That is F1.
#🏎│real-f1-chat
livid hazel
He achieved his dream and didn't want the stress of trying to defend it with everyone against him, u say forced retirement I say walking away with his head high after a great job done
Do u see bottas ever winning a WC?
jaunty cave
Not if hamilton can prevent it.
That goes for all of them.
I want to be proved wrong
livid hazel
The second mercedes seat should be changed every year until ham retires
See who's got it and who hasnt
livid hazel
Wish it was though
jaunty cave
I don't. No need to. I think RB are doing what they should be.
livid hazel
Make it more entertaining watching the both mercs miles ahead
jaunty cave
Compete with full transparency. Verstappen is undoubtedly good.
jaunty cave
It's a matter of time until RB and Ver make it more competitive
You could say the same for all greats in the sport, have them all in the same car then see who wins
No point in that, Ver chose RB, ham chose the Merc
It is what it is
Both independent of each other. That's fair enough.
cyan minnow
Just waiting for Ferrari shares to drop at the end of the season z🥴
jaunty cave
@cyan minnow that brand is too strong, its backed by Italian gov lol
If it drops, Italian economy goes with it lol 😂 😂
cyan minnow
If they keep going as they are with vettle living in bottom 10s they will loose especially if mclaren beats them in cc
cyan minnow
Exactly got a little tent pitched up. BBQ going. He’s happy 🤫
jaunty cave
Binotto should of kept his mouth shut lol
cyan minnow
Hamilton isn’t happy Becuase he put some meat on the bbq 🤤
jaunty cave
What on earth was he thinking telling a driver that. Maybe ferrari make too much capital and locked into partnerships for the long term with leclerc
cyan minnow
Leclerc isn’t doing to bad for his age I thought
But in the good old@days “Ferrari didn’t believe in aero” bit them on the backside
cyan minnow
Albion = upcoming grosjean 😢
jaunty cave
Albon is under immense pressure right now
cyan minnow
Thailand having a big arguement with red bull atm. So can’t see his position lasting
jaunty cave
Team mate makes it 2nd and you finish 8th.
Are they?
😂 😂 😂
RB asking for more money from the Thai government lol
cyan minnow
The owners son, got in a car crash and killed someone and got away with it by ££ which has caused a uproar in Thailand
Death of Wichian Klanprasert. Wichian Klanprasert, a Thai police officer, allegedly was killed by Vorayuth Yoovidhya, grandson of billionaire Red Bull co-founder Chaleo Yoovidhya, in a hit-and-run incident in Bangkok, Thailand, on 3 September 2012.
The case recently finished and he got let off
jaunty cave
😯 my condolence to the family
I wasn't aware of such a thing.
I retract my previous statement.
cyan minnow
He might be okay. But with how many are fighting red bull in Thailand I can’t see him there next year
jaunty cave
Are Thailand behind Albon as his sponsors
cyan minnow
Thai red bull is the main sponsor. Plus he is a halfie half English/Thai. So very wealthy parents are the reason his why his is where he is
jaunty cave
Another paid driver
cyan minnow
Red bull originated in Thailand
It will also depend on Albion if he gets offered another contract. Will he accept or not. If he accepts then Thailand will look down on him
Thailand is very culture based and image is very important
cyan minnow
Previous king 🥳
New ones a....
Can’t finish out of respect for the wife.
But the monarchy doesn’t support f1 so he’s stayed out of it
jaunty cave
I'm sure CH has plans for Albon lol
cyan minnow
Will see his future will be interesting
jaunty cave
I know CH is doing everything he can for Verstappen
That's the cash cow lol if Lewis wasnt doing what he was doing. RB would be the talk of the town.
cyan minnow
Verstappen and Albion is same as leclerc and vettle lol
jaunty cave
Lewis is making RB go back to the drawing table lol if he wasn't there they would think there car is very strong lol
cyan minnow
If they brought back smoking/alcohol advertising. I think the sport will be a lot better with the money generated those tobacco company’s pay a extortion amount to be on the cars
jaunty cave
New sponsors will come lol
It will take time... Maybe vegan companies and healthy products
That I think is the way it may go
cyan minnow
All depends Lewis is 35 how long before he retires 😛
jaunty cave
Toto reckons he can go in his 40's
The longer he stays the more it will attract those type of brands
cyan minnow
Exactly but when he goes they go
cyan minnow
And they will only go to merc as I don’t think any other driver promotes Veganism etc
I could be wrong on that
Merc spongership is ££££££
cyan minnow
Defiantly has been for a while
jaunty cave
Similar to when ferrari was on top
Once he breaks the records
It's going to get worst lol
cyan minnow
Next season will be a lot better I think as they can’t change the cars maybe all the other teams will be able to catch up in car development like racing point
jaunty cave
Sponsors love things like that
Sponsors love to promote something that is being the first in history at something
It's all about innovation though. I hope so too.
cyan minnow
Very true. F1 does need new sponsons. Especially this generation sponsor
Stroll is shocking I dunno how the .... he has done it but mass respect
I always saw him as daddy money scenario
cyan minnow
What was he today started 5th ended 9th?
cyan minnow
Would be very interesting if hulk raced (maybe next week) as there saying racing point is currently 2nd fastest car
If it’s as strong as they say hulk would fly up the track
jaunty cave
Well we'll see next week.
cyan minnow
Gives hulk time to spam them simulators to get back in the swing
cyan minnow
Maybe he has a chance to finally take Hamilton down 😮
jaunty cave
That'd be great
Ham is in his own league driving the Merc with 3 legs and still winning lol
Who would of ever thought
That would happen.
cyan minnow
Ye that was very exciting how he done that it showed Hamilton is the best atm. No argument for that.
Bottas and another also had on last lap also but bottas just couldn’t do it
But I remember last year 7 racers has a blown tyre at Silverstone and blamed pirella(tyre makers) how ever it’s spelt wonder if they will do it again.
jaunty cave
Possibly.
I honestly think teams had been over driving them.
He did complain.
Yet, they kept him out
cyan minnow
Hamilton? When isn’t he complaing about his tyres 😛
He usually complains and pulled the fastest lap at the same time haha
jaunty cave
That's the way to do it lol
cyan minnow
Might be a cry wolf scenario now lol
cyan minnow
Hamilton: “my tyres are gone there sliding”
Mercedes:.... ah.... again.
Mercedes: “you’re fine don’t worry”
Mercedes: **** he’s actually right haha
jaunty cave
Loooool
cyan minnow
I think this year Mercedes all over but as they can’t improve the car next year alot of teams will catch up and it will be a very close@completion.
I.e racing point is basically Mercedes 2019 car. There all getting the funding except Williams
They should just be a relic them Williams 🤪
jaunty cave
What funding?
cyan minnow
Racing point got the billionaire known as stroll. Ferrari got there usual stock holders/shell.
Renault got there huge car market.
Red bull multiple massive incomes
Mercedes ignore 🤪
McLaren senna just brought them lifetime fortune
The others are lower teams don’t know to much off then except Williams should of been a relic 10 years ago and left on a good note
jaunty cave
😂
The lower teams are funded by ferrari or Red bull.
Torro Rosso is red bull and alfa is ferrari.
RP will be using Mercs engine
So Merc making money off of RP
cyan minnow
Haha so there just like the kids of the group being looked after by the adults haha
cyan minnow
Taking the lower parts more just for sponser money haha
chrome matrix
Rp has 2 big funders
Not only stroll
But also Carlos Slim
And Mclaren has Bahrein funding (gulf oilstate)
jaunty cave
Mclaren made a chess move with bahrain.
chrome matrix
Also earlier today I read something amazing about the alpha tauri logo
chrome matrix
The logo actually is the greek letter Alpha and the greek letter Tao
Both used a lot in engineering lol
jaunty cave
Who are the sponsors, its a nice logo
Ferrari and Red Bull partnership
For RP to be independent won't they need to stop using Mercs engine.
chrome matrix
Red bull is the sponsor
Alpha tauri is a premium clothing brand from Red Bull
For the high end market
Ferrari and Red Bull partnership
@jaunty cave what?
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix I made a mistake. I was meant to ask what is the scuderia on top?
Is that part of the logo.
Thats an Italian team, so it's acting as a sister team to RB instead of a junior team.
chrome matrix
Scuderia means racing team in italian
jaunty cave
Yes, but the team scuderia alpha tauri is an Italian team you're aware of that right?
Merc also has williams
chrome matrix
Yeah
Alpha tauri is the old menardi
Also used ferrari engines until about 2013? When they switched to Renault
noble grove
jaunty cave
Onto next season lol
If Merc dominate every race 🤦♂️ 😂 😂
That would be something for the history books
Merc looking to do an unbeaten season in F1.
That would be epic!
Was albon crying in the post interview
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Stress is getting to him!
jaunty cave
He look distraught.
verbal charm
I'm so sad Max didnt win
jaunty cave
It was just luck that he even had a chance of winning ngl
verbal charm
Yea ik
But I was still sad when I saw him go around the last corner when Hamilton crossed the line
jaunty cave
Yeah
jaunty cave
I was ecstatic when Lewis crossed the line
Deserved win, controlled the race from start to finish.
Ver wont be the youngest driver to make history this year, thanks to ham. Vettel must be pleased
verbal charm
Yes
jaunty cave
That's a strong position to be in.
verbal charm
Mercedes wont let him go for a few more years
jaunty cave
I don't think he'll be a Rosberg.
Do you think Merc will go unbeaten this year
Bottas might not win another race this season if he is not careful lol
verbal charm
Thoughts on albon
jaunty cave
Albon = 💩
verbal charm
Agreed
jaunty cave
I think other drivers show sympathy such as russell
verbal charm
Russell will be good if he gets a faster car
I mean what happened to William's they had bottas and now he left and there bad
jaunty cave
I think he is overrated.
verbal charm
William's even had David coulthard I believe ages ago
Bottas is very overrated but he was decent at Williams
jaunty cave
Bottas done a better job in Williams then russell
I don't think russell is good enough either
Not fighting with Ver and Lewis
If he was he would have the drive at Merc no questions asked
jaunty cave
They dropped him for Gasly or?
jaunty cave
They all look promising in lower teams
But Gasly just didnt fit in the team and the car.
verbal charm
Yea
jaunty cave
But when you go against the champs of the sport its a different story
Psychology and mentality plays a role.
Consistency
None of them have those superior traits to live at that edge, Ver is the closest to having it.
verbal charm
Vettel tho he ain't performing
jaunty cave
I get the impression he doesn't need to
I think how Binotto treated him is a kick in the mouth.
That's my opinion though, I don't see what incentive he has to be in the top 6. He's a 4 time WC. He'll get a drive off of that.
verbal charm
Yeah
jaunty cave
He'll be competing against them when he leaves so its no benefit for him to drive to the limit
verbal charm
Yea
jaunty cave
Might as well cruise and collect the cheques until season ends
Then next year hopefully get a drive for Aston Martin.
verbal charm
You think?
verbal charm
I mean vettel for albon sounds great In my ears but surely Ferrari wouldn't let him go to redbull
verbal charm
True
verbal charm
But Ferrari would most likely to trie keep him away
verbal charm
Idk just thoughts on giving a great to a good team
jaunty cave
They'll keep albon happy for now lol
mellow lion
no one wants to be 2nd driver in rbr lol
jaunty cave
Until they find someone else lol Christian Horner knows he is 💩
verbal charm
Ngl I wanna see leclerc and verstappen in the same team
jaunty cave
RB focusing on Max and the car being hard to drive also plays a role
Having to come out and defend your driver for making mistakes and blaming the car, no team principle wants to be doing that
, it cannot be that hard to drive if you finish 2nd
verbal charm
Fair enough
jaunty cave
It's hard to beat the Merc
verbal charm
It might be the same issue for albon as gasly
jaunty cave
, it cannot be that hard to drive if you finish 2nd
@jaunty cave The times are worst then last year lol
No RB have a good car
verbal charm
I'm surprised how racing point is getting away with literally being a Mercedes
jaunty cave
Nope look at the times
It looks poor because your comparing it to the Merc
Ham is in a different league.
Compare it to the rest of them, you'll find that car is good
verbal charm
Yes
verbal charm
I wouldn't be surprised if redbull sack albon
verbal charm
Who would replace him tho
jaunty cave
Absolutely
I said that from the start
He will cost RB the season
He will cost RB the team championship
verbal charm
It was coming
jaunty cave
Max will be in no man's land
This season, because his team mate is 💩
So the best they can do is do there best with max and attempt to solidify 2nd with teams constructive.
If albon doesn't finish in top 6 in two more races.... Smh 🤦♂️ he might as well forfeit.
Nervous breakdown lol
jaunty cave
Perez could be a good fit
Latifi is struggling
Too many paid drivers not enough raw, skill and talent on the grid.
Perez to RB could be a good idee
verbal charm
Yea
turbid tartan
Gasly will
modern solstice
Gasly will
@turbid tartan he choked last season
turbid tartan
Gasly is also outperforming albon
jaunty cave
Gasly smiling
He got a life line being able to be demoted
Albon not so much lol
Racing against Ver he must be dreading it lol
Who saw Riccardo reaction when Ver was beating him consistently lol
It was in the paddock, can't remember which race it was but he was fuming 😂 😂
delicate lintel
Red Bull needs a mentally stable, purely good performance 2nd driver. #Kimiforredbull2021
jaunty cave
Lmfao
verbal charm
How old is kimi
livid hazel
Riccardo beat max in 2 out of 3 full seasons at red bull, and the one he didn't was because of a lot of dnfs because of engine/gearbox failiures. And I know u can't argue cos Hamilton fans love to blame dnfs for losing championships
jaunty cave
Lmao
placid merlin
Anyone want to talk about f1 in a chill server
verbal charm
Yea
dusty hollow
@everyone
topaz ether
jaunty cave
Who reckons Lewis hamilton could go on to win the rest of F1 races
One of the mercs will
He would go on to be the first f1 driver to do so
No bottas already one the first lol
He cant have 100% only merc can/an will probably
Which driver in history won the most races in a season in f1
Idk lol
LH could be about to change that lol
I think if bot has a good day like Austria he can also win some
1 or 2 depends in how the season calender will continue
Well Michael Schumacher and Vettel hold it
How many?
At 13 races in 18 for Ms and 13 races in 19 for Vet.
In a course of one season.
Depending on how many races there are this year. Ham might be able to change that.
LH should now be considered the greatest driver of F1 history.
😂 😂 😂
@verbal charm 51 I think
I think he has a hoarding disorder kimi
Why would you be on the grid for that long at his age and not win anything lol
Obviously bottlenecking young drivers lol
jaunty cave
It's similar to a permanent stain you can't get off lol
winged vessel
winged vessel
So we can say, that, Lewis Memes Max with 3 tires victory, lol
Sometimes, small teams hire legendary drivers for sharing experience and developing cars, maybe, the reason Kimi is there. And obviously performaning better than Gio, kinda mentoring role for mew drivers.
ivory dagger
hi everyone des fr ?
timid dragon
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jaunty cave
Some are still oblivious to his greatness and race craft 🤦♂️ those individuals will be the type to say it was thanks to the Mercedes engine lol
LH won a race on 3 tyres at his home race. Whilst 2nd place was on fresher tyres and still finished 5 seconds behind.
jaunty cave
Is Toto going to Aston Martin???
verbal charm
When I grow up I wanna be an f1 racer
livid hazel
Sorry are we all forgetting Schumacher drove a Ferrari with 3 WHEELS, not tyres, WHEELS, around the longest lap on the season? In the wet??
Also bottas drove more distance on the flat than Hamilton but couldn't push as hard cos he still had to pit not just cross the line
But yea it's mind blowing how hammy did it, when 2 other drivers also did the same thing 😂
jaunty cave
Some are still oblivious to his greatness and race craft 🤦♂️ those individuals will be the type to say it was thanks to the Mercedes engine lol
@jaunty cave ^^
xD
distant pendant
hi
jaunty cave
@verbal charm I wish you all the best on your journey, I'm sure you can get there if you put your mind to it.
verbal charm
Lol thanks
jaunty cave
Comparing apples with oranges and bananas are not the same thing. Lol
I'm confident to say LH will be the first to put most poles won into triple digits
Key word: FIRST. Lol
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Cause of his car ^^
He is good, but not 1sec faster.
The car is 1 sec faster and HAM puts the extra 0.4. But i wont argue with u about that.
Lol he could be the first to put most wins into triple digits as well.
That'd really break the hearts of the minority who oppose him lol
It's quite laughable to see that when it's ver and he does really well, some f1 fans say its how good he is and not the car, but when it's Ham, it somehow isn't him, it's the dominance of the car, yet his own team admits they don't know how he pulls out the lap times he does lol 😂
You cant say the car is not must faster and better then the others.
verbal charm
What team do you guys support
jaunty cave
Mclaren and Red Bull
livid hazel
The last 6 seasons the merc has been the quickest car by a long way, and Hamilton has had 2 team mates that never really showed proper signs of raw talent. But he still gets worshipped for some reason. He does good quali laps and looks after his tyres well but he's never been properly under pressure, apart from 2016 when rosberg upped his game.. can't remember what happened that year...
jaunty cave
Yep. Merc was good with hybrid engines. And then through feedback loops they got even better, until this year were there car is much faster, like +0.7 Quali pace or something.
Well one of there team mate beat schumacher, the other has done a better job then the current two drivers in his previous team, who are supposedly hot prospects.
Let's not forget ham also beat Alonso
Ver hasn't really been test if at all lol
Riccardo lol
Hams got to give him huge amounts of space so he doesn't crash lol
Ver thinks he can beat ham with RB
So far he has been dominated in every way
He hasn't come close, not in quali nor race days
If merc dont keep there massive car advantage in 2022 he also has more chances to beet him. That would be more exiting then the merc just being faster the last few years.
Most great drivers win at their team of origin before moving to another team, if I'm not mistaken
Alonso done it with Renault, ham done it with mclaren
Vet with RB lol
I'm waiting to see if Ver can. I think ver looks good in his era because the other drivers are not competitive enough
@jaunty cave I hope he does, I heard that two seasons back as well though and here we are, who is on top
Merc ._.
I don't think ver is good enough to compete with ham, once these new regs come in, it'll be the same thing now.
Ver is an "almost driver"
livid hazel
The 2 drivers in his previous team?? U mean Russel and latifi right.. what about other drivers that could have got into the merc like ocon? I know u like him and he would be much harder test for lewis
jaunty cave
well then we have different opinions. i think that if the cars get more balanced he can have a chance of fighting with HAM.
How long has Ver been in F1 and how many wins has he got to his name, I think less then 10 lol
jaunty cave
Yeah lol xD
I think we have to be objective here
Lewis was still getting wins in the Vettel era and being consistent.
Ver imo doesn't have it, does he have time? Yes.
livid hazel
Uhh not really he had a couple wins and got beat by Jenson in a championship
Did nothing of note until he got the best car again
And Perez looked like he had the pace to get close to him when they were team mates
jaunty cave
How long has Ver been in F1 and how many wins has he got to his name, I think less then 10 lol
@jaunty cave Yep 8 in 5 years with RB
livid hazel
The same amount as? Anyone?
jaunty cave
Valteri xD
livid hazel
Hahaha gd man 😂
But yeah he's a really strong team mate
Put bottas in the red bull I doubt he'd get 8 podiums
jaunty cave
In this years RB HAM would also struggel xD
livid hazel
Haha yeah most would tbf
jaunty cave
@jaunty cave 8 wins in 5 lol so hopefully he'll get 9 in another 5 maybe lol
livid hazel
I hope they don't put gasly back in the red bull, the pressure of being at a top team broke him last time and I think it would again
jaunty cave
Ham won't struggle against max lol
Ver doesn't come close lol
He's only a hot prospect
livid hazel
Hamilton's an old man then
jaunty cave
Keyword: Prospect lol
Lmao cause of his car xD
Get of off that HAM is 1sec faster then erverybody chair
Ham is that quick because he pulls everything out the car
Then bottas should be doing the same
If i were to follow your logic of it being the result of the car.
@livid hazel an old man no one can beat lol
livid hazel
Mate I got to stop lookin at this chat I CBA doing this much typing to delusional Hamilton fans
jaunty cave
😂 😂
livid hazel
I hope bottas takes Hamilton out at the start and Norris pulls some magic to win
jaunty cave
No. The difference between them is that HAM is a better driver, cause im not saying hes bad. But his car is just fast cause of broken feedback loops in F1.
verbal charm
Lol
jaunty cave
@verbal charm ver is the best they got lol
No. The difference between them is that HAM is a better driver, cause im not saying hes bad. But his car is just fast cause of broken feedback loops in F1.
About why HAM is better then BOT^^
jaunty cave
That's why everyone loves the gladiator lol
verbal charm
Albon isn't gonna do anything
jaunty cave
That's why everyone is routing for max lol
livid hazel
Even if he get close Hamilton will smash him off the road
jaunty cave
Lmao yes xD
In my opinion though, he is a dying saviour as ever year passes and ham stays on top.
Can't take you 6 years to win a season lol
That's if he's lucky lol
He is looking at 9 or 10 lol
10 tries in F1 then you finally win a WC lol
Just insert "HAM is only so much better cause of his car" everytime you say he is the best so i dont have to do anything pls.
😂 😂
livid hazel
😂😂
verbal charm
Raikkonen will be close to retiring
verbal charm
He 41 year old
jaunty cave
Ahah
verbal charm
Well turning 41
jaunty cave
Just driving collecting cheques lol
verbal charm
Lol
jaunty cave
That's literally it lol
@jaunty cave Because it is. lol
But im not argueing anymore with u xD
xD
livid hazel
Kimi is my fav thing in F1 this year apart from Norris
verbal charm
Verstappen leclerc Norris my 3 favourite drivers
jaunty cave
Lol
livid hazel
Oh god
jaunty cave
I had too lol
livid hazel
Hahaha
verbal charm
Driving f1 would be fun
jaunty cave
It was on the tip of my tongue and leaked out lol
livid hazel
It's ok mate we all know u blindly follow whoever's winning 😜
jaunty cave
Haha
verbal charm
Lewis is soon to retire being 35 years
jaunty cave
That is prime age
verbal charm
He wont tho
jaunty cave
Driving past 40 I don't see what else would be the point
verbal charm
The money that's why
jaunty cave
I'm todays economy money can be made in so many different ways lol he sure wouldn't struggle away from F1 cheques
verbal charm
Yes
verbal charm
He has lots of time
jaunty cave
The only thing is it would have taken him a lot of years to do so lol
verbal charm
Yes
jaunty cave
That's quite telling lol
verbal charm
It will
verbal charm
Lol
Honestly William's is now useless they were only good when the had David coulthard
jaunty cave
Yeah I think Claire ran the team to the ground
verbal charm
Yep
jaunty cave
Now she wants to cash out lol
verbal charm
Lol
jaunty cave
Haha typical
jaunty cave
👍
jaunty cave
Protesting is commencing for RP and Renault
verbal charm
Lol
sinful dagger
Ola
chrome matrix
Bottas confirmed for merc seat 2021
chrome matrix
Wouldve expexted Ham to be confirmed before bot, perhaps somrthi g in negotiations?
jaunty cave
Naah HAM will stay withvmerc till he retires most prob
livid hazel
Can't blame Merc but what a boring choice, never fast enough to challenge hamilton for a title, just about quick enough to garuntee the constructors title.. perfect for mercedes bad for viewers
delicate lintel
So true
jaunty cave
So is George going to be a long term Williams driver
Sainz I think he may mount a title challenge in 2021.
He'll be the one to end the Merc reign when he joins ferrari.
delicate lintel
You know that’s a BIIIIIIG IF. Ferrari actually improving their performance to be able to compete for championship
jaunty cave
They'll be back to winning ways.
delicate lintel
I wouldn’t hold my breath for that
jaunty cave
Leclerc and Sainz that's a strong combination
delicate lintel
It is, but also a trouble some combination
Not sure yet which is better as a driver
But Ferrari is also about politics.
jaunty cave
How long has sainz signed for?
chrome matrix
They'll be back to winning ways.
@jaunty cave people have been saying that for almost 15 years
I believe a williams championship has been more recent? Or the kimi one?
delicate lintel
@jaunty cave 2 years
jaunty cave
He has a chance at glory, it would be terrible to see Ferrari become a mid table team
Fighting with their sister car
chrome matrix
I believe a williams championship has been more recent? Or the kimi one?
@chrome matrix 0h mistaked with brawn gp
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix Ferrari have been close in the last 2 years
Vettel made some mistakes.
chrome matrix
Ayy, they were close because of dodgy tactics
When fia had the talk with them, they were nowhere to be seen
chrome matrix
Every big constructor has
jaunty cave
Do you think Merc are doing it
chrome matrix
No clue
jaunty cave
How ecstatic must bottas be. Ha 🤡
Having these one year contracts, totally on Mercs terms
It'll be interesting to see if they offer ham a 1 year as well.
Bottas I will get a solid driver anywhere having Merc on the resume
stable rivet
You guys know, that second GB GP will not be with rain, so maybe we will have same situation like we had in first race
jaunty cave
I don't think it will be the same
Tyre strategy will change things up
Teams will definitely look to make great use from last week's data on tyre wear.
RB will come out hunting for the win this week
Like starving hyenas on a isolated lion in the safari terrain in East Africa.
delicate lintel
Idk about that. I support Red Bull but hoping they can get a better set up this round, still that’s maybe 0.3 sec. Ham was 1 sec ahead last round so qualifying is merc 1-2 no doubt. Race pace was closer but still Ham was 15-18 sec ahead, Bot 9 sec ahead. Even with 2 safety cars. What Red Bull can expect is 2nd at the best if there is nothing to twist things up
jaunty cave
Well, if we were to go on your thesis then another 4-5 more straight wins for Merc, seasons pretty much the Mercs. Merc might as well go on early vacation.
I think RB has something up there sleeve this round
Christian reminds me of a witty fox 🦊
Hopefully albon produces a decent result
If he finishes out the top 5 again, do you think RB will be concerned
Perez could be back
delicate lintel
If Albon misses out top5, I think they will indeed be concerned. Horner says it’s the car but That’s pretty much just a political comment.
I do like Albon though of his fighting spirit to find any chances of sticking his car into any gap he finds. Some might say it’s stupid and it has costed him points so many times but still.
verbal charm
Heyoooo
chrome matrix
@jaunty cave next time its better to just pm me (or an online mod) that in stead of copying or quoting the message
jaunty cave
True could have thought of that. I pinged you cause no other öod was on from what i saw.
chrome matrix
I was having dinner lol and am on holiday... trying to convince my girlfriwnd to go to Monza next week 😂
But from what I can tell the automod deleted all the messages foof that guy
cedar rock
I banned him because a couple post made it
chrome matrix
Ahh that explains
jaunty cave
@delicate lintel that's the advantage Merc. They're much more calculative then the rest
It's not so much what they gain that gives them a competitive advantage, its what they don't lose.
It'll be interesting to see Perez in the mix
This weekend
delicate lintel
Is Perez confirmed to race this weekend? I think he is still pending for the COVID test
winged vessel
news says per will race
chrome matrix
Yeah he has a pending test
jaunty cave
He has completed the UK quarantine
delicate lintel
I did a quick search for articles but all of them were saying he is pending for negative result of COVID test
But damn, Hulk is really a poor guy with no luck at all. He couldn’t even race with this opportunity
winged vessel
!politics!
native harbor
Mercedes going to win every race seems like. No competition at all
Either Bottas or Hamilton
indigo dew
Good morning
rocky kraken
So is Hulk racing or nah?
chrome matrix
Depends on covid test for perez
jaunty cave
@native harbor King Lewis at the rightful throne of F1 lol
😂 😂
Whoever wants the throne must take it lol
Christian Horner needs a win within the next 5 races or else you might as well call it a night and play golf
Latifi needs to improve or I don't think he'll stay long in F1
quick sentinel
Okay I have a question, since hulkenberg is confirmed to replace Perez this weekend, will any points he earn go to Perez?
severe kiln
Nico is in for Perez after confirmed positive covid test
Tracing point have been fined!
€400,000 and 15 points
jaunty cave
I downloaded the Prtest and when i uploaded i just saw your message xD
modern solstice
Okay I have a question, since hulkenberg is confirmed to replace Perez this weekend, will any points he earn go to Perez?
@quick sentinel no
quick sentinel
But won’t that put Perez at a disadvantage
modern solstice
should of protected himself better
jaunty cave
Cant always be 100% sure to not infect yourself
Cant blame him for getting infeccted
modern solstice
mexico are in the top 5-10 for new cases daily, and he flew there to see his mum
he knew the risks
im not saying what he done was wrong
because family over job i would also choose 100%
jaunty cave
Yeah so you cant blame him for that xD
modern solstice
hes not fighting for a championship so it doesnt matter
now if it was a merc or redbull family member.. would hamilton bottas verstappen go anad risk infection?
i mean.. they could wear a hazmat suit with oxygen tank to not get infected but thats crazy stuff
severe kiln
Way to crazy
steady field
oh sorry. thank you
jaunty cave
nullos problemos
RP have been fined but still be allowed to run it
I'm sure they can make those points back though
RB still 7 tenths off 🤦♂️
Nico having the time of his life in RP
Quite tight with RB and RP
If you ignore the merc car the fight is quite good
I think the top two will be exciting
Only a 10th off
The battle of the titans
Hulk could come 4th in the race
3rd at best on race pace
Naah Hulk luck would not let him get podium
short cave
Why giovinazzi never race?
jaunty cave
He gets replaced in alot of FP's with Kubica
He races and is driving in FP2 and 3
@short cave maybe not good enough
But then they would just get Kubica as a whole back or?
@jaunty cave well hulk put that car 4th that will boost his confidence
Highest he has ever done
Until he gets spun out xD
But yeah
We'll have to see on that
I think he may give Ver a run for his money
Checo has another Positive test with even more virus% so he'll most probably not recover in one week.
I think he may give Ver a run for his money
@jaunty cave Naah he wont be good enough o beet Max atm
rocky kraken
@jaunty cave so hulk couldn't achieve 4th with a Renault but can with a RP merc powered car. Definitely can't be the case with Ham Pam right?
Ham Pam in a Renault 
jaunty cave
Your reading too much into the times
Wait until race day.
Don't compare hulk to lewis 🤦♂️
Come on! Hulk hasn't even sniffed a podium before
I don't think
Comparing apples with rocks lol
Can hulk put that RP 1st on race day
I think that car has the potential to be fighting for top 2
chrome matrix
Does that mean that FI has to develop a new car for 2021 where other teams dont?
Any team would do the same if it happened to their direct rivals @short cave
Its part of the game, trying to find loopholes
And for other teams to check no rules have been broken
short cave
Others copy u can copy also
Don’t need to complain and lodge protest
No sportsmanship at all
chrome matrix
Depends about the part
Some parts are on a list and are allowed to be bought
Other parts not, the break ducts are not allowed to be purchased and need to be manufactured and designed by the team itself
livid hazel
With the jump in pace the car took over the winter, they will barely notice the 15 point penalty. And they still allowed to use the same brake ducts so no performance lost. Really hope someone appeals it
chrome matrix
Well I'm guessing brake ducts don't earn 15pts over a season
And that was the part under review rn
timid dragon
they won;t have time to make a new one before next GP
they got they penalty thats it
chrome matrix
Yep
livid hazel
Look at where they were last year to now, 15 points could have been 3-5 races worth of points for them last year, they can recover it a hell of a lot easier this year
Also McLaren and Renault have made a legal jump forward in pace and RPs jump is partly illegal, but they are allowed to keep the illegal parts on
chrome matrix
Either you don't understand, or you haven't read what was being protested
Its not the entire car which had been protested - heck FIA declared rest of the car legal after early season testing
The punishment is specific for the brake ducts
In no aero specialist or anything but I cannot imagine brake ducts "earn" 15 pts over the course of a year
fresh lark
They helped Mercedes last year though who knows how much
livid hazel
Didnt mean to send the pics 😂
Also Ferraris engine was only one part of the car, so should they have had a 15 point penalty but still been able to break the rules with it all year.
livid hazel
Haha I just figured out how to edit it
chrome matrix
I think we can all agree that Ferrari punishes themselves enough over thee course of a year 🤣
livid hazel
Let's get them some brake ducts from last year's merc 😂
I'm gutted tbh sainz and leclerc could be intense but it's gna be a midfield battle
chrome matrix
That will not correct the power deficit they have lol
livid hazel
One bonus next year, if the merc engine is still the best it will be getting used by Riccardo and Norris 😊
Soon as wel talk about Ferrari and engines sebs goes pop
chrome matrix
Depends how they integrate the engine
The engine philosophies if renault and merc are entirely different
So chassis needs to change, chances are that like Rb's change to Honda, it will be difficult at first
livid hazel
I hope they get it right I can't deal with another season of great drivers in bad cars
jaunty cave
Ric at 3rd should that be worth taking into consideration
Albon didn't even make it in the top 10 🤦♂️
These cars are all too confusing
winged vessel
beauty of Rici, he is leaving the team still motivated, Vettel can learn
zinc tide
Hey is ther a Good app to F1 ?
jaunty cave
Did max have issues today in p2
He done the least amount of laps then the rest
RP could be in a sticky situation from the verdict
Teams may smell blood and look to protest more
delicate lintel
Yeah it’s interesting what they will do next and what other teams will do. Now Vettel going to race point is not that much of a good idea
quick sentinel
Okay I’m just getting into f1, started really enjoying it this season but I have a very basic question. What does the live timing signify, because often I see cars that have a larger time behind the interval after a pit stop ahead of drivers with smaller times behind the interval.
chrome matrix
Depends
Its better than nothing
And with Aston Martin coming in as sponsor things might change for them as well
inner pecan
opps wrong discord lol
jaunty cave
How come max ran so little today
chrome matrix
Dunno, from the interviews it hasn't been asked about
But max seemed happy about today's results
How many laps did he do and how many did other teams do?
jaunty cave
Teams may smell blood and look to protest more
@jaunty cave Rari actually protested that RP are still alowed to use the brake ducts xD
inner pecan
15 in fp2 compaired to average of 24 ish
24in fp1 most ran was 28 stil more than ham and bottas
chrome matrix
What I understood from the interviews he said they had run all the programs they wanted to run
So if all is good, why waste more tyres I guess? Isk
Idk
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix he done 15 whilst the rest done laps in their 20's and 30's.
Yeah I guess so.
Do you think Rics lap was genuine
Good to see him in p3 for change
chrome matrix
His lap was on soft tho, like I've said many times before
Its practixe
Dont read too much into the times lol
jaunty cave
It's hard not to lol
I have a gut feeling RB have something up their sleeve
For tomorrow or race day lol
I don't know what it is but it's something
I don't think Merc is going to control the pace like they did last week
@jaunty cave did you hear what mclaren CEO said
He smells blood. Hes thinking of questioning everything and claiming its just the starting point
Toto is defending RP. I hope it don't turn ugly
I don't see teams staying quiet if RP keeps putting their car with the top mix
inner pecan
ferrari mclaren and renault apealing the punishment
that didnt take to long for more teams to pile presure on
jaunty cave
Williams also might jump on too
Knowing Claire toto will have a word and she'll likely not kick up a huge fuss
winged vessel
Thats why myself and Lewis will move to Aston Martin, may be
I am working on it, 🤣
Its just Concord agreement, basically. AMG like to spend cash, Concord agreement cuts expenses and spending.
News editors basically, type a spicy headline to attract clicks and likes.
jaunty cave
@winged vessel that is the first thing I look for. How Credible is the writer
Andrew Benson, I don't recall him being on F1 board in anyway or having any influence
jaunty cave
Never heard of Andrew Benson, can't take nothing from bbc at a face value, chief F1 writer at silverton lol
rocky kraken
Allow hammie to become a MP for the labour party
jaunty cave
Ham will do his talking on the track
I doubt he'll want to join Labour.
This weekend he will bring the fireworks
And let them off
Lol 😂 😂
Whilst Bringing the rest of the drivers back to 🚸
rocky kraken
Hamilton said I can't negotiate a BIG contract right now its just not right when people are losing jobs...what the hell is he trying to do .freaking fruit cake of the highest note. He should be knighted Sir Fruit Cake of the Spicy Girls
jaunty cave
Lool 😂
I read that just now too
Yeah I agree. Not quite sure what he's looking to achieve.
I think possibly leverage
He has immense power in the sport
I don't think he is doing wrong with it either, he's looking through the lens of the next 25-50 years.
rocky kraken
Whether he signs it now or December people will still be losing jobs. Why is this person like this? Its like I don't want media attention but I want media attention 🤦♂️
jaunty cave
As I said he is looking through a lens for the next 25-50 even 100 years
And i think he knows the chances are ridiculously high that not another driver, similar to his background will touch the grid again.
rocky kraken
So his making Mercedes sweat. What happens if he doesn't become champion this year. Then I will be looking through the lens for any deal
rocky kraken
Big gamble looking at last week's near DNF
Unreliability and accidents is a very dangerous thing to be naive about
His gambling
Of course my odds are against him for the title and his gamble
jaunty cave
It is a gamble, how big it is, is hard to say. One thing is for sure though, F1 will be paying close attention. Ham has proved his loyalty to this sport, given his life and service for this sport and its impact has been more good then bad.
So it's not so much about him, it's more so about F1.
rocky kraken
If toto leaves to Aston Martin Hamilton will regret not signing now
jaunty cave
I don't think Toto has that much of a great impact.
Toto and ham are a small part of the chain
rocky kraken
Do you think F1 will pressure merc into a contract negotiation when it suits ham?
jaunty cave
You're making the concern about an individual which isn't the case.
rocky kraken
We will have to see. Germans are none for being ruthless when forced into contract negotiations and sponsors don't have the money they had last year
Known
jaunty cave
Merc have the best driver in this era and who will make history
rocky kraken
I'm not referring to the BBC report. That is hogwash and we all know it
jaunty cave
That driver is the hottest driver in the paddock
rocky kraken
I'm referring to ham and his contract negotiation statement
Nah bruh his a minger. You think his hot? Lol
jaunty cave
@rocky kraken you're entitled to your opinion, some would beg to defer though.
It usually does end up being the case when your at the top for so long, the minority few won't like you.
Him not signing a contract, becomes speculation to others as to the reasons why. Only he knows why.
rocky kraken
Now it makes sense why you're fixated on Hamilton. You're attracted to him. Wow plot twist. It all makes sense his copping heat over here and you defending like the Italian national football team. You defend your bae bro. Good on you 🤦♂️
jaunty cave
I'm defending any driver that can beat the competition.
What I find laughable is your distastefulnesss for someone who makes the least amount of mistakes on the grid, not only, you insult any one who shares a different opinion from you.
Now back to F1: it seems that their hunting in 3's, what I suspect will be ferrari, Mclaren, Renault looking to put more pressure on RP by disputing the sanctions.
upbeat wedge
Very strong defence of the car from RP
split finch
Yo i heard you guys got a ps4 league?
jaunty cave
RP are not backing out
Alot of traffic atm
Knowing some teams have done worst in the past
I think its quite a lot of pressure being put on them
inner pecan
be interesting to see how meny teams pile on the pressure for rp can see it being more than the 3 teams so far
never mind 5 teams lol
tame parcel
inner pecan
max starting on hard may make things slightly interesting
mortal rose
Hulkenberg P3
short cave
Stupid Bottas... hate him
analog sapphire
Wowwwww HULK 💪
rocky kraken
Bottas bomb 💣
jaunty cave
It'll be interesting to see whether he can hold on to that tomorrow though
rocky kraken
Bottas P1, Hulk P2, Hamjam P3
upbeat wedge
Decent from ric as well
upbeat wedge
Shame it's weighed down by stroll though
rocky kraken
Nah Hulk P2, uncut and managing a one stop
upbeat wedge
Not sure hulks fitness is high enough to finish top 3
jaunty cave
Ricccardio, does he have a shot at podium tomorrow
jaunty cave
I think RB will be going for it
They'll do long stint early and then turn it up in the middle or end of the race
On softs
rocky kraken
Tyre strategy will determine where they finish
jaunty cave
Race should be more exciting then last weekend
rocky kraken
Well engineers are taking the temperature drop as a spanner in the works for the last 25 laps
jaunty cave
If bottas makes a mistake it could be a nightmare
upbeat wedge
How many other starting on hard?
jaunty cave
He can easily drop to 4th
I'm not sure, I didnt watch Q2.
Wouldn't mediums be a better option then the hard
I think RB are on mediums for the race.
upbeat wedge
Verstapen definitely on hards to start
jaunty cave
How many lap difference between mediums and hards do you know?
If Ver on Hard, I think last 25 laps are going to be interesting
RP looks very quick so it won't be easy getting past hulk
upbeat wedge
Think hard were 40 meds 25
upbeat wedge
Looks like he may be the only one on hards
jaunty cave
Then all out, It'll either be 2 or 3 stop
I'm telling you Christian Horner is a witty fox
I know he has a plan tomorrow lol
The only let down is Albon
Hulk could get that drive also at RB if he continues to deliver
upbeat wedge
I like the fact they're willing to try something, could follow the crowd and guarantee 3rd
livid hazel
Hulk on it today 👌🏼
jaunty cave
What hulk done today, Perez should of done
Instead he kept talking a lot.
Hulk has come in and put that car 3rd. If Perez is unable to do that he isn't good enough
That car is very quick
livid hazel
It's a track that suits the car though, Perez was doing a good job in it. Not as good as I thought though cos hulks just made stroll look very weak
Bottas took hammy back to 🚸 @jaunty cave
And Riccardo is hammering ocon
jaunty cave
@livid hazel lool he did.
Even though he went quicker. Bottas brought him back to 🚸
ham could of made it 8 he'll need to wait until next year now
Bottas is good, those types of performance is why I like him, he has no consistency
Which is what I don't like about him.
livid hazel
Yeah he wud be a threat with any consistency, will still come second tomorrow and then fade away for a few races
jaunty cave
I agree which is annoying
Because I think he is really really good
But then he has another side to him which I just can't stand. He's passive when he ought to be aggressive and vice verse.
I'd like to see him earn his win tomorrow. Whether ham forces a mistake out of him, that could end up being another story.
livid hazel
He won't win I don't think, 2 stops minimum is 2 chances for Hamilton to under or over cut him without the team risking any of that dangerous wheel to wheel racing.
chrome matrix
What do you guys think, verstappen might try a 1 stop with hard medium?
Or will it be hard medium soft as stints?
upbeat wedge
Don't think anyone has softs left, they burnt through them in practice and quali
1 stop hard after 35 laps then hope mediums hang till the end
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix possibly hard and mediums for ver
Going with soft as well maybe too much
Ham and bottas showed mediums can go quick.
Soft may fall off too quickly if they push too hard, so might cost them time in the pits
I love F1 for this very reason, strategy lol
Or they may go hards and soft, whatever they do, I think they'll go on the offensive.
While Merc may attempt to control the pace
chrome matrix
Yeah with these Temps it was said that mediums are almost as fast
And sometimes faster than the softs
winged vessel
the gap to RP and RB would be huge with tire difference. HULK is more experienced than MAX
delicate lintel
He is experienced but he is not better
chrome matrix
Yeah I'm guessing g the rp won't be a match for max his rb
But both stroll and hulk will be faster than albon
On racepace
jaunty cave
It's going to spice things up
jaunty cave
Let's see if Ver can make the pass tomorrow on hulk
jaunty cave
Yep
delicate lintel
Kinda but not entirely. The car isn’t fitting Vettel for sure. Drivers have their preference. Oversteer, understeer, high downforce, low downforce etc. Ferrrari’s low down force isn’t Vettel’s taste
vague elbow
Hulk un third place!!
jaunty cave
@delicate lintel I don't see the hunger from him though
I don't want to get carried away with hulk, overtime we'll see how good he is, if he can take that car to the top.
What is clear to see though is that car in and of itself, at minimum, should be fighting with p3.
It has the pace to do so.
And that stroll should be dumped if they wanted to focus on winning and not getting money
@jaunty cave that's not going to happen.
Yep
the cars been built for him.
But others are performing much better in it lol xD
I agree, but your dad owns it
What stroll jr wants stroll jr gets
I don't think stroll is good enough, but the business behind it makes the car what it is
Seeing hulks performance makes me question Perez. I think that car can surpass RB and be handsomely rewarded for this season and next.
If they can come second in drivers and team constructors.
chrome matrix
Tbh stroll is performing better than perez so far in this car. Stroll has become a decent driver in a good car - but to say the RP is better than the RB is just laughable :')
mortal rose
At least stroll doesnt ask his dad to be #1 in the team, he still claws his way up
jaunty cave
No one said RP is better then RB, I made the point that RP has the potential to surpass RB, the lap times between them are much smaller then what you see then with RB and the Merc.
Stroll on several occasions loses positions when it comes to raceday. The last race was clear to see.
Today hulk should show an alternative view of how well RP is, providing he doesn't crash or get hit.
civic halo
twilit viper
Morning
jaunty cave
How epic is F1 theme song
If they don't play this at my funeral I'm not going.
Super Epico
winged vessel
Lets support Mercedes for a win today!
Racing point has better package than RP in aero circuits, i can confirm that.
jaunty cave
@winged vessel RP has a better package then RP?
Not quite sure I follow what you mean.
Most prob RB he ment but idk
timid dragon
Racing Point Strong ! I support Lawrence Stroll
stable rivet
Let's go, race is starting
upbeat wedge
Vet spin?
stable rivet
SBINNALLA
mortal rose
Hulkenberg need to get that 3rd spot
stable rivet
I dont think hulk will get 3rd
upbeat wedge
He'll do well to finish 4th
stable rivet
Racing point car have no chance to speed out red bull
upbeat wedge
Unless it's got albon in it
upbeat wedge
Mercedes have tyre issues after 6 laps
upbeat wedge
Could make the race more interesting
stable rivet
Albon in pit already
upbeat wedge
Tactical I think
upbeat wedge
Looks like they'll all come now
stable rivet
I think
mortal rose
If bottas has problem with his tyre, then those behind him are worse since they dont have clean air
jaunty cave
Lets see if gasly is faster in Alpha tauri then Albon in Red Bull xD
upbeat wedge
Advantage of a 2 stop race is the Windows are bigger
stable rivet
Yeah, that ridiculous
timid dragon
muting the channel has there is too much spoiler for me, i don't watch the race live