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[final ore]

i have an even better idea

every 50 stages remove one level of a random talent

[thorny parcel]

I said x3 because that's the lucky shot level. x4 damage.

[final ore]

oh yeah fair

[final ore]

#1200756999101632552 well i just did something

another one in the sea of dead suggestion corpses 🔥

[candid cobalt]

Angelic aura can get the blue inscription that adds 0.2 projecties and resets on reload right?

[fickle cipher]

yep

just needs 10 kills for full effect

[candid cobalt]

hahaha yeah i've been rolling an gelic aura i got the rof tingy, but o.2 proj ain't showing up huhu

[fickle cipher]

idk if inscriptions have rng slant but it feels that way

rof one is easy to get but not 0.2 😭

[candid cobalt]

oh boy it does feel that way. but for some reason it's really easy for me to get it it on a dual fang

[candid cobalt]

is there a link to the possible inscriptions on a specific weapon? The wiki has a list of inscriptions but it dont relly show the specific weapons it applies to except the exclusive ones.

[thorny parcel]

If there is one, someone's been gathering up a lot of data and not putting it anywhere else.

[final ore]

jesus

endless is brutal

didnt manage to get wild hunts up by stage 30

and ran out of time bc of ship

also lost like 2 minutes bc of a stalker

lmao

[ornate knot]

maxed it out finally

[candid cobalt]

noice

[marsh flame]

im a little confused, what does it mean by excess dmg and what is overcharge thunder? im assuming excess damage is the leftover dmg from the hit that killed the enemy but im not sure, would it be worse with weapons with low dmg and high rate of fire?

[thorny parcel]

Excess DMG is damage you dealt beyond an enemy's HP. It would be worse with weaker weapons that hit many times.

Overcharged Thunder is a thing Thunder Step gives you. Read its description. This is after all a bonus for Thunder Step.

[marsh flame]

ah thanks

[fickle cipher]

idk how ppl break out of the 90%+ DR stage with thunder storm

[final ore]

ill try that

[quaint valve]

What's the difference between Endless Journey and Boundless Dream?

[final ore]

endless has a brutal timer

boundless doesnt

boundless also doesnt have scroll and ascneison cap

[quaint valve]

Gotcha, thanks

[ornate knot]

finally got a good lightning governor run going. i have everybody's character specific talents unlocked now too in addition to the shared tree. i guess it's win at least once with everybody, next.

then idk!

i don't feel any particularly strong desire to push high reincarnation levels

[candid cobalt]

do it with friends it's a lot more fun.

It'll also kinda force u to try and figure out how to make stronger builds too.

[ornate knot]

"play nona" :V

i bet the turtle would be good for that too i ain't played him much myself but my partner played him a few times and she seemed to really be enjoying him

[final ore]

try cat

[ornate knot]

i have played cat a bit yeah.

love to throw a BOM!

[final ore]

he does some incredibly stupid shit

its insane

also painkiller

[ornate knot]

...i've definitely used painkiller before but i dont remember what it does offhand

[final ore]

if you inflict one elemental effect, it inflicts all

also elemental effects on you give benefits instead

[ornate knot]

OH YEAH THAT ONE

yeah i fucking love that one it's nuts

i've used it on both crown prince and li

i really love playing li its so fun to just throw huge hadoukens and melt everything

[final ore]

li is stupidly funny i agree

[final ore]

"featuring Ryu from Street Fighter"

[ornate knot]

yeah.

[snow abyss]

Just wanted to share the most nasty build I've seen

My friend had the idea of using the bird with a cleave-focused build and the armor of thorns with the ascencion that auto-spams the secondary ability

The whole screen dies as he walks and cleave still gets more base dmg

Basically a walking simulator. Stack that with double edge, recycle the scrolls you find and use richs privileges or extravagant comsumption and you literally never have to bother stopping walking for anything

[winged vine]

Oh wow that sounds amazing

[winged vine]

I did a similar thing with painkiller cat. Entire rooms just melted the second I walked in. Shiznet was crazy

[vague obsidian]

my first endless. still lookin good.

[winged vine]

Nice

[proven sage]

macro bunny

[atomic junco]

just had an effective split turn into a lucky roulette

that took 60,000 gold from me

:(

[final ore]

L never get effective split

[atomic junco]

still a good run tho

https://i.imgur.com/NUimkhm.png

51 billion damage

[royal anchor]

rookie numbers

[atomic junco]

i mean yes if i tried to break the game instead of just having fun playing it anyone could easily do way more

but i enjoy having fun in my video games :)

[wind shale]

the bird guy is confusing me a bit

althou

im starting to get it

his ult just feels extremely weak

[wind shale]

wayo

chicken guy is a beast

[wind shale]

i retract my statement owlman is epic af

are only non-legendaries using that calculation method?

[languid finch]

Is this a Hall of Fame worthy roll

[final ore]

yaaaawn

not even close

[languid finch]

😂

[final ore]

youre missing one critically important inscription

also Multiple enhancement

[cloud python]

funny turtle man

stats if anyone is interested

the lightening dash is so dumb

[ornate knot]

did a turtle run this morning, forgot to turn on lone wolf for free overconsumption, didn't notice until after the run

turtle strong

[royal anchor]

Everything strong

[thorny parcel]

Except Birb unless you pick his bandaid.

[frank nebula]

I wanna ask

[frank nebula]

What hero can solo R9 ?

[thorny parcel]

All of them.

[frank nebula]

I just try lei luo and get 8 fail

[thorny parcel]

Then consider what you're doing wrong and how to fix that.

[frank nebula]

I build sniper

[thorny parcel]

Ok.

[frank nebula]

I build like what i did in R8 all in lucky shoot and crit dmg and i can solo R8 normal

And with the same build i can't even past map 2 in R9

[final ore]

lei luo has the highest base speed

just dodge bro

[frank nebula]

Bruh

[fickle cipher]

dio-sama did you get the acension that chain lightning on a crit hit

[frank nebula]

No

What happen with that

[fickle cipher]

if you just want to clear R9 solo take counterviolence + lightning messenger at start, best wep to start with is anything that autoaim

take this because its funny

[frank nebula]

Bruh i just wanna do sniper

[final ore]

do they even exist on mobile

[fickle cipher]

oh wait bros on mobile

mb

im not sure

[frank nebula]

Yes it have

Dies

[final ore]

L

[frank nebula]

Try every build i use to solo R8 and it useless in R9

[final ore]

L

[thorny parcel]

If every build you do fails, consider that it might not be the builds that are failing.

[frank nebula]

[final ore]

brutal

altanna you did NOT have to commit murder

[fickle cipher]

Is mobile harder to aim and move in

Felt that way when I tried mobile gunfire for like 5 mins

[vague obsidian]

Of course

Unless you play some FPS mobile game before

[frank nebula]

I have good aim in mobile

Play a lot fps before anyway

[wind shale]

with what stat does iron wing melee stack, skill damage?

[vague obsidian]

Yes

[proud flint]

Does anyone know how to play lan on pc?

[vague obsidian]

lan ?

no

use coop instead

[harsh wagon]

finally got the back to back achievement

and all it took was teaming up with some buddies lul

and that marks 100% again

[atomic junco]

https://i.imgur.com/zmM1B3E.jpeg

whyyyyy

why can this happennnn

[vague obsidian]

[void birch]

quick question: does flesh and blood count as a broken shield for airbag?

[gusty mountain]

Can't break something that's not there.

[void birch]

okay thats what I thought. I wasnt sure if it was set to broken or just max but 0/0 thanks

[void birch]

bro why does the first remnant have a cost to reroll when you can just quit out and re roll for free?

[gusty mountain]

Save time

sink essence

[void birch]

i mean yeah i guess?

naw

lol

[gusty mountain]

can't do that in multiplayer

[void birch]

ohhh good point. ive only played multi player like once?

i just want dog with battle scarred lol

[proud fable]

This is the first and last time this sentence will ever be said

[void birch]

Finally got to tier 8 wirh this build. I like it.

[proven sage]

na, it puts you at 65% DR immediately

[proud fable]

The best offense is offense

[proven sage]

i tried it with ODA before and getting 85% DR instantly is fun

[proud fable]

ODA?

Oh

one dog army

I'm sorry 😭

I didn't forget

I loved ODA

[proven sage]

its gone now

[proud fable]

I know 😭

o7

[fickle cipher]

dont remind me bros....

[proud fable]

???

Altanna dont explain ODA

[thorny parcel]

What, don't you like having Atomic Bomb booster?

[proud fable]

Oh shit does it work on AB

I'll give it a shot next time I run AB

(Which is never cuz its boring)

[thorny parcel]

Combat Elite just says it increases explosion damage for every meter of explosion AoE.

Dog's Explosive Grenade is explosion damage.

[proud fable]

tis true

[final ore]

whats wrong with battle scarred

free 50% dr and 5%/s hp regen

[final ore]

o7

[fickle cipher]

offense better i guess

[final ore]

nah

[fickle cipher]

defense is easy just pray you get funny 14% cat

[final ore]

one stray bullet nad youre dead

DR is best defense

[thorny parcel]

Can't get hit if nothing is alive to hit you.

Plus cat scroll exists, negating pretty much anything threatening.

[final ore]

cat scroll

[thorny parcel]

Except penguins.

[fickle cipher]

real

got jumped by 3 of them lately

[final ore]

also theres like

[fickle cipher]

seeing my shield go down for the first time in an hour i felt true fear

[final ore]

yhe spiritual link

ethereal feline

[fickle cipher]

yep the 25% ver

[final ore]

s good

[fickle cipher]

fr

love me some dmg negating cats

[final ore]

top 10 invincibility

[vague obsidian]

Let gooooooooo!

peculiar clucht

[last vine]

does shifting stars asencsion work on skills in ascension fusion

[last vine]

i have been killed by an exploding lantern spirit though...

[final ore]

sure it wasnt a pyro lantern?

[last vine]

I've died to several exploding

[wind shale]

wowie 😼

[final ore]

weak

aint 100

[wind shale]

it ended at 23.4

[vague obsidian]

Owl can make that 100x

[last vine]

how

[thorny parcel]

Lucky Shot Chance doesn't work on skills, period.

[dim blade]

is there a reincarnation modifier that interferes with vault spawns?

or a known bug with vaults rn?

i have 200+ hours in this game and have found 3 scenes with no vault today

[thorny parcel]

Vaults aren't guaranteed, and some stage layouts have no spots for vaults.

[dim blade]

ohh maybe i never noticed before

[proven sage]

note that thats for like 1 frame, but you can hover at 70~

[vague obsidian]

should I take this blessing,
im in endless.

Shadow Broom make Ice Blade deals 10% max HP as true dmg

but it doesnt seem to work like that.

[proven sage]

its helps them kill normal enemies on their own real fast

[vague obsidian]

is it work on boss

[proven sage]

nope

[vague obsidian]

thanks

[prisma pelican]

is ice blade terrible or is it just a skill issue

[final ore]

ice what?

icy spear is good

[gusty mountain]

Tao's blessing

[proud fable]

No, because then you could kill literally everything with one click

[proud fable]

Look at the image 5 messages above

[quaint valve]

Love twin Stormchasers

[winged vine]

Did it work well?

[final ore]

o

[last vine]

you can use those? is it good?

[quaint valve]

It's a lot nicer than you'd think, the melee range on them is a lot farther than I expected and you slow down when hitting enemies so it's actually pretty good.

[void birch]

finally cleared reincarnation 8!

[blissful forum]

its pretty broken lol

found out having strive to survive spirtual link bloddy ammo and thunder screen is a pretty interesting thing

[void birch]

bro this build is giving me like 3500 hp mad regen and I take no damage... lol

[ebon cobalt]

i cant beat reincarnation 8, any tip?

[thorny parcel]

Cat with Painkiller.

[ebon cobalt]

crown prince?

[proud needle]

yes

[ebon cobalt]

build for orb, smoke or weapon?

[thorny parcel]

Weapon.

Though anything to throw more grenades and make them last longer.

[ebon cobalt]

the cooldown on painkiller is it per target or all element proc from player

[thorny parcel]

Per target.

For most intents and purposes, the cooldown doesn't exist.

[proud needle]

Till tomb and late desert you really just need to throw nades

its stupid

Bosses and elites need a bit help but thats about it

[ebon cobalt]

whats better here?

[thorny parcel]

Maestro.

[final ore]

maestro is one of the best blessings ever ngl

[fickle cipher]

multiplicative baby

[void birch]

hey so specifically the veteran scroll, i have the enhanced version that gives +1 to armor/shield, there is no way to "downgrade" it right?

[thorny parcel]

Nope.

But if you get Flesh and Bones, it doesn't matter.

[void birch]

oh because that would add to it based on your armor shield?

nice

[final ore]

why? get enhanced paranormality

and the bonus is doubled

even if you have FnB

[void birch]

i mean im playing doggo so I want hi?

hp*

[final ore]

ye

so enhanced paranormly

it doesnt remove hp and doubles shield

then that shield is converted to hp

also doubles bonus from other bonuses and enhanced veteran

[void birch]

ohh nice

[wise ibex]

Does anyone know where I can find Spirit Concentrate builds for Spiritual Assault?

[final ore]

GUYS

GUYS

GUYS

YOU CAN SKIP ARCANE JADE

nvm

i thought i just did

[proud fable]

you clicked esc?

[final ore]

yes and didnt read the text lmao

[thorny parcel]

That was one of the first things I tried when figuring out if it could be skipped.

[final ore]

there might be a bug you never know

[thorny parcel]

Was about to say.

[proud fable]

Same

[thorny parcel]

Unless there's like some sort of frame-perfect bug where you bring up 2 menus at once and it cancels out everything or something, it's unskippable.

[proud fable]

Worked on interdependent fortunes, why not here?

[final ore]

yea

just like

i want the old scrolls man

[thorny parcel]

Lack of foresight is my guess.

"Everyone is going to love our new seasons, right?"

[final ore]

arcane ascensions are nice and all but like i want my old scrolls and my extra scroll choicr

altanna im amazed at how youre still a mod with how much you talk shit about the game LOL

[thorny parcel]

Pobably because it's not what I say, but how I say it.

[final ore]

true

[thorny parcel]

"Fuck this gaem devs are idiots who don't know how to do things right they should be fired!" would not look as good as "The devs keep making things easier and less balanced."

[final ore]

too real

it is a lot more tame than "i fucking hate this game's balance and i hope the devs' hq burns down in a fire"

[thorny parcel]

Besides, it's not like I'm the only one who shares this opinion.

[final ore]

true

its just the larger crowd is against nerfs

some of which arent nerfs at all, like parkour vaults

i seriously dont get the parkour vault hate

theyre fun, they at least break the flow of "kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill. kill."

[thorny parcel]

The larger crowd will pretty much always be against nerfs in any non-competitive game, though.

It's the fact the devs listen to them way more than they realistically should.

[proud fable]

Also because the devs are hardly active in the server and the admins agree

[proud fable]

Someone once was complaining about someone with a mental condition rage quitting from parkour and to remove them because of it.

[final ore]

id be more pissed about my run ending to an elite spearman

worst fucking elite unironically

"OH YEAH LETS MAKE AN ELITE THATS FAST AS FUCK, ONESHOTS, AND IS IMPOSSIBLE TO MELEE"

[proud fable]

#idea-discussion message

[proud fable]

Ye elite spearman suck

[final ore]

wha

[proud fable]

He was a certified genius

[final ore]

"oh no my lobotomized friend can't beat a parkour level"

[proud fable]

trust

[final ore]

/s, obviously

[proud fable]

Exactlyyyy

[final ore]

parkour vaults are my favourite im ngl

[proud fable]

Same

[final ore]

and besides you can always just

[proud fable]

free two scrolls and fun challenge

[final ore]

take 1 scroll

[proud fable]

or not do them

[final ore]

if you cant do the hard part

[proud fable]

ye

[final ore]

besides

why would you give gunfire reborn to someone with brain damage

the game is either extremely unfair or extremely easy, no in-between

and the extremely unfair part is uh

[thorny parcel]

The extremely unfair part is at the start of the game, which you must go through to get to the extremely easy part.

[final ore]

yea

[proud fable]

Yeah

[final ore]

its fucking

touhou gameplay

[proud fable]

Nightmare 😭

[final ore]

nightmare 😭

touhou 15 lunatic real

https://youtu.be/hMvYEAxNtRc

[thorny parcel]

And speaking of extremely easy stuff, Arcane Ascensions is now 1 month old. I wonder if an update will happen this friday.

[final ore]

nightmare gameplay

[final ore]

oo

a big or small one, you think?

[proud fable]

Do devs do an update 1 month after big update?

[thorny parcel]

Probably adjustments to Arcane Ascensions.

[final ore]

oo

i hope they make it disableable

[proud fable]

disableable is a funny word

[thorny parcel]

Something like that. It's usually around 1 big update every 3-4 months, with smaller updates every month or month and a half.

[proud fable]

Yeah I knew that but I didn't know they usually do it the month after the big update

[thorny parcel]

But unless people have been vocal enough about it (I doubr it), I'm not too hopeful they'll make Arcane Ascensions optional.

If anything, they'll probably just make the various ascensions each scroll can have even stronger.

[final ore]

we can hope

[thorny parcel]

Buffed at random, of course.

[final ore]

😭

[proud fable]

Truly a gfr moment 😭

[final ore]

in classic gfr tradition

man theyre buffing all the wrong things

now MELEE

and BIRD

[thorny parcel]

And they'll insert 1 nerf somewhere, like lowering Revealer's magazine capacity.

[final ore]

lol

why

[proud fable]

Because every action has an opposite reaction

[thorny parcel]

After observations, most of the time they add 1 or 2 nerfs.

[proud fable]

its just not an equal one

[final ore]

bird nerfs i bet

[thorny parcel]

My theory that has absolutely no evidence is they have a quota of 1 nerf per update, to show that they are "balancing" and not just making everything easier.

[proud fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/920152399941861457/1051079241346854973/FDD1DFEB-2CD1-41E7-A3A8-B9838C7EDEB8.gif

Birb still my second favorite character

The nostalgia from playing him with my father and with my homies 3 years ago reigns supreme

[final ore]

bird has nice ascensions ig

i prefer qian sui tho

qian sui is the only character i like skill builds on

[proud fable]

Qian sui is just bird but better

[final ore]

qian sui is just but better

hes got a crazy ass shield, good ascensions, a hella good dash, a rapid fire secondary with extremely easy ways to cap out and his primary is literally a fucking shield

[proud fable]

Is that why I haven't heard of any strong endless runs with him.

[final ore]

i should try endless

on him

[proud fable]

Good luck

[final ore]

i mean i can get his secondary skill to cap way too early

[thorny parcel]

Because he suffers from poor range and low hit count.

[proud fable]

Yeah I know

[final ore]

poor range yeah

but like

[thorny parcel]

At least Birb likes shotguns.

[final ore]

you should see that movement

[proud fable]

Ye porcupine has good range

[final ore]

like GOD DAMN you can literally move around with just dashes at insane speeds

a normal dash is 3m. a qian sui dash with all bonuses is 18m

[proud fable]

Yeah

But thats borderline uncontrollable

[final ore]

no?

just spam shift and turn camera lmao

[proud fable]

I'd rather have good movement speed rather than fly around the map speed

[proud fable]

Ok I may have been exaggerating

[final ore]

its pretty controllable

[proud fable]

I only struggle with it in like, longling

Or in boulder vaults

[proud fable]

Ye I know how strong he is

But in endless, its gonna be a lot harder to find a working build

[final ore]

but ye ig he falls off in endless

super fun to play tho

[proud fable]

Yeah

[final ore]

nothing beats STAND BY FOR TITANFALL but its damn close

[proud fable]

However he's far from the strongest character

[final ore]

def

[final ore]

ig id say hes the best defensivelt

[thorny parcel]

That medal goes to Birb, ever since his rework.

You can get perfect invulnerability through leap spam relatively easily thanks to All or Nothing.

[final ore]

you can get perfect invulnerability from just pressing e once on turtle

[thorny parcel]

That's imperfect.

Yes it's invulnerability, but only from the front. Anything else you accidentally leave behind you will do full damage anyway.

[final ore]

does leap have iframes

[thorny parcel]

Yes.

It's also got a -100% DMG Taken after leaping ascension.

[final ore]

ioa

what do you think of... -99.935% damage taken

[thorny parcel]

I think it requires more than 2 ascensions to obtain.

[final ore]

fair

tho

@thorny parcel funny thing

[proud fable]

There is a reason he is called the birbulance

[final ore]

turtle has insane airtime with the dash length and spam

so mid air strike is almost always on

[proud fable]

bc his only purpose is to leap around the map and revive his homies

[final ore]

birbulance

never heard him called that

[proud fable]

Yeah you right

bc only 4 ppl call him that

[final ore]

lol

[proud fable]

But he is just an ambulance

[final ore]

is miasma that good btw

[proud fable]

unless hes in spiritual assault then he fucks with cleave

[proud fable]

Yes

[final ore]

ive never seen it being like

crazy good

ANYWAY

[thorny parcel]

Miasma is enough to kill pretty much everything in a relatively short time, regardless of how tough they are.

[final ore]

is combustion buffed by skill damage

since its explosive

[thorny parcel]

It could be considered a "baseline" for how much damage you should (and easily can) be dealing with other methods.

[proud fable]

except for armored enemies

[final ore]

i mean

[thorny parcel]

It's based on the hit that triggered it. If what you used is buffed by skill damage, then yes by proxy.

[final ore]

huh.

why does it have skill damage cap?

as in, skill damage cap

TRIPLED

[thorny parcel]

Because it simply ignores the cap, and does 200% of the hit that triggered it, with a x1.5 multiplier if the defence type the enemy has is HP or Armor.

[final ore]

300%

[thorny parcel]

Exactly.

The only reason why it can't reach ridiculous numbers is because the triggering hit is still limited by the cap.

[final ore]

anyway

ive noticed turtle is melee, but most of his melee ascensions are defense in melee range

[proven sage]

ey, thats me!

imagine if combustion wasent bugged, doubt it will ever get fixed

[final ore]

its bugged?

[proven sage]

it should do 200% of the impact as dmg to the target

[final ore]

its +200%

[proven sage]

but it is elemental

it does 300% against Health,Armor

and 150% against shields

[proud fable]

Nuh uh

[final ore]

yes, +200% x 1.5x if health or armor

not really a bug imo

[thorny parcel]

It double dips on the elemental effectiveness.

If you did 10m, it would be 15m with an advantage.

That 15m will then become a 30m Combustion, which would be 45m with an advantage.

[proven sage]

never did this untill a year ago~

and, at the time it was negative against armor

[thorny parcel]

Same thing in the opposite direction.

10m would become 7.5m.

7.5m would be 15m combustion, which would become 11.25m.

[final ore]

hm

[proven sage]

combustion has this ascension, when elemental Gemini is active

[final ore]

merciless strike or merciless combo?

ALSO

why do green chests not show rarity in color

and enhanced status

its annoying

it also doesnt let me recycle without picking up

[thorny parcel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[final ore]

took combo fuck it

does pyrodom have any effect on combustion damage cap?

[thorny parcel]

Level 3 doubles the damage of Burning and Combustion.

So yes.

[final ore]

so

270m dmg?

[thorny parcel]

It goes 200% * 2 * elementEffectiveness

You'd end up with either 300% or 600%.

[final ore]

oh i see

FUCK LMAO I TOOK FUCKING SCROLLS MASTER AAA

o well at elast its good scrolls

without saving before

[thorny parcel]

So yes, with a skill that has an elemental advantage (45m), you'd get 270m.

[final ore]

MY BELOVED

[final ore]

funky

[vale steeple]

I just recently started and I’m wondering if the game gets less repetitive? I’m about 6 hours in and I feel like things have already become stale. Does this change?

[final ore]

what difficulty

@thorny parcel is Close Combat multiplicative?

can someone explain to me

how am i supposed to defend myself on an elevator

from getting oneshot

[final ore]

on reincarnation, yes

ah yes

[blissful forum]

its a very repetitive game but if you make different builds and do different things its fun

[proud fable]

Such is the way of most roguelikes

[thorny parcel]

No.

[final ore]

so sad

[ebon cobalt]

in mission from above

what is backup energy?

i dont understand it

grill cheese obama sandwich

[thorny parcel]

You may recover more secondary skill uses when picking up supplies for them.

Same mission beyond the first are less effective.

[final ore]

mfw you dont have extra surprise

[kind slate]

whast the best sprititual blessing for bird

[final ore]

its the one thats called "quit"

[kind slate]

i he not good

that is a lot of shield

[final ore]

not that much

you should see turtle with 700 fist sensation stacks and ebb and flow

[thorny parcel]

He's the best at not dying (for those who say Nona is, no, she's the best at dying and living anyway) because of his incredible defensive skills and ascensions, but he's also got the weakest offensive power.

Unfortunately, defence means nothing when you can kill every enemy in a split second or render them completely useless, like how other heroes can. And because of his weak offensive power, he's also got the hardest time actually killing anything.

[final ore]

i meaaan

he has a shotgun affinity

and shotguns are extremely powerful

[thorny parcel]

You say that like he'd get the chance to get close enough to enemies before someone else blows them away.

[final ore]

depends on player count

i got to enemies faster than my friend with a sniper while running melee

leap closes distance p quick i think

[thorny parcel]

Your friend didn't have much movement speed then.

[final ore]

they were running tao and they hogged all the movement speed scrolls

so they definitely did

besides, bird has leap

[thorny parcel]

Birb has Leap, everyone else except Turtle has aiming.

When it comes to a room of enemies, who's faster, birb or boolit?

[final ore]

the wild hunt with +180% accuracy:

like even if he isnt that insane at clearing with a wild hunt bird should still absolutely erase bosses

[final ore]

tbh turtle also clears fast as shit if you know what youre doing

like he doesnt even need movement speed bonuses lmao

all it takes some dash cd reduction, 1 ascension, enhanced prop device and you have 18m dashes

that completely replace movement

[kind slate]

the bird is pretty good

[final ore]

would a lei luo run with melee be stupid

[thorny parcel]

No.

He's got movement speed to avoid getting hit as well as ascensions that shred anyone too close.

[final ore]

hm yeah

also grad improv

it would make BIG melee damage

@thorny parcel does lei have any bonuses to lightning damage?

[thorny parcel]

Nope.

Just bonuses from shocking enemies.

Kinda like Li, but without an ascension that's basically a ripoff from Cat.

[final ore]

li has a lot of fire dmg bonuses

or bonuses FROM inflicting it

lei luo it seems does not

[thorny parcel]

As in Li's got a bunch of bonuses from burning enemies.

Only got like... 2 fire damage bonuses, one being the ripoff.

[final ore]

lol fair i guess

[final ore]

@thorny parcel this is so fucking stupids

im doing

1.5m damage with a flowing light

at stage 3 duo fjord

[proud fable]

You say this as if monkey also doesn't have a shotgun affinity

and as if Monkeys shotgun affinity was weaker than birbs

[final ore]

whats your point

[green tiger]

monkey stronger than birb

[final ore]

obviously

[proud fable]

I'm saying bird's shotgun affinity is redundant because monkey's shotgun affinity is more prominent

[final ore]

it... most definitely is not redundant

it aint as good but its certainly not "redundant"

because the affinities work differently

[thorny parcel]

Yeah. One has to aim, the other doesn't.

One gets to cause the shotguns to explode on everything, the other doesn't.

[final ore]

ye

im not saying monke isnt better lol

[tame hare]

do we know when season 1 ends?

[thorny parcel]

It ends when season 2 starts.

Sometime in the future.

[proud needle]

About a quarter so 3ish months

and dont worry the rewards will still be attainable

[thorny parcel]

Most likely, but not 100% confirmed yet.

[proud needle]

100%

The how is the question but after all feedback it was clear to them it should be attainable

The unclear part is how
shop ?
Being able to set the reward track after the season ends ?
Something else ?
Those are the thing to clear

and with that I urge people to leave their opinion on that in https://discord.com/channels/656699542967812106/1195371480326881360

If you don’t speak your voice cant be heard

[thorny parcel]

"After the season ends, old gameplay may be closed or partially retained, and progress in old season tasks will be reset (we are considering introducing a season shop in future, where players can use soul essence to unlock rewards from past seasons that they missed)."

Nothing there says anything about a 100% guarantee.

I've already used the notes to come to my original answer.

[proud fable]

Ok maybe I exaggerated lol

However, it is borderline useless in comparison to monkeys

There's a reason why I used monkey for all of the shotguns in my "beat the game with every weapon once" challenge

[final ore]

sure

yes

i am not denying monkey is broken

IM JUST SAYING that their affinities functio ndifferently and therefore are not mutually redundant

[proud fable]

Yes but there's no point in utilizing the birds shotgun affinity when the monkey's is just better overall.

[thorny parcel]

That's the thing though, Monkey isn't broken aside from that one interaction with Piercing Flame.

So if Monkey isn't broken, where does that put Birb?

[ruby oasis]

Birbulance

[proud fable]

good man

[final ore]

it puts birb into hell

where he should stay

worthless ass character

[proud fable]

Bro

I still like the bird

Cleave in endless assault slaps hard

and the leap build is crazy in game

[final ore]

eh

[fickle cipher]

bird leap is nice

fly and go high and get iframes like a boss

[royal anchor]

slaps hard but not fast

[calm osprey]

So what are some of the most broken builds in the game rn? I have just started playing again recently and I'm not up to date on the nrw gemini stuff and which of the 3 season thingies works best. So far I've had a ridiculous runs with pistol noona and painkiller cat, anything else that can go nuts?

[ruby oasis]

double justice dog

[final ore]

dual wild hunt dog

[calm osprey]

For RE9? What gemini do you go for, and which arcane ascension?

[final ore]

thunder arcane, elemental gemini

make sure to get bloody ammo and deadly counter

[calm osprey]

That means I need to get an element on each wild Hunt no?

[royal anchor]

PF monkey

its objectively the most broken build because it kills bosses through their invincibility

[calm osprey]

Wait, how?

[royal anchor]

magic, i think i explained it 10 times by now but i will do it again

the exclusive inscription doubles the dmg of piercing flame for every hit, and cudgel also copies inscriptions. so if you hit 10 enemies you dmg will be multiplied 10 times

and this bonkers amount of dmg fucks with the code and just deletes bosses

though im pretty sure you need to pair it up with giant slayer to work properly

https://youtu.be/UvMoHtQhmIc

[calm osprey]

So it doesn't work without giant slayer? Or is that just the boss delete?

[royal anchor]

little showcase

[royal anchor]

regardless it deletes everything

[calm osprey]

Geez yeah I can see that

[royal anchor]

giant slayer is just a nice extra, maybe if i feel like playing the game again ill test it out

[calm osprey]

So its what, PF primary, what's the secondary and what blessings/arcane ascensions am I looking at?

[royal anchor]

(from: tastypieguy has: video ) put this in the search bar (without the brackets) to see some samples

#1055550986292297838 message

here is the build with some extra info

[calm osprey]

So why do you take elemental effect gemini here, and why with a bone dragon specifically instead of like flowing light or corrosion sword or something?

Is it just more flat damage because of want them all?

[thorny parcel]

Element share gemini for triggering Combustion fusion effects for even more hits and damage. Bone Dragon because it's a Launcher, with the Want It All blessing letting you use the offhand weapon's cudgel bonus. In this case, each cudgel gets an AoE.

[calm osprey]

I see. In that case would any launcher be fine? Also if you have painkiller anyways in the end does the elemental effect share even matter?

[thorny parcel]

Bone Dragon is one of the launchers with the highest elemental effect chances that can also be Corrosion. Even with Painkiller you're still getting more Combustion triggers because you have a higher chance to inflict any elemental effect.

[calm osprey]

I see. How exactly does combustion damage work? Is it just a flat amount or does it scale with your weapon damage?

[thorny parcel]

It's a percentage of the hit that triggered it.

200% of the hit, but modified to 150% vs Shields or 300% vs HP/Armor.

[calm osprey]

Ah I see, I always thought it was a flat damage, didn't realise it was so good

[last vine]

can anyone describe owl in like less than 4 paragraphs

[royal anchor]

pick purple ascensions that boost card dmg, spam cards, profit

[last vine]

more than 1 sentence please

[royal anchor]

not neccesary tbh

that one sentence is all you need

[narrow sky]

welp

my run has gone

funny

i'm at the point where I am 2 scrolls 1 weapon away from a 100% save file

but before I do that I wanna see how far this game will allow me to go

[narrow sky]

67...

hmm

it seems that game forced flesh & bones as well as paranormality (post boss, automatically given, #70) on me

I am a little sad that the game just doesn't throw thousands of enemies at me

...or more than 3 elites

[gusty mountain]

Are you playing on lone wolf 4p?

[narrow sky]

good point, I didn't actually select that I believe

welp

82

I think I am done

the game isn't getting harder

aw damn I forgot to move the Revealer to the arms dealer

oh well, I am done

only missing Demonlore

[royal anchor]

Cuz its boundless, the scaling is way slower than endless

[narrow sky]

I meant more like "if it isnt gonna throw thousands of enemies at me I am not gonna die"

[royal anchor]

Cuz they are squishy af, though if your build is good enough endless is a joke aswel

[thorny parcel]

Even if the game did throw thousands of enemies at you you're still not gonna die.

[narrow sky]

I wish it had the guts to do 1% damage reduction per level, then do 99.9 and add a 9 after that for each one after 100

[thorny parcel]

If anything, doing that would let you kill them faster.

[narrow sky]

I mean

Not in my case

Amount overload would actually end my run

[thorny parcel]

More enemies = more copper and kill stacks = faster damage bonus from Extravagant Consumption, Dual Edge and Elite Assassin.

And this game has player invincibility. Doesn't matter if there's 1 enemy or a million, you're still not-dying at the same rate because you would take no damage.

[narrow sky]

I mean

[thorny parcel]

Percentage damage exists for that.

[proven sage]

you would be stuck on a lvl

[thorny parcel]

Miasma, Poisonous Ghost and Ice Blade all ignore damage reduction.

[narrow sky]

Well if you win with that, thats just impressive

[thorny parcel]

It really isn't.

[narrow sky]

After 1000s of enemies, anyways

Didnt know those ignored damage reduction tho

[thorny parcel]

Those 3 things theoretically would work on 100% damage reduction, if enemies didn't outright negate the hits instead.

[narrow sky]

I mean, in my run, I wasnt invincible, just very strong

[thorny parcel]

You can quite consistently achieve a point in the game where you can't die and every enemy dies in a reasonable time.

[narrow sky]

I did have an invincibility run tho before this

[narrow sky]

Id still want it so I could make my PC suffer

[thorny parcel]

At this point in the game's life, the only thing that could actually defeat a player is if their PC lags so bad that either you give up or the game crashes.

Or you're doing Endless Journey and the timer literally locks you out for going too slow.

[narrow sky]

I will accept that fate

Not "game is taking too long to throw me a challenge"

I wasnt invincible

[soft oasis]

how do i access the endless mode

[candid gorge]

gunfire super fun but last time i logged on there was such a broken build that a turtle guy did

that it made it absolutely no fun for the rest of us

couldnt even touch any enemies

this was a few months back - any changes since then?

[proven sage]

Turtle ain’t even the strongest in that regard

nothing has changed

[thorny parcel]

If anything, things got worse.

[honest abyss]

Can't wait for the next new characters to damage cap at longling stage 1 😔🙏

[thorny parcel]

Nah they just have blessings which remove the damage cap.

[proud fable]

Thought your computer was crashing before? Now introducing Piercing Flame monkeys new side effect: Numbers so big they aren't justifiable!

[honest abyss]

If there was no damage cap that Xing Zhe build would just hit everything with the force of 250000 megatons of TNT

[honest abyss]

1 blessing removes the damage cap
Another 100 CritX for every ascension
Another that unleashes a 1000m ring every 1m moved dealing 100000% total damage
Another that just makes explosives clear the whole stage

[thorny parcel]

And a Bizarre Dream modifier which combines all those blessings into 1 blessing.

[honest abyss]

Chefs kiss

[thorny parcel]

The downside is giving enemies 5% more HP.

[honest abyss]

Me when I wish for more modifiers that gives challenge (I'm insane for thinking that)

[honest abyss]

A N.. N.. NERF?!?!?

https://tenor.com/view/scared-scooby-doo-gif-13099271

[thorny parcel]

No not a nerf. It's a fair and balanced compensation for the negligible amount of power that the Bizarre Dream offers.

You get 5 blessings in 1 slot, enemies get 5% more HP. Fair compensation.

[honest abyss]

That's too much!!!!1!1!!1!1!!1!

[thorny parcel]

Both have the number 5, so they're equal.

[honest abyss]

Make it 1!!!!

[median gazelle]

hello

what a round-a-bout way of a general chat...

um so

whats the difference between elite and nightmare exactly

i just killed ice monarch on elite to unlock it

i play a bit

[lime garnet]

and arcane ascensions

[median gazelle]

they also have scrolls? i noticed scroll symbols above some enemies

[thorny parcel]

They shouldn't at the point you're playing.

They might've had other symbols instead.

Either representing challenge events, status effects or enemy enhancements.

[median gazelle]

i see

thank you, both of you..

i'll try and look for another enemy with the scroll symbol @thorny parcel

[thorny parcel]

Sure.

[median gazelle]

Has there been plans to enable cross-play?

mobile - pc for example

[thorny parcel]

No.

[median gazelle]

or does pc have extra things

[thorny parcel]

They're fundamentally different.

[median gazelle]

ah

by the way

why do mobile players still get the 1st year anniversary frame?

[thorny parcel]

No idea, I don't have the mobile version.
Maybe someone else has an answer.

[alpine brook]

Before we never have problem and now me and my friend have a lot problem with conexion for play coop.. i dont understand why

[winged vine]

Their netcode has always been shockingly bad. Sometimes me and a mate have endless issues and other times it's fine.

[frosty surge]

#lfg-global message

I had fun using this gun for the first time! alongside the gemini effect of magazine share! XD

its a bit hard to tame! but I love how it helps me dash forward enemy lines while it auto aligns my aim up!

anyone who gets in front becomes sponges! x3

Ori helped me acquire the big hippo!

the first time I tried using the weapon skill.. I was overwhelmed by how much bullets it spent! x3

and its also so hard to aim with!

xx;;;

yeah!!

then it got better after some time!

by the time we were at the tundra area na.. I finally managed to understand how to make use of the instability!

[median gazelle]

There’s magazine share?

Oh no my friend and i use the same heavy

[worthy tapir]

Does this game have multiplayer on mobile to play with my friends we are both on iOS

[median gazelle]

Yes

[worthy tapir]

Let’s gooooo

I’m curious how optimised it is on mobile tho ..

[worthy tapir]

Does mobile have offline ?

[median gazelle]

No

[median gazelle]

Pretty good

It’s second only to pc when it comes to updates

[warm sentinel]

Running 90 fps on 865 SD, I haven't encountered any sort of lag. Not sure how it runs on an older gens phone.

[median gazelle]

60 fps here on iphone 13

Max graphics

[honest abyss]

Gfr is a well optimised game

[worthy tapir]

I have an iPhone 12 👀

[warm sentinel]

I think it should be fine it's mainly the iPhone XR that's usually a problem in the mobile community.

[worthy tapir]

Aight noted

[proven sage]

combustion has no CD on console

and shock does AoE

[final ore]

lol no

try 4 players

your fps will tank to 30 on a 4090

[worthy tapir]

Isn’t this game cpu base…

[honest abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/waltz-shrek-smile-meme-look-stare-gif-7854036537860693248

me reacting to the information presented

[warm sentinel]

How do you remove Pole Monarch invisibility in the second phase?

T'was it the sword on the Ice?

[thorny parcel]

You just wait for him to start charging the sword. Done.

[warm sentinel]

I'm confused because he didn't seem to be charging at all. He had a "Dark aura". This was after he threw the sword on the ice(?)

[thorny parcel]

1. He attacks you.
2. He goes to an aura jar and drains it (invincible).
3. Aura jar breaks, he attacks you.
4. He goes to the last aura jar and drains it (invincible).
5. Aura jar breaks, he attacks you.
6. At low HP, he dashes to the center (invincible).
7. He starts charging the sword.
8. You defeat him, end of battle.
   8.1. You don't defeat him, he cracks the crystal and attacks you.
9. You defeat him, end of battle.

[warm sentinel]

Does he instantly have the aura jar after he cracks the crystal because bullshit I look for it while tryna dodge.

Oml if that's the case I'm fuming

[thorny parcel]

Both aura jars are broken by the time he cracks the crystal.

[warm sentinel]

But he had invisibility after he broke the crystal and I couldn't end the fight when it was literally 1-5% max HP.

So there's no aura jars after the crystal break?

[thorny parcel]

There are no aura jars after the crystal break. He does not become invincible at that point.

[light viper]

Why is there still no rejoin/hotjoin in this game?

[winged vine]

Oh brother, yeah that's a fun killer for sure. Catches me and a buddy out all the time.

[last vine]

can nona be nerfed so i dont feel bad playing her

[thorny parcel]

Nope. Devs are allergic to meaningful nerfs.

[ebon cobalt]

whats ice blade? im looking at Tao build right now

nvm

im stupid

[winged vine]

Honestly all they'd need to do fix Nona would be to change her skill that enables strikewing to revive her to tier 3 of the ascention that gives strikewing more HP. Problem solved. Don't even need to touch her mechanics. It's that one passive skill that makes her a horrible character.

[thorny parcel]

Doesn't fix the whole "Pick Pair of Us, throw Iron Wing at everything as he fires dozens of missiles and is completely immune to death" thing she has.

In fact, moving her revive talent to an ascension would encourage people to use that more, because Nona would actually be killable.

[winged vine]

Well yeah exactly. It'd make you choose to have a tabky build or a damage build, not just always be able to have both.

[thorny parcel]

Pair of Us is a tanky build.

You just let everything focus on Iron Wing instead, while Iron Wing also murders everything.

In fact, the weakness of this build is exactly the same regardless of if you have revives or not. The weakness being you getting knocked down makes Iron Wing vulnerable to defeat.

[median gazelle]

Nona reminds me of Gaige from Borderlands 2

Might be inspired by her even

https://tenor.com/view/borderlands-gif-15191927

Also they both use mechromancy

[fickle cipher]

both of their robots fall off super fast in endgame scaling too

[median gazelle]

Lmao

[honest abyss]

yeah nona is not an ideal pick for endless

[thorny parcel]

Still not the worst, though.

[royal anchor]

nona is decent for endless now that the skill cap is raised

[hidden swan]

Hey so I know I’m pretty late on this but have you guys noticed any changes in terms of the whole unity fiasco?

[last vine]

if i have 2.5 thousand shield should i carry spirit feline or is it worse off for me

also have dual edge giving me a bunch of -damage reduction

well like -150

(spiritual assault)

my shield goes so high with 0 cooldown swords

actually nvm i think its just always better to have

that was incredibly easy

gluttony died instantly

rapid cast + ancient timer is just insane

[median gazelle]

Dual edge is scary man

[royal anchor]

Really isnt that scary if you have lightless shield and/or spirit feline

[rain wadi]

is there any website that shows build for all characters?

[royal anchor]

There is a build maker but no builds on there

Just ask around here ig

[last vine]

the wiki has a couple builds for each character

[lament schooner]

I updated the All or Nothing build for Qing Yan as I accidently discovered the most broken synergy possible.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189721406452285532/1211286798341251142/image.png?ex=65eda5bd&is=65db30bd&hm=2f67f8ead8accf5768dc42cde6c259b7da1f29a5139e6d715a7b0302866af90e&

It turns out All or Nothing counts as damage, which triggers fight for Immortality. Imagine.

[last vine]

wba paranormality

[lament schooner]

I didn't even get it that run.

[last vine]

or is that overkill/just death

[lament schooner]

I had 840? armour by the end of it.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189721406452285532/1211298462079918110/image.png?ex=65edb09a&is=65db3b9a&hm=3d08a8357c18f8935e07abdc472de5439b4577e10a41b9fcad16dd63286b7b21&

That gave me 3360% Leap damage.

If I had that synergy that increased it to 5% it would have been 4200%.

And with paranormality it would have been like 8400%.

I one shot the last boss. I just sort of sat there as he went through all 3 of his invincibility stages and then I leaped him on the last one and he just popped.

[last vine]

damn

[lament schooner]

It was like playing a 3D sonic game, just kept spamming the homing attack and instantly killing everything.

Literally had the same corrosion gauntlet I got out the starting chest and only used it because it had a fast rate of fire for Supernova.

Also had Thunder Step which was just hilarious having it triggering every time I leaped.

[lament schooner]

Lmao I got it and oneshot the golem

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1189721406452285532/1211306179112861696/Gunfire_Reborn_2024-02-25_13-36-10.mp4?ex=65edb7ca&is=65db42ca&hm=6af9519791dd4dce0c0a5c912916ea0d2a7f110a0601b1dd40c3829f73852d63&

E

[ruby oasis]

Thought this was a well known interaction

[proud needle]

Its the same as common sense for some people

you would think its well known

[lament schooner]

Usually common sense ends up on wiki's

[thorny parcel]

It did.

[lament schooner]

It wasn't on his build list though

[proud needle]

Not every single variant of a build is listed there

That falls under general leap build

Also is Reincarnation only

[thorny parcel]

Also the builds listed are more generalized. They tell you what you should look for consistently, not all the special little gimmicks.

Otherwise most builds could probably be doubled in size if all the little "get this item to do cool thing" was added, with explanation.

[lament schooner]

It doesn't factor in Supernova which in and of itself is a good like, 400% extra leap damage.

[thorny parcel]

It does, actually.

[lament schooner]

Why would you be breaking your armour prior to leaping if the leap breaks it for you?

[thorny parcel]

Nova Release activates on Armor Break. Doesn't care how it happens.

It would activate passively.

[lament schooner]

Oh, no that's not what I was talking about.

[thorny parcel]

It's damage for using armor break.

Which All or Nothing does.

[lament schooner]

If you use cleave it just destroys your armour without necesiarilly doing anything.

[thorny parcel]

But you wouldn't.

Because you're doing an All or Nothing build, not a Cleave build.

Again, you just need to break your armor, doesn't matter how.

[lament schooner]

Oh I see it now.

They just never mention the 400% leap damage from it, they just say it triggers.

I get you.

[thorny parcel]

It doesn't do 400% leap damage. It does its own damage based on your max Armor.

[lament schooner]

It does if you have 100 stacks, and it doesn't reset unless you cleave.

[thorny parcel]

It's bonus max Armor which All or Nothing uses, but it doesn't inflict Leap damage itself.

[lament schooner]

uh...

I know

That's what I was trying to say

[proud needle]

By the wording you are using you dont know and are mixing things up

Even if you do know, its small details that have importance as they are different sources

[lament schooner]

Tbh I wasn't aware of a skill called Nova Release, and on going on the wiki and seeing it redirects to Nova Shockwave I don't think that's entirely a fair assumption.

[thorny parcel]

Name change.

They're the same.

[lament schooner]

Someone should have updated it.

[thorny parcel]

Barely anyone edits the wiki.

Especially since they added things that make the game way too easy, boring people in the process.

[lament schooner]

Wow that was fast.

I was going to go and do it myself.

[lament schooner]

That's what melee builds are for.

I'll admit it is a little dumb, you get that skill that gives you 100% damage reduction and you are literally invicible. If you get lucky you can get like that on the first level.

[thorny parcel]

If you have to restrict yourself to a weapon type that wasn't even in the game to begin with (and suffered problems because enemies weren't designed to get close to them) just to make the game difficult, you're pretty much locking yourself out of almost everything.

[lament schooner]

I just think they're fun, especially with the speed boost you get. It's sort of like playing Genji, even the dying part is just as frequent.

[thorny parcel]

Did you know there are still enemies in the game you can't hit with true melee?

[lament schooner]

See I thought I couldn't hit the flying saucer until I landed a leap underneath it and it exploded a mile above me.

[thorny parcel]

Not flying saucers.

A bandit tactician and an octopus, maybe more.

[lament schooner]

I've bonked lots of those already.

[thorny parcel]

The octopus is on the main path too, so a pure melee run gets softlocked by that one spawn high up above an elevator.

[lament schooner]

Oh, you mean it's just using the terrain to it's advantage.

[thorny parcel]

No I mean you literally cannot hit it because there are impassable walls in the way.

[lament schooner]

Is it intentional?

[thorny parcel]

Doubt it, but it's there regardless.

Because melee was added after many things were designed with ranged weapons in mind.

[lament schooner]

Worst case scenario it encourages you to use both weapon slots.

[lament schooner]

Ah, I wasn't aware. I got dragged in by a friend a few weeks back without knowing this ever existed.

Honestly that does explain why there's so few melee weapons to choose from, I quite enjoy them. Expect the buzzsaw that thing is absolute steaming shite.

Only use I could think of is turning the bird into a sonic OC.

It's not like I actually use any other keys than W and E

Does also explain why the AI sort of just like, sits there. For all the different behaviours they have I found it quite odd they'll just stand their ground when you're slapping them with a sword.

[final ore]

are you sure they cant be killed with the stupid flowing light secondary hitbox?

[thorny parcel]

Pretty sure people have tried.

[final ore]

mm ill test later i guess

[thorny parcel]

High up and far away doesn't favour melee weapons at all.

[final ore]

yea

melee weapons are also an utter joke pre-reincarnation

[lament schooner]

They're not bad with the cat.

The base damage is enough to create a nice infinite chain of OHKO's whilst you speed around the levels.

[final ore]

not really

outside of reincarnation

melee does damage that is a complete joke without counterviolence

[lament schooner]

I found that having the fire & acid melee weapons with the prince and that dual element gemini is pretty good too.

[median gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/gunfire-reborn-qian-sui-polar-monarch-turtle-bear-gif-27093771

[final ore]

mf doesnt evem know their names damn

[median gazelle]

I know

[lament schooner]

There's like 4 melee weapons

[median gazelle]

Fire tower 😎

Flowing light 😎

[final ore]

yeah

flowing light my beloved

[median gazelle]

Fire tower my beloved

[final ore]

true

i usually run both with eleshare gemini

you know whats an extremely broken build with melee though

gradual improvement + counterviolence on tiger

youll be getting damage capped by the end of the run

[median gazelle]

Tbh all weapons are broken on tiger

Also

Trying to pre shot the saucers with fire tower is making my hair white

[lament schooner]

True

[lament schooner]

Supposedly my highest damage on the bird after getting Fight for Immortality & Paranormality was 46M

[final ore]

impossible

45m max

[median gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-master-oogway-kung-fu-panda-gif-26485559

[lament schooner]

Being completley honest.

[final ore]

large doubt

skill damage cap is 44999999 damage

[lament schooner]

Is that "per skill"?

[final ore]

per skill hit

[lament schooner]

But not per instance of damage?

[final ore]

hit = instance of damage

if your skill has multiple projectiles then its 45m per projectile

[lament schooner]

But whatabout that extra damage from Nova Shockwave that goes off at the same time?

[final ore]

either 14999999 or 44999999

it would show as a separate number either way

[median gazelle]

So what are these booty cheeks and pf cults

Also how to enroll

https://tenor.com/view/i-made-my-own-costume-beavis-mike-judge-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s2-e11-gif-231539525744773289

[fickle cipher]

Hello potential recruit

[last vine]

is copycat op

[fickle cipher]

1. Get piercing flame with the inscription “ +100% Weapon DMG for each enemy the ammo pierces and an additional damage is applied to all enemies it has passed through”
2. Play monke
3. Make sure you take the blessing Want Them All
4. Have a launcher as the offhand weapon
5. Pick anything that improves soul strike
6. Pick field proficiency
7. Mash primary skill button and clear a whole area

[last vine]

never taken it before

but i tried it

and it seems like way too easy

[fickle cipher]

This is how to join PF Cult

Yeah you get lots of bonuses

[last vine]

is it too op like painkiller or will it still be kinda difficult

[fickle cipher]

Real good pick

Pretty op

You can get guaranteed elemental effect

And a whole lot of damage boosts

[last vine]

next season: arcane guns