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[proud fable]

Qian sui hurtle 1 shots everything

[harsh mirage]

Yeah infinite upgrades are going to quite literally break the game. I mean sure it's an optional modifier but still. Achievements are obtainable with these modifiers

[velvet hamlet]

is it possible tho?

[rough basin]

brick is incredibly fun bro

[thorny parcel]

Unless it was changed, I believe that getting back weapons you stored will bring them to a stage-appropriate level.

That being said, you'll still get your super powerful inscriptions in 2-3.

[harsh mirage]

Oh so you just lose the upgrades and the only thing that is going to be useful is the inscriptions?

[velvet hamlet]

sad

[hushed bronze]

how is the dlc

[rough basin]

i am having a blast. but owl character seems complicated

[thorny parcel]

You can still choose from a range of weapons with OP inscriptions you've decided to stash away.

And given how a bunch of inscriptions also got buffed...

[velvet hamlet]

bussin

[cloud plume]

Could anyone give an explanation of the owl that makes sense? i'm so confused by them

[proud fable]

use his secondary ability to gain Astroaspects which are added to your astroaspect slots (the three scroll slots on the bottom of your screen). astroaspects have a random quality whose chance is based on the average rarity of the occult scrolls you own (as well as ascensions, talents and other means of manipulating it), and cursed ones are random.

when you get 3 astroaspects, it fills a bar called Astrohouse. you can continuously use his skill to reroll your astroaspects. if you get all 3 of the same kind of astroaspect (so blue/purple/orange, and red is equivalent to orange), you get a special boost to your primary based on the quality.

your primary is essentially a(n at least initially) small aoe that does damage, and gains the secondary effect of causing stars to fall on enemies when you have full astrohouse.

If you want simpler I can do kinda explain it with a bit less text

[cloud plume]

nope that's perfect, answers exactly what i wanted to know

haven't played much of it so i'm just gonna assume that at the start of runs, the odds of hitting three of the same kind is kinda impossible

and that gets better later on

[proud fable]

Good luck with the ascensions tho

[cloud plume]

i guess another qucik question while i'm at it. does it work in the way that, if you have a lot of normal scrolls, your odds of astroaspect is heavily weighted towards getting a normal aspect?

[proud fable]

Yep

[cloud plume]

hmmm ok, pretty interesting. it's probably too early to get any math on this. like how likely getting three normals is with x amount of normal scrolls

but thanks though

really useful

[hushed bronze]

I bought it but at work

Can't wait

[rough basin]

nice, i oneshotted a vault elite with a brick.

[proud fable]

ye np

[hushed bronze]

the brick is a sniper? omg a Lei Lou weapon!

YAAAS

[royal plinth]

im very displeased with current qing yan

[gusty mountain]

aren't we all

[proud fable]

Gunfire reborn is like the real world

Give power to the powerful and fuck the weak

[cloud plume]

Fate Thread "Increase the capacity of slots. If Falling star is an impure astrohouse, replace the lowest quality astroaspects with wild astroaspects"

Is it just me or is this really bad? you're increasing your capacity to 4 so your odds of hitting 4 of the same is way lower than 3 of the same and you need to spend more secondary to get to a house.
Is this purely if you go for like a "wild astroaspect build"

[gusty mountain]

Imagine a lobby with 4 Nona and they face Act 4 elite gathering. Went down? Just get revived by robot.

[proud fable]

Is arsenal guard supposed to replace chest?

[atomic junco]

if you have battle scarred and paranormality, does having 1 hp count as having 100% of your hp for the purpose of the DR?

[thorny parcel]

1. More slots affects certain other ascensions, like increased damage based on number of slots.
2. Even with more slots, you're still replacing the worst aspects with wild ones equal to the extra slots, so you still get the same amount of random ones. Additionally, you have a chance to replace more, which lowers the number of random slots.

[atomic junco]

replacing lowest quality with wild astrohouse essentially nullifies that negative of hitting 4 of the same anyway

[slender holly]

can anyone summarize the owl?

[atomic junco]

when you get 3 astroaspects, it fills a bar called Astrohouse. you can continuously use his skill to reroll your astroaspects. if you get all 3 of the same kind of astroaspect (so blue/purple/orange, and red is equivalent to orange), you get a special boost to your primary based on the quality.

your primary is essentially a(n at least initially) small aoe that does damage, and gains the secondary effect of causing stars to fall on enemies when you have full astrohouse.```

[kind tusk]

feels like owl explanation should be pinned or something lol

so much unintuitive ui stuff

the last bit of info about them i really have no idea about is how the scroll upgrades work

and the math behind the scroll draw probability i suppose

[atomic junco]

scroll upgrades essentially cause scrolls to count as a higher level for the purpose of the owl's mechanic that weights your astroaspect gain based on the average quality of your owned scrolls

[slender holly]

someone needs to master him and make a youtube video

[kind tusk]

oh gotchaa

so that's why every build trends towards legendary

[atomic junco]

the game will automatically upgrade scrolls for you based on the chosen upgrade strategy in the menu

that same talent that lets him do that also lets him just

[exotic cobalt]

ngl - I'm curious about this. I like how it's worded. So, from what I understand - your Copper could go from 1376 -> 1316 -> 6311 potentially

[atomic junco]

literally reroll any scroll that hasn't alredy been rerolled once every stage change

[proud fable]

yes

[atomic junco]

to one guaranteed to be of the same quality

[kind tusk]

i like how the bar below your e is literally entirely unexplained

[proud fable]

I'm pretty sure it just guarantees that you will always start off with 1999-1000 copper at the beginning of every stage

[atomic junco]

the bar below your E is your Astrohouse

[proud fable]

regardless of how much you had

[kind tusk]

i felt like a genius when i figured out that (i think) it just represents the probability that pressing e will give an astrohouse of that color

[proud fable]

oh wait

Maybe not

[atomic junco]

if it's gray, you have an unmatching astrohouse (not all scrolls are the same color), if it's a certain color that means you have a matching astrohouse of that color

[exotic cobalt]

I think there are literally more permutations of numbers that are positive for you than negative, as long as the far left number is not the highest

[atomic junco]

there's no probability involved in his primary

[proud fable]

yeah nvm

[kind tusk]

the primary randomly draws to fill their astrohouse i thought

[exotic cobalt]

so within 1###-3### - your odds of the outcome being positive seems high

[proud fable]

I thought it was change the first number to 1 then randomize the last 3

[kind tusk]

i'm preeeetty sure the bar represents the chance of getting an astrohouse of that color

[atomic junco]

the primary only expends the astrohouse to deal damage based on the astrohouse's contents

[exotic cobalt]

Because no matter what, assuming you use your copper wisely - the 2nd number should always be something controllable

[proud fable]

1376 -> 1316 -> 1311

[atomic junco]

so basically

[proud fable]

or 1376 -> 1316 -> 1131

[exotic cobalt]

no no

[proud fable]

ye because highest number becomes 1

[exotic cobalt]

1376 -> 1316 -> 6311/6131/1361

[proud fable]

6 is highest number, therefore it becomes one

[exotic cobalt]

7 is the highest digit out of 1376

[proud fable]

Ah thats one stage

[kind tusk]

i'm pretty sure the primary fills your astrohouse?

[proud fable]

I thought you meant two different stages

[kind tusk]

at least it visually seems like it does

[proud fable]

god I need to go to bed

[exotic cobalt]

and to permute the digits, means to randomly swap the digits around

[proud fable]

and no it does not

[proud fable]

no ik

[kind tusk]

wait ok

[proud fable]

I thought you meant 1376 -> 1316 was 1 stage and 1316 -> 6131 was another

[kind tusk]

what are the colors on the far left then

[atomic junco]

the Astrohouse is the sum of your Astroaspects, which you gain through some ascensions but mostly through using your secondary card ability. when you gain 3 astroaspects you fill the bar, the astrohouse, and the primary skill is modified based on what astrohouse you have. an Imperfect, grey, astrohouse is weak and does very little, this happens if you have no matching astroaspects (scroll qualities).

blue astrohouse creates one kinda weak explosion if you have 3 normal astroaspects, purple creates one small and one big explosion that does fair damage with 3 rare, and orange creates a really strong aoe that does constant ticks of damage with 3 orange. red ones come from cursed skulls and can fill in for any other astroaspect.

[proud fable]

far left?

[kind tusk]

when you have an empty astrohouse

[exotic cobalt]

so theoretically, you gain the highest odds of making your copper ridiculously greater by ending your first stage with 1,234/1,345/1,456/etc

[kind tusk]

it numerically lines up with the probability of rolling a full astrohouse of that color as far as i can tell

[proud fable]

I'm assuming it has something to do with chance

[kind tusk]

given 4 draws in a row

[exotic cobalt]

so if you end Stage 1 with 1,789 - the game can go 1,789 -> 1,781 -> 8,711

[proud fable]

ye because I had a decently sized orange bar earlier and was rolling a lot of legendaries

[exotic cobalt]

That sounds ludicrous

[proud fable]

yes I got it

I just got you mixed up

[exotic cobalt]

tis not just for you, I'm talkin to erryone - why is nobody giving this a spotlight rn .,.

tis the most busted thing I see

[atomic junco]

because frankly it's not that hard to end up with way more copper than you can spend already

[exotic cobalt]

Excuse me? . -.

You lucky?

Copper gain doesn't happen that easily per run. This is an unprecidented potential way of multiplying copper faster than any other scroll I've ever seen o -o

[kind tusk]

for example here with a legendary chance of 42% it does seem to be about 0.1764th of the bar

[atomic junco]

hmmm

[proud fable]

Yeah

[kind tusk]

and with 1 more it's almost half

[proud fable]

Imagine the riches privileges/extravagant consumption

[exotic cobalt]

omfg

[atomic junco]

maybe i've misunderstood the astroaspects somewhat. what i don't understand is that if you like

[exotic cobalt]

how would that work

[proud fable]

Oh true

extrav would be strang

[atomic junco]

if you fill the astrohouse completely and even one scroll doesn't match, in my experience the chance to do anything other than the weakest version of the primary goes to 0

[kind tusk]

well yes

[exotic cobalt]

Does it go Lucky Roulette -> Extravagant?

[proud fable]

if so thats broken

[kind tusk]

because you have an impure astrohouse

[exotic cobalt]

lol

[kind tusk]

in your hand

[atomic junco]

are you meant to try and roll the dice on a less than full astrohouse? my assumption was just that you're supposed to only go for pure astrohouses and anything else would just give you garbo lol

[proud fable]

if it goes extrav -> lucky roulette then you're guaranteed to either start a stage with 10 or 1 copper lmfao

[exotic cobalt]

I'd say Extravagant > Riches - in terms of Lucky Roulette

[atomic junco]

i suppose that's my lizard brain telling me that filling slot = good

[exotic cobalt]

cause riches is dependant on current money - Extravagant can just take the money

[proud fable]

yep

[kind tusk]

i'm pretty sure the bar itself represents the chance you actually put out an astrohouse of the given type when pressing e

here wait

pressing e

i'm almost certain

just fills the rest of your astrohouse

[proud fable]

?

[kind tusk]

in fact i'm so certain i've recorded me rolling a legendary astrohouse twice upon pressing e

and i will upload the video now

[proud fable]

That does make sense

[atomic junco]

... that's happening to me too now actually but i feel like it wasn't happening before--maybe i need to cut back on the devil's lettuce or something

[kind tusk]

i don't know why you all are so certain the astrohouse doesn't fill upon pressing e when it literally does

https://youtu.be/Em-b0sjzEBk

[proud fable]

ig I could be wrong bc I was getting some crazy falling star things without an full astrohouse

private video btw

[kind tusk]

bruh

ok should be watchable now

you can visually see the astrohouse filling

[proud fable]

yez

[exotic cobalt]

So every 100 copper spent = 1% damage, you gain Extravagant + Roulette and end every stage at least with 1,999/1,888/1,777/etc. 1,555 -> 1,155 -> 5,511 = 500 + [+50% All Damage] for passing one stage. Hecc- guess I'm playing gunfire sometime really soon -u-'

[kind tusk]

ok i do think i actually understand the character now

[proud fable]

...

[kind tusk]

there is some extreme jank with how explosive hand interacts with astroaspect-giving ascensions though

[atomic junco]

yeah i think i understand him less as time goes on

[kind tusk]

it's

[proud fable]

Yeah his card throwing is extremely janky

[kind tusk]

honestly way overcomplicated by the descriptions

[proud fable]

Sometimes you need to look at an enemy for like 2 seconds until cards actually start throwing and other times the cards just fly

[kind tusk]

no like

okay

the spiritual blessing

it says it empties your astrohouse when it's full but it doesn't actually if you have ascensions that fill your astrohouse

it's really weird

[atomic junco]

oh yeah

https://i.imgur.com/o0s4eXL.png

this one

i think we're in the exact same situation

because i also have explosive hand and this

[kind tusk]

explosive hand just

doesn't discard your astrohouse sometimes

seemingly randomly

[atomic junco]

its chance appears to also be based on the overall quality of your scrolls

it's at 61% for me

[kind tusk]

yeah maybe i should get much higher leg chance so the probabilities simplify

[exotic cobalt]

I want that "Finally, I have all 3" meme with this now. Or "Our battle will be legendary!"

[kind tusk]

i need to do a no explosive hand run as well because i think it's kinda messing with my testing

[exotic cobalt]

wait a minute

If I have Shared Adversity, and Enhanced Talisman - and someone else has enhanced talisman... couldn't you simply drop and pick up the curse over and over until it gets copied - then drop it for another teammate to use on some chest?

[kind tusk]

also maybe it's just me or does the secondary skill not actually draw randomly?

it draws the first card randomly but then seemingly each subsequent one will match the card already in the astrohouse

[proud fable]

I think its more of a very high chance

[kind tusk]

it doesn't seem that way to me

[proud fable]

but I did get a couple moments where i'd get two legendaries then cast another secondary and my astrohouse would clear

[kind tusk]

unless it's some ridiculously high probability to the point where it's negligible

maybe i'm experiencing some explosive hand jank

[proud fable]

idk anymore

this pirb is too complicated

[kind tusk]

i feel like it's not actually that bad

just has a variety of

extreeeeeeeme jank with ascensions and spiritual blessings

[proud fable]

yeah

[exotic cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/hallelujah-gif-gif-26301934

I almost felt insulted getting "auto-reloaded"

I'd rather have +50% to burning targets on a sting

[plain panther]

That owl needs a masters degree in mathematics to understand - but i love him

[thorny parcel]

Him.

[plain panther]

Ah

There we go, fixed it

[atomic junco]

i think owl's theming kicks ass

i really like him

[rough basin]

the mech girl is fun too. much more simple. the ranged mech mode really kills everything for you so its relaxing

[plain panther]

Its a "Sit back and relax" kinda deal, havent tried her mech in higher tiers yet

[kind tusk]

forcing card build feels even more brainless than atomic dog

significantly less powerful, but more brainless

none of that pesky "vaguely aiming" shit required

another question: how does owl interact with untold effort

and similar scrolls

[atomic junco]

i just threw an exploding golden burning corrosive brick at a ufo and exploded it in one hit for 333,000 damage

gunfire reborn is a good game

[kind tusk]

okay nevermind i think explosive hand just makes all card draws match the previous

for no reason

[plain panther]

amazing.

[atomic junco]

yeah nona... really needs some nerfs...

i think that owl is in an okay place, some of his stuff is a tiny bit jank and i think at his most powerful he might be a bit stupid but not in a way that i think is like, unprecedented

but nona is. way over the line lol

i'm on ascension 8 solo with all the difficulty modifiers turned on and iron wing is just. tearing through everything

[quick sapphire]

I've read everyything the owll does and I still does not understand anything

[atomic junco]

you just have to feel it out a bit, the descriptions complicate stuff a lot i think

[proud fable]

No I would argue that owl would have potential to be stronger than Li

If owls cards weren't so goddamn janky

However, with minimal aiming, massive damage, and a dps that rivals tao swords, I'd say nona dont compare

[quick sapphire]

Just to try to understand since I'm playing it.
When I use the secondary skill, it put 3 autto aiming card around me that goes to the nearest enemy when there is one. It also sometime gives me "scroll icons" of different colors. When and what does it do ?

[proud fable]

Different color scrolls mean higher rarity

so when you get blue cards, you get a blue "Astroascension"

[quick sapphire]

Can I get blue+purple+orange at the same time ?

[proud fable]

When you get 3 (ascensions can make it up to 6), your primary skill will be more powerful

[quick sapphire]

Oh okay so cards = primary skill damage

[proud fable]

Yes, but that leads to an impure astrohouse

[proud fable]

basically

3 legendries is the strongest

[quick sapphire]

My astroascension clears themselve when using secondary, is there a reason ?

[kind tusk]

you probably have explosive hand

[proud fable]

Waste knows more than I do

take it away!

[kind tusk]

i'm working on a reddit writeup at the moment

[quick sapphire]

Oh yeah I do

[kind tusk]

literally made a reddit account just for this shit

[quick sapphire]

I'm gonna wait for your post and try to figure it out in the meantime then 😄

[kind tusk]

explosive hand is ultra jank so don't ask me any more questions about it

[proud fable]

Preach, preacha

[kind tusk]

it just (tends to) clear your hand and always draws cards that match the latest one in your astrohouse

[plain panther]

And makes boom, its...confusing

but the owl (in the end) comes down to:

Collect Astroascension

• IF they are the same color: Special Effect with more dmg
• IF they are NOT the same color: Impure
  ⬆️ Impure can be "fixed" by ascensions
  There are "Wild" Astroaspects which you get by having Cursed Scrolls (I think?) - they are treated as Legendary

Ok, it actually comes down to: Same color goes boom, higher grade color goes bigger boom and match them scrolls

[thorny parcel]

Wild aspects aren't legendary, they fit whatever works best, or legendary otherwise.

So if you've got 3 normal and 1 wild, the wild will pretend to be normal.

[compact raft]

highest damage you guys have hit with owl? just got 1 billion on a pretty good run

had 40 secondary uses lmfao

[proud fable]

I got 1.4 with 60 lmao

double exhil goes crazy

[nova bane]

bro i need a wholeass phd to understand what the heck this owl dude does

[harsh mirage]

I'm looking at Steam's refund policy and I'm not sure how this is going to work if I were to buy the new dlc. I have well over 100 hours of playtime in Gunfire and I want to check out the new dlc but I'm not really sure about it. I never really tried to refund just the dlc for a game so can someone enlighten me how this works?

[nova bane]

is it basically just

poker but with guns

also is nona is just turbo piss easy mode for solo player

the mech auto revive has to be the most broken thing

it tanks for you

it aims for u

if you somehow manage to die

ITS FUCKING REVIVES U

[harsh mirage]

DLC purchased from the Steam store is refundable within fourteen days of purchase, and if the underlying title has been played for less than two hours since the DLC was purchased, so long as the DLC has not been consumed, modified or transferred. if I understand this part correctly it's basically the same rule as playing the game for 2 hours but it counts from the moment the dlc was purchased?

[quick sapphire]

Just did a missile nona run god that's easy

Shoulder cannon level 3 just made it so the mech cleared everything before I had the time to hit anything

[proud fable]

what blessings did u take?

[nova bane]

yeah idk man

i genuently dont see how you could lose with nova

[quick sapphire]

Fire coverage + skill freak + eye of providence

[nova bane]

when a 500

hp mech

WITHOUT ANY BUFFS

by default its 500

can revive u

like wtf man

[proud fable]

and ur lw one?

[quick sapphire]

Did not use lone wolf

only spiritual link and ttranscendent arsenal

[proud fable]

ok

[quick sapphire]

Well gotta go, a poke bowl place opened near me and i wanna check it out. Have fun with the DLC guys

[nova bane]

idk i guess its "balanced"

because this charcter has the lowest shield in the entire game

but it doesnt matter because there are so many scrolls that can counter that

plus you are litteraly immortal with this thing reviving u

also he gets stuck

A lot

lol

[proud fable]

ao bai:

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[nova bane]

they have the same

[thorny parcel]

Nona also has the lowest shield recharge delay and the fastest shield recharge speed.

[nova bane]

does it matter tho

when she can self res

idk it just seems very counter intuitive

the summoner class

[thorny parcel]

No, but her shield isn't the worst, not by a long shot.

[nova bane]

should have the clear weakness

that if you defeat the summoner

[proud fable]

How is it counter intuitive?

[nova bane]

you win

but with her

its completetely backwards

[thorny parcel]

Dog gets 10% per second and must wait 4s to start.

Panda gets 50% per second and must wait 2.5s to start.

[proud fable]

jesus

[nova bane]

idk to me

[proud fable]

Dinasty

[nova bane]

it like

[thorny parcel]

If you get Overwhelming Shield with her, it's basically an unstoppable 25% per second.

[proud fable]

Do you know these devs

[nova bane]

this character

litteraly doesnt have a single weakness

because they covered

the single one it had

with the res

and YOU WILL

get resed always

this thing had 500 hp

default

[thorny parcel]

DinastyX...

[nova bane]

get a couple assentions and its way tankier

[proud fable]

Poor thing

[thorny parcel]

These devs don't even know the concept of balance.

[nova bane]

nah like

i dont care if the mech is oneshotting everyone

[thorny parcel]

Everything they touch (except Birb), turns into OPness.

[nova bane]

whatever go nuts on dmg

but like

[proud fable]

Only way you die is in elite gatherings

[nova bane]

she is litteraly

immortal

[proud fable]

5 elites hammering on a poor robot if you go down

[nova bane]

and a few other chacters

can be pretty immortal too

[thorny parcel]

This is just a new peak at how far the devs can buff something and make new things be OP.

[nova bane]

but they need something to make it work

like scroll and assentions

she is

[proud fable]

don't worry

[nova bane]

immortal

[thorny parcel]

Expect something even worse later on.

[nova bane]

from start of game

till end

[proud fable]

She'll get buffed in about 3 months

[thorny parcel]

*1 month.

[proud fable]

Nonono

She's gonna get a tiny nerf in 1 month

decreases her dmg output by half a percent

[nova bane]

i mean idk anything about dmg

i havent really tested

but the golem hp

defently needs to get nerfed

[proud fable]

then the furry community nona diehards are going to explode with so much rage that the screams of their anguish will destroy every piece of glass in the known universe

[nova bane]

to like 300

or maybe even

250

[thorny parcel]

Oh yeah, you're right.

[nova bane]

500 at start is insane

[proud fable]

And then the devs will give her a 50% damage increase and a +50 shield buff

[nova bane]

it doesnt matter

she litteraly

doesnt need any defensive scroll

you can UNNIRONICALLY

afk

[proud fable]

Oh yeah and they'll give the robot +200 speed and +100 starting hp

veri gud

[nova bane]

every stage

and clear itbtw

YOU KNOW WHAT

IM GONNA TRY IT

full afk run

to prove how stupid this char is

[proud fable]

how do u move afk

[nova bane]

like afk

everytime enter new room

[proud fable]

Ik

[nova bane]

then move to next one

[proud fable]

I'm joking

[thorny parcel]

First update they'll nerf the Iron Wing reviving her... by giving it a 2s cooldown.

Then second update when everyone screams at how she's now useless, she gets +150 Max Shield blessing, 2 of her blessings will increase damage even further, and Iron Wing will get special attacks by default.

[nova bane]

ill only pick scrolls and assentions

no dodging

shooting

or even casting e

to slam the mech

litteraly just afk

[proud fable]

Thats probably a bit more realistic

They'll also buff its speed too

[nova bane]

oh yeah

thats the crazy part

it doesnt even have acooldown

the rez

should defn have like

[proud fable]

Unfortunately it's ai will still be the equivalent of sticking an apple into an oven (Don't ask, that's a bad memory)

[nova bane]

a 3min + cd

[proud fable]

But other than that

[quick sapphire]

Res would be fine-ish with 180s cd

[proud fable]

yes I know

[thorny parcel]

They probably wanted to let you simulate "True Multiplayer".

[nova bane]

idk just nerf golem hp

so that it can actualy fail

the res

because right now

that thing

is litteraly thanos

in fact

[proud fable]

Me and my robot were bullied into submission by the local elite coyotes and arsonists 😔

[nova bane]

if thanos bumped into

nonas mech

[thorny parcel]

Dinasty, please don't spam posts.

[proud fable]

I didn't have enough damg

[nova bane]

thanos would appolagize

[quick sapphire]

"Mech cannot res while in fire mode" since it's stationnary would be cool

[thorny parcel]

Put more words into a coherent sentence first, then post.

It saves a lot of space so people don't have to scroll as much.

[proud fable]

I'm very tempted to post a picture of spam

[quick sapphire]

Anybody tried melee mech ? How's it going ?

[proud fable]

I tried it

[nova bane]

or maybe something like just nerfing the golem revive speed

actualy that sounds like the best thing they can do

[proud fable]

I probably didnt do it right but it wasn't very good

It was OP earlygame bc it did thousands of damage

like 15k

but at the end of desert it was only doing like, 60k

for the primary skill

The normal attack was doing like

[nova bane]

movespeed scrolls are very good on the meele build

[proud fable]

20-30k

Which is good, but not as good as some of the other stuff

[rough basin]

so owl can never be strong from the start cuz first its just an RNG fest.
If i understand correctly i need to get lucky and fill up the whole bar for the main ability to do anything cool

[proud fable]

Kinda ye

Owl secondary skill build mainly relies on having a shit ton of secondary charges

So you can spam all the cards

[thorny parcel]

To be fair "never be strong from the start" pretty much sums up every hero nowadays, at least compared to the slaughterhouse of late game.

[nova bane]

does anyone know if weapon move speed bonuses work on the mech?

[proud fable]

they do

[nova bane]

wow thats interesting will try

[proud fable]

So I guess you could just take endless assault as your lone wolf ascension and then exploding cards as your main one

That'll knock out most of the rng

Especially with the owl getting boosted t3 ascensions

[rough basin]

what does resetting do on a scroll?

[proud fable]

if you hold z on it

Then it will either transform it into a random scroll of a higher rarity or a random scroll of the same rarity

I'm not sure how it prioritizes how it upgrades scrolls or rerolling them

[rough basin]

and i can reroll max of 3 times per run?

[proud fable]

I think its either per act or per stage

[rough basin]

ah, it seems enhanced rerolls into enhanced

[proud fable]

thats good

[nova bane]

you gain per assention right?

[rough basin]

the jet octopus is fun to use

i cant figure out how to actually upgrade a scroll. Im in my occult scroll backpack. I have 3 Upgrade times. Reset times 0.
Z doesn't do anything there. I can only discard scrolls with right click hold.

[small nest]

Upgrades are automatic and are there to influence probability for the Astroaspects you draw with your Secondary. You can see the upgrades by the color icon on the scroll.

[rough basin]

ohh, when changing the upgrade strategy it went from 5 to 0 upgrade times. i get it

[small nest]

Yup. And the probability is shown above the strategies allowing you to see how your upgrades actually affected your chances.

[kind tusk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/GunfireReborn/comments/13xg0xd/an_early_guide_to_owl/ not sure if this is the right place but i did make a brief owl writeup that covers the basic functions of the character

[median prairie]

very nice guide

[nova bane]

The undying mech is cool and all but what im really wondering about the dmg bonus. If it is litteraly +1% Dmg Implying ALL DMG. That is insane. You can get 1500-2000hp on the mech so easily.

+2000% dmg increase just like that?? On everything? guns abilities etc?

[rough basin]

does mech benefit from weapon dmg?

[nova bane]

sais he benefits from skill dmg

but this spiritual blessing is very vague it doesnt specify that the dmg is to the mech it just sais gain %dmg which could mean everything

[rough basin]

yeah, one of the ascensions also mentions "100% attack power". kind of the same thing

[nova bane]

the attack power is his dmg stat

if you click tab you can hover his skills and it tells you some details

[rough basin]

ohh indeed, thanks

[nova bane]

from what im getting his attack is 500 and one assention can raise it

and the rest of the things do dmg based on his attack power

and all of it gets booster by skill dmg

and his summon landing does normal dmg so i guess you could boost that too

im not sure if his other hits count as normal dmg as well but they probably do

[rough basin]

the ranged attacks count as Nona secondary ability

[nova bane]

yeah it seems his attack power has no effect on ranged form

[silent osprey]

well, we won't know unless tested. assume +% skill(general) dmg until then.
also, the damage boost scales with the mech's current hp, meaning it deals less damage the less healthy it is.
but if you can keep it healthy, yea it hits like a truck.

[nova bane]

it is very easy to keep it healthy

and the thing is it doesnt have to be full hp for it to already be really powerfull

i had a 2k hp mech and the thing is that even if it was at 500 hp thats still and insane dmg boost. Way better than any other spiritual assention. Still miles better than overconsumpion.

And thats the thing it has double value. If your mech is low and going to die then it can survive and do extra dmg. If its full hp it does a lot more dmg. Its a very powerfull spiritual blessing. Heck if it trully is all dmg. That alone might just give her the best gun build too.

[silent osprey]

it is probably only a +skill dmg. general damage boost are usually referred to additive boosts like +weapon dmg or +skill dmg.

i should probably slightly edit that message kek

[nova bane]

yeah i hope they clarify if thats the case because its just listed as all dmg like dual edge for example

[forest magnet]

sorry if this has been asked but

how does overflowing waters work?

I'm under the impression that it somehow just eats all your secondary charges or something but I can't figure it out

[atomic junco]

if i remember it consumes all of your secondary charges if you use a secondary ability while you have full charges of your secondary and gives you 10% damage per charge used or something like that

[forest magnet]

hmmm

doesn't appear to consume all charges for me but maybe im bugging

[atomic junco]

https://i.imgur.com/RzMWZO0.png

wow that is quite a peddler

i cannot stop myself from picking up the brick every time i see it

it's just SO satisfying

[hushed bronze]

m finally freeee

LETS GOOO GUNFIRE REBORN

which character should I try first

[royal plinth]

not green bird youll get depressed

[hushed bronze]

i never liked green bird

[inner agate]

The owl is crazy strong

[eager eagle]

how exactly does he work the descriptions elude me

[hushed bronze]

playing the mecha hero and that feels strong already

is the fire dragon a injector or pistol? i forgot

[eager eagle]

injector iirc

[hushed bronze]

bro. this melts doe- if only it was Pistol so it would also be buffed by ascensions from red panda/fox?

[ruby oasis]

bro

what is the actual point of nova shockwave for green bird

its useless on leap build

and useless on gun build

like what in the a c t u a l fuck

[hushed bronze]

how do u change the mech between passive/aggresive mode?

[atomic junco]

when you max out your astroaspects, it fills a bar called Astrohouse. you can continuously use his secondary skill to reroll your astroaspects until you have a Pure Astrohouse, empowering your ability. if you get all 3 of the same kind of astroaspect (so blue/purple/orange, and red is equivalent to orange), you get a special boost to your primary based on the quality; a Pure Astrohouse. if there is more than one color of astroaspect, your bar becomes an Impure Astrohouse, providing no bonuses to your primary. If you have empty slots but all of your filled slots are the same color, you will have a chance to get the boost; you can see the chance in how much of the bar is that color.

when you get an Impure Astrohouse, you simply shuffle your Astroaspects by casting another set of cards, hoping to roll a Pure one. The chance to get Pure Astrohouses goes up astronomically over the course of the game with many different ways to manipulate it in your favor. A significant example is the first of his unique talents, which allows him to 'upgrade' the rarity of scrolls only for the purposes of his mechanic which weights the chance of a certain rarity of Astroaspects based on the average rarity of the scrolls he owns, or completely reroll them for a different scroll. He starts with one reroll attempt and gains 2 'upgrades' and 1 reroll per Ascension gained. Over time, this makes the Astroaspects of a much higher average quality than your actual pool of scrolls.

your primary gains one of three effects depending on the kind of Astrohouse you have:

Normal Astrohouse does a small explosion and causes a star to fall on one nearby enemy, as far as I can tell. Good early on but rarely an efficient use of your cooldown later into the game.

Rare Astrohouse initiates a second, much larger explosion that does fair damage, which scales pretty well with some ascensions. Might as well use it; it is most of what you'll get.

Legendary Astrohouse causes a large AoE that continuously ticks damage on all enemies in the area. It does quite a lot of damage; it's good!

The cards themselves can be quite deadly, and you can essentially just become a card warrior too. Each time you cast it, it spawns a set of cards in front of you that will linger, seeking out enemies nearby and dealing damage to them, granting you a chance to fill up your Astrohouse with Astroaspects.

That's most of what I know.```

[quick sapphire]

Oh, new char have no spiritual link combos

[eager eagle]

thank you oh so much

[verbal pine]

any news on the delay for console?

[quartz current]

Just that there's a delay from what I've seen. They're not great at communicating beyond that with console ports unfortunately.

[verbal pine]

Ah, thanks for answering X)

[quartz current]

I wish they'd update them to be more relevant but, well, what I wish doesn't matter to them I'm sure lol. Oh well.

[lilac mist]

wait the mech can revive you?!?

[thorny basalt]

And vice versa

[quartz current]

Doing God's work with that writeup. I'd pin if I could.

[mossy sequoia]

I basically have at this point, I exist in #other-games and #off-topic

[hushed bronze]

wtf I went with 2055 into a stage and arrived with 5520 that roulette card

ez

if only i had the scroll where every 100 copper = 2% damage, man

[hushed bronze]

god brick. surely

[serene kestrel]

brick is just top tier weapon

its so goofy

[agile girder]

noona is perfect for singleplayer, her mecha can draw agroo

[hushed bronze]

dw I made the brick even more insane 20.0 critx

[hushed bronze]

omg just cleared stage four for the first time ever.. with brick only- two achievements in one and reinc 6 now

[willow widget]

So i have a question
Let’s say i have three astroaspect slots
When i gather three astroaspect
Does it automatically fill the astrohouse bar or i have to do something manually?

[atomic junco]

the astrohouse bar is just a direct reflection of the contents of your astroaspect slots

you don't interact with it except to fill it by getting astroaspects

[willow widget]

Contents of my astroaspect slot?
Can you give me an eẽample? I’m kinda lost on this one

[atomic junco]

basically the loop is:
press secondary ability to fill slots with scrolls, with a chance to be one of 4 qualities based on the average quality of your scrolls

try to fill slots with all of the same color, or as many of the same color as you can get without filling it

once you have at least a couple slots of the same color, you can use your primary and have a chance to get a bonus based on how many of that color are in your slots

if you have more than one color in your slots, you get nothing

if you have all your slots full with the same color, you're guaranteed that rarity's benefit

that's the long and short of how his ability works

so:
you have 1 of 3 slots with a blue and 2 empty slots. now, if you use your primary, it empties all your slots and has a 1/3 chance to do a boosted attack, or a basic cast with no bonus. either way, when you use your ability the slots all empty.

you have 3 of 3 slots with orange. you now have a 100% chance to get the extra effect from orange rarity astroaspects when you use you primary.

you have 2 of purple and 1 of blue, or 2 of orange and 1 of purple, or 1 of each, you get nothing. always basic cast.

[willow widget]

Oh
So the bar is just displaying the chance of getting that color’s effect?

[atomic junco]

yes

[willow widget]

Ah i see now

Thank you so much

His kit is much clearer now

[versed shell]

this is almost as confusing as the owl's abilities

[proud fable]

When you go into a new stage, the highest number in your copper amount will become 1

Then the rest of the digits will shuffle around

So 9167 would become 1167

Then the last 3 digits would shuffle

so you could get 1167, 1617, or 1761

[versed shell]

ohhh got it ty

I love your pfp btw

[proud fable]

Ty lmao

Soki made it

yours isnt bad either

d o g g o

[versed shell]

yes

ty

[naive kraken]

thoughts on engineer so far? I'm kinda unedrwhlemed by Iron Wing, though i'be been only testing out Strike Mode so idk how well Fire mode is. The only thing I feel dealing devent dmg right now is the Ult+Self Destruct combo

[proud fable]

huh

Strike mode is working great for me

Especially if you just hide behind a wall

it just runs around and destroys everyone

However I've heard fire mode is really good

[naive kraken]

yea though I havent been able to get level 3 Mastery which for Strike Mode which is a huge dmg boost so maybe thats why.

[proud fable]

level 3 mastery?

ah

the ascension

I dont have it either

just take pair of us and then hide behind a wall

[marsh grove]

elite rooms on stage 2 are currently a 90% run killer for any of the group I go with.

[proud fable]

its just shitty ascension luck then

[hushed bronze]

Owl has to be the most complex character yet hmm

still fun asf

[ruby oasis]

okay so

eventually all or nothing ceases to work

im not sure why

[prisma pelican]

owl card builds seem decent but overall he feels kinda weak

my main gripe so far is that falling star seems kinda...bad

like it takes a TON of input and doesn't do a ton of output

[mossy sequoia]

Petition to remove the astro parts

[prisma pelican]

the bar represents probability of output when you use your primary ability

so if it's like, half full of purple, then you have a 50% chance of a rare falling star if you use it

[devout zenith]

Which rarity do you guys recommend to do owl portrait?

Epic or legendary

[bronze crater]

i think that's a matter of taste
i personally did this with legendary scrolls on R8
(i got really lucky at the start by getting Phantom Skin by reroll in first vault)

[devout zenith]

Which build you recommend?

All in on cards?

[bronze crater]

yea, card build worked out

make sure to have endless assault as the starting blessing if you use lone wolf

he really needs it

[opal geyser]

im guessing people have already been talking about this but nonas mech being able to revive you is pretty silly

[bronze crater]

and if you want to use interdependant fortunes, don't forget that you can skip scroll choices by pressing Esc

[devout zenith]

Whats endless assault?

[bronze crater]

spiritual blessing - double secondary skill stock, and regain 1 charge every 3 seconds

so you never run out of cards

[proud fable]

common tf

You can upgrade ur scrolls and reroll them

You can get things like double exhil, surprise bonus, enduring caster, evil banishing, untold effort, etc if you go with common

Being able to get commons and rares is better than rares and legendaries imo

[bronze crater]

yea, it's up for the player to decide which ones do they want

i just stuck with the first option that i got xD

and it worked out due to incredible luck

[proud fable]

yeah

[bronze crater]

(also got dual edge in act 4 from interdependant fortunes xD)

[proud fable]

Act 4 tho lmao

Legendries are good, and there are plenty of ones that benefit skill builds

but they're rather hard to get and heavily luck based

Plus you can't get like, any spiritual links

[bronze crater]

yeah, i had spirit bible + that new thing that boosts skill and weapon dmg after primary skill and weapon skill (forgot the name)

[bronze crater]

sacred aura (backup shield + heavy shield + spirit feline)

i got enhanced spirit feline in act 1 from phantom peddler xD

[proud fable]

thats like, the only one

[bronze crater]

yea

[proud fable]

Jesus christ

Your luck is off the charts

[bronze crater]

that moment i knew that i wouldn't need to lower the difficulty xD

i believe i still have the run record, will prolly show it tomorrow once i get into the game

[proud fable]

ok

[devout zenith]

Is nightmare of reincarnation easier to do thjs

[bronze crater]

R1 is easier than nightmare imo

since you unlock blessings + bizarre dream modifiers

[proud fable]

Yep

Nightmare is actually the hardest difficulty in the game

[devout zenith]

Which bizarre dream is the best for this type of run?

[bronze crater]

all modifiers (except the new weapons one) xD

[prisma pelican]

what exactly is the downside to transcendent arsenal

it seems. incredibly overpowered?

[devout zenith]

Really? Joku one seems to make the run harder

[bronze crater]

it enables all flavor from R8 (elite gathering mainly)

and elite gathering gives you a free goblet + legendary scroll

[prisma pelican]

yeah jokul gives huge bonus loot

[devout zenith]

Would you guys take skill freak or explosive hand ?

[proud fable]

explosive hand

then SF

[proud fable]

I'm pretty sure it makes the vault harder or smth

Oh yeah

it lets all vaults have a demonic aura diffusion

[devout zenith]

But If I upgrade them dont I loose the achievement?

[proud fable]

ah u might be right

let me look at the scrolls

Hmmm

I take it back

Legendary would be best because you can just upgrade purple scrolls to get spirit bible, riches privileges, extrav consumption, etc

[halcyon thicket]

16 cursed scrolls (also had evil devouring sword + talisman)

[proud fable]

If ur evil devouring sword was enhanced

That is some big damag

[devout zenith]

How do I use the upgrade scrolls?

I can only use the reset

[halcyon thicket]

sadly it wasn't

[quick sapphire]

Very happy with tao + jet octopus

Does a loooot of damage with secondary, primary target all enemies in range for things like giant slayers

Excellent weapon imho, it felt a bit weak in A1/2 but it pick up speed in A3

[prisma pelican]

holy fucking shit okay, card builds are NUTS if you build them right

just killed ichytosaurus before it was able to play an animation via walking into it

[devout zenith]

Yeah cards are op

Too bad his skill is completely ass

LMAO

For nona achievement do you guys that the mecha build better is the ranged or melee form?

[prisma pelican]

owl cards is the single strongest build in the entire game holy fucking shit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/95294444298838016/1113963524285288568/2023-06-01_18-52-42.mp4

oh no embed

uh

[prisma pelican]

#gunfire-videos message

there

[exotic cobalt]

ok

I've reread this like 20 times

Gain a stack, the stack is +10% damage (can stack 10 times to go up to 100).

Gain a stack after reloading

but also- stacks reset after reloading...?

[proud fable]

you probably get your stacks cleared after reloading

then get given one

[exotic cobalt]

then..

...

=-=?...

[proud fable]

idk

[exotic cobalt]

is it then - it gives you 1 stack for every 10% ammo consumed?

so you fresh-reload from 0

gain 1

don't fire a bullet, gain 5 more cause 50% = 5 more stacks, so you gain 60

and you need some form of ammo-regeneration scrolls to keep it going above 50% so it keeps consuming for more stacks?

I feel like this scroll could be worded better

now trying to reword it to make it better- I can see how it is convoluted to begin with 😓

Honestly, they could make do with removing the unnecessary "Gains a stack after reloading", and just have the first line say "+10% Weapon Damage".

Then chain off that with "Gain an additional +10% (Up to a maximum of 100%) for every 10% of Magazine ammo consumed by this scroll every second, until ammo is <50%."

[thorny parcel]

If the magazine is above 50% or 1, lose 10% ammo in the magazine and gain +10% Weapon DMG (up to +100%) every second. Bonus resets when reloading.

[exotic cobalt]

True, but they also need to ensure the user knows it requires the ammo lost in order for the buff to be gained...

[thorny parcel]

That's the first bit.

[exotic cobalt]

I mean - I love what they did with the scroll, I now mentally get it... but they also made a scroll convoluted to a point where ye gotta read 3 sentences XD

excuse me- 4*

[thorny parcel]

If the magazine is below 50%, you don't lose ammo, you don't gain damage.

[exotic cobalt]

I've been trying to figure out like... who'd benefit from this

I suppose Tiger 'n like... a bloody drill

[thorny parcel]

Tao with Ammo Extractor.

Everyone with Against the Flow.

Turtle with Hostile Gift.

[exotic cobalt]

eh...

Against the flow isn't that strong enough for certain guns

especially if you are bunny with fire-rate increase ascensions

[thorny parcel]

Her ascensions also lower ammo consumed.

[exotic cobalt]

or Ao with 100% ammo consumption during ability

oo- in game it seems to have a different description for this-

so they say "Max copper" - meaning the limit of copper?... There was a limit before?

or do they force the limit to 9876 from a higher number

I guess to prevent the scroll from permuting a 5 digit number

you'd go nuts if the copper could go from 10,583 to 53,100

Makes sense I guess o, o

But there goes my dreams of hitting a billion damage with just one Ao grenade and rich's privilages :<

[thorny parcel]

Technically the limit before was 65535, the integer limit.

[exotic cobalt]

(note, that was not a dream of mine)

Also huh o ,o

HIghest copper I ever owned was like... ... I think 12k?... 11k?

That'd be a lovely statistic tracked in the "Player Information" page o- o

Highest amount of copper held at one moment

[thorny parcel]

For most intents and purposes, the cap doesn't matter.

And if the cap did matter, you either had too much copper anyway or your were probably hitting the damage cap with whatever it was boosting.

[exotic cobalt]

But

Number go up

Me want big number

[thorny parcel]

How do you think the game got in this state in the first place?

[exotic cobalt]

Big number of sales cuz game deserves it .3.

[devout zenith]

Whats the red panda guys frame requisites again?

Do I need to defeat the bear

Or just boat/serpent is enough?

[exotic cobalt]

It should say the requirement on the frame no? . ,.

?

Dis one?

[devout zenith]

i'm in the middle of a run cant see it and wiki doesnt have it yet

[exotic cobalt]

It is dat one then

[devout zenith]

SO I need to beat the polar bear? Or he doesnt count as a stage?

[exotic cobalt]

I suppose you could leave after serpent... given the wording

[unkempt pulsar]

Well it does say all stages so I guess it'd be safe to assume it also means the final one.

[exotic cobalt]

I can't be the only one to read this darn owl(?)s abilities and be royally and utterly confused... right?

[unkempt pulsar]

You are not. I have no idea what any of it means. I just know that I have never felt this bad playing the game.

[exotic cobalt]

lol

[unkempt pulsar]

Call me a casual or something. But it really feels like the Owl just doesn't work.

[exotic cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-wait-a-second-wait-whoa-there-what-did-i-just-see-gif-13900813

[unkempt pulsar]

Furthest I got with how it is supposed to work is match three. If you can get your matches before you run out of cards.

And anything below purple bad.

[exotic cobalt]

so from what I can tell - Cursed = Wildcard. WIldcards = Legendary. Legendary sound gud

so obtain many curses, talisman, and sword

and it's good ... questionmark?

[unkempt pulsar]

That is what people have said I think?

[thorny parcel]

Wildcards are anything.

Or legendary otherwise.

If you have a bunch of Rare and a Wild, the Wild will pretend to be a Rare.

[exotic cobalt]

Ye know - certain games have it to where you hover over an ability (like MMORPGs of sorts) - and it shows like... an example of what is to come of the ability .... a part of me is just thinking like how hearthstone shows the different damage stages of an animation. They could show like... how good X is, how good Y is, etc

I feel like this damn ability has to be the first one with an example video when I mouse over it 😅

in terms of - needing one

I guess it doesn't help how 2 lines of that ability (in terms of room) is taken up due to the ability name itself being long

"Astroaspects" and "Astrohouse", if we removed all of those the 8-lined description would go to a 4-5 lined description

[unkempt pulsar]

As far as descriptions go I think it'd be easier to just straight up say that match three. Actually I am pretty sure descriptions fail to kind of mention that all together.

[exotic cobalt]

I guess they want you to think poker in a sense?

[novel knoll]

Nona's ult feels like a portable BT from Titanfall lol.

[exotic cobalt]

Ok now we need a trust me reference with it

or somebody just edit the model out to meme it with this new character in titanfall

"Trust me-" YEET

[unkempt pulsar]

I'd pay for a separate DLC to just be yeeted to final stage.

[exotic cobalt]

lol

[novel knoll]

Did they add the spicy bois as an enemy too?

[exotic cobalt]

"If you have Nona in the group, you can throw the entire team up to the final stage"

[unkempt pulsar]

Sounds like a good time.

[novel knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/titanfall-titanfall2-spicy-chef-boi-gif-18617702

[unkempt pulsar]

That's a spicy tick.

[exotic cobalt]

but

is it a loot tick

[unkempt pulsar]

Okay. I need to stop playing the owl. My brain and other parts cannot handle it. Especially with the upgrade feature apparently missing.

Well pilot might explode with joy if it had a golden kraber for sure.

[exotic cobalt]

lol

Tiger comes across a loot tick in Gunfire

Golden Kraber

now I'm just imagining the entire apex legends group as playable characters in gunfire... lol. Bloodhound would be cool

y'know ngl... I can totally see literally every single character having their utility and ultimate's put into the game.

well.... maybe not pathfinder

[unkempt pulsar]

Somewhat. Although some would need to be quite heavily modified.

Exactly what I had in mind saying that.

[exotic cobalt]

lol

But like

Wraith right? Shoves a portal - can connect the start of one timed trial to the end of it to speed things along

maybe during the usage of the portal, you heal, deal damage to enemies within the path, and reload guns

and the phasing is just a mode of getting out of a sticky situation - that could totally have synergies of like releasing stacks of kills/damage/headshots upon phasing

[devout zenith]

You guys have any tips to get the sonic frame?

I've tried soo hard but cant seem to get enough speed

[exotic cobalt]

. , .' ... s..onic frame? .,.

[unkempt pulsar]

There is a sonic frame?

[devout zenith]

the headhog

[exotic cobalt]

o h

🤣

There's a few ascensions that'd help

oh waitwaitwait-

Ye basically want to obtain the dash distance increase (enhanced) scroll that giveths more dashes, dash cooldown, a few ascensions that keep the punches rolling like dis one

but honestly, the best thing is to play through reincarnation.

due to enhancing

n whatnot ., .

Honestly I think I accidentally achieved that frame

play turtle enuff in reincarnation, getting the reflect-everything-and-annihilate-rooms-like-a-miniature-reinhardt build of sorts and it just happens if ye punch someone with teh right setup

[devout zenith]

Alright thnx

[exotic cobalt]

Can I point out how now we are being invaded by birbs?

we have 2 birbs.

I guess we technically have 2 felines

we need 2 doggos now

[unkempt pulsar]

We have two birbs and two felines.

So yea. We need two dogs now.

[exotic cobalt]

There is a lack of doggo

Also

You're welcome to steal the idea from me devs if you see this random message (and if, for some reason, it was never thought of)

but a big ol chameleon

yer welcome. -3-

They could have abilities akin to Borderlands Zer0, or other cloaking-like characters from other games

Cloak 'n Dagger

or in the chameleon's case, Camoflauge and Sabotage

but also another doggo pls

[vapid onyx]

maybe an ability to go invisible with a ‘charging’ time, and then upon using an attack the invisibility resets and the attack deals way more extra damage?

[exotic cobalt]

Yus

Zer0 all the way

Specializes in Melee weapons

[vapid onyx]

or maybe a backstab ability

[exotic cobalt]

Any damage dealt to the back of the enemy deals +100% more damage, modifiable by ascensions

[vapid onyx]

the new DLC characters are great btw

[exotic cobalt]

Doing backstab damage causes enemies to aggro towards you - modifiable by ascensions

Like "If target dies within .5 seconds of being damaged, recloak and refresh duration"

[vapid onyx]

i would think that the entire point of a stealth character would be to reduce aggro

but if that’s to counter the buff of invisibility then fair

[exotic cobalt]

Yus, but at the same time - their passive gives them more damage, and the most damaging player draws the gunfire

[vapid onyx]

like, if you can’t kill an enemy you’re immediately targeted so you have to be smart about it

or careful

[exotic cobalt]

(Hence why certain enemies seem to target your teammates too often sometimes, and other times just focus on you)

Tis not just completely random

[vapid onyx]

people who play with me hate me a little xD

i usually clear areas before they can catch up

[exotic cobalt]

turtle chad user?

[vapid onyx]

nope

never used em

[exotic cobalt]

Ao bai Nukes?

(as in, grenade spam)

[vapid onyx]

i usually use the monke, and the new DLC characters

[exotic cobalt]

ah

[vapid onyx]

they’re the ones that fit for me

[exotic cobalt]

Nothing beats Ao Bai nuclear warfare

assuming you get everything perfect for him

He walks into a room like "What up- I got a big stock" - of grenades

[vapid onyx]

all of their E abilities are executions basically, and essence chain is good area damage while the new owl’s cards are good steady (and homing) damage

[thorny parcel]

At this point, if there's any reason why Atomic Bomb gets beaten, it's because another build can one-shot enemies faster and more consistently.

[exotic cobalt]

XD ^

T r u e

[vapid onyx]

never played Ao Bai xD

[exotic cobalt]

omg

are u up in reincarnation

I'm down to attempt to get that build 2-3 times with ye today if you want

and to mess around with the new scrolls

[vapid onyx]

depends what timezone you’re in

im UK

rn it’s almost 2am qwq

[exotic cobalt]

I'm in the US, but my sleep schedule is so screwed - it's illegal

[vapid onyx]

hmm

i was considering streaming the new DLC tomorrow today

but it depends on a friend’s availability, might just hang out with ppl

but i’m down to play anytime i’m free

[exotic cobalt]

There's times in which you're free? Sweet. Wasn't lookin' to spend more money anyways.

wait where's that drum file... hold up

[vapid onyx]

💀

you’re my friend now

[exotic cobalt]

Here we go, courtesy of Mishu- https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/565010674564988930/1113143613896011907/RPReplay_Final1682460487.mov

[vapid onyx]

lmao garageband

[exotic cobalt]

from here: #memes-and-more message

[vapid onyx]

i still use that to produce music

can’t wait to get an actual DAW and setup but that’ll be years

[quartz current]

The worst part about this update is now the fact there's a billion weapons when all I want is

[vapid onyx]

lmaoooo

[exotic cobalt]

LOL

BRICK

[vapid onyx]

i’ve seen that weapon around

haven’t tried it yet but it was hilarious seeing it

[quartz current]

Want a brick dual wield build and didn't find a 2nd brick this is bullshit

[exotic cobalt]

wait

[vapid onyx]

b r i c k

[exotic cobalt]

ok hold p

[quartz current]

I'm sad

[exotic cobalt]

hold up

now I feel like I'm standing on the wrong metaphorical platform

is the brick actually legit?

[quartz current]

Yes

[exotic cobalt]

WHAT?!?

IT'S REAL???

[vapid onyx]

it’s a real weapon in the game, yes 🤣

[exotic cobalt]

OH MY F*%AWNG GOD

I THOUGHT IT WAS A REALLY WELL MADE MEME

I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A MEME

IT'S REAL!!?!?!?!

[vapid onyx]

yup

[exotic cobalt]

omfg-

I think I woke up the neighbors

I was baffled

I yelled "IT'S REAL?!"

[vapid onyx]

oh damn it’s CritX is actually rlly good

might pick up the brick for the combined CritX gemini inscription when possible

what’s your favourite weapons?

[exotic cobalt]

According to the player information

or my preferences? :p

[vapid onyx]

your preferences?

[exotic cobalt]

Honestly

and this may be a hot take

so bear with me

[vapid onyx]

i don’t judge

look at my pfp

[exotic cobalt]

my favorite gun, that I'd love to use if it rolled good

[vapid onyx]

am i rlly in the position to judge? xD

[exotic cobalt]

Goshawk

and NOT for the auto-aim exclusive

[vapid onyx]

that’s fine

[exotic cobalt]

but that can get nutty

[vapid onyx]

mine is scorching rounds

[exotic cobalt]

You know whawt

I'd be surprised if you can guess the one gun

I'd love to find with perfect inscriptions

with the tiger.

I'll give a hint, no snipers.

[vapid onyx]

Lei Luo

uhhh

[exotic cobalt]

There is one gun - that I've had the lucky chance of trying a specific build - once

and I was addicted

[vapid onyx]

i’m terrible at guessing, and not knowing the names to most the weapons doesn’t help xD

[exotic cobalt]

I want to try it again

You don't gotta say the name of the gun

just what the gun "is"

[vapid onyx]

any more hints?

[exotic cobalt]

it wouldn't be impressive if I give any more -u -

I'll tell you - I don't....

Honestly, I may be ballsy enough to say this

I don't think any Lei Luo main has ever done the build I did.

There - I said it

[vapid onyx]

man

ima just get up a wheel with all the weapons (excluding snipers and melees)

brb

[exotic cobalt]

In terms of effectiveness, this build is not in the top 5 easily. But god damn I felt good

[vapid onyx]

sunder?

[exotic cobalt]

Yes. 🤣

[vapid onyx]

yoooo

no wayyyyy

🤯🤯

[ruby oasis]

can anyone tell me where i can find this talent for qing yan in game?

i have reason to believe this just doesnt exist

[gloomy tundra]

Anyone know how to do the in-backpack upgrade stated in the Talents of Zi Xiao?

[thorny parcel]

Mistranslation. It doesn't exist.

It actually changed Recharge Shot's Armor recovery cap from 6/s to 12/s.

[rose talon]

Least busted dog run

wait they removed the ascencion that allowed you to turn armor into damage on qing yan?

[thorny parcel]

Yes, but it's now a blessing.

This not only makes it locked to Reincarnation, but if you want a reasonable chance of getting it you must reroll for it at the start, while also breaking your Armor through Longling Tomb while having poor recovery.

[rose talon]

bruh that makes support bird so much worse in assault.
whyyyyyyyyy

[thorny parcel]

Because Birb is the only one who is allowed to get even slightly nerfed.

[grave umbra]

So, is there no chance at all we'll ever get dual-wield swords on dog?

[thorny parcel]

At the moment, no chance.

Closest you're gonna get is 2 spears.

Or 2 bricks.

[forest mural]

anyone understand how this works? i cant figure out if the bar or the 3 boxes are the astral house, its all just so confusing

[rose talon]

probably because the animations would overlap so much

[tacit iron]

New to the game. Can someone point me to a good Tao guide?

[broken kraken]

i kinda get owl but what does the bar represent

[vernal apex]

So I'm curious: how is the GDQ run going to go now that bird got a decent number of changes in the new update?

[broken kraken]

it glows pretty color so I press button and it does more damage

#1055550986292297838 message
Ah, ok so I guess the strat is to dump your hand if probability is low to start off with

[agile girder]

when will the new spirit assault map drop?

is there a date?

i thoughbt it would come with the dlc update

[swift torrent]

whats the highest dmg you guys got on owl?

[rich harbor]

does brick have higher crit than strike wing

[thorny parcel]

No.

[hushed bronze]

no, but aay higher base damage though

[rich harbor]

oh icic

cause i saw someone using 2 bricks

[hushed bronze]

just pair it with a strike wing gemini shared critx and slap gradual improvement on (if youre lei) easily 20+ critx

[rich harbor]

instead of brick and strike wing

ah icic thanks

[hushed bronze]

chad player

[rich harbor]

fr

[quartz current]

Dual wield bricks is extremely fun

Is it good? Uh, not particularly in terms of other dual wield builds. But it's fun.

[rich harbor]

he did it on tiger

[quartz current]

GI brick 🔩

[mellow pawn]

does anyone know if the steam version can play crossplatform with mobile?

i wanted to know if i can play the game with my friend who use chromeos

[gusty mountain]

there's no crossplay for steam version

Plus it's ahead of all of the other versions.

[vernal violet]

My thoughts on Nona after seeing the teaser
Nona ≈ Gaige
After playing her
Nona ≈ 1/2 * Gaige + 1/3 * Axton + 1/6 * FL4K

[grave umbra]

2 bricks... Yes.

That does satisfy some primal urges in my brain

[hushed bronze]

dual wield brick sounds amazingly fun

[peak widget]

On the owls frame, do cursed scrolls count as a failure if im using purples?

aka, do cursed scrolls classify as another quality?

[mossy sequoia]

Stinky ew

[exotic cobalt]

Cursed Scrolls = Wildcards

Aka. They'll be anything to fit a combination.

[mossy sequoia]

also, wow I just read the Birb changes

they hate him

[exotic cobalt]

4 cursed scrolls = Legendary effect