Panasonic 3DO

[orchid lance]

I have my eyes on that game since the fan translation was released... Sounds like a very interesting Alone in the Dark look-alike

I will play it on the MiSTer for sure when the core arrives

That, and Killing Time, Road Rash, and other great 3DO games

[tranquil mortar]

I don't know any 3do games, but I'm looking forward to the core and trying them out.

[chilly gale]

I've just put my Goldstar 3DO up for sale along with the games. Way of the Warrior is one of those bad Mortal Kombat clones which I have and is quite desirable to collectors for some reason.

[verbal fjord]

It's an early Naughty Dog game, I guess that makes it collectable?

[marble jetty]

I don’t know how much influence the MiSTer has on retro game prices but once there’s more articles out there about a 3DO core, prices should rise simply due to increasing visibility on that console.

[tranquil mortar]

My jaguar is only going up in value.

[karmic basin]

Yeah, I did not have Jaguar slated to become one of my most valuable consoles.

But if someone really wants to pay that much for a copy of Rayman, who am I to argue?

[dense remnant]

I only recently learned that when Hasbro owned the rights to the Jaguar, they released those rights to the public domain... like, back in the '99!

Never knew that.

[karmic basin]

That when Songbird Productions ramped up.

[dense remnant]

That just seems crazy to me... roughly 5-6 years after it was released.

[sharp pendant]

It was really cool Hasbro did that, I guess they figured they would benefit more from the positive press than they would from owning the licence/patents etc.

Is a shame more companies haven't done this, but maybe they haven't been asked

[karmic basin]

At the time they were shipping a lot of retro revival titles for platforms of the time under the Atari name.

[sharp pendant]

Like I can't imagine V-tech care about the Socrates, or Casio the Loopy

[warm kiln]

I've started working on my Sorted Set for the Panasonic 3DO. Should be a much faster process than for CD-i, given its library mostly consists of games.

[sharp pendant]

Nice one, that will be very useful, can be used as the basis for the testing sheet. Redumps are gold standard for dumps, but an unsorted pack of 500+ disc images is not good on the SD card or for testing

[distant grove]

There's a still camera, like alone in the dark, a first person camera, and an overhead. Off of which you have to use for different clues and puzzles. It's more like D instead of alone in the dark

[distant grove]

It's poor reputation from YouTube and it's difficult learning curve made it one of those games everyone says "man I have to try this!". Primal rage is arguably WORSE than way of the warrior by a mile, but popularity surrounding PR is comparable to killer instinct

[verbal fjord]

Oh interesting! All I really know is that it got savaged by magazine reviews for the most part when it came out

good to know it's not quite as bad as everyone said

[distant grove]

It got mediocre reviews across the board. Some mags tore it to shreds, others were impressed by its graphics and gave it genuine criticism

Mediocre games back then are eaten alive by the standards people have today. I mean, theres an entire group of people on the internet who shit on SM64 way more than they should.

I think SM64 has genuinely annoying aspects and mechanics, but I don't think it's horrible. So even the best games out there get their fair share of shit people throw

[verbal fjord]

That's true

[distant grove]

For WOTW, you should turn the difficulty down slightly and keep your distance from the CPU. I couldn't get beyond the first opponent until I figured those two things out

If you watch some of the ces footage of people playing a demo, the crowd is quite pleased with WOTW

People see mortal Kombat "clones" and expect them to be mortal Kombat

Same issue with "doom clones". Every fps back then, was supposed to be doom, without being doom. Absurd expectation

[ashen palm]

yeah - Duke 3D and Dark Forces are the best from that era since they were trying to be FPS games, not doom clones

the only decent non-MK digitized actor fighting game from then is like, SFII The Movie: The Game (and maybe The Kung-Fu Master Jackie Chan)

[verbal fjord]

Dark Forces was so good... it was the first game I played through the SoundBlaster AWE32 that I got for christmas

[ashen palm]

DF runs surprisingly good on the ao486 core too

[verbal fjord]

Oh, good to know! I am hoping to get a MT3pi which would make it that much better

[distant grove]

I'm saying people expected every fps to be doom or Wolfenstein, or as good as. A lot of fps games of their time were their own thing.

[visual sonnet]

I love Way of the Warrior. It's not perfect, but it's not what the magazines back in the day said it was either

[ashen palm]

ah yeah - it was all over the place and usually bogged down by poor frame-rate and over complex mechanics. id games work because they are fast and simple

[twin estuary]

Jurassic Park Interactive seems like a neat 3DO exclusive. Looking forward to this core.

[karmic basin]

Hang on to that energy.

[fossil sorrel]

Jurassic Park Interactive was a game I owned. I still sometimes whisper a rhetorical "why?" under my breath.

[distant grove]

JPI is very similar to activity center point and click games from the PC. It has its own way of being fun. Was the first 3do game I got ahold of. I thought it was fun in its own right

[fossil sorrel]

I'm definitely looking forwards to seeing it again

But still...

https://tenor.com/view/why-for-what-monkey-confused-gif-2227785687963350743

[karmic basin]

The raptor made for great screenshots.

[fossil sorrel]

CPU Bach is the exclusive I'm really waiting for. It's gonna write my first album for me.

Please look forward to it. 🙏

[steel pelican]

@tribal sandal or @trail raven Can you elaborate what you mean by gen adapter? I’m considering getting the Reflex Adapt (not just for 3DO, but also for others Saturn, etc) what adapters can I buy that would allow me to use an original 3DO controller?

[trail raven]

For the misteraddons reflex device...you need to buy HDMI to insert console name here adapters

The mega driver/ genisis seems to be the same serial pin out as the 3do... Note The signals sent through the pins are not the same in each system, but the controller connector looks the same ....but the fits MAY be different

The reflex adapter has 3DO As an option you can set the adapter up as....but misteraddons doesn't have a distinct 3do cable

I think @spark locust would be the best to answer this

Mr pork ... For 3do on the reflex adapter...can we just use the genisis -> reflex cable?

[steel pelican]

Ah thanks for explaining, funny I just asked on MisterAddons chat support too. Will give them time to answer and can report back if he doesn’t answer here.

[trail raven]

Yeah..solid dude...great great great products...worth every penny and super helpfus

[dense remnant]

At the very least the pinouts between the two controllers are the same. EDIT: Nope

I do remember using a Sega Genesis extension cable with 3DO controllers though.

[steel pelican]

MisterAddons confirmed as well. Genesis adapter will work w/ 3DO gamepad.

[dense remnant]

Porkbot has spoken!

[sharp pendant]

Does the 3DO definitely fit in a Mega drive/Genesis SNAC adaptor?

I thought they were slightly different shape

Be great to have someone check if they can

[final grail]

its a standard Atari Style plug db9

[spark locust]

The Genesis adapter works for 3DO controllers on the Reflex Adapt

[sharp pendant]

If it is standard DB9 then that makes things a lot easier

[spark locust]

There's a pin mismatch but it hasn't been an issue

It won't work for SNAC

That will require a dedicated adapter

[sharp pendant]

Does Reflex support multiple controllers daisy chained?

Or guess maybe won't know until there is a core

[iron tundra]

An extension cable is just straight wires. The pinouts of Genesis and 3DO controllers are not the same and you can damage your console if you try to use a 3DO controller with a Genesis or a Genesis controller with a 3DO. The Genesis DE-9 pins map to d-pad and button signals directly while the 3DO pins are used for a packet-based serial protocol like USB.

[distant grove]

Pinout ≠ Port type

"Pinout" implies they output the same signals and interface the same

[distant grove]

Jinx

[dense remnant]

Very true. That's what I meant to say, but said it very poorly. Thank you.

[distant grove]

They are. 3do is a serial 9 pin din (round edges), genesis has sharp points and edges. They will either be super tight or super loose, depending on how they make the port of whatever this device is

[distant grove]

Do you mind editing this message in case someone comes back and reads through lazily and doesnt finish the conversation

[paper totem]

3DO carries audio on some of the pins, no other console really does that.

[distant grove]

It happens

[trail raven]

Edited .. basically expanded that the connector looks the same but the signals are different

[ashen lark]

That and Monster Manor are my favorite 3do games!

[gaunt imp]

Hope it’s okay to post this, it’s not a link.

[marble jetty]

Yeah, I appreciate not posting the link.

It’s one of those challenging gray zones where yeah it’s homebrew and homemade but it’s not their IP and they’re effectively distributing a game. It’s weird.

I think it’s cool as hell and there’s absolutely no harm being done but ya knoooow.

[dire sinew]

The eye of boon shifts it’s gaze

[marble jetty]

lol my friend works at Netherrealm and he’s an alright guy

[dire sinew]

yup, I have some folks there too. seems like as long as you catch him on a good day….

[marble jetty]

He won’t share my boon puns with him though

[dire sinew]

but I guess that’s anyone

[marble jetty]

yeah true

[dire sinew]

I still think he should have done lady scorpion for MK1

real missed opportunity there

[marble jetty]

The ole boon n goon strategy

[verbal fjord]

Scorpion with Benefits

[modern gate]

gives new meaning to "GET OVER HERE!"

[verbal fjord]

GET OVER HERE for some Netflix and Chill

[modern gate]

pfft no way

GET OVER HERE to GET R.E.A.L. 3DO

[verbal fjord]

I always throught Scorpion was being supportive to you after a breakup

GET OVER HER

[covert wagon]

damn it I wandered into my office to make a video lol

@real rapids you cursed me

[dire sinew]

I'm glad it was genuine

[verbal fjord]

Genuine answer: SRG is a beast.

[real rapids]

Mission accomplished. Now eat some chicken soup!

[marble jetty]

lol “if it was easy it would’ve been done by now”

[karmic basin]

Fake question: is a 3DO core made of pizza?

[modern gate]

the pizza isn't R.E.A.L. it can't hurt you

[silent oak]

It has pineapples and anchovies

[distant grove]

It's impossible because the 3do isn't real, no one knows how it works (little men in the chips with ropes and levers!), and it's not a real gaming system. Everyone knows this!

[distant grove]

You sure about that

[modern gate]

hahahahahahahaha excellent

this ain't your regular pizza dough. This is 3DO

[covert wagon]

your damn video is on #share-media @real rapids

[dense remnant]

Better Console. Better Pizza.
Papa Trip's

[marble sandal]

Those are some pretty crusty puns..

[modern gate]

these aren't your dad's puns, these are R.E.A.L. PUNS

guys save this, it will come in handy when the core comes out 😛

[real rapids]

I remember getting one of my codes published in a game magazine back in the day for Need for Speed on 3DO. It was the first person view code that doesn't include the dashboard. I think the magazine was Game Fan? It's been a long time...

My friend and I discovered the trick on accident back in the day!

[distant grove]

I always found that cheat code silly. But hey, I'm sure someone used it

[real rapids]

I do remember that the game ran a bit better with that mode enabled. I still never used it though. I like seeing my car!

[distant grove]

Yeah, only thing is the frame rate still can't outpace the cdrom streaming the faux backgrounds making the render distance look further out than it really is

[visual sonnet]

Such a shame this was never released. I never knew this was even in development. I wonder how far along it was

[modern gate]

Aw man it wasn't released? 😦

I don't care for blobbers but this game looked great!

[modern gate]

more from EGM Nov 1994

[karmic basin]

Another CD classic.

Far more difficult than the later Extreme edition on Saturn/PSX

[dense remnant]

I remember that well. I collected every issue of EGM for years from the late '80s to mid '90s along with so many other magazines... until I found good quality digital scans of most of them many years later and threw them all away. Sometimes I wish I had still kept them, but they were just taking up too much space. I eventually started viewing them as just something that would help my house burn down faster. 😄

[vapid swallow]

Quickly played some of the MK release. Def some jank going on here but man the graphics are so good, has huge potential. Couple of the animations are really far off from arcade, will be interesting to see if they can fix them on final release. Amazing job though from this team.

[dire sinew]

Am I wrong or are the sprites too big?

[vapid swallow]

everything does look very zoomed in, esp the roster tree at the start

[dense remnant]

Probably just used to seeing them too small on almost every other home console release. 😉

[vapid swallow]

I grew up playing MK2, they are pretty damn big but I tested it out on a 77" oled lol

[karmic basin]

No, it’s original sized assets running in an overall less viewable area.

They aren’t “zoomed”, but they are larger than they were on the overall higher resolution of the arcade board. It’s why you can’t see as much vertical in the stages.

The temple stage with the spiked ceiling is the most obvious example

[vapid swallow]

That makes sense actually

Prob why he shows the area of play on one of the screens, was curious why he did that (think it is under arena)

[tribal sandal]

I understand that, I have a storage box of old gaming magazines under my bed and having been slowly throwing some away over the years because I need to make space. I will probably throw most of them away eventually…

[marble jetty]

Good on you dude. Those are just taking up space,

[dense remnant]

It just goes with the territory of getting older. You start prioritizing different things. That storage space became more important for more actually valuable things.

Adulting is hard...

[tribal sandal]

I think sometimes we hold on to the wrong things because of memories but if your not using them it’s better to let them go

[dense remnant]

I'm almost 54. It's hard enough trying to find the time to sit down and enjoy most of the games I want to play for more than 1 or 2 hours at a time, unlike the 6-8 hours straight my game sessions used to be just 10-15 years ago.
Once I realized I'd never look through a single one of those physical issues again, combined with the fact that I hadn't looked through them in probably 20 years anyway, the decision to get rid of them was much easier.

...but having complete digital scans of many of them certainly helped that decision. 😏

That does not apply to my comic books though. 😄

[marble jetty]

Where’s my digital magazine core

[tribal sandal]

That would be great to have actually

[modern gate]

The last time I moved which was back in 2009, I tossed out all my magazines. There were so many and it was just so much trouble to move them all. Well, I didn't just TOSS them, I gave them to a friend of a friend. Hopefully someone is still getting use out of them

[modern gate]

I'm about to turn 40 and have a 6 year old. I wish I could get the same enjoyment out of games that I used to but it's just not gonna happen. I like sticking to the 8 and 16 bit era mostly because those games are so easy to jump into and play for 20-30 minutes at a time which is about all I have time for since I've had a kid.

and even when I do have a block of free time, there is always adult homeowner shit that needs to be done

[real rapids]

I refuse to throw out my old gaming magazines! I still have every issue of Nintendo Power!

[little scroll]

Like, every single issue? That's actually extremely impressive.

[real rapids]

Well...I'm missing two issues. Issue 4 started having its pages fall out back in the day due to the glue failing on the binding, so it got thrown out when I was a kid. And the Earthworm Jim issue just disappeared at some point. No idea what happened to it.

[little scroll]

You failed!

[tribal sandal]

Nice 👍 I’ll try to keep mine but if I move house again I might have to make some tough choices on what I can keep. I need to check if I still have my 3DO magazines.

[gaunt imp]

That’s pretty cool, Mario. You plan to buy those 4 issues to complete your set?

I ended up finding high resolution scans of Nintendo Power and EGM. I just flip through them on the iPad.

[marble sandal]

I dont remember much about nintendo power but when SMB3 was released I remember the SMB3 nintendo power issue being like my bible back then.

[real rapids]

2 issues! But nah, it's not that big of a deal to me. I just don't want to get rid of what I have.

[visual sonnet]

Team of 1

[visual sonnet]

Has to do with the screen resolution of the 3DO.

[vapid swallow]

The dev has done an amazing job, I am very happy with the game as it is my fav fighter of all time. The fact it runs as well as it does is incredible work.

[visual sonnet]

It's a big passion project for him

He's a good dude and he's giving it all he's got

[dire sinew]

3DAYO wen

[paper totem]

I just want to try the 2DO core

[signal herald]

Thursdaymensional optics?

[fossil sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-lydia-gif-19001328

[marble jetty]

3Day-O, 3Day-O
New core come and me wan' go play
Day, me say day, me say day, me say day
Me say day, me say 3Day-O
New core come and me wan' go play

[dense remnant]

So here's to you, Mrs. Robby's son.
MiSTer has some games that you must play.
Hey hey hey.

[cobalt zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[fast pebble]

Has robby finally broken?

[tiny marsh]

Too much propane exposure

[fast pebble]

shame

[surreal adder]

Also just might have been high on propane when he wrote that lol

[marble jetty]

Come, MiSTer FPGA man, update_all me system
(New core come and me wan' go play)
Come, MiSTer FPGA man, update_all me system
(New core come and me wan' go play)

[surreal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/i-rest-my-case-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-my-point-exactly-i-prove-my-point-gif-20021831

[marble jetty]

Run mem test all night on a drink a rum
(New core come and me wan' go play)
Build a new MiSTer stack 'til the mornin' sun
(New core come and me wan' go play)

[modern gate]

amazing

[surreal adder]

Robby doesnt know this, but he's slowly writing the complete "MisterFPGA National Anthem"

[modern gate]

I have an idea

what a scary time to be alive

I can't take credit for this, this is AI:

O MiSTer FPGA
Our retro gaming dream,
True hardware love in every core, supreme.
With glowing pixels, games arise,
Arcade and console free!
From far and wide, O MiSTer FPGA,
We stand in awe of thee.
Preserve our frames, glorious and clear!
O MiSTer, we stand in awe of thee.
O MiSTer, we stand in awe of thee.

[orchid lance]

The length of the verses makes it adequate to be singed along the USSR anthem!

[modern gate]

Haha neat! This one is to the tune of the Canadian anthem

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[static magnet]

Anyone else already have their CHD images ready for the core release? 😄

Afriend and I rented a 3DO, and the video store included that demo disc. ook me YEARS to find more 2SD episodes, but that one from the demo disc is still my fave. ditto the Batman Mr. freze episode. That one just hits so hard, dramatically. A show well above its contrmporaries.

[tribal sandal]

I was tempted to make some CHD images but I think I’ll wait for a release first

[tribal sandal]

P3DO sounds just wrong 😅

[dire sinew]

It’s SRG’s world. We are just living in it

[static magnet]

Legit truth

[tribal sandal]

True maybe he doesn’t see what we see

[marble jetty]

I don’t believe you can start a core name with a number

Also yeah, I already have my P3DO folder ready with all games CHD compressed

[dense remnant]

It's possible with arcade cores already.

[marble jetty]

Yeah? Hmmm there went my theory.

[dense remnant]

Hmm... maybe that's an exception for MRAs though.

1942, 1943, etc... those RBFs start with 'jt'... and 280-ZZZAP points to the Space Invaders RBF. 🤔

[marble jetty]

I don’t actually know, I’m just guessing but it seems like a big coincidence.

[dense remnant]

I can't find one RBF file that starts with a number, oddly enough.

[dire sinew]

ThreeDeeOh.rbf

[marble jetty]

lol I made that joke to Kitrinx too

[dense remnant]

Like Threepio.

YeOlde3DO.rbf

[timid mason]

😐

OD3DO for "oh, damn, 3do"

[marble jetty]

Ol’ Dirty 3DO

SRG ain’t nuthan ta f’ wit

[dense remnant]

"Why you front loadin'?"

[real rapids]

Will the early builds even support chd though?

3DOS = ThreeDeeOhhhhhSnap!

[static magnet]

If not, I'll just convert to BIN/CUE!

[real rapids]

Also 3x the power of any DOS computer at the time!

[fast pebble]

what's wrong with NOTVIRTUALBOY?

[static magnet]

I'd LOVE to see a VB core one day!

[marble jetty]

Thank you for joining our community, the cry room is located here #1056040100141735986

[dire sinew]

R•E•A•L.rbf

Goood luck with that Linux warriors

[tribal sandal]

The download link isn’t working for me…

[marble jetty]

@static magnet just incase, I wasn’t being snarky. I really do want a VB core and that’s where I complain about it lol.

[dire sinew]

Definitely need some %20s in there

[dire sinew]

P•A•T•I•E•N•C•E

But for r•e•a•l, it should be like real3do.rbf or something. P3do is no good

[sharp pendant]

real3do is probably better than P3DO

[marble jetty]

Yeah completely agree

[sharp pendant]

It is a good idea, maybe someone who talks directly to srg320 could suggest it to him

[dire sinew]

We need the srg-whisperer

@umbral charm the next time you have srg’s ear, and there is space to talk about the forthcoming 3DO core, you may want to suggest renaming it to something like “real3DO”. P3DO has the potential to raise eyebrows and invite shitty jokes

[marble jetty]

Ohhhh like what jokes

[dire sinew]

I have about 2 “lol p3do core” jokes in me before the tank is empty

[dire sinew]

I’ll tell you when you’re older

[umbral charm]

After a SS console...

[dire sinew]

It’s been a rough week

[umbral charm]

Or just renaming it...3DO, perhaps ?

[dire sinew]

There may be trouble with starting a core name with a number (I don’t know if that is true, we are all kind of parroting the same information about it, but someone mentioned it when the core was announced)

[umbral charm]

Oh yeah, that's right.

The s32x case.

[dire sinew]

Oh right, duh

[marble jetty]

[umbral charm]

Okay, the core will be renamed.

As "Peter File". 😏

(IT Crowd joke)

'Good Lord' for PCN for pronouncing it.

Without joking (badly), I can try to mail him or leave a note on the comments of the video at a later time.

[dire sinew]

No rush (unless the first unstable is coming soon….………😏)

[umbral charm]

I need some help on how to write it politely.
I'm thinking about...

I've seen during the first second of the video the current name of the core.

Please consider editing it for something else before doing a first public release as it is very questionable English slang for illegal (sexual) practices.
And it could interfere with your very valuable and appreciated work.

Thank you for considering my request,

How about it ?

[vapid swallow]

I like real3DO as well

[dire sinew]

I would change “interfere with” to “distract from”. But I think that’s fine duder. It’s important that it’s your voice 🙂

[umbral charm]

Done.

Sooner is better.

[dire sinew]

Thank you again for all you do, Zet

[umbral charm]

Mailed him and left a message on the video.

And left that possible suggestion for real3DO + motivating that choice.

[dense remnant]

"Paging Peter File. Is there a Peter File in the terminal?"

[sharp pendant]

Also worth noting that Panasonic was just one of several companies who made the 3DO, it isn't like Sega or Nintendo

Panasonic were just the one who made the most units, and were more involved with the platform

Oh god, I didn't even make the nonce connection with P3DO. Yeah that needs to change before he drops the core.

Did you suggest "real3do"?

[umbral charm]

Yes.

[sharp pendant]

Ace, thanks

Maybe when he updates he can fix the "Insert Disk" typo 😉

[visual sonnet]

Off topic question cause I'm relatively new to Mister.

I see the spot for test builds and unstable nightlies.

Is there a place to check and see when update all has been updated so if you run It, you know what new content is being added?

Update all patch notes basically

[sharp pendant]

Update all is unofficial and grabs things from various sources, so the short answer is no. Pretty much every day something changes. Best just run it and enjoy watching what new things it grabs. There is a reason it is the average MiSTer user's favourite "game" 🙂

[visual sonnet]

It all flies so fast I'm not sure what ends up being new 😂

I usually just scroll thru arcade and see what's new.

[modern gate]

it's such a neat part of video game history. I don't recall any other gaming console doing this model.

last night I learned that 3DO also had cheap fees compared to the likes of Nintendo. You only had to pay 3DO $6 per game instead of Nintendo's $10

and later they went and lowered it from $6 to...4 I think? Or maybe it was 3

[sharp pendant]

Trying to think myself. There are definitely examples of other companies making consoles, but as obscure one offs, like that fancy Game Cube that is also a DVD player

You see it more on computers, like MSX

[cunning drift]

Was Nuon made by more than one company?

[umbral charm]

That's a good sign, personally, about the health on the global project. 😁

[visual sonnet]

I'm pretty sure it dropped to $3 at one point

A real shame the M2 never saw a release. I think it would've done well

[modern gate]

I learned that by watching the video that Stop Skeletons from Fighting did on the 3DO port of Doom. What a fun watch that was.

[visual sonnet]

Doom 3DO is a hell of a story

The initial company that was supposed to do it ended up doing nothing

The CEO did it's soundtrack though

Later spent time in jail for kid p**n

[modern gate]

yeah 😦

had to lol at him sending jpgs of new guns to the last dev of the game and asking her to put them in the game oh and also that he never sent her the source code instead telling her "you've got the game don't you?"

ohhhhh and the craziest part - he wanted cut scenes in the game and a demon costume was even created!

[real rapids]

panasonicreal3dointeractivemultiplayer.rbf or bust.

[static magnet]

How about "Trip's folly"?

[distant grove]

REAL3DO would work I'm sure. Or call it the hardwares codename Opera

[distant grove]

It was free at first. Then it hit $3.

[static magnet]

Sharp had a longtime deal with Nintendo to make FC and SFC based hardware. Twin Famicom, Famicom titler, C1 TV combo, etc. Not sure how it started, though it may have been an extension of their license from making old Japanese PC titles like Super Mario Bros Special for the X1.

[distant grove]

Yeah, that's a good example of a big company. Saturn is another. Phillips too. Only difference is 3do didn't make any hardware, the other companies had their own systems out there.

[distant grove]

Yeah. Samsung, Toshiba, and maybe another company. They fitted the nuon hardware in standard DVD players mostly. A puzzling marketing strategy but hey, it wasn't too terribly shit of hardware. The games didn't look horrendous.

If I had to assume, the nuon is what the engineers envisioned the final result of a bug-free complete Jaguar was supposed to be. A lot of the jag people were involved from what the internet has said

[static magnet]

Nuon needs some homebrew to show what it was really capable of, besides a super nice port of Tempest 2000. Are there dev guides or anything leaked?

[silent oak]

Wait, that wasn't Robby's jest??

[solid canopy]

The Nuon SDK is definitely out there; I think VM Labs themselves released it to the public at some point.

[umbral charm]

Some follow-up with srg320.

He doesn't see the issue with the name.

So I explained it to him more directly.

The core will be renamed as '3DO'.

I've left a quick note too, about DIsk --> Disc.

[silent oak]

oh my god that's precious and I live on the same patch of landmass as him

also I thought core folders can't start with a number?

[dire sinew]

We need to protect SRG and Robby at all cost. the internet has not yet corrupted them

[dense remnant]

That's if you believe Robby. 😏

Should be easy enough to test... just rename an existing core to begin with a number in the name and see if it still works.

...with names.txt, too.

[sharp pendant]

Oh, is it possible for a core name to start with a number then? That's great news, thanks for sorting 🙂

[brazen fern]

The game folder name is based on a string within the rbf rather than it's filename
setname in an mgl should test it

/media/fat/saves/3DOJKSNES# ls
'Super Mario World (USA).sav'

Seems to work OK

[ivory spoke]

3DO core has me giving money to patreon again.

[unkempt ferry]

WHo to? Sorg rarely posts on his patron.

[dire sinew]

https://www.patreon.com/srg320

[unkempt ferry]

Last posted earlier this month, then before that last June? JUst signed up and paid.

[gaunt imp]

Don't expect frequent updates on his Patreon. Do expect quality outcomes though. The guy seems to always find a way to make it happen. Fkn' Legend.

[tiny marsh]

Yeah, he’s not making content for patreon - he’s making cores and patreon is a way of supporting him.

Code first, patreon last

[brazen fern]

I remember someone here once asked if another person was srg320, and kitrinx responded no, Sergiy would talk less and code more

That

[unkempt ferry]

Pay most of the devs a few quid, every little helps.

[harsh crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2lgEyNaop4

[dense remnant]

Just to be clear, Sorg(elig) is a different person. Not the same as Srg(320)

[verbal fjord]

Srg keeps slicing his "free time" finer and finer as he adds these cores

[modern gate]

TIL. Thank you for bringing this up 😮

[unkempt ferry]

Well, I support them both anyway. 🙂

[sharp pendant]

Incase anyone missed it, srg320 in addition to stealthily working on a 3DO core casually dropped initial support for S-TV into the Saturn core, because that is how he rolls.

[verbal fjord]

Srg is a Verilog machine

[tiny marsh]

Not to mention lots of recent work on the SNES and PCE cores

[sharp pendant]

Yep, casually dropping Sufami Turbo support into the SNES core was a left field treat recently

[marble sandal]

Its just really funny to me we been arguing over whether or not a 3D0 core should even be made and someone has been working on it the whole time.

[karmic basin]

Goes to show even the know-it-alls don’t know as much as they know 😉

[real rapids]

I was a know-it-all, and I knew-it-all!

[karmic basin]

Coulda been a contender, Mario

[marble sandal]

I know certain people didnt seem excited to hear that news

[ivory spoke]

I don't care what he posts on Paterson, I want him to have money so he can make a really good 3DO core.

I actually kinda hate Patreon and didn't even install the app.

[modern gate]

Why did someone even bother to make gif of this if they didn't subtitle it "do not want!" 😂

[cobalt zephyr]

Wait

Is SRG a core

That makes cores

[verbal fjord]

This is entirely possible!

[modern gate]

Big if true lol

[real rapids]

He's a core part of the community.

[tiny marsh]

You can stay

[covert wagon]

Coreception

[real rapids]

So who here loves 3DO! 😚

[devout crow]

I learned to perform Ryu's Super on 3DO's port of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo. The Audio CD visualizer effects are beautiful. Nice memories. To this day I remember the rental store owner frustration, that had the aforementioned 3DO, when he found out his brand new Playstation didn't had a visualizer, one was only added on later bios revisions.

[plush mica]

I can't wait for this one, superior versions of Return Fire, Starblade, The Need for Speed and Wing Commander III, not to mention the likes of Burning Soldier and Starfighter

[tiny marsh]

<tumbleweed.gif>

[dire sinew]

Which one is 3DO? Is that the blue one with wheels or the gold one that walks?

[visual sonnet]

Owned my 3DO back in 1994. I loved it then, and love it today

[dense remnant]

The more you spent on it, the more you love it.
It's science.

[visual sonnet]

I genuinely enjoyed the games I had on it.

Space Hulk
Immercenary
Road Rash
Need For Speed
Return Fire
Madden Football
Star Control II
FIFA Soccer
Way of the Warrior
Crash N Burn
AD&S Slayer and Deathkeep

And quite a few more.

[plush mica]

I bought the PAL version on release, later switching to an NTSC one, the Panasonic FZ1 of course, which is dense enough to stop a tank.
I still have that NTSC model and, even after years of "superior" consoles in my collection, the 3DO remains the best place to play The Need for Speed (OG title) when it still resembled its Amiga Test Drive ancestor as well as Return Fire. Also, I played way too much Starblade than is healthy, love that game!

[distant grove]

Starblade and burning soldier are probably my favorite rail shooters ever

[visual sonnet]

I love Burning Soldier.

[distant grove]

The cinematics and the soundtrack make that game what it is, that's for sure

[visual sonnet]

Exactly. Gameplay is basic as hell. But man that soundtrack was slapping

[unkempt ferry]

Advice, been offered a boxed, complete Goldstar 3d0, controllers, manuals, leads, etc/ £200. ie £248, fully working. Worth going for?

[real rapids]

Really just depends on if it's worth it to you as a collector's piece. With srg320 working on a MiSTer core, there's a good chance you simply won't need it if your biggest concern is to be able to play 3DO games. Could be a solid piece for core testing though.

[modern gate]

We could ask you to play all the way to the end of Plumbers Don't Wear Ties to see if a graphical issue in the core exists on real hardware

Could you play burned games on the 3DO?

[sinful cliff]

iirc 3DO lacks copy protection, so you can just burn discs and it should work fine.

[modern gate]

cool cool

[distant grove]

Goldstars don't like burnt media. The 101 is extremely picky. The 202 and 203 have copy protection

[karmic basin]

Anyone looking to buy a 3DO and play “backups” are best served with an FZ-10.

[sinful cliff]

I guess I was just fed misinformation? I'm not at all familiar with 3DO, so forgive me if I get any details wrong.

[karmic basin]

You’re good. We’d just hate to see anyone spend that much and not get what they were wanting.

[distant grove]

It's no big deal. The information floating around was typically created by YouTube personalities. Most of it is flat out wrong or at least half wrong

[distant grove]

Fz10 can be picky too. Really just depends on the laser and your backups. I always get Sony supremas. They play in almost all my 3do systems

[visual sonnet]

The FZ-1 plays burnt media too

Not that it's important but the FZ-10 I know does have a weird issue with Road Rash where it won't play engine sounds and music at the same time.

Something with the ram in the FZ-10

Not sure if it affects any other games or not.

[modern gate]

is there a optical drive emulator for the 3DO? Or some flash solution?

https://www.timeextension.com/reviews/usb-to-3do-ode-a-usd60-gateway-to-interactive-multiplayer-bliss

yes, yes there is

[real rapids]

Never forget the D disaster from Limited Run Games!

[surreal adder]

Yup. Runs great too. https://www.ebay.com/itm/204672047128?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=cmmsvikcrx2&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=aCg5zPuDSLC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[distant grove]

They've been available since about 2011 I think.

Mnemo ode's were the first and only for a long time. Fixel created his, then helped create an open source solution. There is a ton of 3do ode's for sale on the web. A lot of them are iffy as hell as far as reliability, like the pico powered ones

[covert wagon]

You listen to the people in my damn YT comments and you’d think it was the ugliest MK ever made and also burnt down a kindergarten

[visual sonnet]

People are dumb

[covert wagon]

I just love that people get angry lol. It’s like fine…you don’t like it. But a couple nut bags were accusing me of “lying and being deceitful”…cause I said a game is good? 🤣

[visual sonnet]

That's fucking hysterical, considering thinking something good or bad is completely subjective to every individual lol

[paper totem]

FZ-1 plays burns, but honestly MiSTer + SDCard is going to be 1000x better experience.

My 3DO mostly gathers dust.

But MiSTer is probably going to replace most of my retro collection. Except N64/SNES/Commodore 64 (emotional connection from childhood).

[unkempt ferry]

Was just having a quick look, and that 200 quid that I thought was a good deal, here in the uk where they are rare, isn't as good as it looks. So I looked on ebay USA and there's loads of the panasonic ones, they go for about £130/40. I guess cos there's more of them over there. Maybe not a good idea, you know what this retro thing is like, you buy a spectrum, then a 64, then an st, then an amiga, then the consoles. And it's nice for a while, then you think well I've got the same thing on Mister, so all they do is clog up the house. 🙂

[modern gate]

oh it probably will be. It's good though that some people out there will have original hardware so that we can compare any errors on MiSTer to original hardware during the testing phase

[sharp pendant]

What are you looking for? An FZ-1? I imported the Japanese model with the 240p switch for £150 all in from Japan about 5 years ago

[karmic basin]

This is over the MK2 3DO port?!

It’s one person working through it. It’s not even close to done yet.

The internet was a mistake.

[marble sandal]

Its like that with everything now days..they think their opinion should be the only opinion. Everyone isnt gonna like everything and thats ok with me. 😁

[covert wagon]

somewhere down the line it went from "this isnt for me, I wont watch it / consume it" to "I dont like this. It should not exist"

[marble sandal]

Yeah and people get so mad and over emotional even when you just say its not for me or Im not gonna watch it. Like people get so mad at me coz I dont like the trailers for the new superman movie. "You shouldnt judge a movie by a few minutes of footage" well thats what a trailer is for and people judge all the time whether they want to see a movie based on trailers ..lol .its just silly

[distant grove]

What kills me is people will dog the gameplay, but not even play it. If you want to criticize the gameplay, then you need to fucking play it first.

And of course gameplay looks jank as hell when @covert wagon plays a game... Dude records drunk half the time. Go look at his early ISMA videos...

Chicago drivers...

[marble sandal]

Also I would argue if something isnt close enough to finished that you can make a judgement about it..it doesnt need to be shown off.

[distant grove]

The game isn't broken though. It plays very well. And because the latest beta was made public, it caught the attention of another big mk guy (Ermaccer) and he joined our server. He found 5 bugs immediately and they were able to be put on the to-do list. We only have 4 pro level testers right now, so having someone who knows the programming and gameplay behind MK like Ermaccer, is great. How are we supposed to know how to contact the guy if we didn't even really know he existed?

[covert wagon]

lol I want to submit IMSA to Awesome Games Done Quick as "DWI Percent"

[marble sandal]

I get wanting it out there for bug reporting. Ermancer probably found stuff the average player wouldnt notice. I just in general dont like when"its not finished" is used as a defense. Finished games can have bugs so whether its finished or not is imo irrelevent.

[distant grove]

Sure, if you're evaluating this at a single point instead of the bigger picture.... "It's a beta" isn't an excuse if half the graphical assets are missing, the gameplay is at unrecognizable levels of bad, and it's missing SFX. But this is a game that has more content in its BETA than some retail mk ports had on the shelf. A public beta is for gameplay testing. People watching a video, and saying "looks terribly off" or "this isn't worth playing, gameplay is off" and not liking "it's a beta. Play it. Report bugs" as a response don't have any useful input anyway. That is why it's uncalled for and annoying. Theres a bigger picture here than "you're not allowed to criticize, it's not finished"

[timid osprey]

wasn't it here where this discussion took place? anyhoo, if anybody needed to know this, here you go. this is how sony announced the playstation. They had a huge banner calling it the PS-X

may 10, 1994 press conference

[paper totem]

We should port Wing Commander 1/2/Privateer and 4 to 3DO

there was a cancelled Wing Commander 4 3DO port.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wing_Commander_IV:_The_Price_of_Freedom

[silent oak]

Good luck figuring out the timings for WC1 and 2

Nobody did

[paper totem]

We've reverse engineered pretty much the entire engines now.

Animation formats, sprites weapons talking heads etc. All sound formats too

[modern gate]

that's so cool

[karmic basin]

I’ve never looked. Are there modern ports for the WC games now?

[paper totem]

Wc IV is getting remade with VR and AI video upscaling

Wc3 is similar

Strike commander has a reimplementation project

There's at least 2 projects to reverse engineer the early games and update them for modern systems.

[karmic basin]

Are there links you can share to these projects? I’d like to follow their progress.

[visual sonnet]

As a diehard wing commander fan that's really exciting

[dire sinew]

What are the definitive versions of wing commander 1-4

I have the kilrathi saga on PC - but I dunno if those are the best ports versions

I kind of want to go back to them

[unreal ravine]

I wonder if SNAC will be possible with the upcoming core in some fashion. It would be spectacular if daisy-chaining worked, but it would be EXPLOSIONS if the ability to play sound from the controller was possible.

[silent oak]

They aren't too great, even with compatibility patches the game speed is wrong (too fast) and sound effects are too loud

[visual sonnet]

A lot of people crap on it now, but I recently played thru Super Wing Commander on the 3DO which is the first game with an expansion pack I believe. I really enjoyed it

[dire sinew]

Emulated good? I may check it out

[paper totem]

Kilrathi Saga is the definitive WC3... for now. WC1/2 you want the DOS editions.

for WC4 and Prophecy you want the DVD editions...

https://www.wcnews.com/chatzone/threads/confederation-work-in-progress.31551/ - wc1/2 remake efforts.

https://wcrespace.com/ - Wing Commander IV remake.

Kilrathi Saga had the music from 1/2 rendered on an MT32 recorded as WAV and shoved on the disk. But it was missing expansion pack audio tracks. It also had the music from 3 rendered on an SC-55/SC-88 and encoded into the game. The only other release like that was WC3 Japan which was the Windows build of the game without the rest of Kilrathi Saga.

WC1/2/3 DOS all run in MiSTer AO486. 3 runs but has performance issues, 4 runs similar to 3. Privateer runs well on MiSTer I'd love a 68040LC (non-FPU) core for an M68K Apple core that could run Super Wing Commander. 3DO core is also awesome for SWC.

[dire sinew]

So ao486 for 1 and 2? Perfect. Super wing commander not worth it?

[silent oak]

I'd say you would only play SWC if you love WC1 and want to see an extremely dated remake of it

I would also rec WC1 for Sega CD if only for voices

There's a mod for Kilrathi Saga version of WC1 with Sega CD voice acting, by the by

[karmic basin]

Thanks for all the info @paper totem

[dire sinew]

I’m gonna play it. Will pair nicely with my bsg rewatch

[orchid lance]

AO486 is 486/33Mhz-like, so I'd say WC3 & WC4 are indeed a bit too much for that if I remember correctly

[dire sinew]

Does anyone know if the 0mhz version of WC1 has the speech pack?

[paper totem]

SWC has full speech and extra missions

Wc1 had two add-ons, but swc expanded on one of them.

[dire sinew]

I swear there was a speech pack for WC1 DOS

Didn’t Paladin have an accent?

i remember an accent

[paper totem]

There wasn't, wc2 had speech and wc privateer did

[dire sinew]

ahh ok

[paper totem]

Paladin is Scottish

[dire sinew]

yes!

he was indeed

[paper totem]

There is speech in wc1 on segacd

There's a fan project to hack that into the games

SuperWC has full speech which is awesome.

Wc3 psx and 3do have full colour comms videos. Pc edition is greyscale.

[dire sinew]

mac version of super wing commander is no good, right?

[paper totem]

Mac version of suoerwc is awesome

[dire sinew]

I seem to remember reading that

oh is it?

maybe I’ll play it there

[paper totem]

The only issue is mister can't run it atm

And joystick is hard to get

[dire sinew]

I bet I can use UTM or whatever that app is

[paper totem]

I was hacking on sheepshaver and basilisk ii to make it

I got a single button joystick to work. Couldn't figure our multibutton. You could combine my version with keyboard button mapping to have full joystick

I'm curious to how srg320s core handles swc atm

[visual sonnet]

Is the AO486 core pretty much maxed out as far as possible performance goes on the MiSTer?

[paper totem]

Afaik, no. It's just a very inefficient core. Rather than replicating a 486 CPU, it's based on a software approximate, it's missing FPU and could get optimised further. There's a lot of things you could do to optimise it, some of which the developers don't want to do.

e.g you could axe a bunch of sound support to get more FPGA space, you could rewrite the CPU to be based on a chip design and not the BOCHS x86 architecture.

I'd like to see a core done that axes some sound and gives the VGA card more capacity.

Stuff like that, you'd probably need to split the core into different Core files for different tasks.

[visual sonnet]

They could drop AdLib support then and just do like Sound Blaster 16 right?

[timid mason]

it's unlikely to ever be much better than it is on the de10

it could be better written, but even then im not sure it would be a ton better, and the fpga is very full. Someone like robert might be able to do amazing things, but it would be a massive effort and I dont really see it happening soon

[visual sonnet]

Even as is, it's done so much more than I ever thought it could. So far the only DOS game I've installed that I've been unable to get to run is AfterLife.

Eventually there will be a more powerful FPGA I'm sure and it can improve from there. As is it's still pretty wild

[karmic basin]

I hope Terry is still out there carrying the WotW torch.

[verbal fjord]

I think he missed the mark on how WotW would carry the console, unless a significant portion of the total ~2 million 3DOs were strictly because of WotW

[sinful cliff]

It's kind of a miracle that Naughty Dog would bounce back with the Crash Bandicoot games just a few years later.

[ashen palm]

Thank Mark Cerny for that one

And Jason Rubin leaving in 2004 really put them on a different trajectory

[distant grove]

@visual sonnet WOTW slander going on rn

[visual sonnet]

Pfff

They just don't understand

[distant grove]

He's not wrong. It does take a session to sit down and understand how to play it. It's not very pick up and play

[visual sonnet]

Don't get me wrong...it's not perfect. Has some balancing issues for sure

But once you get it...it's great

[modern gate]

that bit at the end there, I never knew there was Sanyo one

[covert wagon]

There were so many. The Goldstar Alive II and the much rarer LG Alive II being the most fun IMO

@distant grove still has an LG Alive II I think

[distant grove]

Sold it

[distant grove]

https://archive3do.com/sanyo-try-imp-21j/

[covert wagon]

Must have netted some solid cash. At least a grand I’d hope

[distant grove]

No. I sold it to a jester, so I broke even.

[covert wagon]

Haha we do that too often

[distant grove]

Shit was broken really.

[covert wagon]

I sold you that M2 GPU card for what I paid

[paper totem]

Has anyone ever considered porting Descent to 3DO?

ooof, E3 95 had a Descent 1 port

[distant grove]

Its been talked about, porting it back. Would be even nicer to find whatever build was being worked on for the 3do/m2

Same for disruptor

[covert wagon]

It’s a bummer disruptor is lost

[modern gate]

from Dec 1994 EGM

[karmic basin]

Ah, Virtuoso…

[distant grove]

That game is so.... Interesting.... That I can help but love it. Quite unique for its time even if it is a bullshit game of mostly wandering around

[visual sonnet]

It's certainly unique

[dire sinew]

I know I'm in the minority here, but I am so excited for this core

[visual sonnet]

Ah you aren't the only one. I'm a diehard 3DO fan and super excited for it

If people don't wanna try it, it's their loss.

There are plenty of unique and interesting games on the 3DO

[dire sinew]

no no, I know. was a bad joke :p

[visual sonnet]

Hell I'm excited for the CD-I core lol

I hope it also gets the MPEG card support as well. Would love to play the definitive version of Lost Eden

[dire sinew]

CD-I, Jaguar, and 3DO are 3 of the 4 horsemen

[visual sonnet]

What's the 4th? Virtual boy?

[surreal adder]

I cant wait for this core too! I love 3DO. Only downfall is ill have to add another flash drive to my Mister LUL

[dire sinew]

Some say virtual boy, some say CPS3, some speak of the forbidden cores like PCFX or a finished X68k… no one knows for sure

[visual sonnet]

A PCFX core would be bad ass

[karmic basin]

Bandai Playdia

[cunning drift]

Ngage though that's not feasible.

[tranquil mortar]

The 4th is truly the Game Com core.

[obtuse pewter]

4th is PC-FX

[umbral charm]

Furrtek decapped some 3DO chips.

[visual sonnet]

As a newbie here what does decapping those mean?

[ember seal]

its basically taking photographs of the chips with a kind of microscope so you can see gate-for-gate exactly what it does

it still takes an obscene amount of man-hours to analyze the photographs and make them into netlists, but its the gold standard way to reproduce something 1:1

even if you're not making a 1:1 reproduction for whatever reason (very common) they're useful references to track down bugs/behaviors

[rich willow]

@distant grove

Your chips reached it's goal.

[distant grove]

Yepp. We spoke about it when he decapped them. Still some more work

We have anvil scans somewhere that are pretty old but older variants when it was madam and Clio are important too

[orchid lance]

The anvil of Crom!

[karmic basin]

It's always Nobunaga's Ambition and never Whobunaga's Ambition

[modern gate]

I'll never forget that as a kid (I'm talking like 7, 8, 9 years old) I called it NoBUNGAS Ambition

[karmic basin]

I most definitely did that too.

[cunning drift]

Because Dr. No is better than Dr. Who?

[dense remnant]

Well... now, maybe.

[dire sinew]

3DAYO?

[fossil sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/delia-delia-deetz-beetle-juice-dayo-shocked-gif-4579124

[open oasis]

We don't even have a core yet, and my addiction has already taken hold. I did a thing earlier.

@distant grove @covert wagon ...did I make a mistake? Please tell me it's not a terrible controller?

[covert wagon]

A decent controller for sure

[open oasis]

Thanks for the feedback, my wallet feels better.

[distant grove]

Sucks balls

Mine was wore the fuck out and the diagonals are not that good

Mat catz 3do controller is much better. Trust and believe. Best controller for the system. Feels like a Saturn Dpad

[dire sinew]

a steal at twice the price https://www.ebay.com/itm/144385500658

[open oasis]

Well that's disappointing. Will keep an eye out on the Mad Catz. The one @dire sinew posted is like double what I paid for the Fighting Commander. Oh well, gotta start somewhere.

[dire sinew]

I fear that this going to be something that gets more expensive when the core drops

[open oasis]

That's why I paid more than I wanted to for the Hori. 3DO stuff already seems pricey to me compared to others. I only ever had the pack-in Panasonic pad with the FZ-10 back in the day, and it was...fine. But yeah, I'm seeing more imported stuff on eBay with inflated prices lately. Even stuff on Yahoo Auctions Japan seems to be creeping up, though nothing like US prices.

[dire sinew]

I wouldn’t ever kink shame someone for wanting an original controller. But if you are going to buy off brand stuff anyway, I feel like we are definitely in “just use an M30” territory

[open oasis]

My goto is actually the Wii Classic Controller Pro with Raphnet or Reflex USB adapter. But there are a few third party types I like to have for each system. Hori Fighting Commander and Interact Pro Pad n Program Pad. Not saying they are necessarily good controllers, I just like them.

[dire sinew]

totally get it

[distant grove]

Agreed

[distant grove]

The seller has a mental disorder

@open oasis the problem with these controllers that have been talked about, is theyre old as fuck. They hold a legacy by word of mouth since forums became popular 15 years ago. The controller someone remembered being amazing 20 years ago, is now 30 years old. If you want a "genuine" 3do controller, JP2X is the best. 3rd party MadCatz beats even any genuine controller even in its best condition. Realistically you probably really should go for a M30

[open oasis]

Thanks for the feedback and info, it's appreciated!

[acoustic lily]

Is there a download for the core yet, or is it still in closed development?

[covert wagon]

Nothing yet

[stark nova]

Think I got banned?

So, 'out', I suppose

[sinful cliff]

Srg is still busy cleaning up the SEGA Saturn core. No idea if that is stalling the work on the 3DO core or not.

Srg is pretty reclusive when it comes to dropping builds, so who knows when the first 3DO build will appear.

[real rapids]

Archive3DO out here crushing dreams ||and balls!?||

[distant grove]

Nah, you weren't banned or restricted

I didn't ban or restrict you anyway. Only 2 other people have that ability and neither of them use it unless it's legitimate phishing links being spammed by bots

I also don't ban people typically. You have to be a serious nuisance for me to consider banning.

[stark nova]

Weird

about...2-3 min after I join it kicks me out

I cleared my cache to, as I saw online that's a thing

[distant grove]

I swear I'm not gaslighting you LMAO I legitimately haven't not kicked or banned you. You don't do anything for me to even consider it

So it's gotta be a bug

[stark nova]

That's my guess

I've rejoined twice today and both times I got the boot after a few min

[distant grove]

I sent a direct invite. Try that

[stark nova]

👍

let me clear the cache on the desktop app as well

[distant grove]

It does have a 10 minute period where you can't immediately send anything. Maybe that has to do with whatever bug is happening

[stark nova]

I wonder, yeah

[tribal sandal]

I wasn’t around when the first Saturn build dropped but maybe it took a while after he released his first YouTube videos until release so it’s probably going to be the same for 3DO

[dire sinew]

Looks like it might have been a while.

[sharp pendant]

It was interesting that he dropped the video, as it seemed like an announcement he was drawing a line under Saturn and moving onto 3DO as his main project, but then he started in S-TV, did more Saturn updates and also things on SNES and PCE, so who knows. He has certainly been keeping himself busy.

[dire sinew]

we have to stop reporting bugs.

it's the only way

[covert wagon]

“Core is done. K thx. Go do 3DO Plz”

[dire sinew]

that's what I've been trying to say this whole time

Saturn core runs Panzer Dragoon Saga - we're done here, let's 3DO-it up

[covert wagon]

You misspelled Saturn Bomberman and Elevator Action Returns

[dire sinew]

I didn't go to college

[silent oak]

weird way to spell Time Gal & Ninja Hayate

[real rapids]

And Dragon Force!

[covert wagon]

New review unit in so you know I’m testing it with the important stuff

[marble jetty]

Thank you for this valuable trolling tip.

I will retriple my efforts in testing to ensure I find every bug imaginable to keep delaying the 3DO core.

[silent oak]

jag lost to 3do??

[dire sinew]

jag lost to everyone

I think they sold more super segas

[dire sinew]

https://tenor.com/xime.gif

[dire sinew]

it is why it is one of the forbidden cores

[marble jetty]

lol N64, it tried though

[dire sinew]

it's power was too great, it had to be stifled...it had to be contained

800k virtual boys. 300k PC-FX, 300k game.com

[marble jetty]

Oh lol even the Game.com

Wow

[distant grove]

Jag lost to CDi my man

[dire sinew]

yeah dude

[silent oak]

IT LOST TO PC-FX

DAMN

[marble jetty]

I mean, are you gonna buy Polygon McShooty Land or Doki Doki Balloon Fighter Heart?

[dire sinew]

I mean, you named your console Jag and you have zero visual novels

[marble jetty]

I don’t get it

[dire sinew]

I’ll tell you when you’re older

[marble jetty]

like the show?

[dire sinew]

mmhmm

[dense remnant]

• Nov 1993: Jaguar is released in North America.
• 1996: Console and game development discontinued.
• 1999: Patents and rights released to the public domain.
  Hasbro: "Please, can anyone help try to make this a successful platform? We don't even care about profits anymore. It's a matter of general principle now."

[silent oak]

that's one way to do it

[rigid shoal]

You know.. I owned all of these systems back in the day and it still shocks me to see those Saturn numbers. Sega just completely mishandled the system. It could have been taken into a safe direction and gained traction. Yes, it was indeed a 3D hungry environment, but there was still many games they could have developed in 2D, quality titles, that could have boosted sales. Tragic for sure.

[marble jetty]

There was no stopping Sony that generation. They had the better development deals, hardware, and tools. They were hungry to gain a foothold in the market and made huge investments into developer relations.

[silent oak]

"299"

[marble jetty]

I think Sega did the best they could, especially in Japan, but Sega’s arcade focused design philosophy was not what the market wanted anymore.

The US team also squandered all their market lead and profit from the Genesis days. They got real lucky early on but they had no clue what they were doing towards the end of the Genesis. Sega of Japan’s mistake was letting a bunch of marketing executives in the US play pretend game developer and they royally screwed the pooch on every angle.

Sega of Japan also got lucky with the Saturn. Sega was never a big name in Japan outside of arcades and the Master System + Genesis were basically also-rans from the very beginning.

The Saturn had no chance from the beginning. Sega caught wise a year or so after launch which is why they tried to reboot with the Dreamcast.

Whatever Sega was peddling, no one outside Japan wanted. Focusing more on 2D just would’ve killed the system faster outside of Japan.

And that’s jus taste from my latest book “Bullshit industry analysis from Robby”

[real rapids]

I remember back in highschool in my typing class, our lessons were simply named after the keys that we were learning for it. And one day our lesson in the book was for the "B", "U", "L", and "Shift" keys, and it was quite literally named B U L Shift in the text book. Not joking. I'm sure Robby wrote that lesson!

[covert wagon]

Lies. There is no literacy in Wisconsin. Words? You all communicate with grunts

[dense remnant]

There were a lot of missteps, miscommunication, and downright disagreement between Sega of Japan and US regarding the development and launch of the Saturn.
...and the 32X certainly didn't help matters any.

The 32X was a textbook example of 'just because you can do something doesn't mean you should'...

[sinful cliff]

Then there is the SEGA Neptune they were planning too.

[surreal adder]

And cheese!

[covert wagon]

Yes but Wisconsin cheese sucks. Vermont is where the good cheese comes from

[surreal adder]

Im biased though. I grew up in southern wisconsin and northern illinois lol

[distant grove]

Should have just went with the SVP and sold what they cool like Nintendo did with the FX. 32x was such a waste of time, money, and resources

[covert wagon]

I’d never know. You spelled every word in that sentence correctly 🤣

I kid I kid. I grew up in New England. I’ve been in Chicago 16 years. So I drag @real rapids for being from Wisconsin

[surreal adder]

All good i know haha. I tell people i was born in the middle of a cornfield 🤣

[covert wagon]

I spent the night with your mom 9 months previously in a cornfield. Thats weird

@real rapids you have a half sibling!

[real rapids]

I knew it!

[marble jetty]

I honestly think if Sony wasn’t in the picture, Sega would’ve won Japan handedly. The Japanese did not want what Nintendo was peddling in the slightest lol.

Probably would’ve done much better in the US/Europe too.

[real rapids]

Oh no doubt.

[surreal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-amazed-woah-shocked-mind-blown-gif-17460895

[distant grove]

But with M2 ready in 96, Saturn should have been shitting brix

[velvet geyser]

it was necessary for Sony to win the console war so we could all experience Concord. and disk drives that don’t work when the psn goes down. 😇

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/o3RtzSqN5cF1Pxav1H3OcTU0KnSb9S_2rI0AcnMFh_c/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/GjOzVt9aQAYjyei.jpg%3Alarge

by the gods i just love modern gaming

and playstation is the most modernist of all

-# rant over

-# but also probably not tho

[distant grove]

Should have just bought a 3do, bros... Trip would be taking good care of us rn...

[dense remnant]

You wouldn't have needed to worry about anything... because the disc drive in the FZ-1 most likely would've stopped working properly after 2-3 years anyway. 😄

It eventually got to the point where I left the screws out of the case of my launch model so I could easily remove the top half of the case to manually give discs a spin with my finger because they wouldn't start automatically.

[modern gate]

makes me kinda glad I stopped caring about new games and systems around 2005

day 0 patches, seasons, networks being down..... yeah... I'll stick to the MiSTer

[sinful cliff]

MiSTer still has it's fair share of funkiness to it. You need to cobble together the proper files to actually play the games and make sure the MiSTer files are up to date, which can eat into your time. But yeah, still not as egregious as modern systems can get.

[karmic basin]

We’re just going to pretend that archive.org being down didn’t screw up update_all for a month? 😆

[modern gate]

I mean.... for people who play update_all like a game I guess that's a problem lol

but not having an internet connection isn't going to stop us from playing games on the MiSTer

we don't have to worry about loading a game and having to wait for a 70gb update to download

[karmic basin]

Nothing will stop us. We are legion

[marble jetty]

How far along was the M2? Why was it cancelled?

It seemed pretty cool when I read about it in magazines.

[distant grove]

Robby .... Robby ..

[marble jetty]

where was the M1????

[distant grove]

https://archive3do.com/3do-m2-commercial/

[marble jetty]

Oh so it came out??

whaaaat

[distant grove]

Have you not watched VGE?

https://tenor.com/view/pisscord-gif-7378587637875019303

[marble jetty]

LOL, I guess not his M2 stuff

[modern gate]

asking the big questions. It's about time someone stood up to big 3D

[distant grove]

@covert wagon it's time we take care of Robby

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-how-do-we-kill-him-kill-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-16173908663927160281

[marble jetty]

No, you jabronis already made me start liking the 3DO

[covert wagon]

Some super fan you are

[modern gate]

FPGA, my dear Watson

I had no idea there was an adventure game on the 3DO

looking forward to playing this one for sure

[covert wagon]

It released. I have 13 of them lol

[distant grove]

Robby is a poser

This is quite the hit to the 3do community

[marble jetty]

All four of you!

[covert wagon]

https://youtu.be/Ib2MVyFfGws

[karmic basin]

GOT EM

[visual sonnet]

I've played thru It. It's really damn good.

[dense remnant]

"We’re just going to pretend that archive.org being down didn’t screw up update_all for a month?"

Only the BIOS and ROM grabbing functionality of it... which is something we don't condone, encourage, or support anyway, of course (that feature we pretend it doesn't do every time we recommend update_all). 😏

[modern gate]

ixnay on the romsay

[dire sinew]

archive.org being down goofed up update_all for a month, regardless of what we condone/encourage/support

[karmic basin]

Which is why I didn’t elaborate 😆

[dense remnant]

It's our own fault really for relying on Archive too much as our primary/only source for certain 'content'. There should be alternative download source options in preparation for something like that happening in the future.
Users of PSN services don't have that luxury, so it's not really a fair comparison.
Besides... if you've grabbed that content within the last few years, you're pretty much good to go. It rarely gets updated enough to make much of a difference in the context of MiSTer usage.

[dire sinew]

There is an alternate database for the pocket updaters, but I believe there was some static around adding that to update all as well

[karmic basin]

It’s worth pointing out that update_all is NOT part of the official MiSTer project. And I say that as someone who has their stuff distributed through it.

Only reason I joked about it was because that month coincided with a bunch of MiSTer Pi orders arriving, which made it very interesting for them.

[dense remnant]

True. Good point.

Very unfortunate timing.

[covert wagon]

dont forget @marble jetty added an alt downloader for everyone

Quest64_All ; it downloads 1000 copies of Quest 64

[modern gate]

there should be some part of the code that activates on June 4 2064 where it does that

[orchid lance]

Same here. I stopped caring at the same time, the PS2/XBOX/GC were my last consoles and that's where I totally lost interest in new stuff.

[dense remnant]

The PS3 is when I got back into consoles. I skipped the entire 6th gen, with various MMORPGs on PC consuming almost all of my time from the late '90s to mid '00s (The Dark Times™️).
I didn't get a Dreamcast or PlayStation 2 until many years after their initial releases.

[marble jetty]

more like Dark Age of Camelot amirite

[dense remnant]

Oddly, that was one I never played. 😄

It was pretty much just EverQuest, Guild Wars, and World of Warcraft.

[real rapids]

Robby not asking Awbacon this question is the ultimate troll move. 🫡

[modern gate]

I don't know who the 3DO authority is here: awbacon or archive3DO

[real rapids]

Time to hold the annual 3DO Authority competition. Winner becomes the laughing stock of the MiSTer Discord. Loser regains their dignity.|| I say as one of the biggest 3DO stans here! ||

[dense remnant]

WhyNotBoth.gif

[velvet geyser]

while y’all wait for the 3DO core’s first release.
May I recommend my favorite game on the platform, The Hoard.

it’s very playable right now on the Saturn core

I actually never had the game as a kid only a demo disc with the first playable chapter of the game

[real rapids]

I had that game back in the day. Very fun. Also featuring what's his name from Growing Pains!

[visual sonnet]

The Horde is an excellent little game

[marble jetty]

Did you know there was a successor system called the M2? Pretty cool, huh!

You can read up more about it on this site - https://archive3do.com/3do-m2/

[dire sinew]

Oh wow. Man, I wonder if it’s able to be emulated. Has anyone looked into this?

[karmic basin]

Ol Robby Kiki Dawg is in full troll tonight

[dense remnant]

I heard it was never officially released!

[verbal fjord]

There were dozens of them! DOZENS!

[static magnet]

I knew it was you, VGE. Just wasn’t 100% sure until this.

[distant grove]

It's emulated on mame. @covert wagon has videos on setting it up to play the arcade titles

[covert wagon]

lol they are fucking with you

@marble jetty knows M2. I forced him to love it

[marble jetty]

What do you know about the M2? I’m the expert here.

Maybe if you had a website like the one I linked, I’d take you seriously!

[distant grove]

TRVE!

[marble jetty]

Uhhh, did you cast a spell on me

[dire sinew]

They Greeked you Robby. R U N

[distant grove]

Fair... Still answering in case someone unknowingly reads and thinks M2 is mysterious vaporware because they don't know if someone is being sarcastic or not

[dire sinew]

Sorry archive. We are trolling bacon and you caught some collateral damage. Now I feel bad

(Not about bacon)

[distant grove]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[marble jetty]

I dunno nothing about anything but I have a ton of 3DO games sitting on my MiSTer ready to be played

[dire sinew]

Yeah. I think we finally convinced kuba and Jae to stop reporting Saturn bugs

[marble jetty]

The age of three dee oh faces is upon us.

[dire sinew]

Now we just have to take away srg’s neo geo, pce, and snes

[covert wagon]

haha I dont mind at all

but there is a hilarious amount of wrong info out there on 3DO and M2. I get told every video M2 didnt exist and was cancelled and no hardware was ever made. Which really makes me worry about people as do they think I am CGI'ing the hardware and games? 🤣

[dire sinew]

to be fair, until your vids, i was under the same impression. (or that the only thing that existed was prototype consoles and boards.)

Media coverage around the M2 in the 90s was weird because they would show you D2 and all the cool stuff coming and then….coverage just stopped. and if it ever came up in later issues of a magazine it was the “canceled M2 project”. So I think a lot of folks just assume that nothing came of it

[covert wagon]

stupid D2

[dire sinew]

THE FUTURE

[covert wagon]

I really dont think its out there any more

the one model animation I found and releases is probably all that remains

[dire sinew]

yeah. and then suddenly it was on the dreamcast

[covert wagon]

and that version is legit one of my fav Dreamcast games but I still want D2 with Dracula in an ancient castle

I got to talk with Kenji Eno about it a few years before his death and he was surprised anyone remembered it. Unfortunately as far as he knew it was all deleted and moved on from

dev kits were wiped and so the story goes sold as used PCs and one went to the receptionist as a clerical machine

since they were all Quadras that werent really useful for Dreamcast development

840AV spefically

[sinful cliff]

By the way, I hate that the unreleased console is called the M2, because it makes it more confusing whenever I have to talk about the completely unrelated development studio M2.

[dense remnant]

I have the same problem when I want to talk about Dragon Force on the Saturn.
"No, I'm not talking about speed metal..."

[covert wagon]

or the apple chip. That really fucked up search results forever haha

[dense remnant]

...or trying to search for content on the original Xbox.

[distant grove]

Dude people literally say it on his M2 videos too lol

[dire sinew]

I really think that was the narrative (at least here in the states). It was in all the magazines for like a year, and then it just vanished (and was referred to posthumously as "the canceled M2 project"). And that was kind of that. Once the internet came around, I don't think many folks were hunting down info.

I was genuinely surprised that not only were there games for it, but that Bacon had fucking arcade boards

[distant grove]

Yeah who let a loser like @covert wagon have the key to the keepers gate with M2?

[dire sinew]

I ask myself this question daily

But I have a jaguar and he doesn't so I think we both know who came out on top

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribbiani-it-was-me-it's-me-friends-gif-16459238154669060766

[marble jetty]

Sorry, I’m having a hard time following this chat with all those Saturn bug fixes.

[dense remnant]

Subtle...

[finite plinth]

Saturn is such a great console. With thousands of great games 😉

[marble jetty]

lol I troll because I love. The 3DO seems cool as hell and there’s a ton of games I want to play on it. I’m super excited for the core and knowing that SRG is working on it!

I mean I bought a 3DO controller when it got announced lol.

[finite plinth]

Maybe not a ton. But certainly a few. At least more than Jaguar 😉

[marble jetty]

Maaaaaan, I went from clowning on the Jaguar to genuinely enjoying it thanks to the core.

I think I just like video games too much.

Like obviously I have my preferences but being able to enjoy these consoles and games without an investment makes it really easy to appreciate the good qualities about them.

I mean, I honestly wasn’t even excited for the 3DO until the core got announced and I started to do some actual research on the games. There’s a lot of fun and weird stuff there that’s exclusive to the console!

Ok I’ll stop rambling, sorry. I’m just excited about the 3DO core lol

[visual sonnet]

You'll be shocked how many great games are on the 3DO. It's a shame it didn't achieve commercial success

[velvet geyser]

it had an interesting japanese library, Kenji Eno helped gift it a little market viability

unlike the western library which is aggressively “it’s the summer of 93 and fmv is the future of gaming”

[dense remnant]

The Dark Times™️

Although... modern games sure do have a lot of cutscenes. 🤔

OMG... they were right!

[visual sonnet]

I think the FMV talk is so over rated. Sega CD gets that same bad rep and it really isn't true. I did the math of American releases anyways, 13% of the Sega CD library is FMV games. For 3DO it was 9% it really wasn't that much. It's more that the magazines of the era focused heavily on those games

[velvet geyser]

Twisted: the game show lives in 90% of my 3do memories

[dense remnant]

Had hours of fun with that one with my brother and a couple of friends back then.

So much wacky fun.

[real rapids]

We played a stupid amount of Twisted back in the day. My sister's friend would beg to play it every time she visited!

[paper totem]

Pfft posers, everyone knows you need an Apple Pippin to be hard core 😉

[visual sonnet]

What does this mean?

[ember seal]

sounds like very preliminary stuff - documentation/research

[dire sinew]

it means he is working on it ❤️

[tiny marsh]

Now that he’s beaten the Saturn into submission

[sinful cliff]

Quick, request the Video CD Card for the SEGA Saturn core to distract srg again!

[tiny marsh]

I’m looking forward to the 3DO being his main development effort, so he can squeeze out a quick virtual boy core in his “free time”

[dire sinew]

yeah, there is a part of me that's excited to see what the next "free time" core is. SRG's on deck core

[tiny marsh]

X68K 🤞

[dire sinew]

god, if only

puu-san takes off their mask and it turns out it was srg the whole time

[visual sonnet]

VCD Support would be cool down the road for the few Saturn games that take advantage of it.

3DO had a VCD cad add-on too, but only released in Japan and I don't believe any games ever took advantage of it.

[tiny marsh]

Scooby doo style - at first we think they’re Robert, Sorg, Kit etc 😂

Turns out all the devs are just one person

[karmic basin]

If CD-i gets MPEG card support, there’s your VCD player.

IF it’s going to happen, that would be the console it would benefit the most.

[visual sonnet]

Was the CD-i mpeg playback any better than that which the 3DO got?

Not worried about VCD's but there are some CD-I games that really benefit from the VCD card like Lost Eden

[karmic basin]

I’ve never done any testing outside of simply watching movies, but I doubt there is much difference. It was all built to the same standards.

Only system that is an “upgrade” would be a Saturn, but that’s because you could use RGB output.

[sharp pendant]

Just so everyone is on the same page, there is definitely no space for the VCD card in the Saturn core on the DE-10 Nano, and that would be a very complex thing to implement if possible on a future board.

[sinful cliff]

ITT: No one knows what a joke is

[karmic basin]

Did… anyone say that?

[sharp pendant]

Yeah, 8 posts up...

[covert wagon]

Also who cares lol. I wouldn’t begrudge Srg if he left it off. It helps what…five games?

[ember seal]

1 good one

[karmic basin]

Ah. Sorry. My bad for not looking.

[sharp pendant]

I think they are all Japanese centric games as well

[dire sinew]

Ok, SRG has now updated all the cores. Surely, it’s time

[worthy hill]

Totally get that. Will be interesting to see if/how it gets handled on the CDi core. CDi pretty much needs the DVC for many games.

[sharp pendant]

Yeah, CDi definitely would get the biggest benefit. Some of the games that require/benefit from DVC actually just make use of the extra ram in the card, and Slamy has implemented that extra ram already, so some are working/benefitting already there.

Whether DVC is possible in the core is a "wait and see" at this point, so let's keep our fingers crossed.

[marble jetty]

I heard the 3DO is all FMV games, that true?

that it couldn't actually do 3D so the polygon graphics are just looping vids

[karmic basin]

Robby is the wacky sitcom neighbor we deserve.

[dire sinew]

They were going to release a real game system called the M2 but they canceled it and nothing came out. So yeah, only FMV

[marble jetty]

like the screw?

[marble jetty]

or the bmw car?

[dire sinew]

Yeah, I think that’s why they canceled it. Couldn’t get the rights for the name from Big Screw.

[marble jetty]

Oh wait, is it the developer?

the processor?

[dire sinew]

Apple sillycon

[marble jetty]

oh wait is it the bitcoin?

[dire sinew]

Get off the M2 Wikipedia page, Robby.

[marble jetty]

OHH I know, it was named after the U.S. Federal Reserve's estimate of the total money supply, which is called M2. Because 3DO has a sense of humor since they ran out of money.

Yeah sorry, too many people in #1046941029296779344 so the odds are stacked against me. This is my new troll-zone now.

[karmic basin]

If srg was the sadistic type, and saw this, he should hold back making this core public because of Robby.

[marble jetty]

I would legitimately be upset LOL, I really want to play 3DO

[karmic basin]

Too bad.

For too long you mocked. Now you face the oblivion of eternal speculation.

[marble jetty]

Where else am I going to play classics like.....

checks notes

Oyaji Hunter Mahjong

[karmic basin]

A-HEM

[marble jetty]

ok so I'm confused

like, if you cross that line it's tail time?

[karmic basin]

Tail time is that way

[verbal fjord]

you must initiate Tail Time

[karmic basin]

The spotlight is the glory of 3DO

Trip Hawkins has shown us the way

[marble jetty]

I was going to ask about that, ok so when it's tail time you get the spot light?

[verbal fjord]

but first you have to go through Gex and his horribly repetitive one-liners

[karmic basin]

This is why you don’t deserve the 3DO, Dobby

[dense remnant]

Gex could save you 15% or more on car insurance.

[karmic basin]

By the time you were cutting your teeth on the PlayStation, Crystal Dynamics was on their THIRD generation of 32bit development

[karmic basin]

Isn’t that your same design ethos at Gearbox?

Gotta keep Randy in magic tricks and funky shirts.

[marble jetty]

congrats @covert wagon !!!!

ok that's all I got

[dire sinew]

Any time I see Gex on bluesky, I know it's a tim tweet. don't even need to look at the name

[covert wagon]

This should be a photo you and a mention of propane

[marble jetty]

I am most excited to play:

• Battle Pinball
• Belzerion
• Blade Force
• CyberDillo
• Doctor Hauzer
• Escape from Monster Manor
• Gex
• Guardian War
• Immercenary - Combat in a Digital World
• Iron Angel of the Apocalypse - The Return
• Killing Time
• Life Stage, The - Virtual House
• Lucienne's Quest
• PO'ed
• Quarantine
• Road & Track Presents - The Need for Speed
• Road Rash
• SnowJob
• Star Control II
• Virtuoso

I've got a lot more games on my list but I wanted to cap it at 20 for now

All that stuff seems either super weird or super cool or both.

@covert wagon is this Japanese Ballblazer for the 3DO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKYDAHmTWE8

[dire sinew]

Someone needs to take all the other cores away from SRG. I hate to be extreme, but desperate times...

[covert wagon]

Your mother was a ballblazer

[marble jetty]

LOL but I'm serious, looks neat

[karmic basin]

The Gex wellness check I sent to the VGM is my crowning achievement.

[dire sinew]

@covert wagon I teed you up for a slam dunk momma joke here, man. Like the easiest layup of all time. I am disapoint

"Your mom has my naming right when Im giving her the big screw"
"Your mom knows all about the big screw"
"Big Screw is only for your mom"

The sky was the limit.

[covert wagon]

haha I am editing at the same time and only half looking

[karmic basin]

I’m going to publicly shame him, but @marble jetty should trade me his long box copy of PSX Gex for ones my loose JP2X controllers

[marble jetty]

oh yeah I forgot I have that

[karmic basin]

Mmmhmmm

[karmic basin]

A man of culture

I’m just kidding about the trade

[modern gate]

Especially Road Rash. But ESPECIALLY Gex

[real rapids]

The real tragedy here is that the quotation marks are backwards!

[dense remnant]

That was Trip's idea.
He's shaking up the grammar and punctuation industry by trying something new and innovative.

[distant grove]

Throw these away

You're never going to get the 3do experience on PS1, Robby. Just hang it up, man

[surreal adder]

https://tenor.com/view/j-alexander-antm-americas-next-top-model-clutches-pearls-clutch-neck-gif-21070072

[vapid swallow]

I have a 3do system in my room with the external flashcart solution and I'm dying to get this Mister core 😄

[visual sonnet]

Played thru Belzerion on RetroArch with A.I. translate. It's really good

[marble jetty]

Oh nice! It looked like a cool very early FPS.

[visual sonnet]

It's a neat hybrid

Part investigation, part exploration, part combat

Story was pretty good too

The A.I. translate only messed up a few times. Was able to mostly understand everything that was going on

[bold birch]

No Off World Interceptor Extreme?

[marble jetty]

Nah I don’t have that one

[visual sonnet]

You picked some good games. Be sure to try Icebreaker, and Gridders as well.

Doctor Hauzer is cool as long as you can accept it runs at like 5 fps 😂 I managed to enjoy it though

[marble jetty]

Yeah I have those games already on my MiSTer, I’m that excited lol

[visual sonnet]

Haha that's awesome man

I had the 3DO in 1994 and loved it then and love it today.

[marble jetty]

Oh shit, Gridders is that IQ PS1 looking game, yeah that one is rad

[visual sonnet]

I'm excited to see others now discover it and get to try it out

Yeah it's a neat little game

Captain Quasar is fun too

Oh and fuckin SPACE HULK!!!!

Hard as fucking balls but SO fucking good

[marble jetty]

I’m saying this as an outsider but like the 3DO really should be celebrated more considering all the cool games it has. I mean people know and hear about the Virtual Boy more and that has like five good games lol.

[dense remnant]

Whoa... five?
What are the other four?

[marble jetty]

Ok that was out of my ass, let me think about it

• Red Alarm
• VB Wario Land
• Jack Bros.
• Mario’s Tennis
• Galactic Pinball
• Teleeoboxer
• Mario Clash

[dense remnant]

I still remember when the Virtual Boy came out. I was 24. I checked out a display unit at Toys R Us back then, and it only took about 5 minutes of game play for the initial wonder of seeing something so different to wear off.
"Nope..."

[marble jetty]

Maaaaan I wanted a Virtual Boy and my dad asked the manager at GameStop about it and he said it was like staring into a price scanner and they both laughed and then laughed at me wanting one

Like wtf man I didn’t know lol

[dire sinew]

Who needs a 3DO https://bsky.app/profile/wario64.bsky.social/post/3li3qqun4rk2u

Wario64 (@wario64.bsky.social)

Gex is $1.49 on GOG buff.ly/4idr3Ep

Wario64 (@wario64.bsky.social)
Love at First Pixel game sale on GOG https://buff.ly/4gJ1lpc #ad

Bluesky · Feb 13, 2025, 10:35 PM

[surreal adder]

Robby

[verbal fjord]

A buck fifty is basically free!

A DOLLAR SEVENTY NINE CANADIAN?? THAT IS HIGHWAY ROBBERY, I SHANT PAY IT!

[sinful cliff]

A small price to pay for Tail Time™️

[verbal fjord]

narrator voice: he paid it.

[distant grove]

some... iron Angel and cyberdillo are uh....

Interesting to say the least

[marble jetty]

They suck? I don’t know lol. They just looked absolutely wild to me.

[distant grove]

Hot garbage

If you want first person camera. stuff,
Shockwave series
Killing time
PO'ed
Scramble cobra
Biofury
Wolf3D
Monster manor
Space Hulk
Slayer
Deathkeep
Probably one or two I'm forgetting

[marble jetty]

Yes, I want to play all the FPS, thank you!

[dire sinew]

Is deathkeep related to stonekeep?

[distant grove]

Space Hulk is strategy
Slayer/deathkeep is similar to old elder scrolls
And a few of those are spaceship shit but first person

[distant grove]

Deathkeep is dungeons and dragons

[visual sonnet]

Slayer is easily my favorite game on the 3DO

[dire sinew]

Ahh ok

[unkempt ferry]

I'm looking forward to hear Sherlock Holmes, By Robb Hubbard, it was the last thing he did for EA before he quit the USA, and moved home.

[dense remnant]

I completely forgot that Rob Hubbard composed the music for The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes...

He was undoubtedly the best aspect of that utterly mediocre title.

[dire sinew]

3DAYO?

[fossil sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/beetlejuice-day-o-gif-1360752756472679970

[real rapids]

So if the 3DO was the master of 3D, does that make the Neo Geo the 2DO?

[hollow whale]

Audio, video, 3DO, MariO

[dire sinew]

The look and sound of perfect™

oh wait, that was HDDVD

[covert wagon]

That’s 4D math

[dire sinew]

4DM

[paper totem]

3Dayo?

[fossil sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/pjjfanbase-gif-21393231

[fossil sorrel]

Man I can't wait for the first release of this core

Could happen anytime

Could happen...

...

NOW!

No wait

I mean...

NOW!!!

[real rapids]

It happened!!!
......is what I'd like to say.

[dire sinew]

Here, you can refresh this: https://github.com/srg320/3DO_hw

[real rapids]

Every 10 seconds until the first build arrives!

[marble jetty]

If you think about it at a cosmic scale, it’s already happened. This entire time is not even a fraction of a zeptosecond to the life of a star.

[real rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[paper totem]

I need this core

My 3do is trapped in storage 700 km away

[real rapids]

Still refreshing the page every 10 seconds!

[fallen stratus]

this isnt something we can use yet, right?

[dire sinew]

nah, not yet

[real rapids]

We can in our hearts. 🫂

[modern gate]

enhance!

butt-bone smashing terrain wow

[dire sinew]

video game ads just aren’t the same

[modern gate]

better remember this secret code guys

how this wasn't trick of the month for January 1995 is beyond me

[ashen palm]

Once you perform the ritual he might crawl out of the TV and raging demon you

[trail raven]

42 days

[visual sonnet]

Till?

[paper totem]

Forget 3do we need 2do

[real rapids]

But we already have the Neo Geo!

[marble sandal]

What about 1do?