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i if you put it in the stash at Monarch you still have it in the victory screen
+45% per hit Poisonous Ghosts.
Double rainbows
Hmm... I wonder if the weapons keep their enhancements if they're enhanced...?
I think so yeah
I forgot to put in my enhanced firescale D:
Also I was today years old when I learned that firescale is not an SMG
Add some 100%+ elemental effect chance Aura of Venoms and Piercing Flames.
I got an enhance +projectile fire scale with lightning ball on crit in my storage
Hot
note: as long as suicide device doesnt proc, you're still in for undefeated
write that down altana
Yeah, this one's already on the wiki.
Well, alright then
it's a fair ascension fusion, wdym
I'm disgusted.
Had a dual wield brick run that got Voltage Surge and Hail of Bullets. Thought both of those were weirdly apt.
look at this thing...
Which is the bottom ascension fusion?
Shadow Knight
the build kinda went too spread out though.
Is Enhanced Convergent Paths actually a downgrade when you can juggle weapon skill and primary every 10s?
Just read on the wiki that the enhanced version only goes up to 80% skill damage
Pretty slow tbh
With that owl you can do it alot faster
Mmm im feeling a lei luo brick onehit build today
spot the difference: impossible
tried a run for the Owl portrait and resetting scrolls to higher tiers does count as "picking up"
Elemental weave, combustion + suicide device. Still unsure if elemental weave affects iron wings proc chance or not but other things like battle scarred and resilient life do
did you reset it inside your inventory?
I just didn't touch any of that stuff, just picked up and go.
yes, currently doing a run where I reset outside of it
Hello there
how do i change the mechs mode?
Interrupt button, defaults to middle click.
impossible
thanks
this thing if u wanna change
yes, i know 
Was something changed about getting enhanced scrolls in red chests?
I've not seen that option at all yesterday and now twice in just a bit of playing
Technically I'm not actually playing. I'm transferring data from the game to the wiki.
Y'know, by using wiki data cables or... something.
Complicated process that requires a lot of wire and a couple of monkey brains in jars, to provide enough processing power and creativity.
does this just double the effect of All or Nothing?
every stage +90, but I only at 2-2 stage now
Someone explain what Lucky Roulette is supposed to do
If I have 1234 when leaving a stage it changes it to 1231 and then shuffles it?
for a max of 3211 or a min of 1123?
does nona's special and mechs ranged attacks count as explosive dmg?
leap birb was... interesting
No, it's just normal dmg
rip
how to get owl frame? is it literally going for just rare(or just any other quality but only that quality) scrolls?
if thats a yes. then i should be very careful with mystery boxes too
or do you only have to end the game with 1 quality type of scrolls perhaps
how does the whole attack power thing work?
Pretend it's Iron Wing's base damage for Strike mode.
so it doesn't boost dmg in turret mode?
well, I got 700 stacks and died at Maru 🤡 I am pepega
Fire mode uses Hardwood Missile's damage.
Does it affect turret mode attack speed though?
yes it does
Way worse for turret than the +40% and stacking bonus dmg for nona or turret dependibg on who shot a rocket last
No idea. I haven't even played Nona yet.
You can literally just not do anything
And let the robot clear the stage for you
idk, if you count all the bonuses it feels like it should be abit more than just 3m tho?
the mech had like 2000 health
Does "suicide device" technically count as iron wing being defeated? I just beat the game without the mech dying once and I didn't get the border.
It does.
Don't pick that ascension next time.
AGH!!!!
.
reply broke
back to the ole grind
what is xiao jiu
red panda
Translation error.
ah i see
it seems you CAN reset scrolls if you don't pick them up and still get the portrait
Yeah, I was wondering the same thing.
Has it been delayed to a later time because it isn't ready yet?
how does owl work exactly?
I swear every run I get painkiller in ends up being disgusting

Cat with Painkiller is so good, it has it's own build on the wiki
Painkiller grenades were crazy
Throw grenade to clear room
Also that was my shortest clear apparently
i legit was just building the ascension fusion stuff, not even focusing on nona ascensions lmao
Might try getting Wildfire later on other hero
how 0%
Heyo new to the game here, just wanted to ask a quick question
Is there a way to remove nameplate above enemies? or atleast make it smaller since it creates to much clutter imo
Yes. Press F10.
This also removes all the other pieces of the HUD, so it'll definitely make things more interesting!
Guess I'll try that, I feel like should be a setting for disabling the nametags tho
Is the new dlc worth it
About Zi Xiao frame achievement, does anybody know if you need to end up having same quality scroll or if it is only picking up? Like can you either pick up a blue scroll and reroll it to purple so that all you have is purple or pick up another purple scroll and upgrade it to legendary which means you have a legendary scroll in your rare scrolls but you only picked up rare scrolls?
Well if you like the characters it is
Or should I get the other one I'm getting the game later today
I'd say first play the game then read about the characters and decide by yourself which feels more fun to play bc each dlc is basically only 2 characters (and 4 weapons). Which one is better is bound to be subjective anyway
Ok
what makes Lucky Roulette good? I don't understand what the point of it is at all
it seems just objectively worse than not having it, right? I know i have had in the 10s of thousands of copper before
say you have 1890 gold
9 turns into 1
so 18(1)0
and the rest changes places randomly
so you could get 8110 gold for example
OH i see i thought it just changed the max copper every zone. that's actually pretty nice
i have it
Are the new characters fun to play
Nice
I really like nona, owl is like super gacha so my duo like him
I assume "suicide device" does not disable the condition for nova'S challenge of her mech not being destroyed?
:/
it definitely does
i had a run where i did not let it die at all but i had suicide and i did not get the challenge
What is the best ascension build for nona ? I figure that except for nimble finger in the precision build, the rest is good for nona to deal damage and kite and just wood armor for ironwing for a tank
Good thing i haven't picked it up yet
But I havent figure out which pistol is best for her though, she doesnt seem to stick to 1 elemental damage
i really like missile-based nona doing the ranged form of ironwing. I breezed through my first r8 run with nona with that build
have you tried only weapon and let-ironwing-do-it-all-for you build? I tried them and it racks some good damage. I havent tried your build though cause i kinda suck at aiming the missile
aiming the missile doesnt really matter too much. I was using level 3 of the "ironwing shoots a million missiles on a cooldown and your missiles reduce that cooldown" and the one that makes it to where whenever nona or ironwing use a missile, the next missile from the other one gets a big damage boost
so i was just shooting missiles to reduce the cooldown and boost his missile damage
oh so essentially ironwing do it all then
funny I just watch ironwing smack them all to oblivion
We got a new idea for a video: I afk and let ironwing do the swiping
Related but quick question: does Nimble Finger also work with FM Iron Wing or just MM?
Hey do most people matchmake on nightmare and reincarnation? I usually play with my duo so I just tried matchmaking on normal and elite but I wait for like 20mins and noone really queue in
Probably not too worth it outside of Aura of Venom and the revolvers but it could still be a nice pinch bonus for Hardwood Missile builds if that were the case.
I think it works for both
Will try to test it out rn.
yeah the only pistol I like is aura of venom but the rest doesnt deal much of the damage
have you tried star ring? I think it is horrible
absolutely incorrect
it is the most busted weapon the game has ever had
by a very very wide margin
really? I tried it and i dont know but it just feel terrible to me
I have and tbh it isn't outright bad from my brief usage since the update hit.
this was with lone wolf for 4 players enabled on the mysterious jokul with none of the other strength-boosting dream modifiers on. 27 minute clear on reincarnation 8 and i wasnt even trying to go fast. i just did enough damage that i 1shot every single enemy by like 2-3
wow that is a fuck ton of damage
oh dang 😳
and that wasnt even with a great roll on the weapon
then is star ring the best weapon for nona now?
after all it is a pistol
all it had were the unique inscription that lets it do more damage based on how many enemies it hit on the last attack (which is a great mod) and 1 luck shot mod
i think it is completely unironically the best weapon for every single character other than dog right now and maybe lei luo
wait really?
its absolutely insane
what gemini do you use on it?
then it will get a nerf really soon
the mag size one
it deserves it
i was solo, with 4-player scaling enabled, on reincarnation 8, and i 1shot each phase of the final boss in mysterious jokul
anyone can answer me on this?
It's definitely nice for keeping trash / minor enemies (i.e: the Lanterns) with skill focused builds and absolutely bonkers in Longling Tomb taking advantage of the claustrophobic spaces.
I haven't really tried matchmaking at all since release tbh, just play with friends only sghjgsh
the game doesnt really have enough players for people to do much matchmaking to begin with and i dont think most people play on nightmare or reincarnation. I've never found anyone in matchmaking for reincarnation
btw what do you guys think is a must get for first blessing for nona? ive been taking pair of us to have ironwing basically be an undying aggro tank
pair of us is insane
absolutely best in slot for nona
in the latgame it literally gives like a 10x damage multiplier or more if you take the hp boost ascension
For times when my duo cant play I tried matchmaking in normal and elite figure it would be a lot of ppl for this but 20mins and still no people
just realised, if its mag size, would the minigun work better?
star and big hippo have the same default mag capacity but if you can get one that has the +100% mag capacity modifier you can wind up with like 240+% weapon damage from the gemini
wait, weapon damage?
yeah they reworked the mag capacity gemini
it now gives shared mag capacity and every time you hit an enemy you get 2 stacks, up to a maximum of that shared mag capacity
each stack gives .75% weapon damage
so if you can get 2 weapons with 160 capacity each, you wind up with 320 stacks which is 240% weapon damage
and it can go even higher if its also a pair of enhanced weapons enhanced to have more mag capacity, but i think it's better to get enhanced for critx, especially if youre able to pick up Counterviolence
Monke with weapon mastery's 75(+25)% magsize by having an smg can probably abuse the reworked gemini as well
is there like a proper way to use the ring, or just hold to max then release
put it on auto and then pull it in as soon as it hits the full distance
or if there is an enemy that doesnt get 1shot, pull it in right after it passes through the enemy to get 2 hits right after each other
and if you're building well and speccing for weapon damage that should be enough to obliterate most enemies
that run i posted the screenshot of earlier i literally 1hit the hydra
again, on reincarnation 8 with 4 player scaling while solo lmfao
and granted i got pretty lucky with an early dual edge and some other really nice high-damage scrolls, so that's definitely not something to expect every run with the star, but that is what it is capable of lol
nice\
just picked up ult gambler, ill update soon
this is btw about the perfect Star Ring imo. The only thing that could have been better would be if instead of projectiles (because that is a completely dead mod from what i can tell) it had the unique one that makes it to where the next attack does more based on the number of enemies hit by the last one. Outside of that, mag capacity and its gemini and a ton of lucky shot chance are pretty much exactly what you want
What would be the best Gemini for Star Ring, Crit+ or the revised mag share?
did the crit+ one get reworked or is it still the same? i havent looked at it. If it still works the same way it did before, it depends. Both will be fine, but you need Counterviolence and another really high critx weapon to make the crit+ one pop off more than the mag share one in all likelihood. That said, that is somewhat conjecture because i havent tested it with crit+. I just think it's really really hard to beat 240% weapon damage gemini
i think at the highest possible end, where you have like a 6x weapon in your offhand and a bunch of other sources of high weapon damage, crit+ is probably better. In the general use case though, i think that easy 160-240% weapon damage is really really hard to pass up
Ah yee.
suicide 3 pyro 3 furious flame 3
huge
how does rof affect ring?
Also good to see Spore Injector finally getting some competition being uncontested for so long there (and also the new ammo scrolls adding further specialization too).
i think it increases the rate at which enemies in the ring take the damage over time effect. it does not seem to increase the speed that it moves in or out at from my testing. which means ROF is probably useless because the damage over time from being in the ring is ass
you only really care about the burst of opening and closing the ring
can anyone explain to me the "2 upgrade attempts" line?
"Start with 1 reset attempt. For each Ascension obtained, gain 2 upgrade attempts and 1 reset attempt."
lmao thats about what it looked like running around with that lucky shot star ring i showed earlier lmao just 1shotting elites left and right. solid build youve got there
just a quick thank you to the devs for adding an infinite money scroll.
Upgrade attempts = # of scrolls that can be "upgraded" by your upgrade strategy. You can upgrade 2 more per ascension you take.
Reset Attempts - # of times you can reroll a scroll
how does the owl's upgrade thing work? like how do you use it? cant seem to find what it upgrades or what to use it on
and how to get these upgrade things
you use it on scrolls and it gives them a chance to turn into higher rarity scrolls. you can do it from the occult scrolls menu
"upgrades" in this context is referring to treating the scrolls as higher rarity for your E skill. Not actually rerolling or actually changing the rarity.
oh yea mb i was thiking of the resets
There's a pretty well written guide on the reddit right now to help you understand the basic premise of the character. It's less complicated than it seems, just a lot upfront.
mind sharing the link to it?
Imagine this with the old Coin Shot
true but i'm glad they reworked coin shot
i never took it before because it was so annoying and now it's an instant take when i see it lol
hmm is lucky shot or weapon skill dmg better for star ring?
the exclusive imprint i mean
its hard to quantify it precisely but the weapon skill damage mod is fuckin huge
lol
im just so confused, why was my combustion capped so weirdly
the damage below deals 22.5m?
yea thats the combustion
i only did 30m in one hit
as the highest in the run
i feel like it shouldve been higher with furious flame 3 and pyro 3
mech was 1680 hp
I just got some weird scroll
a scroll that let me shoot when im emptying my mag and take damage plut a scroll that let me heal when i take damage
along with my aura of venom 🙂
so just push and pull it regularly for max damage?
set it to auto so it goes out without you having to do anything and then pull it regularly yes
nona is pretty balanced, shes S tier in solo but not as strong in multiplayer
okay... thank
a demonstration of how wild nona star ring can be. only a +5 weapon and i 2-shot the hydra
ope thats prompting people to download it i think
how do i embed it so it is watchable in discord lol
mkvs dont embed afaik
ah
i guess you could try converting it to mov?
just put it on some video hosting site like streamable
or that yea
hold up i'll upload it real quick yea
streamable or imgur or some other equivalent is normally best forr smaller vids like this
im also curious, cause i wasnt able to get these crazy numbers y ou mentioned with my ring
my internet is shit but im puttin it on youtube so itll be a few minutes lol
and granted once again i got pretty lucky on this run with an early dual edge so it has like 400 stacks but that means that even in absence of that 400% bonus damage it would have taken 8 hits instead of 2 to kill lol
technically it got hit 4 times lol but both of the little hits were from sticking in the ring rather than the push/pull
and this is also only r1 because im just trynna do a casual run to get the nona challenge done but it is still lone wolf'd
regretfully I think the 400 dual edge stacks may or may not be a huge contributor to your success in this clip, lol
i mean again 400% bonus damage still means that in absence of it it wouldnt have taken more than 8 pushes and pulls
its also only R1
Lone wolf doesn't scale HP
does it not?
wait how do you put it on auto ?
It does not
B
the same way you change every weapons firing mode
ah no wonder, i was on r8 thinking why am i not killing this thing fast enough
R8 Serp has 4x the health as R1, just for reference
so take away 400x Dual Edge and then 4x the HP, yeah you're going to see a much different result
even if everything else is identical
i mean i'll just point again to the screenshot i posted earlier from a 27 minute clear on r8, mysterious jokul, lone wolf 4, with no other dream modifiers on
and the fact that it is primarily a mobbind weapon by virtue of its insane AOE and lack of having to aim basically at all
my theory is that you deal 10m damage cap, reduced by 25% (hit armor or shield?), then deal 200% extra damage from combustion (hence 22.5m damage) and 100% aoe damage (hence 7.5m damage)
(I tried searching before I asked) - what do Howl stacks on Wolf Gaze do?
I forgot which is Howl and which is Voracity
but someone made an oopsie and put Voracity in the weapon skill instead of Howl
can you screenshot the Wolf Gaze description?
I can’t ‘cause It doesn’t show up on the mobile wiki? Even though I’m looking at it on browser.
Hitting on enemies applies a stack of voracity. At 6 stacks, trigger higher damager and apply a stack of howl.
ws: hitting on enemies applies a stack of voracity. At 3 stacks, trigger to scatter projectiles in surrounding area which can apply stacks of voracity.
does bloody ammo good for star ring?
Essentially, every normal shot applies a stack of [Howl] (Blue circle, iirc). Meanwhile, every weapon skill shot applies a stack of [Voracity] (Yellow circle, iirc).
When [Howl] is at 6 stacks, it does higher damage (don't know how it calculates for now) and also apply 1 stack of [Voracity].
When [Voracity] is at 3 stacks, it does the AoE bullet ring and also apply 1 stack of [Howl].
I just got resilient life and bloody ammo again :))
. . . that makes sense, and I thank you for that ( thank you! ); but I’m trying to figure out how I’m supposed to get that from the description. 🤣
why does the panda fire mode feel like it does no damage in multiplayer
because her damage is rather flat
Thank you for the explaination, it's just combustion cap is like 90 mil though?
no, the damage cap takes first priority
25% reduction from hitting shields wouldn't drop it that low Hmm
The 10 mil damage cap for normal hits?
Or the 45mil elemental cap
What the fuck
sitting on 400 dual edge and 540 from armed caster holding down q for 3 mins trying to kill an elite lmao
oof
If all damage gets reduced down to 10 mil first, how does combustion get up to 90mil wtf
No way other effects can multiply it that high after being capped
Ah pkay
also like from element advantage (+50%)
uhh... not sure
I believe the combustion deals no element, so it's based on the damage element that triggers it
So fire huh, guess it's good against health
wait no
Damage is Fire/Corrosion element, dealing +50% total to Health/Armor, but -25% To Shields.
from wiki
so you hit shield in your screenshot
Ah yea that explains it
I can't find a busted build with nona
They're all mid
Maybe weapon damage but it's not like the ascensions are top tier
Guys what is the chance of getting you stored weapons in Act2? I'm not sure if I'm unlucky but I never found them
Also thanks to you I was rewatching the video and I just learnt Nona pushes a button to detonate her mech
That's so cute and cool
never had it in act 2
You only get them duo fjord and onward
And by then it's kinda late to swap weapons
is it always the last level of each act before boss?
So my vault is just
The vault found in stage 3
2 if it's hyper borealian
my weapon vault is full of element share-relevant or element orb weapon
mine are crit share for the counterviolence ting
💀
sorry
for this
Armed Caster
+50% Skill damage for every 1x CritX of the held weapon.
Remember if you think to yourself the Red Panda is OP, no it isn’t
Imo Nona really needs a buff
Shes so weak
I can barely hit a bil with maxed out talents in her speciality
I need ideas on best weapon combos for the vault. Like Spores and Elemental
3b with an aura venom and skilled trick but that's not even her build
She's very good for solo, but probably weak for MP
Very weak in mp
Am I wrong or did they remove armor break on kick for Bird?
Her rockets do fuck all at max
I didn't see it in patch notes changes either...
You can barely get by with maxed ascensions for the fire mode on iron wing
All or Nothing? that's a spiritual blessing now
ah ok missed the show details part of the patch notes
Luckyshot and the single shot mag gamini
is Paranormality good with Battle Scarred?
+5% Health HP?/s. -1% DMG taken for every 2% HP you have.
Cause you always 100%
It sure is a thing of all time
I took it as a constant -50% DMG Taken
Hey there!
Wait a minute, what happens to the chicken inside the mech when you self destruct

Hmm, wasn't there suppose to be a new SA map?
and I'm done :3 (again)
There's one for Quarter 2
according to the roadmap
And it looks like it was suppose to be Act 1
Maybe it just wasn't released yet.
Since the way they put "done" on it free update part.
Just speculation though.
Ohhh
i have a question: does the brick count as sniper towards lei luo's eye of the storm or thunderous growl achivement?
Do reincarnation one
I did mine when I was new on nightmare instead thinking it was easier
is explosive hand or star compass better as a starting blessing for owl?
or should i go for armed caster/ult gambler
i did manage to beat reincarnation lvl 3 once but i am just not that good at the game >~<
Try the exclusive blessings, they're always more fun than armed caster or ult gambler
Reincarnation 1 is easier than nightmare becsuse you can do spiritual links and gain blessings along with the extra blessing from line wolf
good point
I speed ran the nona frame in like 15 minutes, just hop in reincarnation 1
Spiritual links, fortunes and Lone wolf 2
15 minutes
i have to been playing the game for that long yet and am not too good yet xd
i just got the crown prince frame somehow...
but took forever
You're better than me
I still haven't gotten thst
You got this, hop in reincarnation and snipe that bear
i am letting a wheel decide which i am going for. lei luo is the second one i am doing now

since he is my main i am somewhat comfy with this tho
He's my main too
All lei Luo players have to walk through this path, it is your turn
i only have qian sui closely after since he is also mad fun for me, and owl might also join the gang now
Qian sui shouldn't be too difficult, just go for a punch build
I got it accidentally on my first run
yeah, should be doable
a frame for finishing a nightmare run with foundry only sounds like a funny challenge...
would do
first scroll penetration bullet. i refuse to throw this run now
Cyrorus would've gotten that multiple times
You doing lei luo?
yep
please let me find a good lightning ksana now
You might have an easier time with a bloody drill / golden bow / strike wing / goshawk
Ksana’s aren’t known for being useable haha
probably, but i just love the ksana >w<
Understandable, it is a fun weapon
sting also doing good work rn tho
yeah I main leiluo an I really like the ksana too but I'm new to the game so I havent figure out how to build leiluo
now im just trying nona for a bit
Ngl
It's a bit lame Ascension Fusion doesn't immediately give you the Lv1 of the ascensions you pick
I feel like more often than not it's just not worth taking at that point, because my own ascensions are more important lol
Yep
Usually it’s better to just take one ascension rather than two
I’ve only had ONE instance where taking two was actually worth
Pyrodominance and furious flame on a combustion mech suicide build for Nona
And I maxed both of them
I don’t think I’ll ever pick two and fully max them out ever again hahahaha
Just dont ask Monkey about it. Coz according to Soul Strike bonus Brick - Pistol, Octopus - Shotgun, Star Ring - Injector
Tao's Ammo Extractor is probably the most universally helpful one
Ain’t no way 💀
Are you sure it didn’t read ur off hand gun or is that only for weapon mastery
boss 1: down. got a decent brick as reward. will take that
but bonus is right
So it’s just a visual bug you’re saying
yes
That’s funny either way
Make an issue post about it
Or add to the current brick is pistol in monkey hand post
And say the jet octopus counts as a different type
Critx share with a strike wing
It’ll melt
doing my best
There are some post about this. About Brick. But I already spammed them in in-game feedback about broken Magazine Share
Broken as in non functional or broken as in fuck load of damage
Because as far as I know it’s so busted
They made a mistake giving everyone first strike
That thing is so strong
i loooove pairing thunder nemesis wih magical supply. so satisfying...
x2 magazine after reload does not work with magazine share anymore, + some weapons have lost the ability to make this inscription
That’s a build
It really is aye
i dont get this part, how do you hold without using the skill? and holding means you cant fire so how do you proc card storm
Idk how 2x magazine size would work with mag share anyway
You’re sharing the mag of both weapons so it’ll be the same number on both
It wouldn’t make sense to double the magazine lol
As in holding the aspect without clearing it
If anything having that inscription would prevent you from getting mag share just like the 2 mag capacity for lucky shot inscription
oh, so you dont use E?
not using your primary so you can keep the buff from other ascension
i see i see
at least that's for that build strat
primary build strat is the complete 180
I think Fate Thread is the core for every Owl build
Zi xiao primary my beloved
how many characters is Duoyi planning to add?
good question, we dunno, we'll see if they add more roadmap next year
I was playing with First Strike since ... release. Maximum I can get is ~700 ammo with Launchers. Everything stacks - +60% ammo, +100% ammo, x2 ammo after reload, Extended magazine
They take a long time to implement characters
well, they're also focusing on other platform
Do those go after the mag share or do they add before the mag share
Interesting
Yeah. New mech girl is BROKEN lmao. Especially for solo play.
Also, quite a few of the new scrolls are completely OP.
As well as some of the inscription changes.
Like, I'm using Fish or Bear Paw with a Hell. I shouldn't be doing over 1m damage with each pellet lmao.
24 base pellets
She’s not as strong as other characters
So 15 of those also do damage twice
boss 2: down. looking good
ok, for example, lets take simple Big Hippo:
Base = 80 ammo
+100% mag = 160 ammo
+60% mag = 208 (if I remember right)
x2 mag = 416
Repeat
Sweeet, what’s the gun load out lookin like
piercing flame, brick
The 2x is an inscription?
I’ve never seen it
yes
"When reloading right after killing an enemy, -50% Reload Time, and leftover ammo from the previous magazine is added to the new one."
blue inscription
Ah that
kill mob, reload, x2 magazine
Try this with Wild Hunt xD
Could it be because the 2x mag is temporary
So if you do the setup and get the 2x mag and pick up advanced depot, you just stick with the double mag right
yes, it was, but you dont need this weapon anyway. Just make x2 mag and swap to your main weapon
yes
Should I buy the game with both dlcs in a bundle or just the game without dlc
Both dlcs
K
But if you die you lost your bonus and can't reload to make x2 again
It’s a great game (I’m not biased trust)
You can refund if you don’t like the general concept of it after 2 hours
The fun begins after you max your talents at level 140 something
Well I love ror2
So I thought this may be simular
Are the concepts simular for both of em
Nice
It's a BorderRoR2
It’s just this one caters towards people who like cute little animals
does anyone know for owl's frame achievement
if getting a rare enhance scroll and a normal rare, if that messes up the achievement
Yea
Why?
I was reading reviews and a lot of people seemed to have issues when trying to play
Crashes, not loading in main screen, high rate of fire weapons lagging
do i want fish or bear paw if i am using snipers?
Fish or bear paw is only for weapon damage
Doesn’t affect skill damage
i know, but to me it sounds like it is only good with shotguns but not really with snipers
Ok then it should be fine
It’s always a net increase
Thanks
Lets say you do 10,000,000 damage
With fish or bear paw it’s -25%
Which is 7,500,000 then x2
Which totals to 15,000,000
sure
You’ll see a lower number but the total damage dealt is higher
You’ll see two numbers to be exact for every projectile
boss 3: down. I LITERALLY 2-SHOT POOR SERPENT
a nice
Reading the same thread and it says it's fixed at the end
So that's nice
If I can play gunfire reborn on a crappy OnePlus 7t I'm pretty sure steam deck has the specs
Deck is like 16gb ram it should be good
Remember, he can’t kill you if he’s dead
the brick of justice will bonk them all!
2 frames done!
let's ask the wheel who is next
monkeh
sounds chill
how to upgrade scrolls on the owl?
Chicken nuggie
Its pretty fun
7 min in i cant find any players
Teaches you great game mechanics
my region india
Automatic
i dunno what to do
Use lfg, ingame matchmaking sucks
You can change the priority for how it upgrades (and see what scrolls are upgraded) in your inventory
okay
can someone summarize the owl mechanics for me like I'm dumb (I am)
Shiny scroll good
If matching scrolls in small boxes, then primary skill do something cool
what's up with the primary bar filling up in random amounts, does it do that automatically when you fill the slots
does anyone know why i sometimes not get a gemini when i etch at +4?
14 min in cant find any matches
i mean this game have 22000 players playing this right now
Can someone please please tell me what's going on?
we're all gunning for the frames in solo mode
sooo the achievement in steam its translate wrong? i obtain more than 200 astroaspect for sure, soo...
bluesnack answer you
try the lfg channel maybe
hey gamers, for the owl's frame if I reroll a scroll to a different rarity does it still count
ah dang, been a while since ive played, guess i forgot
alright I'll try
Based, now make sure they're all enhanced
Since dev refused to fix matchmaking imma refund this game
i don't know why matchmaking doesn't work
Have you considered using the LFG channels?
That's where I go if I want to play with others
Cancel queue and try again, waiting for someone to join takes forever.
I suggested that already lol
If you don't join someone in at least 10 seconds, cancel and try again. If you don't find anyone after a while use the lfg channel.
Can the cards on owl do a big single damage? Or is it always just small number spams? I just finished a run with 9.2mil highest damage and I’m unsure if that was from cards or something else
tbh I'm still trying to figure out Owl's mechanics, it's got the amount of reading like Turtle had when he came out
how is this actually work
your lowest number is turned to 9 and the rest are shuffled
I got my copper capped at 9876 for 5 stages straight
In the case of the enhanced one it's 9 instead of 1
yo what is this XD are we close to get redstone engineering soon?
yea misread earlier
That seems absolutely beyond broken with extravagant consumption
so i'm looking at artisa nand magician dlc is it like worth it
yes
Its like 6 bucks.
Like the previous DLC before it, it's worth it
that's what I'm thinking
isnt like previous one also bring more content outside of character and item
not in where i live 😄
okay desert stage 2 I got 9876
the first time I picked it up I also had 9876, I think it does that
Yes
yup stage 3 still 9876
so dlc give you 2 hero and 4 weapon right?
yes
ya
Ok. Go make like 200 gold before switching stages and tell me what happens
dude what XD
its fine we all make reading mistakes
if I find craftsman I'll fo it
It's really funny how you can use this image to summarize the concept of gatekeeping
if it was on my game's review i would go nuts XD
it is so hard to get review from players and this is what you getting...
Could u drop it and pick it up again?
I mean, lots of people actually do leave reviews, they're just really short like that solely to leave the rating
Getting an actual review is hard though
opposite actually
And much less a review from someone who actually knows what they're talking about
at least i known from statistics of my game XD
I've seen so many reviews that were negative, as a result of them completely missing the point lol
but to be honest cant blame them how many games i review? not that much XD
still annoying though
.... it doesnt say you cant drop lucky roulette right?
yeah doesnt seems you cant
Why cant u just repeatedly pick it up? Infinite money?
Yeah I tend to not leave rwviews either LOL
monke frame: unlocked
the scroll works when switching stage
so what is this ?
harder than expected, but still first try
you always only have 2 ascensions to choose from instead of 3, but you can take both at once 3 times
nightmare difficulty
your goblet grants only 2 ascension choices, but you can pick both 3 times.
oooh interesting
overall is it good or bad? the blessing in disguise
so with luck it can be amazing
ya
depending on your luck
which can 3 of them useless depend what you doing
that can also be true
or 6 actually XD
if those 2 choices are not in the same way, just pick one
pick both only when they both benefits you
side note: also applies to the jokul. so you have 2 options there instead of 1
Both, good when you have uses. Bad when you don't.
now that is good 😄
and yes 2 choices even in jokul
still waiting for a dual wield possible melee weapon
btw what rarity is that scroll? tryin gto check my logbook for it and i cant seem to find it
purple
ah found it, thanks
Its usefulness increases dramatically if you have Ultimate Gambler imo
unless you have a really bad RNG
Just did a run with gambler when I had it.
btw, is overconsumption still the best extra spiritual blessing for lone wolf?
It still becomes bad when you have no uses left.
Yeah, but bad RNG is gonna suck regardless
depends on what you're going for.
soo what is this about
It says change your money to 9876. Im assuming that happens on pickup the first time no?
I always pick Overconsumption
read carefully again
oh wait is that mean you can just deposit your weapon after pole monarch and get it back later
Max copper not current copper
Ah
yep
is that also mean you can keep enchanting your weapon?
At that point gotta hope for a red chest that lets you give up a scroll, but it's at least always net positive in jokul
panda is fun, owl not so much
is my review
Having 2 options over 1 in every goblet that's not from a red chest or elite is definitely a net positive, what are you talking about lol
Those 2 options won't make up for all the other 2 options you had before.
I'm saying within the scope pf jokul it is a net positive
Did you fail English class?
doing new run and I get the regular version XD
what
maths
do you known how jokul works?
It's why I said it's only positive if you got the scroll late.
yes of cours
ooo...
Also, the loss of options only matters if you consistently get 2 ascensions you don't want
Which there are very few cases where one of them isn't gonna be something you want lpl
you can get two option from corrupted goblet if you have Blessing in Disguise
Bad RNG will always be bad RNG, Blessing in Disguise's downside is more often than not completely irrelevant
so it just make rng more rng XD
what slot is this talking about?
so you either get super lucky and super unlucky XD
just pure goodness if you find it on like last boss before jokul
Just be luckier 4head 🙂
ha
what I understand is, every Astrospect slot gives +10% weapon DMG and bonus dmg from every occult scrolls you own
nice
I remember I found this chest on a Lei Luo run where my very first scroll was Penetration Bullet
That was a good run.
which can fills up missing bonus from Overconsumption
okay bois here I go again XD
before : 1186 copper
Just had a Pistol Nona run where I had practically 100% crit chance
after : 8169 copper
I'm a bit upset with the Refresh Addict rework lmao
That would have been hilarious with Lucky Roulette
Just need an extravagant consumption and you'll be wrecking everything
hope I get one here
I cant tell if nonas missile or strike mode build is better
they're both very strong but I'd say strike mode especially if you have the thing that makes the bot immune if you're still alive
Pistol build
have hand cramp for spamming LMB
why you spamming though
because she has faster reload speed and attack speed, and pistols are semi-auto
I just posted the pistol build clip on #gunfire-videos. kinda lucky run.
no idea why but seems like they think it is good idea put a small button on my mouse that when you hold it spamming lmb XD
Any confirmation that the attack speed applies to fire mode? https://i.imgur.com/cLjmTVs.png
Can I just throw my unused scrolls at the end? I guess not eh
Also WHAT does Pair of Us apply to? The Strike form? Does Nona herself get a damage increase? Doesn't seem like it right?
From what it seems like it was just the strike form
Pair of us is the best
Gives the meca damage for every hp he has
and hes invincible as long as you live
I love the owl
anybody else confused on how the owl works?
thanks so much
https://youtu.be/VaeHWBqbQ0g
not sure if most of the dmg came from spores or the cards, id like to think it was the cards
Talisman is a very aesthetically fitting weapon for him tbh
Had Ethereal Feline tho and 12hp so that is pretty much god mode
Felt bad about that
anyone found a use for that new star weapon as well?
that thing is confusing as well
doesnt feline count armor as total hp as well
New Star + Painkiller must be nice
put it on auto, then right click to pull the ring in to deal damage
having it on auto makes it extend automatically
Star ring is like a guillotine
oh lol didnt know there was an auto mode
im retracting fot 5 mil
Can Zi Xiao re roll cursed scroll to non curse?
What happens if i play with people that dont have any dlc? I assume i can still play any character i want.
What about the game modes?
I didnt think he could roll the curse scrolls. I only checked a couple times though and its possible i was out of resets.
How do you upgrade scrolls with Owl's skill?
Hit start and go to your scrolls. Hold x on a scroll to upgrade as long as u have resets available
I'm not trying to reset the scroll though, I just want to upgrade it, unless there tied
iron wing is finally letting me get this achievement 
Is it like, when you reset you upgrade, but the rest of your resets dont upgrade anymore
This is gonna be confusing but... reset means to reroll the scroll. And i think it ususually goes to a higher rarity? That might be an owl perk
"Upgrade" is misused.
Gotcha
Think of it as an owl specific keyword. If u play with the settings while looking at your scrolls it will make much more sense
Is it like, when you reset you upgrade, but the rest of your resets dont upgrade anymore
Hit r3. And specify whether u want to maximize legendaries or rares or minimize normals
Okay
Not what it means
Hey My friend launched his game since a long time, but when he launched it his account got reset to lvl 1, is there a way to undo that?
Owl upgrade will make scrolls act like a higher rarity for his abilities, as indicated by a mark next to the scroll, and the upgrade priority can be changed in the occult scroll inventory menu
i need to set up a copy paste lmao
Thanks for the tip, but is there any way to undo it? get him back to the level he was?
Can anyone give a explanation on how to use the owl, i understand its very powerful but i dont know what weapons to use, what golden goblet upgrades to look for, how to use the skills even.
So.. Iron Wing has the possibility to one shot any boss that doesn't have set immunity phases (i.e. Yoruhime-Maru, Wind God and Pole Monarch) I have one shot Lu Wu but he may have the chance to survive during his shield recovery phase. (I have only fought Lu Wu, Offspring, Yoru and Pole Monarch during this run. I have no data on how this build would work on the other bosses.)
The combo was Wood Armor and SDevice
The Pair of Us Blessing makes it a gaurentee unlock for Nona's border achivement granted you are staying far enough back and letting Iron Wing do his thing
He has some pretty decent damage for Stage 1 and 2 with some falloff on 3 and more falloff on 4th if you haven't grabbed the relative Goblets.
But using Iron Wing as a portable mini nuke is pretty funny.
am i the only one that really wishes that Gunfire Reborn had more mods, besides the vr mod?
Those are my immidiate findings on my first run
helpful thanks, but could you please explain the owl
Wait putting things in stash?
Gentleman this is what we are looking for
Just scrolled far enough to find this
And ladies idk who I’m talking to sorry
thank you very much
Yw🙏🏽
From what I saw his Secondary Skill puts a "Stack" on his Primary, and if all of the "Stacks" are the same rarity you "Upgrade" the scroll that shares the Rarity of your "Stacks" when you use his Primary.
no
Oh you were asking about his Border
Fuck I don't understand Owl himself enough yet to try to attempt his border 💀
the owl feels confusing as fuck to play
This early guide is hilarious tho I’m ngl
i like the other character tho
the mech one
she's fun
however, punchy guy feel good to play
I'm sure if I spend enough time to sit down and read his kit I can get something
I’m gonna keep the link for the early guide if anyone needs it @me
I just saw RPanda with SDevice and Wood Armor and was like, "Yeah.. I'm making a Mini Nuke :)"
Devs looked at Gaige from Borderlands 2 and was like "Yes, but what if mini nuke?"
"Gaige? Wrong! Mini nuke!!" *distant screams of pain and agony*
Also, what were the devs on when they decided to add a throwing brick
Dont get me wrong, i love the weapon but.... brick....
Also is the melee mode on mech any good or is ranged alot better
I find ranged to be better, also lets you build into secondary skill for backup, but melee prob works too
Because when all you have are bricks, become a Mason.
Can someone pls dm me a screenshot of the patchnotes? Steam isnt working for me:((
melee and ranged are both good, ranged clears rooms instantly but elites and the boss on stage 4 can be tanky, melee hits harder and has click e to boom potential but doesn't clear rooms nearly as quick so up to you really(I liked ranged more)
also stop trying to learn how to play owl because all you need to know is card ascensions
What does this do?
What does it do??
Blazing Meteor deals 200% .. 50% chance for 200% or 300% .. 80% chance for 300% or 20% chance for 400% DMG when hitting 1 enemy.
Pretty sure that one increases the ammount of dmg ur special does when it hits 1 enemy
Is there any rebalancing in the new patchnotes? Or judt bugfixes
"Fixed the issue where the description of theOccult Scroll "Blessing in Disguise" didn't match its effect."
what does howl do on the new gun?
Wonder what was wrong with it.
It said you could refresh it i think
Or something like that
How is your game not translated..
one builds up then does a scatter shot one builds up and does a bigger hit I believe
A bug
RIP
Those undead turrets
Ironwing is soooo strong
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Has someone explained the owls main ability somewhere?
Please, I want to do a run with that next, but I really can't understand all the astro stuff?
basically just pray to god that you get card storm ascenscion early
then dont use the ult because its trash
spec everything into your special
Is it? Damn, I just did a run throwing cards an it was very good...thought I should try the other thing
the ult is really bad
Remember when ascensions used to be "Increased fire damage" instead of "Weapons spawn with 50 Moonlight for ammunition, which is consumed on basic attacks on-attack or to cast his abilities abilities. Abilities that cause Aphelios to attack do not cost additional Moonlight on top of their ability cost. Once his main weapon is exhausted of Moonlight, it is moved to the end of the queue and Aphelios assembles his next available weapon over 1 second to equip it from his reserve, with its Q ability being placed on a 1.5-second Cooldown icon cooldown before that time. Aphelios cannot cast Phase Phase during the assembly"?
I remember those days.
I really like the design of owl, its just so fucking confusing
the rng parts didnt have to exist like that
Um, can anyone tell me how to upgrade my scrolls as owl? Lol, I have upgrades and rerolls but it only lets me discard or reroll
best blessing for fox e
doesnt work atm
bruh
Wtf happened here
Would that be disabled for some reason or did they release him bugged?
Its does work, just not how you think it does
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No
sorry this has prob been asked 900 times already: for owl frame, do cursed scrolls obtained through red chests count against you? and is going for normal or rare scroll pickups better?
which is better ?
Probably under control
You’re likely to get both, since owl will buff the chances of getting a tier 3 ascension
which is wild
You can't reroll scrolls to a different type to bypass picking them up, rerolling in your backpack is risky so drop the scroll on the ground before doing so
I assume curses scrolls are considered thier own type so yeah avoid grabbing them
ok thanks
I went for rare scrolls only since it let's me reroll normals in the hope that it becomes a rare
can anyone do me a quick review which one of the 2 dlc's is more worth getting
i heard the first one has the op fox with a super strong build
both dlcs have very op stuff
uhh so i guess its all up to how fun they are
yep, up to preference
nona (red panda) has a mech that can switch between a ranged / defensive and a melee / aggressive stance, zi xiao revolves around the quality of occult scrolls you have, and rng, but his talents help mitigate the rng
nona seems a bit boring no?
is she like the technomancer from borderlands 2 where you just upgrade the mech?
if you cant directly control it then its kinda whatever
i might be wrong here
🗿
With talent 4 quite literally as he will res you
so iron wing suicide can break the 10 mil cap
the ultimate loner experience
Ngl I want the fox dlc for the sniper
Yeah
i see
my friend has the fox dlc so he can just share it with me if i feel like using it lol
The characters don't seem very appealing to me gameplay wise
I dont really ever pick it up
It's not that good for support nor damage
definitely still good, but not as good as it was
brick
This dude is legit unkillable
anyone find a good build for nona? i cant find any, she feels weak. but im bad so idk
What build are you looking for? There lots of different build that so fun to go; Suicide Mech, Taunt Strike Mode, Fire Mode Mech etc
I doing the grenade launcher spam fire mode mech build 
I upgrade rockets and mech and both melt lmao
I got lucky with my scrolls, Overwhelming Shield, Capacity Overdraft, Double Exhilaration, and extra surprise
No, you’re right
She actually is weak
I invest so much and get so little in return
The strike mode sucks balls at full points in every strike ascension
The turret form is mid at best


