Nintendo 64

[knotty zealot]

right

[cold pollen]

left

[native mesa]

Two wrongs dont make a right but two rights make a left

[knotty zealot]

i'm gonna leave now

[knotty zealot]

see you in pixel hell

https://tenor.com/view/jackie-chan-meme-what-confused-huh-gif-2775878942857993315

[cerulean elk]

Right? Give me a brand I trust

[modern sleet]

seeds of evil work now without sound?

oh the kiosk version works

[cerulean elk]

Interesting

[modern sleet]

Maybe it worked before... it didnt

[tropic sand]

@wanton sun Polaris snowcross... Freezes every time at this point (1st track) e000040

[zinc dew]

So today’s big wins are Mario 64 now fully working and Mario Golf is also working?

[fair stump]

If you're into mid games like Mario 64, yeah

[vapid hawk]

thanks for the YC build @modern sleet

[modern sleet]

@vapid hawk I enabled shadowmasks as well .. 🙃

🤫

[daring meteor]

Is it consistant now? It used to do that but randomally

[rapid condor]

is Mario tennis working now?

[chrome quest]

Nope

[rapid condor]

aw

[orchid nimbus]

RIP meme

[tropic sand]

Tried 2 times and froze. Tried another 2 times and OK. Still random I'd say

[orchid nimbus]

There updated

[viral portal]

Thanks Vampier

[daring meteor]

Guess just 1 month haha

[jade bay]

I got a crash on Goemon 64 after the intro still

80040?

Super Mario 64 intro works fine

Can play with the face and stuff

[weary palm]

indeed

[drowsy lantern]

Completed on Normal.

[cerulean elk]

Good to know. I’ll mention in vid

[tropic sand]

Twisted edge snowboarding now plays ✅

[drowsy lantern]

Other than the broken effect palettes, I noticed some slowdown on the character matchup screen when the opponent appears on screen, and also during the Gargos fight oddly enough.

[worn delta]

Mario 64 presumably completable now, is the only thing missing LOD implementation for the Peach/Bowser portrait?

[tulip coral]

i got 120 stars so yea fully completable without issue (except the known TLB crash ofc)

[zealous hull]

The former TLB crash. 😉

[tulip coral]

heheh yep

[lament escarp]

I wonder how complex tlb will be to fully implement.

[zealous hull]

I'm really surprised to see a TLB update with LOD and other things not fully in yet. Maybe a primative implementation just seemed to make sense to Robert?

[mild ether]

I hear Vivid Dolls is completable. Hope the list reflects it.

[zealous hull]

I wonder if this means we'll get further TLB updates the next few weeks.

[worn delta]

I am surprised Robert has gone for TLB before implementing LOD and the other one YUV(?)

Is LOD used in other games than Mario?

[lament escarp]

I completed it earlier today. It's a really fun game.

[worn delta]

I know you are joking, but may be worth people keeping an eye on the Aleck 64 games as these TLB updates come in

[vagrant ivy]

he not joking

they did play it to the end

[worn delta]

Can you get past the system menu now?

[zealous hull]

Yes.

[daring meteor]

Nobody knows hahaha

[zealous hull]

I tested it as soon as the update came out.

[lament escarp]

It's not a long game, especially as you can just chuck coins.

[worn delta]

Wow

[daring meteor]

And YUV biggest use is Ogre Battle 64

[worn delta]

Any other Aleck 64 games working now?

[zealous hull]

But I pretty much just made sure I got in-game. I didn't really care about seeing the "goods". lol

[lament escarp]

The sound effects are really fun.

[mild ether]

I will keep an eye. I am just not home today to test.

Star Soldier was working for a while

[worn delta]

Yeah that one has worked for months

[mild ether]

So is tower and shaft.

Nobody reported on Eleven Beat or Magical Tetris.

[worn delta]

Something else people testing, or at this stage just playing, could do at this stage is try out the revisions of games we know are working. There is a whole tab of those which presumably will behave like the tried and tested versions but we won't know until they are tried

[kind solar]

TLB!

[loud pebble]

Whoa!

[plush summit]

T-L-B! T-L-B!

[wanton sun]

yes

[wanton sun]

yes, e.g. in majoras mask. But as we currently see the maximum detail always, the only real problem is that texture that are more far have more noise

[zealous hull]

Haha, wow. Thank you Robert. This core is amazing.

[daring meteor]

Wait, isn't the texture in SM64 stuck on Peach, not Bowser?

[zealous hull]

I believe so?

[daring meteor]

Isn't Bowser the maximum detail level?

[wanton sun]

this effect is different from normal LOD

both have full size textures

[daring meteor]

Ah

[wanton sun]

not mipmapping

[viscid gate]

I got Magical Tetris Challenge working, but had to change the CIC that the database was setting and then reset (DB seems to be setting 6102, I had to set 5101)

Eleven Beat seemed to start OK

[daring meteor]

Yeah it needs to be updated

[wanton sun]

LOD can change 2 things based on "distance": first is the texture tile settings (e.g. memory address, texture size) which is typically used for mipmapping. The second is a multiplier for the color combiner. This is also used for mipmapping to blend two different detail levels. But also for Peach/bowser portrait, where the LOD doesn't change the texture itself, but just this combine factor

[daring meteor]

Got it, wouldn't be surprised if the function was custom for the game lmao

[wanton sun]

the LOD was only really made for mipmapping, which you can tell by the style it works: it doesn't check distance, but how many texture pixels are skipped with each pixel rendered on screen. Because of that, the peach/bowser portrait has a side effect: if you are at the spot where it's blending over and you look sideways, the portrait changes, even with the distance still being the same

[brisk drum]

IM HERE FOR THE TLB!

[daring meteor]

Huh, will do that sometime to see

[latent galleon]

is it too early to ask about fpga usage and full clock speed?

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah wanted to ask that too if the TLB affected anything

Or is the fact its not cached help?

[wanton sun]

the current TLB is not cached at all, so it costs barely anything. Maybe 200ALM or so

so each time a memory location is requested, the full 32 entries are searched, one by one

potentially increasing memory latency by up to 34 cycles

[zealous hull]

May I ask what made you want to start TLB? I'm certainly not complaining, but this seems ahead of schedule.

Are you just happy with the state everything is in?

[marble cargo]

Mario shaved his mustache.

[wanton sun]

i thought so much about in the last weeks how i could do...it was already in my mind, so i could also write it down 😅

the current state doesn't tell anything about the more critical path: TLB for instructions including instruction cache. That is still completly open

[marble cargo]

Has the FAQ been updated? You no longer need the "no face" patches, so I want people to be aware.

[cerulean elk]

Just isn’t right

[daring meteor]

Would that be on the critical path even if its uncached?

[orchid nimbus]

error screen has looked better

[oblique crow]

Robert, you listen to me right now - don't downplay anything you've done here. You are working magic, you're wizard 101'ing the hell out of this.

[twin barn]

robert's always humble like this

[oblique crow]

well I'll be hubris-sy for him

sudo ./RobertPride

[twin barn]

i'm happy you fit it into 200 ALMs

that is pretty compact for what it is

[zealous hull]

i'm happy. full stop

[wanton sun]

no, uncached could be slower if needed, because our average memory latency is faster anyway. But cached really needs to be there in the same cycle

[daring meteor]

Alright, so just the beginnings, yet you see the immediate effect hahaha

[orchid nimbus]

I'm alsoi very happy 🙂

[cerulean elk]

All I wanna do is play Paper Mario lol

[wanton sun]

uncached instructions are useless. For data it's not so bad, because not every instruction is a memory access, but for instruction it would be, bringing CPU speed down to a crawl, maybe 10%

[cerulean elk]

Which is so dumb because I have like a dozen ways to do it…but next playthrough is MiSTer time!

[orchid nimbus]

Mario 64 feels complete

[daring meteor]

But the peach portrait

[oblique crow]

CAN I GET-TAH GRAPH?!

A CHART-TAH EVEN!?

[orchid nimbus]

showcase updated

[latent galleon]

i'm just here for the mario golf

[orchid nimbus]

yeah will screenshot those next

[worn delta]

Thanks for explaining about LOD, that's really interesting. Do you think you will come back to LOD and YUV after TLB? Could space be an issue with LOD and YUV?

[orchid nimbus]

also the compatability tracker needs some updates 😄

I did super mario 64

I set it to completable

[hexed knot]

Got Mario Golf, pretty excited about that one.

[orchid nimbus]

@hollow rune time for you to shine 😄

[lament escarp]

Yeah let's panda stream!

[worn delta]

For all you keen Mario Golfers, here is info about how transfer Pak works with that one:
https://www.ign.com/articles/2000/03/04/mario-golf-transfer-pak

[cerulean elk]

If you stream today @near basin lmk. I’ll tweet it out!

[wanton sun]

yes, i will get back to them. For the moment it looks like everything should fit

[worn delta]

That's fantastic news 🙂

[wanton sun]

still at 83%, probably maximum 85% with TLB fully there

so about 5% left for the missing things, should be ok

[worn delta]

Wow, so if we are lucky maybe even room for 64DD disk loading?

[wanton sun]

is there anything to get that the ported versions can't do?

[worn delta]

I talked with the guys who did the ports and they don't think they work properly and wish they didn't exist, and hoped emulators would implemented disk loading now things were properly dumped

[chrome quest]

Mario Golf Transfer Pak confirmed working. Both on N64, and taking data back to GameBoy

[worn delta]

They are half done and broken it seems

[worn delta]

Good man, thanks for testing!

[mossy vector]

Pilotwings 64

[weary palm]

can someone pm me the header MD5 checksum of Portal v0.13?

[cerulean elk]

I believe there are some things that don’t work without proper disk loading?

[orchid nimbus]

how small will the yellow line be? 😄

[weary palm]

four-five?

[uncut gyro]

… including 24bit? 😄

it was such a revelation on PSX, even with CRT mask

[rapid prairie]

Today is the day.

[wanton sun]

24bit isn't really missing, it would be an extra feature. I don't want to plan with such things yet

psx core was lower clock and quartus could make it fit even with 97% usage. I doubt that would work with the N64 cpu clock requirement

when i say 83%, that is the value the logic itself needs. However, quartus uses more for routing:

so if we include these addionals, already 90.4% are used

[latent galleon]

so done by christmas, got it.

[orchid nimbus]

lol

[latent galleon]

just in time for your family to get you back

[orchid nimbus]

I'm going through all the 'no boots' on the list

so far it seems Mario64 and Mario Tennis are the ones that started working

[mild ether]

This is great news. Magical Tetris is one of the better games on Aleck.

[worn delta]

There any Japanese or Europe exclusives that require TLB?

[daring meteor]

RakugaKids

[mild ether]

That means the best games for Aleck 64 now work.

[inner garden]

gah this is weird. I saw someone replied with an n64 y/c build page but then when I try to find it, it's just gone. I can't even search for stuff I said and find the original message

found on Google

nope nvm I didn't

jk I did https://github.com/MikeS11/YC_Builds-MiSTer/tree/main/_YCConsole

[worn delta]

I think the latest y/c build is made using the previous test build, so won't have today's TLB updates

[tropic sand]

Twisted edge snowboarding now plays ✅

[mild ether]

There is a debug menu in Vivid Dolls also I have been waiting for it to work on MiSTer before checking out. Zoinkity mentions it in his notes.

[orchid nimbus]

@tropic sand I didn't get to the boots ones yet

I wanted to leave those for @hollow rune

[vapid hawk]

nah its been updated today

[mild ether]

No Aleck 64 TLB games?

[orchid nimbus]

@mild ether I'm only 1 man with 2 hands 😄

[inner garden]

it's ok I just want to see how F-Zero X is looking on my CRT with that force de-dither thing on

[mild ether]

Well whoever updates the database Vivid Dolls and Eleven Beat are TLB games that can be added.

[bronze tree]

It has an "ED" header, shouldn't that be enough?

[weary palm]

A bit worrying how much the characters in Perfect Dark itch their bums and grab their crotches. xD Like 5 times a minute.

[mild ether]

There's my queen.

[weary palm]

Oh, I didn't think of that... Well, doesn't matter 🙂

[ornate obsidian]

Does Perfect Dark still randomly crash?

[weary palm]

would think so?

[orchid nimbus]

yeah I cleared stage 1

[inner garden]

Is there any way to tweak the analog on my controller to make it more "within range"?

I am using Trio Linker II Plus with GameCube controller

but it moves too far

[orchid nimbus]

Aleck64 version

[weary palm]

It does have an "ED" header, but it doesn't set the rumble flag at 0x34 in ROM... 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

Erectile Dysfunction headers for Vivid Dolls?

[weary palm]

...or perhaps it does. I don't have the ROM. xD

[inner garden]

seems like the rumble does not work, even though rumble is supported by Trio Linker II Plus

I did set it to Rumble Pak in the settings and reset the game

[languid dune]

Holy crap! Some TLB is working now!?

[weary palm]

YES!

what a time to be alive

[orchid nimbus]

Killer Instinct Gold (USA) (Rev 2).z64

playable!!!

[lament escarp]

I see a fellow man of culture.

[inner garden]

Mario Golf running on Y/C build rn

[orchid nimbus]

I'm just going down the list 😄

[lament escarp]

No need to be shy. 😉

Vivid dolls should be the new smash brothers. Imaging vivid dolls crossovers with ciri from witcher, aloy from horizon and samus aran from metroid!

[orchid nimbus]

Beastwars TransMetal playable

[cerulean elk]

man I really do suck at KI

[orchid nimbus]

updated graph

so close to playable 😄

[chilly ember]

Tlb already? I must be dreaming still

[nimble needle]

Don’t forget single female Nintendo lawyer too!

[elder glade]

Does Mario 64 feel a bit slow to anyone else?

Amazing work btw

[worn delta]

Are you going to add Europe and ROW to that table @orchid nimbus ?

[orchid nimbus]

not me

I just cleaned up the format a bit

[random portal]

https://tenor.com/view/gwallahs-gif-24945047

we're closer to Conker's Bad Fur Day launching

unless my ROM doesn't work

[weary palm]

nah, it's not just you

[orchid nimbus]

@worn delta

[worn delta]

Nice

[cerulean elk]

man Twisted Edge feels like Kirkland brand 1080

[orchid nimbus]

Updated format a bit more

[weary palm]

Europe doesn't get to hang with the cool guys

[hollow rune]

I AM ON

[orchid nimbus]

@weary palm better?

So demanding

[hollow rune]

it

[orchid nimbus]

@hollow rune too late sorry

I already tested the noboots and boots

[random portal]

Jet Force Gemini no longer grashes when opening options

maybe this was possible on a previous core already but I'm running through any rareware stuff I have

[worn delta]

ROW was tested the other day so may be worth checking those no boots and boots again on the fresh build

[orchid nimbus]

it still crashes with an GFX code

[random portal]

oh I have error codes disabled

[orchid nimbus]

I just updated the colors too - it now looks like it's always been there

[worn delta]

Also if anyone is itching to test then the Revisions tab has been pretty overlooked last I checked

I need to clean up the Transfer Pak tab this week really, be good to get that one looking less placeholder and half cocked

[random portal]

oh sheeiittt, Vivid Dolls boots now

👀

[orchid nimbus]

yeah perfectly playable

already finished stage 1

[worn delta]

Would be nice to keep the system test for TLB updated as well as new builds come in, that takes a few seconds to run

[lament escarp]

I completed it.

[hollow rune]

In Brian's name, MARIO GOLF !!!

[orchid nimbus]

yup

[cerulean elk]

got the Turok 2 kiosk demo running

gotta load OG Turok 2 and let it fail first

[random portal]

damn I thought this game was fap bait but it progressively reveals more

[orchid nimbus]

Mario Golf?

[random portal]

yeah

those hole in ones

[orchid nimbus]

So hot

[random portal]

if you get enough birdies, it's over, horny jail

Xeno Crisis no longer shows company logo after a reset it does

[hollow rune]

Mario Golf stream this week

[cerulean elk]

Capturing Mario golf now...then to edit

smoked my opening shot

Birdie baby

[whole yarrow]

Mario 64 now feels great

[cerulean elk]

they should have called them Birdos though...missed opportunity

[barren zinc]

I realized as a young perv that I would someday be an old perv.
I embrace it.

[lilac scroll]

Does the unpatched Mario 64 rom work now?

[hexed knot]

Hmm, keeps saying my Mario Golf GBC save is corrupt. Don't need unstable main for transfer pak stuff, eh?

[daring meteor]

Did you do the save conversion

[crisp monolith]

Yeah

Just tested it.

[lament escarp]

Got vivid dolls done? If you're using my joke I gotta tell my mom she won't believe I made it to YouTube!

[cerulean elk]

I will see how it uploads

[worn delta]

With Aleck 64, are there raw dumps of those games and what format are they in? Wondering what it would take for native support rather than conversations. Anyone well versed in these?

[hexed knot]

I did not, do you have a link to directions for that? Didn't see anything on the FAQ.

[daring meteor]

I don't know if there's an easy way so far

[chrome quest]

#1096015979055697940 message
Could try the tool? Not sure if it would work, I did the GB TPAK into the SAV file manually

[hexed knot]

Bookmarked, I'll give it a shot. That doesn't look too bad.

Thanks!

[arctic sky]

Where can I purchase the snac for the core ?

[orchid nimbus]

I know a guy who knows a guy

@arctic sky where you located, US?

[arctic sky]

Yes

[lilac scroll]

We don’t deserve Robert

[orchid nimbus]

https://misteraddons.com/ @arctic sky

[arctic sky]

Is it snax only ? Guess I gotta get the adapter too

[zenith orchid]

I only use snac for lightgun games. I've yet to see a difference with USB controllers that have less than half a frame of input lag

[zealous hull]

I feel as though this is a unique situation, though. I ordered a SNAC for CPak/TPak saves.

[arctic sky]

So Snax is the way the go it sounds like

[zealous hull]

Correct, I don't believe SNAC supports N64. SNAX does.

I use the terms interchangeably. I shouldn't.

[arctic sky]

Ok thank you

[zealous hull]

At least, going by the website, that's what I thought.

[novel junco]

Here I was thinking "Vivid Dolls" was some sort of fighting game

[weary palm]

Yes, it's a beat 'em up

[zealous hull]

Nevermind, yours is better @weary palm

[weary palm]

xD

[spare meadow]

Just trying the Shindou Improvement pach for Mario 64 but some Mario’s voice seens too fast. Anyone had this issue?

[random portal]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-happy-easter-gif-25371743

[manic basin]

"Hey, let's go to Reno."
"Why?"
<spins revolver> "No reason."

Oh wait, that's Johnny Cash not William Bonnie.

[knotty zealot]

gif of the day if you ask me

[dawn halo]

anyone know when snax64 is expected? I'm not sure if Misteraddons announced anything

I'm kind of waiting for that before getting into snac

[manic basin]

It's a good call. Because you'll buy EVERYTHING once you do.

So best to wait until the 'next best' is out.

[zealous hull]

Haha, I literally just bought the standard SNAX setup a few days ago. What is SNAX64?

[wanton sun]

4 port

[zealous hull]

Ah. Nothing I'm very concerned with then. I mainly only play it with 1-2 people at most. 🙂

[dawn halo]

it'll still have the other limitations in terms of how many players just with the exception of 4 for n64

[manic basin]

Yeah, and with Snax you can map 1 and 3 I believe. I need to try it. But that's the only thing I'd use the extra controllers for above 2. Pod Racer.

[mossy needle]

MisterAddons said on his discord channel yesterday he is not sure of an exact date yet but guesses about 3 weeks

[random portal]

4 port? I can finally dock 4 trident shaped ships

https://tenor.com/view/n64-nintendo64-gaming-controller-controller-video-games-gif-17652803

[zealous hull]

That's sick. I'm glad people that want that option are getting it. 🙂

[manic basin]

"By 1996, we fully expect people to have evolved a tiny third hand in the middle of their chest."
Nintendo R&D, 1993

[lament escarp]

So did I.

[worn delta]

Is there going to be an open source 4 player SNAC adapter that for example Nat who runs the UK MiSTer parts store can get made and sell?

[elfin depot]

Indeed you can

[random portal]

are those the McDondal's kiosk seats?

[fringe sigil]

Same here😂 I asked why they didn’t clean it off and take a new pic a while back, was supposed to be adressed in a video, but I think I must have missed the vid that explained why it would still continue to be the dusty one😂

[elfin depot]

I wish! No they are Ikea, Red and Blue but we swapped the seats and legs so they are kinda Mario themed, they are the perfect height for my red tent

[mild ether]

Nice cart.

[modern sleet]

Pfft, I had it updated before 7AM PT 😉

[mild ether]

I got a cart I call the Sony Wegan

[modern sleet]

The core was building before I even got out of bed haha

[elfin depot]

I love AV carts, I have two matching ones and then my Batman one

[random portal]

ah ok, that's still pretty rad!

[mild ether]

Those are fancy ones. I just use harbor freight service carts with the top shelf fliped.

[weary palm]

Pooh

[random portal]

damn I never though about that

[languid dune]

I used to be really good at KI Gold, but it's been so many years since I touched it that I don't even remember half the moves or mechanics anymore!

[chrome quest]

Same hope here, just for import, delivery etc. Though it is great MiSTeraddons does delivery all around.
I guess beyond the 2 port, I think Densha de Go! 64 is the most demanding right?
Microphone port, the unique controller, and TPAK in the translations, plus who knows what else

[cerulean elk]

giving the audience what they want 🤣

[fair stump]

The audience clearly wants vivid dolls

[cerulean elk]

I am seeing if it passes checks

now

[chrome quest]

Yeah Densha de Go! is max all.
Port 1 N64 controller for menus, Port 2 TPAK (cus why not), Port 3 Unique Controller, Port 4 Microphone. At least 3 in use for the ultimate experience. Dang

[deft tree]

What does the transfer pak do for densha?

[worn delta]

Transfer Pak would be in controller on port 1 on SNAC, so port 2 would be empty

[cerulean elk]

nope sorry kids...it says its gotta be 18+ even with just the first bits

not happening today

[chrome quest]

Just unlocks course without needing to play to make progress. Nothing major, just a fun little addition to the translation. They seemed to make every effort to get every odd N64 feature in. The 64DD even gets unique menus if plugged into the N64 apparently

[languid dune]

The worst timeline!

[cerulean elk]

ill try in the future but I dont have time to recut today

[worn delta]

Yeah, I wonder if after everything else is done Robert can see if there is a way to spoof the core into thinking a DD is attached and have that as a menu switch

[random portal]

It turns out they never had dedicated seats. I guess my brain filled that in.
at least non that I could find

[elfin depot]

Grail setup

[zinc dew]

Was the issue with launching games with mgl fail to load the controller pak save been fixed?

[languid dune]

Unlocked Luigi in Mario Golf. The guy's a chump!

[lament escarp]

Too bad... was really looking forward to it.

[random portal]

this, but minus the french fry and ketchup stains

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun you brightened my kids day today. They just had a blast playing with the Mario face and making a ton of goofy faces. Thank you for your hard work!

[languid dune]

I've always loved how you can heckle the other players in Mario Golf 64. Why did they have to remove that feature in later Mario Golf games!?

[lament escarp]

Vivid dolls also works now. 😉

[zinc dew]

lol NO

[lament escarp]

Yes!

[languid dune]

lol perfect for the kids!

[elfin depot]

And broken controllers:

[lament escarp]

Already finished. And completed the game as well.

[random portal]

all I remember were sunken buttons and wobbly analog sticks

[elfin depot]

Thankfully nothing special about them, just regular components in a plywood (usually) box. Lots were upgraded to Gamecubes

[cerulean elk]

it was just you wasnt it?

[zinc dew]

I did play it a bit at first lol

[cerulean elk]

same lol

Mario Golf is where its at though. Def playing that tonight

[zinc dew]

Man I loved that game and the GBC one

[random portal]

damn, I don't remember the Gamecube ones. Maybe only the chains in the nice areas got them.

[cerulean elk]

locked and loaded for 4

KI/Mario Golf/Turok 2 Kiosk demo/Beast Wars/Mario Face pull/Budget off brand 1080

[random portal]

Budget off brand 1080

That better not be referring to Twisted Edge, the clearly superior snowboarding game 😏

[cerulean elk]

Kirkland Brand 1080

[cerulean elk]

Wrong Bad Boys Kick Your Ass Play

stop writing about Ass Play

[neat sierra]

Yeah my thought too

Some sexy advertising

[random portal]

🤣

[cerulean elk]

lol today's thumb is the "sexy advertising"

Midway knew what they were doing!

[neat sierra]

The artists did character movement studies at the local strip club

[eternal ravine]

I like Mario in Golf as far back as the FDS
I had that "U.S. Course" edition

[elfin depot]

I remember both but only at "the big city" McDonalds, my local small town McD's never got them.

[zinc dew]

Oh shit Killer Instinct!

[random portal]

me too

[random portal]

What games were at your kiosks? I only saw Disney games.

[elfin depot]

I can't really remember, thats was many years back

[zinc dew]

It’s awesome!

[random portal]

I didn't think people were this dedicated to an older WWF game, but check this out. Only 3 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1KFqqAeMD8

[tender pine]

Quake 64. When I press back on the analogue stick Quake Guy takes a jump back. This feels wrong, like the controls aren't functioning correctly. Am I right in thinking this or is this actually correct? Please?

[elfin depot]

What controller are you using?

[random portal]

try remapping control

[elfin depot]

Might be going out of range

[dusty tusk]

I once saw a little kid take out a pocket knife and start stabbing a Nintendo DS screen in a Walmart. Some kids really need parents.

[elfin depot]

oof....

[tender pine]

OEM N64 controller via Raphnet v3 adapter.

[elfin depot]

Have you done the controller range test to check the values? Though being OEM it should be ok (85 or under)

[tender pine]

I've done that test. It's pretty bang on. Not far off a new controller.

These were my results.

[zenith orchid]

so nice to finally have KI, it's really a lot of fun

guess we don't need no_face patches for sm64 anymore. that era is finally behind us

I had a feeling that KI's use of TLB is very basic. it's really just character movement.

[random portal]

lemme get that ROM

[zinc dew]

Yeah, it would always crash when the match started

[latent dagger]

@zinc dew so, is TLB implemented then? At least to a degree. Enough to update your pinned post for the part regarding TLB.

[vapid moat]

Dammnn, I missed the legendary hours

I need to test some Mario 64-romhacks I wanted to play now that TLB's been partially implemented

[zinc dew]

Ah you’re too kind, thank you for the reminder. I updated it earlier today but let me know if you feel the wording can be improved.

[desert crow]

yeah I'm doing an open source one. haven't released it yet though.

[latent dagger]

I just looked at it before saying something and thought it looked exactly the same as before... Maybe my brain don't work

[vapid moat]

Gonna be here now waiting for Turok 2 to be playable soonish

[latent dagger]

I guess I am reading "not fully supporting hardware features such as TLB" as being the same as just saying the core doesn't support TLB

[lament escarp]

The core supports tlb in a very basic and incomplete manner as far as I understood.

[oblique crow]

My sibling in mister, there are ways to play Turok 2 now

[vapid moat]

Get that shit outta here, WE'RE OG

(JK, this remaster's incredible)

[oblique crow]

haha

[hexed knot]

Looks like you could probably bring a max of 3 characters in from GBC Mario Golf, since you can only create that many, and the save injecting method seems to overwrite the characters you've already imported.

[solemn marlin]

Random crash when honking in the wooden tunnel in the overworld in diddy kong racing, latest build

[daring meteor]

The save injecting method shouldn't affect N64 save

[hexed knot]

Hmm, possible I did it wrong then. Will retry.

[oblique crow]

This made me laugh loudly.

[stone cobalt]

Any commercial Snac adapter for nintendo 64 yet?

[vapid moat]

[random portal]

Is it safe to leave all four controllers with the Controller Pak setting enabled by dafult on boot?

[oblique crow]

Why would that be unsafe?

[random portal]

I have no idea, that's why I wanna be sure 😆

[oblique crow]

Lol - I think that's fine

"Guys is it safe to poop in the toilet"

"I dunno... might have toilet snakes"

"Good point!"

[random portal]

clearly, you don't know about ghoulies

[mild ether]

Brown snakes, big ones.

[solemn marlin]

Lol that's why I posted, thinking about some horrified gamer being denied his tunnel honk. Can't recreate tho, sorry, it was the hacked fps build of dkr so it's probably nothing

[vapid moat]

B3313 0.8 doesn't sadly work

Gonna try 0.7 next

[daring meteor]

B3313 doesn't work on console

[plush summit]

older B3313 builds work to an extent

[oblique crow]

https://misteraddons.com/collections/parts/products/hdmi-controller-adapters?variant=40250232832133 ?

[vapid moat]

Yeah - 0.9 to 1.0 don't work

[dusty tusk]

Luckily there's a hack to just add the gameboy characters

Someone didn't get the memo on Kid's race however...

[random portal]

diversity

[dusty tusk]

Realistically I think they're covering their asses for a bit of a racist depiction

[random portal]

Rakuga kids still crashes where Killer Instinct Gold used to crash

[dusty tusk]

Changing the skin, then removing the lips

Surprised this didn't get caught in testing

[random portal]

Don't Japanese people give plumpy lips to their characters?

[dusty tusk]

I think the problem is he was designed black first

[random portal]

ah yeah, good point

[dusty tusk]

And got "fixed" in the gameboy version

And looks like this in the gba version

[random portal]

dinosaur planet used to have a character falling into a void (both enhanced and regular)

[random portal]

just regular 'ol light skinned boy

[dusty tusk]

Yeah, they completely redesigned him

Also, don't sleep on mario golf minigolf, fun times

[cerulean elk]

2 min to TLB shenanigans

and loose

[dusty tusk]

Apparently Kid is loosely based on Tiger woods as a child prodigy

[chrome quest]

Notionally you'd get all 4 with at least 2 GBC games. I'm not sure the core can hot swap TPAK for Port1 though. Another TPAK would also work

[hexed knot]

Yeah, seemed like the way I was operating the tool, I was overwriting characters that had already been imported. Seems like for the case I wanted, the ips was easier.

[solemn marlin]

Wait you can stretch mario's face now?

[languid dune]

I did the deed so nobody else has to. Vivid Dolls is in fact completable. Now let us never speak of it again!

[solemn marlin]

Soo uh you played it with "dual analogs"?

[languid dune]

I used the d-pad! The d-pad!!

[solemn marlin]

Some twin stick action if you catch my drift 😏

[fair stump]

I'll stick with other qix games like a good Christian boy

[chrome quest]

Mario Golf is maybe a good canditate for going between GB and N64 cores, more than Pokémon in some ways. No GB Tower, and seems the idea is to transfer specific RPG characters as levelled up, get EXP (hard to scale past the end of the GBC game apparently, but N64 tournaments can help the GBC character level up).
Seems neat

A hack to just use the 4 player sprites is cool, but seems to miss alot of the appeal of custom characters

[short hill]

Camelot games made both the first hot shots golf for ps1 and mario golf. One of their designers then continued the hot shot series for playstation at his spin off company clap hanz

[random portal]

https://tenor.com/view/running-puppies-dogs-stampede-so-many-puppies-gif-14815916

[cerulean elk]

oh man I could go for chips

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/cream-cheese-cpu-gif-22295119

[fair stump]

What's the flavor of the spread there? Sour cream and onion?

[orchid nimbus]

creamcheese

[random portal]

those TLB chips do hit different

[stiff condor]

So is SM64 playable unpatched now and can I use the same save?

[compact depot]

Yes and yes

[stiff condor]

Thank you and thank you

[paper crescent]

I think it's MacGyver flavored.

[stiff condor]

I've never seen such a perfect amount of thermal paste

[cerulean elk]

I went and got chips

[random portal]

what kind?

[cerulean elk]

Cape cod kettle

[random portal]

must be some east coast chips. I've seen this brand called kettle

also, guys, I finally found out what TLB stands for.
True Liberty Bags

store your MiSTer FPGA stack sammich and preserve your preservator

[cerulean elk]

Fool doesn’t know good chips!

[random portal]

If I ever come across them, I'm gonna try them out.

is the Kettle core it was cooked in cycle accurate?

[compact depot]

Wife loves that shit

[cerulean elk]

They are the best

[compact depot]

They are indeed

[elfin depot]

All I can hear in my head now is the guy from Newfoundland I worked with pronouncing it "Kawd"

[cerulean elk]

Haha yep. Same down in Mass

[left depot]

Kettle pepperoncini chips ftw

[mortal panther]

@cerulean elk It would have been hilarious if, during the showing of Turok 2, you said "So listen for 45 seconds and I'll be back with more games"... and it's just absolute silence. 😉

[cerulean elk]

Haha I’ve considered that before as a joke

Issue is most people don’t get jokes

[stiff condor]

I honestly probably wouldn't notice

[cerulean elk]

The reality is 9/10 of my jokes don’t get noticed because I don’t telegraph them or really let on I’m having fun with things

[stiff condor]

I love dry humor

Like doing your intro as fast as possible on a video would be hilarious.

[dreamy kayak]

yey fow mowio sixty fowr

[zinc dew]

more like Super Mario 32, amirite

[empty cliff]

yo I'm hearing a little sumpn sumpn about tlb

is this true

[zinc dew]

who's askin??

[empty cliff]

when we say partial do we mean.. it's started but no extra compatibility

or are we talking... it's time to start playing paper mario

[zinc dew]

time to start playing Mario Golf and Killer Instinct!

[empty cliff]

nice

[zinc dew]

also you don't need the no face patch for Mario 64, it woooooooorks

[empty cliff]

I get to pull mario's face before I okey dokey

it's interesting that the mario party face pulling games didn't use tlb

what was it even used for

[inner garden]

I wonder if the Mario Golf trees and the Yoshi’s Story blob things are the same problem

[oblique crow]

I grew up in Cape Cod

in Chatham

[cerulean elk]

Nice. I’m from Vermont originally

[elfin depot]

#1096015979055697940 message

[oblique crow]

But you're not in Vermont.. now... right?

My theory that no one lives in Vermont continues to be true.

[empty cliff]

ahh interesting

[orchid nimbus]

these crazy testers 😄

@weary perch you're crazy 😄

[empty cliff]

ohh turok 2?

cerebral bore time

[prisma ivy]

Sorry what is this showing us?

[trim seal]

Damn, guess the little testing I did has been superceded :p

[prisma ivy]

Running update_all now

Here we go

[zinc dew]

Oh yeah I forget to update the spreadsheet

If only someone would pin it

[cerulean elk]

Lol I’m in Chicago but my family and wife’s family still live there

[prisma ivy]

Strange. Does the B button do nothing in KI Gold?

[oblique crow]

Nice, I live in Ohio now but funnily enough - I work for Wintrust 🙂

small world

[prisma ivy]

Boo, too bad KI Gold likes to change resolutions or something at the beginning of each fight. My screen goes black 😦

[orchid nimbus]

USA testers of the whole library ... username and ROM test count (based on the last tester)

[prisma ivy]

Ah I see

[trim seal]

Errata: When Robert said one game, he meant one game library. Sorry for the inconvenience.

[orchid nimbus]

here is the latest graph

eh

it's not 😄

one moment

sorry about that 🙂

[oblique crow]

MAH CHART-TAH

[orchid nimbus]

see that yellow line?

[fair stump]

[weary palm]

Is it racist that he has lips?

[twin barn]

you might not be aware, but that kind of design of the lips is archaic, yes.

[vast delta]

Huh, lips are now racist then eh?

[twin barn]

i'm not going to debate this with any of you

[vast delta]

What's next? Brows?

[weary palm]

How would one draw a person of color?

[twin barn]

maybe ask people of color

in off topic

now

[trim seal]

It's a traditionally racist depiction in western media, there is no debate, it's well worn and embarassing history at this point.

Oops. Leaving it be.

[vast delta]

Isn't this character design the very definition of Eastern media though? Given it's media created in Japan

[twin barn]

#spicy-off-topic I will educate you there

[vast delta]

No thanks, not looking for education from enlightened americans/europeans, which is what western means to you. I agree that this topic should end here.

[twin barn]

lmao okay buddy

[stiff condor]

I'm having trouble applying Majora's Mask widescreen patch to Majora's Mask Redux.

[quasi storm]

I wanna point out that we are in fact not crazy, just passionate.

[zinc dew]

Crazy passionate!

❤️

[weary palm]

Are you using Patcher64+

[stiff condor]

No, I tried an online patcher because I don't think Patcher 64 runs on Linux

[weary palm]

@knotty zealot Bet you can't wait to play this: http://n64vault.com/ge-for-fun:dwayneye-64

[weary palm]

Right, it doesn't

[stiff condor]

I suppose I could break out the old Windows laptop

I think I'll just play Portal 64 instead

[weary palm]

I can help you with the patching if you want

[elfin depot]

It's fun (portal 64), amazingly enough I still had a steam account from 2009 which had record of my copy of portal, so I was able to redownload it and generate the ROM.

[weary palm]

I only got Portal 2 😄

[elfin depot]

My copy of portal came as a pack in with this:

[weary palm]

how do I check when my account was created?

[languid dune]

Speak for yourself! I'm as crazy as they come!

[stiff condor]

That would be cool, I just wanted to see how well it worked

So I really did not like the controls on Portal 64 at first until I turned on the tank controls and the inverted controls and I like it way better.

[weary palm]

My Steam account is from 2007 🙂

@stiff condor I've patched it now... let's see.

[stiff condor]

And I beat Portal 64

[weary palm]

Is it that short of a game?

[stiff condor]

It's not finished

It's it's exactly like portal and I realized that portal is extremely easy in the beginning, especially when you played through it in multiple times

My only thing is I wish the portal buttons were flipped

[vapid hawk]

how many test chambers are in now?

does it end at the ||cake is a lie|| one?

controls are configurable afaik you can go switch the portal buttons

[stiff condor]

It's only got 12 or 13 chambers. I didn't actually count but it's still very early

[stiff condor]

I'll have to check to see if it's an option

[weary palm]

It's open source 😉

[stiff condor]

Yes yes I know. But then again I have negative knowledge of programming

[weary palm]

ah

[vapid hawk]

i kinda want them to make the portals blue/green to match the n64 buttons

[weary palm]

But... but... Linux? 😉

[stiff condor]

The Linux conversion was only just recently

I'm still learning Linux, I'm just a baby penguin

[vapid hawk]

i really hope they finish the whole game, i'm pretty sure thats the plan

[stiff condor]

He's actively working on it

[vapid hawk]

it'll be like, defacto one of the best n64 games

[stiff condor]

Do you follow him on YouTube?

[vapid hawk]

yeah there's a few people working on it now, multiple commits per day

yeah he posts neat youtube stuff

[stiff condor]

I want to dabble in making Super Mario 64 ROM hacks but the main software only runs a windows and I did find software that runs in Linux but it needs an extended Super Mario 64 ROM which apparently you need a Windows program to make

[weary palm]

What software is that?

[stiff condor]

The one on Linux?

It's called Bowser's blueprints it doesn't look like it's been updated in about a year, but the first thing it asks for is the extended ROM so I need to figure out how to get one of those first

[empty cliff]

what's the deal with majora atm, stable?

[thorn flax]

it's never crashed on me

[weary palm]

playing it in 16:9 right now xD

[zenith orchid]

eh?

[weary palm]

sorry, wrong "Lord"

@stiff condor you got pm

...and now it crashed

[stiff condor]

Well that's no good

[weary palm]

feels like some memory overflow thing. perhaps they increased the framebuffer from 320x240 to 424x240. that's not free.

[stiff condor]

Unfortunate

[weary palm]

@stiff condor Wait, I had "Increase draw distance" enabled. That can eat up RAM too.

fingers crossed

definetly stabler now

[stiff condor]

I was reading there was a GameShark code to remove software AA

[weary palm]

you can do that from the core menu

or what do you mean by "software aa"

[stiff condor]

I'm not sure, that's just what I think it said

[weary palm]

Looks best without filters, right guys? xD

[eternal ravine]

You definitely get to see how low rez some N64 games are and how all the vaseline compensates

[stiff condor]

High-res textures when

[weary palm]

I'm in danger.

[storm vessel]

Search box isn't yielding me much but, wasn't there a pin or post about some widescreen patches?

[weary palm]

https://github.com/gamemasterplc/asmpatches/tree/master/N64
A few.

[fierce girder]

13 chambers is the name of a wu-tang/ fugazi mashup album

I’m pretty sure it has 12 currently. It failed to save when I was trying it on my everdrive so I have to start over, I’ll probably wait for 1.0

[lament escarp]

Read asmr patches at first and got really excited

[weary palm]

Yuck

[mild ether]

The Verge: You're hired!

[storm vessel]

Thx. Those are N64 core specific patches aren't they? I mean, like not permanent, but on the fly patches, yeah?

[mellow raft]

They patch the roms...

[storm vessel]

Oh I thought I saw something about on the fly patching instead of permanent patches

My mistake

[mellow raft]

The core has a "widescreen" toggle but it just increases the rendering space. If the game doesn't actually expand to use 16:9 (which no native game does) you have to patch the game to know how to render in widescreen

The "widescreen", of even the PS2 data was not widescreen.

Even Wii. It was still a 4:3 signal technically. It was the same number of analog lines. It was just squishing the output before it left the console as 4:3. You just always told your HDTV to stretch it afterwards.

[storm vessel]

So then one could say these patches aren’t necessary if the core has a widescreen toggle?

[mellow raft]

You could always play DVD's in "widescreen" on normal TV's because of this. There wasn't a digital limitation. All DVD's are 4:3 natively.

[mellow raft]

They are required. The core toggle does nothing without them.

The core can't know how to tell f-zero to move it's ui elements around.

All the toggle does is make the output 16x9. But the game is still rendering at 4:3 scale.

[storm vessel]

So one would need to apply a patch to a rom and also use the widescreen toggle then?

[mellow raft]

Yes.

[storm vessel]

Sweet. You’re really good at explaining things easily. Thx 😅

[mellow raft]

It's going to be a better result than the PS1 implementation which does a hacky trick. These are manual patches. The hud elements aren't improperly scaled on f-zero. Most of the time 2D elements get stretched with hacky widescreen implementations

[weary palm]

You can't "widen" an analog signal. It doesn't contain any Metadata about width or height.

So you're right. 😉

[mellow raft]

Downside is not every game may have them. But

1. Don't underestimate our community to want to cover every good game.

2. Not every game on PS1 worked with that hack either

[mellow raft]

Yeah trying to keep the details of analog vs digital out of the explanation haha

Trying to explain in lamens terms.

Basically the signal to the TV is always the same with any analog console output... It's a set standard.

All the consoles' widescreen feature did back in the day is pre-squish the game and then you'd "unsquish" on your TV to wider view.

I'm not sure if this core implementation is the same thing though.

[vapid hawk]

it goes way back to like, film reels in cinema too

the frames on the reel aren't widescreen, the lense does that

[mellow raft]

Yeah DVD's are all the same to your TV, widescreen DVD's or not.

That's why you could only ever have a widescreen video or non-widescreen video on a DVD. The video was physically squished on the DVD.

[vapid hawk]

there's various kinds of dvds, some are anamorphic widescreen (what we're talking about) some were cropped down to 4:3 (usually called pan and scan) and some were even letterboxed

[restive anchor]

well, it depends if it was anamorphic

[mellow raft]

You could have a mix but it was a different video file on the disc.

[restive anchor]

there was a lot of letterboxing

[vapid hawk]

it depends where you were too - widescreen dvds were much more common in europe

[storm vessel]

Is there also a page of PS1 patches?

[restive anchor]

I even have a dvd or two that is somehow anamorphic and letterboxed at the same time so it takes monumental settings fiddling to get it to display correctly

[mellow raft]

I don't think PS1 has the same implementation. The PS1 core just hacks with a general use widescreen hack.

Which may or may not give great results.

[vapid hawk]

ps1 core can do both, stretch to 16:9 and hack the game to try and render 16:9

if you're patching the game you can just use the stretch

[storm vessel]

Kind of like hitting the stretch button on 4:3 DVD on a 16:9 screen?

[restive anchor]

exactly like that in fact

[mellow raft]

Well not necessarily.

It does try to avoid stretching ui elements.

[storm vessel]

Did Robert do the PS1 core too?

[mellow raft]

Yes.

[restive anchor]

the hacky way yes, but there is a plain stretch afaik

[vapid hawk]

yeah i think the ps1 core only widens 3d elements or something, its much better than you'd guess

[restive anchor]

as well

[storm vessel]

So then maybe the n64 widescreen implementation is his evolution of it?

[mellow raft]

The difference with PS1 is use either or. Not both. Hack the game with a popular PS1 widescreen hack. Doesn't have to be mister specific.

Or use the widescreen toggle.

[storm vessel]

Then that would really vary per game.

Presumably

[mellow raft]

The N64 core opted for a more personal approach currently but it is a wip core. Who knows what may happen.

[vapid hawk]

i think something about how n64 works makes a similar general widescreen hack impossible

[mellow raft]

Gotcha.

[vapid hawk]

the mode in the n64 core is for use with seperate hacks, or just games that have a widescreen mode already

[storm vessel]

PS1 probably didn’t have many native widescreen games

[mellow raft]

So all it's doing is essentially squishing the output like a native game would do?

I see.

So yeah it doesn't actually achieve widescreen without the game supporting it natively, or use patches to force the game into widescreen.

[storm vessel]

That makes sense.

[mellow raft]

Kind of curious to try this out later. But good night

[empty cliff]

enough time to do the backflip glitch

[weary palm]

I died.

[quasi storm]

Or did you?

[weary palm]

No I woke up and it's three days ago again??

[daring meteor]

When is Robert gonna make TLB?

[weary palm]

Seems like I've met with a terrible faith

[hasty kayak]

its in progress 🙂

[pale granite]

are there any good romhacks that work with the core?

[eternal ravine]

I have waited for this day

[pale granite]

I tried the Mario64 60fps but it doesn't seem to run

(granted it may not work on real hw either)

[mild ether]

Soon™

[weary beacon]

It was a pleasure to delete the no-face patched rom!

Next Perfect Dark?

[final walrus]

B3313 still isn’t working. But it got past the title screen now!

[native mesa]

I prefer the no tlb perfect dark patch honestly for performance reasons

[weary beacon]

This patch is buggy and for nostalgia I prefer to play like the OG hardware with low FPS...

[rustic fulcrum]

B3313 doesn't work on real hardware, does it?

[daring meteor]

There could be a "minimal" version of the patch, but by the time I'll compile it Robert will be done so no need to bother haha

[weary palm]

B3313 is shit

[final walrus]

So is Bryan64, and still people want to play it

[final walrus]

true, but the jury is still out if it's just because of the large ROM size that the current flashcarts are unable to load

[lament escarp]

Quest 64 is an awesome jrpg and we will defend it!

[weary palm]

How big is it?

98MB was a number I found. You would have to do bank switching on a real N64, as it can only address 64MB at a time.

[daring meteor]

Isn't our limit 120MB?

So we're good

[final walrus]

I mean yeah, and it evidently loaded up as you can see in my screenshot 😄

[vapid hawk]

sadly it seems to be bugged

some scripting in one of the later levels breaks so you cant finish it

[daring meteor]

The patch?

[vapid hawk]

yeah

[daring meteor]

Maybe the minimal patch is worth it than haha

[cerulean elk]

modern post-pandemic sentiment achieved lol

[weary palm]

Yes, seems I'm in the wrong here. It can address 2GB?

[daring meteor]

What can adress?

An N64?

[weary palm]

https://github.com/PeterLemon/N64/tree/master/Hack/Widescreen

Lots of hacks

[orchid nimbus]

he also has a massive amount of demo roms

@weary palm I'll add that link to the FAQ

[weary palm]

Need to check out BigBuckBunny now

114MB lets go

[daring meteor]

The core is either 112 or 120

Yeah I think its 112

[weary palm]

aw... black picture, only sound

[daring meteor]

Do you get an error

[mortal panther]

"Let's listen for 45 seconds..."

[orchid nimbus]

"hey listen" "hey listen" "hey listen" "hey listen" "hey listen"

[weary palm]

E004C000

[daring meteor]

Ah, C, that is YUV

[weary palm]

ah, yuv no go?

[daring meteor]

No

[weary perch]

@fair stump what's the easiest way to repro the freezing on team select in Triple Play 2000? i couldn't get it to happen on my end

[weary palm]

crud

[weary perch]

tried going into and back out of that screen a bunch of times but didn't freeze on me

[fair stump]

It's been some time since I tested it but I believe it was on the team select screen either after selecting the first team or the second team.

Could have been an issue with the game going to the next screen. I forget exactly, sorry

[weary perch]

cool, i'll try it some more when i get a break from work here

thank you!

[weary palm]

listening to "Safety Dance" through the N64 core right now. xD Too bad no picture

still unreal

[topaz otter]

if your friends don't dance

then their no friends of mine

[weary palm]

indeed

[topaz otter]

now everybody look at your hands

[weary palm]

everybody's taking a chance

[topaz otter]

i haven't read this call in a while, whats going on with the core

[weary palm]

lots

preliminary TLB implementation

[topaz otter]

oh cool

[orchid nimbus]

Mario64 and Mario Golf now work

Killer Instinct Gold

[bronze tree]

which game did you complete this time? 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

Looks like some Aleck64 game

[weary palm]

oh cool. found a video encode that worked. 320x240 GRB 12-Bit LZSS DIFF RLE.

[orchid nimbus]

nurd

[weary palm]

wtf is this music video. Devo - Time out for fun

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZUQ59UjCR0

[weary palm]

I'm scarred

I wasn't ready for tiny potato people

[weary palm]

https://youtu.be/i89f_CMn7bw

[mild ether]

Vivid Dolls works now.

[weary palm]

must have the wrong rom

Ok it works now. I can't. The moans. xD

It's like QIX, but pornographic.

[zinc dew]

Ok so who here is a fighting game fan and can educate me on why Killer Instinct Gold isn’t a bigger deal.

Because that game is cool!

[mild ether]

There is a bunch of games like that. Gals Panic Series and Miss World '96

[weary palm]

WOW New Fantasia

lazy smut

[mild ether]

Miss World 96 is probably the most NSFW but also has a funny soundtrack and weird horror movie like pictures too.

[wanton sun]

112. before 8mbyte have been reserved for non-rom. Now it's 16 mbyte due to gameboy rom also being on sdram

[weary beacon]

Right where's the fantasia core?

[daring meteor]

Yeah I figured out its 112 later

[mild ether]

I haven't played that one yet.

[wanton sun]

ah yes, sorry missed that

[deft tree]

Despite how much KI gets murmured about, it has next to no actual playerbase, and they’d play arcade if they were

[weary palm]

either way, b3313 should fit, but it's not made with real hardware in mind. we can forget about that one.

[zinc dew]

Honestly I wanted to ping you but I hate bugging you constantly with dumb ass questions about arcade/fighting games LOL.

Thanks for explaining it. That makes perfect sense!

[weary palm]

good thing not many people have one of those 64MB RAM modules. They would probably nag about GB making it impossible for them to play Resident Evil or PAL Paper Mario

[wanton sun]

it's not gb, even without 64mbyte would not be possible

still need something for flash/sram and 9th RDRAm bit

[weary palm]

ah, sorry

[woven olive]

the small competitive player base surprisingly plays the snes version. it fixed a bunch of balance issues the arcade had.

and i haven't seen any competitive ki2/gold ever. i'm sure it exists but it is smaller than snes ki

[deft tree]

such a strange game overall

mechanically

[woven olive]

it is. auto combos were unique at the time and that makes it kind of fun for a bit.

[daring meteor]

Now we would just get the possible nag of maybe the end of big buck bumble being corrupted, oh no, how terrible

(We don't know yet due to YUV)

[wanton sun]

is it yuv that is missing?

[daring meteor]

Its a video that shows up as black rn, and the error has the right bit set up

E004C000

[wanton sun]

ok, could be

[weary palm]

It doesn't freeze, the audio keeps playing

so I bet it's yuv

[wanton sun]

i assumed some kind of rsp bug, but could also be yuv

yes, source code tells it's likely YUV textures: "DMA 2048 Bytes of YUV Channel Data To RDRAM"

[daring meteor]

Makes sense

[wanton sun]

would be a nice test then

can be instantly tested without going deep into a game

[weary palm]

Safety Dance is also YUV 🙂

and loads quicker

[wanton sun]

it's yuv, but it doesn't even work in ares

It looks the same in my emu as in ares, so there is more than just yuv to it

[weary palm]

the GRB video works though: https://github.com/PeterLemon/N64/tree/master/Video/Devo-TimeOutForFun

[wanton sun]

Bad Apple also works

they use different methods

[weary palm]

Every console needs a BadApple

[knotty zealot]

klonoa on ps1

[orchid nimbus]

worng channel #1046940919607345272

[marble cargo]

Bad Apple for the Apple Bandai Pippin when

[knotty zealot]

i am exactly where i'm supposed to be

[zealous hull]

Kirby 64 without texture filtering is basically Klonoa. 😏

[topaz otter]

The N64 isn't the home of sleaze

[mild ether]

It is now.

[worn delta]

I assured you before, you'd be woken up when Goldeneye was running or Sweden qualified for the Euros, so for now you can go back to your ice fishing hole to celebrate yesterday's glorious draw. One of the two will be happening very soon... 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Haha I can test it. Give me a reason to plug my Pippin in again

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-cringe-meme-cringe-imagine-gif-23477312

[cerulean elk]

I should sell that stupid thing and cash in

[mild ether]

I will trade you a perfectly good Virtual Boy for it.

[orchid nimbus]

there is only 1 person who complained that the slideshow was broken and sometimes showed multiple screenshots in quick succession 😄

    if (zOld==zNew) {
        randomPick();
    }```
Is not the same as 
```javascript
    while (zOld==zNew) {
        zNew=Math.floor(Math.random() * (picks.length));
    } ```

Funny n00b mistake

I need to script more

especially when RandomPick contains javascript setTimeout(randomPick,3000);

you get multiple instances running

(end of jscript lesson no one asked about)

[mild ether]

It was broken when I looked at it but I figured my browser was broken.

[orchid nimbus]

nah I think you told me it happened 🙂

[mild ether]

I break a lot of things.

[cerulean elk]

Lol another thing I won’t use

I need to sell it to an apple collector. Someone who cares about the history since it’s a dev unit

[mild ether]

Oh snap. I collect dev hardware.

[orchid nimbus]

35 days until xmas

it looks like we'll have over 90% N64 games (or more) working

[mild ether]

GoldenEye for Christmas?

[mild ether]

Save states maybe? 😱😱

[modern sleet]

We might get 1 TLB game working by christmas

[eternal ravine]

Conker Xmas

[orchid nimbus]

@modern sleet like Mario Golf?

[mild ether]

If we are lucky.

[languid dune]

If I don't get my Tender Loving Bits for Christmas, I will be......unhappy!

[mortal panther]

One LOD game working by Christmas

[daring meteor]

One RSP game when

[zinc dew]

That’s right!

#1096015979055697940 message

[orchid nimbus]

if only the n64 had blast processing

@languid dune I know @wanton sun will personally come by and give all naughty people here a lump of coal!!

[lament escarp]

We have Knecht Ruprecht in Germany, it's santas helper who puts naughty kids in his bag and beats the shit out of them.

[orchid nimbus]

yeah... in the Netherlands they have them too.... but posting a picture of them will get my cancelled

[novel junco]

Ah, yes, Krampus! Perhaps we'll be close to one working N64 game by St. Nicholas day!

[orchid nimbus]

the German or the Dutch one?

[novel junco]

Oh I mean the German one, Dec. 6th

[lament escarp]

The correct one

[orchid nimbus]

not the Dutch December 5th 😄

[novel junco]

I actually had no clue the dutch had different date

[orchid nimbus]

they didn't want to celebrate on the day he died

so they picked a day earlier

[lament escarp]

Santa is dead? 😱

[orchid nimbus]

Saint Nicholas of Myra (traditionally 15 March 270 – 6 December 343)

The Dutch version comes from Spain on a steamboat

[lament escarp]

Thats why I never got presents

[eternal ravine]

Anyone see that recent Santa action movie?

Would make a good game, like Home Alone + Die Hard

[stiff condor]

Well, my MiSTer is down for a few days while it gets rebuilt into a new system.

[cerulean elk]

the million dollar MiSTer...we can rebuild it

[lament escarp]

Every MiSTer is worth a million dollar. Thank goodness they don't cost that much.

[cerulean elk]

I heard they were obsolete now? lol

[lament escarp]

Because mars has 1 8bit game running?

[mild ether]

It all starts with just some simple games.

[cerulean elk]

I am just playing haha. Been getting a lot of odd comments lately on videos that confuse me

[lament escarp]

I dunno why people keep getting hyped for new platforms, or claim others are obsolete. Mister will still be all it is now, and very soon a functionally complete n64.

[stiff condor]

I've probably put in about a grand so far into this damn thing

[lament escarp]

Most cost to me are controllers.

[mild ether]

More platforms is a good thing, it means FPGA gaming is growing.

[rare flint]

because they care nothing about computer or console history, only Tate shot em ups

[mild ether]

Don't know about anything being obsolete though because of there being something new. People are still rocking their MiST.

[lament escarp]

For sure, I just don't see them replacing each other. And tbh I wouldn't switch to another platform unless it has all that mister has + gc,ps2 and xbox.

[stiff condor]

I feel like that's going to be one powerful FPGA and expensive

[vapid hawk]

xbox seems unimaginable tbh

[mild ether]

Yeah, it's 700mhz.

[lament escarp]

What else could a new platform offer me to justify the switch?

[stiff condor]

Nothing

[mild ether]

Would be pretty cool though since it would mean a fast x86 core with graphic card.

[stiff condor]

MiSTer already has all the support. The only thing I would appreciate it a better UI

[lament escarp]

And a better n64 driver for 3rd party controllers.

[short shell]

I feel that going up the generation ladder you get diminishing returns from real hardware vs software emulation

[zealous hull]

I personally feel as though Dolphin is an exception to that rule.

[daring meteor]

You're saying Dolphin is bad?

Oh wait

[short shell]

maybe the only 6th gen console that makes sense in fpga one day is the ps2 with its weird "graphics synthetizer"

[zealous hull]

The opposite. 🙂

[raw oriole]

Dolphin is excellent

[daring meteor]

I understood it as meaning the opposite, i.e the higher up you go the less software emulation hampers stuff

[mild ether]

Seems like they are gearing it heavily towards arcade. I will get one to put in a cabinet. Not a MiSTer replacement but another cabinet with FPGA. $700 seems like a lot of money but it's really not for arcade.

[zealous hull]

I can totally see how it could be interpreted that way. I very likely misread.

[lament escarp]

Agreed, ps2 software emulation is not that great. And my fat ps2 isn't getting any younger. And even opl isn't 100% compatible with every game. So fpga core in 10-20 years would be awesome.

[latent galleon]

dolphin is the best, and ryujinx might be how i finished super mario wonder

[daring meteor]

Because likely that's the benefits they're gonna get from mister

Co op collection also is, naturally, mostly making arcade implementations

[mild ether]

That's a good thing.

[daring meteor]

I mean, that's a natural thing (Unless your favorate game consoles are DS and Dreamcast, which is unlikely)

[latent galleon]

mister also does arcade though, so $700 is...still more? i have no idea, those arcade folks get fleeced

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah actually they could have a better PC core

[mild ether]

I'm more hoping for Naomi, Sega STV and if we are lucky Model 2.

[raw oriole]

Mars chat -> #fpga-platforms plskthx

[latent galleon]

mistercade is $600 so

oops

[raw oriole]

It gets too polluting having it all over 🙂

[latent galleon]

nobody is arguing, i didn't even realize what channel this was

now where is more TLB

[raw oriole]

In Robert’s head

[latent galleon]

at least half on the page by this point

[daring meteor]

The TLB was in the Mister all along

[lament escarp]

In the last vge vid @cerulean elk mentioned tlb is 20% done. Seems it's not all that big, though implementing could be a bit tricky. But hard is what Robert does in a day, impossible has to wait till the weekend. 😄

[worn delta]

It really does feel like Robert is in the home stretch already, I wouldn't be surprised if it was officially released by Xmas and it was down to obscure bug fixing and polish at that point

It's just wild to have been along for the ride on this

[raw oriole]

Fingers crossed we get that “one game working by Christmas” Robert promised 🎅🏼

[cerulean elk]

No I heard it wouldnt be ready till xmas. At least the first game

[vapid hawk]

i played like 3 hours of zelda earlier and honestly completely forgot i was playing a beta core, or a core at all

just pure nostalgia

[cerulean elk]

I played a couple hours of Mario Golf last night. Same experience. Just felt like playing N64

[worn delta]

It would be really funny if someone turned up at Xmas: "Hey guys, I read a few months back there would be an N64 game running for Xmas so stopped by to see which one is working"

[daring meteor]

I think the sentence started to be memed when games were working already, unfourtenatly

[lament escarp]

I really hope we get at least 1 last: "I heard n64 wasn't possible on mister. You guys sure n64 is even worth trying?"

[raw oriole]

The game that works is Quest 64

[cerulean elk]

the only time finishing earlier than promised is a good thing...N64 FPGA development

[daring meteor]

The game that works is Vivid Dolls

[lament escarp]

Need to make a full test of aydin chronicles at some point.

[vapid hawk]

he said one game working by xmas we just don't know which game he was talking about

[daring meteor]

The question remains: Which will be the last supported game?

I say Conker

[magic girder]

Goldeneye or Conker’s, just because they’re the two I most want to play 😅

[vapid hawk]

probably resident evil somehow

[vagrant ivy]

you dont know which system. Hes secretly working on another core but only Tier 100 Patreons know

[versed cairn]

I feel like jet force is gonna be the last "playable" since it needs timing

[magic girder]

1 Virtual Boy game working by Xmas!

[lament escarp]

Castlevania 64. Not because of the game itself, but because nobody would want to test it. 😄

[mild ether]

3DO core between Christmas and New year.

[weary beacon]

pokemon crystal will be last 😦

[vagrant ivy]

No Torture is illegal at Christmas

[vapid hawk]

in reality it'll be something weird we'd probably never even think of

like on PSX... there's some random snooker game that mysteriously doesn't work iirc

[mild ether]

Wideboy 64?

[vagrant ivy]

you all wrong you need to be switched on !

[magic girder]

After N64 and Saturn, there’s nothing new I want from MiSTer aside from new arcade games. This last year has been super exciting

[lament escarp]

Panzer dragoon, ff7 and oot on one platform. How magnificent.

[wanton sun]

too many things until christmas: tlb, yuv, LOD, 2pass render bug (outlines on some triangles), PI timing (JFG), RSP dual issue, gen2 GB mapper, ....

[vagrant ivy]

Robert's 12 days of Christmas