, but it ain't no Thunder & Glory either.
opal stratus
I thought chain lightning was really weak
lofty bay
yeah, was
cobalt dock
the boys
opal stratus
now it appears in speedrun
cobalt dock
do Argus monkey spirit thingi next
wicked python
do Argus monkey spirit thingi next
eventually
opal stratus
man nobody play reincarnation?
fallen escarp
Everyone plays Reincarnation.
Because unless you're climbing the difficulties, it's either the only place you can seek a challenge (as long as you set severe self-imposed challenges) or it's the best place to have fun because it's so piss easy that you can turn your brain off.
vague dawn
so say for instance, i had 24 charges for my q, would overflowing waters grant me +240% weapon dmg upon reaching my max secondary charge limit
fallen escarp
Yes.
vague dawn
DAMN
what do you think is the highest dmg boost someone has gotten using a build based around Overflowing Waters lol
cobalt dock
thorny solar
Nice
vague dawn
nice
fallen escarp
Theoretically the cap is +780%.
thorny solar
#(Space)[Text]
fallen escarp
Turtle (8) with Dark Tide 3 (15) and his punch spiritual link (3)...
Multiplied by 3 from Endless Assault and Double Exhilaration, total of 78.
vague dawn
`#(Space)[Text]`
wait so do i include the (space) in the text or no?
thorny solar
Yes
Space inbetween the pound symbol and the text
thorny solar
Yeah
Up to three symbols, each one makes it smaller and smaller
Like
I love Ao Bai
I love Li
I don't like Tao
wise oasis
this guide from 2021 might be a bit outdated then
what guide
spark estuary
steam guide i found
wise oasis
that was before they buffed thunder and glory, so outdated yea
and high powered arc was buffed as well
glad iris
Does counterviolence work like wfg with injectors?
vague dawn
may or may not have managed to get a max secondary limit of like 80. imagine if i Overflowing Waters by now 0.o that shit would be crazy
well nvm
fucking Desert Coyote killed me
fml then
nice
mighty forge
Does this talent work in a way that it multiplies damage with weapons by Iron Wing's damage?
fallen escarp
Theoretically yes.
upper dome
nice
cold jetty
Question: when will the new SA map come out? According to the roadmap its already out? But I can't see it
wicked python
It's the desert map. You should have it unlocked if you've beaten the regular game before.
glad iris
It's not out yet.
glad iris
Also I don't think the roadmap says it's out yet.
I think they would have put the "done" icon over it.
But it's positioned over bizzarre dream.
glad iris
trying to run as wheel saw melee
Lei Luo, counterviolence + GI. gg.
and also take 1 mag gemini
Also the desert map was quarter 1
rotund plaza
and also take 1 mag gemini
about 1 mag gemini, I wonder which dmg to check if it's higher or lower
fringe crystal
Whatever gun you have does higher base damage gets the reload buff
rotund plaza
like, is it count at base weapon dmg at +0, and does it count all shotgun projectile?
fringe crystal
So if you drop one of the guns and compare the one on the floor with your held, whatever the game says does more damage with the arrows gets the buffs
Yes it counts with all the projectiles
I mean ive used a hell and mag 1’d with a frenzied shark
A wild hunt with frenzied shark
Should work fine
rotund plaza
so in my case I want to do wheel saw melee run
I have to pair with higher dmg to get +70% lucky shot chance since reload time has no effect
glad iris
Either way the weapon gets a buff
rotund plaza
Either way the weapon gets a buff
+50% weapon dmg 3 times still good ik
and I also learned that right clicking wheel saw while full magazine doesn't count as reloading
red glacier
tryna get all cursed scrolls
prisma glen
tryna get all cursed scrolls
why
glad mist
You've got a lot more to get lol
glad iris
I don't think it's possible in single player
wicked python
It might be possible via fortunes, but you're getting incredibly lucky in order for it to happen regardless.
glad iris
But can you get multiplayer cursed scrolls in single player?
upper dome
ya need to get 3rd time early on and get one from every chest almost
lunar bridge
tryna get all cursed scrolls
seeing this made me wonder something.
how does Take It All interact with 3rd Time Unlucky, if at all?
cuz selecting any of the option in a red chest ticks 1 counter onto 3rd Time Unlucky, but is Take It All able to tick the counter up to 3 times, considering red chests have a max(?) options of 3? 🤔
glad mist
we like funny robot man
He's a mech ridden by a chicken
dark pendant
hi, I'm trying to find Poisonous Ghost's enhanced weapon ( Increases rate of fire ), but I can't find it. Is it because it's rare or not?
cobalt dock
a Agile Poisonous Ghost?
dark pendant
yeah
main canyon
That sound like something quite specific so I wouldnt be surprised if its hard to find
dark pendant
I searched a lot but they only come up Extended, Multiple, Lucky and Fierce (Flowing Light only). I'm thinking of a case where Agile doesn't come out like Critical
main canyon
oh i see
inland glade
Had a Blessing in Disguise run as Nona and I'm gonna have to guess I just have god gamer RNG because there was only one goblet where both options were not very helpful to me
And I got the scroll in the stage before the tomb boss
winged cove
Can anyone send me an image of Prince doing ludicrous damage on R8? My friend is very competitive about damage and he keeps nagging that his main character is weak (tbh he always compares his damage with the Tao main of our group so thats on him)
winged cove
https://www.reddit.com/r/GunfireReborn/comments/142ryyu/yay_had_a_run_with_some_...
Thx
winged cove
Depends on what you want. I believe Tao is easily a higher tier than Nona in damage but Nona is more resilient without much effort because of the revive passive.
That doesn't mean Tao cannot tank with the right build, it just means Nona is better at it out of the box.
Overall Tao > Nona IMO, but I find the Red Panda funnier to play
quasi arrow
jkjkjkjkjk
This is fact, not a joke. If we exclude hands from the gameplay formula we get exactly this
thorny solar
Oh
Lmfao
winged cove
It depends on what you want. Each character is better at something and all of them are balanced and good enough to take you to the endgame.
Want to Speedrun? Tao and Lei Luo are good options. Finish a level solo? The turtle (don't remember his name) or Nona. High Damage numbers? The Parrot or The Fox. Some characters like Ao Bai can tank and dish out a lot of dmg without much problem.
thorny solar
Parrot?
winged cove
Green Birb
rare quest
birb
thorny solar
No idea
I always thought he was like a falcon of some kind.
I still just call him bird though
I suck with him
winged cove
But now we have 2 birbs 
winged cove
Ye
thorny solar
Since it's more obvious what he is.
rare quest
we refer the other one as owl
thorny solar
On the side note I really love that new gemini
quasi arrow
No idea
I always thought he was like a falcon of some kind.
Green swallow
winged cove
I guess you will probably say brick but between it and Demonlore, which weapon do you think it better to keep upgrading with the Arsenal ?
thorny solar
Oh
Lmao
wicked python
Arsenal delevels your weapon when you grab it between runs.
We levelled brick in that game because lol brick
thorny solar
Ahhh
thorny solar
Arsenal delevels your weapon when you grab it between runs.
I'm glad at least there's a way to keep your weapons though.
winged cove
Arsenal delevels your weapon when you grab it between runs.
Oof. There goes my dream of a broken weapon
thorny solar
There's some I get attached to
Despite me being horrible with most weapons and opting for skill damage builds most of the time.
wicked python
Just an extra tip upgrading demonlore is almost exclusively a waste of money
As its additive bonus alongside the crit stacking damage bonus. You’re basically paying 600 copper for like, about the same damage increase as a single stack.
winged cove
I know, but my initial plan was to upgrade it to around 70 because according to the wiki 66 is the same as a max stacks demonlore
wicked python
You’d just hold in hopes of a richs privilege or unfettered ig
winged cove
So that in addition to max stacks would be even more broken
wicked python
Even like a +600 demonlore wouldnt be that broken tbh
thorny solar
You’d just hold in hopes of a richs privilege or unfettered ig
Ahhh
True
winged cove
👌
thorny solar
I have the new ammo trio scrolls
junior sonnet
seeing this made me wonder something.
how does Take It All interact with 3rd Tim...
it counts as 3 chests
steady scroll
Hey guys, new here. Is it known bug that the Persistence ascension will not take in account Fate Thread for emptying Astroaspects?
vapid crag
How can you zoom r8++++++ easily with guns or skills ?
unreal horizon
With the best ascensions and inscriptions, probably Tiger. On an average run... probably Turtle.
Worst pick is dog, because even if you go Atomic Bomb, you still have contend with slow movespeed
There's also Crown Prince Painkiller and just Miasma everything, then get Ultimate Gamble stage 2 and get Pyro 3
that's probably the most successful with the least swings
vapid crag
Qing Yan is so fun after the rework
unreal horizon
More fun in single player since you can reroll 2nd blessing into Ultimate Gambler
river smelt
yo people, is fish or bear paw a net negative for any weapon?
cobalt dock
single hit Combustion
unreal horizon
it also has a negative synergy with bullet light and coin shot I think but I mean... not a big deal
Bullet Light with a shotgun is pretty awful though
pine oxide
ok q run with tiger
echo ridge
analog comet
queen citrus
no
nimble flint
Just 15 different ones total
queen citrus
so is longling tomb or jokul coming out first for the new spiritual assalt map?
i want longling tombs more than jokul personally
quasi arrow
Just an extra tip upgrading demonlore is almost exclusively a waste of money
That's true, just tested. Monkey without any weapon dmg skills or scrolls
Dmg was done to health in melee range to remove(mitigate) weapon effective range from dmg formula
deep ore
thats it?
upper dome
wdym that’s it
deep ore
it doesn't have any like... yknow... stacking effects?
honestly i thought it would be more given that it was given a name and everything
thorny solar
I flex on my friend and brother
nimble flint
Again I completely disagree
deep ore
you basically need the absolute best case scrolls to make it work
or else it does piss all for damage
you have to have fire enthusiast/deady counter and probably merciless combo too
if it doesn't crit it will not do damage
nimble flint
with the hordes of enemies the beam is fully charged faster than you can blink
You seem to be ignoring the part where I say I got them at the END
deep ore
well idk what i'm doing wrong then because I literally cannot get it to kill things
nimble flint
Literally the last red chest and shop
deep ore
no matter what I do
it just does not do damage
honestly even if the secondary is where the damage is
that's not good for SA anyway
steady scroll
How can you zoom r8++++++ easily with guns or skills ?
Bunny with 2k+ shield 100% uptime is easy, pressing E infinitely
vapid crag
Bunny with 2k+ shield 100% uptime is easy, pressing E infinitely
just that? what about nona or owl
deep ore
ive gotten VERY CLOSE to getting it to work before (on mid fjord where leveling is actually possible because you can get to enemies :)) but at some point it always feels like I hit a scaling wall where suddenly it jut doesn't do enough damage to kill anything
steady scroll
just that? what about nona or owl
I mean, every character makes R8 really easy if you know what you're doing. Bunny is simply more powerful tho
she can kill the last boss ignoring his phases cause the damage is so bug the game will bug
vapid crag
I mean, every character makes R8 really easy if you know what you're doing. Bunn...
what's best way to farm soul essences ?
steady scroll
what's best way to farm soul essences ?
prob in nightmare since you don't spent any
and try to find the 'break a barrel, get soul stuff'
vapid crag
and try to find the 'break a barrel, get soul stuff'
what break a barrel get soul stuff ?
steady scroll
the occult scroll where breakeable stuff will give you gold/seconday/souls
hidden treasure is the name
wise oasis
Is this "hidden treasure" in the room with us?
quasi arrow
what's best way to farm soul essences ?
R1 Lone Wolf x4.
Bird with Bladed Cleave + Endless Assault
Tao with Thorny Bloom
Dog with Atomic Bomb + Endless Assault
20 mins for 500-600 souls I believe
vague dawn
should i reset this scroll? here's the scrolls i have so far just to see if this scroll would benefit the build im tryna make throughout this run rn
quasi arrow
R1 Lone Wolf x4.
Bird with Bladed Cleave + Endless Assault
Tao with Thorny Bloo...
Monkey with fast Spore - pick Essence Drainer just to make it 100% and fast
upper dome
should i reset this scroll? here's the scrolls i have so far just to see if this...
keep it
fallen escarp
should i reset this scroll? here's the scrolls i have so far just to see if this...
Works well with Merciless Combo. Doesn't really do much with any other scroll. Still gives +20% total damage overall.
vague dawn
bet
glad mist
Monkey with fast Spore - pick Essence Drainer just to make it 100% and fast
You've picked all builds that require essence to make. It's honestly probably better just going tao spore. And not using any essence during the run. R1, lone wolf, overconsumption, jokul
Spore is super easy to get going on tao. And she basically just speedruns the game without abilities
quasi arrow
You've picked all builds that require essence to make. It's honestly probably be...
Those builds are just solid vs more random spore(in case of weapons drop and damage output)
glad mist
In terms of farming soul essense however it's better not to spend soul essense
With tao you dont even really need to worry about getting amazing weapons, any fast firing weapon and shotgun is gonna be just fine especially with overcon
glad mist
atomic dog, tao spore and bladed cleave also rely quite heavily on getting other things to keep up your secondary count as its a build based around it, without them you're useless.
you'd be better off doing a thunderbolt lei lou
with coverconsumption
or lightning bolt and taking the talent where you can spam it during your primary
those are a lot less rng related
quasi arrow
I don't think that Overconsumption is enough to carry you through the entire run unlike exclusive blessings
fallen escarp
It is enough to get you through the most painful part though.
glad mist
r1 for sure
quasi arrow
anyway I'll try to level up new profile as fast as possible
glad mist
the point is trying to grind spritual essense. the best way to do that is to find a build that can clear just as fast, without using it
secondary builds are inherently rng based as you need scrolls or goblets to be able to keep up your stacks. especially with 3 you listed as they are all heavy on actually having high stacks or gaining them. where as lei lou can do it without actually needing any stacks tbh
If you wanna use an exclusive blessing, it's better to use lei lou. he's more consistant
all you need is a gun and 2 specific goblets.
or nothing
quasi arrow
secondary builds are inherently rng based as you need scrolls or goblets to be a...
you can use one little trick - shoot . With tao you get 30 stacks and that is all you need to kill half of the map with one Q
glad mist
secondary lei lou can literally speedrun with nothing
You can get 30 stacks, but those stacks will dissapear if you run out of secondaries
which is very easy to do
quasi arrow
You can get 30 stacks, but those stacks will dissapear if you run out of seconda...
shoot
glad mist
so you're relying on a fast firing gun or concealed ammo
quasi arrow
Shooting gives you secondary skill
glad mist
in which case, if you're relying on a gun then you might as well do tao spore?
quasi arrow
on a stock gun, you need one secondary to refresh the timer
quasi arrow
yea, why not
glad mist
so you need a fast firing gun or concealed ammo
in order to get consistant secondaries
quasi arrow
i mean even stock gun is enough to keep stacks
thorny solar
I love concealed ammo for battle field support
quasi arrow
and fast gun drop rate is like ... 100%
glad mist
so if fast gun drop rate is 100% why not use spores?, all you really need is a fast gun for spores to work enough
quasi arrow
so if fast gun drop rate is 100% why not use spores?, all you really need is a f...
gl to aim with any fast gun and spore on it
glad mist
i mean... it's not exactly hard to aim when the enemies have massive hitboxes, it take less than a second for them to die
I just came up with other more efficient ways to grind soul essense. if you're having to reroll or reset just to get the blessing you want you're either losing essense or losing time,
which is why i suggest to not use any essense
and if you're resetting. just reset for a rainbow instead
then you've got it in the bag
spark estuary
So for the Wolf gaze, what exactly do stacks of voracity and Howl do?
glad mist
I think it's Howl does extra damage when it reaches a certain amount of stacks, Voracity lets of a ring of bullets that applies howl after a certain amount of stacks. so basically use left click for single target and right click for groups
spark estuary
I think it's Howl does extra damage when it reaches a certain amount of stacks, ...
i see
coolio
also b r i c k
glad mist
I think at least, it might be the other way around
spark estuary
why is this thing so good
spark estuary
what scroll makes all hits crit?
glad mist
none, but deadly counter makes you crit after taking damage if that's what you mean
spark estuary
none, but deadly counter makes you crit after taking damage if that's what you m...
riiight
jeez normal mode is soo....
normal
and easy
i can oneshot the elite in the first area
proud shale
I think at least, it might be the other way around
yeah other way around
glad mist
lol
restive linden
what is this "slot" in arcane shot means
restive linden
oh, so increasing the slot increase the dmg, not that it need to be filled right?
fallen escarp
Don't know if they need to be filled or not.
vapid crag
Have code for game of PC ?
upper dome
it specifies on the ascensions but for things like +10 shield per slot, its just how many you have, not if they have an aspect or not
restive linden
i kinda wish there's a build guide for each of the character and with 3 of the build you can make
glad mist
i kinda wish there's a build guide for each of the character and with 3 of the b...
There usually is on the wiki but the new characters havent been updated yet.