Nintendo 64

[zinc dew]

So is that better than the 8BitDo?

Anyone have both and can weigh in?

[lament escarp]

Imo: yes. The stick is n64 style and rumble works without any issues when reconncting. Admittedly I had to fiddle a bit with the stick to get it to properly sit in zero when not touched but that might well be since I opened it to grease it. Dunno if that's necessary. And I put some tape on the rumble pack since it used to rattle a tiny bit in the slot to make it fit snuggly.

[polar raft]

It sounds like you are talking about the full replacement kits (including the controller boards) vs just the sticks themselves.

[lament escarp]

Sorry, yes. I have the entire replacement kit for both.

[polar raft]

I did a stick-only replacement on one of my controllers with the 8bitdo stick, and I'm pretty happy with it. I only use wired controllers though.

[lament escarp]

Afaik there is a replacement stick from intec for n64. It's not quite the same as from the modkit, since the modkit one has more wires than the original. So dunno how comparable they are.

[bright lotus]

sensitivity-wise they're spot on

[vapid hawk]

might need to recalibrate it on a nintendo switch?

[lament escarp]

Did that, didn't help (except for using it on switch)

I think the spring was slightly off-center after I greased it. It's fine now, after taking it apart again and assembling it.

[brave beacon]

I would like to thank everyone, especially @zinc dew @jolly turret @iron wren for helping me out solving why my n64 core wasnt saving. In the end I've just changed the n64-database.txt (mine was very old, from when the core was still in beta) and creating the /media/save/N64 folder. Now I was able to start a new game in Super Mario 64, get the first star , saved and reset the core and when I came back there it was, my save game! Thank you guys!!

[iron wren]

Sweet!! Enjoy!

[worn delta]

Did running the update script not overwrite your old database file with a new one?

[zinc dew]

Nah bro, we don't deserve any thanks, at least I don't. You made it happen, you're the hero. 💪

[neat hearth]

maybe the real n64 core was the friends we made along the way

[brave beacon]

No, never, I dont know why. But as I said before, it was a file from the beta, maybe it had a wrong name. And I guess also the lacking of a proper save folder.. I dont know.

[weary palm]

.7z support would be kind of neat...

[hushed nova]

it would be a shitload of code to add to main

[worn delta]

It would be better if people just got more storage and we didn't use zipped ROMs at all...

Zipped ROMs can cause issues

Seriously, how much space are you really saving zipping ROMs?

[magic girder]

You don’t mean that for chd too, do you? 🥺

[worn delta]

Would people not rather have faster ROM loading and rule out any potential issues caused by zipping ROMs?

CD images aren't ROMs, chd is it's own beast

[vapid hawk]

and sd-cards are cheaper every day too

[zinc dew]

I will now zip my roms in defiance

[hushed nova]

other than 'the roms don't load as fast as they could' what other issues are there? because those should probably be investigated instead of being used as evidence for changing behavior

[worn delta]

It has cropped up across different cores in the past, I can't remember a specific example

[hushed nova]

oh ok

[polar raft]

They're CD-ROMs!

[mortal panther]

Exactly. They most definitely are ROMs. 😄

[worn delta]

Cool, well you guys feel free to zip up your N64 CD Roms

[weak hill]

thank you!!!!

[atomic stratus]

what kinds of issues? I use zipped roms nearly everywhere and can’t think of any issues they’ve caused

[weary palm]

Me neither.

But most of my stuff is not zipped. It's a bit unnecessary these days.

[magic girder]

You’ll all surely have a spare SD card for your MiSTer once your Switch 2s arrive 😏

[weary palm]

True. Very strange that the old one isn't compatible.

[sullen harbor]

Texture streaming probably the cause. Speeds are too slow on reg sd cards

[zinc dew]

As a consumer it sucks I have to buy a new micro sd card and an expensive one at that.

As a developer I am extremely grateful they are doing that and making it a requirement because not demanding a performance minimum for storage can absolutely screw your game perf over.

[sullen harbor]

I think it would have been better if they designed a little panel you can pop off the back and plug in one of those square nvme drives

[magic girder]

Wouldn’t that have taken up more space though?

[zinc dew]

I get that sentiment but those aren’t consumer friendly installations and micro sd is the standard for portable media

[sullen harbor]

Eh

[zinc dew]

It’s gotta be surface mounted, the sd card slots are super tiny

[sullen harbor]

Yeah making them easy to lose

[magic girder]

And you need all the controllers and sockets and whatnot, all of which takes up space

Space which can be used for a battery 😅

[sullen harbor]

I feel like there should have been a happier medium

[zinc dew]

For a mass consumer device I don’t think NVME has the ruggedness or purchase availability of micro sd

[magic girder]

SD card is a happy medium?

[zinc dew]

They’re great though, but geared more for enthusiasts

[sullen harbor]

... maybe full sd yeah

[zinc dew]

Micro sd express is the happy medium, it’s just brand new so it’s pricey as heck

[sullen harbor]

I'm talking form factor

[magic girder]

So you want something bigger cos you can’t be bothered to organise things in your house?

[zinc dew]

I think if micro sd cards were a problem form factor wise they wouldn’t have lasted long

I think, it’s a guess

[sullen harbor]

Or maybe my hands are big and it's a pain in the ass to fumble shit. Dont be insulting

[magic girder]

Store it in a full sized adapter , consider it as a case

[zinc dew]

if I had to use them a lot I’d be annoyed by them too lol

[magic girder]

I dunno. How often are you ejecting your SD card in your switch? Especially if it’s a brand new one that you’ve just had to go out and buy

[sullen harbor]

Yeah. I have a steam deck, a switch, digital cameras. Etc.
I fucking hate them on principal

[zinc dew]

For the switch, I just put it in and never touch it again

[magic girder]

Exactly

I’ve changed mine once when I upgraded the size

[zinc dew]

Yeah true I did that too

[sullen harbor]

Its not about storage.
It's not about how messy my house is
It's about the fact they are tiny flimsy pieces of shit that are smaller than my fingernail and using them in any capacity is a physical source of frustration for me

[zinc dew]

Yeah

Can’t argue that, they teeny tiny

[sullen harbor]

Sometimes 'it just works for me' is not a valid answer for someone else's problems

[magic girder]

Actually I’m not saying “it works for me”

I’m saying either accept it or don’t. It doesn’t matter what you think because the decision is made

But I wouldn’t get bent out of shape about it. It seems so incredibly minor

[sullen harbor]

...

[chilly ember]

I think worst case scenario the kid fiddles with the switch and ejects the sd card on accident inside the couch or ejects it and now you have no idea where it went because they weren't paying attention

[neat sierra]

Glue the door shut

Hot glue everywhere

Glue the kid down

[lament escarp]

Wow, look at @magic girder aura farming over here.

[zinc dew]

I mean, that works for me

[magic girder]

Dammit. I was gonna make that joke 😂

[sullen harbor]

I got bent out of shape because you made an off color remark about my living situation as a joke

[magic girder]

Whatever dude, sorry that I offended you by saying that, if losing something small was a problem, you should find a way to organise things so you don’t lose them

[lament escarp]

Don't worry, I live in my own filth as well and can't find any of my shit.

[neat sierra]

I don’t want to tell anyone how to live, but has anyone considered sdcard bandoliers like Chewbacca wears? Think about it

[zinc dew]

Ah I’m sure it wasn’t meant as a serious joke. They’re incredibly small, doesn’t matter how the house is, it’ll get lost the moment it hits the floor haha

[magic girder]

Me too, but then I don’t get angry when I can’t find things 😂

[magic girder]

This is the best suggestion

[lament escarp]

Oh I do get angry. That's when I don't post on this discord, Robby would have to insta ban me.

[magic girder]

Just don’t get angry and insult Nintendo or I’ll get angry 😡

Where’s that image when you need it?!

[lament escarp]

Game key cards are way better than physical games. All the inconveniences of physical media with none of the benefits.

[magic girder]

Nintendo with an Apple level of courage right there

[neat sierra]

I’d defend Nintendo but I didn’t manage to preorder a switch 2 so now I feel slighted. Wait no Nintendo has saved me money. I still love you Nintendo!

[magic girder]

Thanks. Couldn’t find it. Image too small

[little socket]

I wonder if their servers survive the release date rush...

[zinc dew]

☹️

[lament escarp]

I preordered one but no games, since there are none. 😦

[neat sierra]

You just rebuy all your old games!

Uh like every Nintendo 😜

[magic girder]

For real, if I have to go more-but-not-fully-digital, I do wonder if I should sell my switch 1 physical collection and just buy them all digitally

I love back compatibility, but if the switch 2 starts to go more digital, I should go all in, maybe

I have the same problem with my PS4/5 collection. Sometimes a clean break would be better

[little socket]

That reminds me, I probably shpuld chexk if my unused for years account still exists...

[neat sierra]

But someday your kids will be nostalgic for low fps TOTK and the emulators won’t get it right

[magic girder]

I might refuse to buy the upgrade pack so I can experience the game as it was intended

Cycle accurate lag!

[neat sierra]

It’s what we are here for. Specifically here in #1096015979055697940 the undisputed king of lag

[magic girder]

That’s why I don’t turbo core

[neat sierra]

Me either!

Jokes apart that’s the point

[little socket]

I don't remember.. did nintendo switch the account system with the switch release or at a later point?

[magic girder]

Sorry? I don’t understand

Oh, you mean Nintendo accounts carrying over from one console to the next?

[little socket]

Yes

I vaguely imagine that at one point therw was a change, but I dont know if that was wiiu ro switch or later during switch

[magic girder]

Pass. Somebody else probably knows. The Switch is my first Nintendo console (kinda)

(Family Wii/GC that I never played, owned a few handhelds but prior to online accounts being a thing)

[lament escarp]

I think they changed it mid wiiu iirc.

[magic girder]

I feel like Ninty have the worst track record for online accounts, but is it actually impossible to download games you own on any of the former consoles?

[little socket]

Then there is hope it still exists and I can play my 2 games again next month

[magic girder]

The current Nintendo accounts do work on the switch 2 afaik

I’m also wondering if the backwards compatibility “issue” on the switch 2, with not everything being confirmed to work, means that whatever compatibility layer they’re having to create, means that hopefully the games will be playable for the foreseeable on the NotSwitch4 or whatever

(That’s a badly written message, but you know what I mean)

[zinc dew]

Yes, can’t access anything or download anything on the original Xbox Live service for the OG Xbox

[kind nimbus]

Ah, I wonder if many of us have that same issue and just don't know it yet. Good call out.

[magic girder]

Oh, sorry - I meant can you still download games you bought on eg the Wii?

Trying to understand how far back we can really go

[zinc dew]

No unfortunately

[iron wren]

I thought you could? Unless that’s changed recently

[zinc dew]

Maybe I’m full of shit. I thought they took that down.

[mortal panther]

I thought the Wii Shop closed in January of 2019.

[iron wren]

They “shut it down” but the stub version of the store could still redownload games you purchased, and I’m pretty sure they haven’t changed that

[mortal panther]

Oh... but apparently users can still download previously purchased content.

It's essentially in 'archive mode'.

[zinc dew]

Oh good!

[iron wren]

Actually pretty crazy support imo

[mortal panther]

I guess it would be a slightly different story if the Wii U didn't have a Wii mode.

[amber fjord]

https://insignia.live/ has brought back live and title updates, i know they mentioned doing once free dlc but idk final consensus on that (copyright and all)

[zinc dew]

Woah that’s cool!

[amber fjord]

https://insignia.live/connect

[zinc dew]

In this case I’m glad to be wrong on both counts lol

[amber fjord]

😄 glad to prove you wrong in a positive way

i hop on every now and then

same gt if you wanna add as a friend on there (to anyone)

[magic girder]

If this happens with all digital stores, then I don’t really mind

[mortal panther]

Robby never gets tired of being wrong... because everyone wins. 🥳

[magic girder]

At this point I just assume the opposite of whatever he responds with 😏

[zinc dew]

my super power is just saying shit without fact checking it

[stone pilot]

are you sure

[mortal panther]

Able to leap tall tales in a single bound.

[magic girder]

If you decide game dev isn’t for you, maybe go into politics

[cold pollen]

As much as I hate expensive stuff and having to buy new hardware honestly a lot of the decisions for Switch 2 make sense to me 🤷🏻‍♂️
And I'm not being a Nintendo apologist

[cold pollen]

Shit I was hoping that picture of me wouldn't get out

[magic girder]

The decision that frustrates me the most is the old pro controller not being able to wake the console

So I need to go out and buy what is basically the same controller for a c button I’ll never use, and some back paddle buttons that I can do without?

[latent dagger]

Welcome to the world of proprietary bullshit

[zinc dew]

I stress, I’m not being sarcastic or a smart ass but is the console in a difficult spot for you to hit it or is it the convenience?

[latent dagger]

The console isn't where the money is at. Games are only half of it. The accessories are the other half

[magic girder]

Just convenience, which is exactly why I won’t buy one 😂

[stone pilot]

why isn't the piranha plant 1080p

[magic girder]

Standing up to power it on is worth saving £75 to me

Or whatever it costs

Way too much, iirc

[zinc dew]

Its from Hori and it was originally like $30 versus Nintendo’s camera being $50

So it was a fair bit cheaper

[latent dagger]

Just rob a Walmart

-# /jk

[cold pollen]

Shit that is gonna suck

[stone pilot]

I would've recommended they do 1080p at $60 instead

[cold pollen]

Basic botany

[stone pilot]

the piranha plant is a boutique product

[latent dagger]

I would say just wait a little bit and someone like Power A will release a wireless controller that can do what you want for half the price @magic girder

[magic girder]

But I already have a controller?

I don’t need more!

[vapid hawk]

is xbox one to xbox series the only console leap where you could just keep using your old pad with no downsides?

[cold pollen]

Will it? None of my 8bitdo stuff can wake the Switch does Power A have magic

[latent dagger]

Then maybe someone will release a dongle or something LOL

[magic girder]

My house is full of the fuckers. One day I will be crushed by all of them!

[stone pilot]

I just think they're leafing money on the table. If you make a camera like that, you should be pakkun functionality into it.

[cold pollen]

You don't get a share button!

[latent dagger]

Power A is officially licensed by Nintendo

[magic girder]

Buying a MiSTer didn’t help!

Someone please help me!!!

[latent dagger]

They are basically the official third party manufacturer

[cold pollen]

Ahh

[zinc dew]

The new price is due to the tariffs. Hori likely hasn’t shipped them to the US yet which is why it’s literally double the price now.

[stone pilot]

They're so licensed, it's actually kind of annoying. You'll see controllers that look fully Nintendo-branded, and then just see a tiny PowerA in the corner

[zinc dew]

The Switch 2, camera, and other accessories have been in the US for a month now

[magic girder]

I like nom. I don’t know who they are, but cool name and cool logo

[latent dagger]

Usually on the cheaper products they offer though you're missing out on a few things. Like vibration, or built-in NFC on a thumb stick kind of nonsense. But otherwise stuff works just fine whether it's wired or wireless and usually has motion tilt control stuff too if you pay the slight extra premium for a controller with that option

[stone pilot]

Sorry, yeah, I meant pre-tariff. I would've recommended in general that they match the 1080p resolution of the boring camera, but do it at a higher price.

[zinc dew]

Yeah I completely agree

[magic girder]

Is it 480? 😅

[zinc dew]

Yeah it’s a shit resolution and now costs more than Nintendo’s own offering

[magic girder]

Because I’d say that’s an improvement for me 😅

[stone pilot]

isn't it horible!

[zinc dew]

Well in Europe it should still be cheaper, I think anyways

[magic girder]

Obviously

[stone pilot]

I wonder if duty-free shops will start carrying game consoles now

[vapid hawk]

yeah like i said, zero downside

[stone pilot]

aww surely you can C the appeal

[magic girder]

I saw an ad for the video chat thing the other day - they actually made it look quite fun and cool (typical marketing) - but I don’t really game with any of my friends (I don’t think any even have a switch), so I won’t get a camera

That said I also didn’t take my switch 1 and play it on a rooftop like the original ad

I might go and play Skyrim the next time I take a flight though

[zinc dew]

I have a camera preordered but I’m iffy on it. My older son says he wants one to chat with his friends for Mario Kart.

[stone pilot]

https://youtu.be/B1e1BcyuvPg?t=130

(timestamp)

[latent dagger]

No dude see here's the deal, you're supposed to get into video chats with complete strangers on the internet. This is what it's really used for. This is how kids are going to use it.

[magic girder]

That makes me feel uneasy

And I’m not even a parent

I hope there are some parental options to lock that down or whatever

[latent dagger]

It was kind of a semi joke. I do think you're only going to be able to get into video calls with friends on your friends list. Which means you have to have a means of communicating and doing a friend code friend request system first to then be able to get a video calls with people, so all the creeps on the internet are going to have a hard time as long as kids are wary of just accepting random friend requests, and their parents are keeping tabs on things too.

[magic girder]

Nintendo’s weird friend code thing actually looking like a good idea 😂

[latent dagger]

In fact, I would have to look at this myself to see if this is the case, but it would make most sense that Nintendo already has parental control setups for if you designate account as a child account, you can't just add people to the friends list without a parental code being entered

[chilly ember]

https://www.xboxachievements.com/forum/topic/7448-whats-the-craziest-thing-youve-seen-on-camera-so-far/page/6/

[magic girder]

I’m sure they probably will lock it down in some way

[chilly ember]

I remember hearing stories of people using the camera on xbox 360 to be disgusting and found a thread from back then discussing it

[deft tree]

I remember hearing about 360 Uno being a minefield

[thorn flax]

oh yes

i saw some shit

[rare relic]

random thought and obviously wouldnt be done within the n64 core, but these n64 game decomps that have been happening, what would be involved to get them running on/ported to the mister?

[zinc dew]

I guess port the whole thing over to function in verilog and then somehow have it function within the MiSTer framework if written as a core.

Otherwise have it run off the arm processor, which is super underpowered.

It’ll basically be a ton of work for no benefit.

I think those decomps make sense where the hardware can’t really run N64 emulation well or uses an emulator that isn’t very accurate. But on the MiSTer with a near perfect N64 emulator, there’s no real need.

I mean that’s my opinion. Not saying other people wouldn’t have a desire to have it.

Sorry I come across as pooping on the idea. I don’t mean to.

[rare relic]

interesting yea my thought was maybe higher res at better performance but if thats not the case then it wouldnt be worthwhile

[zinc dew]

Porting it to the arm side and having it run via Linux would probably be the most realistic way of doing it. Someone ported scumm vm and another guy did the Duke 3D engine that way.

[neat hearth]

Robby is a core dev, ask him about the roms

[green epoch]

I think he pronounces them "rooms"

[latent dagger]

I say romes

[neat hearth]

arr oh ems

[latent dagger]

Read ONLY memory

[neat hearth]

yes

[latent dagger]

Let's just all start saying the full name

[neat hearth]

unlike Read Andwrite Memory

[latent dagger]

....

Now you're just trying to trigger someone

😂

[neat hearth]

yes

[latent dagger]

Wait.... If it is Read Andwrite Memory, then that means any storage device can be called RAM

🤔

[neat hearth]

isn't that the case with ROM as well

it's just a classification

there's also WORM

Write On Recordable Media

which describes CD-Rs

[latent dagger]

Remember when the came out with CD/DVD that could be rewritten to? Wild.

[neat hearth]

yes it was cool except they cost a lot and were shit

[latent dagger]

Lol. True

[neat hearth]

compatibility issues all around

the + and - divide was angering too

it helped kill the cd medium

[mossy vector]

The part that Mister solves is the rasterization of triangles and the vaseline vision filters, in hardware, in an accurate way

Want to run the CPU code faster, with inaccurate graphics at a higher resolution? run emulation station or some other tripe.

[zinc dew]

Speaking of which, what’s a noise filter in an N64 emulator? Trying to get the Mario Adventure 2 Demo to work, but graphics are corrupted - https://romhacking.com/hack/mario-adventure-2-demo

[mossy vector]

The noise filter is a random number generator. It's basically free in hardware taking a few gates, but on a x86 CPU it's extra code that must be run, a lot.

Oof, this looks computationally expensive on an emulator.

[zinc dew]

Yeah I was wrong. That’s how it’s supposed to look lol

The game funds so tremendously slow

[hushed nova]

it needs a better job

[zinc dew]

lol I mean runs

[stray void]

So I have a question and Im sorry Im so active with these questions here

Excited to put mine together when I get the pieces

I was curious, is there a way to transfer your Pokemon from Gen 1 or 2 to the Stadium games via the GB saves or Transfer pak?

Or even between games.

[lament escarp]

Yes, you load the gb game in the n64 core and the save from the gb core is automatically transferred between cores.

Gb tower also works in pokemon stadium 1 but not 2, as the core doesn't have rtc and mapper support for that.

But snac always works.

[stray void]

Oh thats cool!

[lament escarp]

There is also a 2 player gb core that allows for trading, I think. Never used it much as I prefer romhacks that make trading unnecessary.

[stray void]

Ohhh cool

[patent saffron]

Has anyone had problems with Antonio Villena's SNAC-DB9 adapters for N64?

[green epoch]

you need to use a special build of the core iirc

although I cannot find the fork

[patent saffron]

I have the DB9 build, but when I test it with an original controller, buttons I haven’t pressed (like Start or L, for example) are triggered.

[green epoch]

I am not seeing anyone else with that issue, unfortunately. Might be worth reaching out to Antonio and see if they have any guidance

[wanton sun]

With a custom build that is trimmed for mister, we could indeed let the ARM CPU run the CPU part and do the RSP/RDP stuff in FPGA, leaving more space to e.g. increase render resolution.
Overall it would be a lot of work and probably needs tweaks for each decompiled game, so it would be effort like for some single arcade games.
And in the end it would still be way inferior to a PC Port.

[neat hearth]

but WHY

[zinc dew]

I don’t know lol. The description seemed fun; they remade Sonic Adventure 2 levels in Mario 64.

[neat hearth]

yeah, i just wonder about the noise hm

[zinc dew]

They primarily use it to hide and load meshes in the level select room.

[strong flower]

I found a bug that's in the core but not with original hardware. Where should I post it?

[magic girder]

https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/N64_MiSTer/issues

[strong flower]

Thanks!

[magic girder]

But it may be worth mentioning here just in case someone is already familiar with it

[strong flower]

Sure - It's with a rom hack so I'm not sure if it is a priority. Mario's Vacation Course works perfectly on original hardware via an Everdrive. But the screen persistently flickers when playing on the Mister.

[chilly ember]

Only up rom hack has an issue like that too

[magic girder]

Yeah, quite a few romhacks seem to struggle - although I don’t have original hardware to compare with. A lot of the earlier ones definitely didn’t work that well with original hardware

[zinc dew]

It’s like not a priority but that’s an awesome find all the same. Good to have that documented and bugged. Thanks man.

[strong flower]

Yeah, I'm specifically looking for romhacks that are made for orignal hardware and testing them on the Mister.

My pleasure!

[magic girder]

Nice! I started trying to document some romhacks a while back - it would be good to get a list of ones that are known to work/not work on the core 🙂

#1096015979055697940 message

[strong flower]

Sure thing! Is there a document that I can add to? Or could I upload one myself? This is the first game I ran into any issues with so far. But I've only tested maybe half a dozen at this point.

[magic girder]

@worn delta can we hijack part of the testing spreadsheet, please?

But probably good to store wherever works best for you in the interim. I’m sure we can figure out a place to pull all the info together

[strong flower]

Sounds good

Thanks!

[worn delta]

The old N64 testing sheet?

Yeah, if you want to add a new tab feel free

[strong flower]

Can you point me to that sheet?

[latent dagger]

Should be in the pins

Or not

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H4KYg0gsOWGayioXKSETtlM7d7g3Tk4w0QXqtXvugG8/edit?usp=drivesdk

I think this is it

[strong flower]

I've added several of my findings into a new tab called, "Hacks for Original Hardware."

[magic girder]

That’s awesome. Thanks! I’ll add my stuff later too 🙂

[little bane]

I haven't ventured into n64 hacks yet, I need to find a pack of these hacks in the archive, if it exists.

[zinc dew]

Can just go to any rom hack site, then pick and choose what interests you

There’s a dedicated one for Mario 64 hacks

[little bane]

I'm going to check, but I'm tired of going after them one by one, I have a newborn daughter, I've been very tired lately.

[zinc dew]

Oh yeah that’s understandable.

I can pull together a few rom hacks I have on my system that work well later today for you.

Also congrats on the newborn daughter!

[little bane]

Thanks man

[little bane]

No need Robby, I'll thank you!
later when I have more energy I'll look for it, I need to update my everdrive and the mister in some games and hacks that must have been released

[lean sable]

ROM hack "Perfect Dark +" by Wreck works(runs decently on 80mhz core, normal core is pretty choppy compared to console). I've been playing that along with "Majora's Mask GameCube to N64 v1.4" hack, which also works as does "GoldenEye X 6a"

[cerulean elk]

lol been looking over my shoulder? I just uploaded 3 “rom hacks that work” vids this morning

And legit all three games are on your list. Prediction much? Haha

[zinc dew]

** 𝐓𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐒𝐡𝐞𝐞𝐭 **

Spreadsheet - [LINK]

(thanks to @worn delta for this invaluable community resource; reach out to him if you’d like to contribute)

[cerulean elk]

Peach's Fury is such a bummer

(that it doesnt work that is)

[zinc dew]

Right I forgot to post a list

[strong flower]

The more I think about it, the more unlikely I think it is that Return to Yoshi's Island will ever be compatible. The way that Kaze has been optimizing the code is truly unlike anything that was done on the N64 in the 90s. But, when there's a will, there's a way.

Tomorrow, I'm planning on testing Mark Kurko's new project. Fingers crossed. I haven't seen any issues with any of their other hacks so far.

[cerulean elk]

That is tomorrow eh?

[strong flower]

Yeah, he moved the early access from the 10th to the 7th

[cerulean elk]

Nice

[vapid hawk]

do we know why peach's fury doesn't work on the core?

thats a really good one and i didn't think they were doing anything too crazy

[cerulean elk]

I don’t know if an exact reason was ever discussed

[strong flower]

I reached out to Kaze and he just said, "That's odd but not too surprising."

Has anyone else tested besides me? Maybe I'm just unlucky lol

[wanton sun]

It doesn't seem that he really cared about compatibility in the past. It's always a surprise if the mods work in any emulator.
The core with random timing due to shared ddr3 will not help with that.
Some super optimized game barely running on original hardware is not what you want on the core. It's a shortcoming for sure, but not unexpected.

[magic girder]

I tested - didn’t work

But yeah - almost anything by Kaze doesn’t work on the core

[strong flower]

He did Missing Link. I just tested that and it passed. 👍

[magic girder]

Exception rather than the rule 😉

[strong flower]

For sure. It's definitely still worth testing his games (because they're some of the best hacks out there).

[magic girder]

Maybe the best hack is the friends we made along the way

-@zinc dew, probably

[cerulean elk]

I now have more "rom hacks that work on the core" videos than I probably need

[magic girder]

Wanna write a list after the videos are out?

[cerulean elk]

I think just one is. Let me look

[magic girder]

I’ve seen… at least one

[cerulean elk]

https://youtu.be/5QRyEzJbskU

https://youtu.be/gbjdovwfwIs

https://youtu.be/K380a3cwNwI

that is whats out

(tag anywhere)

Dual Adventure

Dawn and Dusk

and I am editing Star Road / Elise / Dog Collab now. All work

Elise is a wild one; cant recommend enough

oh and bear waker

https://youtu.be/8Hp7vk6oWT4

[strong flower]

@cerulean elk Your work ethic is crazy! So quick!

[magic girder]

Don’t encourage him 😉

[cerulean elk]

Haha I like to keep busy

[cerulean elk]

Your mother gives me all the encouragement I need

[languid dune]

Not as much as my mother! Right Dad!?

[cerulean elk]

I’m everyone’s father based on my joke history 🤣

[languid dune]

This means that arnrh and I are siblings!

[magic girder]

Truly terrifying

[gloomy solstice]

Hello, I don't know if this is the right chat. I'm new here. I wanted to ask if anyone has already connected his NSO N64 controller to his Mister Pi by cable? Because my controller loses its connection all the time when the rumble pack is activated.

[green epoch]

could be a cable issue or a power supply issue. what are you using with your mister pi?

[gloomy solstice]

i use a power supply from anker

it`s 12 W

I try a different power supply

[green epoch]

Yeah, start there. That sounds like a power issue only because it works and then it doesn't

[gloomy solstice]

It was the power supply. Thanks!!!

[iron wren]

RTYI (the preview build anyway) worked on the mister core great in my tests fyi, I would be surprised if the rest of his work on it ends up being incompatible with the core but compatible with hardware and software emulators

[strong flower]

It doesn't look like he's targeting FPGA and Peach's Fury was a tech demo of sorts for what's to come. But, I'll be. I'm testing the demo build from earlier this year and it's working! Fingers crossed that the official game works, too.

Actually, it just crashed. Dang.

[sullen harbor]

Just a side note the oot and mm widescreen hacks work well so far on the core

[iron wren]

Folks were having random crashing issues on hardware and emulator too, iirc nothing special to fpga

[zinc dew]

That dude’s hacks are always a toss up if they work on real hardware/mister or not.

[cerulean elk]

It’s interesting to me that N64 is the one platform where modders and fan game makers just target emulation as the platform of choice

I can’t think of another console where a large amount of rom hacks are emulation only

[zinc dew]

I assume it’s due to the complexity of emulating the hardware and how only until recently software emulation has begun to accurately approximate real hardware.

I still think N64 software emulation is subpar though, with only the MiSTer being the only acceptable way for me to enjoy it outside of real hardware.

[cerulean elk]

lol I am so confused; you are Robby here and Rgarcialago on my phone discord. What texas magic are you pulling?

[cerulean elk]

Ares is so close to a replacement but those damn stutters here and there are a killer

[zinc dew]

Oh true, I should check that out again

[cerulean elk]

speaking of N64

https://defaultdnb.github.io/ReCollect64/blog.html#b128

Dino Planet Recomp came out late last night. A recomp for a prototype. Now I've seen everything

(also link contains no files that would be disallowed. You supply the rom files for the recomp executable)

[zinc dew]

Thanks for posting that, now I don’t need to do any due diligence lol

[cerulean elk]

haha and BK Nostalgia 64 should be out sometime today on Patreon

a busy N64 day

[mortal panther]

VGE providing us with a little bit of N64play.

[cerulean elk]

this is one of the weeks where EVERYTHING happens all at once

Dino Planet recomp / BK Nostalgia / new saturn emulator / lost arcade games pop up / Uncle Alejandro rears his little smoking rat face / F2 alpha core / Flycast big update

[mortal panther]

"Uncle Alejandro rears his little smoking rat face"
Ugh...

[cerulean elk]

lol its a pretty funny video for what its worth

[mortal panther]

The gift that keeps on givin'

[cerulean elk]

22 min til Uncle Don Ron Jeremy Alejandro vid is out

dunno what's better for 4PM; Dino Planet Recomp or BK Nostalgia 64. That is if the post goes live early enough for BK 64 to capture and edit

I think Recomp just because that's been a hot topic lately

[zinc dew]

I think there’s more eyes on BK Nostalgia 64, especially with streamers playing it

[cerulean elk]

if the release is too late the decision gets made for me. This is always the hard part...talk about the super popular thing day of but expect 20 OTHER people to do it too, or talk about the OTHER thing that maybe only I will run a vid on and talk about the super popular thing THE NEXT DAY

for making videos about gaming there is so much meta in the entire thought process of the "what and when" of it all

[cerulean elk]

Testing DK Nostalgia 64. Boots. So thats hurdle one!

[cerulean elk]

works great, no notes, have fun

Apparently I dont have edit permission to the testing sheet so someone enter this for me please

Romhack: DK Nostalgia 64. Original Game: Banjo Kazooie. Test Length: 1 Hour. Runs: Yes. Bugs Found: No. Issues: None

[quick arch]

thank you for the test, great no issue found

[cerulean elk]

Yep seems good to go. Granted I haven't beaten it but so far it's completely stable

[wanton sun]

Is it comparable to jiggies of time? that is such a great game and fully packed of content.

[cerulean elk]

If I had to compare it I’d say Jiggies of Time it’s very similar. That being said The Bear Waker has been my favorite but that’s just from aesthetic standpoint

It’s got a lot of content, some solid secrets and a really interesting gameplay loop. Def not the easiest game though. It is in the slightly more difficult side imo

[wanton sun]

isn't bear waker just the starting island, so about 30 minutes long?

don't get me wrong can still be a good experience, but what imprssed me most is the sheer amount of content, music, level design in jiggies of time.
First you think it's just the assets from OoT but then there is so much more

[cerulean elk]

Yes it’s the shortest by far

The readme lists 9 jiggies per world for Nostalgia

99 jiggies total with 115 mumbo tokens and 1000 notes per the info available

so it is ONE jiggie short of Jiggies in Time and thats probably the most number of times anyone has ever written the word "jiggie" in the server in such a short amount of time

so itll def keep you busy. In my capture I saw 7 jiggies and collected 4. I cut most of them out of the video and just showed the location of two to keep spoilers to a big minimum

and the ones I showed were right out in the open. Honestly I threw away the back half of the capture as I really didn't want to spoil any of the surprise. Just featured worlds that are available right at the start of the game without unlocks since its day 0 and its just patreon release

[mortal panther]

I kept reading 'Jigglies of Time' for some reason. I thought it was some NSFW ROM hack for Chrono Trigger...

[cerulean elk]

no that's an 50+ strip club out near O'hare

[hushed nova]

takes notes

[mortal panther]

checks flight prices

[cerulean elk]

Gives a whole new meaning to “80s night”

[cerulean elk]

if derailing a conversation was a career I'd be CEO by now

[cerulean elk]

BK Nostalgia vid is up

[solar slate]

it is crazy. With the right texture style, the N64 can show very nice things. Unfortunately back then it was common to use real world textures from texture cds. This was not always a good idea.

[strong flower]

It's slightly harder than Jiggies of Time but it appears to be just as ambitious and polished so far.

[strong flower]

If only The Bear Waker was a full game. What's there was fantastic, though.

[cerulean elk]

It’s my fav concept of his work

[cerulean elk]

I swear people can be the cheapest mother f’ers sometimes

[zinc dew]

Just be honest with your posts bro

[cerulean elk]

I’m about to take my guns out and throttle some redditors 🤣 old thunder and lightning

[zinc dew]

What did he say not the point to

How is your post misleading

I must know

[cerulean elk]

Cheap bastards lol

[zinc dew]

Yeah that’s a good point, $5 if you can’t wait. Free if you can wait. It is a great bargain.

I mean be honest with your posts, that’s not the point

[cerulean elk]

People this week. I’m about ready to live in a cabin in the woods off radar lol

[mortal panther]

Wow... such profanity on reddit.
Oh wait, that was you. 😏

VGE researches Starlink price tiers...

[stray void]

"Thats not the point", I swear people just debate in a circle, knowing theyre wrong and will just keep going to not have to admit they were wrong.

Just stop typing bruh, you're wrong, whats there to lose? Its reddit dude.

And then got the "Phoenix Wright" in the username too, yeah a lawyer would use this method.

[dusty tusk]

Should have added an asterix to the subject. That's what games from scratch does for free* things

[cerulean elk]

I’m just shocked people won’t toss a hard working dev a fucking fiver for the mountain of work

Like how cheap are gamers?

[zinc dew]

I’m still salty all these people get to troll awbacon and here I am not doing it

[cerulean elk]

lol I make fun of all of them. New VGE chapter. Everyone gets Robby treatment

[zinc dew]

It’s just a matter of perspective. Since rom hacks are free and have always been free, I can understand some people bristling at the thought of someone charging them money for it.

I know this isn’t charging them money, it’s subscribing to a Patreon to support the developer, not to pay for the rom hack. But to them the Patreon is a means to acquire the rom and nothing more.

When I say understand, I mean I don’t agree with them but I can see the gears in the head.

[mint shadow]

Those gears need to learn some patience, and it will be free in a week

[zinc dew]

A lot of it is also jealousy. They don’t have it and you and others do so they’re upset over that too,

It’s a very silly thing to get upset over.

The only thing I’d say is that by requiring payment to access the rom, it’s opening himself up to legal trouble. If one wanted to pursue it.

Microsoft probably doesn’t give a shit and it’ll be all bad press anyways. So I think he’s absolutely safe.

But the moment any form of currency exchange enters the picture over intellectual property you don’t own, the lawyers perk up.

And yes I’m well aware that you’re not buying anything. You’re subscribing to a Patreon which is a donation. Also in like 5 or 10 days everyone will have access to it. Yes that’s not lost on me. But he is charging money for people to access a modification of software he doesn’t own the license to, featuring licenses to intellectual property he also doesn’t own the license to.

But also I’ll take my own advice, who gives a shit. It’s just fun retro games for people to enjoy. Shit is real cool man, I don’t give a fuk if he charges money for it. Whatever man, if he can make bank then awesome. Good on him.

[stray void]

I remember this situation with Sonic Omens, comparing this to that, this is the way to do it.

Sonic Omens's devs were locking builds behind tiers. This is literally just a 5 dollar donation.

Its much better, especially when its coming out soon and has actual original work in it, and when it doesn't SUCK DONKEY- I'll stop right there.

[cerulean elk]

I’m just always impressed with people’s massive negativity in the face of amazingly cool things

[stray void]

I saw a guy on a rom hacking site reviewing a hack that improved a notoriously bad game like it was a failure

People can suck

[cerulean elk]

I can’t imagine how they get through the day when everything is so bad

[stray void]

It was the Megaman X5 Addendum hack btw

[tardy spade]

Some people are addicted to negativity and voicing it. Better just ignore them as you’re not gonna convince them to change their mind

[stray void]

Rom hacks are my interest now. That Mario Kart one really sold me.

Amped Up, thats the one

It has an elimination mode

[cerulean elk]

There’s so many good ones for N64

And Saturn lately has been getting a torrent of translations

Honestly poor PS1 has been left out in the cold

[stray void]

Theres so many good Translations for PSX

But also it won the console war in the 90s, so it can eat shit. Let us eat a lil.

[desert crow]

and what if you had to pay 5 bucks for each one?

[cerulean elk]

I’d pay five bucks

[desert crow]

I dislike Patreon and their tier thing because it encourages this kind of stuff.

I agree with one of positions Robby took there. 🙂

[stray void]

Ps1 won in console sales

But you know what N64 won in? Wrestling games

No Mercy, NWO vs The World, Wrestlemania 2000?

I love AKI

[paper crescent]

Virtual Pro Wrestling 2

[neat hearth]

all pro wrestling is virtual wrestling

[stray void]

I forgot that one

Isnt that WCW Vs The World's Sequel?

The one good ps1 wcw game lol

Also

😬

Poorly aged

[strong flower]

If I could make rom hacks, I'd be tempted to make one for Crash Team Racing, inspired by the remake. And, by that, I mean I'd add micro transactions. And, by that, I mean I would lock the content behind a patreon subscription. 🤣

[stray void]

"If you become a tier 3 patron, you'll have access to Coco Park 2"

[lament escarp]

At first I thought: "you can simply start by hex editing and work your way up" but the more I read the more I thought "never mind" 😅

[cerulean elk]

lol it took me forever just to get the security checks figured out on Konami arcade hardware just by editing the hex. It takes a lot of "mental visual translation" to understand how editing hex ends up in actual changes later on down the line

[lament escarp]

For pokemon it helped me to have the source code in assembly since that translated really close to the compiled file. But a lot of trial&error.

[sullen harbor]

Ares is actually pretty good in this regard. The problem is their obsession with absolute accuracy and lack of thorough testing leads to continuous regressions and outdated ui with a lack of per console button mappings means using it can be fucking annoying at times

[zinc dew]

Yah, @cerulean elk said a similar thing about ares. Guess I should probably erase that subconscious bias from my mind and try the latest N64 emulators.

I do have it installed on my PC, just haven’t tried the latest update.

[cerulean elk]

The only issue I have with Ares is random frame stutters. Like one frame will duplicate or drop

Otherwise it’s quite good. The only N64 software emulator I will use

[sullen harbor]

I use rosalie mupen gui if I want to upscale and I keep an eye on gopher64 which is the simple64 guy's follow up written entirely in rust

[zinc dew]

Why is written in rust good or special? Genuine question.

I see that sometimes, like so and so emulator is written in rust.

[neat hearth]

supposedly fewer bugs

[sullen harbor]

From what I've been told. It's about as powerful as c++ without the complexity
So for example you dont need to do memory management coding

[neat hearth]

mmmm

Rust looks on par with C++ in complexity

just as ugly somehow

[sullen harbor]

Some people seem relieved with rust not having c++ annoying caveats
I do know this.
Gopher runs about as well as simple64 is a 10th the size and is a single exe with no additional files

[neat hearth]

Rust software will shine based on its own merits yeah

in the free marketplace of programming languages

[zinc dew]

Wow that’s impressive

[cerulean elk]

I would say, of all the consoles that N64 emulation is probably the resource I use the least. Nothing feels “quite perfect” compared to the real thing / the core

[sullen harbor]

Yep

[neat hearth]

hmmmm

is that so

oh ok so the core is good

[cerulean elk]

there is something in all the emulation that just feels like 1% "off"

[neat hearth]

never had an n64 so I lack the reference I guess

[zinc dew]

Sounds like I’m not very educated about N64 emulation but this core was the first time where I felt like it was a complete replacement for my original system.

[sullen harbor]

I'm gonna say something weird but hear me out.
Parallel renders everything slightly off.

[cerulean elk]

weird would have been "I dress up as a question mark block and ask people to fist me for prizes"

you gotta get up earlier in the AM to make me consider something weird 🤣

[jovial briar]

hopefully not too off-topic but has anyone had a chance to try this out yet?

https://richwhitehouse.com/ki/

[magic girder]

Rust is a new shiny. In a few years people will have moved on imo 😅

[cerulean elk]

oh is it out?

[jovial briar]

considering KI: Gold is my biggest dissapointment on N64

just released in the last 24 hours

[cerulean elk]

ahh I had that on my list of "things to do when released" but its been a BUSY week

[plush summit]

Well looks like 4PM can't come sooner

[jovial briar]

for sure

[cerulean elk]

nah its Flycast V 2.5 for 4 PM

[jovial briar]

i cant swing another patreon paywall right now

[magic girder]

Flycast is really looking great these days

[jovial briar]

i have to audit all of the ones i have that i forgot about still

[plush summit]

Kaze will keep dodging us

his loss sucka

[sullen harbor]

See what makes it weird is that what it is is uncanny valley. You are noticing extremely minor differences that make you go this is a facsimile, I can tell and I dont know why.
People get weird when I tell them just how much of their responses are based purely on you doing constant vibe checks on literally everything without being aware of it @cerulean elk

[cerulean elk]

Sonic is stoked for it

[sullen harbor]

Flycast is great
Redream is actually still being developed but since its under lock and key it's been nearly 10 months since the last dev build

Oh yeah @cerulean elk you gonna try the real vmu/controller feature they put in recently

[cerulean elk]

I did this morning

garbage wired up a pico pi

[sullen harbor]

Someone is making a ribbon cable attachment to make it easier in the long run

[mint shadow]

Ooooo, I've been messing around with flycast on my modded switch recently, I wonder if the DCNet stuff works on it

[sullen harbor]

All flycast needs now Imo is built in shader support cause fuck retroarch

[cerulean elk]

I had a headered pico in my desk drawer so I shoved some female dupont connectors on and used a DC extension cable I had to finish it up. Worked for long enough for me to say "hey that works"

[sullen harbor]

Yeah

I actually love the dreamcast controller

[magic girder]

I’ve always preferred flycast over redream. Not sure why

[sullen harbor]

Flycast doesnt play well with high refresh rate monitors

[magic girder]

Good job I’m in the dark ages then

[sullen harbor]

Yeah... so... the problems I've had with flycast are mostly gone

But redream has a significantly better ui

There is a bit of an offness at times with flycast

[cerulean elk]

hah my studio monitors are only 60 so I am fine too

production monitors

[sullen harbor]

And it has to do with motion rendering

And I cant tell you why

Other than it's a perceptive thing with me

So @magic girder a thing I've seen help me on occasion with flycast is to enable full framebuffer rendering.
Its basically mednafen mode. No widescreen no upscaling but it can feel better on a game per game basis

[quick light]

(flycast mister port)

[magic girder]

I can’t remember what I have on, but I try to make it as close to original hardware as possible

So all the slow options but at original res

[quick light]

We going back to software emulation

[sullen harbor]

Yeah and redream has a version of that too arnrh

[magic girder]

I think I tried redream but hated the UI 😅

It was a long time ago. I don’t remember

[cerulean elk]

trying the KI emulator now

a tool comes with it to convert the rom and CHD to a new format. See if that works

[sullen harbor]

In the dev builds its listed as lle rendering for redream. It is not perfect but we'll probably have an update for it within the year

Also flycast is superior because you can play seaman on it

[cerulean elk]

God I suck ass at KI

Well…it works lol

[zinc dew]

omg cool

[cerulean elk]

Trying to figure out how to get into test to make it easier

You can tell the dev isn’t familiar with how you’d want to interact with dips and the test menu as those options are buried way too deep. They should be at the forefront

[desert crow]

it works if you're a patreon subscriber, too bad he doesn't release the code so you could fix ui.

[cerulean elk]

Got KI is cheap

Onto KI 2

well it works. Its KI and KI 2....so...thats cool? lol

hard to be excited about the product as KI = meh to me. But the tech works

[jovial briar]

nice

[cerulean elk]

Now I don't know...KI at 4 pm or Flycast V2.5

[sullen harbor]

Rich Whitehouse is endearing imo because his specific love of specific hardware
Oh look the random dude who made the Jaguar emulator for the Atari 50 collection got approval to do a standalone,
Proceeds to make the greatest Jaguar emulator ever
ALso his UI is incredible lol

Like the Jaguar has like 125 games across all regions and the CD addon

most people outside of mister just dont put in that level of effort for that small a library

I love it

[zenith notch]

I think Rich made the KI emulator because initially he was being paid to do so, not because of any particular love for the hardware.

[sullen harbor]

From what I've heard he's also trying to save up money to leave to his daughter and that's why he's pushing patreon pretty hard on this one

[zenith notch]

Patreon came after the client pulled funding from what I understand.

[sullen harbor]

yep

[cerulean elk]

I cant wait for the comments on it; "paid emulation...GO K--L yourself"

[sullen harbor]

jesus

[zenith notch]

All but inevitable really.

[sullen harbor]

I hate the internet sometimes lol

[cerulean elk]

haha I am used to it. It's gonna be my fault its on patreon

[zenith notch]

It's a pretty entitled community imho, not much respect for the talent of the people putting this stuff together and their time.

[neat hearth]

it's just people

[sullen harbor]

Well not exactly this group is small
The problem is they're loud

like the people who used to Threaten Stenzek on the reg because they thought he was the Aether SX guy

[zenith notch]

I wasn't saying THIS particular community was entitled btw, that's not the impression I get at all.

[sullen harbor]

I don't think anyone was thinking that its all good

[cerulean elk]

no people are chill here

and when I tell people in a MiSTer vid "report issues here, talk there" I warn them "and I sent you so behave"

[neat hearth]

I for one blame @cerulean elk for the superSEGA not coming out

(jk obviously)

[sullen harbor]

reminds me a lot of the guy on here who got booted because he started slinging insults at us for telling him there was a specific reason OOT and MM didn't use the Dpad and it wasnt "lazy devs who were spineless and subservient to their Nintendo overlords"

dude did not behave

he was also a fucking weirdo cause I found his twitter and whoo boy

[desert crow]

I'm ok with someone having patreon, I dislike when they paywall stuff though, and I hate when they don't share the code. We have a jaguar, core maybe we could learn something from the worlds best jaguar emulator.

[cerulean elk]

I do wish KI wasn't so...ill say it...ugly

[sullen harbor]

KI was always a fugly as shit series

[neat hearth]

what makes it ugly though?

[sullen harbor]

Bad prerendering on sprites

[neat hearth]

I'm not saying I disagree

but people loooved prerendered gfx

[sullen harbor]

Yeah but it can be done well or bad

Well is like... Rampage

Well I think the better way to describe it is

It worked better for Donkey Kong on the Snes, but that kind of rendering does not transfer well to humanoid characters \

with KI

[latent dagger]

That's not necessarily true

[neat hearth]

hmm

maybe

[latent dagger]

Mortal Kombat is in a similar vein of graphics

[sullen harbor]

Im speaking purely in terms of style btw

But those were photo captures

not models

[latent dagger]

The low resolutions are the killer for killer instinct I think.
If the game would be rendered at 480i minimum it might look better

But the over pixely but realistic detailed imagery rendered out at 240 just looks like ass

[sullen harbor]

I mean this an emulator for the arcade versions its 480

still ugly

[latent dagger]

I guess I also look at things from the lens of crt's making things look just a tiny bit better. Where stuff just kind of looks like ass when it's viewed in the raw form on a modern LCD

It just looks blocky and gross in this thumbnail capture as an example

[sullen harbor]

yeah

[cerulean elk]

She aint a beauty its true

[latent dagger]

Are you playing with composite?

[sullen harbor]

These are from Rich Whitehouse's screenshots

[cerulean elk]

so much shit has happened this week I am playing a shell game with myself to fit it all in

and Ive been up every night from 12-4am hunting this damn cat

running on straight cold brew and dreams

[lament escarp]

Are there tranq guns for cats?

[cerulean elk]

there are

If I didn't live in Chicago id order one

[sullen harbor]

The Cat ran off to see the new Chicago pope

[cerulean elk]

I got within 10' of him last night. But we have a new plan tonight

[lament escarp]

Get a big net to throw at him

[cerulean elk]

he keeps going to our neighbors door so they are going to leave it propped open with food inside. I am parked right in front of their house. So if he goes in I hop out and close the door. THen he is trapped on their porch

[lament escarp]

Or a gun that shoots nets.

[cerulean elk]

Ive looked at everything

if I could corner him I'd take the cut up arms from the claws and fight his ass but I havent been able to corner him

at this rate ill throw a jab and knock his little cat ass out cold for all the trouble he's put us through 🤣

[lament escarp]

Pepsiman is a dude, right? Get a female in heat and try that as bait.

[cerulean elk]

tried

[sullen harbor]

douse the ENTIRE neighborhood in Catnip

[cerulean elk]

our upstairs neighbors cat is an unfixed girl cat

we literally borrowed a chunk of pee litter

try to bait him into the trap with the promise of a little cat bang

[lament escarp]

Put a bounty on his head and talk to all the homeless people and drug addicts to follow through on a convoluted oceans eleven style plan.

Get the mob involved.

Ingratiate yourself with the don and the triads. Make your life like a GTA plot.

[strong flower]

Ya'll might like this

[cerulean elk]

Lolol

[latent dagger]

So is dude just ripping levels from Mario 64 or what?

[strong flower]

smh

[latent dagger]

😂

[restive bloom]

I remember that because I was there 🙂
Ah well, some people will be some people I guess

[restive bloom]

I for one love the chunky prerenders. But then again I guess that's an acquired taste.

I imagine CRT magic + its natural blooming helps hide things when played how it was meant to be originally, especially in the glowy effect sprites in particular.

[little socket]

nope, looked bad back then also but people were blended by prerender technology (I might compromise and say that the stages looked nice due to the tech though)

[mortal panther]

Great games... if you like watching shiny rubber action figures smacking each other around.

[vapid hawk]

it helps a lot when everything is constantly moving too

compared to a screenshot

[mortal panther]

Jago looked like he had a 3rd thigh for a neck. What was going on there?

[bright lotus]

Killer Instinct has infinitely more charm and memorable designs

than ANYTHING from Rise of the Robots

it helps that the games are great too

[restive bloom]

agree to disagree then ig lol

[stray void]

I might be crazy.

But Castlevania 64 has one of the best Title Screens, period.

[bright lotus]

if you mean the violin, oh reah that's a good arrangement of Divine Bloodlines from Rondo of Blood (PC-Engine CD)

[stray void]

Yep

I love the transition to the start screen too

Memorable opening

[warped cobalt]

To save time for anyone else who is looking for the download link for BigInstinct: It is currently a Patreon-only beta release. https://www.patreon.com/richwhitehouse

The N64 is no comparison to the arcade version. I think the arcade versions of KI1 and KI2 are beautiful, especially because of the backgrounds with pre-rendered perspective changes. And the sfx and music also slap.

[zinc dew]

Yah, I think it still looks neat.

I love Killer Instinct for how gaudy and loud it is,

[ivory laurel]

Was amazing seeing those cabinets back in the day. Fond memories of playing them with my brothers in the summer. I love both KI arcade games and also appreciate the snes and N64 ports, even gb port plays nice.

The VI deblur in the core brings back some of the pixelated sharpness in KI Gold. It really helps that game

[zinc dew]

My fond memory of playing KI for the first time was like 5 seconds into a match some asshole comes up, chooses TJ Combo, and just absolutely fucking destroyed me with a combo that takes out my entire goddamn health bar while I’m stun locked.

I was like great, I spent 25 cents to play for five seconds, GUESS IM DONE

[green epoch]

Bacon mentions it in their video but KI 1 was notorious for that shit.

[desert crow]

probably 50 cents

[zinc dew]

Yeah true

[hushed nova]

I remember some guy putting credits into the machine I was at, (KI2) and then proceeding to only try to jump in and eat my sabrewulf anti-air every single time

and getting more visibly frustrated with every failed jump-in

[bright lotus]

why are you all talking about Killer Instinct like it's freaking Mortal Kombat 1 and 2 in arcades I've experienced

where some tryhards also knew how to counter all my dive kicks

[mossy vector]

Well, KI had combo breakers.

[blissful plaza]

I always prefered KI & KI2 to MK1 & 2.

More fun.

[desert crow]

Anybody out there got the schematic for KI?

[dusty tusk]

I feel like MK is better on dpad as it doesn't rely on rotations much

[craggy cradle]

wait, people play fighters on analog?

[bright lotus]

I prefer Street Fighter on analogs because it's very easy quarter circle

[neat hearth]

I use a track ball

[craggy cradle]

but the travel distance of the analog, bruh

[zinc dew]

Ever since the arcade people went full keyboard for their games, anything is fair game.

Trackballs, joysticks, DDR pads? Fuck it, when you’re using cherry mx switches to play a goddamn fighting game, who cares what you use!

[neat hearth]

please don't tarnish the shmup scene with this slander

those are fighting bros

[craggy cradle]

fam, shmups aren’t special. Using leverless in my shmups too

[neat hearth]

yeah so do I

[hushed nova]

there's probably more people using keyboards to play shmups these days than any sort of dedicated stick/leverless

[zinc dew]

Finally when I get my own arcade stick you jerks are all like “nah, we using keyboards now”

[hushed nova]

but you can't pilot trains with a stick

[zinc dew]

Wowoweewaa

[stone pilot]

That's train U 2. I heard that train's conductor works pro bono.

[solar slate]

Nurbs!

[ivory laurel]

I’ve bought the online plus expansion for the Switch to play one of my brothers who is located Switzerland. Starfox looks so wrong, all the text looked bad and is also missing so much of the VI processing

The stars in the intro are just dots, no halos

[latent dagger]

That's cuz it's software emulation lol. It's not about accuracy, it's about making it playable and as cheaply as possible and then profiting

[lament escarp]

It's because Nintendo is your friend. Why else would it be like that?

[magic girder]

Bad software emulation*

[bright lotus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQlANmYdXBg

efforts from multibillion corpo that asks money for this

they're occasionally improving game-by-game but yeah

[lament escarp]

*asks money for this repeatedly.

[fossil umbra]

huh I wonder if Graslu has ever tried speedruns of PD or GE on FPGA

[restive bloom]

NSO N64 emulation is especially bad emulation

but tbh most N64 emulation... ain't great? lol
(certainly much more graphically accurate on PC for sure, but it still never runs quite right unlike... basically any other system tbh imo)

[mortal panther]

I have it on good authority that N64 emulation is a broken mess in 2025. 😏

[zinc dew]

You can ignore me, but I think it's fine.

I know I'm not helping the cause here but for most people it does the job. I am glad people hold them to task on it through. For a paid service it should be the best.

[green epoch]

https://tenor.com/bjU6d.gif

[zinc dew]

Yeah I 100% don't belong here lol

[green epoch]

bah

[stray void]

FPGA is magic

I prefer it to Emulation from what Ive used and Im 100% team FPGA now.

How is this crap even possible

[mortal panther]

The N64 core is the only way to fly.

[zinc dew]

It’s a different approach from software emulators. I’m not a programmer so someone please correct me if I’m full of shit but I’ve always got the gist that software emulation is written based on replicating software behavior. Which explains why some games seem to work well and others don’t, it’s overall a very inconsistent experience throughout all of development.

FPGA however focuses on replicating hardware behavior, which is slow going at first but as the core matures entire swaths of games and features just magically work instead of it being a piece meal approach to compatibility.

[stray void]

I appreciate it so much because I can just use one device and not deal with the retro game market

Last year I tried collecting consoles and I gave up

[zinc dew]

That’s me, I dealt with the retro game market.

I stopped collecting when I got my MiSTer

I still have, I think close to 4.000 games though

They just sit on a shelf not doing anything now lol

So I am a little bit jealous of people who just have a MiSTer lol

[stray void]

I sold all my retro games to save up and got MiSTer parts

I initially preordered a Switch 2, but cancelled it

And got into saving for the MiSTer parts, I mean.

[zinc dew]

Nice, smart move

[mortal panther]

I have to admit, FOMO had me wanting to pre-order the Switch 2 pretty hard... but the older I get, the more I'm trying to break myself of that. I think the PS5 is the last console I actively attempt to collect for. Getting a bit burned out on the whole hardware obtaining experience now.

[stray void]

Same. Sold my PS5.

[mortal panther]

I already have more games at my disposal than I'll ever realistically be able to enjoy for the remainder of my lifetime as it is, so I'm already set.

Well, I won't go that far. I already have them and I'm keeping them. 😄

Especially the 30th Anniversary edition.

I don't get rid of anything I already own. I still have my original Atari 2600.

[fierce girder]

4 whole games and nary a fraction!

[modern leaf]

All the launch games except like two are just games you could have played 1-2 years ago already on PC or PS5/Xbox. Really crappy launch when you look at the titles available.

[zinc dew]

Yes but one of them is the sequel to one of the best selling games of all time. It’s like when people complained about the original Switch launch. Who cares when you got BotW.

But uhhh, if you don’t care about Mario Kart then yeah, Switch 2 has nothing for you at launch lmao.

[mortal panther]

Unless you want to (re)play BotW/TotK at a (supposedly) decent frame rate...
...for additional money, of course.

Of course, you could do that now on non-sanctioned hardware. 😉

[zinc dew]

I really hope that a bunch of games with poor perf magically get improved. It should if it has dynamic framerate and resolution management.

[mortal panther]

It would be nice, yes.

[stone pilot]

Donkey Kong Bananza is probably Mario Odyssey 2 Starring Donkey Kong, so there's that too

[mortal panther]

Looks like Mario Kart World is going to be the system-seller for sure though. It does look gorgeous and looks like a lot of fun.

Even if there is no noticeable performance enhancement for some/most older titles, the larger form factor and screen should still make any title more enjoyable.

[modest helm]

I pre-ordered the Switch 2 for Donkey Kong Bananza so yeah there's plenty of people excited for that game. Waited 25 damn years for a sequel to DK64 lol

Excited for Mario Kart World as well

Fast Fusion looks good too

[stone pilot]

or did you wait 19 damn years for a sequel to Donkey Kong Jungle Beat

[modest helm]

Some Jungle Beat elements for sure and given that it's EDP yes, but thankfully I don't have to buy bongos this time

[magic girder]

Borderlands 4 confirmed to run better on Switch 2!

But seriously, I hope this is the case too. It’s one of my main reasons for buying the switch 2

Bad to pre-order based on hope, but I know all also buy most first party Nintendo games anyway so

[lament escarp]

Always remember you can cancel your preorder! I will if switch 2 isn't as I hope it to be!

[magic girder]

How will you know?

Nobody that gets one before release is gonna say anything bad about it

[hushed nova]

what if I purchase one specifically to say something bad about it? will that help?

[neat hearth]

I fear there are more than a few who set a 30fps cap and such.

[lament escarp]

On switch it would already be a huge win if the games stick to the 30fps cap.

[neat hearth]

oh dear

[lament escarp]

Some switch 1 games run like ass and I'm not afraid to say it.

[neat hearth]

you're never afraid to say ass

[lament escarp]

Thank you.

Hyrule warriors age of calamity runs at like 17fps or something.

So 30fps on that would be a huge win.

[hushed nova]

bad framerates, shit input latency etc. maybe the switch 2 will improve. kinda hard not to

[lament escarp]

Maybe it will get worse!

[little socket]

frames will be increased to a steady 18fps

[mortal panther]

Frame-octupled to 144!

[zinc dew]

On average sure but it dips down into the single digits. That’s not an exaggeration.

[lament escarp]

Yeah it's really bad. And given how it's an official prequel I'd like an official ns2 upgrade. Though Nintendo would probably take money for that.

[neat hearth]

my gods

I'd be ashamed and cry on television

fr

[lament escarp]

The first hyrule warriors that was developed for wii u actually ran at a 30-60fps on switch iirc? Way better than age of calamity in any case. Wild how they got the game running so badly on their only target platform.

[zinc dew]

Wii U was ~30, Switch was ~60

3DS ran at 20 I think, 30 with New 3DS

[lament escarp]

So basically age of calamity runs worse than the prequel on a 3ds.

[neat hearth]

really surfing the low wave of acceptability

Nintendo

[bright lotus]

I still wonder what's going on with that emulator for backwards comp and Doom Eternal

[lament escarp]

I think Robby messed up the switch port and now it won't run on ns2.

[little socket]

that would be so like him

[bright lotus]

I also wonder if they bothered porting NSO stuff or it's really emulating emulators

What's the difference in architecture anyhow

[neat hearth]

it's ARM

it should just run, so I assume it's just software level with an API shim or something

doubt there are direct HW registers

[cold pollen]

Yeah there's some sort of hardware translation layer or something I don't think it's considered traditional emulation

[zinc dew]

I hope GameCube isn’t a shit show

[mossy vector]

Oh, it was. the launch was too late to matter. But don't worry, they repackaged the internals into a white box and combined it with with waggle controllers and made billions

[zinc dew]

https://tenor.com/view/falcon-sam-wilson-outta-line-but-gif-22091662

lol I meant NSO

[knotty zealot]

uh hi

that was message number 100000

it just jumped from 99999

compare that number to systems fifty times better with fifty thousand less messages. wow.

[mossy vector]

Let us ponder the increment from 0x1869F to 0x186A0

[neat hearth]

nothing is arbitrary

symbols carry meaning

[mellow raft]

[lament escarp]

Yo, the 8bitdo usb adapter got a fw update to actually support their god darn n64 modkit. Works fine in switch mode, also reconnects without issues. The downside? No rumble at all. Welp, guess it only took 8bitdo 2 years to get their devices working together, so in another short 2 years we might get rumble.

[mossy vector]

Sigh. I'm not a big open source minded person, but 8bitdo's special sauce is in the plastic moulds and construction. If they'd only realize their customers would fix their firmware, for free.

[lament escarp]

Yeah, it's definitely annoying. But given how few good wireless options there are for a 3 prong n64 controller it's at least something.

[cold pollen]

also if they would pay attention to latency

I'd have to think if that could be fixed by firmware they'd have done it

[zinc dew]

I got an invite to buy a Switch 2 from Nintendo. Should I bite?

I have it preordered from Walmart and Target already. I assume they’ll get me the system faster.

[lament escarp]

If you have a friend that couldn't get a preorder in, sure.

[cold pollen]

I'd see if you have a friend who didn't get one

I'm waiting for an email so I can do the same, I have a friend that wants it

did you JUST get an email?

[green epoch]

Yeah, they sent more out today

[cold pollen]

dammit I still didn't get one 😭

I guess it's good I jumped on the Wal Mart opportunity

[green epoch]

Me neither, buddy. Me neither

[latent dagger]

Yeah no, if they did that nobody would buy their stuff anymore

[mossy vector]

complete that thought?

[latent dagger]

If you have the code for the firmware and you can open up the devices to see what hardware, then nothing stops you from just using alternatives for cheaper and making the firmware work with that

Nobody would buy their physical products anymore because they wouldn't need to

[mossy vector]

it's a wireless dongle. you'd still need to buy the controller. but alright, agree to disagree

[north cedar]

Good morning y´all!

Someone ported Wolfenstein 3D (and its expansions) to N64! Think you guys can make it work on FPGA? So far, it only boots on real N64 hardware.

Above are the files for those who may be interested in trying out.

[vapid hawk]

are you sure it doesn't work on the core? most things do

[north cedar]

Trying to post the download link here, but it keeps getting deleted.

[vapid hawk]

you probably wont be able to post it here if it has copyright material in it

[north cedar]

I can dm if anyone is interested

https://gitlab.com/n64squid/wolf64

this is the project link

You can also download the demos there

[bright lotus]

sure, lemme try

[bright lotus]

Works fine so far

yeah, no crashes, no issues

I still need to compile the most recent ports of Doom, now THAT crashes on demo playback on MiSTer

[lament escarp]

That's cool. Another win for mister!

[bright lotus]

this hassle better be worth it

[bright lotus]

nrrrgghhhh

what am I doing

screw this

I got a dirty way to do it, let's just say

[bright lotus]

Okay, first up and something I was meaning to check out for a long time

Doom 64 Complete Edition is wonderful and I can actually see the game

Thanks @zinc dew

[zinc dew]

You’re welcome

I asked Kevin Cloud about brightness and apparently some dumbass producer at Midway tweaked the default value before they sent the build off to manufacturing.

[magic girder]

Thanks @zinc dew

[mossy vector]

Name and shame

[neat hearth]

Jeff Midway

[bright lotus]

well, this is boring

looks like I am not making a ticket

64doom's previous releases crashed on MiSTer during demo playback

2.0 release from 2023 plays absolutely fine

no crashes during all demo loops

-# aside from iwads that are missing the fourth demo

and runs great

the controls are non-negotiably terrible though and cannot be configured into something I like on N64

and it is stupidly easy to input cheat codes like it's xbawcks

[bright lotus]

I could never compile from source but instead I patched the iwads with these .bps's from archive.org and renamed them into .z64's and all of them run swell

[bright lotus]

okay, since I am in the mood suggest me more N64 homebrews

[neat hearth]

portal 64

[bright lotus]

Oh yeah I tried that, works perfectly through and through

[vapid hawk]

its nice to see n64 getting more homebrew stuff

feels like forever there was none

[zinc dew]

I am optimistic that since the MiSTer has become more embraced by people and it has the best N64 experience outside of real hardware, that homebrew development is now a lot more accessible to everyone.

[magic girder]

Thanks @zinc dew

[iron wren]

Classicube, I think unk did some improvements recently to speed up the n64 port

[bright lotus]

thanks, I'll also compile Portal 64 from the community branch

https://github.com/mwpenny/portal64-still-alive

hopefully this project is perfectly legal

[zinc dew]

KI Gold tomorrow on NSO

[bright lotus]

first time using Docker

so far so good

[cold pollen]

Oh shit really?

[blissful plaza]

Finally!

[bright lotus]

Yeah recompiled libultraless Portal 64 is fine

[blissful plaza]

I tried KI Gold on the NSO, compared on the same screen and same controller with my OG N64 and the FPGA core.

Too much slowdowns, some missed inputs on the NSO.

The 2x resolution on the 3D elements is nice tough.

[lament escarp]

NSO is bad?! Why, I never!

[blissful plaza]

I tried without any opinions, the more neutral as possible.

[lament escarp]

Most hilarious nso release to me is still pokemon stadium. Why? How? That game is barely a game without gb connectivity.

[spare meadow]

I think KI Gold doesn’t have the love it deserves. It has its flaws but its such a fun game with an amazing soundtrack

Playing it on the Turbo core is pure gold

[zinc dew]

KI Gold kicks ass

[mortal panther]

Not on NSO. 😏

[neat hearth]

Nintendo Switch 2 Online

[torpid hamlet]

Sin and Punishment is very good on NSO

The MiSTer does not allow you to duplicate stick inputs between the left and right sticks

In fact, I wonder if that could be a thing for the core so I would switch to it instead of using NSO or original hardware for runs

[wanton sun]

what does the core not allow?
Please describe it better so I can judge if it's possible.
In general, using analog for buttons or opposite is easy. But if the game code itself is modified there is no chance without the modified game

[torpid hamlet]

So what I want is the ability to duplicate the stick between the left and right sticks of a modern controller

Currently, to my understanding, you can only move the analog stick to the D-Pad or the right analog stick, no mirroring

The reason why I want this is because for Sin and Punishment on Wii/Wii U VC and Switch, you have both sticks mapped to the N64 stick, allowing not only southpaw users to play but also allows seamless switching between right thumb aiming and left thumb aiming

[zinc dew]

Why would you need to do right thumb aiming and left thumb aiming

[torpid hamlet]

Because I aim better with my left thumb

I found myself to have much greater control when using the left stick to aim during select situations

[zinc dew]

So this is specific to your needs and only in specific situations?

[torpid hamlet]

Essentially yes

Sin and Punishment is the only game that would ever benefit from this, to my knowledge

[zinc dew]

Right, the way NSO implemented it was to mirror how you can do left or right handed analog stick

[torpid hamlet]

Been that way since Wii VC

[lament escarp]

Wasn't there an option in the core already to dual wield n64 controllers?

[zinc dew]

You could always use an N64 controller with SNAC or use a USB N64 controller clone

[iron dove]

thats for 1p2c like goldeneye

gets you the 2p analog on p1 controller

[torpid hamlet]

Yeah that sounds like GoldenEye and Perfect Dark's 2.X control schemes

I think the core might already have support for that but that's neither here nor there

[iron dove]

yeah ive used it

[torpid hamlet]

The alternative is to just buy a SNAC adapter indeed

Because while not ideal, on N64 I already just swap grips to quickly aim with the left thumb

[zinc dew]

Or a Saffun clone controller

[iron dove]

or n64 nso / the clones

[torpid hamlet]

My NSO controller has too rigid of a stick

Ironically, it's too well made, not worn down enough

[zinc dew]

maybe not ideal but it’s more accurate at least

Using the n64 controller, Not the rigid analog stick

[torpid hamlet]

The N64 NSO controller yes

[iron dove]

was gonna say, play mario party 🙂

grind that controller to dust

[torpid hamlet]

I was given that same exact joke lmao

Tempting...

I guess I'll buy a SNAC adapter, but I already dropped money on S-video cables

But I'll wait until further notice

[quick light]

I'm using clean HDMI. It looks amazing. But I'm having issues with resolution switching with games.

Such as Resident Evil 2 when I open the menu. I have made sure I am on the 4MByte of ram (as I know Resident Evil 2 likes to increase the resolution) .

I'm just wondering if there's a setting I have missed? Fixed video blanks are enabled and I use the vscale mode 4.

[zenith notch]

I use vsync_adjust=1 for any core or game that can regularly switch between 240p and 480i.

The black frame option form the sat and ps1 core would be nice to hide the junk in those switches too.

[quick light]

Hmm, I've not had this issue with either the Saturn or PS1 core.

[zenith notch]

You haven't described what the issue is exacty....

[quick light]

I did, but il type it again, no worries.

I'm getting resolution switches just with the N64 core. Have I missed a setting or toggle to stop the resolution switching. It's quite apparent in Resident Evil 2 when opening the inventory screen.

#1096015979055697940 message

[magic girder]

The game does change resolution afaik

[quick light]

Ah so nothing I can do unfortunately.

[zenith notch]

vsync_adjust=1

[quick light]

Oh that's what you meant? I'm sorry.

Il quickly just test that now then.

Is there a way of just having the N64 and N64 turbo core use the vsync_adjust=1? Without it affecting the other cores

[magic girder]

I think you can have it inside a specific config block in the ini file

[quick light]

Thank you both. Il have a look into it 🙂 much appreciated

[magic girder]

Probably something like:
[N64]
vsync_adjust=1

or whatever

[ornate obsidian]

Does RE2 really switch resolution if you disable the expansion pak?

[quick light]

Yeah.

[zenith notch]

[N64]
vsync_adjust=1

[ornate obsidian]

Oh I learned something new then, I was sure expansion pak enabled the 480i resolution, good to know!

[quick light]

Swapped the ram from 8MByte to 4MByte. It's just the inventory screen that changes. (If the expansion pack is enabled, then screen transitions can also have an increased resolution)

[zenith notch]

Add this to the bottom of the main mister .ini, same for whatever the turbo core is called.