#Model not tracking properly compared to Mama Rigger?

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hazy briar
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Hi guys,
my model is not tracking properly.
This is my second model and my rigging Mama created a showcase video where everything looks beautiful. Eyebrows react properly etc.
When I use the model myself with just the raw file she sent, but also after tinkering around, I just can't get the eyebrows to really move...at all.
Only with doing specific mouth positions, as they seem somewhat...linked? The eyebrows and the mouth? Not sure.

I never had this issue with my old model, mind you.
I use an iPhone X for tracking, PC has a Nvidia 3070 TI and nothing lags, just no proper track.
Doesn't matter if I track via VTube Studio or ifacialmocap on phone btw.

Any help on what the issue could be is really appreciated! ❤️

This is the showcase where you can see that the eyebrows do show different emotions.
I also need to open my mouth extremly, unnaturally wide for the same mouth effects as in the video.

https://twitter.com/NaniRue/status/1622528479915827200

Meet the Architect of Time.
Model showcase!🥳💕

Art by @ijacray82
Rig + video by @Kanijam2

#vtuber #envtuber

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onyx marsh
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heya! can you record how the model moves for you and also in the same recording show your old model for comparission? a new fresh recording for both of those will be helpful cause with just the text description is a bit vague

hazy briar
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my rigger sadly doesnt reply at all so i cant make her record 😦 so only have that video i posted there

onyx marsh
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? but we are talking about how it moves for you

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just open vts, record new model, load old model, stop recording

hazy briar
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oh you mean my very old model that had a completely different design and diff rigger?

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ok yeh i can do that, sorry i missunderstood! give me a couple min!

onyx marsh
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and.how the current one moves from you. I gather that the video you shared was recorded by the rigger?

hazy briar
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yeah that was how the rigger did it. she has been changing a couple things since then on the model but even with that original file the eyebrows are incredibly different and not even picking up half the movement

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they constantly look sad lol

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i tried with all file versions she sent me .-.

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all the eyebrow changes that happen with the white haired model are all when i hardcore over-move my mouth into a certain position

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the old model has less rigging overall but you can see how the eyebrows move down when i get angry for example

onyx marsh
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From what I'm seeing its just finetuning the params, its something your righer should have explained to you tbh... Sigh

If.you have 10-15 minutes now i can give you a crash course on it if you screenshare it to me

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Given from what you are telling me that your rigger seems to be missing in action

hazy briar
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yeah i do have time, id appreviate that a shitton T°T ive been trying to tinker with stuff but im not very knowledgable with it. should i load the latest fresh model file in so we have a "clean canvas"?

onyx marsh
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Yeah, load.latest model, give me a sec and i wil jump on call

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join #support-vc-chat

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well, the audio one ofc SubaLaugh

hazy briar
onyx marsh
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@hazy briar forgot to say, try also capping the p´hysics to 60, that may help a little with some of the weird face physics

jagged hinge
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(or u might need to set it to 30, if your rigger didn't set them to 60)

onyx marsh
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That too

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Thanks h'yue eru_heart

jagged hinge
hazy briar
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well in physics i found out now that i can only select half of the hair to be affected by wind rofl

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unless both hair sides are rigged differently and thats why one goes ham and the other doesnt rofl

onyx marsh
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At this point it wouldnt surprise me