When enhanced they will always have 200%, 300% or 400% HP. Never less, and never bypassable with direct-to-HP effects.
#All Platforms
thorny parcel
craggy valve
Tried it once
4 princes
Just spamming grenades
Then one died at wind god
All the others tried to rez and died
I tried to rez and died too
near nexus
u need to spam corrosive more
craggy valve
Also
One of them had 16 deaths, but only 4 stacks of debuff
I had 8 and 8 stacks
Why is that
craggy valve
Oh
harsh wagon
Listen to Shaxx, throw more grenades
dull canopy
gusty mountain
They're tanky. Have you ever fought an elite lobster in which its HP was regening?
I will never forget that run.
The issue with lobsters is that they are range. Dealing with them with other elites that chase you down can be overwhelming.
Also its large fireball has a small hitbox which can make it hard to shoot down sometimes.
rocky wraith
When enhanced they will always have 200%, 300% or 400% HP. Never less, and never...
this is pain 
harsh wagon
proud fable
They're tanky. Have you ever fought an elite lobster in which its HP was regenin...
Doesnt its hp only regen if you haven't hit it or theres another healing monster nearby
Just put a foundry shot into it
gusty mountain
I was running weapon build
proud fable
Oh ok
gusty mountain
and a foundry wouldn't do squat
It was HP regening somehow.
It had corrosion enhancement.
proud fable
Probably a healing monster nearby
proud fable
It had corrosion enhancement.
Just stay away from it
proud fable
Other attribute?
gusty mountain
Defensive or somethin, it was tanky.
wait that's the other attribute
The other attribute doesn't matter.
There's only 4 and none of them have any healing effect.
The only healing monsters were Elite Monks. It was an elite gathering event.
2 Elite Monks and 3 Elite Lobsters.
They all had some elemental enhancement.
They were healing without the Monks doing their large AoE attack.
silent osprey
maybe the 3 lobster are together and at least one of them has the Healing enhancement?
thorny parcel
Elite Monks have a different "lifesteal aura" attack, but it doesn't look like one.
It's when they teleport near an enemy and begin doing their song and dance, but there is no attack indicator, because it's not supposed to hurt players. It's supposed to heal enemies.
So it's possible that they were actually healing the lobsters, it just wasn't obvious at the time because you expect a giant circle of red.
proud fable
Elite Monks have a different "lifesteal aura" attack, but it doesn't look like o...
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh
That would be it
quartz current
I'm sure there's a higher number out there for Fatal Bloom damage (likely w/Enhanced Sandals), but I cheesed a run to have Skill Freak, Blossom Enthus, Armed Caster, and Overconsumption just to see where we're at with the power creep.
Had a blossom apparently tick for 1.8mil.
Armed Caster certainly is...something.
thorny parcel
You would've been better off replacing either Overconsumption or Armed Caster with Thorny Bloom.
Especially because Overconsumption and Armed Caster are both additive with general damage bonuses and each other.
That and Thorny Bloom is +1200% base DMG.
Unless you have over 24x CritX, you're not even beating that number, let alone the actual bonus.
harsh wagon
probably the best run I've had with birb that isn't lantern farming
quartz current
You would've been better off replacing either Overconsumption or Armed Caster wi...
Forgot to mention I already had that.
Accidentally typed Overconsumption instead.
pine trout
guess thorny bloom + skill freak is the most OP start, then you luck out with overconsumption and armed caster?
I've kinda embraced the power creep and just look for interesting ways to obliterate everything now
thorny parcel
"Interesting" is debatable. It's more like looking for ways to use junk to one-shot everything.
Or just the same thing over and over otherwise.
quartz current
I do it some runs just to see what "the bar" can be.
But I'd agree typically I find more satisfaction in challenging myself.
near nexus
noice
pine trout
nice
still waiting for a good Piercing Flame run, seems that no matter how stacked it is it always ends up being a bit underwhelming
maiden magnet
bruh I just breezed through a reincarnation level 8 run by doing nothing but spamming tidal aspis on qian sui
I was pretty much invincible
I had capacity overdraft but for some reason I wasn't taking damage. I kept on spamming without getting punished for it.
pine trout
reincarnation moment
modest fulcrum
First Completed Solo RE 8 run yay
modern sorrel
I just nearly gave myself carpal tunnel playing Spiritual Assault, my hands hurt
thorny parcel
Let's just say, Spiritual Assault is not designed for level 60.
Or players with the know-how who've reached that level, at least.
modern sorrel
I'm lv110 or so and I... really have no idea how you're supposed to reasonably make it past the first, let alone second third of the mode. Me and a friend made it to the final assault wave, but we got swarmed by infinite Monks and Spirits and our weapons ended up doing next to no damage.
...not to mention the framerate.
It gives very nice Soul Essence but honestly, the stress and sheer enemy density aren't fun to me...
thorny parcel
It's very very possible, you just need to know what you're doing at its current difficulty level.
It used to be harder, especially for multiplayer.
Dunno why they haven't added difficulty settings, honestly.
modern sorrel
It used to be what
It's already unreasonable...
Oh, also, is it just me or are none of the mode's Challenge Events translated?
thorny parcel
It only seems unreasonable because its got higher difficulty than most of the game and takes away multiplayer revive spamming by default. Eventually you'll have the skill and knowledge to beat it.
As for the events, it's translated for English at least.
modern sorrel
Weird, not on my end. All the text is Chinese.
Me and my friend, for reference, are fairly comfortable on Elite difficulty -- we can do Normal reliably
thorny parcel
Maybe the latest bug patch broke the translations. I dunno.
thorny parcel
Me and my friend, for reference, are fairly comfortable on Elite difficulty -- w...
Ah see, that's the problem.
You need to be comfortable on at least Nightmare.
High skill game mode, don't know why it unlocks at level 60.
Here's a tip though. Use weapons and skills with AoEs to make it much easier. They are way more useful in SA compared to the main game.
modern sorrel
Oh yup, my friend discovered that the Bone Dragon is obscenely useful in that mode
thorny parcel
Oh and some spiritual jades (those coloured blocks you pick before starting) are way better than others.
Though you might not have some of them unlocked.
modern sorrel
Yeah, I don't have... quite a few of them. I noticed that some of them seem situational at best.
thorny parcel
Some of those situations are great however.
modern sorrel
thorny parcel
Put that one in #1060159100006178816, because that's not supposed to be like that.
thorny parcel
Some of those situations are great however.
For example, +3m AoE for launchers sounds rather restrictive, as what if you want to use other weapons?
But when you use the launchers, oh boy does that extra AoE count!
Way better than stuff like extra magazine capacity for rifles.
modern sorrel
Done.
thorny parcel
Other jades that are better include any of the [Weapon] Scavenger ones, giving you a specific weapon every 50 kills, which are all better than Arsenal Raider, which just gives any weapon every 5 levels.
Specific weapons synergizes better with certain builds, and 50 enemies are way more common than 5 levels.
Then you just have some which are better on power alone, like Chromatic Magazine.
No idea why they buffed it to what it is.
modern sorrel
I also just struggle with the mode in general because I like high accuracy playstyles. Crit hits.
Too many targets to feasibly do that...
gilded roost
Then you just have some which are better on power alone, like Chromatic Magazine...
when your best weapon is mashing reload
downside: gonna give myself carpal tunnel
(hi, Arri mentioned a friend, I am she)
thorny parcel
Don't need to get carpel tunnel if you use a weapon that uses its magazine real fast.
Like Tiger Cannon, Bone Dragon, Angelic Aura, Wild Hunt...
modern sorrel
excusez-moi?
thorny parcel
Yep, that looks about right.
You brought a way to inflict lots of damage or Miasma, right?
maiden magnet
best sniper for crown prince?
modern sorrel
You brought a way to inflict lots of damage or Miasma, right?
neither of us is really sure what's going on (My friend is streaming)
thorny parcel
Well probably the most important thing to mention is that non-crits from most weapons do almost no damage.
Gotta aim for his crit spots, which you gotta find because it's not his head.
maiden magnet
best sniper for crown prince?
any ideas?
thorny parcel
any ideas?
Some people would say Piercing Flame due to being fire damage with high Burn chance, but the damage is sorta meh.
modern sorrel
...19 million health is way overkill, especially for solo...
gusty mountain
meh
thorny parcel
That amount is equivalent to the highest difficulty.
Definitely not for level 60 players.
gusty mountain
Is that SA?
thorny parcel
It is.
Gluttony gets 19.2 mil in SA.
Pole Monarch gets 19.5 mil on the highest difficulty.
gusty mountain
Wonder what difficulty SA ends on.
thorny parcel
Highest.
In multiplayer, R8 (and maybe R7) receive double the Health bonuses from additional players, going from 100%, 500%, 900% and 1300%.
This also applies to Gluttony.
proud fable
Highest.
Ohh does it start on normal
then when assault gets fiercer
it goes to elite
gusty mountain
yes
thorny parcel
I think it goes elite after the first elite group.
That's when enhanced enemies start appearing.
gusty mountain
Its difficulty is "normal reincarnation."
proud fable
Its difficulty is "normal reincarnation."
R1?
proud fable
I think it goes elite after the first elite group.
ah alright
proud fable
could just mean it goes from normal to reincarnation.
there's kinda 8 reincarnations
gusty mountain
yeah
It definitely doesn't stop at R1.
And most of them are probably skipped.
There doesn't need to be 8 difficulties of reincarnation.
proud fable
ig so
gilded roost
I diiiiid it
that fight took like 20 minutes even with me hammering weak points when available
closer to 25 actually
crystal saddle
love refresh addict + occult booster
crystal saddle
na its slow it was lone wolf x 4
but ideally im trying to get the tao spd run on just r8 😄
modest fulcrum
My RE8 was still 1+ hour long, gonna have to do better along the road
proud fable
tao blossom is just the quickest really
Blade of bloom even better
modest fulcrum
I've only done solo re8 on the starter cat prince (i forgot the name), haven't finished solo re8 on tao yet
I mean I've only finished one solo re8 so, still working on it
gusty mountain
Blade of bloom even better
Not really.
Especially if they were running spores.
Let alone blossom blessing doesn't proc blade of bloom.
proud fable
Let alone blossom blessing doesn't proc blade of bloom.
Yeah I know
But blade of bloom
when you make a swords out build
is crazy
gusty mountain
Swords Out and Blade of Bloom don't really work with each other since any ascension related to Swords Out directly doesn't affect Blade of Bloom. It's either one or the other.
proven sage
not sword defense nor Shadow something doesn’t but the rest do
gusty mountain
Yeah but if you're running Swords Out, Sword Shadow is pretty much a must have.
thorny parcel
By proxy, Warlike Blade won't affect it either.
quartz current
Mmmmm Warlike Blade. Now this is fine dining.
RoF buffs on slower weapons has been my interest lately. It's fun having a Fire Tower swoosh quickly. Granted Warlike is kinda terrible for slower weapons but Wildfire tho 🔥
gusty mountain
I love how quickly you can get a FT to swing in SA.
proud fable
Swords Out and Blade of Bloom don't really work with each other since any ascens...
Swords out ascensions work with blade of bloom though
So 100% flying sword damage does double the damage caused by swords summoned by BoB
gusty mountain
That's not a Swords Out ascension, it just affects flying swords.
If you're making a Swords Out build chances are you'd be rarely using blade of bloom.
It's just not really worth it.
thorny parcel
Epic Swordcraft, Amplified Sword, Furious Wave, Sword Enthusiast and Sword Guard apply to all flying swords.
Luminous Heart applies to Swords Out, plus Blade of Bloom by proxy.
Sword Shadow, Sword Defense and half of No Escape only apply to Swords Out.
Warlike Blade only applies to Swords Out by proxy.
proud fable
That's not a Swords Out ascension, it just affects flying swords.
My bad, its a blade manipulation thingy
proud fable
HoB?
thorny parcel
Hail of Bullets.
proud fable
Ah
And FT is fire tower
yeah that does seem busted
you just get like 4x the amount of swings you normally get
or no
4x less ammo consumption
proven sage
that part does not work without swaping weapon on reaload
but the dmg is now active under the same condition as Priemtive strike
proud fable
alr
gusty mountain
Hmm, does energy blade apply to all hits of ghost's skill?
thorny parcel
Most likely.
Though gotta remember you still need to hit 12 times with regular attacks to get one.
So it might sound cool, but a Fire Tower bonk would be more readily available.
And doesn't need element share for extra Combustion since you got smokes.
You know Li might be able to make use of it in a similar fashion if it wasn't for her skills overshadowing her weapons.
Since Molten Meteor is up to +450% weapon DMG and +60% elemental effect chance.
small cove
hey is there an updated gun tier list somewhere?
thorny parcel
Probably, but not here.
Though tier lists are subjective and often specific to certain heroes and playstyles, so take them with a grain of salt.
small cove
thought so but still couldve used an idea as to whats usually good
proud fable
I'm trying to beat gfr using character skills as my main source of damage lmao
this is my progress
R8 lone wolf 4 too
velvet hamlet
bunny swords and bunny bloom should be easy
tiger thunder and chain lightning too
good luck with bird cleave tho
proud fable
good luck with bird cleave tho
Yeah I tried it alr and failed miserably
I needed more absolute advantage and fierce wings
I'm most scared for the fist build
I've tried it and it has potential
but like bird you need perfect ascensions
and cat splinter orb
Those will be the worst
thorny parcel
Fist build you don't need perfect ascensions.
Since you also benefit from movement, which means anything like weapons and scrolls that increase movement can be used as well.
That and a lot more ascensions can be used while fisting enemies.
Just checked now, Turtle has exactly 3 ascensions that don't benefit shielding and fisting in some way.
Maybe 4 if you want to count White Water.
Almost guaranteed to have an acceptable ascension choice.
Birb on the other hand has 8 useless ascensions when it comes to Cleave.
6 if you're willing to accept Steel Armor and Iron Scud.
thorny parcel
Good luck doing reasonable damage with that without a stunlock build.
Eh, who am I kidding. You'll definitely take Splinter Orb for a stunlock build.
green phoenix
does Lucky Shot override Crit?
thorny parcel
No, they work together.
proud fable
Eh, who am I kidding. You'll definitely take Splinter Orb for a stunlock build.
Energy bolt moment
green phoenix
No, they work together.
any chance you can explain it to me?
I can't seem to process how lucky shot works
proud fable
I gotchu
So lucky shot is just a flat damage boost
If you have 50% lucky shot
then your attacks have a 50% change to do double damage
100% lucky shot, 100% chance to do double damage
If you have above 100%
Like 150%
You have a 50% chance to do triple damage
and a 50% to do double damage
if you have 190% then you have a 90% to do triple damage, 10% to do double, etc
And if you have above 200%
then you go into quadruple
250% is 50% quadruple damage, 50% triple
It maxes out at 300%
Which is 100% chance to do 4x damage
Criticals will multiply that damage based on the "critX" of the weapon
If a weapons critX is 5, a critical hit will do 5x the damage the gun normally would
so if you have 300% lucky shot
a weapon with 5 critX
and the weapon does 1000 damage
The lucky shot will make the weapon do 4000 damage (because 300% lucky shot is 4x damage)
And if you crit, your critX makes you do 5x more damage
so you will end up with 20,000 damage
Sorry for the text wall, hope this helps tho
proud fable
No problem lol
thorny parcel
It maxes out at 300%
It doesn't max out.
The number stays red, but the damage keeps going up.
green phoenix
The number stays red, but the damage keeps going up.
so over 300% lucky shot adds more damage?
thorny parcel
Yes.
green phoenix
nah fam you good thanks for the quick replies both of yolu
green phoenix
one more question
the Elite monster in the final area
that splits into 3, the sniper one
how do I know wh ich is the real one
thorny parcel
It's a subtle tell, but the most consistent way to tell is ||the real one fires several shots in quick succession, the fakes fire once||.
mint cradle
This isn’t the intended tell, but depending on your loadout, ||if you have applied an elemental effect that colors the enemy, only the real one will be colored after the split||
Also ||the fakes have much less health. If you’re killing it too quickly, you’re hitting a fake, lol||
proud fable
This isn’t the intended tell, but depending on your loadout, ||if you have appli...
Oh yeah that too
Or if its like
corrosive or fiery
The real one will have a fireball over its head before the rest
Cuz it started creating its fireball before the split
proud fable
Also ||the fakes have much less health. If you’re killing it too quickly, you’re...
Usually the fakes go back the second you hit them lol
thorny parcel
That's because you're doing too much damage.
AKA casual Reincarnation levels of damage.
mint cradle
Yeah exactly, lol
proud fable
That's because you're doing too much damage.
Ah so shoot them with foundry
proud fable
who ping me
thorny parcel
Probably still less value than Skill Freak and a Concealed Ammo.
But I mean, if you get it, permanent +1200% ain't bad.
proud fable
Yeah plans for bunny bloom run is probably endless assault then skill freak (hopefully)
Endless assault down hell yeah
thorny parcel
Of course, Blossom Enthusiast trumps both of them.
Because what else would you expect from a hero blessing that isn't Dominating Fist or Bladed Cleave?
proud fable
Of course, Blossom Enthusiast trumps both of them.
Didnt think of that
Well if I can get through the elite gathering I'll try it
proud fable
Because what else would you expect from a hero blessing that isn't Dominating Fi...
What other ascensions would I use for fist build?
thorny parcel
Dominating Fist is a blessing.
thorny parcel
It's inferior to Skill Freak in every way, besides requiring less movement to make Wave-breaking Blow hit more times, and boosting weapon damage with Concussive Current/Libra Warrior.
proud fable
Alright
So do I take the libra warrior, skill freak, or endless assault for my first blessing?
thorny parcel
I personally prefer skill freak over endless assault. Sole exception is Atomic Bomb builds.
+125% total DMG on average finishes off enemies faster. Sure you eventually run out, but the DMG bonus almost translates to +125% capacity by technicality.
thorny parcel
Ye.
proud fable
oh +125% ye
Alr I'll try skill freak punch build again once I deal with bunny blossom
Glazed barrier can die in a pit
thorny parcel
Endless Assault wins out solely in endurance, where you would run out of uses without it.
But Turtle gets 1 use every 2s when his aspis is up anyway, and consuming ammo recovers uses, so does it even matter?
proud fable
But Turtle gets 1 use every 2s when his aspis is up anyway, and consuming ammo r...
True that
What about libra warrior?
Is that any good for the build?
thorny parcel
Only for weapon builds. Useless for skill builds.
proud fable
Alright then
thorny parcel
Interestingly enough it lets you use stuff like Rogue Wave ascension to improve your weapons.
proud fable
ye
I guess I'll take skill freak first then once I get to desert...
Idk maybe then I take endless assault or armed caster
I hate elite arsonist I hate elite arsonist I hate elite arsonist I hate elite arsonist I hate elite arsonist
proud fable
I also hate elite mandrill cavalry I also hate elite mandrill cavalry I also hate elite mandrill cavalry I also hate elite mandrill cavalry
thorny parcel
You've met the only act 4 enemy that can actually kill you if you have an OP build.
Be honored.
proud fable
You've met the only act 4 enemy that can actually kill you if you have an OP bui...
I've met them many a times and have died to them many a time
They're literally the only thing standing in my way from beating the turtle fist run
besides pushover pole monarch
but hes a pushover
thorny parcel
So you should be even more honored that they've killed you time and time again.
proud fable
For some incredibly strange reason, I don't
thorny parcel
Thank them for being one of few things left in the game that actually pose a threat.
proud fable
No I like playing the game on babee mode
proud fable
At least, until they inevitably get nerfed.
🙏
They dont need a lot to be a bit more fair
Just for that fire trail to not deal ungodly amounts of damage and same with their flamethrower
thorny parcel
My money is on them getting nerfed when the Hyperborean Jokul map for Spiritual Assault gets released.
Because the devs will realize all their other buffs haven't stopped people from dying.
proud fable
My money is on them getting nerfed when the Hyperborean Jokul map for Spiritual ...
Oh yeah, I don't wanna imagine one coming out every 2 seconds blasting you with flames
Holy shit I don't think this is even possible
I have literally everything for this build
I even had lifesaver
The only thing I didnt have was my one soul essence revive
2 triple comebacks, etc
I still get rolled by those 3 motherfuckers
pls nerf
gusty mountain
Honestly they'd probably just be like any other elite in SA, instantly deleted. Unless they do something about the power creep.
thorny parcel
They don't get instantly deleted though, that's why they're so dangerous.
Not only does their first attack (which in SA, they will most likely pull off from you being distracted by all the chaos) close the distance fast and act as area denial, and a lot of it when there are many, but when you one-shot them, you have to hit them again to actually kill them or else they come back for another surprise ambush charge attack.
proud fable
Honestly they'd probably just be like any other elite in SA, instantly deleted. ...
Their health pool is fine tbh
gusty mountain
They just end up getting one-shot twice.
proud fable
I don't think they need to be instantly deleted
gusty mountain
It's just a matter of waiting for the animation to finish.
proud fable
but their damage is so over-the-top that everything is unfair
thorny parcel
They get one-shot twice, but that's still twice as much attention you need to give them compared to literally anything else.
And they will still likely hit you unless you saw their approach.
proud fable
thats it I'm sacrificing endless assault for fake death
Here's hoping the extra life will save the run
here's also hoping capacity overdraft doesnt fuck me too hard
thorny parcel
Especially in a game mode that prioritizes killing things quickly, them surviving for longer is a big difference.
proud fable
Especially in a game mode that prioritizes killing things quickly, them survivin...
Them surviving for longer with their insane damage*
thorny parcel
Here's hoping the extra life will save the run
Doubt it, since it only works on-kill and once every 45s. You'd have to both kill an elite within the 10s you're given to stay alive, and survive another 45 seconds in the battle if you want another chance.
proud fable
I DID IT
HOLY SHOT
SHIT
THE EXTRA LIFE WORKED
GET REKT ALTANNA
IM RIGHT FOR ONCE
(the only reason it worked is because I had 2 triple comebacks so it could proc 3 times, one for each elite)
I then died to pole monarch because of his one phase where he summons balls
Fuck
Time to alt f4 glitch
Ok progress report
I made it back to the monarch
And I now have riches priveleges
and managed to save one of the triple comebacks
Its over
I would like to thank altanna for telling me what blessings to get
new progress report on my journey
Surprisingly I think bird cleave will be easier than cat orb
proud fable
Ye
However cleave has more raw damage potential
You just need hella luck
something I dont have
thorny parcel
Eh, not really.
Energy Bolt, Combustion and 3 times the energy orbs being fired are pretty devastating damage bonuses.
On top of most enemies being unable to fight back, once you get enough cooldown reduction.
proud fable
Energy Bolt, Combustion and 3 times the energy orbs being fired are pretty devas...
But with cleave range, easy kill, and fierce wings cleave can be nasty
proud fable
On top of most enemies being unable to fight back, once you get enough cooldown ...
yeah yeah stunlock
thorny parcel
Energy Orb also gets range, Energy Bolt is up to 18.55x average damage compared to Fierce Wing's 4x (7420 vs 3200).
Only thing Cleave would have is Easy Kill, which requires serious dedication to it. You won't be able to kill enemies early on with other means without sabotaging Cleave later on.
proud fable
Energy Orb also gets range, Energy Bolt is up to 18.55x average damage compared ...
Ok fine ur right
But I was still right about fake death
ha
gusty mountain
enhanced energy sandals is funny.
modern sorrel
What a rush
proud fable
What a rush
near nexus
so close yet so far 
proud fable
Is that lone wolf 4 reincarnation 8?
proud fable
so close yet so far <:sleep:737339402325459077>
quick alt f4
near nexus
R4
proud fable
no more revives
It still works
gusty mountain
only if you have revives
proud fable
nope
I used it when I died to pole monarch
as long as you don't actually give up the run you can alt f4
gusty mountain
Not when I last tried.
proud fable
Not when I last tried.
Strange. it worked literally an hour and a half ago lmao
near nexus
welp
gusty mountain
If you had 0 revives left alt f4'ing didn't work.
proud fable
If you had 0 revives left alt f4'ing didn't work.
It does tho
gusty mountain
It only worked if you had a revive.
proud fable
As I said, I literally did it an hour and a half ago no revives
gusty mountain
It must have been patched then.
proud fable
I died with no revives, no triple comeback, no fake death, no anything
proud fable
It must have been patched then.
Within 90 minutes?
gusty mountain
Since the last time I've tried.
proud fable
I don't think an update was dropped within the past 2 hours
gusty mountain
Which was a long time ago.
proud fable
Since the last time I've tried.
You mean unpatched?
gusty mountain
I mean patched.
near nexus
almost good run tho, could have just spammed skills instead
proud fable
I mean patched.
If it didnt work when you did it then it was patched
gusty mountain
A long time ago when you alt f4'd with no revives you couldn't return to your game.
The game was over.
gusty mountain
THat's what I said.
proud fable
THat's what I said.
???
gusty mountain
It's either a bug or was patched.
proud fable
Its not patched tho
gusty mountain
lol
It can't be unpatched if it was never patched to begin with.
It always worked the way I said until now, according to you.
proud fable
It always worked the way I said until now, according to you.
So if it doesnt work its not patched
and if it does work it is patched
gusty mountain
Like I said, it's either patched or is a bug.
proud fable
Its probably a bug
They probably added in a new feature that messed with the code that patched it
unpatching it
gusty mountain
You can't unpatch something that was never patched to begin with.
proud fable
You can't unpatch something that was never patched to begin with.
If it didnt work, according to you, it was patched
gusty mountain
That's how it initially worked so it wasn't patched. lol
proud fable
Alright then
So this is just a whole new bug
that shares some similarities with a previous bug
modern sorrel
There's a few of these profile frame unlocks that I have no idea how to even begin doing. Not least because a lot of them require Nightmare difficulty... or solo. Or BOTH.
proud fable
There's a few of these profile frame unlocks that I have no idea how to even _be...
I think the one thats hardest to get is either monkeys or cats
modern sorrel
This one's just ridiculous.
thorny parcel
Ah, the non-DLC frame with the second lowest completion rate.
Because it's the only one that actually requires skill.
proud fable
That was the first frame I ever got
besides the 1 mil one and the other one
I forgot what it is but its another special one
fireworks I think
modern sorrel
I'm still working my way up to Nightmare difficulty.
proud fable
Ah alright
gusty mountain
Why is gold even an option here? lol
proud fable
Why is gold even an option here? lol
because what else are you gonna use it for
gusty mountain
Uh, wep upgrades?
proud fable
I'm still working my way up to Nightmare difficulty.
Reincarnation 1 is the best way to get that frame
proud fable
Uh, wep upgrades?
Those aren't very important
modern sorrel
Reincarnation 1 is the best way to get that frame
I don't even have Reincarnation unlocked, and given the sheer step up that Nightmare is, I'm afraid
proud fable
I don't even have Reincarnation unlocked, and given the sheer step up that Night...
No I know
but once you do it's a lot easier than nightmare
modern sorrel
Come to think of it, Nightmare feels a lot like how I remember the game being around the time it first released on Steam in Early Access...
proud fable
Come to think of it, Nightmare feels a lot like how I remember the game being ar...
Yeah
The game is very hard earlygame
nightmare is also considered earlygame
gusty mountain
Cat orb build is pretty dumb with enhanced energy sandals.
proud fable
however I'm pretty sure theres been some smaller nerfs towards the earlygame. hopefully it's a bit easier
proud fable
Cat orb build is pretty dumb with enhanced energy sandals.
All skill builds are
modern sorrel
What's so unique about Reincarnation that makes it so much simpler than Nightmare?
thorny parcel
Any skill build besides Fatal Bloom is.
proud fable
What's so unique about Reincarnation that makes it so much simpler than Nightmar...
Not simpler
But the reincarnation levels offer crazy buffs for soul essence
modern sorrel
Oh oof. I haven't finished off the Talent tree yet.
thorny parcel
What's so unique about Reincarnation that makes it so much simpler than Nightmar...
You get a bunch of extra stuff to use, most of which are upgrades or outright overpowered bonuses.
proud fable
40% chance to throw all grenades you have in your storage for the price of one
And the more you throw, the more damage they do
thorny parcel
40% chance to throw all grenades you have in your storage for the price of one
*for the price of none
proud fable
Oh dam
Its so fun to just get double exhilaration and the double your fun thing. You become a hose of explosions
warped fiber
guys why my loading screen take longer than any other even my net good with oppo A74 ._.
royal plinth
What is the monkey in the discord server banner?
cursive axle
Are you doing a secondary build for every character?
proud fable
No I'm doing a run where I try to beat r8 lone wolf 4 using one of a characters 2 skills as my main source of damage
This is my progress
Only one thats missing is dog dual wield but that does 0 damage lol
proven sage
Overconsumption and Field Prof for Sword out
proud fable
Cleave and orb I just have to get god ascension luck
cursive axle
Naruhodo
Not even luck depending on how stubborn you are
Cat orb is ezpz albeit slow as FFUUUUUUUUUUCK
green phoenix
if a gone says "10% weapon base damage upon hitting an enemy. (UP to 200%, resets on a miss)" does that carry over act to act until you miss?
thorny parcel
It carries over.
proud fable
Alr
thorny parcel
But also resets on weapon swap.
green phoenix
cool thanks mate
proud fable
bunny swords out might be the strongest build I've ever come across
Turned the 3 elite mandrill cavalrys into offbrand sushi
thorny parcel
Didn't even get Sword Enthusiast.
proud fable
is that a blessing or an ascension?
Oh is that the +50% rof and you can stack the blade thingies while swords out is on cooldown
It wasnt really worth it tbh
I was just spamming swords out cuz the cooldown was so low
100% uptime of swords obliterating anything I look at
thorny parcel
That's Sword Mastery. It's virtually junk.
Sword Enthusiast is +1.5/2.5/4% weapon and skill DMG for 8/8/10s per flying sword summoned.
The more swords you throw out, the more damage they all deal.
proud fable
Sword Enthusiast is +1.5/2.5/4% weapon and skill DMG for 8/8/10s per flying swor...
Oh yeah that thing
I should have looked for that
gusty mountain
The last perk gives lucky shot as well.
wild escarp
anyone else suddenly takeing way more damage on some runs
like i sware some runs ill die almost instantly in the first or second room whereas others feel like i cant be hurt till area 2
harsh wagon
man spiritual assault is hell as birb
1 hook and instant death lol
since can't use kick while being roadhog'd every half a second
thorny parcel
On the other hand, Cleave is unironically one of the most powerful skills there.
proud fable
On the other hand, Cleave is unironically one of the most powerful skills there.
Yeah
I got a god cleave run there once
did 3.3 billion damage
Speaking of cleave, cleave run for birb is done
All I have is the two cat skills
grenade should be ez cuz painkiller
Its the orb I'm worried about
gusty mountain
Orb isn't that bad, especially if manage to get enhanced energy sandals.
thorny parcel
Everything except Dual-Wield, Fatal Current, Fatal Bloom and Soul Strike isn't that bad if you manage to get enhanced energy sandals.
Septupling your damage is no joke, even in GFR where getting high damage is laughably easy.
gusty mountain
Except orb can perma stun lock. enhanced energy sandals just makes it quicker to kill.
proud fable
Everything except Dual-Wield, Fatal Current, Fatal Bloom and Soul Strike isn't t...
Fatal currents lightning bolt benefits right?
And why doesnt it benefit fatal bloom?
thorny parcel
Thunderbolts do not benefit from it. Good thing too. We don't need a third massive multiplicative bonus on top of Thunder & Glory and Fulminous Zap affecting all 7 of your thunderbolts from Thunder Nemesis 3.
Fatal Bloom does technically benefit from it, however each additional damage proc is separately boosted. So you're only benefiting 400 base damage each time. Even Smoke Grenade can do better than that with Combustion existing.
proud fable
Thunderbolts do *not* benefit from it. Good thing too. We don't need a third mas...
Ah I see
I guess 7x damage on top of thunderbolt would be cracked
thorny parcel
That'll be almost as easy. Just pick Painkiller.
proud fable
yep
Then just go elemental build from there
sure its not a pure grenade build but the damage comes from the grenades
thorny parcel
Well as long as you don't shoot or use Energy Orb, 100% of actual damage will come from Smoke Grenades.
Because true damage based on enemy max HP doesn't count, right?
proud fable
Because true damage based on enemy max HP doesn't count, right?
Sure lol
I can still shoot and use the orb tho
If I run out of grenades it becomes an issue
It has to be most of my damage comes from the grenades
like 90% minimum
Which is easy lategame
crystal saddle
yeah right
velvet hamlet
gg
final basin
Hi do you guys know how weapon damage affect spores? Because it could only buff the rainbow and then be pretty useless or buff damage from all weapon and then it will buff spores damage as well
crimson plume
Check the wiki. It has the formula on there I'm pretty sure
final basin
"Spores only benefit from some damage bonuses."
Is the most precise they got
I just wanna know if weapon damage boosting scrolls affect both weapons or only the one in hand
median prairie
It will affect the damage of the spores applied by the weapon in your hand, yes.
proud fable
yeah right
What in the luck
median prairie
The base damage of the spore explosion is based on both weapon stats and then it gets damage bonuses applied to it after, AFAIK. So any “+X% Weapon Damage” scrolls do increase your spore damage.
quartz current
I wish the emotional damage of me rerolling 30 times also added to the damage
proud fable
I wish the emotional damage of me rerolling 30 times also added to the damage
I wish the emotional damage of me dying to the ridiculous amount of damage created by r8 crossbowmen added to the damage
pine trout
I got massive emotional damage when I kept rerolling enhanced scrolls and didn't notice how nuts the cost got until I got under 19k soul essence
and I ended up with enhanced sixth shot or something it was awful
proud fable
and I ended up with enhanced sixth shot or something it was awful
alt-f4 that
pine trout
that's unethical
I'll just open up four or five chrome tabs and crash my entire computer from lack of memory
proud fable
that's unethical
I'll just open up four or five chrome tabs and crash my entire ...
by "accident"
bronze radish
Hi question
Does anyone know if they plan on making more reincarnation levels or making the main game mode harder ?
proud fable
Uh
bronze radish
I played spiritual assault yesterday and I beat it within 3 tries
proud fable
I don't think new reincarnation levels are in the plan
bronze radish
I really enjoy the game but the main mode got easy
proud fable
if they are, I assume it will only be 2 more
bronze radish
Oh okay
proud fable
which might give difficulty increases
pine trout
considering the way development goes I think it's fair to assume that challenge will have to be self imposed for the most part
proud fable
yeah
I mean
you can always give yourself challenges
scrolless runs
No dashes
no primarys or secondaries
Primary onlys
etc
bronze radish
I wish there was a modding system for the game to enable higher difficulties
proud fable
Theres a lot of ways to make the game challenging
proud fable
I wish there was a modding system for the game to enable higher difficulties
Yeah
Too bad the game is practically unmoddable
bronze radish
I mean my friend and I beat it on reincarnation 8 with no scrolls ... Took around 2 hours tho
proud fable
I'm not too sure why, I think it has something to do with the fact that its developed in china and so most modders don't wanna deal with code in foreign languages
That could be completely wrong
Maybe theres a different way of coding over there
bronze radish
Too bad the game is practically unmoddable
Yeah it has so much potential if modding was available
I mean maybe
proud fable
Only thing we got for modding is bizarre dream lol
bronze radish
Yup
thorny parcel
- Do not discuss or engage in piracy, cheating, modding, data mining, leaked materials or similar topics revolving around Gunfire Reborn.
- For emphasis, we would like to not have any discussions about modding Gunfire Reborn on the server. This is in accordance with the wishes of the developers. This also includes texture swaps and simple replacements.
thorny parcel
Hi question
Does anyone know if they plan on making more reincarnation levels o...
If the current trend of updates continues, not only will they not add more things to make Reincarnation harder, but they'll keep buffing spiritual blessings and making Bizarre Dream modifiers that make the game even easier.
proud fable
7. Do not discuss or engage in piracy, cheating, **modding**, data mining, leake...
Our bad
thorny parcel
Oh cool, more buffs!
burnt pulsar
thorny parcel
Sad part is, I want it to be a funny joke.
But history shows it's neither funny nor a joke anymore. 😔
burnt pulsar
Don't be sad, my friend. The fact is that the Devs do care about the overseas players. Just don't forget to leave your opinions or let's say "complains" on Steam.
crystal saddle
What in the luck
If only I was on tao and was going for the world record that luck is world record luck
thorny parcel
I did make a Steam review for the game some time ago.
Big chunky one that listed good and bad things the game has.
burnt pulsar
No offence but, just you alone would not make significant change. Maybe half of the Discord members making comments on Steam would work.
Actually this is the first game that the studio made that the main customers are not located in China, for us, Everyday = making the game better + learn how to deal with the overseas market.
proud fable
Chill guys, new stuffs is coming up
Ye I'm pumped
burnt pulsar
We still got a long way to go, and we really hope to have the company of you guys along the way
proud fable
Yessir
I took a hiatus and I probably will some months into the future but this is a game Im playin for a loong time
thorny parcel
No offence but, just you alone would not make significant change. Maybe half of ...
I am... fully aware of this unfortunate fact. Most people prefer to have an easy game where they can become super powerful on the highest difficulty.
Unfortunately this ends up giving them false satisfaction where they think they're good but really aren't, not that it really matters in the big picture.
proud fable
Unfortunately this ends up giving them false satisfaction where they think they'...
Damn ok
analog lake
i still don't understand why it's such a big problem that this game is easy
proud fable
I love easy things
analog lake
every other roguelike on steam is hard, why can't gfr do something different?
proud fable
My monke brain cant deal with anything else
thorny parcel
The game being easy overall isn't a problem.
It's the fact that all the recent things that make the game easier... are exclusive to harder difficulties and modes.
The hard stuff is becoming easier, without making the actual easy stuff easier too.
analog lake
i really still don't think it's that deep
burnt pulsar
My monke brain cant deal with anything else
LOL same, when I play games I don't actually want hardcore experience, especially nowadays.
thorny parcel
Consider the fact that the first few difficulties are actually pretty hard.
proud fable
LOL same, when I play games I don't actually want hardcore experience, especiall...
Yes, thank you for making the game simple and easy with a little challenge earlygame
burnt pulsar
But I totally understand what Altanna said.
thorny parcel
It means that people looking for an easy game has to go through hard difficulties to get to the easy content that keeps getting added and updated.
proud fable
Consider the fact that the first few difficulties are actually pretty hard.
Oh yeah for sure
We've talked about this
thorny parcel
It makes no sense from a gameplay design perspective.
proud fable
People not having talents, game knowledge, and blessings earlygame makes normal, elite, and nightmare horrible
I think a lot of people don't want to make it into later game, thinking it'll just be a lot harder than earlygame
burnt pulsar
It makes no sense from a gameplay design perspective.
True. The discuss of Simple or Difficult shouldn't only base on the game content, bu the overall system (Gameplay Framework).
proud fable
I think there could be some system in place to make earlygame easier but I can't think of what it could be
thorny parcel
Another thing is even if the game is being designed to become easy by adding more powerful things, it's still not good to leave weaker things weak.
burnt pulsar
And we are working on that, which is allowing players to have easy game fight, while the others could also pursuit hardcore experience in GFR
proud fable
Maybe like a soul essence % increase until you beat nightmare or something
proud fable
And we are working on that, which is allowing players to have easy game fight, w...
Oh a hardcore mode would be cool
Limited revives or something
Only 2 blessings allowed
Or just a lot of super buffed content
thorny parcel
Personally I'd prefer if weak got buffed and strong got nerfed, but if that not going to be done for balance purposes, the weak should still be buffed.
proud fable
Limited revives in multiplayer
I don't want lategame to be nerfed, I'd much rather there be more optional challenge
However, I agree that earlygame should still be buffed
thorny parcel
Currently the only optional challenge we have late game is Mysterious Jokul, and it only barely manages that by making elite enemies ridiculously powerful and unbalanced by enhancing them.
proud fable
And lone wolf
thorny parcel
Lone Wolf doesn't count. The free blessing ruins any challenge.
thorny parcel
It depends on the blessing picked, but if you pick a good one, it does remove a lot of challenge from the run.
proud fable
I just pick ulti gambler to deal with my shit rng
thorny parcel
Ultimate Gambler is one of the more balanced blessings.
proud fable
It doesnt make the normal game harder
thorny parcel
Which at this point means "weak".
So you'll definitely get more challenge from picking it.
proud fable
But those 5 elites really tend to fuck me up unless the run is a god run
I also find it more fun tho
Almost all builds rely on ascensions, so why not buff your chance of getting a good one?
Otherwise you just open 300 chests and don't get that one easy kill or that one wavebreaking blow
thorny parcel
And we are working on that, which is allowing players to have easy game fight, w...
Oh right, and about this...
Technically a hardcore experience already happened... 3 times I think? Maybe 4 times if you include Spiritual Assault.
The addition of Nightmare difficulty. The addition of Reincarnation difficulty. The addition of Reincarnation 8. The addition of Spiritual Assault.
All of these added considerable challenge to the game when they were released.
All of them except Nightmare have been made easier through updates.
proud fable
I feel like if I were to go back to nightmare I wouldn't stand a chance
thorny parcel
Reincarnation's blessings were buffed repeatedly. Reincarnation 8's exclusive challenges were nerfed, and Spiritual Assault just got easier in almost every way, especially in multiplayer.
proud fable
Right. Which is why I'm thinking we could get a dedicated hardcore mode
Enemies get like 2x health and damage or everything becomes enhanced idk I'm not very creative
Enhanced bosses
thorny parcel
Right. Which is why I'm thinking we could get a *dedicated* hardcore mode
Assuming history repeats itself, even if you label a new mode as "Super Hardcore Mode No Casual Gamers Allowed Because You Will Die If You Suck", chances are it would still become easier over time as people complain about it.
thorny parcel
If history repeats itself, the devs won't stand their ground.
Remember how Li got nerfed?
1 nerf, barely changed her damage potential.
proud fable
Was this recently?
harsh wagon
Mysterious Jokul makes me want to slam my head into my desk
thorny parcel
Then people complained about how "Paid DLC heroes are getting axed and are useless now" and she was conveniently given 4 buffs and a new powerful blessing next update.
thorny parcel
Last month right
Let's see...
proud fable
Damn this community loves their fox girls
thorny parcel
09/23/2022 was when she was nerfed, 10/28/2022 update was when she got several buffs.
gusty mountain
more like they love pay2win
thorny parcel
About 1 month difference. Immediate response.
proud fable
I picked the game back up nov 2023
2022*
Looks like I missed the unnerf li storm
I can see it though
harsh wagon
didn't even notice the nerf lul
thorny parcel
The devs listen to majority complaints. If people find a hardcore difficulty hard and complain, the devs will make it easier.
proud fable
The second their 5 dollar character gets nerfed people revive the server to bitch about it
proud fable
The devs listen to majority complaints. If people find a hardcore difficulty har...
Thats stupid
thorny parcel
didn't even notice the nerf lul
It was barely a nerf too.
proud fable
"I'm not good enough for this hard mode make it easier for me"
thorny parcel
Said nerfed ascension is still superior to every other hero's ascension that is similar.
With a few exceptions that are questionable to include due to their utility nature.
thorny parcel
Conflagration went from 150/300/450% Base DMG to 120/240/360% Base DMG. Damage bonus increase from energy consumption was untouched.
proud fable
Ah alr
thorny parcel
As comparison, most heroes have 100/200/300%, with no secondary damage effect.
proud fable
Bro if theres any damage ascensions they should buff its the monkes
proud fable
As comparison, most heroes have 100/200/300%, with no secondary damage effect.
Cat has 200/400/600
Birb has 200/400/600
thorny parcel
With a few exceptions that are questionable to include due to their utility natu...
^
proud fable
Ehh
Tiger has 300/400/500
Bunny does have 100/200/300
Turtle has nothing
And monke has 70/140/280
thorny parcel
Maybe it would be easier if I just posted this:
https://gunfirereborn.fandom.com/wiki/Conflagration
proud fable
Its not easier lol
thorny parcel
Easier for me.
proud fable
I cant read minds
Oh but a lot of heros have 100/200/300 for secondary skills
If that was what u were talking abt
thorny parcel
In any case. Conflagration great, Conflagration nerfed, Conflagration still great despite complaints.
Complaints heard, Li buffed.
proud fable
yes
thorny parcel
Complaints superior to reason. Any past or future attempt at hard difficulty nerfed from complaints.
Game easy.
proud fable
Yea
I just wish people knew what hard meant
I mean I'm stupid, as proven from our skill ascension above, but not that stupid
burnt pulsar
more like they love pay2win
That is the problem, when the game are made so simple, the gameplay logic of your main customer would be like this. Although they are the majority and could make you a lot of money.
thorny parcel
I can also understand pay2win as well. I don't agree with it, but I can understand why people want it.
Problem is, it still doesn't hold up with the development choices.
Monke for example is about as good as any other free hero.
It's only Li who is superior.
If pay 2 win was really the intention, Monke would be buffed to her level.
burnt pulsar
In conclusion, the Devs must consider the market 
, and try to balance both business and gameplay.
distant fulcrum
It has to do with first impressions, and setting the player's expectations.
Game's difficulty is like a bell curve. After a point, gets easier as you progress, so people expect it to continue with that trend.
Xing Zhe was decently balanced and people didn't mind.
Li, on the other hand, was overtuned from the start, and that's what people expected. Reception definitely would've been different had she been undertuned, then buffed to be OP, then nerfed back to normal.
proud fable
it has been done
You can beat all 4 acts of gfr using every characters primary and secondary skill (besides dual wield) as your main source of damage
thorny parcel
Now do it with every weapon, starting with Frenzied Shark.
proud fable
Now do it with every weapon, starting with Frenzied Shark.
I would but I'm not spending 10 years to get them all from green chest
thorny parcel
Don't have to, just need to find one then do majority damage with it.
Have fun with the ping pong ball launcher!
proud fable
Don't have to, just need to find one then do majority damage with it.
With my luck I'ma get it at 4-2
proud fable
Have fun with the ping pong ball launcher!
You gave me an idea
Time to try dual frenzied shark
well not time to do it now
bc its 12 am and I have homework
But tomorrow
proud fable
perfect
Give those bastards a taste of their own medicine
What blessings do I take though
One dog army first for sure
Need that earlygame damage
then weapon genius
For lategame damage with 2 of the frenzieds
thorny parcel
Those 2 blessings contradict each other.
thorny parcel
You'd be better off with Overconsumption for early game.
proud fable
Does dogs explosion ascensions buff scorching rounds?
thorny parcel
It does.
proud fable
Ooooo
quartz current
Damn he's HOT
Real talk tho I finally got to try the triple ricochet x2 yoinky sploinky deluxe and it's as funny as it sounds.
proud fable
Act 2 down
Altanna im gonna beat this challenge and theres nothing you can do but watch
Well
Not watch
but listen to me beat act after act
proud fable
What in the builds were you going for?
+26 fire scalpel. Okay, sure, you're going to create an epik fire delete gun. Okay
(this message was not made with offense btw I just am confused)
near nexus
spamming meteor
proud fable
Why spend money on scalpel then?
Instead of saving for riches privileges
If you had it
gusty mountain
That scalpel is strong.
gusty mountain
To have an alternate kill option.
near nexus
idek i just feel like want more omph
near nexus
both
thorny parcel
Altanna im gonna beat this challenge and theres nothing you can do but watch
Took you 2 hours to beat it though.
proud fable
Took you 2 hours to beat it though.
I may have taken a slight break
||and used the alt f4 glitch for better ascensions||
thorny parcel
Stalling and cheating.
And here I thought you wanted to prove yourself. 😔
proud fable
woah woah woah
Not stalling
I just had dinner
and a lil bit of ragequit
And cheating nahh
I'm just...
using faulty code to my advantage :D
Also I'm not trying to prove myself, I'm trying to prove the ping pong ball launcher
thorny parcel
And lying too! Does your shame know no bounds??
proud fable
Run looking a little dead
Since when do elite lobsters do 1k damage on their normal attack
thorny parcel
Probably the giant mortar shell finale.
proud fable
Normal attack
Regardless, theres 2 new heroes coming out it seems
Can't wait to spend 10 hours on their skill-as-my-main-damage runs
Once I beat frenzied shark run ofc
proud fable
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misty sorrel
Has Xbox received all the content pc has?
I’m new to the game so I’m just wondering
misty sorrel
Is there an idea of when it’ll come ? Or nah?
final basin
Is there an idea of when it’ll come ? Or nah?
I dont think they plan on doing that. Coding for different platform is really tidious so they probably just ported the game for gamepass and that's it
misty sorrel
What about all the new content on the roadmap, is that just for pc?
thorny parcel
Steam is the original and main platform, so everything on the roadmap comes to Steam first.
With Mobile following behind slightly (and sometimes getting things before Steam) with Gamepass trailing way way way behind to the point it looks like it's not moving at all.
misty sorrel
Ah man that’s kind of a bummer
I just downloaded today so I got plenty to play with
For now
misty sorrel
Hello fellow lemon.
mint cradle
It’s a lemon party in here
misty sorrel
😦😦
harsh wagon
🍋
misty sorrel
🍋
warm salmon
Someone dropped an enhanced Wheel Saw (the shield/armor busting one) in Longling Tomb and I kept that for the rest of the run. With counterviolence, deadly counter, and skilled trick. I was the chainsaw monkey!
velvet hamlet
dangerous
mossy sequoia
chainsaw dog is my spirit animal
long jungle
that's sounds fun, I mostly use the illusion shotguns. I remember when I first started I used miniguns alot and used to much ammo lol.
proud fable
I dropped the frenzied shark run
I could have alt f4ed it
but I wasnt about to grind out some god luck
Its got decent mobbing potential
with dog explosion enhancements
but its got shitty boss and elite damage
thorny parcel
Congrats. If you didn't already, now you know why Frenzied Shark is considered the worst weapon in the game.
To wash the taste of that previous run out of your mouth, your next run will be Deafening Mortar.
proud fable
Congrats. If you didn't already, now you know why Frenzied Shark is considered t...
when I say decent mobbing
i mean it was great at it
I could clear white sharks in a few shots
and entire areas of enemies
But yeah
Its god damn bossing
was so shit
I have been wanting to try dual flakkers
proud fable
Wait so thunderbolts aren't skill damage?
thorny parcel
They are.
proud fable
but energy sandals doesnt affect them.
final basin
They are not "skills" but they deal "skill damage" so i guess energy sandals increase damage specifically for primary or secondary skill
Like direct damage?
By the way is it the first instance of damage or every? (idek if there's a skill that deal damage multiple times)
final basin
No i mean either primary or secondary skill
Guess cleave works
Does energy sandal buffs the first enemy hit by bird's cleave or every hit of the first cleave?
thorny parcel
Every hit.
I'd imagine Fatal Current's thunderbolts are like additional triggers, rather than the skill itself.
final basin
Oh yeah i know: bunny's primary skill. Does it buff the first sword or every sword?
thorny parcel
Because Fatal Current itself is a buff. All other sources of skill damage are based on additional triggers, like shooting an enemy and ascensions.
I'd imagine it's similar to how Energy Sandals doesn't work on every random flying sword that gets triggered by Empathy With Sword... at least I assume it doesn't.
final basin
I'd imagine it's similar to how Energy Sandals doesn't work on every random flyi...
Latest patch note
Do you think it could be that it now works on every sword?
thorny parcel
That's Swords Out, not Empathy With Sword.
Don't know if it now works on every flying sword though regardless of source, and have no real intention to find out either.
proven sage
should be all swords in one Cast
velvet hamlet
yo y'all
im workin on a channel with a bunch of useful resources related to the game listed for reference, feel free to DM me any infographics, charts, links, or whatever you might find useful so i might consider putting it in the channel
lavish marten
so how is the enemies getting occult scrolls is it balanced or is it ror2 void fields bad?
thorny parcel
It's either piss easy, reasonably painful or somewhere in between, depending on how good you are at choosing.
final basin
Or it can be hell if you chose the worst every time can't it?
thorny parcel
Probably.
But you probably won't get that unless you do something really stupid.
Like picking Shrine of Recovery knowing full well you have to fight Elite Thunderous Stalkers or Elite Mandrill Cavalry without a high damage build.
final basin
Or Resilient Life and Flesh and Bones :)
And Stone Skin, and Corrosion Enthousiast etc.
Could make a run really hard lol
Though you can stack 5 scrolls at max on enhanced elites ennemies in Hyperborean Jokul
misty sorrel
Can someone explain what the spiritual assault mode is
thorny parcel
No talents except hero ones, pick a limited number of bonuses to start with, then fight constant swarms of enemies for 30 minutes, with occasional breaks in combat, events and elite enemy encounters throughout. Afterwards, fight the boss Gluttony.
You also level up and get various rewards as you kill enemies.
atomic junco
i just picked up a curiosity box that gave me silver medal and two cursed scrolls
as tao.
so i basically got nothing and two cursed scrolls
@_@
thorny parcel
Silver Medal still helps Tao, but not as much.
atomic junco
you get the regen on breaking items, but that's about it
definitely not worth -30% damage to elites and exponential elemental chance decrease
thorny parcel
-30% damage is only elites, not bosses.
And elemental effect chance reduction only applies to the held weapon, not skills, scrolls, element share gemini or other effects.
Still unfortunate. but not as bad as it might seem.
sharp jewel
When are they adding a new free character to mobile
warped fiber
2 month nu big new update
final basin
Isnt it a dlc?
velvet hamlet
When are they adding a new free character to mobile
there hasnt been a free character on pc since turtle back in late 2021
velvet hamlet
which dlc
final basin
new characters?
final basin
Well if its 3 month per quarter it makes it from april-june
proud fable
Noooo
velvet hamlet
The only dlc on the roadmap
you're in all platforms chat
didnt know what system you were talkin bout
proud fable
you're in all platforms chat
Oh ye mbmb
I forgor the inferior players gamepass, mobile, and xbox players dont have it