Nintendo 64

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-stand-up-comedy-you-gone-l-earn-today-learn-learning-gif-5099594

[rose elbow]

everybodys gotta learn sometimes

[thorny marten]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-watchtheworld-somemen-batman-alfred-gif-5321685

[brisk drum]

Yep we in kakariko

[languid dune]

Nonsense! I hit the cuckoos every dang time! The ensuing mayhem is the point!

[orchid nimbus]

https://youtu.be/018Md2jBWhM?t=491

Ganon hurts chickens - therefore chickens will hurt Ganon

[worn delta]

Re cheats: lots here that can be bundled into a MiSTer pack when the time is right 🙂
https://gamehacking.org/system/n64

[orchid nimbus]

maybe Markun will be able to work on it

[hollow mist]

works great for me (I had some issues earlier that simply re-binding everything from the MiSTer menu fixed), but rumble isn't working (for me).

[worn delta]

The guy who runs the site has packs here that are updated when new cheats are added to the site, that get grabbed by the MiSTer update script, so when on the cards can be requested to get N64 added to there
https://gamehacking.org/mister/

[brisk drum]

I’m trying to learn em rite

[orchid nimbus]

well I know the cheats exist

but the core doesn't support it yet 🙂

[carmine kettle]

the core aint rdy yet for cheats

[manic basin]

Ye canna hand'l the CHEHTS!

[vapid hawk]

cheats needs to wait for all the vital parts of the core to be fit in first i think rob said

its really going to be that tight

[cerulean elk]

Who called Sean Connery / Willie

[rose elbow]

just out of curiosity what's the use case of the swap d-pad/joystick toggle?

or good examples?

[manic basin]

Anything that uses stick being played on an arcade cab

M30 controller

[vapid hawk]

smash brothers, kirby

[manic basin]

Small rocks, gravy.

[rose elbow]

ooh kirby

[woven olive]

Or the rare games that use the dpad as primary input and your controller is more comfortable for analog e.g. all the AKI WCW/WWF wrestling games.

[rose elbow]

yeah im sure theres plenty of examples just couldnt think of anything heh

[manic basin]

But yeah, in general there are game reasons, and there are setup reasons. It's awesome to have the flexibility.

[orchid nimbus]

Kirbo rocks

[rose elbow]

cool cool, nice option

[manic basin]

Sega Activator to N64 mapping for those sweet YouTube views....

[rose elbow]

i have OOT open and playing around with the standard n64 version which is nice

i wonder how hard it is to mod in some good old tank controls for link LOL

[zealous hull]

That's a take I've never heard before.

Not that it's bad. Just interesting. 🙂

[rose elbow]

ya i'm cracking up thinking about it dont get me wrong, its a silly idea

[zealous hull]

No no, you might be onto something.

[mortal panther]

I've really been enjoying the Brawler 64, but the only complaint I have about it is that it's too... slick. The plastic shell is very smooth (fingers and palms slide around on it easily making it a bit difficult to grip and keep in one place), and I really wish the rubber on the analog stick had a bit of texture to it.

[zealous hull]

Maybe we can get Robert to add in a "tank" toggle. 😛

[manic basin]

You're a monster! Hehehe.

[vapid hawk]

you could try sticking some kind of cap on the stick

there's millions available for xbox/ps controllers, one might fit

[cerulean elk]

You monster

[mortal panther]

Thought about that. Good idea.

[manic basin]

OK, two votes for monster. We know @rose elbow isn't Frankenstein at least.

[rose elbow]

i'm an ideas man.

bad ideas? sure

[manic basin]

Sometimes the world needs a bad idea.

[rose elbow]

i think Croc planted the idea a bit. that game on PSX has analog and dpad support and the dpad tank controls is weirdly more playable. but i think that comes down to when and how the game was developed

and then of course just now, playing around with the dpad/joystick swap in more or less the wrong applications lol

[chilly ember]

Croc 2 is better for analog, croc 1 was designed for the dpad more so. Lots of awkwardness like that on psx

[rose elbow]

ya

silliness aside, ocarina is running very very nicely

[vapid hawk]

might even be able to take it apart and swap the stick cap entirely with something else - maybe a gamecube one

https://www.reddit.com/r/n64/comments/lftjy1/modded_a_gamecube_stick_cap_into_my_brawler64/

i might do this to the ones i've got heh, at least they'd be good for something then

[rose elbow]

it does mention needing a 3d printed part

[mortal panther]

Hmm, interesting. I'll check that out. Thanks!

[vapid hawk]

ok then add this to fix the triggers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HrMo7q4VKA

and then only the dpad is still terrible 😛

[mortal panther]

Then again, I could just take my soldering iron to the rubber and put dimples in it. 😉

[zealous hull]

If you have a community sharing how to mod your controller, maybe it's just a bad controller.

[vapid hawk]

its hilarius how many people have worked on fixing this thing lol

[zealous hull]

I actually own a few of the original runs. The joystick was terrible in both.

I ended up loosening the screws holding the shell together, and it was fine. lol

[mortal panther]

I had to do that to original 3DO controllers to 'fix' the D-pad.

[vapid hawk]

then mod in rumble like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/retrogaming/comments/eziie3/i_rumble_modded_my_brawler_64_controller/

[rose elbow]

i think the brawler 64 for original hardware also comes with the bluetooth receiver that plugs into the console (kinda wavebird-esque), so it's got some nice perks to it compared to alternatives

[vapid hawk]

can't find any dpad fixes

[weary perch]

Wave Race 64 USA rev 1 confirmed completable. doesn't seem to crash anymore, just a bit of text/ui flicker

not sure what the cause of that little flicker is but it shows up in a surprising number of games

[primal bolt]

isnt the best version of wave race the japan one that came out after.... or maybe it just only has rumble added

like the mario 64 with rumble

[weary perch]

Shindou is the best version, yes

there's a translated version out there these days, too

[primal bolt]

nice

[eternal ravine]

i had never played any Banjo for N64 until using this core

[drowsy lantern]

Such a magnificent game even today

[eternal ravine]

the musical hoedown intro cracks me up

[marble cargo]

Cool, now unlock Stop n' Swop

[vapid hawk]

tooie next !

[drowsy lantern]

Those cheats are way too long to type in the sandcastle, fuck that. 😂

[eternal ravine]

I kind of want to wait until all the graphic features are implemented

Will be fun to try out different settings

[zealous hull]

oh god why

[vapid hawk]

yeah tooie isn't working yet

[drowsy lantern]

I tried turning off Texture Filtering at times, and could not stand it 😂

[zealous hull]

It's...beatable?

Maybe?

[rose elbow]

this sent me for such a spin as a kid the whole stop n swap

[zealous hull]

I get a headache about 2 minutes in.

[eternal ravine]

Your retinas will have burn-in

[marble cargo]

But the Ice Key! You need to unlock Luigi that is hiding under the truck in Hidden Palace Zone!

[rose elbow]

even dithering atm i've been jumping back and forth on

[eternal ravine]

We've got banding, so let's dither the banding and then blur the dither

And then blur the blurred dithered banding

[vapid hawk]

basically the voodoo3 strategy too

it works much better at higher resolutions

[eternal ravine]

Some N64 games still look really nice, mostly on the colorful cartoony end of things

[rose elbow]

diddy kong racing and banjo kazooie are both games i never really re-visited since playing them as a kid on original system. its been really nice revisiting them on the current cores

[orchid nimbus]

mario64 looks so nice with greens/blue yellows and greys

[eternal ravine]

Kirby cinematics are sweet

[orchid nimbus]

and a lot of reds

[vapid hawk]

hydro thunder on n64 is maybe the most impressive game i've seen run on mister

it could be an arcade title almost

[hearty oar]

we still use dithering in all sorts of places to this day as a cheap way to eg. perform lod fade, blend transparent particles, stuff like that

[eternal ravine]

Conker has some good stuff, hopefully coming soon

[rose elbow]

yeah i'm keen to revisit the later rare games. i never liked them much as a kid and curious to revisit

especially banjo 2 aha

[vapid hawk]

the problem with conker is its really bizarely hard

the fall damage in it is brutal , just for one thing

[eternal ravine]

I just like exploring the Conker world
Not exactly a Mario killer tho

[rose elbow]

((( maybe something to revisit with Cheats/hacks :D )))

[zealous hull]

I decided I didn't want to beat Conker without cheats from now on.

It has some pretty BS moments.

[vapid hawk]

they should of made it easier so you could just blast through and enjoy all the cutscenes and jokes but its really annoyingly difficult

[rose elbow]

Banjo 1 world size and challenge is really nicely balanced i feel

[marble cargo]

I wouldn't say it's hard, since you can easily farm for lives and the saving is really generous, but it is oddly punishing.

[vapid hawk]

also your moveset is pretty limited and dull compared to BK

[eternal ravine]

Well, those devs grew up on Amiga
Deadly water droplets

[vapid hawk]

traversal is slower and more boring

[eternal island]

im one of those people who had been playing conkers bfd over and over since childhood due to someones lack of judgement

game seems easy

[zealous hull]

This is the 3rd time I've typed "Conkey" instead of Conker in this server and I am baffled. Why? Why do my fingers want to type Conkey so badly?

[vapid hawk]

i actually think the later xbox game was a lot more fun to play

[eternal island]

but thats childhood game syndrome i think

[rose elbow]

Don't Take Damage From Falling by Viper187
Action Replay/GameShark
81315E5C 2400

[vapid hawk]

nice

[rose elbow]

come onnnn Cheats :D

[hearty oar]

I've actually only ever played the single player on the Xbox version

never owned BFD on N64, only played multiplayer at a mate's placee

[eternal island]

xbox version was really good. complaints about swear words being censored was silly

most werent

[rose elbow]

its more censored than the n64 version ?

[hearty oar]

the multiplayer was really fun though, I always though the CTF map was so cool

[zealous hull]

I think it #@#$ing is.

[eternal island]

yes, but not super heavily

you know whats being said... it really doesnt matter

[rose elbow]

funny tho considering it was like the 1 thing CBFD really had going for it, as far as the marketing and kids attitudes to it at the time was concerned ahaha

[verbal cedar]

On patched sm64 I collected the last red coin before the first bowser fight music chained, then when I fell off the game froze. No error code. Trying to reproduce now

[vapid hawk]

A Teddy Bear Hitler scene was removed from the game.
There was originally a scene that showed a squirrel undergoing surgery while still alive, which was changed to the two doctors just talking to each other.
Frankie pitchfork quote "It was like one of those lynchings you hear about." was followed by a group of characters wearing KKK outfits. This was changed to "It was like one of those executions you hear about." followed by a group of characters wearing generic executioner outfits.
Swear words like "asshole", "shit" and "twat" are censored in the remake but not in the original game.```

[rose elbow]

oh yeah fair enough

[eternal island]

the rest of the game and its upsides far outweighs the tiny censors

[hearty oar]

imagine having a less child-friendly experience on a Nintendo platform

[orchid nimbus]

queste64

[vapid hawk]

yeah, none of that censored stuff really matters vs the way better graphics, framerate, and like quality of life improvements

[rose elbow]

that reminds me of like, getting into the dragon ball manga and trying to find the least censored version in english. and realizing all the censoring is stuff like .. bulma related drawn breasts who was technically a teenager at the time or something? putting a bra on her and stuff like that. can kinda live with that level of censoring ahaha

[eternal island]

that being said... i prefer the original due to nostalgia goggles..

and no other reason...

[rose elbow]

completely valid reason tbh

[vapid hawk]

yeah thats fair

[zealous hull]

I would like it more if it had tank controls.

[eternal island]

how dare you

[rose elbow]

it'd be a "fun" challenge

[eternal island]

id beat the game for sure

off the wall and into the trash can

[vapid hawk]

tank controls would make it play roughly like tombraider right?

i think a lot of the bosses rely on you being more nimble than that

[eternal island]

i think you can see what it would be like in the matrix part

pretty sure it was almost like tank controls

[rose elbow]

going back to ocarina of time, i feel that game u could potentially get away with getting banged up and injured more due to dodgy tank controls

[vapid hawk]

can't you get tank controls in zelda anytime you want just hold down Z?

[rose elbow]

like in skyward sword how that game gives you like 6 hearts from the start of the game and then you realize the wii motion control inputs were kinda dodgy

[hearty oar]

it's not really tank controls if you can strafe

[eternal island]

i suppose

gotta make it feel worse

i say that but i still love the RE games and silent hill..

[zinc dew]

https://youtu.be/LKnv8L99-48

Helpful video for those new to the system.

[hearty oar]

I actually never had a problem with the motion controls in SS, and in fact when I played the remake I stuck with them despite traditional controls being offerred, just felt better to me

[eternal island]

nostalgia is one hell of a drug

even makes me enjoy tank controls somehow

[rose elbow]

did u play the wii version? specifically mean that that. the remake was awesome!

[hearty oar]

yes, both

[rose elbow]

the wii version was mostly fine but there was 1 input in particular i struggled with. foggy memory but it was like, u thrusted the left numchuck forward or something to do a shield bash attack?

there was 1 move in particular that i could never get right and it was always in heat of battle i'd get the inputs wrong and cop getting hit

[hearty oar]

oh maybe, that would make sense, nunchuk was always a bit finicky

[rose elbow]

mooooostly it was fine

the HD switch version tho pretty much fixed any major nitpicks i had

[vapid hawk]

resident evil would suck without tank controls - which you can easily prove by just playing the hd remakes which let you have camera relative control, its jank

every camera transition you have to reposition your stick pointing to keep walking in a straight line

[zealous hull]

My partner can't even go back to the original games anymore.

[rose elbow]

skyward sword is such a funny game. some people haate it and will not tolerate the idea that it's kinda fun

[zealous hull]

She loves the remakes too much, including new controls. So I'd chalk it up to a matter of taste.

[hearty oar]

I actually find games that have "tank" controls extremely intuitive, like I never had an issue with classic RE, or ie games like God Hand or Shenmue

[vapid hawk]

i mean, to be fair speedrunners love them too, they let you do stuff you just can't with the original controls

[hearty oar]

maybe just years of playing only games like that condition you lol

[vapid hawk]

its slightly gamebreaking since you can turn on a dime baiting zombies is comically easy

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-D9LrFJd4

[hearty oar]

I don't have an issue with modern style 3rd person controls either though

[zealous hull]

I'm a SS "hater", in that it's the only Zelda game I had to force myself to finish. I wish I could like it even a little, but I just can't stand it.

[rose elbow]

i swear to god hand on heart im not trying to be controversial or contrarian here but i do genuinely think skysward sword might be a better game than twilight princess and actually looked at the zelda formula and implemented some much needed shake ups to the series. compared to TP which was just doing the same game over and over

[hearty oar]

I played it twice, so it can't be that bad lol

[vapid hawk]

TP gives you a goth girlfriend tho - does SS do that ?

[zealous hull]

Nah, nothing wrong with that take. I'm of the opinion that it was the series rock bottom that forced the devs to try a completely different approach--and thus BoTW was born.

[zealous hull]

I calculate a 0% chance that it does.

[eternal island]

goth boyfriend

👍

[rose elbow]

i just love that skyward sword is like, 'nonstop gameplay'. like SS gets a bad rep for having "back tracking" or going back to old areas but i just view that stuff as the game having nonstop things to do

[hearty oar]

I wouldn't rate it higher than other 3D Zelda games, but it's still a Zelda game so I rate it vastly higher than a lot of other games at least

[vapid hawk]

i thought SS had a bad rap for over tutorializing the first few hours

they made a lot of it skippable in the hd remaster and there was much rejoicing

[hearty oar]

that and just repeating that one tedious boss fight with the toenail thing over and over

[zealous hull]

If there was an edition that cut out literally all dialogue in the game, I think I would give it a 6/10. But vanilla game gets a 4/10 for me.

[rose elbow]

yeah. i need to replay Twilight Princess. i never got to replay the Wii U version and that might sway my opinion a bit. but i tried to do a Gamecube replay at one point and found it way more slower and harder to get into than SS

[vapid hawk]

isn't there a romhack by now to speed up all the text ?

[topaz otter]

Much better than the brown and bloom of the early 2000s

[rose elbow]

the Switch remake ?

[topaz otter]

When all color was drained out of video games

[vapid hawk]

its better apparently but hasn't anyone patched the wii version for it?

[zealous hull]

Yes, that's how I was able to even finish the game. I couldn't get through it on the Wii until I patched it with the QoL stuff.

[hearty oar]

that was more of a late 2000s, early 2010s thing right? When we had great visual fidelity, but we were starting to slam into the limits of traditional, no-PBR shading

[zealous hull]

Again, just my opinion, I get people like the game and I'm thrilled for them.

[vapid hawk]

nice - there's a randomizer so probably a bunch of QOL i guess

[rose elbow]

i guess thats an important clarification distinction! when i'm defending Skyward sword i'm very specifically referring to the Switch version and not the wii version **

the switch version is like they went in and addressed all the complaints

[zealous hull]

Oh!

I gotta say. That one temple was amazing though.

You all know the one.

[vapid hawk]

i never played it 😄

[rose elbow]

its not bad! :D

[hearty oar]

that's what I miss in BotW and TotK, traditional dungeons

[vapid hawk]

yeah i'm cooking up an iso to go on the wii now

thanks for the inspiration

[rose elbow]

i fell off TOTK really hard

i gotta get back into it

[zealous hull]

Hope you have fun! It really does improve a lot.

Ancient Cistern. Had to look it up. Look forward to that temple. It kicks ass.

Actually, all of the temples are pretty good--sans one or two.

[rose elbow]

what i would've killed for in BOTW to turn a corner while exploring random canyons and corners of the map and stumbling onto like a giant skull tower or something.. the game needed those little surprises and reveals really badly

[drowsy lantern]

Is it just me or Kirby 64 is really dull?

[rose elbow]

still great games but its funny they excluded something that was already really successful in the series

[zealous hull]

I grew up with it, so I'm biased. Have you played the other Dreamland games? It really sorta just builds off that formula.

[hearty oar]

TotK tried and fails to address that fully imho, there are more in depth side quests and caves and stuff, but still nothing like a classic Zelda puzzle box dungeon

[drowsy lantern]

First time playing Kirby 64 and like… movement is slow and sluggish, challenge is brain dead, level design is barebones simple, mechanics are shallow… I dunno it’s not doing anything for me thus far

[rose elbow]

TOTK kinda reminded me of majoras mask a bit. like it takes what it built with Ocarina of time but uses the assets to cram in way more quests and stories (like with the bombers notebook). so i still enjoy TOTK but yeah you have to look at it from a certain angle or something

[drowsy lantern]

Yeah I played Dreamland and didn’t like it for much the same reasons. Kirby’s Adventure was so much better in every way that isn’t the graphics.

[zealous hull]

Yeah, you're probably not going to love 64 then. 🙂 For sure not for everybody. I think as a child I was just fascinated with combining abilites. Though now I can see most of them...aren't great.

[drowsy lantern]

You can combine abilities?

[zealous hull]

It's sorta the defining trait of the game, yeah.

[drowsy lantern]

How?

Can’t swallow while I already have an ability

[zealous hull]

Use the C-Buttons to "take out" a power you have, then throw it at an enemy.

[drowsy lantern]

K I’ll try

[zealous hull]

You can even take out enemies you've sucked up and some of them have unique attacks that you can use against other creatures.

[rose elbow]

where TOTK really failed imo is just the snail pace sludge of the best part of the game (the crafting building things) being drip fed over the course of the game but then also stumbling into areas that requires the crafting (?) ..

[zealous hull]

It's pretty clever, tbh

[zealous hull]

Try to mix Cutter + Spark and Cutter + Bomb. Those are my two favorite combos. 🙂

[rose elbow]

maybe i was just playing the wrong game but i found it really hard exploring parts of TOTK without getting obsessed with levelling up my battery packs and things and getting completely off course looking up guides and farming items and things and making the game really boring for myself LOL

[fair stump]

I just don't want to care about the building and that's kind of the defining feature

[rose elbow]

ya its a tough balance. i enjoyed the building stuff but also they made it really hard to engage with at times

[hearty oar]

it was the same for me, I ended up having to just call it after a while and say, "no more errands, time to just finish the game"

[rose elbow]

smart smart. ive stepped away from the game and left it hanging. i need to go back with that atttiude a bit

also wild that Ocarina of time default is Z-Target Switch instead of Hold

[native mesa]

Brawler 64 is pretty janky

I have 2 of them

The wireless one fried my memory card

[rose elbow]

no kidding! that's a thing?

that is rough

[stiff pecan]

just trying out yoshis story, what a trip

[rose elbow]

Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy

[orchid nimbus]

yes

[stiff pecan]

gotta see it in motion though

[orchid nimbus]

i played to page 2 😄

[mossy needle]

@drowsy lantern nice 9 hours not bad! Good shit

[native mesa]

They probably decided that was too many buttons to at a given time. Hold z to target hold r for shield swing sword with b move with stick

Humanity wasn't ready for it

[rose elbow]

i am now ready

[junior yarrow]

I got to page 3, but really i dont recommend it

[rose elbow]

that is true. when these controllers were new and how much stopping and actively looking down at the controller

[stiff pecan]

got to page 2, that’s enough of that

[compact depot]

Does the N64 have 200 good games? 😱 I really need to watch this!

[orchid nimbus]

[was a gif] Yoshies story: reveal lucky fruit

[compact depot]

No gif, no fun 😔

[orchid nimbus]

sorry request of Fpgazumspass

[compact depot]

Agreed then

[orchid nimbus]

gifs interupt his scrolling during his breakfast

[compact depot]

Thought it was the gif police again

[orchid nimbus]

so he needs to put down the spoon and manually stop the gif and scroll

gifs stop the flow

and he reads a lot of messages posted here

[zealous hull]

This is true (hi Robert!)

[orchid nimbus]

that's what I remember

[cerulean elk]

I eat gifs for breakfast

[orchid nimbus]

if I have dreamed it... that's another question

[cerulean elk]

Wash it down with iced coffee

[zealous hull]

It's 9:45 PM here and you just made me want iced coffee...

[elfin relic]

gif peanut butter and jelly

[cerulean elk]

I put a bit more time into Bomberman hero. Bout 65% through. Unless there are some late game freeze issues I’d highly presume it’s going to be able to be completed

[native mesa]

No it's a useless video. Why stop at 200 when it's most of the library

[zealous hull]

It's good to know about the 188 stinkers.

[cerulean elk]

That’s my problem. I crave coffee at night

[void pawn]

I mean honestly I personally don’t care about SM64 or Ocarina because I’d rather play source ports at twice to triple the frame rate

But it’s all awesome

[hearty oar]

a shot of espresso in the evening tends to make me feel sleepy, paradoxically

[cerulean elk]

No I get that. Calming effect

A little warm double espresso is like a night cap

[zinc dew]

It covers basically every N64 game that’s worth a look with gameplay video showcasing the game.

watching it in its entirety is a bit much but skimming through it is helpful

[zealous hull]

I've actually seen the video before. If you're wanting to get a taste of what this core will give you, it does a great job.

[mortal panther]

What I got from that video was "Oh... so more than half of the library is worth playing. That's far more than most consoles." 😉

[zealous hull]

For pretty much every core that has made strides the past few years I just search "x best games".

[zinc dew]

Obviously that’s subjective but for me personally it’s very true. I personally own over 180 N64 games.

Meanwhile I have over 400 PS1 games and I struggle to find anything else worth picking up.

[zealous hull]

Wow. I think I got a PS1 for the first time 4 years ago. 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Don’t make me send you a list

[zinc dew]

I am pretty sure I own anything you could possibly recommend me that came out in the US

[cerulean elk]

Mizzurna falls? Got that @zinc dew ?

[zinc dew]

I don’t import

Well, I don’t import much

[mortal panther]

I didn't get a PS1 until I went to pick up my pre-order for Final Fantasy VII. I bought the console to go with it.

[cerulean elk]

Ok. English games worth owning that Robby doesn’t have. Let me think

R Type Delta

[zinc dew]

yeah of course

[cerulean elk]

Bomberman Party Edition

[zinc dew]

ok you got me

Lol

[hearty oar]

Bubsy 3D

[cerulean elk]

Jersey Devil

[zinc dew]

Yes and yea

[chilly ember]

Lol i was ready to type that

[zinc dew]

oh no wait, there is one game

[cerulean elk]

Castlevania Chronicles

[zinc dew]

Yuuuup

[cerulean elk]

Point Blank 1/2/3 with GunCon

[zinc dew]

Yuuup

You got me on Bomberman why you keep going

[cerulean elk]

Mort the Chicken!

[zinc dew]

Haha yeah

Wait let me double check

Yes lol

[chilly ember]

Pepsiman

Lol i know import

[cerulean elk]

Haha what a bad game Mort is. But it’s weird and I kinda love it

[zinc dew]

This is N64 chat but yeah I do own Pepsiman

[cerulean elk]

I edited Pepsiman today

And voiced it over. Fun times

But I realized something

I think Pepsiman might be Donald trump in a Pepsiman suit 🤣

[devout leaf]

Someone uploaded a Pepsi Man mech in Armored Core 6. I kind of want to try it now lol.

[cerulean elk]

If only N64 had Pepsiman

Saturn got Segata Sanshiro, PS1 got Pepsiman…N64 got nothing

[devout leaf]

N64 has….huh

[orchid nimbus]

f-zero DAYTOOOONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

[devout leaf]

Smash Remix should do a Fighter’s Megamix and add a playable F-Zero car lol

[chilly ember]

They should put Pepsiman in remix

[cerulean elk]

Now there’s a good idea

Ok I’m out for the night. See you all tomorrow

[devout leaf]

Later!

[devout leaf]

Just never stops sprinting

[chilly ember]

He's hyped up on Pepsi :p

[weary palm]

Mepsi Pan

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/memes/ all collected memes so far

[zealous hull]

Robert is here and we're all just devolving into shitposts.

[orchid nimbus]

papsmearman!

nah the king of shitposters is still @knotty zealot

he even has a nice badge

[zealous hull]

This is true.

[weary palm]

Sculptors Cut?

[zinc dew]

I actually don’t want that one, it’s worse than the original.

and the original is real bad

Rare and good, sucks but I’ll stomach it

Rare and bad? Hell no, that’s exclusively the domain for insane collectors.

[chilly ember]

I got a copy of action 52 for Sega genesis locally for the lols

[zinc dew]

If it makes you happy and doesn’t break the bank then great, no harm done

[chilly ember]

I paid 10 bucks for it and still feel like I over paid but it's worth more so it's fine

[wanton sun]

i really put down the spoon now to answer that 😅 and in the meantime i turned gif off, the only start when i move the mouse over them. I think it was more a mod request to reduce gifs outside the general and meme channels

[weary palm]

Thats only like 20 cents a game. 😉

[chilly ember]

What a deal

[zinc dew]

Yes that’s correct, the gif minimization request wasn’t from Robert at all. It was a mod team decision to keep discussion on topic and reduce visual noise.

And it’s done fantastically.

even though I love gifs lol

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun fruhstuck!! 😄

[wanton sun]

Wave Race shindue needs the console boot to take longer: https://github.com/ares-emulator/ares/blob/master/ares/n64/ri/io.cpp#L23-L33

[simple olive]

if constexpr(!Accuracy::RDRAM::Broadcasting) {
  //this register is read by IPL3 to check if RDRAM initialization should be
  //skipped. if we are forcing it to be skipped, we should also consume
  //enough cycles to not inadvertently speed up the boot process.
  //Wave Race 64 Shindou Pak Taiou Version will freeze on the N64 logo if
  //the SCC count register, which increments at half the CPU clock rate, has
  //too small a value.
  //after a cold boot on real hardware with no expansion pak and using the
  //CIC-NUS-6102 IPL3, upon reaching the test ROM's entry point the count
  //register was measured to be ~0x1184000.
  cpu.step(17'641'000 * 2);

[wanton sun]

cannot remove this....anyway: Ares stalls the whole system for some hundret milliseconds when a register is read, but that is not something the core could do

wrong save type probably works because the game retries save init often enough to skip the time 😅

maybe a easy solution would be to reset the SCC register to a higher starting value, have not tried that yet

[orchid nimbus]

coming from the MSX SCC was the Konami Sound Custom Chip - also used in Haunted House 😄

[noble ember]

The 4dapter was such a great investment

[cold pollen]

I was thinking of making an acrylic case for it. Do you think some people might prefer that to the 3D printed shell?

[woeful beacon]

Oh my god a superpad

I remember when we would fight over who got that vs the oem

[cold pollen]

That superpad is really intriguing but I feel like it should have the analog on top

[noble ember]

@woeful beacon yea I love the Superpad 64. Way better than the stock N64 controller.

[woeful beacon]

I highly disagreed back in the late 90s but who knows now

[cold pollen]

Have you played with it on Switch at all?

[noble ember]

@cold pollen no

[manic basin]

Thank you for looking into it. If you need a tester, hit me up. If it can't be done, we have a workaround (no workaround for Waialae currently that I know of though...thank goodness Neo Turf Masters exists)

[cold pollen]

If you do use Switch online we added some features that should work well with it, as well as some of the other downloadable games like the Sega classics and 3D All Stars

[noble ember]

@cold pollen I will consider using the 4dapter with Switch to play some of the many retro inspired games.

I am hoping whomever made the 4dapter makes another to support PS1, Neo Geo, PC Engine and Saturn controllers

I prefer wired original controllers. I am considering a dog bone NES controller bit the SNES controller also works in the NES core

[cold pollen]

That would be @dawn fossil

[noble ember]

@cold pollen yea I asked him about that

[cold pollen]

I helped beta test and suggest some of the modes for Switch, as well as design the case

[noble ember]

@cold pollen I would have to flash the 4dapter to support Switch

[cold pollen]

I think he said Saturn connectors were hard to come by without wrecking a cord

[cold pollen]

I believe both versions of the firmware support switch but one of them has different controller IDs for MiSTer? Double check the Readme

[noble ember]

PSX and PC Engine/TG-16 controller support would be awesome

[weary beacon]

Now that RDP dithering is enabled, first VI feature to be implemented will be dedither?

[zinc dew]

No, next feature is to remove the dither option so you can’t turn it off

You will enjoy the Vaseline

[zenith orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/vaseline.ux!den-rardsuxd.-powered-bynmé-deepika-padukone-hindi-kulfy-gif-9739265174227946290

[carmine kettle]

i though gif was disable lol

[zinc dew]

We don’t want to stop people from posting gifs, just asking politely to really minimize their use.

And everyone has been extremely considerate.

[weary palm]

Maximized usage: https://originalhampster.ytmnd.com/

[rose crypt]

ooh what filters are you using?

[odd vector]

I tried Diddy Kong Racing yesterday. The PAL version does suffer from „stuttering“ sound. Tracks -> Everfrost Peak -> TT on.
The music always skips inbetween and is constant. Maybe it is something of use?

[zenith orchid]

Aren't racing games better with the NTSC version?

Nonetheless there shouldn't be issues with the PAL version

[quick arch]

There is a hack 60fps for diddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73taRE4CBk

[mellow raft]

That wouldn't run on original hardware 😛

[quick arch]

ok

[mellow raft]

Pretty sure

The description refers to modifying Project 64's refresh rate to get it to work

Sorry... I didn't need to attack you like that...

[quick arch]

No problem 🙂 Just checking if 60fps mod existed for this game !
There is also this video saying working on real hardware but no link so i presume other one will work but I ddin't test it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwibJLSgrRg

[mellow raft]

I should probably try it before spouting assumptions 😛

[manic basin]

Looks like it's Project64 Cheat Code based (the previous link) ...no idea how that translates to actual romhacks. That would be super cool even if it was just academic.

[mellow raft]

to be fair.... cheat codes can be arranged to modify the rom file itself with the right knowhow

But most 60FPS hacks sum up to essentially just overclocking the "virtual hardware" to boost speeds, which obviously won't work on original hardware of that era

[manic basin]

Is it just straight offset based or is it more like GameShark (where you need to know the mapping)?

Yeah, for sure.

[mellow raft]

I know people that do various rom modding. Most GameShark and such codes technically can be made to directly modify the rom itself. it's just easier to share codes around... and a lot more work to modify the rom directly

[manic basin]

Gotcha

[mellow raft]

Well... not ... necessarily more work to modify the rom directly

[carmine kettle]

GameShark or everdrive you can turn off blur using codes

[mellow raft]

For PS2... for example, it's mostly the same work, but the issue is that it's way easier to share codes as the PS2 doesn't have a popular patch format to my knowledge, unlike CD image patches like ppf or rom file patches like bps/ips

So you'd have to develop your own patching tools to distribute legally

This had to be done for the Kingdom Hearts hacking community for a while

But my point is... if this code actually edits the system-related stuff... which from the description is what it does.... like overclocking the CPU or such... that's outside the scope of a rom hack haha

[manic basin]

Up until now I just assumed PJ64 used a Lua-type solution and did instruction injection. I had no idea they actually did modification of ROM in memory. There are a ... lot of takes on Google though. Finding hard data is basically going to the project itself.

[mellow raft]

Kaze's work on rewriting Super Mario 64's engine to run 60FPS natively though, does work on native hardware

[manic basin]

Yes, it's rad!

[mellow raft]

Project64 has kind of evolved a bit since its initial iteration. it's the longest developed N64 emulator to my knowledge

Not the oldest, mind you

But it's been updated for the longest timespan I think

And yet... I still find PJ64 1.6 to run things better than any newer version xD

[manic basin]

Well, the oldest was technically that 99 proof of concept...which blew my mind and still does, honestly.

Like...DURING the lifespan of the console. Amazing.

[mellow raft]

You mean the one that used a Voodoo card?

[manic basin]

Yeah

[mellow raft]

yeah it really was wild...

I'm really itching to try Kaze's big Super Mario 64 romhack. The one that he's been working on for ages integrating his 60FPS modifications into

[manic basin]

His work is like a museum. If that makes any sense...it's these milestones of amazing work. Awestruck watching it.

[mellow raft]

yeah... even though a lot of the maths kind of runs over my head even... xD

[manic basin]

You know, I'd never tried the 60fps patch on the core before. It runs fairly well in the opening and inside the castle antechamber, but tanks when you enter a level (feels like the second week of playable Mario on the core). The fact it runs at all is bonkers.

Background audio has some issues. When you pause you get two frames like on an old two field comb pause on Laser Disk or SVHS.

Which is pretty funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmrjvm6HP8Y

It's really cool to see that high 40s/50s in the framerate counter though (enabled toward the end)

[languid dune]

Seems like that hack ties the game's speed to the frame rate, which is why it's running slow. Like playing Gradius III on my SNES!

[manic basin]

Yeah, I have no idea how bulletproof it is on real hardware either. Still just super cool.

(Playing SM64 at 60fps is an Xbox activity for me, usually)

[visual mortar]

Hello, anyone have rumble OK with n64 8bitdo mod?

[languid dune]

If it could be run at full speed with frame drops and VRR, that could be pretty awesome. VRR couldn't hide drops that hard, but it would at least make stuttering less noticable.

[zenith orchid]

Seems like it would be difficult to play when the framerate fluctuates that dramatically

[manic basin]

If folks wanna play around with it. (for MD5 20b854b239203baf6c961b850a4a51a2)

[hearty oar]

which mode are you using, and do you have the latest unstable linux kernel image (see pinned posts)?

[chilly ember]

Finished The World is Not Enough on agent

[hollow rune]

Goemon would be a thing now. It was just too early in the US. You could advertise it now as exactly what it is.

[oblique remnant]

Looks like a great adventure 😀

[viral swift]

😁

[eternal ravine]

Do you get to pilot the mech

Rocket Knight has funny mech action

[hearty oar]

I always found the whole "cover up the anime-ness" marketing of that era to be really odd, I'm pretty sure shows like Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon and Pokemon were exploding in popularity at or before that time, I remember as a kid actively seeking that sort of stuff out

[eternal ravine]

Sparkrobo!

[chilly ember]

Posting my World is Not Enough save if anyone wants it. There's still lots of things to unlock by playing the harder modes and completing levels quickly but maybe it will be of use to someone

off to bed for me

[vapid moat]

Never have seen this hot springs inn during the series, dope

[vapid moat]

F-Zero Machine VS Mad Piano

[short trellis]

So is there any way to play the translated version of Densha de Go at this point?

[junior yarrow]

I think you can play that just fine

oh nevermind the translation still doesnt boot weird

[short trellis]

Ah OK. I thought there was something I needed to do with that txt file.

[mild ether]

Never stop with the gifs and memes.

[red blade]

So I got rumble working on the nso N64 controller. (Great!) But my c down is bound to menu and I can't seem to redefine it. If I'm being an idiot please educate me.

[short trellis]

You need to define the buttons in the system menu first, before defining on a core level.

[red blade]

I'm an idiot, you are smart. I just need to get the menu button working now. I've done this so many times, it's a wonder that I didn't remember. Ta.

Also, playing Starfox N64 with rumble is very, very nostalgic!

Controls primer 😄

[chrome quest]

Very cool. Always love to see some manual sections, so often forgotten sadly.
If you wanted in English, since I was only digging around these a few days ago;
https://m1.nintendo.net/docvc/NUS/USA/NFXE/NFXE_E.pdf

[red blade]

It's from my original Starfox 64 big box purchase. I'm a little annoyed though as I have the game, all the literature but the rumble pack is AWOL. I need to dig around in my loft to try and find it.

[fleet glacier]

I have just released a script that will fetch and install the recommended NTSC and PAL bioses for the N64 core on my Github. (Link removed since some people think it is breaking some discord rules).

[fleet glacier]

This is probably not needed for most of us here, but some people might like to have it.

[weary palm]

That's illegal, you know

[spark granite]

I thought update_all already did that

[tropic sand]

Granted I'm not a moderator and realize you are being helpful with the script .. but discord terms say "Do not share content that violates anyone's intellectual property or other rights."

Grey area but ... Probably a good idea to remove the link

[fleet glacier]

What is? My script? In that case the updater scripts included with MiSTer are much more illegal than this. All it does is grab some files that are available on Github and have been for 2-3 years.

[safe robin]

afaik. update_all is not made by the people that run this discord and the downloader which is the official script is not downloading bios.

at least not without adding a custom entry to the ini

i honestly dont care but i bet the mods here will not like it

[maiden wyvern]

update_all and downloader are made by the same person

[raw oriole]

You can name the script here so people can search it up, but best not to link it

[daring meteor]

Third party scripts for MiSTer FPGA

[weary palm]

Yes, update_all is also doing illegal things. 🙂

[safe robin]

Dr evil "illegal".gif

[remote hatch]

we're all illegal

[safe robin]

The real problem is that every country has its own laws and for some it's more illegal than for others

[lament escarp]

I was somewhat hoping somebody would proclaim themself as a sovereign citizen and declare that the laws do not affect them.

[junior pine]

Hmm... I am 42 an I was 11 at Super Mario Bros. 3 heyday, around 1992 or so.
Someone who's 37 in 2023 was 6 in 1992, too young to play it.

[rose elbow]

get a mister!!!!

[devout leaf]

Last weekend I was playing PS1 and ordered Pizza Hut with the wife. They changed the crust and sauce. I was so sad.

For real. Wanted a hit of nostalgia and got sadness lol

[lament escarp]

We don't even have big pizza chains around here. Just a bunch of Italians.

[devout leaf]

We had a terrible pizza place nearby. After Covid they shut down and a new owner came in. The pizza is amazing now.

[lament escarp]

So what did battery acid taste like?

[devout leaf]

Old owner made a website and put up a few flyers saying it’s not their pizza so don’t blame them. Like, none of us are confused and want your bad food dude.

Wasabi licking batteries now and thinking it’s Olive Garden.

[chilly ember]

You knew what ketchup and marinara sauce tasted like before the battery acid?

I've licked a D battery back in the day so I can't say I can judge

Friend one day and told me that the Nintendo switch cartridges have some coating to prevent that

[lament escarp]

Did you also lick a nintenso switch cartridge? They're coated in some chemical to make them taste bitter.

[chilly ember]

Told me to try it and I did for the one time

Yea

I tried it

That's awful

Those meddling kids wanting to put switch cartridges in their mouth. Make that shit bitter, that'll teach em

Dog won't give a fuck. But I did lose shrek 2 on Gamecube back in 2005 because a friend's dog decided to chew the disc

Maybe the bitterness at least will stop the dogs with brain cells

[compact depot]

The Switch console, OTHO, smells great when it gets hot! 😍

[chilly ember]

Steam deck vents smell great until that smell fades away

[compact depot]

That’s me with the Switch haha

[safe robin]

omg im not the only one

[compact depot]

We are many!

[hybrid spade]

PAL rogue squadron plays better than NTSC now!

[devout leaf]

I love my dog and miss him but remember coming home and seeing he found a way to my Dark Souls Trilogy. One bite on each disc to see if it was a toy.

[knotty zealot]

nothing of value was lost

[lament escarp]

Technically he beat dark souls. For a dog that's impressive.

[devout leaf]

Thanks for the early morning laugh about my little guy.

[velvet scaffold]

They got my age right and I did play Mario 3 at launch, but if it is saying Pizza Hut is arriving in 2023... this is the most unrealistic picture ever.

Nobody wants trash Pizza Hut. Even Little Ceasars is better. 🤢

[zinc dew]

@wanton sun had a thought, would be nice to assign a button to swapping between controller pak and rumble pak. It would be a lot easier than going into menus.

Can just be a linear swap list like how you have it when you select the option; cpak > rumble > none

[rose elbow]

finally a use for the 8bitdo big red buttons

[mortal panther]

#1096015979055697940 message

It's been discussed already.

...in case it was forgotten. 😉

[zinc dew]

Oh my god that’s TWICE

I’m so sorry 😭

[rose elbow]

if it happens a third time maybe pin it

[zinc dew]

that would honestly work for me fml

[rose elbow]

not a bad suggestion tho if possible. ive been playing banjo again tonight and completely forgot i didnt have the rumble enabled (granted that's a bit of a me problem lol)

the current implementation is totally fine to be fair

[zinc dew]

To simplify inplemention as much as possible (because that also benefits the user) it should just be a linear option swap. There should also be a UI display to correspond to when each option is enabled:

• P1: CPAK
• P1: RUMBLE
• P1: NONE

Even if the user has to press the button twice, that’s still a lot less button inputs and prompts to read as a result of needing to head into the main menu to change it.

A large amount of games support both Rumble and Controller Pak and ask you to swap them pretty regularly. So I feel this option would be a huge accessibility improvement.

[weary palm]

*39 years old

[native mesa]

I think he said he was gonna wait for someone else to do it in a PR

Like the PSX controller modes

[zinc dew]

I wish I knew how to do it in a PR 😭

[native mesa]

Lol is this a real ad?

[fair stump]

Is the formatting controller paks going to stay the way it is now?

[weary palm]

New (and final) version of my silly "Make Super Mario 64 and hacks of it run on this incomplete core" program: https://github.com/yxkalle/MarioDefacer/releases

[vapid hawk]

after playing a bunch of hydrothunder that wants you to swap to the cpak after each race then back to rumble before the next one, yes please

[zinc dew]

Yeah with some games it’s constant

[vapid hawk]

and if you use an OSD combo half the time you're going to accidentally advance off the switching screen before you swap

[weary palm]

good point

[knotty zealot]

plebs. learn2game.

[fair stump]

test build letting us play goldeneye? I'm looking forward to the day it happens

[zinc dew]

Oh you got the git gud error, next time don’t get shot

[safe robin]

From the Games that dont work yet Goldeneye is top on my wishlist 🙂

[dreamy ridge]

facility, 4-player, pistols, licence to kill, no oddjob

[solemn kayak]

I'm hoping for a Castlevania 64 Halloween

[dreamy ridge]

never played through that one...what's your 0-10 rating?

[remote hatch]

2.5

max

[native mesa]

Grottos work well in a 2D Zelda but they are just a pain in 3D

[vapid hawk]

no oddjob, no jaws

[solemn kayak]

I'll give a nostalgia bump out of clunky camera controls

[vapid hawk]

i always preferred just using -10 HP instead of license to kill mode. gives armour a purpose and makes different weapons matter slightly

[dreamy ridge]

lmao oooof

[remote hatch]

ok ok 3.0 🙂

[solemn kayak]

It didn't quite come together in 3d like Mario or Zelda, but I love the Castlevania aesthetic across the games

[vapid hawk]

0/10 i almost never touched another castlevania game ever afterwards

[solemn kayak]

It's not that bad, heh

[rose elbow]

i somehow both agree with this statement and also refutely disagree ahaha

castlevania 64 is right in the middle for me but probably does lean a little bit more on the "it kinda deserves the bad reputation"

but also its not that bad LOL

[native mesa]

SOTN had enough 3D for me

[rose elbow]

i'm keen to see jet force gemini in action. that game feels like it was pushing the hardware a little too far in not a great way

[vapid hawk]

seriously, its the first castlevania i played

i didn't try another one until SOTN came out on xbla

[rose elbow]

yeaaah

[remote hatch]

it must have been a tramatic experience 😄

[rose elbow]

i think i have nostalgia for it simply cos i do have a soft spot for this early period of 3D console games where the game has clear signs of developers figuring things out

[vapid hawk]

i remember it being overly difficult, having a lot of cheap ways to die, bad camera, dull looking levels, and save points being about 2 hours apart

[daring meteor]

Guys I can't belive it

[rose elbow]

good game

[safe robin]

Did you stumble upon a GameCube core? 😄

[vapid hawk]

you need to downscale it to 240p if you want it to look convincing 😛

[cerulean elk]

lol what a cruel joke

[daring meteor]

Honestly doesn't look much different but I planned to do it anyway lol

[visual mortar]

Im on dinput and Last unstable

[zinc dew]

lol do it for the halo infinite Greg photo

[native mesa]

What's Diddy doin in mario

[vapid hawk]

thats diddy kong racing

[remote hatch]

perfecto

[vapid hawk]

lol

[rose elbow]

is this real ?

[safe robin]

looks like Turok to me 😄

[wanton sun]

yes, in theory it's easy, but it's a lot of small tasks: detect button presses, not button held down. Switch OSD option from button press, update OSD, print message on screen (few chars only), do that for all 4 players. Do it in a way where it costs nearly nothing on ressources. It's a task anyone with light programming experience can do if they really want to invest the time. I might do it in the future if noone wants, but for now i'm back at researching VI...it's a mess. Doubt i can start implementing anything in the core soon, but let's see

[zealous hull]

Take all the time you need, Robert. We've got more than enough to play for now.

[wanton sun]

yes, i think if i leave the core as is for 2 weeks and then VI is ready, it's still not bad 🙂

[daring meteor]

Yes, with so many major games playable, take your time

[vapid hawk]

yeah its in a pretty awesome state right now

what makes the VI so complex?

[wanton sun]

the edge cases

[cerulean elk]

lol you deserve a break

[daring meteor]

Inb4 you do it this weekend and surprise everyone for the 98646838th time

[placid quiver]

Saturn has been every 2 months and that has been fun so 2 weeks is nothing in terms of how fun the core already is

[wanton sun]

markun already implemented all the main logic in the emulator and if we would be fine with cropping 2 pixels on each of the four screen borders it would work

[cerulean elk]

80% through Bomberman Hero. If this doesn't freeze in the last world should be marked as completable

which means core is done enough for me haha

[daring meteor]

Ohhh, it's the screen borders

[wanton sun]

but my goal is to understand it completly uncluding until the border calculations, so i don't have to redo stuff later on

[vapid hawk]

why would cropping 2px everywhere help?

[daring meteor]

2 pixels, not one?

[daring meteor]

Border calculations

[wanton sun]

yes, screen border is hard, e.g. when you do AA and have no pixels on one side 🙂

[placid quiver]

It's amazing how much such little things can add up

[vapid hawk]

thats fine its way less than overscan anyway

[raw oriole]

Literal edge case

[daring meteor]

Why is it 2px and not 1?

Because horizontal pixel doubling?

[zinc dew]

Yes it’s always the hidden support needs that render a seemingly simple task to be extremely complex. I genuinely appreciate you answering my silly request though.

If I could help you I would!

[wanton sun]

AA is done on a 5x3 area

[daring meteor]

Ah, 5x3. So 1 on one axis

[wanton sun]

if you want it really exact: edge case is for 2 pixels left/right and 1 pixel top/bottom 😉

[vapid hawk]

and the alternative is to make the AA work at the screen edges anyway i guess?

handling for null input samples

[daring meteor]

The alternative is doing what the N64 did

[zealous hull]

It's not as if many CRTs wouldn't have "cut off" even more than that anyway.

[broken viper]

How bad would it be to integer overscan it by the smallest amount of off screen space? That is the setting I'd probably use if it was like 5% screen space or less.

[wanton sun]

i'm a no-crop user, i want the full thing 😆

[primal bolt]

we need an Ultra 64 core

[vapid hawk]

what if you just kept the pixels but didn't do AA on them

[wanton sun]

you get some artifact on the border pixels, not nice

[vapid hawk]

is that even noticable though ? its in such a tiny portion of the screen

[broken viper]

Clearly the only solution is to make an entire gamecube core and have it emulate the n64.

[wanton sun]

but that's only one edge case, there are others. i really want to understand it first

[vapid hawk]

fair enough, i appreciate you taking the time to do it properly 🙂

[wanton sun]

even if it takes 1 week longer, what is that compared to the scale of the project 🙂

i still have 3 months until christmas, haha

[daring meteor]

VI has many effects, if you manage to get and understand em so quickly, chapeau

[weary perch]

🎅

[cerulean elk]

VI is going to be in Santa's sack lol

[terse canyon]

89 days

[silent marten]

I still think you are gonna surprise us with TLB at Christmas

[broken viper]

You could just take a week off and everyone with a brain would still thank you. If you are taking a week to obsess over minor improvements to really polish the core that's just being super dedicated.

[daring meteor]

He's gonna surprise us with TLB on Halloween

[zealous hull]

I have absolutely zero expectations, it's just always a treat when a new release happens, whenever it does.

[vapid hawk]

at the current rate we'll be moving on to testing the new nguage core or whatever by xmas

[daring meteor]

Mike looks dead here

[terse canyon]

its all them electrons

[broken viper]

That's when they talk about electrons moving through reality being how fpgas operate rofl

[wanton sun]

ok, but why is their pif not working?

[daring meteor]

They tried to play banjo tooie

[weary palm]

Not enough electrons, I guess

[solemn kayak]

Big Ryan fan

[wanton sun]

would be a nice 1st april core: everytime banjo tooie asks the pif to decrypt a string, instead the user gets asked to decrypt it. if the answer is wrong, the game crashes. Like some games required you to look up words in old manuals, just...harder

[daring meteor]

Lmao

Whenever the core releases fully I'm gonna unfix the bug that gave Pikachu 3 eyes

[cerulean elk]

I’d love a few days off lol. I want to play some of these games. Rush 2 is calling my name

I don’t need AA or blur to throw cars around the tracks (and crash a lot)

[lament escarp]

Yeah this game randomly freezes...

[lament escarp]

This and tlb for Christmas is not mutually exclusive, santa comes on december the 6th and Christmas is on the 24th in Germany.

[cerulean elk]

Three Mile Island Pikachu must return

[zinc dew]

The hero we didn’t need but the hero we deserve!

[daring meteor]

Maybe we'll discover more bugs this secretly fixed

[wanton sun]

if you want more eyes, just shift the texture address so that it repeats even more often

well, this could mess up all other textures as well...

[cerulean elk]

I thought that was you?

[daring meteor]

All hail the seraphim

[cerulean elk]

We’ve lost haunted Link face, no face Mario, extra eyes Pikachu. I think these core updates have taken more than they’ve given

[daring meteor]

Isn't the Mario Face and the Pikachu the same update

[north lagoon]

Will Mario 64 work soon without patch 😉?

[zinc dew]

It works right now but you need a MiSTer Platinum subscription.

[rose elbow]

MiSTer Shiny Edition

[daring meteor]

Mister Ultimate

[north lagoon]

Srry i dont understand

[vapid hawk]

i don't think he was joking - the answer is no, it wont be working soon

maybe early next year if we're lucky

[cerulean elk]

I only have tin. Damn

[mortal panther]

Sir MiSTer, Esquire

[drowsy lantern]

Games not being overscanned on modern displays really makes see all the little flaws that they thought would forever just be hidden offscreen. Like Zelda OOT whenever there's a circle transition, the 4 corners are not covered and it annoys me to no end.

[safe robin]

its funny because you would think to draw 2 polygons to clean the screen would make everything perfectly dark

no idea how they managed to get the edges not black

[vapid hawk]

btw i asked MagicTrashman about his brawler64 trigger mods, since they wern't on his store, he's got a new refined design and he's just waiting on some switch parts, should be available to order soon

[mellow path]

have you ever gotten tested for ADHD

[weary beacon]

Ocarina of time actual framerate

[weary beacon]

Noticed this yesterday too

[north lagoon]

TTL features will be implemented only next year?

[drowsy lantern]

Would there be a way to provide an overscanning adjustment option in MiSTer?

I mean the NES core does provide this.

You can add borders on left/right to hide all the junk graphics that were in the overscanned area

[zenith orchid]

I remember the SNES addressed the overscan by reducing the draw space by two rows, so instead of 240 it's 224. maybe it was also for performance reasons, which wasn't a concern on N64

[orchid nimbus]

should have been a '000040' 😄

[bronze tree]

Interesting, me and my mom have the same issue with caffeine, didn't know it might be ADHD

[zealous hull]

I'm confused by what you're both saying and asking?

[kind solar]

adhd is heritable

i'm dxed and my mum is so painfully adhd

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/memes/

the meme collection for this channel is up

if anyone has more sent them my way

[raw oriole]

Surely 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

that's a sticker

I can't save it 😦

[raw oriole]

Memes are just screenshots now 😄

[vapid hawk]

"1 game working by xmas" needs to be in there

[orchid nimbus]

fine 😄

yeah it will be there 😄

[raw oriole]

I'm sure we can find a higher res original...

[round rune]

Doing 4x 8bitdo mod kits for my setup. Will I gain anything by introducing blueretro before snac? Is there a cheaper way to introduce blueretro without buying 4x receivers and 4x snac adapters?

[raw oriole]

You can only attach one snac device at a time, so that seems kinda pointless. Just use usb/bt for the modkits direct.

[round rune]

Oh wow I had no idea

[orchid nimbus]

@jaime those are conversion kids

BT

oh you read that

[raw oriole]

Yeah, that's what I mean

[orchid nimbus]

😛

[raw oriole]

Only one SNAC port (the "user port") on a MiSTer

[vapid hawk]

yeah using snac for this will only more lag

oddly

[round rune]

Thank y’all for saving me $

[raw oriole]

And SNAC is for connecting original devices only

[vapid hawk]

just get a decent bt dongle and connect them all direct

[raw oriole]

Once you've done the conversion they're just bluetooth controllers

[vapid hawk]

they would work, through blueretro like they suggested, it's just expensive and pointless

[raw oriole]

Yeah, converting bt->usb->back to native then through snac is just pointless, gains nothing

You can use multitaps with SNAC to add more than one controller at a time - but there's no n64 multitap AFAIK

[vapid hawk]

porkchops working on a snac64 that has 4 ports, you can plug 2 aleady if you have snax

[raw oriole]

Schmexy!

[round rune]

My use case is “pizza night”, not tournament accurate anyways.

[vapid hawk]

you should be fine on regular BT, make sure and test it before pizza night and make sure all 4 pads work at once

[raw oriole]

Yeah, just get the conversion kits and a bluetooth nub - or wait for Pork's snac64 and use original unconverted wired/wavebird

[vapid hawk]

some bt dongles get weird when you start attaching a lot of stuff at the same time

[raw oriole]

asus bt500 is solid choice, if you don't have one

[round rune]

Ordered that, thank you

I’ve got a bt dongle that’s also serving as Wi-Fi, but I’m going to run Ethernet to it and offload the networking task to hopefully get the better performance from a dedicated bt dongle.

[native mesa]

Who needs VI anyway

[mellow path]

I generally only use VIM

but once in a while I'll ssh into a machine that only has VI

[vapid hawk]

sudo apt get nano

fixes vi right up

[mellow path]

Once you get used to hjkl'ing you never wanna go back

[vapid hawk]

i refuse to waste precious brain space learning anything so stupid

[mellow path]

the biggest waste imo is the time spent moving from home row to your arrow keys

[compact depot]

I bet Nintendo was lazy and just applied AA with the pixel from the opposite border 😛

No one would notice that because of the Vaseline on the eyes 😄

[hollow rune]

What does VI stand for?

[tulip coral]

Vas-I-line

[mortal panther]

Visual 'Improvements'?

[surreal summit]

In reality: Video Interface, on here: Vasaline Inducer

[hollow rune]

I guess I just don't understand how it relates to anti aliasing

[mortal panther]

They wouldn't have needed all of that convoluted multi-step bullshit if they had just included the necessary RAM for better textures to begin with.

[orchid nimbus]

:q!

nano is just easier

VI is just word pervert 5.1

I love keyboard shortcuts but I don't feel like dealing with terminal/ssh shortcomings

[mortal panther]

It's Roman numeral. It really stand for the N64's 'Mode 6'.

[orchid nimbus]

all my reactions in 1 image

[weary beacon]

Video Interface

[daring meteor]

Isn't mode 6 the wobbling effect?

[compact depot]

I bet some of those are because the lack of VI

[native mesa]

I'd like VI traded for higher color depth

[manic basin]

LOVE the repo name!

[native mesa]

Sans VI and dithering is near perfect except for color banding

[hollow rune]

Will it get rid of the Banjo Kazzoie black splotch syndrome

[orchid nimbus]

the only VI i like is FF VI

[orchid nimbus]

you're a panda.... they have black splodges

[north lagoon]

I know that mario 64 will work need a patch because TTL feature is not implemented. I asked if the feature will be implemnted soon. Someone answer me will be next year if we have luck ...

[native mesa]

Robert just wants everything complete before it

[primal bolt]

Fire Pro Wrestling VI Man Scramble

[north lagoon]

Ah ok thanks 🙂

[native mesa]

I doubt it will be next year though. Depends how long VI takes and all the minor stuff

[solemn kayak]

JK of course

[native mesa]

Not sure how he spends his holidays if that gives him more time or oless

[manic basin]

(non repeating since it's a video mit sound)

[hollow rune]

Yeah, like my black fur, but like on the screen. It used to happen in Brian 64 and Smash but the last build got rid of it. Now it is still in other games like Banjo Kazooie. Am I the only one seeing it?

[zenith orchid]

Glad to know VI is now the focus. As I'd really like to play through the Zelda games for the first time with as close to the original experience as possible

Though maybe I'll change my mind and forego the blur for soft interpolation, if it gets the job done while looking better at the same time

[cerulean elk]

Wimmy wham wham wazzle!

[fair stump]

Would you be able to post a screenshot? I tried loading banjo the other day but didn't know where I should be looking

[orchid nimbus]

sorry I can't post videos on my website

[manic basin]

Sad Riker Noise

No worries.

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/memes/

added

😉

[weary palm]

Thanks. Excuse my bad c++. xD

[manic basin]

Yours probably looks like a masterwork compared to mine.

[dense wagon]

as someone who learn't c/c++ via the use of CERN's ROOT analysis package... which includes a C interpreter that lets you get away with some shady crap... everyones C++ is a masterwork compared to mine haha

[hollow rune]

I'll try to take a video

it is hard to catch with a picture

[orchid nimbus]

I am also looking for cool screenshots of the core at work - so I can make a rotating showcase on my FAQ

prefered no FPS or errors on screen

minimal 600 pixels wide

[fair stump]

Anything specific?

[orchid nimbus]

cool screenshots

scenes

actions

intro screens that look cool

I'm too lazy to make them all myself

around 50 would be nice to have

[fair stump]

#1096015979055697940 message

That's all you need

[manic basin]

I have mario face planting into concrete and locking the core (not a bug, per se....60fos hack). It's kinda brutal looking.

[chilly ember]

How bout 64?

[orchid nimbus]

flawless screenshots please 😄

[fair stump]

I would grab some but that means I'd have to do a bunch of scaling myself, right?

[orchid nimbus]

no

the page auto scales for me

just minimal size

[fair stump]

Like this?

[weary beacon]

I had issues getting most games to run even on the current core. Is the vampier database step required or optional? What is the .cic file for? Sorry if these questions have already been answered, i was checking the search function beforehand, but couldn't find anything.

[native mesa]

You'll have to wait for the VI update before it's 640 pixels wide

[orchid nimbus]

yup

[vagrant ivy]

CIC is the Anti Piracy part of the N64

[orchid nimbus]

wider is better though

800px

1600px

[fair stump]

That's just with the screenshot function. That's why I asked about scaling

[weary beacon]

Found the vampier guide, thanks. Will go through it!

[fair stump]

Setup is now just run update all and add the test rbf?

[prisma ivy]

I'm on the latest build (I just ran update_all and my downloader.ini has that line for n64_dev) . No-intro SM64 with no face patch applied and it still freezes after the logo. Are y'all using FIPS to apply patches? Is that what I'm doing wrong?

[oblique remnant]

you need the no face patch

[prisma ivy]

yes

[versed cairn]

it looks pretty sharp if you nearest neighbor upscale

[weary palm]

or my tool

[hollow rune]

@fair stump If you look at this video fullscreen you can see it on the bottom most part of the screen. Imagine this only more dramatic

[versed cairn]

500% upscale in photoshop. 1600x1185

[oblique remnant]

you need the no brian patch

[fair stump]

Oh that's weird, I'll run around and look for it

[hollow rune]

it doesn't show up in brian anymore

Banjo has it bad though

[fair stump]

Like all over the ground in the starting area?

[hollow rune]

I can't remember if spiral mountain has it but the first stage for sure

[versed cairn]

and you have dithering on?

[fair stump]

Sitting through this intro for the fourth time

Rare didn't just want you to hop right in

[versed cairn]

I think they got the memo when the game first came out cause the sequel lets you skip

[weary palm]

https://github.com/yxkalle/MarioDefacer/releases/tag/1.0b

sorry for the self-promotion

[quaint pewter]

don't be. your tool worked great on HTGDB US Mario64 when the first patch I used didn't seem to do anything. (probably user error but still)

[fair stump]

Running around in front of his house and grabbing the first honeycomb thing I didn't see that. I have dithering and texture filtering on and a scanline preset

[prisma ivy]

crap. My rom ends in .n64

[weary palm]

It should work anyway. I made it multi endianness-able. ;P

[prisma ivy]

cool. It tells me it removed two whole faces so that's good lol

[weary palm]

all good

[hollow rune]

Weird

I will try to get video

[autumn marsh]

what's the best usb converter for using original n64 pads on mister?

[weary palm]

People say good things about Raphnet's adapters. They're a bit pricey though.

[prisma ivy]

Thank you very much. It works now!

[weary palm]

Rumble works with Raphnet

[prisma ivy]

Playing this with an N64 controller on the MiSTer.... wow. I didn't know I wanted this core so much but man I am loving it.

[weary beacon]

snac/blisster/raphnet/8bitdo or even chinese cheapo's work fine. It's really up to your needs.

[oblique remnant]

I ordered some raphnets. they declared the YEN Value in USD oooh bwoay hopefully that takes a smooth ending 😦

[fair stump]

Just look at the difference. Especially since it's the way the console was, I'll take the dither and texture filter version every time

[odd vector]

Wow i must say, finally got the time to mess with the new version. This progress is so brutal! I‘m absolutely stunned!

[prisma ivy]

Do I need to change any settings in the core in order for games to save progress?

[weary beacon]

start game, go into menu and format cpak, reset core. Saving will work then.

[quaint pewter]

If you have the database you should be set for the official released games.

[stoic parcel]

"If you don't like it, you can turn it off in the OSD." thank you Robert, thank you so much

[weary palm]

With Raphnet you can read/write paks with a open-source tool, so I guess that's cool.

[primal bolt]

do u like it

be honest

[odd vector]

No absolutely dislike it

[primal bolt]

i think its great

[odd vector]

[primal bolt]

try WCW Backstage Assault

you can hit man with weapon

is good

I like to hit

[odd vector]

When Goemon works I will play it all over again ❤️

[primal bolt]

can we hit people in goemon

i thought it does work

[fair stump]

Only the intro to Mystical Ninja

[primal bolt]

ohhh ok

[odd vector]

Hm, weird reaction on my crt with lego racers

[primal bolt]

whats wrong with it

[lethal wren]

60hz game on 50hz screen?

[odd vector]

Flickers all over the place. Seems like it wont sync

[primal bolt]

oh thats a PAL TV?

bang tv

[odd vector]

Pal tv, yeah

Snes does work though

[weary palm]

looks like a Bang Olofsen

MX7000 or something

[chilly ember]

Hit em with the chair

[lethal wren]

If the game is US version it might explain your issue

[lean spruce]

I have a B&O MX3500 and had the same issue on the N64 core. It will probably be fixed in the end.

[primal bolt]

what about other ntsc n64 games

[weary palm]

I think those sets are multi region. Most 90s sets are

[odd vector]

Aye, Fzero does work us

Psx ntsc also works

[primal bolt]

could just be some games

yea but what about n64

PSX is done

so is SNES

[odd vector]

F-Zero does work

[mellow raft]

But F-Zero 99 exists

[primal bolt]

I know only one resolution is really supported for analogue at th emoment

[weary palm]

Does the core generate a "good" analog signal yet though?

[primal bolt]

try WWF No Mercy see what happens

USA

[quaint pewter]

I would need a non-modded switch and a sub for that tho 🙂

[lean spruce]

true analog output is not implemented yet. I saw the recommendation to turn on scaler for analog for now

[mellow raft]

I thought modded switches can safely go online as long as you keep the sysnand unmodified?

I do that with mine, though mine is softmodded due to being hackable

[primal bolt]

alot of the games are squished for me

with black on the sides

[lean spruce]

yeah, I couldnt even see the OSD on my tv

[primal bolt]

itll be fixed

[terse canyon]

they can, i got mine banned by following a dodgey mod video on youtube, so unless there are alt servers i can never play f-zero 99 lol

[odd vector]

Same

[odd vector]

Do i have to go through the hdmi out then?

[primal bolt]

yea its something that has to do with resolution not supported yet for analog... itll be fixed later

[mellow raft]

sorry to hear... yeah there's a lot of false recommendations like removing the serial from the Switch or installing ticketless NSP's

[quaint pewter]

Mine is a soft mod too and I haven't used or updated the machine for a couple of years so it would need a big sort out to do anything I imagine. I think the last game I played on it was Snack World

[primal bolt]

yes on flat panel

[lean spruce]

No, its a ini setting and then you have to put in resolution for the core

[mellow raft]

should be fairly simple. Just update sysmmc, then dump the sysmmc and use daybreak to update your emummc with the dump

You don't need to redo the emummc, and should keep all your saves, installs, and data

[primal bolt]

certain resolutions of certain games dont look right on analog / CRT yet

on my NTSC TV its squished... on your PAL/NTSC Bang TV its jibberish

same problem different result

nothing you can do for now

other than use HDMI and flat panel

for those games that dont display right on CRT yet

@odd vector

[odd vector]

I will try the scaler thingy and hope it works, else I will just wait for true analog out 🙂

[primal bolt]

yea itll be fixed soon im sure

im waiting too

[surreal summit]

Both those games display correctly over S-Video/Composite with the Y/C build. I'm assuming you are using RGB?

[odd vector]

na, scaler does just output garbage for all my mister

[lean spruce]

you have to put the resolution in the mister ini for [N64] core

otherwise its probably trying to output 1080p if you have that set

[mellow raft]

the key thing is to be sure ALL your wifi is either deleted or has the custom DNS set, and then also make sure you have the hosts file set up properly to block it at the Switch level. The Switch is wonky when it comes to using DNS settings, which is why deleting them all is recommended before creating your emummc (don't forget ethernet too so you don't accidentally dock it on an ethernet-connected dock

My three biggest pieces of advice @quaint pewter :

1. Avoid the Rentry guide website. Many have been banned following those instructions. (especially using the sigpatches from there. do not use those) Use this guide https://nh-server.github.io/switch-guide/ and this guide https://suchmememanyskill.github.io/guides/switchdumpguide/ instead.
2. Doublecheck everything regarding mitigations from the first guide. If the DNS or hosts is not in place, it's possible the data will be sent to Nintendo. And DO NOT remove the serial or use Incognito. And do not start up the Tinfoil app. It will automatically patch the sysnand which can lead to a ban.
3. NEVER install NSP's to the sysnand. This will initiate an immediate ban.

if you follow everything, there is no likelihood of getting banned really. Also, they will never ban your account contrary to beliefs... they'll just ban the Switch itself. If you buy a new switch then you can use your account and download your games. Account bans are only ever done for things like fraud (credit card chargebacks/etc)

[lean spruce]

@odd vector try this:

[odd vector]

Thanks, let's try!

[mellow raft]

https://x.com/Nintendeal/status/1706875307456868736?s=20

Nintendeal (@Nintendeal)

I can’t not see it wtf

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[odd vector]

still a mess 😦

[weary palm]

That can't be real

[lean spruce]

probably an AI image combining DK and buildings 🙂

[mellow raft]

Pretty sure it's AI haha

[lean spruce]

you will have to wait patiently and play on a ghetto LCD for now 🙂

[versed cairn]

is it the same for all games or just this one? and it's the pal version right?

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/showcase/

put a 1 page showcase together

[lean spruce]

thats great @orchid nimbus !

[orchid nimbus]

if anyone has more cool screenshots sent them my way

https://vampier.net/N64/memes/

here are the memes

[versed cairn]

amazing stuff! i'll see if I can make some cool screenshots tonight

[orchid nimbus]

just DM them to me

there will be rotating showcase on the FAQ as well

[odd vector]

nope ntsc games have issues. Mario 64 also works

[wanton sun]

if anyone wants to change the compat sheet: 1080 Snowboarding ntsc is completeable. Completed all modes now so i can race with a panda on a pengiun 🙂

[graceful radish]

The dream!

[odd vector]

wait, there is a panda?

[versed cairn]

i'll edit it now for ya

[wanton sun]

well kind of. Rob can wear a panda head

[native mesa]

morbid

[odd vector]

^^

[surreal summit]

Tried forcing PAL output in the menu? If you can't see the menu it is: Menu > 15 Down> Select > 2 Down > Select.

[odd vector]

yeah 1080 also no flickering on my crt 😮

[native mesa]

Is that what the criteria for completing is? Credits rolling? like a speedrun

[wanton sun]

depends a lot on the game? you could see credits rolling in mario64 quite fast, but then there is still 80% of the game left

[native mesa]

I wonder if RARE ever did the fake credits again like in DKC