Mister Pi Users

[faint dune]

yeah

in the actual menu core

so boot it up with the keyboard plugged in. hit esc. you should see the option to bind controller stuff in that menu

[manic fractal]

Right on, Ill give that a go. Thanks!

[faint dune]

if you're using the 2.4g version of the m30, you want to make sure it's in xinput

[tardy hornet]

this is good to know

[dense umbra]

Yeah I can see that causing issues tbh

We have already seen people plugging a SDram board into the Arduino header on the QMtech even though GPIO 1 is clearly labelled

And there will be people who will believe you can use dual SDram and a analogue IO board just because it has the header

[limber token]

Depends all on what will happen if you do so. If there is no damage, it does not matter at all.

[tardy hornet]

Defo the season of shipping... Stuffs been sitting at the port for a while lol (not just the pi but some other mister related stuff I ordered)

Should still get it this week though.. hopefully

[dense umbra]

The other reason the header is pointless with onboard SDram, it will save a few pennies on the BOM

It would be interesting to see what happens with two SDrams on the same GPIO lines though

[limber token]

I am also waiting for mister related stuff. But i expect it near end of the year.

[delicate hazel]

Hopefully the ram will be in stock next year, as I'd like to buy another ram module, maybe the mt32-pi and the Gameboy Link Snac adapter.

Then I think that's all for my Mister.

[limber token]

To leave the header on the pcb could increase the flexibility in the build process of the same pcb. Just decide to solder rams or not. This way you could produce 2 versions and got the option to produce for the demand.

[dense umbra]

You just leave the header out on the pick and place machine.

The built on SDram version will be a better seller anyway, QMtech has already found this out

[limber token]

Qmtech's board without the ram was not really compatible enough to sell better i believe.

[dense umbra]

It was fine and worked just as well as the SDram board

The earlier cyclone V board wasn't any good though

The pricing will be interesting on the BGA board compared to the current offerings

In theory it could be cheaper depending on the price of the BGA chips

[limber token]

I think it could be produced cheaper, cause no extra QA, no extra PCB, no extra packaging, etc. But if it would be sold for less, we will see.

Only trouble is, if there a defects. The repair is much more complicated and more expensive to fix, cause it is bga and the pcb is equipped then.

[dense umbra]

There will always be a defect percentage though. I can't see adding a couple of BGA SDram chips making much difference
Even BGA parts are salvageable

[limber token]

True, but there is no fixing with the hand soldering we saw on the other pcb's. The defective rate seems low, but who knows what was found before shipping.

TBH, taki is the only one with a DE10 clone that act's 98% as a de10. If he offer only the new one with solderd rams, it will sell anyway.

[tardy hornet]

For me it was just the mt32pi and grabbed the RTC because why not... Might as well throw it on while I assemble it lol

[delicate hazel]

Ooh, I didn't think of the RTC. Might get that too. But first I got server stuff to buy

[limber token]

I was thinking of the rtc too, but only to be able easier to do the small lcd screen. The pcb has the right solderpoints for it.

[tardy hornet]

Honestly it's kinda one of those situations where RTC is moot if you are always connected to wifi/ethernet

[limber token]

True, with internet you don't really need it.

[tardy hornet]

I thought about the screen too since like you mentioned it has the points right there for it lol

[limber token]

My problem was more where to mount the screen in the mms, i have no 3d printer yet.

[tardy hornet]

Yea kinda same here... I was going to have it sorta be on the side then realized I just want everything compact and contained as much... Don't want to turn it into the great octopus of wires

[limber token]

i would like to open my mms only one more time... 😂

[delicate hazel]

Oh and a Noctua fan, I forgot that. Il pick one of them up too. Then that's it I think. I got everything covered. I found out my 8Bitdo M30 via usb has pretty low input latency. So that's what il use for Mega drive etc stuff.

Just need to get an arcade stick

I was looking at the Mayflash F500 elite second hand. Sanwa parts, with a reported latency of less than 4ms I think?

8bitdo sell a wireless arcade stick but I think the reported latency was like 11ms

[faint dune]

it can work wired too I believe

[delicate hazel]

I wonder if the wired latency has been reported. Il have a gander

[limpid jolt]

https://rpubs.com/misteraddons/inputlatency

[faint dune]

still the bluetooth champ

[delicate hazel]

Thank you Tim, you was faster than me.

[limpid jolt]

you can rip out the encoder though and replace it with a Daemonbyte

[delicate hazel]

Yeah il probably stick with a second hand Mayflash F500 elite.

Then I think thats all the mister accessories id like to buy. (Maybe a GBA link port Snac if it ever exists)

[tardy hornet]

Always impressed with 2.4g considering the age and all lol

[delicate hazel]

Yeah, if I remember correctly, the 2.4ghz mode on the 8bitdo Ultimate 2c is quite low.

[tardy hornet]

Yup

Probably gonna use my pro 2 wired though

I do have snes classic and PS1 classic controllers though... PS1 ones are USB but the SNES ones are that Wiimote port crap lol

[delicate hazel]

Wired has 5ms, 2.4ghz has 5.61ms

[tardy hornet]

Pro 2 doesn't have 2.4

It's Bluetooth or wired sadly

Mmm that new brown colorway of the 2c is nice though

[delicate hazel]

It does

Oh wait

I'm sorry

8bitdo naming has me confused

I was on about the 2C

[tardy hornet]

Could match that blue taki case with the pro 2 👀

[delicate hazel]

Ooh translucent

[limber token]

I am ecited to test out the CRTLDock from Heber that will arrive soon. They proove about 0.7ms lag.

[dense umbra]

The QMtech works just as well and really has had less QC issues and was first to market

[dense umbra]

It's all Pi Pico based. The latency is the same as using Daemonbites which is around 0.74ms

Or GP2040 on a Pico

[limber token]

True, but the cool thing is that it has 4 ports and supports many types of input devices without to change the software or the cableing.

I have some smaller devices laying around here. They are fine for some single sticks, but often the software and the cable are used for only one kind of devices.

[dense umbra]

What Timville has done from a single Arduino is good with the 4daptor

You get three independent controllers off one USB.
The NES and SNES share lines though

[limber token]

Ok, don't know his project. But i have seen many forks for the Daemonbites.

[dense umbra]

I tend to only use old style joysticks for C64 and Amiga. It's odd trying to play them on a gamepad

[limber token]

I also concentrate on the 9 and 15 pin inputs first.

[dense umbra]

I want to try a Jaguar Daemonbite but the controllers are silly money these days sadly

[limber token]

True, some controllers are too expensive these days. And the age make them not even better.

[stray shore]

Just received a fresh Mister Pi in my mailbox.

I will take a look today.

One day earlier than expected.
I try to test it like a new user which don't have any info/technical skills, just a simple user.

A brand new 8bitDo M30 2.4G pad have the directions detected but no buttons, I will need to remap it with a Bluetooth (+dongle) keyboard.
Maybe something to check with the SD card image and the configuration for future end-users.

Build seems solid, effective and just what the (non technical) end user could use after a first power on.

[dire kindle]

Would this apple charger be ok for use with mister pi?

[cinder crane]

Doesn’t the MiSTer Pi come with a power adapter?

genuine question, I just always assumed it did

[stray shore]

None.

That one point that I need to raise at a moment.

No HDMI, no power adapter.
So it needs some preparation beforehand to some end-users.

Otherwise, the release is solid.

[dire kindle]

I guess the problem with supplying a power supply is it would need adapters for different region wall outlets.

[stray shore]

Yes.

[faint dune]

this should work, but I wouldn't plug in too many powered USB things

[cinder crane]

Is the .1v over an issue?

[faint dune]

nah, I think most 5v things are actually 5.1

maybe>?

[winged summit]

Isn’t the usbc port like autoadapting voltage, the problem being if you use a too high V charger more heat is dissipated? So 5.1v should be pretty Ok

[zinc spoke]

There's always variance

Hopefully it doesn't get too crazy, but 5.1v should be fine I think

[stray shore]

I wasn't also completely satisfied with the original setup on the SD card, some nitpicks and filters not done correctly (thanks once again @cinder crane for the presets).
And decided to update it, like bleeding-edge style from my tastes + adding the SN30/M30 and other 8bitDo controllers already preconfigured.

If someone from my family or friends want the full experience out-of-the-box, they will have it.

[faint dune]

TIL that if you hold down the user button, you can map controllers without needing a keyboard

[untold kayak]

Mister Pi setup video goes into the power supply requirements https://youtu.be/cbppuWmukw0?t=795 around 13:15

[zinc spoke]

I just got an old Anker USB-c power supply... Like, pre-PD

[stray shore]

I always forgot that, even after 5 years using and helping the project.

[timber fern]

No, the usbc port support usb PD but that requires the charger to also support negotiating power level.

(5.1v isn’t a PD voltage)

[zinc spoke]

Well, I think the point is that, as it has a voltage regulator in it to manage the 12v, that should be able to handle 5.1v as well... but again, I'm pretty sure that'd be within expected variance.

[patent knoll]

The MiSTer Pi has a buck converter on the board to turn everything down to 5v. That might get hot on higher voltages. Straight 5v will not create excess heat.

[zinc spoke]

That.

[timber fern]

Oh true, that would do the trick

[dense umbra]

The Raspberry pi 4 PSU is great for the price
High quality and 5.01v at 3 amps

[tardy hornet]

Iirc the process of including and going through certification process for the power supply would have been too costly vs the end user just buying one from a reputable source

At least I want to remember that being the reason...

[winged summit]

I have a box full of usb chargers for the last 20 years, I’m all in on not giving them for free , this is pure ewaste

[dense umbra]

QMtech supplies a PSU, it's just a standard 5V 2/3 amp but useable

[tardy hornet]

Been debating getting that with the switch on it

Though don't remember if it was the pi4 or pi5 one

It's whatever one includes the power switch adapter rather than built onto the cord

[dense umbra]

I use it on my DE10 build using a retrocastle IO board which has a power switch

Plenty of amps to power MT32pi etc which is good

[tardy hornet]

Right now just looking at using this for the time being since it's on hand and should be fine

[stray shore]

After some more tests & I found some cables + a power charger from my junk pile.
A new SD image, redone as I want to be too.

I could say the Mister PI is really interesting to use, I will show it on some next retro conventions that I need to attend during the end of the year.

You have a new semi-regular user with it, but I will keep my Dual RAM DE-10 Nano build as primary source for my everyday gameplay (+ tests).

[cinder crane]

Hey everyone, if you ❤️ (#1046941029296779344) and play your MiSTer Pi on a CRT we'd really appreciate you testing out @undone hatch's latest test build:

#test-builds message

[patent knoll]

test out 480i games in particular (DOA, VF2, etc.)

[blissful hill]

Is this Mister Pi 1.6 a board revision? What has changed, does anyone know?

[tardy hornet]

BGA ram

[faint dune]

BGA (soldered on) ram

[tardy hornet]

Think qmtech board

But without the messed up gpio headers

[limber token]

Qmtech use the normal sdram chip and solder them on the back. Mister pi seems to use BGA sdram chips an solder them on the top side.

BGA chips are a lot smaller

[cinder crane]

Y’all new to MiSTer know that you can change the name of how a core appears in your main menu, right?

You can do stuff like this:

[faint dune]

which font is that? Mario?

[cinder crane]

Yeah “Arcade_Super_Mario_Bros_3_(Nintendo)”

[untold kayak]

What did you add, BBC?

[compact pine]

Cool, how?

[cinder crane]

Nunya

[faint dune]

I think you can just rename the file

or use MGLs, Robby loves MGLs

[cinder crane]

Nope!

[faint dune]

if he could marry an MGL, he would

[cinder crane]

The awesome @simple perch put together this resource which I recommend using - https://github.com/ThreepwoodLeBrush/Names_MiSTer

Basically you just need a names.txt file at the root //media/fat. In there you define the name of the core (without the timestamp), add a “:”, then input what name you want it show up as. For example:

PSX: Sony PlayStation

This is helpful if you want to give your cores their full name or have them sorted by company. Since it’s quite a bit of work to gather all the core names, just use an existing names.txt from the link above and modify to your heart’s content. Remember that any new cores added will require you to manually add them to your names.txt file too. Or even easier, you can just grab an updated one from the link above or have it automatically update since it’s an option within the update_all script.

[crude kernel]

I have an apple crt (15khz c sync) that I can't get working with my Mister pi.
So far in the .ini I have:

• kept source as RGB
• enabled composite synce
• enabled sync on green

In a video I watched, they mentioned setting a sync on green dip switch to auto, but I can't seem to find that dip switch on the Mister pi

[faint dune]

Is this it?

[wary turret]

Oh sorry

[crude kernel]

I was curious if that was it. I have it set to 5v from the factory

[wary turret]

That’s the vga voltage pin

Pin voltage jumper rather

Weird thought someone was looking for that

But you’re asking about sog

That can be set in the ini now

So they might have left the sog switch off the mister pi

[crude kernel]

I was able to get this monitor working with a previous RBP setup. I might revert back to settings for HDMI just to make sure I have my Mister working correctly.
As of right now I have no image, not even a bad one!

Unless I'm missing something, I have RGB, composite sync on and SOG on

[wary turret]

Does sog matter? The Apple monitor doesn’t use separate sync?

Either csync on the hsync pin or separate v & h syncs I mean

[crude kernel]

No it uses c sync

https://crtdatabase.com/crts/apple/apple-a2m6014

[wary turret]

Yeah so sog shouldn’t matter

[faint dune]

oh sorry, I know nothing about VGA. I am a simple HDMI boi

[crude kernel]

Ok my bad! I did try it with SOG off as well and had no luck

[wary turret]

So you have a cable that adapts the mister pinout to that custom Apple one?

Mister pi uses what for analog output? VGA or Saturn DIN?

[crude kernel]

Yeah it's a db15 adapter with 10 dip switches. I've tried different variations with the dip switches as well

[wary turret]

dip switches on the monitor?

[crude kernel]

@wary turret no sorry, the adapter

[wary turret]

Oh it’s not a fixed layout you can configure the pin mapping on the cable?

[wary turret]

And you’ve got mister hsync going to pin3?

At least I think with composite sync enabled it combines onto hsync like most things

[crude kernel]

I believe so, hard to know for sure. But yes, composite sync is enabled

This shoes the different modes, but if the Mister is taking care of this I would image it would work with everything set to off

But I have tried different variations

[wary turret]

What’s a/on versus b/on?

In the table

naively reading that the NTSC line makes me think you want 123 & 7 ON

But not sure what csync1 vs 2 is

[crude kernel]

It's just different methods, both for c sync. They describe it as "for best results"

[wary turret]

Or a/on vs b/on

Yeah dunno what this thing does. It should be a simple pin mapping, not sure why it has these diff switches for diff resolutions and such

[crude kernel]

I'll play around with it some more. I haven't tried it on my other crt's

[dense umbra]

Only the Arduino headers were moved The GPIO is the same pinout

[tardy hornet]

Ah

[digital estuary]

Has anyone done a Mister Pi with an Atlantis ITX mounting board yet? POST PICS!
Is it possible? I'm sure it is, but obvious changes like power plugs would need to be changed.

[digital estuary]

and instead of using the rear power input, i would wire in a plug on the power header

[shrewd dust]

@digital estuary yeah my MiSTer Pi is mounted on an Atlantis board. And yes, I've connected power to the DC pins on the MiSTer Pi

I don't have photos atm of the inside but I can take some photos later

[upbeat gyro]

Just gotta print some red buttons and the nes edition is done lol

[cinder crane]

That looks awesome! The Red Buttons really tie it together.

I love two tone cases

[untold kayak]

NES themes always look good, as well as SNES

[crude kernel]

I'm going to search for that case. I haven't printed anything in a while and the case I printed is 6 pieces.
I can't get it to print decent enough to line up the grooved sides.
That looks great, it didn't need supports anywhere did it?

@upbeat gyro

[upbeat gyro]

I used supports on the vga port

I also didn’t print the bottom I had already bought that fron Todd

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1792523738/

[zinc spoke]

Hey... so, I'm having a heck of a time with the PCXT core (wanna hear that Tandy sound on Space Quest I) - I can't get it to get past the splash screen, and I saw a post where someone else was having some similar issues and reported having a MiSTer Pi... so if one of you has the patience to grab the appropriate roms and disk image to see if this is an overall issue or if I'm just bonkers or something.... That'd be appreciated

[faint dune]

Is there a recent unstable for that?

No, that's PC88 I am thinking of

[zinc spoke]

I haven't had the time & energy to go delving into unstable cores yet. 😛

[civic badge]

Same. Not sure I ever got mine setup. Just quickly gave up and moved on to the next core. Definitely interested if you figure it out.

[zinc spoke]

Did you ever get the bios files downloaded and set up?

[civic badge]

Not yet. This page on the MiSTer FPGA Forums has a lot of good info though: https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=5368&sid=e842aeef0991a622ff3f6b4d7ec42e21&start=30

[zinc spoke]

I've tried so many bioses and a few different images without getting ANYTHING to happen

Like, if I was getting into the RAM check and something tripped, I'd at least have a clue.

I'm guessing there are some logs to dig up somewhere, I just haven't gotten that far down the rabbit hole yet.

[cursive crypt]

I did, didn't work on my Mister Pi but exact same SD card in my. Misteraddons worked straight away

[zinc spoke]

Well, now THAT is interesting.

[faint dune]

its probably like the jaguar core

super sensitive to timings

[delicate hazel]

Uh oh. Not again

[civic badge]

I downloaded the pack at the bottom of the thread and followed the directions and it seems to work fine for me.

[faint dune]

is the core even in active development?

[zinc spoke]

So does that mean you'd have this kind of variation from board to board?

[faint dune]

yeah. I have 3 dual ram misters. I have to use 3 different jaguar cores to get AVP to load on them.

[civic badge]

Try the bios’ in the link above

[zinc spoke]

That is bonkers. That feels like that's a bug with the core

[faint dune]

it is

the jaguar core is still very much in development

I have no idea if the PCXT core is still in development

[zinc spoke]

Which one, now?

[civic badge]

This one

[zinc spoke]

Yeah, I know which thread, I mean which link

[civic badge]

The SEPTandy post

[zinc spoke]

Are you talking about the link to the spark2k06 github? Because I found that github first. 😛

[cursive crypt]

This one?

[zinc spoke]

I meant the rom at the bottom of that post. You're saying the mega-pack itself has a rom in it?

Oh, I guess that's just credits for stuff they put in the pack

[civic badge]

If you download that file it has several bios’ that you have to add

Anyway I followed the directions in that post and it seems to work great

[cursive crypt]

I'll have to try it in a bit, hope it works that'd be an easy fix

[civic badge]

Let me know how it goes

[zinc spoke]

Hmm. That 2nd HDD thing is interesting.

But it didn't change anything

Sadly

I literally never get past the splash screen

I feel like something is crashing before it even gets to the bios file

AO486 core works fine, I guess I can play DOS games, I was just hoping to hear the tandy sound for the earlier games that don't have MT-32 support

[faint dune]

looks perfect

[cursive crypt]

Reminds me of the really old fruit salad bios screen

[zinc spoke]

I may just try the Amiga core, might work fine there with good sound. Not sure

[cursive crypt]

That works fine here

[civic badge]

Can you post your settings screens?

[zinc spoke]

Could. Not gonna, though. 😛 Have moved on.

The instability of the core between different machines is enough to make me believe it's not worth the effort.

I'm just gonna see if the Amiga version does what I want it to.

[civic badge]

In that MiSTer FPGA thread above they talk about instability caused by certain settings (EMS or UMS?) causing memory to be written into areas of the Tandy BIOS. If you do want to reattempt later, might be worth checking out.

that could certainly cause a crash like you posted above

[zinc spoke]

I didn't post the crash. 😛 I literally have never seen anything but the splash screen

[civic badge]

did you download the pack and copy over the specific bios files they provide?

[zinc spoke]

Yes

Though I suspect they're the same files I already had

Because they referenced the link I got them from in the credits

[civic badge]

probably worth just copying them over to make sure. or you can check the CRC

then you have to adjust the settings per the post:

Instructions:

Copy files from the PCXT folder to the games/PCXT folder on the MiSTer

PCXT Core Settings Press WIN + F12 after selecting the PC/XT Core

PCXT
====
IDE0-0 - tandy.vhd
IDE0-1 - tandy1k.vhd
CPU Speed - As required, noting the need to use 4.77Mhz in some instances.

System & BIOS
=============
Model - Tandy
Tandy BIOS - tandy.rom
EC00 BIOS - ide_xtl.rom

Reset & apply settings from the PCXT Page

[zinc spoke]

Like I said, I did copy them over.

I just suspect they were the same thing I already had. I've tried multiple different combinations of settings based on various posts I've seen... never get past the splash screen

Have tried booting from floppy, using various hard drive images, used the 8088 rom without the extended part to see if that would help....

Nothing changes.

[limber token]

In some stages of a new core it seems better to wait a bit. 😁

[zinc spoke]

Definitely not a new core

I think development on it may have stagnated, though.

Looks like no updates in over a year.

Was added August of 2022, then no updates after September 2023.

[crude kernel]

I figured out my sync issue. I'm absolutely loving this thing. Anybody venture into tapto yet?

[faint dune]

https://tenor.com/uDda.gif

[cinder crane]

TapTo is now called Zaparoo and @cobalt socket + @fast lagoon are the badasses behind it.

Here’s the site to get started: https://zaparoo.org

Here is Wizzo’s store where you can get an NFC Reader - https://shop.wizzo.dev/products/zaparoo-zap-pad

[cinder crane]

So people are aware, @spiral sierra was very kind and shared his latest CDi core update - #1103404843512631357 message

[zinc spoke]

I'm just realizing.... the case I printed out for my MiSTer Pi has a slot in it above the HDMI port... is that just for ventilation, @untold kayak ?

[sharp pulsar]

I may have gone a bit nuts with it

[untold kayak]

Yep, once you assemble the case the fit is pretty tight around the perimeter and the only exit points would be around the memory or analog out adapter board. I put that there as an additional exit point.

I intentionally kept air output a bit constrained. The device doesn't really require active cooling, and keeping it positive pressure prevents it from sucking dust in the case joints. 👍

I don't have tapto, but based on what I see floating around I bet you could make a new bottom piece for the case specifically for that use case. The Printables/Thingiverse posts for the case have the Fusion 360 files if you'd like to try your hand at it.

[cinder crane]

Using Switch cases was pretty smart and looks real slick

[zinc spoke]

I'm not worried about the tapto thing, I was just gonna use a floppy drive looking piece. Maybe one day. 😛

[sharp pulsar]

Perfect size

[wary turret]

Little bit

I made category dividers in paint.net, just need my containers and I’ll be done with project “even a stupid baby can do it” game swapping

[crude kernel]

@wary turret I like it. My plan is to utilize them in a arcade cabinet. I think it's a pretty decent way to get around the lack of a frontend

A fine tuned front end is awesome but I'm honestly not a huge fan of having 5000 games to scroll through. In reality, there is maybe 50 that would get played regularly

[wary turret]

Yeah I made a spreadsheet of all the mister arcade cores and then ranked them all and made TapTo /zaparoo for anything higher than an 8. (With some exceptions for games I thought others might like even if I didn’t)

So even that pile is “curated”

There are a lot of arcade cores

That’s the horizontal games, I have tate cards too but it’s less, think it was under 60

[crude kernel]

Is there a way to send vertical games to one tv that may be fed with direct video and send horizontal to another? Or are they simply mirrored?

[wary turret]

So two CRTs one tate one not?

One off analog IO the other off direct video + dac?

Yes they would be mirrored but that’s what you’d want for the tate crt no?

[crude kernel]

Yeah, I guess it would be nice to automatically set the game to flip with the card but I'm sure that info can just be saved on a per game basis. So no settings would need to be changed within the NFC card

[wary turret]

Still not following, the game will be tate on the CRT that’s been physically rotated, so no setting needed? I could see if the second display was an LCD and you needed it flipped maybe?

[faint imp]

That’s how my kids choose and play their games on MiSTer 🥳

[spiral cloud]

I got my mister-pi and started it up, but I don't get any audio over HDMI. Am I missing something obvious?

I am just running the sdcard it came with, and ran the downloader script

nevermind... All I did was open the OSD and it started working

[faint dune]

there is an option in the osd to change the volume. it may have gotten stuck. but if it happens again, check in there to make sure you don't have the volume turned all the way down

[spiral cloud]

thanks jesus

[faint dune]

https://tenor.com/bQAXn.gif

[cloud estuary]

Off to an annoying start with my MisterPi, The case doesn't allow for decent VGA cables to actually sit flush in the plug

ill have to take it apart and hit the case with a dremel sometime

[faint dune]

interesting. can you send a pic?

[dire merlin]

oh, the protrusion just above it?

yeah, I can see that

[faint dune]

ahh the lip of the case

[faint dune]

oof yeah

that's annoying

[cloud estuary]

Comparison shot. It’s a difference of like .5mm

And I do have other VGAs that do fit, but of course not the heavy duty one that’s wired into the extron to the 36” and would require crawling behind to change

[faint dune]

@strong falcon maybe in future revisions of the case, you can dremel out a little extra space around the VGA port for higher quality VGA cables. #1287682359658807317 message

[winged fable]

Hey yall, sorry if this has been answered already but I personally couldn’t find a direct answer through reddit or searching on the discord. I have a batch 3 mister pi turbo pack on the way and im trying to figure out if a level shifter is needed for an original snes controller since I decided on going down the snac route. I’ve noticed that batch 2 came with a level shifter and a snes adapter, and from what I’ve seen so far it seems like the consensus is that all adapters (outside of n64 and psx) require a level shifter. I’ve also seen some comments saying that it’s not needed if it’s included in the adapter. Could someone help give me confirmation wether or not that a level shifter is needed (or heavily preferred) for snac on mister pi, and if there are any readily available adapters that include the level shifter inside the adapter outside of the snax ecosystem? Thank you!!

[faint dune]

The mister pi snac adapter doesn't have the level shifter built in, so you do need it

[winged fable]

The mister pi snac adapter doesn’t come with batch 3 so should I be fine with any level shifter that I purchase?

[faint dune]

yep, should work with any snac adapter+level shifter.

[winged fable]

Dope I appreciate your advice!

[faint imp]

Batch 4 wen

[winged summit]

Spare boards and ram wen

Wait, those depend of batches too. I’m too sleepy rn 😂

[winged summit]

anyone knows if there is any problem warranty wise if I buy a Mister Pi from someone?

[cinder crane]

https://retroremake.co/policies/refund-policy

[winged summit]

it doesn't says anything about it? I suppose there is no problem if the original buyer gimme a copy of the invoice of their purchase in retroremake , but...

[cinder crane]

I’d email them then, they’d know their warranty best - https://retroremake.co/policies/contact-information

@winged summit Sorry, I know that’s not super helpful but I didn’t want you to be given incorrect information and be in a tough spot if something bad happens with a used MiSTer Pi.

[winged summit]

I appreciate it ☺️

[faint imp]

In this case la garantia soy yo I would think

[winged summit]

Why? Are you selling me your Mister Pi? 😂

[cinder crane]

I am a MiSTer and I am selling my Pi, it’s from the third release

[sharp pulsar]

Batch B?

[cinder crane]

The name is working. Every time I search for “Raspberry Pi” on Etsy MiSTer Pi stuff shows up.

[delicate hazel]

In one way it's quite an interesting naming tactic.

[civic badge]

Anyone have any luck with the new reworked Jaguar cores???

I can get the Jaguar logo to appear and the box to spin, but so far no games load

[faint dune]

How many cores have you tried?

[civic badge]

I downloaded the zip and have been going down the list. Im also not certain if i have the right bios. Im running a Mister Pi with dual ram

If anyone has a working setup on MiSTer Pi can you tell me what bios version you have? Hash, file name, source, or whatever to help id it

Figured it out!!! It does not support roms in “.rom” format. Only “.j64” format works.

Im using the 11-18 core and the world bios

[faint dune]

Yeah, the cores need to be unzipped

Oh, they can’t be .7z, but I thought they could be zipped

Weird

[civic badge]

For me when I try to load a rom in “.rom” format, it shows the bios, changes video modes, and then hangs at a black screen. “.j64” works fine

[faint dune]

Weird

[zinc spoke]

Maybe it's a question of how compressed they are. If it has to work too hard to read the file it might cause issues.

[civic badge]

Whoa…even Alien VS Predator works

Jaguar_Rework_v8 is the one that works best for me

[civic badge]

Please disregard what I said about zip files. It would not load roms in “.rom” format but “.j64” seems to work file. Sorry for the confusion

[dense umbra]

eBay always makes me laugh

[cinder crane]

Dumb question but is it the price?

[dense umbra]

Well it is taking the Mickey a touch

[cinder crane]

I’m with ya but I can imagine someone who has no clue about that stuff seeing that listing and buying it because it includes everything and then some.

[dense umbra]

Yeah that is what sellers prey on
Same with preloaded MiSTer SDcards on there

[neon summit]

they must prefer their raspberry pi

[oblique drum]

At least they don't have to wait till next year.

[sharp pulsar]

The raspberry pi’s cromulence is unparalleled

[cinder crane]

I am still not a fan of the name but I think it’s going to do way more good than harm.

And by “harm” I mean confuse people, nothing big.

But I myself am seeing it seep more and more when looking up “Pi” because of the name and that’s building up interest.

[glacial monolith]

That's not the Threepwood you were looking for 😉

[zinc spoke]

Capitalism: If you can find a buyer, you're not overpricing.

[cinder crane]

Oops! Sorry about that.

[faint imp]

Scalpers: gotta love them, right?

My batch 2 MiSTer Pi has just arrived!

Looking forward to batch 4

Missed the batch 3 bandwagon 😔

[oblique drum]

Waiting for batch 3 pis is no joke either. 😟

[high umbra]

Gdconnell built this himself

That's the 3rd ugliest 8bitdo controller.

[crude kernel]

Trying to resist buying more things for the Mister for right now, but dang I really want a set of 8bitdo sn30 pro controllers.
I didn't know they launched a new version with hall effect sticks

I absolutely love my older sn30 pro. Haven't had an issue with a single core, such a breath of fresh air. I had nothing but issues getting controllers to work correctly with RGB-PI

[high umbra]

Never had an rgp pi, but had controller mapping issues with every version of retro arch.

[cinder crane]

Yeah, the community has been amazing at keeping this updated so every controller “just works” - https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/Gamecontrollerdb_MiSTer

[dusky pewter]

Retroarch itself is a controller mapping nightmare

[high umbra]

The ease of controller mapping on mister is worth the switch

[neon summit]

retroarch is awful lol

[cinder crane]

More power to people who love retroarch so I consider this a me problem but it’s a nightmare to use

[crude kernel]

I'm pretty sure RGB-pi was ran off retroarch. I only liked it because it allowed me to easily emulate on my crt's lol

I'm about to try my mad catz ultimate fight stick. I replaced the board with a Brook zero so there shouldn't be any issues

[timber fern]

As somebody who used it for years and wrote their own private custom frontend for it… yeah it’s a nightmare to work with. It’s decent once you have settings dialed in and just use a frontend to launch games via it, but at that point you have to do so much fiddling it’s actually usually better to grab individual emulators.

Only real upside is runahead, which is only an upside in the context of emulating on a pc.

[cinder crane]

You made me feel a little better so thank you. Very cool you wrote your own custom front end! I don’t have the technical know how to do it but that sounds like a fun project.

[timber fern]

It was alright, mostly decoupled from it (it handled scanning and scraping rom info, ran a program that I wrote that would intercept a common controller combo and kill the subprocess when pressed so I could use dolphin and pcsx2 with the same kill combo) and wasn’t as integrated as RAs real front ends

[patent knoll]

I used and installed RA for years on multiple devices so I got pretty fast at setting it up, but it made me really appreciate the MiSTer not having to worry about the little lag reducing, bios setting, scaling, and filtering settings.

[crude kernel]

Home button opens up the Mister menu so I'd say it pretty much works out of the box!

[cinder crane]

Awesome!

[cloud estuary]

Oh no not SVC chaos

[slow skiff]

Waiting for Mister Pi to arrive, ordered on Black Friday, shouldn’t have saved a few bucks with 4PX… I’ll be lucky if I get it early Jan bwahaha

I’m just here to dry gawk at all the wonderful things I’ll be messing with

[cloud estuary]

My 4px one came 2-3 days ago

[slow skiff]

Nice... mine has been stuck at "distribution" somewhere in China I think, for a week now haha

[vital mica]

Mine was there for a whole and once it cleared customs seemed to near beam here

As someone that had a master system I never thought I would see it's packaging aesthetics come back lol

[slow skiff]

mmmm... grids

https://tenor.com/view/homer-homer-simpson-simpsons-the-simpsons-drooling-gif-16372115206532389459

Once it ships, it'll be relatively fast right? My question is... anyone's opinion on BT+Wifi combo USB dongle, or separate?

Once it ships I'm just gonna grab one (or 2, if separated) from Amazon so I am ready to setup

My goal is to use the Dual Sense before I mess with SNAC and MT32-Pi

[faint imp]

These (with the antenna) have been working wonderfully here (thanks to @oblique drum For suggesting these): I just found this on AliExpress: $3.54 | 600Mbps USB Bluetooth 5.0 Wifi Adapter Dual Band 2.4G 5G Wi-Fi Dongle Antenna USB Ethernet Network Card Receiver for PC
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0dzcdd

[slow skiff]

Combo?

[faint imp]

Yes

Super cheap and extremely reliable

They can take 4 controllers simultaneously just fine

[slow skiff]

How was aliexpress’s shipping? I haven’t messed with them for a while now

Noice

[faint imp]

No issues and super fast

[slow skiff]

Good to know thanks… I was looking at the capped ones, antenna sounds like a better option

[faint imp]

Having bad experiences with the ones without antennas lately: dropped connections, not being able to handle 2+ controllers, etc

Antennas FTW

Make sure you enable usb fast polling with them

The input lag improvement is very perceivable, specially on Super Mario World

[slow skiff]

Mmhmm, I would prefer antennas, don’t know why it escaped my mind as an option… probably because every Mister shops offered just the capped nubs

[slow skiff]

Question, if I get the mt32-Pi mister hat, and use the user port… what happens to the normal sound like soundblaster sounds… say if I’m using SCUMMVM?

And I can’t use SNAC with MT32-Pi because there’s only one user port right?

Again I haven’t received my Mister Pi yet, but I’m thinking of things I am starting to think of ordering so I don’t wait forever for them

These are probably generic Mister questions but I figured since I’m on Mister Pi variant, I might as well ask here

[cinder crane]

MT32-pi is optional so if you set your game to use it, it will. Otherwise it’ll be the normal sound.

You can just leave it plugged in.

Make sure the cable to your use your mt32-pi is super short

[slow skiff]

What I mean is, it'll just MIX the normal sound into it?

[cinder crane]

Whatever the game does it will do.

so however it originally performed

But I think I’ve only played games that replaced the music with mt-32 pi tracks

[slow skiff]

MT32, back in the REAL HARDWARE DOS days, you want to do a passthrough so that it would pump the music from the Roland BOX into the IN of the Soundblaster, and then Soundblaster will mix the digital sounds (voices etc) into the incoming Midi Music

[slow skiff]

That's what it should do, but I don't really know anything, so I'm assuming the Mister stack will just mix the General Midi music into the voices etc... "automagically" haha

[cinder crane]

Yeah, the specifics I do not know but Monkey Island has an MT32 talkie version where it all works.

All mixed together

[slow skiff]

Perfect, just what I need to know

[wary turret]

Yeah it gets mixed back. You can even hook up the real deal if you want to a mister

https://youtu.be/qUz5-hW1n0U?si=ONvLHtpJVbUQlk92

[slow skiff]

neato, it looks like everywhere fast around me is selling Pi5, but the Github said only up to 4... do you know if 5 will work?

[wary turret]

I do not, it’s been quite a while since I messed with it. I want to say mine is a Pi3

[cinder crane]

The Pi Zero 2s also work

[slow skiff]

saves some space and money too, looks like

[rotund parrot]

Finally got my dual ram kit and am putting it together but had questions. 1) do both ram sticks face "outward"? 2) do I need to adjust any jumpers or other elements on Mister pi mainboard to enable 2nd ram module?

(I don't use vga-out in one room so I'm opting for dual ram even if it has diminishing returns)

[wary turret]

1. Yes 2. No

[rotund parrot]

Sweet, thank you

[wary turret]

You have the remove the mezzanine of course

[slow skiff]

Batch 2 only comes with one RAM module right? do I NEED a second module?

[wary turret]

So the ram has somewhere to be

[wary turret]

No

Only if your LOVE Jaguar like a sicko

Or want 3 games to run slightly better on Saturn

[cinder crane]

lol

[slow skiff]

I mean, which ones? heeheh...
I do have a saturn in a cardboard box downstairs lol

[cinder crane]

He’s not being sarcastic either

Like that’s really it

Also those three games run just as well by flipping an option in the single ram Saturn core

[cinder crane]

Virtua Fighter 2, Dead or Alive, Fighters Megamix

Probably Fighting Vipers and Last Bronx too but I don’t recall those games having slowdown issues

[slow skiff]

Just SLIGHTLY better huh... but DoA is IMPORTANT for me haha... jiggle physics notwithstanding

I guess I don't need to mess with 2nd RAM... "for now"...

[cloud estuary]

i hadn't been keeping close tabs on saturn, thats a bummer its those 3 i kinda care bout those lol

[cinder crane]

There’s a turbo option on the single core that really improves it

[slow skiff]

Same, super iconic games

[cinder crane]

The dual ram doesn’t run it perfectly either

[slow skiff]

Nice... I have a feeling the questions will just MOUNT once I have the damned kit in head... damn you 4px

[cinder crane]

But you wouldn’t be able to tell the perf differences with the single ram running with the turbo option or dual ram.

[cloud estuary]

good to know

I dont care about them -like that like that- so I can live with it

[slow skiff]

Something like 0.5% or less performance increase or something like that? lol

[cinder crane]

No clue

Only reason I noticed I had the single ran build today when testing was because of the slowdown: I turned the turbo option on and it ran similarly to the dual ram.

[slow skiff]

That comment, was more sarcastic, sorry

[cinder crane]

Oh no problem haha

[slow skiff]

anyone remember what size micro-sd came with Batch 2?

nvm 64gb, found

It's hilarious that I'm trying to find the SMALLEST micro SD for the MT32-pi and the BIGGEST for Mister Pi at the same time

and this pi isn't that pi

bwahaha

[wary turret]

Worst name

I get why or the theories why that it will show up in more searches but its still dumb

[faint dune]

probably best to stick with what's supported. if something goes wrong, and you're using a 5, we won't know if it's a cofiguration problem or a pi5 problem. I have a pi3a in mine and it's awesome

[slow skiff]

Was that the big reason?

[wary turret]

Not officially

[faint dune]

it's a bad name.

[slow skiff]

Thinking of going with Zero 2 WH (the H is apparently just pre-welded headers, which saves me a bit of time breaking out the soldering iron and try to weld with shaky hands)

[slow skiff]

Big THEORY then ehehe...

[wary turret]

I don’t think Taki has ever said anything other than it’s Pi like because they do the same things (which is objectively wrong but hey)

[faint dune]

EVERYTHING IS COMPUTERS

[slow skiff]

They do the same... thing?

[cinder crane]

I am honestly seeing it pop up on Etsy whenever I search for raspberry pi

[wary turret]

So yeah more theory here that it’s a choice to get hits because the alternative is a smart person like Taki actually thinking it’s a good name 😉

[slow skiff]

Big question... hmm is 1TB micro-sd worth it if I will eventially just load roms off the nas... oy...

lol

[faint dune]

yup. if you're in the UK, you may want to consider just grabbing the mt32pi lite from ultimatemister.com. it's a good setup

[cinder crane]

Really depends. Do you want to have full sets or do you not want to compress your games?

[slow skiff]

Canada, so UK isn't a bad option, somehow better than US a lot of times for some reasons

[cinder crane]

I have a 512GB sd card and I have like every game I could ever want and then some on there with 18GB of space left thanks to CHD compression

[slow skiff]

Right, so might as well just yeet everything onto the NAS

[faint dune]

It's nice because it just snaps right onto the side https://ultimatemister.com/product/mt32-pi-lite-for-mister/

[wary turret]

Oh yeah that one came long later but seems cooler overall

[slow skiff]

no moving graphics though lol... hmm that price is nice.

[wary turret]

You don’t need to see the little oled

[faint dune]

yeah

[cinder crane]

I do!

[wary turret]

Ha as soon as I said it

It’s cool at first

[cinder crane]

The little bars go up and down, wheeee

[wary turret]

You can turn on the osd thing

[faint dune]

you can put that on the screen too though

damnit

[cinder crane]

that’s for plebs

[slow skiff]

You don't stare at boombox's EQs? them needles

[slow skiff]

Bliss

[cinder crane]

lol don’t agree with me, I’m an idiot

[faint dune]

but we keep him around because he has a good heart

[wary turret]

(in his freezer, he says it’s a cows heart but it’s too small)

[slow skiff]

I was born in the late 70s... I am triggered by moving sound "visualizations" bwahaha

[wary turret]

Oh yeah me too on both counts just not a deal breaker IMO for someone buying in today

[slow skiff]

https://ultimatemister.com/product/mt32-pi-mini-black/
THis looks nice

[wary turret]

You can also make them very easily, it’s just a handful of components

[slow skiff]

It's just basically an old(er) man buying shit he couldn't afford back when he was young... I swear retro gaming is my generations' mid-life crisis Sports Cars or Motorcycles lol

[slow skiff]

Point is, I end up having to order them too, and the cost comes out to about the same...

[wary turret]

Yeah fair back when I made mine no one was selling them yet

[slow skiff]

Really feels like the perfect time to dive into Mister... especially with PSX and N64 cores pretty much completed

[wary turret]

We say that every year

It just keeps delivering

[slow skiff]

There's NO way they will be able to fit much more into it though... I mean... DC is what, 30% more than the logics of the chipset?

[wary turret]

There will be a lot more arcades

Probably some more old computers

[slow skiff]

True, people are still reversing boards

[wary turret]

CD-i is coming along heh

[slow skiff]

What's the difference between Daemon USB and SNAC? They both use the user port?

[wary turret]

No

[slow skiff]

So just SNAC

[wary turret]

Daemonbytes are just low latency usb encoders

There are bunch of other ones that are similar

[slow skiff]

So they go to the normal IO board USBs on the mister

[wary turret]

The advantage of SNAC over those is minimal

Really you want SNAC for weird stuff

Lightguns, multi-taps, train controllers

Whatever thing doesn’t have an easy path to usb encoding

[slow skiff]

oh I see, MORE lower level access

[wary turret]

Yeah exactly

But Reflex Adapt, daemonbytes and other fast usb encoders are way better just normal original controllers

Because you can still control the menu and whatnot

And it’s basically imperceptible latency added

[slow skiff]

Not really THAT much difference in latency, since no matter what we do, we are still looking at 16.6 miliseconds of "latency buffer" IF we are playing on 60fps

makes sense

[wary turret]

I use CRTs there’s no latency at the top of the screen 😜

I also use wireless controllers usually so I’m not a latency snob

[slow skiff]

I mean, you're within 1 frame in most scenarios... 33ms for 30fps or 16.6ms for 60fps... hah

[wary turret]

A latency queen like robby

[slow skiff]

We can all go back to 1990s and enjoy things on original EVERYTHING and ZERO NOTHING... let me just fire up my Delorean

[wary turret]

Yeah there’s a good spreadsheet of controller latency maintained by misteraddons so you can at least be informed when you choose the crap controller 😉

[wary turret]

Yeah I still have a bunch of stuff hooked up to my tubes that I almost never use if I want the original experience. Mister is just too convenient and accurate to bother

[slow skiff]

Oh I'm just going with my Dual Sense for now, I'll have to do an inventory of my storage boxes when I have the time (or more realistically, the energy to sort through 5 boxes of hardware)

[slow skiff]

totally

[slow skiff]

It just becomes a chore to get original hardware moving along... plus things like lasers dying... disc rot, blown caps, oxidized contacts etc etc...
That new Bubble Memory or something cores are like... nearly impossible to maintain in original hardware.

[crude kernel]

The .ini change on the fly is pretty slick. The JVC, apple and commodore monitors now can easily be hot swapped. Pretty nice feature so I don't need to keep removing the SD card or fiddle with FTP

If anybody is looking for a great flight stick, pick one of these up. If you get the Xbox variant it might work without needing to change the PCB. They aren't terribly expensive used and they have swanna buttons

[oblique drum]

Glad to see this dongle got so popular. 😅 at least I'm not the only one who had issues with the small nubs.

[rotund parrot]

Hmm running memtest on my new dual ram Mister pi build and run into this flickering black screen:

Saturn dual ram rbf seems to work, at least, but when I try to load Jaguar dual ram core, the Mister seizes up and wireless controller disconnects

Any idea what might be happening?

[rotund parrot]

Or am I pressing the wrong button once I load memtest? I see the OSD flicker on if I press reset on the mister

okay I think I figured out my issue - directvideo is on for the memory card I am using. I switched to a diff memory card and ran memtest just fine. still unsure what's going on with jaguar core, though, but that can wait for another day

[dense umbra]

Yeah you could buy the hat for that design on Etsy and the case is on Printables designed by @gritty herald

It's in stock not now too

https://www.tindie.com/products/taviens/mt32pi-hat-for-zero-2w-model-raspberry-pi/

[slow skiff]

The crazy thing is, once I did all the prints myself, and the shipping for the Zero 2 WH, and the parts for the hat... it would've been more than that cost, so Imma just gonna get it off them

[slow skiff]

Watch as the MT32-pi gets here before my Mister Pi kit bwahaha

[dense umbra]

I made one a while ago

[slow skiff]

Looks real sweet

[dense umbra]

Doesn't get much use though .... Hahah

[slow skiff]

GOTTA have that moving LED, the MT32-Pi Lite just doesn't feel RIGHT

[slow skiff]

Yeah, I'm probably going to play some old DOS games and SCUMMVM stuff... they never remastered Sam and Max Hit The Road, and I never had the Roland GM deck

[dense umbra]

I had a lite and a full-size hat over the years. This zero 2 design is my favourite of them all

[slow skiff]

Yeah, and I think you can actually use it on PC as well... just another thing I LUSTED after when I was a kid... I even got a Gravis Ultrasound and messed around, but it was never quite the same as MT32's iconic soundfonts

[slow skiff]

Can't wait to replay this with son on the big tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBott6aV3fs

And BETTER than when I played it as a kid, because MT32

[dense umbra]

Yeah all the Lucasfilm games are great

There is support in Amiga, ST and Sharp X68000 cores too

[slow skiff]

I saw, yeah, I mean, always good to just load up DOS or Win3.1 and play some tracks in midi too

[dense umbra]

The 0mhz collection makes DOS gaming very easy

[slow skiff]

Adding to the list I'm going to need to experiment with when I finally get my Mister Pi kit lol... probably with loads of questions coming in whenever I do

[gritty herald]

If anyone is interested, I’m releasing both the MiSTer Pi case and QMTech one on Printables later today

[digital estuary]

After several weeks, I'm fnally getting FWWWN's Mister Pi case resin printed by JLCPCB, including crytstal clear resin LED pipes. I'm not doing the 64DD bottom portion though or the gray accents. Having a custom Mister FPGA "bubble/dome" sticker I designed using the N64 mister logo made by a company on etsy (cost a whopping $4 shipped) so in the end, it will look just like the 3D render in this post. I cant wait for the stuff to come in and ill be sure to post assembled pictures!

[faint dune]

I'm excited to see the finished result

[gritty herald]

https://bsky.app/profile/retrofrog.bsky.social/post/3ldgx4qftf22h

Todd Gill - Retro Frog (@retrofrog.bsky.social)

2 new releases on Printables!

I have added the @takiudon.bsky.social MiSTer Pi Compact case as a free download.

Also joining it is the QMTech stack version.

MiSTer Pi: www.printables.com/model/111080...

QMTech: www.printables.com/model/111081...

Merry Christmas!

Like & repost!

Bluesky · Dec 16, 2024, 6:23 PM

if interested

[faint dune]

Those chonky buttons ❤️

[gritty herald]

i like them too

[vital mica]

I think I still have my copies of all those

[faint dune]

Grandia as well. Don't let them forget Grandia :p

[zinc spoke]

I'm waiting on one of these to come in. Actually was working on modifying the case that the guy links on his tindie page, didn't realize there were other options already out there

Been designing mostly blind, though for how the hat bits sit.

[upbeat gyro]

Of course after I bought the files to change up my case they go free 😵‍💫. You’re welcome everyone 😂

[digital estuary]

Same LOL and i never ended up printing it either 🤣

[faint dune]

We have to fund Todd's Amiga problem

[gritty herald]

lol

Right now I have an Evercade problem

Just bought a VS, EXP-R and the Alpha

[gritty pumice]

what are people doing about a power switch? Those in-line ones on the cable cause voltage drops in my experience

printing those cases for the snac level shifter and snes adapter. Thanks whoever did those!

[upbeat gyro]

Zwave outlet

[gritty pumice]

so just a power button on the outlet kind of thing?

https://www.tp-link.com/au/home-networking/smart-plug/tapo-p110/

I have a spare one of those floating around, I guess I'll use that

not as convenient as having something on or right next to the MiSTer. I'll have to use voice activation

[vital mica]

There should be no issue with this very ubiquitous Samsung adapter on the MiSTER Pi right?

[gritty pumice]

that came out really nicely

and fit together perfectly

[slow skiff]

Not being a drag but…. this is a solution, from WAY back that I intend to use for the "on/off" issue

[slow skiff]

The render looks SWEET AS HELL... I can't wait to see the final

[faint dune]

I have never had a problem with either canakit raspberry pi switch (this one or this one). With that said, if you can wait, I am currently using another fine Todd product https://www.etsy.com/listing/1832675927/switched-usb-c-to-usb-c-for-mister-pi

[gritty pumice]

Those ones look decent

I've only had something like https://core-electronics.com.au/micro-usb-c-in-line-power-switch-cable-for-raspberry-pi-4.html

[faint dune]

yeah, the canakit ones feel a lot sturdier for sure

[gritty pumice]

doesn't look like they're made for Australia, which is what I need

I'd have to import one and use a travel adapter or something

assuming they even handle 240v

[patent knoll]

should be OK, but if you experience buttons that don't work on your controller or plan to plug in some secondary storage you might want to go with 5v 3a

[slow skiff]

My full RETRO option (literally a light switch) is way more robust, but like... hilariously stupid hehehe

[faint dune]

I don’t kinkshame

[slow skiff]

We in a retro game server, dedicated to a piece of gear that is as accurate as it can be with modern quality of life added... I'm sure we are LONG past kinkshaming at this point lol

[gritty pumice]

hmm, SNES snac adapter shell didn't seem to work as well, I don't think it's the right size

too small

[faint dune]

which one are you using?

@zinc spoke did one a little while back

[zinc spoke]

Yeah, they printed my level shifter case

[gritty pumice]

https://www.printables.com/model/1097212-mister-pi-snac-snes-case

I did the level shifter, it was perfect

but not really sure how to put the snes adapter into the shell

[zinc spoke]

Oh... You have to get it down in there on the ledge

[gritty pumice]

the hole for the USB connector is a REALLY right squeeze when I pushed it in from the other side, but not sure how I can get it in the correct way without breaking the adapter 😄

[zinc spoke]

It's not as bad as you'd think

Gotta angle it down a bit but it should slide in fine

[gritty pumice]

I might have to print it a little bigger

got it in!

[zinc spoke]

Wasn't too bad I hope

[gritty pumice]

not too bad, I pushed the plug in from the other side to loosen the hole a bit 🙂

[zinc spoke]

Seriously, you have no idea how many iterations I went through. :p

[gritty pumice]

haha I can imagine

I can't get to snap together now though

[zinc spoke]

I actually had expanded that hole a bit after an earlier version that was even tighter. :p

Hmm. How'd you print it?

What nozzle size?

[gritty pumice]

i'm just using the default nozzle of an Ender 3 v3 SE. Can't even remember what it is 🙂

the level shifter snapped together great. I think the little grooves at the top aren't quite big enough for me here

[zinc spoke]

0.4 is standard... So that should work okay I'd think

Grooves at the top?

[gritty pumice]

yeah

[zinc spoke]

So is it not staying together or not closing?

[gritty pumice]

not staying together

it almost does

[zinc spoke]

Oh bummer.

[gritty pumice]

not quite sure what it stopping it

[zinc spoke]

I will say that Arachne walls help with the details

Might have better luck if you use that setting

[gritty pumice]

one side snaps in but the other side doesn't quite hold at the front. It's not bad though. Thanks for your work!

the corner near the snes port won't quite hold, but it' pretty good still

[zinc spoke]

Well, I hope the changed settings help

[gritty pumice]

much better than bare circuit boards 😄

[slow skiff]

That's cuz you people are using FANCY 3D printing and stuff... just make them out of carboard and glue and the world would be fine (that was a joke, I'm in a weird mood today lol)

[faint dune]

I had to carefully line up the tracks on the connector and the case

[gritty pumice]

yeah I had a few goes at it, that was best I could get

it's good enough

I'm surprised how well this cheap Ender 3 v3 SE prints, it's not that slow either

[faint dune]

I made some illegal modifications to mine

[gritty pumice]

nice!

[vital mica]

What would you suggest?

[digital estuary]

I hope so too, i dont think anyone has printed this case in resin yet either. Regardless im sure it will end up looking better than my FDM printed case i have now

[slow skiff]

looks like fake carbon fiber, 's cool

[digital estuary]

Its just a PET carbon fiber textured 3d printer build plate

[digital estuary]

Canakit switch ftw. I love mine

[gritty pumice]

using a 5v 2A PSU and usb hdd doesn't work if I have my wifi/bluetooth dongle plugged in at the same time 😄

[cinder crane]

Have a higher amperage 5V psu handy?

[gritty pumice]

I would have. This was the first thing I grabbed when looking for a PSU

I'll find a beefier one later

using a 4A Meanwell on my de10 nano

found a Pixel 5v 3A / 9v 2A

that should be ok right?

[digital estuary]

Yeah my canakit one is 3a 5v

[gritty pumice]

hmm, still can't power the wifi/bluetooth and usb hdd at the same time 😦

HDD spins up and then spins down again over and over

it's not clunking like it did with the 5v 2A, but still not enough juice to run it

seems even worse actually, controller keeps missing button presses as if USB stops working altogether. I used the included type c cable, maybe it's not a good idea

I found a combination of ports that seem to work. I'm not sure if my USB 1 is working at all

anyone know what the green lights are next to the USB ports? The one with the HDD connected is flashing

having some weird CRT issue with Athena as well, some sort of flickering double image. I don't recall that on my de10 nano with directvideo

[cinder crane]

Can you swap the rotational hdd for a ssd?

[gritty pumice]

If I buy an SSD yes 😄

seems to be working now, I moved the wifi dongle to a different port

[cinder crane]

Ah that’s good.

[slow skiff]

hah, and you printed it upside down, awesome

[neon summit]

if you were using one of these two they're for power only

[gritty pumice]

I already found that out yesterday 😀

[neon summit]

oop my bad

[gritty pumice]

The one was I trying then was marked USB 1 on the case

But I think it's on the main board

Not sure what that one is for

[quasi granite]

That port is disabled if the hub board is installed, otherwise it’s the main board’s only USB port

[gentle remnant]

when using the snes save state core. is it still necessary to get the nightly mister unstable version

[gritty pumice]

that makes sense. Interesting that it's exposed and labelled on the case

[sharp pulsar]

I think it’s working on mine. I’ll check in a bit

[patent knoll]

Any charger rated at least 5v 3a should work fine. Steam Deck and Switch chargers will work too

[sharp pulsar]

“USB 1” is actually on the hub. There’s an unlabelled one on the main board just above it

[gritty pumice]

hmm, ok. I'm a bit blind and it was dark in the area when i was fumbling around looking for the USB port 😄

I just checked again with a torch and yeah, USB 1 is the one that is working, the unlabelled one wasn't, which is expected

getting this weird issue where my 8bitdo Ultimate Bluetooth controller keeps going to sleep after a few seconds of inactivity. I'm using the 2.4 GHz dongle and have never noticed this on anything else I've used it on

it seems to happen when I start a new core. Core starts, controller turns off after a few seconds. I turn it back on and it says on until the next time I start a new core. Could be a power issue

is the mega pack fan known to be quite loud? Mine was noticeable, never noticed the fan on my de10 nano MiSTer, but that is a Noctua 🙂

[faint dune]

it is, but there is a jumper right next to the fan that will swap it to 3v (which makes it much quieter)

[stray shore]

I've done it yesterday, much better now.

[neon summit]

Never noticed the noise with my batch 1

[stray shore]

I'm so much accustomed with my Noctua fans.

[faint dune]

That's good because there is no jumper on our batch 1s :p

[neon summit]

Huh, is it always 3.3V then?

[faint dune]

No, I thnk it's always 5

I don't know that for sure though

[neon summit]

It's definitely louder than my old noctua but I can only hear it clearly if my ear is right beside it

[faint imp]

I have had all sorts of disconnection issues with a Bluetooth dongle without an antenna

Got a cheap one from Aliexpress with an antenna and no issues now

[pine ether]

can you give us the link, i need one too for the mister pi, when it arrives

[misty ether]

I never used MiSTer before, I setup Mr Fusion on the SD card. It take less than a minute, then it leaves me in a "no files" menu. Is that normal? It's a fresh install but a puzzling message. The docs suggest the Mr Fusion should take longer, so I'm thinking there's an issue

Others reported this before but maybe they were newbies too, and the message is fine to ignore as it just needs the BIOS+ROMs? https://www.reddit.com/r/MiSTerFPGA/comments/133z478/no_files_after_fresh_mr_fusion_install/

[faint dune]

Yeah, that's normal. It's because there is no core folder structure yet. Pop it out, grab update all from here, unzip and put the .sh in the Scripts directory. pop it back in your mister and run it

[misty ether]

oh wow, thanks! I thought Mr Fusion did that, sorry!

[faint dune]

nah. the mr fusion experience could use some work 🙂

Mr Fusion has to be careful about what it includes

[zinc spoke]

Hmm. So... I think I'm gonna update the SNES SNAC case a bit... I realized that the snap is only 1.5mm tall and even the Level Shifter's is 1.7, so.... Yeah, gonna fix that up.

[misty ether]

you mean there are copyright or other legal concerns?

[faint dune]

update all allows you to download Arcade roms and Bios files. if that was included in mr fusion, then you could say that the mister project is a piracy project and Nintendo loves that shit

[misty ether]

makes sense, I didn't know it pulled roms and bios. I'm a dev, just trying out this space but might get into the code and help. I suppose even a different message ("error no files", but something more actionable and newbie friendly, to suggest some actions) might be handy. thank you!

[faint imp]

I just found this on AliExpress: $3.53 | 600Mbps USB Bluetooth 5.0 Wifi Adapter Dual Band 2.4G 5G Wi-Fi Dongle Antenna USB Ethernet Network Card Receiver for PC
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNpSbrH

[pine ether]

thanks man, ill look after it, so far i just need my mister pi, and that dongle to start the joy right?

[zinc spoke]

@gritty pumice FYI, I updated my model so the snap connector will HOPEFULLY be more reliable... Trying it out myself now just to verify.

[pine ether]

i already have usb controllers to test it, i think thats all i would need right? to start.

[zinc spoke]

@gritty pumice Yeah, the updated design holds together quite a bit better, and I made a note on assembly to clarify the angle on assembly.

[gritty pumice]

I'm using the 2.4GHz dongle that came with the controller

[gritty pumice]

great, I'll check it out later

[faint imp]

Those are not Bluetooth and generally tend to work ok yeah

[gritty pumice]

Yes, I think it's a power issue like the dongle is losing power when I load a new core

Even though I'm using a 5V 3A Pixel phone charger

I have a mechanical disc drive connected as well

I had the same setup on my de10 nano without issue, but that has a 4A PSU

[sharp pulsar]

HDD will use some juice for sure

I would suspect not enough amperage on the psu

[gentle remnant]

bump

[faint dune]

yes

[patent knoll]

Edit - newest save state core was pinned the SNES thread

[faint dune]

has it not been merged with the latest unstable?

[patent knoll]

Unsure - just tried it last week setting the lastest unstable as main. I ended making an entry in my .ini for it

I just updated my main to unstable again for the CDi core, so I can give it another try

[gentle remnant]

ok the october ? the ss core i have is from 20241109

and dont just ue the latest?

for now it just locks up

on another note I also did the sd card migration. figure out you need to add a drive letter to the sd card afterwards to make it accessable from a a windows machine but other than that worked great

[patent knoll]

@gentle remnant Oh i didn't know there was a November build. I got mine from here
https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=8459

[faint dune]

According to this, you just need unstable main https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?p=92504#p92504

[gentle remnant]

awesome thanks ill try then till one works

hey, is it simple t o change change back and forth for the mister builds?

well i guess what im asking as well as for the unstable builds as both posts say use the builds from "today" being the day that file wa released. Does thatn mean it maybe removed from the next version

i need a new keyboard..

[patent knoll]

Arrgh should have checked the pins!!
#1096636309679919136 message

[gentle remnant]

my bad thats the one i got

SNES_ss_20241125

[faint dune]

You can swap between mains by naming the unstable mister main file something different (like MiSTer_SNES) and the add [SNES] main=MiSTer_SNES to your mister.ini. That will load the unstable main whenever you load the snes core

[gentle remnant]

so any mister unstable from that point on should work? or does it have to be that version?

i think the post said grab it from the bottom

[patent knoll]

Hopefully the latest unstable main will work. Going to try with that 11/25 core

[gentle remnant]

got my crt out of the shop last night. screwed my arm up bringing it inside so next is cables

things must weigh 100 pounds

[patent knoll]

#unstable-nightlies message @gentle remnant

[faint dune]

if the latest unstable doesn’t work, we should report it

because it shouldn’t break now

[patent knoll]

I lost a completed Super Metroid save fiddling around with the first save state core!

Guess I'll just have to play through it again! 🎉

[gentle remnant]

a legit ram save?

ooof ill make sure to back mine up

fighting through lttp randomizer tough as nails run

[patent knoll]

@gentle remnant Yeah it somehow set the first save slot to empty. Maybe since I had auto save on and the save state function messed with the contents of ram. Not a big deal since I've beaten it like 10 times in the past and can finish it in 4 hours.

This is my bad though since I was not using the latest core with the latest unstable main.

[gentle remnant]

gives you an excuse to try the super metroid randomizer

ive herd tale of it i havent tried it. the lttp one can be tough

i thought i was good at lttp but nope

could run through it on 1 life

[patent knoll]

At least Super Metroid is shorter so you can hold all the locations in your head a little easier. Lttp randomizer seems daunting (but I do want to try it)

[gentle remnant]

theres a final fantasy one that scares me hhahaa

[zinc spoke]

I love aLttP randomizer.

But I also know that game incredibly well

And even so, it's better if you have a tracker. :p

[gentle remnant]

im running through with random items, random enemies, random bosses. 1/2 damage

as princess zelda

[zinc spoke]

Did you set it up so it can definitely be finished without glitches at least?

[gentle remnant]

yes

[zinc spoke]

The ones that start in the dark world are fun

[gentle remnant]

still softlocked myself once so far

[zinc spoke]

Didn't unlock the right door with a key?

[gentle remnant]

went through a warp with no return that led to the boss. and had no big key

[rich skiff]

Hey guys is there a specific channel for mister pi here? Or maybe u can help me. What do u have to do when u flashed the image on the sd?what settings/step is next?thank you

[shrewd dust]

You're in the MiSTer Pi channel

[rich skiff]

I copied this sorry lol

[gentle remnant]

@faint dune@patent knoll The latest unstable worked

[rich skiff]

@gentle remnant thank you mr.pillow

[winged summit]

do we know if Taki is aware of this and have plans to fix it in a future batch?

[dense umbra]

He must be using the same HDMI setup as the DE10 Nano
That has broken CEC and the HDMI is not electrically isolated so the board can partially power up from just HDMI power if using a HDMI switch

The CEC is fixed on the QMtech board

[delicate hazel]

What issues happen with the CEC?

[winged summit]

all of them, for what I have heard 🙂

[dense umbra]

On the DE10 I believe the CEC is grounded so doesn't work properly but the DE10 was never really designed to be used with AV setups or ARC, it's just a dev board

A CEC blocker or just removing a pin on the HDMI cable solves it

Looks like MiSTer Pi does the same

[sharp pulsar]

I don’t know what CEC is or does 🤠

[dense umbra]

It's designed to control multiple devices via one remote via the HDMI cable

[sharp pulsar]

I see

[shut warren]

Recently got my mister pi free case and noticed the fan sounds a lot louder in it. Do the grills add that much more noise? Also, if they do can I mod the shell to remove the grills part so that it’s just open and would that help?

I recently put in the noctua fan and it was super quiet

[winged summit]

You changed the jumper to lower the fan speed?

[faint dune]

Batch 1 boards don't have the jumper :/

Well, I don't think. Retroremake said there is a restister you can move...but (without looking at it) that sounds like it involves a soldering iron? #help message

[winged summit]

Ouch

[shut warren]

Interesting, what about modding the case?

[winged summit]

Can you put a resistor in line or something? No idea about case mods. No idea about electronics either 😂

[rich skiff]

guys is there only a turbo pack launch in a few hours?no meg apack?

[faint dune]

the paypal ones? yeah I think so

https://retroremake.co/products/mister-pi-retro-gaming-fpga-board-turbo-pack-paypal

[faint imp]

Wait, is that about to launch?

Gotta get one

[stray shore]

4H.

[faint imp]

Wait, I have 4 MiSTers now

Yep, I need the 5th one. Bring it on

[faint dune]

I'm waiting for those sweet sweet BGA stacks

[faint imp]

Those will be my 6th

[faint dune]

you catch thems all

[zinc spoke]

Cool, hope people who have been waiting can get theirs.

[rich skiff]

for what do u need so many misters

[slow skiff]

Mine is still 4PX’d in the middle of a warehouse south of china lol

[rich skiff]

why not letting people a chance to get the mister experience

why u have to buy so many

pc emulation sucks so bad . its such a hassle to configure everything and u got thousands of cables

[slow skiff]

If they have the cash, why not though? Probably would be good as an arcade

[rich skiff]

up to n64 dreamcast n stuff i would always recommend a pi or a mister

pc only for ps2 stuff etc

[zinc spoke]

I don't think I've ever really had issues with PC emulation? But the MiSTer is definitely cooler. 😛

[digital estuary]

As an owner of 14 arcade & pinball machines, I will say the Mister FPGA for subsuitute of arcade PCB's for retro 2D based arcade games is pretty on par with a jamma adapter. Not my use case for my Mister, but i would choose it over a raspberry pi for sure

[rich skiff]

i wanted to connect the pc on my crt tv but it was so awful

geoemtry issues

sometimes u dont get a picture

how did you your pc emulation?

[zinc spoke]

I mean, the boring normal way without trying to use a CRT. 😛

[slow skiff]

PC emu isn’t that bad… REAL mess of cables is getting ORIGINAL hardware running hahaha

[slow skiff]

Get an old Ati tv output or AIO card I assume is the easiest way to get to CRTs, that’s what I used to do in the early 2000s, but I don’t know the driver availability now

[tardy hornet]

I'm waiting on batch 2 still flagship... Would love to hear more

[faint dune]

It’s just ram soldered on. I also just buy one of each of his batches

[upbeat gyro]

Have a rpi5 in my cabinet and have considered replacing with a mister but the lack of Golden Tee kills it for me

We play a lot of golden tee 2k

My SD card just died. Considering replacing my rpi5 with an Orange Pi 5b though

[high umbra]

Yeah the ati cards were great for plugging into a crt. I think you need a newer, more powerful cpu to use the newer emulators.

[wary turret]

That and groovy_mister and you can use your tube with anything emulation

[gritty pumice]

I have a Radeon 7850 in my Blast City using CRT_emudriver

[tardy hornet]

lol dont have that kind of disposable income....

[faint dune]

You don’t have to if you make poor financial decisions!

[tardy hornet]

really the only one that interests me is the flagship and i think thatll be far enough out at this point that i can recoup and buy it when it comes out

batch 2 will get me into the ecosystem though

[digital estuary]

Yeah i wish mister had more arcade cores / titles. Thats the one downfall. I love love love golden tee 95-2k

[wary turret]

Yes it only has 735 arcade titles, WTH 😉

[digital estuary]

Well, part of that is alot of international titles we never got here stateside so dont have a clue about quite a bit

[gritty pumice]

lucky you, I tried in both batch 1 allocations and missed out. Managed to get on in batch 2. That was easy though, there was still stock hours later

I had address issues in batch one, wouldn't accept by address, even though I'd entered and saved it the day before

[high umbra]

Is that including neo geo (which i consider arcade)?

[wary turret]

No, good point

[digital estuary]

Are those 735 the update_all arcade repository?

[wary turret]

Yeah it’s actually 726, double-checked my spreadsheet

[faint dune]

it's not luck, its just old fashiond bad decision making

[wary turret]

Wait 727, JT just did fairyland story

[digital estuary]

Cool! Wanted to make sure i wasnt missing out on any titles. Im on JTs patreon

[wary turret]

Yeah there’s some revisions in there so not all unique, the the main set of mras not the alternatives. Still it’s a lot

Golden tee will come someday

Not sure which ones

[digital estuary]

Ill have to find a good trackball setup for when it does come lol

[patent knoll]

PSX, N64, and Saturn cores really helped with home ports some of arcade games that don't have native cores. Sega Ages and Namco Museums come to mind. 3D fighters and Midway games too

[wary turret]

We’ve got CD-i so someone will do golden tee. That’s just logic

[wary turret]

There’s always neo turf masters

But yeah there are some other silly trackball bar games would be good

Like Capcom bowling

[digital estuary]

Hell yeah Neo Turf Masters lives in my 6 slot cabinet!

[zinc spoke]

Woo, looks like it's still on sale.... so hopefully everyone who was really looking forward to this batch got one.

[crude kernel]

I noticed that Retro frog released his case for free. Easiest one to print by far, I didn't have any luck with the others I've tried

[zinc spoke]

The one I found worked pretty well for me, though the walls are a bit thicker, which can interfere with some things that are supposed to be practically mounted on the sides.

https://www.printables.com/model/1026569-mister-pi-taki-udon-mega-pack-case - This one

[crude kernel]

My ender 3v2 isn't really the workhorse it once was. It needs a tune up, I think my z offset needs dialed in

[zinc spoke]

Ah, well, I suppose I am printing with a P1S, but I don't think any of the parts are hard to print

[crude kernel]

I had issues with the one you listed, the top and bottom were ace but the interlocking sides just weren't printing right for me

[faint imp]

I have friends and relatives and I like to have spare ones to sell/give to them. I also like to have one MiSTer on several places/TVs at home, specially the kids TV

I usually get one per batch. Not a scalper here. You should be able to get one just fine 😌

[winged summit]

What is this sudden stock?

[faint imp]

PayPal special batch

[winged summit]

Only packs 😭

[faint imp]

I will probably skip this one to help our friends so they can get one

[winged summit]

Tempted, but the pack is not at all the setup I want

[crude kernel]

I agree, although I still bought another. Batch 3 already sold out and if tariffs are enacted right away us US folks might be spending more regardless.

... That was my reasoning anyways 😅

[winged summit]

knowing my luck, the second they run out of stock, a version of the Saturn core where everything works perfect with single ram will be released 😂

[crude kernel]

with perfect lightgun support

Saturn is great, no doubt about that

[winged summit]

People in UK that ordered mister pi with 4px, which company did the final delivery?

I will be in London on January, thinking about shipping directly to my brother's flat but I want to know the delivery company in case it arrives while he is not here, some companies have to deliver to the person, others can leave the parcel to the building guy that is on the front door doing stuff (can't recall the english word for that XD )

Ah, I already found on Search that they usually do Royal Mail

ordered, if I ever want to change to dual ram + digital io + another case it will be in some months and I suppose availabilty will improve and I can gift this one to a friend

[dense umbra]

4PX is pretty quick to the UK usually around a week

[dense umbra]

The 9.2 IO board acts as analogue or digital. You just remove the mezzanine board

[winged summit]

yeah, I know, but if I do that I have a VGA port exposed that is non functional and that rubs me the wrong way. I'm broken inside 😂

also each time people talk about the mezzanine board I have an urge to listen to Massive Attack

[dense umbra]

Hahah

I have not used a 9.2 board yet
I like the retrocastle boards for my DE10 build. Swapped out the analogue for digital recently as I have a QMtech with analogue output so don't need two

And tbh I prefer the HDMI output its easier and nicer

[winged summit]

I'm going to use the analog mostly

with a CRT TV and hoepfully soon with a CRT VGA monitor too

[dense umbra]

Yeah I had a dual setup CRT and HDMI for years but in the end the CRT sat there gathering dust

[delicate hazel]

Yeah, hdmi is great. For my ini settings I use: 1920x1080, integer resolution scaling, low lag vsync, hdmi game mode (don't think this has an effect on my TV as my TV has the mister set to pc) and HDR.

(I have vrr off)

The integer scaling is amazing, I'm getting resolutions like 1304x956 (for the PSX core), which kinda displays the game full screen to a degree without the stretching.

[oblique drum]

I the gameboy core you can see the the difference between integer and noninteger scaling best imo. In pokemon red one eye is way bigget than the other with noninteger scaling.

[sharp pulsar]

I discovered a few days ago that Land Maker was ported to psx!

Sick 2p game

[rich skiff]

Turbo pack still available?lol

[limber token]

Curios, before there was sold out. So if someone needs one, should buy one fast.

Iirc there was a small amount reserved for paypal checkout (200-300 units).

[winged summit]

He released those as Paypal exclusive for several hours, then available for card purchase too

[sharp pulsar]

Turbo pack is best pack

[limber token]

You better take what you can get.

[zinc spoke]

So, the noise of the fan on my MiSTer is getting to me... I guess it's time for that Noctua upgrade. 😛

[sharp pulsar]

Batch 2 boards have a jumper for reducing the fan speed and iirc batch 1 boards can do the same with a quick solder job

Made a big difference for me

[zinc spoke]

Eh, if it's still loud after the Noctua I'll look into that

[dense umbra]

Just change the jumper saves the cost of a noctura fan which isn't really needed anyway

[tardy hornet]

Man this 4px shipment was quite different from my usual experience...

[faint dune]

did it finally make it?

[tardy hornet]

Supposedly

[faint dune]

🤞

[tardy hornet]

Usually it would have gotten handed off to our local mail after clearing customs but they had a third party handle delivery

Which every time I've had a third party delivery it's always been something stupid like they leave it outside the business and it ends up getting stolen

[sharp pulsar]

Dang porch pirates

[tardy hornet]

Let's gooo

[dull gull]

I did the jumper swap and it worked a treat. Just had to not lose my mind from nerves as I disassembled it lol

[limber token]

My batch1 fan is noiseless, the question is how long? My 40mm fan from the mms was only quite for about 6-8 months 😁

[sharp pulsar]

If you can pull that L board off and reinsert it without snapping anything, you now have an idea of what removing EPROMs from arcade boards is like 🤠

[limber token]

Good old screwdriver trick does the work... 😁

[tardy hornet]

so just to be clear.... for dual ram

[digital estuary]

Yes that is correct

[tardy hornet]

thanks

[faint dune]

wait

you're using the mister pi yeah?

If you're using the io board (without the L-Shaped mezzanine) you don't need to flip anything

You only need to flip if you're using an older digital IO board OR no IO board

(it also won't hurt to flip it - you just don't need to)

[winged summit]

@faint dune you are a living FAQ answer

[faint dune]

https://tenor.com/5UHh.gif

[oblique drum]

Oh really? I'll get a pi with the 3rd batch and I'll install dualram on it. Good to know!

[faint dune]

yeah dude, it's confusing as hell because it's only with the new 9.2 board.

but i have a batch 2 mister pi running dual ram with nothing switched next to me right now

[oblique drum]

👍

[tardy hornet]

ah

alright time to take the top board off again

also is there a dual ram memtest? or is it just swap modules around

[faint dune]

apparently there is?

But I have never seen it. taki's support team has one...i guess?

I haven't emailed them

I'll do that now

[limpid jolt]

Therre is no dual ram test

mem test tests only one bank

a dual one would be dangerous as it would be sending signals to a set of IO lines that may not be connected to a ram chip but to an AV board

the only effective ram test is to see if the Jag core works

if it does you are dual ram

[crude kernel]

Dual ram would be nice, but analog io is my preference. Mostly for the ease of random crt's that I use. I like having simple av plug options

[limpid jolt]

you can use analog CRT with dual ram

you just need to use a dongle to take the HDMI and converts it to an analog signal

all you lose is the ability to simulatanously use a CRT and HDMI display

[faint dune]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ https://www.sotwe.com/tweet/1869317158536397211

i'll let you know what support says

[limpid jolt]

well BirdyBoy did write one

but never released it

because of potential misuse

I am guessing they got hold of that

[faint dune]

https://tenor.com/bdZgK.gif

[limpid jolt]

its easiest to just use the Jag core

if it works you are good to go with dual

[faint dune]

but you don't understand. I need to make sure it holds at 150mhz!

[oblique drum]

I had grandia flicker consistently before installing dual ram and it stopped the moment I installed dualram. So that was my test.

[tardy hornet]

hmm once this is done ill have to check the mister out cause while running update i noticed it doing a lot of video flicker

and artifacting

[tardy hornet]

its fine if it doesnt hold at 150 right?

as long as its between 140-150

[limpid jolt]

Thats normal

[tardy hornet]

ah good to know

[limpid jolt]

when the weak ARM is busy it fails to update the screen properly

[faint dune]

yep, anything over 140 is considered excellent

[tardy hornet]

i started getting worried seeing random bits on the right side and splitting

or i guess tearing?

[limpid jolt]

no thats perfectly common when running update all and doing a lot of io

[tardy hornet]

but good to know its fine