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unreal horizon
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Why advanced armory over inscription reroll then?

fallen escarp
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Because Melee Scavenger gives you more swords.

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This makes inscription rerolling, which is a far bigger jade, pretty much redundant.

unreal horizon
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Right but he's saying he wants a specific poisonous ghost exclusive

fallen escarp
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More swords = more inscription choices.

unreal horizon
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What do you mean far bigger? It's 4 vs 5 slots

fallen escarp
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Melee Scavenger is 1 slot.

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Vs 5.

unreal horizon
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I'm talking about advanced armory

fallen escarp
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And I'm not.

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Advanced Armory is for early gemini. Melee Scavenger is for certain inscriptions.

unreal horizon
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So why pick advanced armory vs reroll

fallen escarp
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Again, Early gemini.

unreal horizon
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But is the early game that big a problem?

fallen escarp
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Spiritual Assault is based on momentum.

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The faster you level up, the better you do later.

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So yes, a good early game is just as important as the late game.

unreal horizon
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For bird maybe, I have zero issues playing every character with Chromatic Magazine and getting a varying level from 40 to 50

fallen escarp
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Chromatic Magazine is a special case.

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I say "Special" because it can single-handedly win you the entire run. You literally don't need anything else.

unreal horizon
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Minus the final boss yeah

fallen escarp
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But it's also not this build.

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So it's irrelevant.

unreal horizon
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I also think Golden Touch is fairly low value and unpleasant to use

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I also think since I am asking for a multiplayer build which is implied by the Combat Medic perk

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If I was asking for a single player build then clearly skill damage is superior to swords

glad iris
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meh

unreal horizon
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The only reason to step away from auto killing spiritual flame is because of multiplayer scaling

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Because everything dies from it

glad iris
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Everything melted from the build I used so...

unreal horizon
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Does your build kill everything in a 10m radius every 1 second?

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Automatically?

glad iris
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Doesn't need to.

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Ghost has a weapon skill that goes through multiple enemies.

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automatically that is

unreal horizon
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Does that skill charge itself off itself?

fallen escarp
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Point it at one of the paths, and the entire path gets cleared, way beyond 10m.

glad iris
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It charges from hitting enemies.

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And you kill things in like 3 hits or less (includes elites) anyways.

unreal horizon
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I literally can auto kill elites around me in 4 10m steps, or I can proc decay and partial charge spiritual flame and one shot

glad iris
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If you have the 8m spread inscription it's pretty much GG.

unreal horizon
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2 shot the final boss if it let me

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So I'm like... Your build has a fraction of the survival, early game, overall DPS, and crowd killing

glad iris
unreal horizon
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You can one shot the final boss if it let you

fallen escarp
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That's 105 million damage.

For reference, Gluttony has 19.2 million.

unreal horizon
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Yeah and I could hit 45 million without the combustion bonus from the piece or the blessing so why does that matter

glad iris
unreal horizon
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Why would you take glass cannon over armor pen

fallen escarp
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You're using a corrosive weapon. Penetrating Flame will do squat.

unreal horizon
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You can Gemini fire on it, it does more than squat

fallen escarp
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Gemini doesn't matter. It's still corrosion damage.

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Additionally, Penetrating Flame offers no damage bonus which could kill shielded/armored enemies faster AND unprotected enemies.

unreal horizon
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The right click is forced corrosion? Oof

fallen escarp
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No. The WEAPON is corrosion.

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Gemini doesn't give it fire damage.

unreal horizon
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??? Why wouldn't Gemini fire give it fire damage

fallen escarp
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Gemini gives it the ability to deal extra damage to unprotected enemies and a chance to inflict Burning.

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You receive absolutely 0 benefit from bonuses exclusive to fire damage.

unreal horizon
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Ahh so if they have a shield or armor the fire Gemini doesnt work on the pen damage

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Oof

fallen escarp
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No, Penetrating Flame offers 0 benefit, period.

unreal horizon
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To a poisonous ghost

fallen escarp
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Yes.

unreal horizon
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Yeah I think passing on the fire pen is a mistake

fallen escarp
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If you're doing enough damage to kill shielded/armored enemies anyway, it doesn't matter.

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Convieniently, Glass Canon gives you +200% total damage.

unreal horizon
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By "doing enough" you mean you distance yourself, place multiple enemies, then use right click?

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Then build up stacks by autoing?

glad iris
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Distance myself? What's that? lol

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I just run around and slash everything then use right click when necessary.

unreal horizon
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How can you use the poisonous ghosts exclusive on elites without minions in-between?

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This would also make it worse on desert vs fjord correct?

glad iris
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Well there's usually enemies around elites so...

fallen escarp
unreal horizon
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If your killing speed is slow sure

fallen escarp
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You see an elite appear, launch a blade wave, then everything plus the elites die.

unreal horizon
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What's the point of picking Li for this build

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Just the combustion piece?

glad iris
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Some ascensions

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It's good with cat too.

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It's just getting pyro III is a pain

fallen escarp
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Li benefits from inflicting Burning.

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With the gemini, you'll be inflicting lots of Burning.

unreal horizon
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Because the flame talisman?

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I could literally see Qian Sui doing nearly identical damage with 500 times the survival

glad iris
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flame talisman, molten meteor, burning bullet...

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It works with him too. Honestly what I did with Li was an experiment which turned out to be pretty busted.

unreal horizon
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I'll try it, though I hate the lack of survival

fallen escarp
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There's no lack of survival with Flame Talisman.

glad iris
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You also have Heat Recovery.

unreal horizon
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If I'm not mistaken the multiplayer increases enemy damage? Is that correct?

glad iris
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I ran this in a 4man, survival wasn't really an issue.

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And I had glass canon

unreal horizon
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Ehh I guess if you don't plan on reviving anyone

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I'm usually carrying and having to revive 30 times so the idea of not having Combat Medic, Prepaid Defense, Chromatic Magazine, AND having Glass Cannon seems like you'd only vendor revive

glad iris
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I don't usually revive someone in the middle of enemies. I kill everything around first since they all die quickly anyway.

ionic bolt
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Busted builds don't really care for money in general, so reviving via peddler isn't an issue

glad iris
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Or if there's too much I just revive them at peddler

unreal horizon
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We're playing with different locals then

ionic bolt
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Glass cannon is also mostly negated by Li's continuous max shield generation, or veteran, or qing's similar max armor ascension

unreal horizon
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90% of games I get sub 1/10th DPS of 2nd place players with 20+ deaths

ionic bolt
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  • all the damage reduction
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Reliable bun + relic/enthusiast ontop is also a nobrainer invulnerability

unreal horizon
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So I could choose to not revive by not using combat medic but that's literally cut into my DPS from how often I'd need to revive

ionic bolt
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It's not a matter of dps when anything in your general direction dies instantly

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Big damage numbers != kill rate

unreal horizon
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Ehh... Even when I instantly kill the screen, the party wanders away from me and makes me rescue them in africa

ionic bolt
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You can dramatically outperform everyone kill-wise with ways less total damage with generic radio glove argus spores for example

unreal horizon
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Already did that for most builds

ionic bolt
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Beside, if people are always going away alone and wasting xp/pickups, it sounds like a whole lot of not your problem

unreal horizon
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If my teammates could just survive so I could remove combat medic I would be quite happy

ionic bolt
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Let them die and quit, or just reroll lobby

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LFG/premade > pubs

unreal horizon
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Bro there's like 5 regular people to play with and 3 of them are trash

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I might as well solo at that point

ionic bolt
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Friends or lfg

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Matchmaking has it's risks

unreal horizon
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I meant in this discord

fringe crystal
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says alot about spiritual assault

ionic bolt
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Sandbox abuse*

glad iris
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teammate issue

unreal horizon
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Obviously if I had competent people to play with Combat Medic is useless

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And I can solo fine

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But solo is boring

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And so is atomic dog and cheese builds in R8

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And people haggling for scroll combos

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I give away Dual Edge at the start of a run and barely lose top DPS spot as support cat ffs

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I'll try a modified version of that build since I feel like some of those perks like Golden Touch and Deft Move are not for me

fringe crystal
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does this @fallen escarp \

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work with this

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the +3% weapon damage bonus

unreal horizon
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the forced exclusive does not work with rerolls

ionic bolt
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The wording is questionnable as usual, but the jade's description tries to specify that

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classic GFR translation

unreal horizon
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this build is very unreliable early game

cobalt dock
glad iris
unreal horizon
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not getting the exclusive you talk about and not even getting a gemini on poisonous ghost by 2nd boss

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after like 6 runs I got one poisonous ghost with gemini on it by 2nd elite rush

glad iris
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?

unreal horizon
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without the exclusive

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just some random attack speed exclusive

glad iris
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not getting a gemini doesn't make sense tbh

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that's what advanced armory is for

unreal horizon
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because poisonous ghost doesn't always drop

glad iris
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that doesn't change it from not having a gemini

unreal horizon
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I get it from level ups and drops before the first peddler before +5

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so even with the +3 it's not gemini

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and then get no drops

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but fire towers and flowing lights

fallen escarp
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No one said you get a gemini before +5 weapons appear.

pearl garden
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Weapon builds don't really come together for me until early game is over most of the time. And that's fine. I just focus on using what is strong in the moment until I find what I'm seeking.

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There's the occasional run I don't get the weapon drop I want until Act 3 but those are rare. More often than not I can make things work. Poisonous Ghost doesn't need the exclusive to put in work.

glad iris
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If you find a good fire tower/flowing light, use that to kill faster and get more weapon drops.

pearl garden
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Lmao just realized this is about SA whelp. I'm dumb. Ignore.

glad iris
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That build isn't really catered towards poisonous ghost. It's more towards melee in general. Ghost just happens to be the most busted if you manage to get that exclusive. Tbh that jade build pretty much works with any character. Though it's probably least effective on Dog.

red glacier
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DLC in 2 DAYS BB

cobalt dock
pearl garden
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2 days until Walter hits 10mil, probably higher, in yet another unconventional way

fallen escarp
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2 days until hitting 10mil becomes easier.

red glacier
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2 day unti brik

unreal horizon
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yeah I think the fire pen is wayyyy more consistent, and honestly since corrosion gemini doesn't pen it's better to go double fire gemini and use chromatic magazine as an activator with some random fire tower, kills just as fast as glass cannon and doesn't die in one shot

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the max damage per hit isn't as impressive and if your rng isn't the best the boss takes longer to kill

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but it's way more consistent

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instead of just getting clipped by a Kappa and being doomed to zero survival

fallen escarp
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Y'know swords make it easier to dodge attacks.

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Can't get clipped if they never hit you quickly enough to take you down.

unreal horizon
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if your movement speed isn't high enough you can't just outrun a corrosive tracking ball

fallen escarp
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You try to outrun them...?

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I just move slightly to the side.

unreal horizon
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strafing the ball doesn't always work

fallen escarp
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Way faster maneuver and as a bonus you're also closer to the kappa.

unreal horizon
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if you're 30m away from a kappa and he's firing a curved corrosive ball at you

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and your movespeed is unaltered

fallen escarp
unreal horizon
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by what, +30%? for ghost? and fire tower it's +20%

fallen escarp
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+10% for fire tower, actually.

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Making it worse than most pistols.

unreal horizon
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also is the movespeed a bug since the talent is supposed to be attached to talents that are disabled?

fallen escarp
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With the talent it's +55% and +35%, respectively.

unreal horizon
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so yeah it seems like fire tower isn't exactly a dodge machine

fallen escarp
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Which is why you'd use Poisonous Ghost.

unreal horizon
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if you got it dropped

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orrr I could just use any fast reloading weapon with -40% reload with chromatic mag

fallen escarp
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We both know that's about as generic and boring as Injector Spores.

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Effective for sure, but it ain't special.

unreal horizon
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just as special as mortar dog then

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or -80% skill cooldown monkey using a shrieker

fallen escarp
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Those you at least have to try to get the effective things to make it work well.

unreal horizon
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monkey has too many options to be considered dice roll

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dog having to get mortar is the rougher one but it could literally be vanilla

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with no gemini

fallen escarp
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Injector spores is any shotgun from the better half, and any Rainbow or Radioactive Gauntlet.

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And Chromatic Magazine requires... itself. That's it.

unreal horizon
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yep

fallen escarp
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Mortar Dog and Monkey you need to at least find a good weapon and get good ascensions and scrolls.

thorn robin
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guys is there any lei luo build i can learn?

unreal horizon
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not really "good" for Dog

thorn robin
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im new to this game but dont know anywhere to find build for all

sly mountain
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My brain is buzzing, I need this update

unreal horizon
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Lei Luo takes a fair amount to get a skill build online, and Qing Yan can whiff cleave build really hard

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but most of the classes builds are consistent

thorn robin
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can i have a build, please?

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cause i have no idea what to do in this game

unreal horizon
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the wiki lists builds, Altana here made the builds on the bottom https://gunfirereborn.fandom.com/wiki/Lei_Luo

Gunfire Reborn Wiki

"Lei Luo, who is born with thunder tattoos, can easily manipulate lightning to hit enemies. Through continuous training, he can integrate his talents with firearm skills to make an amazing shot...

thorn robin
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thank u

cosmic karma
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just get carried

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till u can unlock inscriptions

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then u get strike wing and argus

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then u inscript gemini and reforge to ahare crit x

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then use argus

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yeah

fringe crystal
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does blossom enthusiast just suck without thorny bloom

fallen escarp
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Sucking is what something like Sword Mastery does.

cobalt dock
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”Macro Sword out” build

fallen escarp
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Wouldn't that one be better with Overconsumption or Field Proficiency?

unreal horizon
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Also I think if Penetrating Flame is only supposed to work on "normal" enemies it is bugged since it works on elites

fringe crystal
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yea but i can see them being really broken together

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i was only hitting 4million/s

fallen escarp
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It's no Atomic Bomb or Thunder & Glory, but it does still double your Fatal Bloom procs (triple with Glowing Bloom 3) and let you mark enemies without using the skill.

fringe crystal
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understandable

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felt like i was tickling the boss

cobalt dock
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for pure blossom single target, illusion or maged wildhunt is better

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Bearpaw doubls procs

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and Spore procs counts as hits for blossom

random pollen
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boing

ionic bolt
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Mag wildhunt with FoBP for 2x/3x bloom build?
Sounds cool, satan.
I'll try it out

cobalt dock
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Spore on release flashbacks

fringe crystal
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Wouldn't spores Wild Hunt main be good

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Does spores activate per projectile pellet from the Wild Hunt, if so isn't that just a straight up fish or bear paw for blossom enthusiast

fallen escarp
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All spores from the offhand weapon apply if you hit at least once with the main hand weapon.

The main hand weapon only applies 1 spore per hit after that.

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Some examples:

Angelic Aura (x1 projectiles) main and Wild Hunt (x12 by default) offhand would result in the first AA hit applying 13 spores, and 0 spores from remaining projectiles because none remain.

2 Wild Hunts would result in the first WH hit applying 13 spores, and 11 spores from remaining projectiles (if they hit, of course).

Wild Hunt main and Angelic Aura offhand would be 2 spores on first hit, and 11 spores from remaining projectiles (also if they hit).

fringe crystal
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So would the first option be the most ideal

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Because the rof compared to double wild hunts

tacit belfry
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Someone managed to do above 45M per hit with Li and spiritual flame build?

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Firefox blessing 3, Conflagration 3 and Energetic spirit 3 is on, aura of venom and fire tower with elemental share gemini

fallen escarp
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It's why the spore meta is a high RoF weapon with a high projectile+damage shotgun.

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With the main high RoF weapons usually being Rainbow or Radioactive Gauntlet, because they can automatically aim at enemies. Spores don't care about crits after all.

fringe crystal
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Just to clarify, this is the best option for blossom enthusiast yea

fallen escarp
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Well for Blossom Enthusiast you'd want the offhand shotgun to have the highest projectiles, to trigger Spore damage as much as possible.

But depending on what you find, it may not be the fastest hit rate. A good Illusion with good aim will probably beat anything.

fringe crystal
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Lmao

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Sweet, illusion Wild Hunt spore

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Also I have another question if you don't mind

fallen escarp
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Mag share might be better for Illusion.

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Because +25% RoF.

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Though then again...

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Hmm... yeah mag share illusion is definitely better.

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Even at best with talents and stuff you'd get 27.5 or so spores per shot, which is a little under 1 extra hit to add onto 12.5 or whatever Illusion's maximum is with the generalist talent.

fringe crystal
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Combustion takes the damage from whatever applied burning to corrosion and multiplies it, usually this is done with a fire weapon such as a fire tower and it multiplies the BASE damage from the fire tower

Now with crown prince and energy echo, if I apply burning through echo does that multiply combustion off of energy bolts (skill damage +/ elemental) or does it multiply off the held weapon's base damage for the echo

fallen escarp
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Combustion is based on the hit of whatever inflicted Burning/Decay to trigger it.

fringe crystal
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Ah so the energy bolts

fallen escarp
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Yes.

fringe crystal
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Thank you so much

cobalt dock
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just hope Toxic nade doesn’t eat the combustion

fringe crystal
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What would electro dominance be good for then?

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I don't really see a use

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I feel like it was a forced ascension to complete the elemental dominance trio

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Asides from the -90 projectile speed thunderstorm

fallen escarp
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Manipulation doesn't deal any damage. Miasma's damage is based on the enemy, not your weapon/skills, Shock no longer has a damage AoE effect, and pretty much the only Lightning weapons that are decent for damage are Pupil and maybe Lighting Ksana.

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Arc Light and Thunder Storm with its exclusive too, I suppose

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Flowing Light if you're doing Energy Blade shenanigans.

dense dagger
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is there like a good youtube channel that showcases builds and stuff for this game?

fallen escarp
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SlightRNG has a bunch of videos on builds in the game, though some of its information is now outdated, but most of it is still good.

cobalt dock
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getting both Lightning stuff for Lei in SA is fun

dense dagger
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okay thanks

fringe crystal
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If you're playing in multiplayer defensive ascensions are still good, you just probably won't need as much

fallen escarp
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Well, "need" is probably being generous.

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Probably closer to "a nice little bonus so you stop shooting less".

fringe crystal
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😭

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I do think a limit to how often you can get res'd per life until you go down permanently until the next pedler would be nice

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Then after being bought with coins you reset the stacks

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It would give an incentive to pick more defensive ascensions

fallen escarp
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Yep. Many ideas for making revives less of a "play without risk" have been thought of. Several suggestions by myself too.

fringe crystal
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Right now I literally go full glass cannon with no regard

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(I play multiplayer exclusively)

fallen escarp
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It's part of the problem about why people always take pride in having billions of total damage in runs.

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Even when their death count is in the high double digits.

fringe crystal
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Damage is cosmetic

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But high numbers do hit that good spot in my brain

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If over damage wasn't a thing, everyone would finish with 700m maximum in R8

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Without farming lanterns or coyotes

fallen escarp
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Yep, that also doesn't help.

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Overkill ends up making high damage per hit builds look way better than they actually are.

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You can't tell what's actually the best.

fringe crystal
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Well if you count what's been more useful throughout the entire run, itd just come down to skill damage clearing builds

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If we had more beefy punching bags, weapon damage builds would scale so hard

fallen escarp
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Also comes down to similar thing that revives have, where they're just too good with a few key things.

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My personal favorite suggestion I made was to have revives only happen after clearing rooms, or certain special cases.

So if you died in a room, you weren't getting up until the room was cleared. Or you soul revived or something.

fringe crystal
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That sounds amazing actually

fallen escarp
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And each death very slightly made enemies harder.

fringe crystal
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As of the current state of the game lol

fallen escarp
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Probably, but they could only die a limited number of times, because 1 death per room.

fringe crystal
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But that is a pretty creative one

fallen escarp
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The idea being that excess deaths are a bad idea. Just because you can die in every room, doesn't mean you should.

fringe crystal
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Upon death, lose a random scroll 💀

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Or ascension if you have 0 scrolls on you

fallen escarp
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Actually, let me go find the suggestion itself...

fringe crystal
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That's too harsh

fallen escarp
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#old-game-suggestions message

fringe crystal
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The game does have to address people who play casual / on and off

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That's like the majority of players

fallen escarp
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Thankfully we have Reincarnation 1 for that.

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Dunno why casual players try the hardest difficulty then complain it's too hard.

fringe crystal
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Lmfao

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Personally I love the 1st suggestion

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The second is neat but with a cap perhaps

fallen escarp
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Enemy buffs do have a partial cap.

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But if everyone had died enough to reach it, you probably shouldn't win anyway.

fringe crystal
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Wait I didn't see the 50%~

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Wtf

fallen escarp
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Everyone would need to die 21 times to reach that -50% cooldown cap.

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Up to 84 deaths total.

fringe crystal
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Sounds like a sanguine relic, resilient life, fire enthusiast and flesh n bone fortune run

rare quest
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hello, am new

cobalt dock
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doubt

rare quest
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am no lie

red glacier
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this is in fact, true

ionic bolt
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10 deaths = game over screen

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Finish a coop run with 50+ deaths = lose all soul essence Justice

civic tundra
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Does anyone know the time in est for the release tomorrow/1st? My brain is going full stupid and not translating the utc+8

lunar bridge
tame pumice
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hm i did the secret ending, someone said there was credits down here but i'm not seeing them?

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is there something else you have to hit once you jump down to trigger it?

proven kiln
glad iris
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Whatever your timezone is based on the announcement.

red glacier
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yeah

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it'll show the time it will release for you

pearl garden
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I know I'm hella late to this (was with family), but I'll crank out one build I think is easy to achieve in Nightmare:

CrownPrince_2 Triple Threat build

This build focuses on dealing all 3 elements to stack elemental fusion effects. burn + shock = manipulation (CC), burn + decay = explosion (Big damage bonus), shock + decay = miasma (Stackable DoT)

Main weapon: burn (Rapid/multihits for miasma stacking, slower/stronger hits if you want larger explosion damage)
Offhand: shock (high % effect chance...preferably a Flowing Light or Lightning Ksana. Try for 20% or higher)
Gemini (if able): Element share

Use your grenades to apply decay, shoot decayed targets, profit.

Ascensions to look out for

Pyrodominance (Max out if possible--level 3's effect is amazing)
Elemental Rage
Hex Smoke
Toxic Smoke
Advanced Shield (for a defensive buff)
Wildfire (for rapid hits...just 1 level is a solid buff)/Energy Blade (for big hit setups...just 1 level is a solid buff)

Earlier in the run you might use a shock weapon as your primary since miasma doesn't need damage scaling to be effective.

hexed ocean
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is there a good strat for the fully in control achievment

red glacier
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what achievement is that?

fallen escarp
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Turtle or Fox are typically the go-to choices.

fallen escarp
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Deaths right now are cheap.

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When solo says they shouldn't be.

queen citrus
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so what if i died 45 times on my last coop run, that just means it was challenging, right? or does it mean that it wasn't challenging enough?

fallen escarp
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It means you should've failed.

queen citrus
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but failure is not an option. especially when you can chain revive

fallen escarp
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And that's part of the problem.

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Multiplayer is designed where you almost cannot fail.

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Solo is not.

proven kiln
ionic bolt
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Coop chain deaths is both skill issue + no teamwork
If instead of going for a pointless dmg contest wih randoms, you go for different roles it's much better

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Have one player run typical combust whatever, while the other keep elements applied everywhere
Or a tank qing backed by a sniping lei

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On that same note, it's also smoother to go for builds with different reqs for the purpose of abusing coop item quantity to mitigate rng
Skill dmg, weapon dmg etc

pseudo mirage
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Announcement says DLC releases in less than 12 hours, Steam says it's in 23 hours. I'm confused

glad iris
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They both say the same thing

pseudo mirage
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12 AM UTC +8 is 6 hours ahead of me

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So should be 6 PM my time, today

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Yet it's saying 6 AM

glad iris
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What is it?

pseudo mirage
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Steam

fringe crystal
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Enemies are programmed to target the highest damage dealing player

#

Or atleast for elites and bosses

#

So the tank would be pretty much useless

pseudo mirage
#

Why a tank when you can have a CC cat instead

fringe crystal
#

Yea

#

Cat support is the only off role

#

Unless you want a turtle medic

glad iris
#

Just be tank and highest dmg dealer. CP_thonk

fringe crystal
#

Besides that it's just dps builds

pseudo mirage
#

Main importance is not everyone focusing either single target or multi target

#

Gotta diversivy

fringe crystal
#

Ah yea I do that

#

If I see two weapon builds, I'm going skill damage

#

If everyone's playing weapon and skill, I'll go cat and do something else

pseudo mirage
#

I do skill damage 80% of the time cuz it's generally more fun

fringe crystal
#

Yea skill damage is more towards clearing

#

It's fun to wipe out a whole group of enemies with cool effects

pseudo mirage
#

It's also fun to instakill bosses with dog nukes

cobalt dock
#

at this point i just do weapons

pseudo mirage
#

Have you tried rapid fire spiritual flame fox? It's OP once you get your core ascensions

fringe crystal
#

Rapid fire spiritual flame?

#

Like rainbow + fire tower elemental Gemini

lunar bridge
pseudo mirage
#

That's what I figured. Unfortunate tho, that's a day and a half extra waiting to play the new chars with my friend

fringe crystal
#

Isn't it just a day

pseudo mirage
fringe crystal
#

Oh you mean energy draining

#

Yes it's one of my favourite builds

glad iris
#

Steam says AM too that's why I was confused.

pseudo mirage
# fringe crystal Isn't it just a day

Would've been able to play today, but with the actual time it releases tomorrow when I leave for work and next available time for us both is the morning after

rare plume
#

test

ionic bolt
#

Damage is one thing, but you can reliably take aggro and CC if another player's sniping

#

See it how you want, but going in with stuns and manipulations on an invuln build is how tanking goes in gfr

#

You can blast through everything with the usual builds, but that's neither fun in sp or mp

pearl garden
#

The only correct option

#

I fear Brick might replace it tho. Gonna be difficult to resist the temptation of picking every brick I see up.

fallen escarp
#

Only if it can abuse Energy Blade.

red glacier
#

20 hours bb

ionic bolt
#

Conversion => meme combustion nuke brick?

#

I guess the new flame ignition isn't too bad
Been testing it with a corrosive conv rainbow

ionic bolt
#

Cudgel with crit combust sword I guess

lucid coral
#

got an interesting run on doggo

inner ruin
#

so how long till the dlc drops? unless im confused it should have dropped like 30 min ago

river berry
#

check #game-announcements

wanton dawn
#

It’s tonight sadly

river berry
#

it should have a localized time there

lucid coral
#

says 11 hours for me

wanton dawn
#

-_-

lucid coral
#

so 7pm akdt

inner ruin
#

ah so that is localized, and i assume the time in brackets updates?

river berry
#

yep

inner ruin
#

painchamp 6am for me
i thought i did my math right and it was dropping now

lucid coral
#

whatever this says for you

river berry
#

sadly not, i woke up excited today as well lol

inner ruin
#

that approx unlock isnt always accurate, and i dont like relying on it

lucid coral
#

its close enough where i live

river berry
#

well that steam one seems to be the same as the discord one as well

lucid coral
#

though if your outside the US your milage will vary

inner ruin
#

cant wait for the funni number to go from 178 to 188

river berry
#

?

inner ruin
#

cap level is gonna go up by 10 because 2 new characters

river berry
#

oh lol

inner ruin
#

i hope the new bizarre dream modifiers are big boi hardmode ones

lucid coral
#

going by what's posted in the discord it should have unlocked by now, though im guessing they either posted the wrong time on steam or its localized to your timezone

#

im guessing its localized

inner ruin
#

it is :(

#

just gimme the funni magic owl and engi panda plsss

lucid coral
#

now the correct info is posted on steam for me

#

steam be having a siezure over here

river berry
#

you think STEAM has a seizure, poor turtle players gotta navigate by minimap lol

lucid coral
#

run DW morters on dog

#

good luck seeing anything

inner ruin
#

if you dont perma sustain 80 fist sensation what are you even doing on turtle

river berry
#

cant see anything while im ramming people at mach yes

glad iris
#

playing melee weapon build

lucid coral
#

only viable on monkey

inner ruin
#

or play funni atomic dog, just have a permanent stream of nades coming from your face

glad iris
#

nah

lucid coral
#

the nade build is fun its not paticularly good in my experience

river berry
#

lol yeah it is

inner ruin
#

the way i imagine it, dog tosses one nade and then fires the rest as a sort of weird nade breath weapon

lucid coral
#

though to be fair i havent tried it with the new stuff

river berry
#

the bf and i oneshot the last boss on R8 with it XD

inner ruin
#

wym atomic dog is broken

glad iris
#

atomic dog residentsleeper

inner ruin
#

its so broken that you genuinly could fall asleep mid bossfight and still win

lucid coral
#

DW mortars happens to be more entertaining

river berry
#

we got his dog to have 60+ grenades

inner ruin
#

more entertaining, sure
but better? i dont think anything is better than atomic dog, just in terms of effectiveness

lucid coral
#

also just more scrolls that are useful for you

#

ive seen Li output some silly skill dps

#

also when i did nade build spirit bible didnt exist yet

inner ruin
#

very mediocre run, still easy 4 billion

lucid coral
#

so that should tell you how ancient i am

river berry
#

spirit bible + enh peddler scroll

#

just stack SO much skill dmg

#

get yourself enduring caster and vet too and you just win

lucid coral
#

see things like surprise bonus, bible, and rational consumpion didnt exist and i dont think the critx skill damage blessing did either

glad iris
#

Just take atomic and endless assault from lone wolf and you've already won.

inner ruin
#

exactly. thats literally all you need, and you get it right at the start

#

everything else just exists to pump up the funni big number at the end

river berry
#

honestly that starter wolf roll is the make or break for most of our challenge runs

inner ruin
#

lone wolf is a bit too strong imo
they should make enemies health scale too, not just amount and damage

#

please gimme 8x health enemies
i wanna struggle again :'(

river berry
#

imma go make a porkchop, anyone want one? o:

inner ruin
#

8-11x

#

yes pls

#

need to gain weight and that'd be wonderful

pseudo mirage
#

I, too, would like 8-11 porkchops

river berry
#

i need to lose weight so im on a meat only diet, no carbs for me 😛

red glacier
#

pig character next DLC trust trust

pseudo mirage
#

Meat pog, that sounds like a wonderful diet

river berry
#

plus meats awesome

red glacier
#

turns into porkchops on death

river berry
#

O:

inner ruin
pseudo mirage
proud shale
#

eat your guns

red glacier
#

actually true

river berry
#

eat the corpses...

proud shale
#

gains double damage (stacking throughout the run) every time you get a bun

inner ruin
#

a bmi of 16 is suboptimal so i could use it
guns dont have calories. well i guess they sort of do

red glacier
#

eat your guns

pseudo mirage
cobalt dock
#

@red glacier imma call you when im on my way home tomorrow and i want info AoBai_Gun

red glacier
#

on it saluteF

pseudo mirage
#

So which of the upcoming characters are y'all most excited about?

river berry
#

the pig 🙂

pseudo mirage
#

Lmao

red glacier
#

because purple

pseudo mirage
#

Just because purple?

river berry
#

hes purple? o:

pseudo mirage
#

Yeee Mech is hype af, it's like Gage from Borderlands mixed with TF2 Engineer

proud shale
#

praying there's something that lets it shoot your guns
ie. you can give mortar and it will shoot mortar

pseudo mirage
#

That'd be sick

#

I already love that you can manually control the turrets

#

Maybe gun stats/effects apply to those too?

red glacier
red glacier
pseudo mirage
#

Fair enough

#

Owl is basically Gambit

high salmon
#

gambit?

pseudo mirage
#

Yes. From X-Men

#

Throws cards

proud shale
#

who tf made this edit and turned it into a gif

#

lmao

lucid coral
#

yea no this still feels like ass

#

1.6m was the highest i got 10.2 critx

lucid coral
inner ruin
#

you started armed caster

#

and no double exhilaration

fringe moth
#

what does the player count thing you can change on lone wolf do?

#

you can go from 2 to 4 player count

#

does it scale the mobs health to the amount of player count you chose?

glad iris
#

just mob count and dmg

lucid coral
#

24 nades

fringe moth
inner ruin
#

oh nvm you actually hit what you needed to

fringe moth
glad iris
#

4b with atomic is just overkill dmg.

#

not to mention he had skill freak as well

lucid coral
#

maybe people shouldnt post them selfs cheating

glad iris
#

along with overconsumption

#

Just a crazy amount of boost to skill dmg, there's no cheating.

pseudo mirage
#

Damage also depends on when you throw the nades. Big difference between throwing at 16 nades and throwing at 10 for example

ionic bolt
pseudo mirage
ionic bolt
#

To a lesser extend, your typical injector-argus spore build as well; smaller numbers but considerably faster clear speed- basically wallhack spawnkilling

lucid coral
#

so it would have to be dual edge + deadly curse giving him that damage

ionic bolt
#

Atomic is dog-tier rng, to say it nicely
it can range from mediocre to average broken

pseudo mirage
#

And Extravagant Consumption

#

With the refund one

glad iris
#

overconsumption actually does do something with that many scrolls.

lucid coral
#

i see 60% reduced effect

#

at least

#

so now that ive confirmed your average run is infact not average at all assuming you actually had the rng for it

#

your still full of it

pseudo mirage
#

I also don't see them mentioning their max single hit damage

ionic bolt
#

Tbh a large chunk of atomic damage comes from overkill hits on immortal mobs with 32 throws

pseudo mirage
#

Do the extra hits count?

ionic bolt
#

Stat board damage != general build effectiveness

#

0hp immortal mobs still feed you damage

pseudo mirage
#

Oh what

#

That's wild

ionic bolt
#

they're the main source of damage pp screenshots

glad iris
#

And there's events that give that effect on r8.

ionic bolt
#

Anyone can rack up obscene final damage numbers, it says very little about anything of the build

lucid coral
#

not to mention this build feels like butt to play since its either no damage or all your damage in a short go

pseudo mirage
#

I mean... it says something about the damage

lucid coral
pseudo mirage
ionic bolt
#

A monkey with depot and the right build can probably do damage cap on every shot of a high rof gun
Add a few immortal sandbags and there you go

#

"bIG dAmAgE"

lucid coral
#

you are reliant on a 40% proc to do your damage

#

to say thats annoying is an understatement

pseudo mirage
#

Which you can try to proc every second

#

Lol

#

And you can proc it WHILE actively nuking

glad iris
#

There's also Double Explosions which increases your chances of it procing.

lucid coral
#

i was better off shooting things with the illusion i picked up for most of the early game since i rnged my way to armour breaker on complete accident

ionic bolt
#

Atomic is an old, outdated rng broken build
It works but by now, the game's in shambles to the point it's "weak"
Emphasis on rng

lucid coral
#

yea

#

your more often then not gonna lose a run going atomic

ionic bolt
#

Spore rework and giga big hit combusts by themselves made atomic irrelevant

#

and those work across all characters with no rng for base reqs

#

then Li and monke exist anyway

glad iris
#

Do you mean you're less likely going to lose a run going atomic? Because...

lucid coral
#

i lost one run going in on it and won the second one

proud shale
#

lmao

pseudo mirage
#

Skill issue

lucid coral
#

bruh you dont get the goblet you need in the first room on r8 your screwed

glad iris
#

You can just take endless assault as your lone wolf blessing and it's gg

proud shale
#

^^^^^^

ionic bolt
#

It still has core ascension requirements, then rather vital extras/scrolls like double exhi
Anything below that and you may as well improvise a spore gemini/pick up mortars

#

also lone wolf doesn't really count, you can start overconsum and win instantly

lucid coral
#

more often then not your probably gonna abort and go mortar spores

ionic bolt
#

regardless of build

#

Lone wolf is a sandbox meme

#

Step 1) Lone wolf
2) savescum your next blessings
3) flex

pseudo mirage
#

Capacity Overdraft is not good on nuke dog, right? Because damage is dependant on current nade count?

ionic bolt
#

Current nade count + atomic bless stacking damage for a very short time every nade hit

pseudo mirage
#

Yeah. So throwing at 0 is pointless anyway

lucid coral
#

I something id like to see, in the game as a whole is winrate% for every tier of reincarnation

ionic bolt
#

Go dual wield bloody drills or something, atomic's a fossil nowadays

pearl garden
lucid coral
#

i just p2w my next blessing

#

i have 17k soul essence

ionic bolt
#

You can't reroll act blessings without savescumming the rest save
Only the starter room one

lucid coral
#

ah

#

thought you ment the first room

ionic bolt
#

Use fire to save, quit, reload, repeat until desired blessing

lucid coral
#

didnt know you could save scum those

#

id have a much higher solo win rate

glad iris
#

There's the alt+ f4 scum as well if that still works.

#

When you go down you could alt + f4 and restart at last save. Only worked if you had a revive.

lucid coral
#

ah

#

at that point why are you playing a rouge like

glad iris
#

I don't even do it, just discovered it from experimenting.

ionic bolt
#

GFR is a gamebreak sandbox

#

P sure it dropped the whole roguelite thing veeeery early on

lucid coral
#

even in the ancient times at inital early access you could break the game quickly

pseudo mirage
#

Did they fix the literal invincibility combo in Spiritual Assault yet?

lucid coral
#

projectiles per enemy killed on a corrosion/fire weapon with share element

#

same thing for light/corrosion

ionic bolt
glad iris
#

unless it's birb

lucid coral
#

feels old oppressor

#

that was broken

#

win every run with one simple trick

#

it also didnt have a cool down

#

old oppressor if yalls didnt know what it did basically it gave you 150% increased damage with double tap and no cool down

#

also unnerfed wild hunt

pseudo mirage
#

Average nuke dog run

lucid coral
#

how long you spend hitting an immortal mob

pseudo mirage
#

I actually checked the damage difference on those and didn't notice any

lucid coral
#

yea

#

interesting

pseudo mirage
#

This is just reincarn 8 with lonewolf 4

lucid coral
#

ah

#

is this a multiplictive source

#

i would assume not

pseudo mirage
#

Prob additive

lucid coral
#

thats what i figured

#

not sure how i ended up with a max hit of 1.6m, cause i had armed caster giving me 512% increased damage one dog army giving me another 150%

#

base damage 3

#

explosion radius 3

pseudo mirage
#

I hit 5.3m with like, 500% from Extravagent Consumption and a bunch of other scrolls

lucid coral
#

ah

pseudo mirage
#

Didn't shoot ever unless I needed more grenades

lofty bay
#

Average dog run

lucid coral
#

"average"

pseudo mirage
#

I mean, below average dog run. Average dog nuke run

lucid coral
#

just hitting the goblets is unlikely as hell

pseudo mirage
#

Dual wield can get MUCH higher damage

lucid coral
#

DW is just more consistent take counter violence weapon genius win game

pseudo mirage
#

Yup

#

Crit thunder cat is also easy high damage

#

The friend I play with hit for 20 mil with him once

#

Pretty sure he was the first to do so at the time because we couldn't find anyone else achieving it until months later

lucid coral
#

highest i got was 7.9mil not sure what i was playing

#

probably wild hunt birb

#

get that juicy 13 crit

#

motar on bird is weird af

glad iris
lucid coral
#

that would actually be worth using over one dog then i wasnt offered it chose one dog

#

thats something i will test later to confirm

#

they could make that clearer and say chance to deal 200/300% More Base Damage

#

take ye old page out of path of exiles book

ionic bolt
#

Regular T&G lei is baby's first zap

#

Try bolt from the blue with a lightning orb sunder (MUST BE HOST for full effectiveness)

#

Spawn TooMany(tm) orbs, press fatal current; enjoy

#

It's just like your stacked t&g nukes, except now it's several dozens times at once continually on everything

lucid coral
pearl garden
#

Which is a good thing because things there get complicated quickly.

#

Yo guys check out my build where X happens but only if Y does A and when X happens A resets Y but only if LMNOP is Q

ionic bolt
#

"yo check out my build"
Insert engineer essay

lucid coral
#

what you dont want to stack 20 frenzy charges that give you almost 100 flat damage a piece while also giving you 80% more damage 300% increased damage 140% increased attack speed

#

just raider things

ionic bolt
#

@fallen escarp Jokes aside, since they've recently asked for votes/corrections on specific translations, are they generally open about those?
Given that the game still suffers from mediocre translation/ambiguity across the board (especially stat wise)
We could provide proper, sorted and formatted text (where applicable if we know)

#

Base/additive/total in particular really need proper wording, and not just on a random case basis

lucid coral
#

there are some scrolls that imply that they are multiplictive when their not and vice versa

ionic bolt
#

🥔

lucid coral
#

the reason i know what stuff does is from personal testing

#

i will give them credit it is much better then it was

ionic bolt
#

unfortunately, if proper wording is only on random cases, it only makes the confusion worse

lucid coral
#

you ever read perfect sixth

ionic bolt
#

honestly not the worst

lucid coral
#

its not

#

tis an example though

ionic bolt
#

They're also spamming spaces between characters to not start a new line/go out of bounds instead of formatting properly.. which is honestly a new one

inner ruin
#

i wish the wording in the game followed the poe template
that would make things so much easier

bright quest
#

omg so close

fluid moss
#

6 hours ????

#

i thought utc+8 was 4hrs ahead of est

#

'_'

bright quest
#

im pst

paper halo
#

interesting

lucid coral
#

tfw utc -8

paper halo
#

i just hope the price is at least low enough

lucid coral
#

akdt bb

paper halo
#

im est

#

so i say around 11 pm my time

lucid coral
#

im probably gonna take a nap

#

wake up play osu completely forget there is a dlc untill i get 900 pings about it from my friends

bright quest
#

how much did the last dlc cost

lucid coral
#

i think it was 10 bucks

bright quest
#

not bad

lucid coral
#

apparently i got it for 5.59

next trout
#

UTC+8 is 6pm rn

#

or am i buggin

lucid coral
#

its localized

paper halo
#

well they said its gonna be on a discount for both the game and the DLC

lucid coral
#

its 6:20 am utc+8

next trout
#

right

#

so did the game update

lucid coral
#

no

paper halo
#

not yet...i would know

bright quest
next trout
#

DLC Release Time Announcement

DLC "Artisan and Magician" and a Free Update for the base game will be released on June 1, 2023, at 12:00 AM (UTC +8)

paper halo
#

yea but what is the other update besides the new heros and weapons

#

its kinda funny no ones talking about the other content

next trout
#

everyone just ignored it or something idk

bright quest
#

maybe a new level

paper halo
#

imagine...PVP arena...everyone will WAKEUP real fast!

red glacier
#

because we didn't get much info about the other stuff

lucid coral
#

any 2020 gamers in the chat

next trout
#

where do i pull that up

sweet plover
#

I'm quite excited to yeet a brick against my enemies ngl

red glacier
#

we know that the "new map" is a new spiritual assault map in the first area

lucid coral
#

steam purchases becareful about what you post from there

paper halo
#

yeeting bricks....thats the brooklyn classic

red glacier
#

and the only thing we don't know is the bizarre dream modifier

bright quest
red glacier
#

we are definitely not getting that

#

nowhere does it say we are

next trout
red glacier
#

any may 2020 gamers in chat 💪🔥🙏

paper halo
#

may 2020? meaning?

next trout
lucid coral
#

basically first launch early access

paper halo
#

oh yea ...thats me..

#

im one of them..

#

im one of the veterns teaching you young peoples how to shoot a gun.

lucid coral
#

i was 3 months late to the boat, though im not sure i really missed much outside bug fixes

paper halo
#

i remember when i played early access.....before all these new things appeared...all these new weapons and all the new hip content

#

back in my day we used......well i just used whatever XD

lucid coral
#

when you only had 500 SE cap

surreal sierra
#

Are people in Europe able to play now? Past 12pm UTC+8 I believe.

lucid coral
#

and before that you had to spend it or lose it

paper halo
#

oh yea yea things are much more forgiving now

#

before this young...beautiful....adorable...foxy fox came into my life named Li .....i dumped Cat prince and started Dating Li.

#

and now we burn everything together baby!

sly mountain
#

can we remove the bleeding affix?

#

cause my god its not fun to fight against

paper halo
#

i mean dont get me wrong Cat is still good..

lucid coral
paper halo
#

i had no issues with bleed

sly mountain
paper halo
#

just dont get hit

lucid coral
#

elite pyros with bleed are just annoying though the entire game is a dps check so just do more damage 4head

paper halo
#

were talking about reincarnation right?

#

Level 8?

sly mountain
#

yea

#

bleed with multi hits are really the issue

paper halo
#

yea ...you think those guys are bad....

#

wait till you see the bleeds done by the penguins riding a baboon

sly mountain
paper halo
#

i stand on a rock and they cant hit me

#

thats usually how i handle them

#

as for eleite pyros...high ground

#

if thats not a option...stay behind them and time their cooldowns

#

movement speed and snowboots can do wonders

#

another nice one is having fire enthusiast

#

dispite its burning..its life steal can be surprisingly useful with a fast weapon

#

veterns tips to being a badass

prime rose
#

The DLC releasing today is gonna be paid right

proud shale
#

Yes

cold seal
#

so what time is 12am usc to eastern

prime rose
#

In #game-announcements

#

You can see your local time

#

This post #game-announcements message

pearl garden
frank salmon
#

what times the new content drop?

#

anybody know off hand?

fallen escarp
forest basin
frank salmon
#

word so right at midnight for steam servers?

#

ill prolly hop into it right when it drops

#

i run both versions, i wonder if theyll ever apply any of the content to the xbox version

red glacier
#

eventually

celest lynx
#

so I opened the game and I think I clicked the Player Information button as it loaded in, so thats apparently the default data for when your stuff hasn't been updated into it

celest lynx
paper halo
pliant violet
#

when is the DLC release time

#

nvm

#

so midnight

#

omg omgo mgmg omg

red glacier
#

yes

low plank
#

didnt they say 12 am utc +8 that is like 8pm easetern so why isnt it out yet

red glacier
#

please check #game-announcements

#

#game-announcements message

rare quest
sly mountain
#

God I am excited

pliant violet
#

we should have been able to buy before

red glacier
fallen escarp
#

The ultimate balance patch.

#

He can't suck if he doesn't exist.

lofty bay
#

all characters are now close to the same power level

fallen escarp
#

If you think about it, technically you're right.

#

Because the damage cap and enemy HP limits exist, so most of them can't even get any stronger in the first place.

pliant violet
bright quest
#

for me its 9pm

pliant violet
bright quest
#

1 hour 57 min

pliant violet
#

how do you see minutes?

rare quest
#

you don't

bright quest
#

you dont, i just know its in like 2 hours

#

even if it says 1

turbid heart
#

I keep refreshing as if it'd make waiting easier, I am very excited, anyone else refreshing?

paper halo
#

sooo 20 more mins?

turbid heart
#

Midnight EST.

spiral ether
#

hour and 20 min more

turbid heart
#

1 hour 20 minutes.

paper halo
#

well i just finished a reincarnation level 8 run sooo yea

#

im chilling now.

turbid heart
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Congrats! I've never done that before.

paper halo
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wow all the Li mains coming out to play

turbid heart
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I'm spooked by Reincarnation 2, ha-haa.

mental mauve
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I can only play on 8 because I am like really cool and stuff

turbid heart
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I play Li and Qing the most.

paper halo
turbid heart
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Yeah, but everything's like that.

paper halo
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i usually try my best to trigger all elemental fusions

turbid heart
paper halo
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fire and electric in particulur..

mental mauve
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thank you for validating me :' )

turbid heart
paper halo
turbid heart
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I've never tried playing around elemental combos.

mental mauve
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it's nice to watch the enemies wale on eachother

paper halo
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another good combo is electric and poison

turbid heart
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I'll investigate it, probably after the MM run at GDQ.

ionic bolt
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Damage wise (enemy ff) it's pretty worthless
But as a defense layer, manipulation is excellent
Affected mobs cannot aggro or collateral you with their attacks

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Emphasis on no collateral

turbid heart
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I've never thought about that, that sounds considerably stronger than I thought about it.

ionic bolt
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A manipulated arsonist firing at stuff won't harm you if you bath in it's fire

paper halo
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minipulation is one of my main defenses in high level play ..especially when solo

ionic bolt
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But ye enemy friendly fire does no relevant dmg

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Implying R8/SA scaling, as per standard

turbid heart
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If I end up with a fire and lightning weapon, I'm going to go for the elemental gemini for sure.

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I wish I was better at SA, it's big fun.

ionic bolt
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Manip alone unfortunately becomes useless vs elites and bosses

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Don't "main" it

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It's a side defense layer

paper halo
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a good example of my build is the blazing meteor build...where i use poison mixed with a electric....with blazing meteor to add fire into it

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soo i do poison fire and eletric all at the same time

ionic bolt
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It doesn't affect elites/bosses and virtually does no dmg

paper halo
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bosses still get melted by my build

turbid heart
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Is this going to be on the test?

paper halo
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with my elemental combination

turbid heart
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...I hope I pass.

mental mauve
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question: how to make tiger cannon viable?

ionic bolt
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This is gfr, almost anything will delete 4p r8, that's not the point

mental mauve
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I feel like I am hitting enemies with a pool noodle past a certain point

ionic bolt
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but even then, the gun's RoF is too slow to keep up with the reloads (implying no depot/rng but just weapon mastery reload)

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Maybe ao bai in SA with shockwave blessing, AoE/explosion ascensions, explosive bullets and 3x exclu+fire conv jade and gemini
Otherwise it's practically unusable in R8 scaling

tribal kindle
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Anyone know the time the expansion drops?

fallen escarp
paper halo
fallen escarp
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That's pretty much the only time it can get anything better than "decent".

ionic bolt
fallen escarp
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Well, First Strike Monke also counts.

turbid heart
paper halo
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also...

ionic bolt
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Nah I mean grenade shockwave double fire converted TC
Or dual wielded fire/corro

paper halo
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the DLC JUST HIT THE STORES!

turbid heart
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Got it.

mighty tide
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Just bought it

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I checked about a minute ago, but it wasn't open

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but now it was open

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bought 3 of them for me and my friends

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wait, is the new update coming together?

paper halo
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the DLC is out but the update is not there yet?

turbid heart
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Update doesn't seem to be out yet, no.

spiral ether
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yeah dlc is out but not game update

mighty tide
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maybe it was my fault thinking the update will come together with the dlc

turbid heart
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I'm not fussing, I can wait.

sweet plover
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Hey guys, you can force the update by going offline in steam and then go online

turbid heart
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I'm excited to check the patch notes.

mighty tide
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Most of the Korean games have this thing where

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New DLC = New Content + Big Update

mighty tide
turbid heart
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I got the update going, you were quite right.

paper halo
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ill wait till the update is out first before buying

turbid heart
sweet plover
digital eagle
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I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT

turbid heart
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Apologies if the overreliance on images aren't helpful.

digital eagle
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I WANTED IT AS A WALLAPPER, I LOVE YOU MWAH

red glacier
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YOOOO

turbid heart
red glacier
mighty tide
turbid heart
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Not super large, my bad internet just finished getting it.

mighty tide
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the dlc patch was like 167.8 mb

ionic bolt
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Maybe we're getting another kind of radio gauntlet to make rainbow even less relevant Justice

red glacier
mighty tide
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OH SHIT

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Looks amazing

sweet plover
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New frame, I think 9 scrolls?

turbid heart
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Salivating for the patch notes.

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Olli's starving.

digital eagle
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Hoping this fits my screen

sweet plover
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Yooo the new frame is DOPE!

mighty tide
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so new update is out now?

wise oasis
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yes it is

sweet plover
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yes

turbid heart
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Indeed.

mighty tide
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I'm very confused

wise oasis
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dlc is out too

mighty tide
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is it like

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167 mb

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or what

wise oasis
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yes

mighty tide
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oh

digital eagle
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@red glacier I love you, MWAH

mighty tide
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then my game just patched itself

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damn

sweet plover
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Now I reached to...... 188 player level

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Time to update my username kekw

red glacier
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letsgooooo bb

digital eagle
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I am going to leave this chat, I gotta wait before I can get the DLC

agile helm
red glacier
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sokiii

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you tryin the update?

mighty tide
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sorry about that

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guys so I have one dumb question

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what's with the chicken

turbid heart
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I want to, but I'm also wanting to watch the LoZ:MM Rando run.

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I don't know, and I'm ready to find out.

red glacier
mighty tide
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it will take some time for me to find out because

sweet plover
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Trying out the Owl!

sly mountain
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how does one update now that i have dlc?

mighty tide
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my friends will be home after at least 6 hours

wise oasis
agile helm
mighty tide
sweet plover
rare quest
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bro, it's already out?

paper halo
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theirs a easier way

agile helm
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🧐but i will give it a try if i get it for free

rare quest
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and I'm still outside. sadge

wise oasis
paper halo
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click on this

rare quest
paper halo
wise oasis
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it'll still be here bro

fringe crystal
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OO OOO AAA AAA

red glacier
rare quest
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oo, i can remote download. thanks steam

turbid heart
fringe crystal
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THERE IS NO WAY

rare quest
fringe crystal
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What are they smoking omegalul

agile helm
fringe crystal
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It's not even an Ascension it's a PASSIVE talent

paper halo
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its called having "fun"

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now you get revived for free

turbid heart
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Owl looks wild too.

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What do you all think this means?

sweet plover
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Watch out guys, Im throwing bricks >:))

rare quest
turbid heart
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It puts an icon by your name.

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If I had to guess, it sounds almost like you get to deposit a weapon, and bring it into another run?

mighty tide
cloud fiber
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is owl complicated or am I dumb?

turbid heart
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Complicated.

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Good things happen when you match colors.

mighty tide
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I haven't even played it yet, so I'm going to have the exact same problem in about 7 hours

rancid rose
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Oh looks fun I can't wait to play with the brick lol