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critx is the multiplier for a hit on a weak spot
explosive weapons (usually) can't crit
So is 100% lucky shot actually more DPS than 110% because it always doubles damage, rather than 3x the dmg 10% of the time?
110% will always double, with a chance to triple
Ah ok I see ty
So if I'm looking for a one shot sniper build it seems like critx and lucky shot are both really important?
300% is the lucky shot limit, is there a critx limit?
i don’t think there’s a limit, exactly
but at some point you run out of ways to increase it
luck and crit has no cap
yay just got sky is the limit achiement was planning on whole run, but I was slow to get to the snake 25mins on the clock 😄
I have one question.
Why do Double Exhilaration and Endless Assault not work properly? For example, if I have two spirit blessings to begin with, one of them being Endless Assault, I would have 16 grenades. And if I get Double Exhilaration, shouldn't the total amount of my grenades be 32?
Did you have 24 max secondary?
It'd be endless assault + double exhilaration.
Which would be 200%.
Yes
I had 16 with endless assault only
Even when I got double exhilaration, it was 24
That's because the bonuses are added with each other.
100% + 100% = 200%
8 + 200% = 24
Oh it's not double of what I already have
Sorry, I have trouble understanding some words
I'm pretty sure I have never once used the shield on the ksana lol
I have and im just curious how it works
I beat reincarnation 8 finally
Is Xing Zhe stronger than most classes? I usually play with my buddy and feel like I have a much easier time getting a build going compared to him.
No. He's pretty average.
His strength comes from knowing how to use his skills to the fullest.
I see
Well I’ve only unlocked reincarnation 3 so far so I guess it’s not very obvious yet. We’re also very new to the game and have yet to learn what makes builds truly stronger
has a relatively synergistic kit so it's hard to end up useless with him. Chances are you can find a good weapon and make things work.
I'd say out of everyone him or
feel the most cohesive in terms of their entire build being useful. Secondary skills are useful beyond damage, primary has uses beyond primary builds, both work well with many weapons right out the gate, etc.
hey, is it somehow possible to "change" profile or something like that so I could easily play with a friend who just got into the game and not "infect" his gameplay with my unlocked weapons and scrolls?
I know I could just avoid sharing them but I am looking for a simpler way
So I could re-enjoy unlocking stuff with him
Top-right in the main menu has a button for showing archives, which are basically save files.
Just make a new archive.
that works, thank you!
Yeah monkey is my favorite character because of this
He's a great pick for a fav. I was surprised when he released how balanced he felt.
The other is Li and we don't talk about her 
It negates a single hit.
R8 LW4 is so difficult
Only if you didn't pick a good Lone Wolf blessing.
I keep getting screwed at the start with terrible ascension picks
but I mean also like come on man I got oneshot in the desert by an elite invis guy
Doubt it. They don't do enough damage to pierce through your shield and Emergency Protocol.
no of course I didn't have protocol I had just used it avoiding the rest of the elite swarm event elites
Emergency Protocol is the one that reduces damage to HP when your Shield/Armor breaks.
yeah I know
It's always active as long as you've fully recharged your shield/armor since the last use.
No cooldown.
maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing
Life Guardian, probably.
Which prevents lethal damage when above a certain HP threshold, but has a long cooldown.
either way I'm angry and wanted to complain
I must have been at like just barely full then
because I took 253 damage
Of course, if you had Paranormality it might've been capable.
Just experienced First Strike + Star Devourer Exclusive. That was something.
I want to try Foundry build, where I just pick a weapon at the start of the game, level it up until the end, and use my Foundry along the way.
What would be the best scrolls?
Same ones as you'd normally use with a non-elemental weapon.
Though Advanced Depot is slightly better than normal, because you never run out of reserve ammo.
Thank you

I'm able to play the game at its highest settings now.
Yo this game is pretty as hell
I hope to do so as well when I change my computer
It won't be a massive upgrade, but it'll be decent I think
Should I just wait until I finish all the talent trees and buy all the characters before I do reincarnation? Don’t have any essence to buy the buffs or stuff from the phantom peddler
Not exactly. If you can run with others you can make on Reincarnation than otherwise
And the other options you can run too like spirit link can make your builds better without costing essence
Usually the payout is worth it, too, as Reincarnation rewards lots of essence. Can be easy to beat runs if starting with an OP blessing.
Pay a little to get started, earn more sorta thing
Does spiritual link effect enemies? No right?
It does not. Pure buff for the player.
hey what are the actually good extra spiritual blessings to use
I've been swapping between skill freak, ult firearm, and armed caster (for lei's dope ass lightning)
Painkiller and Overconsumption, mostly.
Endless Assault when paired with Atomic Bomb.
is overconsumption really that good?
Due to its large variety of powerful buffs, it's never not good.
There is no build where taking it is a bad idea.
yeah I just noticed
i just realized that monkey gets a free hit when you nearly kill him... i thought it was just an extra save from death.... but appearntly its a full cudgel hit
The cudgel hit also fully recharges your shield if it kills the enemy that lethally struck you, too.
@spark raven
aw man messed up
forgot to upgrade the angelic aura from the craftsman before snake boss area
pinged
Oh shit im sorry
lol its fine
I was reading older messages and was gonna say its not
i just wont be able to afford the dlc thats all. and i wanna play the new characters
turtle guy is cool
anyone down to play???
#1064937664870101033
i dont think ill ever have a better SA run https://i.imgur.com/7uAj3im.png
I'm intrigued and disgusted.
62 possible??
:3
two normal break the ice and one enhanced. first and last scrolls were both normal break the ice. so many scrolls lmao.
@fringe crystal are you proud of me yet lmao
niceeee
N-ICE
i thought damage cap was over 100m
ive been lied to so many times 
auraaaaaaaaaaaaa
Technically the dmg cap is probably either 2bil or 4bil.
there was a monkey on reddit who did like 360m
Whichever the int range is.
only via Argus Spirit inscription
Any of you guys faced a glitch with final boss when using bird? I only do 150-200mil against him despite high overall dmg
- Overkill damage throughout the run counts.
- Damage to the invincible Pole Monarch clones when Mysterious Jokul is active and playing multiplayer also counts.
jon in steam chat ???
hello is there any date for new dlc ?
Some date after today.
i occasionally make an appearance
not that we know of
idk if this is possible but anyone got effective split and got paranormality and flesh and bones?
i remember a while ago i picked the 2 up just to see and i had 1 hp no shield im wondering if someone actually got stuck with them
Yes, you can get both from Effective Split at the same time.
oof thats rough. i got flesh and bones on tiger and its misery i cant imagine both
Yes i got it
When are peak play times for NA? I wanna know when the best times to queue are
I know I'm 2 days late but, which character did you play?
Most likely Dog
dog
Thank you
I'm sorry to bother you, but can you show me what your spirit concentrators are?
Thank you sir!
New to spiritual assault, around the 2nd enhanced elite bosses I seem to suddenly stop doing any real damage. I’ve even tried different builds. Am I just getting unlucky with scrolls or something? I’m leveling the weapons up and trying for geminis too.
Even the basic enemies seem to take a ton of ammo to kill. I must be doing something wrong
You're not scaling your build up fast enough.
i keep getting a glitch in spiritual assault where i cant charge up fox ult beyond 2 things of energy regardless of having energetic spirit 3
ORAORAORAORA
got real spooked when i didnt beat the pole monarch DPS gate but luckily apsis came in clutch
still no update news, right?
Yep.
When there is update news you will likely see it in #game-announcements
The common people have no more knowledge than you do
same as what i just wrote, no one knows, q2 is all we've been told
monkey counterviolence or first strike which is the harder hitting accension...
as the first one..
Depends what you're going for, but I prefer counterviolence as it's easier to get the ball rolling with and works with everything you find.
In spiritual assault how does "a good man" work it never gives the buff whether I self revive or a teammate does it it just days 0% dmg and mvm speed
Did your teammate have a good man or did you have it
did you revive your teammate?
I don't know about the self revive part but
a good man is usually active when you revive your teammate
Both resulted in 0%
not the other way around
My only guess is you moved onto the next stage as that resets the stacks
Horde mode
It lasts 180 seconds. Maybe the timer ran out on it
have there been any leaks about the new heroes and stuff?
why would there be leaks
Also
rule 7
Do not discuss or engage in piracy, cheating, modding, data mining, leaked materials or similar topics revolving around Gunfire Reborn.
^
was it known cloning elite's split variants can drop extra goblets lol
wtf LOL
👀
been a while since i've been here... just had a wild firefox run. is there a channel to post game highlights? also, are there any unofficial/community leaderboards?
#1032959528305700864 for posting game highlights. There used to be #hall-of-fame for various achievements, but it's since been unused because many achievements don't matter much anymore. #speedrun-discussion exists for fast run times though.
thanks! 🙂
Maybe not but I had it before with a random elite invasion beetle in long long dropping a globlet and had cloning and the clones also dropped a globlet each
as in you got 3 goblets ?
Yes
It might be a special interaction, such that when an elite which would drop a goblet(event or last elite in jokul event) gets Cloning, the clones all have a chance to also drop a goblet
but Jokul clones would never be able to spawn if they also had the potential to drop goblets which is maybe why its only happened to us both on the random event and not jokul
There's probably a lot of stuff like that in the game that we will never truly know. Only be able to guess lmao
eh, it makes the most sense based on the context of the situations so I'll just roll with it until something disproves it :)
do we have splinter orb in spirit assault?
No. You have Roving Orb instead.
HI! I'm new to the game. I'm having a lot of fun, but is there any reliable sources I can check out for what's good on each individual character? Just a baseline sort of thing. Thsnks!
you can check out SlightRNG's YouTube channel
or the gunfire wiki where there are some listed builds
sidenote, has anyone here played painkiller prince on spiritual assault?
how is it?
is it in SA?
i dont think so...
a Jade i assume
I don't see a painkiller jade.
Still haven't even played SA oops
Oh my god a brick
When did they decide to add my gaming PC to the update 💀
i assume they are the new characters “grenades”
By the message i'd assume weapons or scrolls
" new items coming to the inn"
I want a brick weapon
1: Brick (square object?)
2: Star Ring (looks quite space like/constellation)
3) Jet Octopus ( looks like one on its side, id imagine maybe like the octopus weapon the enemy uses)
4) Wolf Gaze (Looks like a wolf)
b r i c k
how did you get that?
These are the previews of the characters
like i just said
those are likely the 4 weapons being added
remember that there is the DLC item currently in a jar for fox/monke
Is there?
go to main menu
Oh right. although i think i was kinda spot on with linking the two posts
Yo I just joined the PC club but I was curious do we not have ads on PC? The only weapon I've had it work with is sniper so far
Other weapons like aura of Venum left trigger on controller does weapon ability
I know I know it's dumb I'm still playing on controller lol. Spent more on laptop then I budgeted so still need to get a good mouse & keyboard
It doesn't seem as needed on PC it's just weird cuz I'm so used to it !
I'm a total noob to steam so I was looking forever online trying to find gunfire Reborn PC that wasn't steam lmao
Yeah that's probably why I felt like it's not needed on pc
The weapons feel so much better though. I'm struggling with steam settings for using ps4. Had it working then messed with settings looking for gyro and now my ps4 doesn't work right lol
did you get it on game pass pc?
or did you end up getting it on Steam?
Steam
Which should have I got it from?
Awesome. I was going to be mad if I messed up but I'd have just bought it again cuz I love me some gunfire
Not digging starting all over though
you can grab someone else's save
That's pretty slick
Do you use those half keyboard gaming keyboard mouse combos?
Do you play controller or mouse?
mouse
Do you use those gaming mouse & keyboard setups with the half keyboard?
No, I just have a standard keyboard and a mouse with 2 extra buttons.
Im just new to PC gaming and was looking at my options. Idk if the 2022 ROG zephyrus G15 keyboard isn't the greatest for gaming since keys are flush, or if it's just my total noobness lol
nah just mouse and keyboard
i have that exact laptop
and i can tell you it's pretty great
flush but clicky and a fair bit of travel
it'll serve you well
Yours have Ryzen 9 6000 series and RTX 3060?
3070 and Ryzen 9 5900HS
Ooooh
i think i got the 2021 model actually, but they're basically the same
Glad to hear it. I've only ever had HP pretty basic laptops
I switched my 8gb with 32gb ram and slipped a 1TB Samsung 980 pro storage in before I ever turned it on! So 40gb ram
1.5 tb is not going to be enough though. Might put the max in it. Can't remember if it can run 2tb in each M.2 slot
woah
me too
i also have 40GB
I've got the 2TB drive tho
Nice. Everyone told me not to do it alone cuz I've never done it but it literally took less than 20min without YouTube videos or anything lol
I got recommended to switch my new drive with the factory 500gb but I didn't want to have issues as it obv doesn't have windows installed on it being new
Btw how's your battery life?
let's take this to #off-topic
Sorry
issaight
what we thinkin about the brick
is it gonna be like an environmental weapon?
like you can place em and use em for cover or somethin?
i think its gonna be a brick
i am the head developer, this is true /j
I heard atomic bomb in my class and immediately thought of dog
do you think robert oppenheimer was a dog main
Yes
just got all achievements!
LETS GOOO!!!
Hey I got a question if I return after the snake boss will I move on to the next difficulty even if I don’t kill the snow boss
It didn’t count towards the next difficulty 😭
you have to exit through the portal to the inn
if you go to stage 4 and die it's a fail
did you go to the snow area and quit?
anyone here know if using something like wemod would get me in trouble? I would only use it solo and maybe with friends but i am curious about using it to see what the strongest a character can get without limits of gold. I would assume no repercussions because this isnt a pvp or competitive game in that sense but i wanted to make sure i wouldnt lose my account or anything
Modding is not allowed to be discussed here, so if you're going to cheat, do it without talking about it or just don't do it at all.
thats what i was looking for thank you
But it doesn't feel like a win!
I wish it wasn't even possible tbh. Idc that most ppl I know stop before hyperborean jokul but me, I gotsta do it all or I don't feel right about it!
Man I swear I don't remember it taking so long to upgrade these talents
when I was a mobile dweeb

I mean i always go jokul, but if youre just tryna get a run done or go up a level in difficulty i get quitting before
I've done it once but i just feel like I cheated or took the easy way. Really jokul levels it out for me cuz after learning good ascension's everything else is easy
Depends on the question.
It's about the spring dlc, thats all :]
Here's fine.
Alright! So, my friend and I were simply wondering if it was still being worked on. We don't follow any of the social medias, and I just joined to inquire about it after finding the discord. We're excited about it and just want to know if it wasn't cancelled or anything lol
It still pops up in the upcoming events, at least it did last time we played together
soo
#game-announcements message
Oh! tysm!
lol that baby chicken i wonder what does it do.
whats a good gun to use for a turtle weapon build
like with Libra warrior
Im trying argus abd it's working well but idk ab hell
When does this chicken become reality
When the future becomes a reality.
i just use shotguns and swords
shotguns are just good at close range and don’t need as much precision
and swords have the fastest base movement speed (at least with talents)
I like this answer, very uninformative, but I like it
Haven't tried yet since switching to PC but I know on mobile waiting for random squad mates is pointless. Can you actually catch a squad on steam?
Coolio, thx. Gotta work on this stupid talent thing but that's going to be sweet not having to bug ppl to play!
You can also put LFGs in #1064937664870101033 and join VCS if there are room
If I wanna play I just join whatever voice chat people are in and wait till they're done or if they wanna reset for me
Moving to steam is so worth it in the long run
Yeah I did that for mobile. Well, never joined a VC before. For mobile side there's a handful of active ppl but timezones is too much of a factor. I had one steady guy to play with.
Absolutely! It's awkward for me to not have ads. Not that it's needed I'm just used to using ads on everything. But it's easier having LT be weapon special.
There are also a lot of differences between the 2 when it comes to weapons. It seems like some weapons are quite a bit more powerful on PC. Just gotta unlock Lei Lou, Tao and turtle. Don't use turtle but he deserves a try on PC anyway.
Pogging so hard
AWOOOOGA TAKE MY MONEY
WTF
What a cute design 
The tweet says they're here so does that mean it's released?
IT Is already on live?
I don't see any update logs
Oh they're dlc?
ye
I want new cute cool characters 😭
maybe we can use the dlc1 character reveal and release timespan to estimate the release date? 🤔
it could be much sooner than you think
but it could also be v far away
roadmaps and release times havent really ever had a pattern
Are we finally going to see another armoured character 
looks like a new weapon in hand
She's a redpanda yea
Great minds think alike
At he same time
I'm gonna say that's an SMG
This is all i can think about when i read the caption
Neat character. But when are corrosive balls on crit going to get buffed
💅
new character looks so cool
we've now got the left half
any idea what the pattern is with patches being released?
and the 4 weapons at the bottom
there doesnt seem to be one
ah
they used to a release a patch every 2 weeks in early access
after that, general timeframe outlined by the roadmap
Huh the second one seems to be a bird
almost definitely
How long after teasing fox and monkey did they release the last dlc
about 2 weeks
Another birb 👀
Superior animal category. I'd shit bricks if it's an owl. Owls are based.
W h a t
2 weeks omfg
#twitter-feed message
the first teaser
so it was actually about 3-4 weeks
#twitter-feed message
came out 30 days later
Such a long time
😦
#twitter-feed message
this tho, which is the actual character/sillhouette teaser
was 2 weeks before release
the first teaser of the DLC in general was 3-4 weeks
what are the theories on the 4 objects they posted a few days ago?
They've been teasing the new clown character for over a year via their patch notes 🤔
Wonder when that'll release.
Bullets of the new weapons
And abilities
i thought these 2 were part of the face
Ah yes love shooting bricks
seems like a vest and a beak
instead of a really long chin
im thinking it could be a raven
Maybe it's holding a rare Pokemon card.
Was gonna say I wonder if either character will be decay focused since we don't really have a Decay character but I guess
sorta counts?
I wouldn't call Prince as
as Lei Luo and Li are
and
respectively tho. It's just that smoke grenades are really good.
Based.
that character would be the 'magician' yes?
maybe
id imagine the mech creator is the 'artisan'
wonder what the talisman looking thing is
also
something y'all may remember
look at the bottom right of the image
almost undeniably the same character
I can't wait!
the only correct answer
Anyone wanna play some Gunfire?
#1064937664870101033
new character not out yet? was that just a reveal?
ye
very cool, looking forward to her release
probably has some sort of playing cards within his kit
would make sense being the 'magician'
and that picture
more than likely an owl too, yes?
I think red cardinal(Northern cardinal) or ... rooster
Owl hype
yknow how magicians have feather in their hats sometimes?
maybe that one long feather at the top is like that
Could be like a great horned owl
Owl lobby is strong 🙂
Ngl I went to website to dbl check for red panda just bcuz I'm impatient. Lmao
Wait when is artisan and the other dude coming to the game though
red panda.
no date announced yet
@bronze fable
This might give some of yall a laugh, I've spent the last 5 or so hours trying to get the Crab Buffet achivement... turns out I got it 2.5 hours ago
You just wanted to teach those crabs a lesson.
I don't just have a buffet, I've become a crab fest
I only got 8 more achievements left to get before I 100% the game, 7 if you exclude the achievement for getting every other achievement
inb4 more achievements are added.
inb4?
inb4 = In Before
Meaning they say they think something will happen (sometimes as a joke) before it happens.
ahh
For example, if I think it's going to rain (jokingly or not) I'd say "inb4 rain comes."
thanks for explaining, my brain is still fried from all the crabs I've killed
I think the crabs got fried worse.
The crabs would be complaining too, but... you know
I so want the new character to do the classic red panda scare pose to summon the mech
Instructions unclear. They T-Pose instead.
Nah, the scare pose has them sticking their paws up in the air to make them appear larger to frighten off others.
The T-Pose is for asserting dominance.
BIRD 2
so gaige and twisted fate for gunfire?
how we feeling everyone
looks like it'll be soon
good stuff
Almost time to come back to GFR 
it was always a Owl
Owl supremacy
My read is the DLC drops by the end of this week, or by the end of next week.
need the dlc so damn bad
very possible tbh
considering how the last one went
I entirely forget the Xbox even has this game let alone it being on a version from over a year ago.
it'll be 2 years ago in just 5-6 months
The upside of that is old combustion my beloved. And some other things I preferred before their buffs/changes.
but they're missing like 4 characters, a bunch of weapons, modes, modifiers, blessings, etc.
not to mention, the game is definitely not an extremely buggy hard to play mess
So glad I was smart and went steam instead of game pass since I have free game pass ultimate that could've been $20 I could've used for to if I'd have bought it in game pass!
In all aspects I think Steam is the correct choice if you're able to play it. But it's understandable some only have access to Gamepass/Mobile.
A bit unfortunate the updates are staggered/different across platforms. I know how that feels in a way back when Monster Hunter World was lagging behind on PC.
How’s the Controller support on steam?
pretty good
Pole monarch won't spawn his "ghosts" while R8 solo lone wolf and only when playing with other people?
Yea i just did an R8 round with 3 players count lone wolf and he didn't spawned his additional immortal duplicates
It's great just obv slower aim than normal mobile or pc
Just like elite assassin
I actually like the controller support on steam more than on mobile but that could be device specific. Other than using ps4 on windows takes windows DS4 program. Xbox elite is way to go from what I hear though I use power a fusion pro 2 Xbox controller with removable paddles.
I haven't tried to setup the paddles in steam yet. Was using it in game pass first and I hate game pass. It's trash imo. Sitting with ultimate and bout to remove it. Steam is way better!
well elite assasin actualy explicitly sais it
and it states the clear difference between elite and boss
I thought lone wolf increased difficulty to level of players you wanted the difficulty of?
That's confusing in a way cause it sounds like that means only bosses and elites up to that point but nothing after that point
like the scroll clearly sais only reduced against elites
What version is this, gamepass?
the one this chat is for
Lol
which isnt very useful considering it just people talking about of their ass
Looks like mobile to me but I'm new to steam so haven't seen all menus in game
thats the log screen....
Was thinking that the whole time. I've got a milli ss in my phones that look just like that
thats how it looks in the player match history
Lemme have a look
If so I must be confused cuz when I go to my history to see my damage my screen look totally dif
Are you on the legit version or the bootleg DL
im on the steam version which is the one this chat is for idk what you guys problem is
Don't have one and we know what chat we're in. I'm a long time mobile player and newer steam player
Just saying that looks 100% like mobile
I don't have them at screen in my history section
But I know some ppl dl bootleg version on PC that has all heroes unlocked so was just asking
Not sure why you getting all butthurt
hmm, i swear the scroll also says bosses in game but it might just be elite assasin messing up my memory
Is the enhanced version the one that says it?
I swore it did to but I came across it the other day and was confused
enhanced elite assasin?
No my bad lol
enhanced cowardly bully? 😭
they should make a 10% chance for a cursed scroll to become enhanced
That's what I meant but nvm
would be fun
Afaik it only applies to elite enemies. Never outright tested it, but it should be easy enough to fact check. Personally I’ve never noticed a significant DPS loss due to this scroll, as I run into it fairly often in speedruns where a 30% multi dps loss to bosses* would be very noticeable.
I'm messing up. Too many different convos
That’s not literally true, the game has some level of distinction
On elite assassin you do get it for every boss after that not just up to the point of picking it up correct?
I'd hope otherwise they're messing with us with the wording
Miasma scales differently for bosses than elites, for example
oh really damn
Bosses also cant be manipulated
but elites can?
Actually no elites cant as well lol
I thought they could but i misremembered
oh mb i read wrong
Regardless its not a good assumption to say bosses are elites because there are instances where they are not treated identically
altanna probably knows
eg miasma
yea i agree honestly
plus scrolls
elite and boss are two different categories
That answers my above question
I new it didn't seem right. I always get the normal version at start of run smh
Already tested it. Cowardly Bully only applies to elites. It's not a mistranslation.
Can you make the wiki page clarify this
Since its a fairly common misconception(evidence seen above)
Unlucky
But I think I can clarify it slightly more, so people don't have to extrapolate based on data that's not there...
I mean you could just be explicit and say “this does not include bosses”
Or you could be vague and you'll always know you're needed here!
altanna is the matpat we always needed
Altanna!
🤔
Does anyone know if damage of each weapon is supposed to work exactly the same across all platforms? I swear it seems like a few weapons have more efficient killing power on steam vs mobile
Mobile has changes to some weapons because of the nature of clicking or doing stuff at the right time being a pain.
Like dual fang fur instance. Dual fang on mobile? Blows imo but I was forced to pick it up on my first PC run and it seemed much better.
Still having a hard time with not trying to use ads even though it's not needed. Just habit from mobile
I'm like a week in lol
could be translation stuff
Yes if that's a playing card
He pulls out a deck, tells enemies to pick one, and if you guess which one they picked correctly, they are instantly killed with 10 times the copper dropped.
But it's more like a tarot
if they aren't pulling 20ft of cloth out of their mouth i don't want to play them
or sawing people in half after trapping them in a coffin would be ok too
What about the ability to foretell enemies' fate
"And now, my lovely assistant Crossbowman will lie down in this chest."
Crossbowman enters the chest
"Now watch as I saw them in half!"
pulls out Wheel Saw
pulls out a Tarot card
"Death."
pulls out a Tarot card
"Death."
pulls out a Tarot card
"The Lovers."
pulls out a Tarot card
"Death."
pulls out another card with Li on his side
"You will burn in hell. "
Don't understand why they name the red panda "Nona" but still stick to pinyin "Zi Xiao" for the owl
I think the joke is that he's gonna magically make the game balance worse
As if there were any of it left to begin with
According to the teaser, he can somehow call down meteors from the sky just like Li does
which teaser has that?
"Time to reveal the CARD! Introducing your magician 「Zi Xiao」. Let's enjoy the meteor shower!"
Probably a scuffed translation to be honest.
And if it is correct, either Li or himself will be swept aside.
Post from Duoyi's official forum on Gunfire
The text says "... to cause numerous stars fall from the sky in no time... "
Am I the only one who plays a character because cute design 💀
That's the sole reason most people play Bunny.
Some guy in the game reviews posted “don’t look in community artwork” and I’ve never laughed so much
So far the owl doesn’t seem so exciting
Looking forward to 
I guess you're gonna have to take a gamble with Owl to see what he can do.
Could be good, could be bad. Maybe both at the same time like another certain Birb.
I like when games give each character a unique mechanic that separates them from everyone else
birb has an unique mechanic alright.
what's the best weapon to build painkiller crown prince with?
and then just go for like elemental rage, acidominance, etc?
Pyrodom IIi for combustion damage, Acidom IIi if you want to run a crit based build/want to be lazy about tossing nades. Electrodom III only if you're using a shock weapon.
Energy Blade can be quite good with Painkiller for big combustion procs. Great for Icy Spear recalls, Fire Tower, or even an elemental Tiger Cannon.
1 More achievement until I get every single one!
I'm never going to complete the gunfire reborn achievements because I have 0 plays In bird, turtle and dog
And I intend to keep it that way
2/3 of those are my top 3 to play 💀
Dog I get he's not for everyone but Bird is fun you leave Bird alone
Dog and turtle are a lot of fun, birb is meh
Just started on Steam with this game and I'm level 36? Anyone have any pointers for me?
focus on dodging
yes damage is important
but knowing how to dodge will increase your survivability incredibly
I can make it all the way way to the end alone to the boss without taking damage. I can beat the boss. I got to the water one yesterday
Thank you for being another bird enjoyer, I understand he’s not the best but his play style is fun for me
He's more popular that the criticisms would suggest. No character is bad. 
owl and red panda for the heroes is neat
agreed
He's more popular than expected because he's fun to play, not because he's good.
The moment you step into a point of the game where you need to kill things in a reasonable timeframe, like multiplayer, he gets flung out the window.
I see someone is missing Nova Shockwave and Hail of Bullets changes
You'd think that would make a difference, but then you remember Birb still doesn't have an OP hero blessing.
So he's still not good.
Better? Yes, but not good.
He's actually the best because I said so. Flawless argument. 
Li R8 WR - 11:11. Bird R8 WR - 11:34. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Li is not a strong speedrunner in all fairness
but she is so easily powerful
and scales very well in multiplayer
Cat and Turtle 12+
yeah
none of them have a great kit for speedrunning
speedrunning is a whole different ballpark than the actual game espeically MP
and we have 3-4 "good op characters" according to this logic
Fox, Cat and Turtle are not strong speedrunners.
yea, tell me 🙂
so calling them op is not exactly good logic just coz they can speedrun
Fox's skills take time to use, Cat moves slowly AND his skills take time to use, and Turtle needs to get close to everything despite his speed.
I'm running and casually playing bird since release, and I can't tell that he is weak - rng dependent? yes
And according to what you posted, Birb still does worse than Fox!
birb is weak because he is so rng dependent unless you get a near perfect run with him you're gonna be overshadowed by basically any other character
he can be pretty damn strong a good leap and cleave build can work wonders, but its so hard to get one
where as li
basically every run you're doing well
I was talking about difference between OP and not OP, and about "time to kill" some late game staff
This chat has run in circles around what characters are "bad"/"good" and it usually ends up a whole ass debate about
which ultimately changes nothing. Ultimately some characters are so good at scaling it's arbitrary power because the game doesn't have the difficulty to justify such wild damage. Every character can meet the damage requirements to solo R8 or pull their weight in multiplayer. The difference between "OP" characters and less OP characters is pretty minimal. A tier list for this game would have every character in at least A tier imo.
The difference at this point is how easy it is to become OP.
For half the heroes, it is very easy.
The other half, including Birb, not so much.
I think everyone here is correct in their own way. I wouldn't call bird "not good" or "bad," but I understand why people would imply such. He typically takes the most work to reach the OP damage and doesn't have things in his kit other characters have. But he's still fine.
where is the other characters when you leap, kill everything, repeat with that perfect build?
He's a balanced character in a sea of broken characters
Other characters kill everything immediately with a non-perfect build.
Yes, that's correct
what do you mean?
here we go
im confused by the wording
Hi confused by the wording
Also, every character can use spores, the balance of this game is fucked so do what you want :p
Bunny uses them the best though.
you will be more confused with gameplay. coz you must look at the minimap and press E non stop
Broke: Leap Build
Woke: Gun Fighter/Fierce Wings sniper build
then you understand that with the right(lucky) build, team simply will not catch up with you
All it takes is insane rng to make it work 😎
or just cleave build
Everyone wave to jon we love to see him here
Hail of bullets go brrrr
I mean yes. but that is what i was saying originally, however you pair that with a perfect lei lou build and he's gonna melt things faster. any perfect build is basically going to instakill everything, unless your 4 player R8
that's true, lei is broken in this case, i admit
Also atomic dog
remove atomic
this
Birb can get lucky and become OP where no one can stop him.
Most other heroes can get lucky OR pick a guaranteed certain blessing at the start of the run where no one can stop them.
if you throw the bomb in the area before you enter it causes radiation to kill the boss
I feel like "delete the room but use all secondaries" is more balanced than what atomic bomb actually is tbh
i would love it
use all secondaries but increase damage and area
who is that perfect characters? would like to play on him
it would make it more "atomic"
Turtle is pretty close to perfect tbh lmao
Li and Lei Lou both have 3 incredibly powerful blessings
Dog with Atomic Bomb too, as talked about above.
imo they're all broken except for bird
Yeah come to think of it
And bird is still really good, but a bit less consistent
even bird is pretty strong tho u just gotta know how to build it
And get lucky.
eh
not rly
ive been doing no reset bird runs all day and i havent run into any problems
birb has 2 good blessings
but both require good scroll and goblet luck
most characters can surivive on luck of just 1 thing or a decent weapon
oh ye he def needs more to work but not an insane amount
He not trash
That being momentum and double tap? I'm not a cleave believer tbh lol
bladed cleave op
he just not as easy to get powerful
Cleave is amazing if you get the stacks up
i had a perfect cleave run before, all 3 goblets to improve stacks, enhanced double exhil and the spiritual blessing that doubles secondary
was very fun
Cleave needs even more luck than other bird builds tho
yes it does
It's pretty risky to invest in
again though i think we've covered that birb is super rng dependant
start endless assault + overconsumption and ur set as long as u get easy kill and 1 fierce wings
works for r8
near 100% consistent
Oppressor used to be better before they patched it
Idk I feel like taking an extra fixed blessing with lone wolf is cheating 😅
That wasn't always a thing, I've been trying to get more used to toggling it off
I mostly play MP so lone wolf isnt really a thing i deal with
even just endless is pretty strong on its own
but i'll usually take gambler from it so i can actually get the build i want rather than artificially inflating it
Yeah I read the oppressor build overview on the wiki and I can't imagine committing to something that only works with one scroll XD
it also doesnt work as well anymore
Oh really?
they set a damage cap on attacks or something idk
but you used to be able to hit like 10k hp super easy
now it struggles to get past 2
it was amazing paired with sanguine and the health to skill damage scroll (always forget the name)
enduring caster
Enduring caster?
I've always wanted to have a flesh and bone + oppressor run just to try it
But I've never made it work
Ig you just have to commit a ton of essence into resetting for early health scrolls
Idk man combustion cat seems pretty good
Swing once and explode everything
Why are Bird Blessings not as OP though?
anyone tryna duo or do some squads im just tryna run some gunfire tbh
They're either additive, low damage bonus, situational that requires you to go out of your way to get the bonus, or a combination.
Compare something like Unstoppable Momentum to Thunder & Glory.
UM has +1000% base DMG (additive with Last Breath, so it gets less powerful with that ascension), 50% chance to reset the cooldown (situationally effective because RNG) and completely resets if you fail to hit an enemy (1 mistake costs you everything).
T&G has +1200% total DMG (always effective at full power and higher bonus), -50% cooldown (never situational) and only resets when you stop finding targets to strike with thunderbolts for 10 seconds (plenty of time for mistakes, and doesn't even cost you the cooldown).
I'm so close, just need one more daily run and to get lucky enough for crabs
also did all the character frames but li's in r8, mysterious jokul so theres that too I guess
crabs is easy, just play on low difficulty and alt f4 if you dont get the "all enemies spawn crab on death"
T&G: And a whole 1,5 skills to make Fatal Current AOE(kind of).
Yeap, looks fair to me
T&G is so powerful that all you need to do...
Is get one of those ascensions once. Everything else beyond that is a bonus.
UM still needs Last Breath any time your damage resets and cooldown doesn't reset, still needs Gigantic Explosion any time UM or Last Breath fail to reset cooldowns, still needs All or Nothing to compensate for the additive nature with Last Breath, and still needs Regen Hit so you don't kill yourself with All or Nothing.
thanks for the advice, I just got it now, I didn't even realise you could save scum like that
just need to wait for tomorrow to get my last daily run win then I'll have 100%
Soon it won't be 100% anymore.
It's on steam page now just can't buy until 31st
yeah the new characters look really cool
🫣
steam comments sure are something alright
Yeah, that Warnoise fella doesn't know how to just chill and have fun.
true!!!
Yo I'll have that cyborg compact today or tomorrow at the latest. Faster than I expected. Finally try gunfire with mouse instead of controller!
Btw your profile background is awesome. I thought you could only have animated pfp which I normally do have but got tired of changing every few days
thanks
You ever get into steam controller settings?
nope
currently trying to do a 0 scroll r8 (4 player scaling lone wolf) run with ao bai, furthest attempt so far
0 scrolls
Lone wolf double bless
Welp that sounds like plenty options for ez clears
I assume you can't take atomic and endless otherwise that challenge is easy with ao bai.
Mortars go brr
yeah, if I took atomic it'd be too easy haha
just having fun with one dog army and stuff
Giving me flashbacks
Damn that's a lot of polys, I'm sure my n64 can render it
lol
505's influence
Will both dlc be on sale when the new releases or only the new one?
i don't think they've said anything about that
He is quite a sophisticated boy
Best character aesthetically hands down. Again, owl supremacy.
Although Crown Prince is just peak design too gotta say.
l-
Agreed
I love birds especially Owls and so the Owl is perfect
how much will DLC cost on launch
I believe they did that upon the the first DLC release, too.
According to my Steam account history, the first DLC was $5.59 USD after a $1.40 discount (-20% off) and a tax of $0.34. So $5.93.
Doesn't mean it'll be the same this time around, but I'm guessing it'll be similar.
Which honestly was a great price given the content it came with.
ok thanks
didnt think about checking my steam history
I typed that all out because I know, judging by last time, about 50 million people and their mothers will ask that exact question so now we have text to reference to 
yeah thats just how it is with new releases
Ultimately a good thing--means people are interested
yeah true
DL windows DS4 for PS4 controller but I'm used to gyro for when you're super close to aim in ads gyro is nice to work out the rest. Obv PC doesn't have this option. Checking the ps4 box in steam controller settings to tell it to set up for PS4 messes up every control and can't play. Unless ds4 AND steam settings clash. Oh well
Just grabbed cyborg off porch anyhow! Upgrading to 3tb storage instead of 1.5tb and then I'll try setting that bad boy up
ds4windows->gyro-"joystick mouse"(or something like that). I'm too lazy to get out of bed, but as far as I remember, it worked in GFR.
what does an ability evoloving mean
It gets better.
no like when does an ability evolve
in the fox's ascension it says its primary gets 50% stronger when it evolves
Consider reading the description of what it affects.
😭 💀
Oh sweet thx I remember seeing that. You left steam controller settings alone then right?
I'm finally done (until dlc drops)
worst achievement to get imo was getting crown prince frame in r8 lone wolf which was kinda just torture
after 400 hours, i just need die to 2 traps in one game, i cant bring myself to do it lmao
im stuggeling to get my last achieve, looking for tips or suggestions. I need to run Nitemare in under 30
check pins in #speedrun-discussion
np
Maybe just spore rainbow/radiogaunt
last I checked it still deletes mobs before you really get to see them
Unsure about rainbow post "fix" vs radio gaunt, but given how broken spore is, it probably works anyway
Yes, disable Steam controller configs and run Ds4Windows. Both versions of controllers works, so you can use native button icons in GFR - DS and the peasant one.
quick question, are Injecotrs still bugged and use all 1*2 jades?
Ty so much! It never crossed my mind that I'd downloaded DS4 before steam so that checking the PS4 box under steam controller settings was why my controller completely went haywire and couldn't be used! I'll do this in a bit! Be awesome to have gyro again
Just checked Steam alone and Gyro aim works too. You should chose Gyro as a Joystick to make it work. Unfortunately we can't use "mouse" coz GFR switch between input methods and does not use both at the same time, like Wolfenstein.
I'm die hard controller dan. But trying to get into mouse kb. However my kb on my laptop is flush and slick. So too hard to learn kb. Just bought Azeron Cyborg compact but haven't set it up yet
I enjoy controller on games like gunfure
With Gyro AIM - yes. With something like xbox controller - it's a torture.
The difference between aiming with a mouse and a controller is worlds apart. Cross play is pretty unfair...
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You aren't lying on that. Xbox controller so choppy for aim. Just jumps past head, then jumps past again, I get frustrated and spray & pray
average SA moment
Hey guys. I've been playing gunfire a long time and I've always had an issue where my game freezes for a second, most often when I kill a final enemy that drops a cluster reward, you know the gem thing that breaks and drops essence and scrolls sometimes. My computer is very strong and I play on max settings. I have even lowered some but the issue persists. Has anyone else had/fixed this issue? Thank you!
try DXVK?
what is that?
A Vulkan-based translation layer for Direct3D 9/10/11. https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk
How does Molten Meteor interact with fish or bear paw and multi-pellet weapons? It's always -1 stack per shot no matter what yeah?
Yes.
Gotcha
I focused meteor sustain in tombs so now I get to do a memey molten meteor build lol
My scroll luck is insane
Free R8LW4 win
this is a screenshot of the best luck i've ever had. this screenshot was taken after beating lu wu
i never do because i forget about it
Yea it's really good in theory but it's not my thing
Especially because eliminating the need to reload or swap weapons is a pretty common goal in runs lmao
i think i cheesed something once when i had the enhanced version but it wasn't satisfying to win like that
It's a great panic button.
Problem is, by the time you realize you're panicking in Reincarnation, you're probably already dead.
Also, permanent invincibility abuse isn't everyone's cup of tea.
asdf;lkjh just one shot golem for the first time
Idk it looks reasonably lucky
i hate the elite spearman so much, whats your guys strat when fighting him?
Kill it
Corrosion weapons, high movement speed or vault entrance cheesing.
vault entrance cheesing?
I mean, all it does is path to you so.. yeah, saving dash and using the 2 bits of obstacles you have + what altanna said
actually smart yeah fuck it ill use that
use WASD and shoot
yeah until his goons pull up when your backing off lmao
Instructions unclear, ran out of ammo shooting respawning adds
use first gun + WASD + shoot
Classic unlucky r8 coop lobby moment for spearman and stone room
Implying not using busted bless/char before starting, obviously
thats exactly what happened to me
Foundry + dodging everything for some time does it
You can clear adds until you get your preferred ones and let one live so more won't respawn
why no steam and xbox crossplay 😦 i want to play with friends
different servers
and more importantly
the xbox version is almost 2 years behind steam
Another day, another spore run
I guess that rainbow "fix" didn't hit very hard
I know tao has stacking speed of both types and extra utility toward it, but it seems Li has ways more tools to abuse injectors- getting even worse with fire converted ones
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it did
but only early on
Pretty sure yes; "hit
<>"shot".
Literally will come back to gunfire so that I can play an owl.
finally gunfire without the guns and or firing
And Brick is Brick
depends if total% or not
and even then, things are so utterly broken beyond repair there's worse
what?
look like you were planing for that
I just hope that she's not as one dimensional as Gaige :p
gaige isn't 1 dimension...
and she had 2 fun builds...
didn't you see her as a wedding planner?
idk if I'd say 2 fun builds in vanilla
at least in UVHM and beyond
and especially with DT's poor scaling and funky AI
and shit like his augments just not working or being useless
like him trying to use Buck Up on a player in FFYL
still manages to have more build variety than Aurelia though 
anyone think they know what it means in the new dlc about the owl's "Astrological Aspects" colors?
Given what his primary skill looks like, I'd imagine it's causing stars to fall.
interesting
They’ve said that something about his kit is related to the quality of occult scrolls you have
Only carry legendary scrolls and become a god. Got it.




