ideal 2nd driver
#๐โreal-f1-chat
jaunty cave
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chrome matrix
not enough potential to try and overtake the king of the team
jaunty cave
No wonder why most are routing for Verstappen
jaunty cave
Loool
chrome matrix
they already wanted change after 4 years of Red bull even though it had 2 or 3 really exciting seasons
jaunty cave
I just don't see how any of the drivers on the grid will do it
Lewis is obsessed you do know that right
chrome matrix
well I can see how Verstappen and how Leclerc can do it
but honestly they need the right material
right now im afraid they don't have
but tbh we need to wait and see what happens tomorrow in Q3
and sunday in the race
to be sure
jaunty cave
I knew Lewis was obsessed when he got out his car and attempted to push his car to the finish line some years back.
Do you think Verstappen and leclerc can beat Lewis in equal machines?
chrome matrix
Yeah for sure
I rate both verstappen and Leclerc as better drivers than rosberg
and rosberg could do it
jaunty cave
Valid point. Some say on the paddock that he also made Rosberg retire when he did.
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mystic aurora
chrome matrix
yeah that happened quite quickly after fp1
but rumours are is to get it validated by FIA, so they can use their own version of it
but guess those are just rumours
mystic aurora
They're making a decision on Sat. before FP3 according the article.
chrome matrix
yea so Im curious what will be decided
and what will come out of RB sleeve if it does get approved
jaunty cave
Not so good. They have a different suspencion so it would be rather difficult to change the car without making the whole front axe new
chrome matrix
@jaunty cave Apparantly Verstappens front wing broke on the first lap - so that explains perhaps the spins and laptimes of his rb
jaunty cave
Albon had similiar problems...
chrome matrix
Albon might've been running heavier fuel loads
but yeah tbh, its all speculation lol
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix well hopefully RB can sort it before tomorrow, so we can see some competitive racing, I want to see some real action this year! Not see Lewis sitting idle on top of time sheets. Lol
jaunty cave
Albon seems too nice! Lol ๐ This sport doesn't welcome such appeasement when the competition is on lol
Or maybe I'll be surprised and see such niceness put him at the front of the grid.
@Dazzler do you know whether Red Bull will still be with Aston Martin, when Aston Martin come into the sport next year with Racing Point?
chrome matrix
What I understood from commentary today is that rbr will not be cooperating with AM
But Red Bull Technologies will, thats the wing developing the valkyrie
jaunty cave
Hello anyone here?
@chrome matrix oh I see. So Red Bull going down a similar route as Mc Claren lol
Do you think Red Bull will ever win champions again?
They've never seemed a threat ever since Vettel left for Ferrari.
Or a serious one that is.
past owl
I'd like to think so. Verstappen is great, but they can't seem to land a solid 2nd
jaunty cave
I agree, I think he is great. I find though that if Red bull didn't have him how far down the grid could they be.
past owl
I'm late to this channel... but did I read that Sainz has a Ferrari seat?
yea they haven't been keeping pace overall. he's stretching their machine to points, but few could do it like that
oak lily
im a very new f1 fan so if what i say is stupid feel free to just tell me๐ .. If we dont know where Vettel is going after Ferari, if he went back to Redbull as a number 2 to Verstappen, do you guys think that would be a good, championship winning team?
also that said, Leclerc to have a good year as he will be Feraris main focus
past owl
I think RBR has such a deep pool of young guys that they wouldn't pay an aging Vettel to hold serve for now. Albon can run with Vettel, imo
winged vessel
Leclerc will be series 5 Epic next season then
jaunty cave
I don't see Sainz bringing much pressure to Lewis, maybe to leclerc.
past owl
I love Leclerc, but Sainz is consistently strong and very competitive. they might have issues if he's keeping pace with Leclerc early
Sainz can't run with Lewis, no...
jaunty cave
Vettel doesn't want to go too far down the grid
past owl
but with the budget regulations next season, I'm excited to finally see the drivers get to flex instead of the machines
jaunty cave
He won't be respected lol
oak lily
Vettel is gon go lone wolf this season
jaunty cave
Can't leave ferrari and then be fighting at the back of the grid lol
past owl
Kimi is going to win every race ๐
past owl
YouTube his on-board radio highlights. they are gold
jaunty cave
Vettel will do what he has always done, race to win.
oak lily
what do you think has been entertaining me thoughout this lockdown?๐
jaunty cave
I think he'll want to make a statement and beat leclerc, he sort of has to.
past owl
dunno about you guys... but I liked Ricciardo until I watched the Netflix doc.
can't stand him now. he's a child
jaunty cave
If he doesn't his value will go down
oak lily
yeah Vettel is gonna try to prove a point
jaunty cave
@past owl I'll need to listen lol ๐
past owl
always a Vettel fan, but I think he's run his course at this point. former champ. nothing more.
oak lily
imo hes just trying to get that last big payday
as in his last big contract that will set him up for retirement
past owl
who's the next champ not named Hamilton? I'm banking on Verstappen or Leclerc
jaunty cave
I'm backing Lewis lol
I'm not a fan of his style
I'm a huge fan of his ability and skill. How he is able to master his craft so well and eloquently.
Makes it look simple to the eye.
oak lily
im backing Verstappen but i think if George Russel was in a better machine and further up the grid he would be a top contender
all tho im always happy to see Lewis win, how could i not being from the UK๐
jaunty cave
I'm also backing Perez
I fancy Perez for 3rd.
If he can race the wheels off RP this season, give Verstappen something to think about.
That should be great entertainment this season.
oak lily
im really looking foward to this season
jaunty cave
What do you guys think about the ingenious idea of the DAS?
Will it prove its weight in gold this year... The concept is clever.
oak lily
its... new
are every team using it this season? because i noticed it being used on the Mercedes but not the Feraris
jaunty cave
I'm not entirely sure about Ferrari, in relation to RBR they have designed their own but are also protesting it I think.
oak lily
confusing times for someone who started watching f1 this season...๐
im not completely oblivious, had 4 months of lockdown to get educated
past owl
go watch that doc I mentioned. catch up on the last 2 seasons of F1. you'll be an expert
oak lily
whats it called?
oak lily
ill search f1 into netflix when i get into bed
thats 3 sports i actively keep up with now.. i think thats enough๐
past owl
being an American, I've grown up on nascar and muscle cars, and while I'm a huge racing fan, I've been F1 ignorant until about 2-3 years ago
it's easily the pinnacle of motorsport
oak lily
im very ignorant to motorsport
jaunty cave
I also think Ocon will be a problem for some drivers on the grid
I really like ocon. He is underrated highly
past owl
really? I'd bet Russell rinses Ocon in same car
jaunty cave
@past owl nah I don't think George has what it takes
oak lily
i think Russel rinses most of the racers on that grid in a top 3 car
past owl
the thing about Russell is that he's supposed to be as good as Ver and Lec, but we've never seen him in a decent machine
jaunty cave
He was asking Mercedes to take a chance on him lol
oak lily
Idk what you guys call the different tiers but yano what i mean, Merc, RBR and Ferari
i think if you put Rus in a Mercedes he will be a champion in a couple of years
past owl
yea, the big 3. that whole idea will be gone (hopefully) in 2021
with the budget leveling
jaunty cave
You need to deserve and earn your place in F1, not think because you came up from the youth program your entitled lol
oak lily
yh i dont like the budget system in f1, its so unfair
jaunty cave
@past owl you think he is better then ocon lol
jaunty cave
@past owl I can't go off that, lol I go off results
past owl
well, before they reach F1, they have all their juniors and F2 credentials, right?
jaunty cave
I don't see Russell outpacing the likes of Verstappen.
past owl
Russell, if I'm not mistaken, is considered one of the most dominant juniors ever.
jaunty cave
Well he hasn't dominated anything in F1 yet lol
jaunty cave
That shouldn't matter.
past owl
my Optima turbo can run with a Williams lol
jaunty cave
Your driving ability in any car should shine through. I'll watch him this season
past owl
yea, if you're discounting a driver because they don't get points in a Williams, that's not a fair shake
put Russell in the mid tier (McLaren, RS, Haas) and he's a player
jaunty cave
I discount him because I don't see nothing new he does then any of the drivers he is racing with at the bottom end of the grid
I'll watch him this season though. I know the running of Williams has been appalling under claire
She has done a terrible job lol
past owl
I haven't watched his juniors archives or anything, but by word of mouth I've heard he's a stalker, like Verstappen. we can't see him being brilliant because his car never runs down anyone.
I'd like to see him somewhere else
yea she frustrates me
jaunty cave
She is just cashing out williams to the highest bidder
oak lily
oops now i realise swearing is deleted by bots
i see that poopoo owners are a thing in f1 too ๐ฆ
jaunty cave
@past owl lol ๐ whatever car you have on the grid you should be able to light up the track.
Alonso didn't have the greatest of cars with mc claren, yet he still drove the socks off the machine.
oak lily
but when youre racing against the best in the world surely the slightest differences in the machines will make a huge difference
past owl
yea but alonso was tilted in that mclaren
they basically drove him out of the sport with their inability to give him a car
jaunty cave
I'm pretty sure verstappen is doing the same for Red Bull
past owl
yea Red Bull has no business being #3 in my opinion
jaunty cave
Loool
past owl
Verstappen is making them look like gods
jaunty cave
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past owl
he wins races in a 4th or 5th place machine
been in this server for hours and not one time has the name Bottas come up. lol
poor guy
jaunty cave
I think this year might raise questions if that car gets stuck behind perez
past owl
imagine being Hamilton's teammate
oak lily
lmao i was gonna bring Bottas up earlier
jaunty cave
Haha
oak lily
...only to ask if you think he will leave Merc
past owl
Bottas is in a #1 car (obviously) and still doesn't podium as often as Verstappen. He's consistent, which Toto can deal with....
oak lily
lmao
past owl
but when do they get a wizard and have him actually race Hamilton
jaunty cave
Give Verstappen the same machinery I think Lewis will only get better.
past owl
really?
jaunty cave
Lewis will turn verstappen into Vettel. Make him make mistakes lol
past owl
even arguing Hamilton isn't the best is blasphemy, I think....but in equal cars, I'd wager there are a few that can run with him
his preparation and 'mental' are just so far ahead of everyone else
jaunty cave
You could of said the same with schumacher in his day.
oak lily
^^
jaunty cave
It should be up to other teams to take his throne not say if we had the same machinery I'd win lol
past owl
I've always felt wet races were the great equalizer
and the best wet drivers were the 'best drivers' imo
which is why I still mourn losing Senna
jaunty cave
@past owl that's a good point
jaunty cave
I think leclerc has it made in Ferrari, he's just a brand
past owl
when it rains, everyone else just kinda shrugs and chases 2nd
jaunty cave
He'll win some good races but overall I think he'll turn out to be a business brand lol
oak lily
of course Lewis is good when it rains... hes from England
jaunty cave
@past owl I agree.
past owl
I really like Lec, but having spent the quarantine watching races almost nonstop, i'm a little put off by his inconsistency. he makes a ton of dumb mistakes
jaunty cave
Lewis has thay British resilience
past owl
clipping walls at Monaco, taking risky lines and ending up in the litter, etc
jaunty cave
That*
oak lily
that British resilience is one of the reasons im happy i was born here๐
jaunty cave
Ron dennis done well
past owl
being an american, i'm a lil sad there aren't any US drivers in F1, but I couldn't even offer a suggestion as to who COULD do it.
jaunty cave
Honed him well. I give Ron credit. Must be proud.
past owl
Tony Stewart in his prime, maybe...since he was open wheels most of his career...
and possibly Kyle Busch...but otherwise, our drivers are shameful
jaunty cave
@past owl yeah I'm surprised at that as well.
oak lily
i guess there arent many f1 drivers from the US because its one of them sports you need to be into from a young age and all the bigger competitors are racing in europe
past owl
grew up on Nascar (its the pinnacle of US motorsport) but I was flabbergasted when I discovered F1 was 'international' and had all the 'best' drivers...and there has never been a US driver of note
jaunty cave
It's definitely a European sport
I like the direction its going down though
Much more global
past owl
yea, we all grow up playing ball sports and karting isn't really a thing
but it should be!
jaunty cave
It's a prestige sport
oak lily
yeah, with more races in NA now too means F1 will get bigger there, meaning more American racers
oak lily
i also think that less kids will go karting than do boxing for example... just because of the finance
oak lily
im only 19 so obviously dont have a child, but i do want to make enough money to be able to get them into racing
jaunty cave
That Racing Point car is going to cause problems come Saturday and Sunday ๐ ๐ ๐
Pink Mercedes
past owl
haven't seen any 2020 liveries. is it still pastel pink? ๐คข
jaunty cave
Yeah, I think they're keeping it that way for the season
past owl
ngl, that silver/teal Mercedes is easily my fav
jaunty cave
Mad max and Perez will be at it lol
oak lily
Mad Max lmfao๐ ๐ ๐
past owl
better driver, Perez or Sainz?
jaunty cave
I'm not sure lol
Perez was at mc claren at one point wasn't he lol
I'd go for Perez
past owl
I like Sainz. he's always got a good attitude and hates losing so much
jaunty cave
I think there is something missing with sainz. I feel as though he wants to be alonso
A softer version of alonso
past owl
everyone would do well to strive to be Alonso
jaunty cave
Lewis made alonso baby food lol ๐ ๐ ๐
I'm excited for this season, hopefully bottas can mount something different then last year
past owl
not taking away from Lewis, but I think Toto is the catalyst. I'm a fanboy. That guy is incredible
oak lily
just watch Bottas smoke Lewis this year๐ ๐
past owl
I think under a different principal, Lewis wouldn't be Lewis
jaunty cave
I'd love to see that. Highly doubt it though, not many drivers can dig deep as Lewis.
oak lily
i feel like he would still be a top racer but not the consequtive world champion
im so bad at spelling omg
jaunty cave
You think Totos had that much of an affect on lewis?
past owl
@jaunty cave have you watched the Netflix doc?
jaunty cave
@past owl I watched 1-2 episodes
oak lily
i think without toto, Lewis is still a champion, but hes not as great as he is now if you took Toto out of the picture
jaunty cave
I need to complete it though.
oak lily
im starting it tonight
past owl
that's my only real exposure to Toto... and you can feel the genius and professionalism oozing out of him. I think any driver with a true desire to succeed would perform above potential for him
jaunty cave
I do think Toto is a great principle, however I do think he had 75% of the finished article when Lewis arrived
oak lily
and thats the difference between good and great
jaunty cave
@past owl that I agree with.
past owl
yea, it's well established that Lewis is one of the greats, regardless of team or principle... but I think Toto put the 6 consecutive trophies in his home
oak lily
^^^
past owl
and I don't really buy into Bottas because of that sentiment.
I don't think he has the internal drive to be great. there's no more potential for Toto to tap into
he needs another young wizard to mold
oak lily
Bottas is just the place filler for the 'next Hamilton'
past owl
yea, exactly
jaunty cave
I don't think Toto had much of a choice then Rosberg left
past owl
the "next Hamilton" is a Verstappen or Leclerc or Russell. someone who is still a little raw and needs that kind of genius pushing them
oak lily
the beasts that need to be tamed basically
jaunty cave
Toto trusted Lewis to give him the freedom
oak lily
but i think with Rus, it will be a lot longer to make him flourish
jaunty cave
So far it's paid off.
oak lily
with Verstappen or Leclerc, he would be getting a teenage Lion ready to hunt
jaunty cave
Do I think that works for every driver, probably not.
oak lily
with Rus, hes getting a old cub
past owl
it's paid off because his supplementary top 6 finishes are enough points to keep everyone else at bay... but they need another winner when Hamilton DNF's
oak lily
'old cub' in the sense he has some experience but not as much as the likes of Ver and Lec
past owl
well, I hate to use a fighting dogs analogy... but if a dog loses, their mental dies too. leave Russell at the back of the grid too long and he'll never bounce back
jaunty cave
I agree lol I think that could happen with max
oak lily
i agree, thats a great analogy tbf
jaunty cave
He has been in the sport for quite a while, yet he is scrapping below par
It's the fine details that should defy wins at the top.
past owl
who's below par? Max?
oak lily
I dont think he will lose his mentality as he does get podiums, the difference is that Rus is going to be starting from the back a lot, with very little to no hope of getting a podium
oak lily
this may be silly but i swear RBR are a top 3 team
jaunty cave
I havent seen anything convincing me otherwise so far
Merc have synergy
Red Bull in my opinion hasn't.
past owl
RBR is definitely not the team they were...but I believe Max has done much better than RBR deserves up to now. I said it earlier, but he wins with a car that honestly shouldn't hit podiums. he drives that lemon beyond its limits
oak lily
ohh yh i see where you're coming from
jaunty cave
@past owl I agree. How long will he keep doing it for
oak lily
Verstapen to replace Vettel at Ferari๐
jaunty cave
Thats the question lol he wants titles
past owl
that was apparent when they gave Gasly a run and he embarrassed them by finishing where they SHOULD finish. mid pack
jaunty cave
@past owl ๐
past owl
he does, and he should.
past owl
what team can offer that? McLaren are getting stronger every year...
Albon drove much better than Gasly imo
honestly, Ferrari hasn't looked that great either.
jaunty cave
Max might turn into the driver that was always fighting
He bet his chips on Honda
So if Honda mess up lol
That's it lool
past owl
you have a former and future champ in your machines and you struggle to podium every week. that's a team issue.
oak lily
^^^
past owl
Ferrari only maintains any success bc of tier 1 budget. when they equalize next season...does Ferrari stay top 3?
oak lily
if they find a good replacement for Vettel yes imo
jaunty cave
@past owl that's a wait and see answer
oak lily
but yeah its definately a wait and see answer
past owl
Mercedes will stay on top, bc like I've said, Toto is arguably the best.
jaunty cave
I think with the new regs coming in soon things may change up
past owl
well they have a replacement. isn't Sainz in the seat?
jaunty cave
I don't think it's all down to Toto
oak lily
i didnt hear about that, with Sainz in the seat they dont finish top 3 imo
jaunty cave
I think Lewis has made his job simple
past owl
well yea, he only has to manage 1 driver
oak lily
i see McLaren beating them next season is the budgets are leveled out
jaunty cave
Whether that Merc is good or not
Lewis will deliver that car I m the top 3 regardless
In*
past owl
what happened at Renault last year?
jaunty cave
He done it in every machine he had before
jaunty cave
Lewis can extract everything out of a machine
past owl
they were 4th in 2018 and Ricciardo (frontrunner) went over... then they laid an egg.
was it Danny or the team?
oak lily
i think it was both? cant really remember
past owl
Danny picks Renault over McLaren citing McLaren's lack of results.... then they shame him all season by covering his visor in their rubber
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oak lily
sweet vengence
jaunty cave
@past owl Danny is going to mcclaren next summer
oak lily
thank you^
jaunty cave
It'll be interesting to see how he gets on.
Any team you switch too, will be a risk.
oak lily
do we know whos replacing his seat at Renault?
jaunty cave
Danny genuinely felt Renault would progress and they fell short of expectation
The same with alonso career when he made the choice to leave ferrari and go elsewhere.
oak lily
im just seeing danny get hate for his choice
i hate to see it, you gotta put yourself first
jaunty cave
I think what makes f1 so interesting is that it is constantly changing, teams have to pay attention to driverd performance of today whilst drivers need to pay attention to what teams plan for the future.
oak lily
yeah exactly, what drew me to the sport was its complicity and constant race of tech
jaunty cave
I think Danny is fast
past owl
but never great
jaunty cave
But I also think Verstappen had his number
past owl
he's got weak mental
jaunty cave
And he may of knew it lol
past owl
he ran from RBR because he couldn't box with Max
jaunty cave
So he decided to try something else
past owl
got embarrassed
jaunty cave
The pressure got to him
past owl
yuuuup
oak lily
ite boys, i gotta cut off to look at houses as im moving in a few months
enjoy your night!
past owl
I'm moving this month. been doing the whole buying/selling dance for awhile
such a hassle
see ya
jaunty cave
And thought he could go to lower team and make the team be around him
past owl
the thing I've noticed (learned) about these cars...is that each one is so different. from brake pedal pressure to turn stability to the difference in each wheel's buttons and interface....
jaunty cave
I don't think Danny has it either. He should of stayed at RB and learn humility
past owl
some drivers' styles fit one car but not another
past owl
yea he's gonna be a career drifter and fade out sooner than later. weak mental.
jaunty cave
Imo... You as a driver, its your job to drive.
past owl
you haven't picked a role yet?
jaunty cave
What do you mean?
I'm making the point that for any F1 driver, there primary role is to drive whatever car there given and to be able to get the best out of it.
No point jumping from team to team, like Danny does.
past owl
in this discord... you go to the role channel and pick your series
winged vessel
we r team principals who control garage and thier drivers, lmao
we sit in our garage and control our race
past owl
yea I agree. Danny should have stayed at RBR and matured like a good boy
winged vessel
Vettel should never have left RBR
jaunty cave
@past owl instead Max had him in his back pocket and Danny couldn't live with that
past owl
sad that a younger driver (Max) showed up and exposed Danny's immaturity
past owl
he even binned him a few times that season. so bad. RBR should've fined him
nah, Norris is a bit player
someone bought his F1 seat
jaunty cave
@winged vessel what would he have achieved staying
@past owl yeah I figured something like that happened
winged vessel
now he lost Ferrari seat, Ferrari kicked him out, for Leclerc
jaunty cave
No wty is he disciplined enough to get to the top
He just wants to call himself a race driver lol
This goes back to my point why I don't see Lewis coming off his throne.
He is F1. To the purists of this sport they most likely know it.
past owl
Stroll literally had his seat bought, btw
if I'm not mistaken, his dad is the primary investor on his team. bought it the year prior to his getting a seat. seems....fishy.
jaunty cave
@winged vessel his time was up! Didn't bring home the goods
@past owl yeah he did. Dad's a billionaire
That team will be his family business
past owl
he's gonna Claire them into the ground too
jaunty cave
Merc doesn't mind, because thats there customer
jaunty cave
@past owl most likely lol
Not before Aston make there cut lol
Mercedes looking to monopolise F1 lol
past owl
got 2 crate slots open. I'll be back
past owl
best race you've ever seen? best race in last 3 years?
balmy roost
Hi guys
past owl
great race ๐
sullen sluice
@balmy roost are you a my friend un F1 manager?
winged vessel
My bet HAMILTON wins first 2 races in 2020.
balmy roost
@sullen sluice I don't know u
winged vessel
Hamilton + DAS = ๐
sullen sluice
@balmy roost quieres ser mi amigo
balmy roost
Yes
jaunty cave
Hi everyone
inner pecan
see redbulls complaint got rejected so id exspect to see redbull using das next weekend as there was rumours they had there own system
jaunty cave
Yeah. I dont get why they allow it now knowing it will be illegal next year
jaunty cave
@sullen sluice no, what is it?
sullen sluice
Are you play a F1 manager @jaunty cave
jaunty cave
@inner pecan I'm not entirely sure they do lol i haven't seen them use it yet
, 0*,@sullen sluice yes I play F1 manager.
sullen sluice
Are you Facebook's acount @jaunty cave
jaunty cave
@sullen sluice no
sullen sluice
Which is more preferable to improve drivers or improve parts of the car
chrome matrix
Times seem close enough to each other
inner pecan
yea ferrari showing some cards there in that practice they defo have some pace in the car
see whos got the higher race pace quali is going to be tight
jaunty cave
Didn't get to watch p3, I'll watch quali though.
Listening to Christian he doesn't seem upbeat like he usually is.
short grotto
Yeah. I dont get why they allow it now knowing it will be illegal next year
@jaunty cave It often happens with irregularities; Brawn GP, Redbull's double diffuser.... f-duct๐
jaunty cave
I know but why? That doesnt make any sense
short grotto
I guess maybe because it would mean cars having to make significant changes to reverse their designs... Don't know really
Would have to see how much they benefit from it
But if they gain much of an advantage, Redbull and Ferrari will probably fit their own version before to soon
jaunty cave
Looking at the times, RB could be fighting with Racing Point
2 tenths between them
I wonder how much ferrari are holding back.
Maybe 3 tenth
short grotto
He is F1. To the purists of this sport they most likely know it.
@jaunty cave He's definitely making the most of the best car on the grid. He's to F1 what Marquez is to Motogp, however F1 is difficult to win without the best car... Swapping teams would mean that he most likely wouldn't be able to fight for the title
jaunty cave
@short grotto I ๐
short grotto
Any idea if 2021 will have big changes to regulations? Or has that been postponed?
inner pecan
think its still going to go ahead currently
south remnant
It got postponed to 2022
gusty surge
My (and swedish commentary) 2020 prediction
proper cloak
lol rp has a chance to be 4
inner pecan
this could be the cloest qualifying for ages if the first sets anything to go by lol
cedar rock
wow Ferrari is just looking awful
chrome matrix
Oofff ferrari is bad yeah
Merc and red bull both look strobg
So does FI and Mclaren
Could be ferrari fighting for p4 or5 in wcc kol
cedar rock
lol
wise onyx
I guess the drivers were right, specifically Grosjean. You canโt tell who the best driver is because the car is what matters
Racing Point is looking like a contender using the old Mercedes chassis
chrome matrix
Well sometimes talent comes to show when the equipment matches
wise onyx
Talents matters between drivers on the same team
But looks like we have a new top 4 constructors
cedar rock
Bottas what are you doing
jaunty cave
He still got pole. So yeah
cedar rock
lucky
wise onyx
Itโs what happens when you donโt save everything for the last lap
delicate lintel
Oof redbull 0.5 sec behind. Who knows what will happen in the race but car wise, merc is still way ahead
sand edge
so much ahead
upbeat wedge
Good to see McClaren back on it
eager zealot
Lando in 4th something you donโt see everyday
jaunty cave
I hope Bottas can consistently produce this result over the course of the season
Doubt he'll bring it 4th with race pace tomorrow though.
I think Ferrari will be dark horses tomorrow
fathom sundial
Bottas is on pole in Austria!
past owl
morning!
jaunty cave
Bottas putting it in the bag! To be RB are near enough half a second off the pace
Good luck with their strategy tomorrow. I think they're going long on the mediums tomorrow
Or does anyone else know?
jaunty cave
Is it possible to end in a grid penalty?
@chrome matrix is that with the incident with kimi?
jaunty cave
Do you think RB's strategy will pay off tomorrow?
chrome matrix
Perhaps, we will have to wait and see
For now its a guessing game
Austria is a power heavy circuit and merc was blistering fast in one lap
But race pace we will see tomorrow
I'm most impressed with Norris Q performance
jaunty cave
Perez performance was disappointing in the RP.
chrome matrix
Wouldn't say disappointing
We knew they would be up to par with mclaren
He did the same time as albon, just behind Norris and albon
While keeping leclerc behind him
Expecting anything else was just wishful thinking
Stroll did decent as well imo
Might be that both Lewis lap times will be deleted
His first lap he has been summoned for track limits
The 2nd one for the yellow flag thingy, same thing max was penalized for
jaunty cave
Well that would change up the grid, make things even more exciting
If found guilty that is.
chrome matrix
Yeah tbh they can't not punish him
After punishing max last year
Both drivers admitted seeing the crash
Both said that they didn't see the yellow
jaunty cave
Lewis said he didn't see the yellow flag
chrome matrix
Max steering wheel lights had an error, lewis' didnt
jaunty cave
Due to the dust
jaunty cave
Each incident I'm sure will be judged on its own merit, we'll see either way.
What the stewards decide.
jaunty cave
No i doubt anyone will say anything.
jaunty cave
Yeah, it's fans reacting in their emotions.
Do you norris will finish 4th lol
I think he himself was shocked at coming 4th, the drivers behind him done an awful job.
I'm surprised at Ocon, I think he can really have a bright future
chrome matrix
Nah thats too simple to say
Norris is a very impressive talent
Similar to Russell and leclerc
He had a tough rookie season with a lot of nerves
This year is more relaxed for Norris, I expect more of these results from him
McLaren will be the new Ferrari after this yeah, the new team to beat who occasionally challenges RB and Merc for podiums
jaunty cave
Thats if they can fend off RP.
I think Mclaren are going to be using Merc engine next year
chrome matrix
You really are rooting for FI aren't you lol
FI will fight with McLaren and Ferrari for p3/4/5 wcc
But I expect FI will end up 5th after Ferrari gets their problems solved
I think Mclaren are going to be using Merc engine next year
@jaunty cave
Thats a fact, they are switching to merc
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix haha that will spice things up lol
Maybe Daniel may get his revenge on Max lol
chrome matrix
Perhaps
jaunty cave
I like RP because it's an under dog lol
It's nice to see other cars fighting at the top
Even though behind those cars, it's manufacturers, Merc will have two cars driving their engines
chrome matrix
Tbh I prefer McLaren then
Since they did it more with their own development
And design principles
In stead of backward engineering last years merc
And then paint it pink
Its clever, sure
jaunty cave
@chrome matrix yeah I agree. I think they'll RP will struggle when it comes to wanting to beat the Merc.
For now though, it's about keeping the rest behind lol ๐
With a copy cat car of the top team, I know Christian must not be happy, it shows how far backward they are.
chrome matrix
Well compare it to 3 years ago
jaunty cave
If a copy cat can beat you lol you know somethings wrong
chrome matrix
Then there was 1s difference between p1 and p3
Now 1s gets you from p1 to p10
Rb definitely caught up well
jaunty cave
We'll have to see if its enough to win them a championship
proper cloak
dude
chrome matrix
Merc still holds the advantage lol
jaunty cave
Merc truly are on a different level. Making Bottas look like a demi god lol
proper cloak
well tbh i am still against this DAS thing
FIA should have ban completely or let the other teams to use it
But this season will be really hot
chrome matrix
Other teams are allowed to use jt
barren sonnet
what do u mean by hot xd
chrome matrix
They just need to develop the system
jaunty cave
Well they haven't stopped the other teams from making their iwn
barren sonnet
3'rd place is .5 s behind the mercs
proper cloak
hold on the last time that i read the article on FIA website, they only allow to merc
proper cloak
oh my bad so
jaunty cave
Red Bull and other teams would rather not have to create DAS. More money spent on something they didn't come up with, that must hurt.
barren sonnet
100% redbull have 1 implemented
just test if its legal so they can introduce their own
chrome matrix
Suspension systems of other teams are different, so might not be beneficial to them to develop DAS
Red bull most likely already has a DAS developt
Just not integrated and fitted yet
proper cloak
you know i really want to see hamilton in a different team and car except merc, i want to see how good he is in real
chrome matrix
I wouldn't be surprised if RB has DAS at silverstone for example
proper cloak
I wouldn't be surprised if RB has DAS at silverstone for example
@chrome matrix prob they will
chrome matrix
you know i really want to see hamilton in a different team and car except merc, i want to see how good he is in real
@proper cloak
Hamilton is the best on the track right now, he already won championships in lesser cars
In that sense he has nothing to prove lol
jaunty cave
Well you're assuming whatever they have created and called DAS Is just as effective as the Merc DAS lol they haven't tested it to say it is worth using.
Merc has tested there system all through winter lol
That could be the difference for the huge margin we saw today
Hola
:v
proper cloak
Anyways, i still dont like ham and merc
chrome matrix
Well honestly
We don't know how effective the Merc DAS is
We don't have the data
jaunty cave
He already has. He came up and took on every competitor he had to face.
chrome matrix
So its impossible to say if it has meaningful impact
It's the same as Ferrari engine last year
Until its turned off (for fer it was the fuel pump) its impossible for us to say the impact
Fuel pump had massive impact, since after the reprimand, ferrari were nowhere
jaunty cave
๐
That's what makes this sport so good.
I like Halminton
๐
Every detail is what makes the difference.
I'm sure Merc wouldn't use the DAS, if it didn't make a difference though. Todays results, I'm sure RB will be hoping that's not going to become a frequent thing.
If so, with those margins between 1-3rd, Verstappen don't have a have a chance lol
chrome matrix
Well austria has always been a power heavy circuit
Assuming merc still has a better engine than Honda, the results make sense
Next week will probably have rain in ๐ฆ๐น
jaunty cave
I agree, anything can happen moving forward.
jaunty cave
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jaunty cave
I don't understand Russian, but I'd like to how to translate this text so I can understand
@jaunty cave can I translate this text in to English
cedar rock
you can just go to #728576105136652349 and read it there
jaunty cave
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seen things flying around on twitter that hamilton maybe getting a penulty may have lando on the frount row yet
jaunty cave
lol that be nice
inner pecan
no be p3 lol forgot he was 4th lol
cedar rock
i was just about to point that out lol
and no
F1.com says he is keeping his p2 spot
Hamilton keeps P2 on grid after yellow flag investigation
inner pecan
pfft could of given him a penelty and made the race slightly interesting hopefully they dont have the race pace to match there qualifying pace and verstapen can take advantage of a longer stint etc
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woven plank
jaunty cave
Ok guys no penalty for Lewis
jaunty cave
Ha Ash bb
jaunty cave
@jaunty cave game on for tomorrow!
What's your prediction
Who will finish in the top 3
And who will end up 4th for good measure
Max Ham Bot who is first I dont know. i think Stroll and Per will be rly good for 4th and i hope Alboff shows his Talent.
Interesting... That strategy that RB are doing, at best I think they'll get 2nd, if it doesn't pull off ver could end up behind RP.
@jaunty cave hopefully not, hopefully max mad can keep his cool. ๐
It should be fun. I'm looking forward to it.
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jaunty cave
@winged vessel loving the transparency
jaunty cave
What's people's thoughts on Grosjean sentiments on drivers wages
jaunty cave
Lol
jaunty cave
I'd like to see Grosjean worrying less on what other drivers earn and be more concerned on his performance out on track.
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chrome matrix
keep the memes in the meme channel
teal mason
rustic mural
Aaaa
inner pecan
and won p5 hamilton going by pics of the grid being put together
rustic mural
Red bull r not going to get mad illegal
cedar rock
they have Max lined up on the grid in p2
jaunty cave
Jes noicr
zinc thunder
What sites do you use to stream gp?
inner pecan
watch it on skyf1
winged vessel
HAM given grid penalty? or what
jaunty cave
Jeo
cedar rock
3 spots
jaunty cave
Ignoring yellow flag
winged vessel
Bottas pulled move on everyone after qualifying 1st, Like Rosberg did in Monaco, grrrrrr
Max is looking at HAM lol
proper cloak
RB Verstappen as always
oak lily
^^
proper cloak
and vettel in my heart
oak lily
I have an itch than man like Bot might take this if he stays infront going into the first corner
That**
winged vessel
BOT vs MAX today, lets find out
oak lily
Mad Max is gonna smoke him tho ngl
winged vessel
MAX is Hot in Austria
oak lily
(This is my first race watching after learning about f1 so Iโm excited)
I used to watch it and think it was as simple as overtakes๐๐
But learnt more over lockdown finally
cedar rock
basics of F1, just like the game, start out front finish out front lol
oak lily
lmao basically
inner pecan
very hot track like last year again see whos got the better tire temps again lol
winged vessel
MAX can use Hutch pit stop boost 0.69 second, Hamilton gotta use DF Bottas on Rooster
๐คฃ
oak lily
pit stop booxt with max has got me so many points this gp๐
inner pecan
that thing was so broken in gp finals i was lapping people who wasnt boosted lol
oak lily
i did so bad this gp
winged vessel
Poor KIMI will be common driver next year
winged vessel
about 5 minutes, my friend, sit sight
oak lily
finishing my first mcdonalds in months, then rolling a smoke for the race
i
am
ready
winged vessel
Rastaah!
oak lily
for those who dont have access to the race...
is it illegal for me to screenshare in discord?
๐ ๐ ๐
winged vessel
HAM behind Albon and Lando, oopsi what a first turn it will be
inner pecan
Ready to hear the lights out and away we go seams forever minus the e sports stuff
inner pecan
Bets on lando streaming if he get podium somehow?
winged vessel
Bottas gave MAX a ticket to Hollywood
inner pecan
Same track temp as last year so could be interesting for breaks being kept cool
robust stag
Huh
robust stag
Yeah
spark linden
Canโt believe how late that pen for ham was Joke
robust stag
What he didnโt slow when yellow flag on
winged vessel
Lando and Albon hahha
cedar rock
lights out
oak lily
LIGHTS OUT
robust stag
Norris is goood
winged vessel
Bottas on Vodka
robust stag
Yeah. He is very good start
oak lily
Bottas is listeninig to Euro beats
winged vessel
just cause MAX on medium compound gonna hold the pack behind
robust stag
Yeah max will pit one time only ๐คช
cedar rock
Norris already back to 5th
robust stag
Fastest lap on medium
oak lily
do we have the new tyre compounds this season or no?
cedar rock
no and we wont
cedar rock
lol every lap a new fastest lap by someone different
oak lily
Albon is definately sweating bullets right now
winged vessel
DRS
cedar rock
i didnt hear them say how long each tire should last
robust stag
๐คฌ
cedar rock
bye bye Albon
oak lily
3-4 laps?๐ ๐
winged vessel
big task to slow HAM down and kepp him behind as well, so MAX can have gap
robust stag
Yeah
winged vessel
lets see how many laps to MAX vs HAM
oak lily
how long we thinking Bot will hold the lead?
cedar rock
Ver is out
robust stag
๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฉ
winged vessel
upto Toto WOlf
oak lily
omg
oak lily
ouch
cedar rock
RB gets their Karma
sand edge
๐๐๐๐
oak lily
looks like a 1-2 finish for merc
winged vessel
Team LH, yeah!
cedar rock
Karma boys karma
cedar rock
lol
oak lily
ive had 4 warnings
winged vessel
Horner can eat this , in dinner
sand edge
i am from 2008 LH fan off heโs driving skills
cedar rock
Max in pits
robust stag
Yeah ๐คฌ๐คฌ๐คฌ
winged vessel
Horner can complain it to FIA hahaha
oak lily
oops
cedar rock
ya you can't say that
oak lily
yeah now i remember lmao
cedar rock
its over for Ver
winged vessel
is Max going for championship, hahaha
oak lily
rip Max
spark linden
Lol
winged vessel
enjoy the beautiful mountains MAXy boy
oak lily
hes just annoyed it didnt happen in Monaco
drivers who crash in Monaco just go to their super boats and watch the race
robust stag
sand edge
Ham need to catch Botas ๐๐
oak lily
Toto will tell Bot to slow down
winged vessel
Toto can give a bad pit stop to Bottas
oak lily
'let Lewis overtake'
sand edge
no Botas take this race and all the rest Ham takes like every year
oak lily
just wath him crash๐
robust stag
Ric ๐คช
upbeat wedge
Ric gone as well
winged vessel
Hutch sent a bug in MAX car
oak lily
oh no whats up with danny now
cedar rock
Ric is about to retire
sand edge
Kimi block them all ๐๐
winged vessel
RIcci out
cedar rock
lol
oak lily
this race...
cedar rock
Ferrari might be able to sneak onto the podium
robust stag
Vettel on hard Tyres
sand edge
redbull take power unit and reduce reability
uncut scarab
Feel sorry to those driver who retire or have issue. Waited 3 months plus for racing and retire not even half the race
oak lily
lolll Stroll
sand edge
team was busy to argue with FIA then prep the race ๐
robust stag
Occon want to overtake mag๐คช
cedar rock
lol
upbeat wedge
Gro consistency issue
jaunty cave
Sad to see max already out ๐ฆ
mortal rose
Finally albon getting podium he deserves
upbeat wedge
Stroll gone as well
cedar rock
Stroll retires
robust stag
Hamilton our
upbeat wedge
Williams could get points here ๐คฃ
oak lily
jesus
jaunty cave
Feels bad ! 1st Grand Prix and 3 difference engine problems ..
sand edge
carโs got corona ๐
jaunty cave
Grosjeans is only god in f1 manager kkkk
cedar rock
Gros is way overrated in the game
winged vessel
yea
oak lily
Kimi about to start overtaking and defending every move
robust stag
Bottas going green and Hamilton red lol
oak lily
the hutch gods have spoken
cedar rock
lol
mortal rose
Someone tell hamilton to use green arrow and mind his fuel
oak lily
lmao
cedar rock
Mag spins
robust stag
Mag out
oak lily
Mag out?
jaunty cave
Ahahah they are only good on f1 manager boys xd
mortal rose
Why sc is out
robust stag
jaunty cave
Hutch keep your eyes open please
upbeat wedge
Unsafe release
sand edge
perfect pit stop
cedar rock
Perez unsafe release
mortal rose
So its ham7 vs bot7, sad bot isnt as strong as last season
upbeat wedge
Perez
oak lily
i thought it was unsafe from RP
robust stag
Okey some action now
mortal rose
It was racing point mistake not mclaren
sand edge
no this GP botas 7 and Ham 3 ๐
winged vessel
so Bottas loses His lead, HAM right behind him, Horner protest goes in gutter
hahah
oak lily
holy poop are Williams going to get points?
upbeat wedge
Perez only car on med
oak lily
Want to finish on softs maybe
jaunty cave
Hope it's not a engine problem
oak lily
no he did sound very annoyed
cedar rock
lol
chrome matrix
After one engine problem? Lol don't go dramatic
robust stag
Perez have chance now
jaunty cave
Your performing at the highest level
safe bramble
but where would he go?
jaunty cave
Points already given away in the first race could prove costly
upbeat wedge
He's got nowhere to go
safe bramble
what other team would he have a chance to go to
cedar rock
doesnt Bottas only have a yearly contract?
upbeat wedge
Ham ver never going to work
winged vessel
PER vs LEC interesting battle, lets see Ferrari power
jaunty cave
Why should it
oak lily
8-5 is looking interesting
winged vessel
Bottas front Right tire has a blister on the inside
cedar rock
back to green
jaunty cave
Albon looks like a school kid
upbeat wedge
Vet crashed ๐
sand edge
this yes its BLACK ARROW ๐
mortal rose
Nice sainz
barren sonnet
Sbinalla
cedar rock
Vettel spins
oak lily
Jesus... Rus really boutta score some points
cedar rock
that was all his own fault
sand edge
he donโt care about ferary now ๐
spark linden
Same old vettle
mortal rose
Finally bottas on red arrow
robust stag
Vettel not good enough for Ferrari
cedar rock
Ham wants that lead
oak lily
just watch him spin Bot out
safe bramble
Ham to ignore team orders
cedar rock
what is a black and white flag?
safe bramble
unsportsmanlike
uncut scarab
what is a black and white flag?
@cedar rock warning
cedar rock
warning ok that is what i thought
robust stag
He take advantage when he race out side track
oak lily
Hamilton leaving that red arrow on for laps
uncut scarab
Just like Leclerc on hamilton at monza last year
Team orders r with Ham not Bot
@winged vessel even with power down hamilton will get the job done
barren sonnet
Why does the rarry can't get over 300 kmh
safe bramble
they forgot their cheat codes for this season
jaunty cave
I think leclerc should have a better card
robust stag
Nxt season leclerc should be lvl 7 rare or 6 epic
cyan minnow
Watching the race. Hamilton needs to work with his teammate. Not begging for 1st heโs such a....
cedar rock
Ham work with his teammate? lol ya he never does that
cyan minnow
Shame. Bottas is a good lad always been a perfect 2nd driver
robust stag
My best driver is Max but really Hamilton is a legend
winged vessel
Champion blood
safe bramble
if he has a chance for a win, go for it
woeful summit
Mercedes needs to do a Brazil Ferrari.
winged vessel
hey! are hard going till end or what?
robust stag
Think yeah
uncut scarab
1 stop race
safe bramble
yes
cyan minnow
Can see him going into the back off bottas would be nice karma. Any team is begging for top 5 for the money most teams need it
uncut scarab
Hard till the end
winged vessel
Ham will overtake then lets see
woeful summit
Leclerc in a McLaren sandwich
uncut scarab
Ham will overtake easily
uncut scarab
Hahaha sensor issue
robust stag
Albon green arrow
uncut scarab
Definitely mercedes giving the message to let ham pass
robust stag
He should start red now