Nintendo 64

[cerulean elk]

Oof

[native mesa]

He's not wrong

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew you hear that?

Nobody is saying that about Bomberman Hero

[manic basin]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-trash-oskar-trash-sesame-street-sesamstrasse-gif-21433618

Risking a gif.

[native mesa]

I'm partial to mighty bomb jack

[cerulean elk]

Oh man the GameCenterCX episode on that is so good

[manic basin]

"Bomberman dropped bombs to find his way back home, but Mighty Bomb Jack picked them all up and he was lost."

[native mesa]

Never seen it

[cerulean elk]

Sadly it seems like all the fan translations on YT have been purged

[manic basin]

It's on the org of archiving.

With subs.

[native mesa]

Blast!

[manic basin]

Oh, there's an English anouncer as well. Cool!

[brisk drum]

It’s cool , the quota is two gifs and hour

And they have to be spot on , I’d say that qualifies

[manic basin]

I really love the Milon's Secret Castle ep.

[cerulean elk]

Funny I’m usually good for twice an hour too

[cerulean elk]

I wish they were all translated

[brisk drum]

Settle down skippy!

[manic basin]

So Kotaku brought them over?

[cerulean elk]

Sir this is a Jif household

[cerulean elk]

Some. Some people did fan translations too

[manic basin]

IT'S PRONOUNCED GNUT BUTTER

[brisk drum]

That shit got high fructose bro

[cerulean elk]

We actually only eat natural peanut butter but the joke doesn’t land the same

[brisk drum]

Y’all need to recognize the superiority of all natural PB

Well nvm then

[graceful radish]

Reflex Adapt does OEM N64 controllers justice. Only 2 milliseconds of latency and no need to pull apart a controller. Might even get rumble soon. MIGHT.

[cerulean elk]

G-Unit butter. Costs 50-cents a jar

[manic basin]

I"m watching it on Archive. Recommended, it's a very good episode!

[cerulean elk]

Oh they are on archive? Hit me up with a link

[native mesa]

Can I do it while I paint or do I need my eyes

[brisk drum]

First one to beat Brian’s game wins the core

[manic basin]

It's subtitled, so probably need those eyes.

[old iris]

I don’t need it, it will work just as well on a pro micro, but it costs 10 times less)

[void pawn]

There’s no HFCS in Jif or Skippy or even Kroger FWIW. Sugar, yes. Also there is sugar in many of the “natural” PBs

[calm anvil]

wonder what im doing wrong then.... hmm

[brisk drum]

True ./

[old iris]

Moreover, I have daemonbite adapters for other systems and snac for ps1

[graceful radish]

You just need someone to write the firmware and make the PCB for you. Easy peasy!

[brisk drum]

Doesn’t matter what Pb you buy all the profits go to the PB industrial complex anyways

[native mesa]

Pb sucks without sugar

[void pawn]

Big Peanut

[brisk drum]

The Pb oligarchs

They rule everything main

[brisk drum]

Big peanut tm

[mortal panther]

™️

[old iris]

there is a solution for pro micro way

[manic basin]

I've seen that guy. He's terrifying. The horrors in his top hat are unfathomable.

[brisk drum]

You are just part of the problem man

Wake up bro

[graceful radish]

Then why did you ask?

Haha

[old iris]

The thing is that due to sanctions I cannot pay and deliver goods from your store

[brisk drum]

Oh shit ..things just got too spicy for the pepper

[graceful radish]

Thankfully reflex adapt is based on the pro micro and is open source

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-boom-president-gif-25950649

[old iris]

I asked, they answered me) I didn’t know anything about this before)

[chrome quest]

Sadly no boot success. Same as regular OoT, line in the corner. There must be a bunch of these alt Zelda's around.
On the other hand....
Fan creation 1997 Spaceworld OoT works! https://github.com/z64proto/sw97#zelda-spaceworld-97-experience
Got a crash after a while (same corner line with no visible error code).

@cerulean elk if you'd also be interested in this one. Alot more to show before a crash than the temple demo

[compact skiff]

Rumble works well with DualShock 3

[cerulean elk]

I’ll def check it out

[bitter fjord]

here. that's MUCH better. I switched it to NSO mode too. It turns out it doesn't register c up and c left buttons on MiSTer when in direct input mode

[manic basin]

I don't want to alarm anyone, but I am starting to think this Gannondorf character is not a nice guy....

[dusty tusk]

I'm sure he's just a victim of circumstance

[cerulean elk]

Dorf Goes Fishing. I remember that one

[eternal ravine]

High Comedy indeed
Bury his legs for a laugh

[cerulean elk]

Oktoberfest dinner in progress for our German friends

Little short on mustard though 🤣

Knockwurst, curry wurst, bockwurst, giulia, smoked thuringer, Oktoberfest brat and big pork potato ring

And boiled red cabbage with apple cider vintage and allspice, boiled potatoes we grew with oil and chives and of course sauerkraut

[brisk drum]

Goddang !

Best Oktoberfest celebrations outside of Germany happen in Wisconsin

[brisk drum]

If you ever wanna experience a proper Oktoberfest swing on down

[cerulean elk]

Down? You are up!

Mmmmm

[thin field]

Las salchichas son hervidas? No van sofritas?

[cerulean elk]

Sausages something something no beans?

[brisk drum]

“The sausages ought to be boiled not fried “

[cerulean elk]

My Spanish is non existent

[brisk drum]

I got you dawg

[cerulean elk]

Boiled them finished on the pan for the little bit of color

[rapid prairie]

Those look great! The wifey and I always make homemade pretzels and have brats simmered in beer and onions for Oktoberfest

[brisk drum]

I would share but brat recipe but it’s a secret

[cerulean elk]

Might be a tiny bit too much food for two people

[languid dune]

I'd wear it!

[cerulean elk]

Meh it’s a Wisconsin recipe. So I know it’s not as good as mine

[brisk drum]

Come down and find out dawg

[languid dune]

Wisconsin food is the best! We have kringle!

[orchid nimbus]

Eh….. what the hell are you doing?

You boil this one 🙂

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-jerry-seinfeld-shudder-gif-3979544

[zealous hull]

I see

Ignore me

I don't know what I'm talking about.

[sonic temple]

Hello ! the n64 core does heat up the de10nano like no other core XD. Is this something to worry about ?

[zealous hull]

Does it?

[languid dune]

Who the heck boils hot dogs and/or brats!?

Madness!

[zealous hull]

I thought the FPGA would run about the same temp regardless.

[orchid nimbus]

Also - where the heck is this?

Mild and sharp flavors

[languid dune]

Eh, I'm more of a catsup person myself.

[surreal summit]

From what I understand it is generally the ARM/Linux side that produces the most heat.

[warped patrol]

Well, this is terrifying

[zinc dew]

That’s how it was in the original game

[orchid nimbus]

Yup it is

[warped patrol]

Huh, I never noticed it before

[orchid nimbus]

Was it really?

[zinc dew]

You must’ve haven’t played the haunted version

No lol I’m sorry

I was trying to make a funny

But now I feel bad since you believed me

[desert nest]

😂 the timing of those messages made me think @orchid nimbus was in on it

[warped patrol]

Lol, I thought vampier was agreeing with you 😆

[zinc dew]

lol

[orchid nimbus]

Yes that’s why my follow up message

I will never agree with @zinc dew

[zinc dew]

It’s such a strange bug

Most other textures appear correct

But not her eyes lol, so weird

[manic basin]

ONE OF US

[zealous hull]

My game looked like that, but only when I found grandma's secret candy.

[cerulean elk]

You see the water?

[spark granite]

what is this reflect adapter I see mentioned and where can I get one?

[zealous hull]

https://misteraddons.com/products/reflex-adapt

[compact depot]

Sup bratwurst channel peeps

[brisk drum]

Robert is gonna wake up and be like wtf..

[spark granite]

and then you need an N64 to HDMI adapter?

[zealous hull]

To be honest, I don't know. I don't have one. The page probably gives details.

[graceful radish]

Yep the Adapt handles a bunch of different controller types so controller adapters are needed

Next batch in October/November

[surreal summit]

Estimate on SNAX 64? When the core is feature complete?

[graceful radish]

Second prototype comes next week. Still finalizing enclosure then production of PCB + enclosure. Could be 1-2 months. There isn’t much to get wrong. It already works with 4 controller. No rumble or transfer pak but those all use the same data line as controls.

[worn delta]

Do you think it could work with VMU and Denshe De Go controller OK?

[orchid nimbus]

I what I see is an overheated knockwurst that burst open because it boiled inside first 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Sold out

[orchid nimbus]

Hehehee

You never grew up around them Germans 🙂

[cerulean elk]

That’s a Chicago standard knockwurst right there. You go to Oktoberfest and it’s pan boiled half in water. I stand by my sausages!

[orchid nimbus]

I stand by my bbq-ed ones 🙂

[calm anvil]

I'm still waiting with baited breath for the mister express 😄

[orchid nimbus]

Here is how I roll 😉

[orchid nimbus]

Keep on waiting

[cerulean elk]

Evidence of cracking!

Also I think we’ve turned chat into sausage talk tonight 🤣

[orchid nimbus]

It’s a sausage fest

[cerulean elk]

She ain’t much to look at but a perfectly prepared ring sausage cooked to perfection from raw. Zero signs of casing breach!

[orchid nimbus]

Brats are supposed to burst a tiny amount

Even in you ‘brat’ them

[cerulean elk]

Those skinny things are brats?? Up above

What kind of California dreaming sausages they selling out on the west coast? Lol

[orchid nimbus]

Which brings me to the next point - when @cerulean elk eats a brat it’s a bacon wrapped brat 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Logic checks out 😂

[orchid nimbus]

but cool 🙂 what kind did you all get?

I always complain about US mustard too btw

meanwhile in the US

[zealous hull]

b-but but...it's classic

[cerulean elk]

We have Maille. Lotta Eastern European mustards too. And some Jewish deli stuff. No “American” mustard here

[worn delta]

There is a food channel guys...

[cerulean elk]

The Brian 64 of mustard; bland and useless

[cerulean elk]

I brought it back to gaming see! 😂

[orchid nimbus]

@cerulean elk brother! 😄

is there a game about mustard?

[zealous hull]

Cluedo

[orchid nimbus]

"Mustard is a character in The Isle of Armor expansion of Pokémon Sword and Shield. He is a former champion of the Galar region who reigned for eighteen years. He also trained the current champion, Leon. On the Isle of Armor, Mustard heads a dojo dedicated to Pokémon battles."

[thin field]

Me encanta la mostaza amarilla clásica

[orchid nimbus]

English

[thin field]

Why?

[mellow path]

Rumble works on mayflash wiiu gc adapter ✌️

[zealous hull]

"I love classic yellow mustard"

[orchid nimbus]

because if I speak in my native tongue you won't be able to understand me either - and this whole server would be a mess if everyone did

see rules

[zealous hull]

I accept you for who you are, Vampier

[orchid nimbus]

I don't

[vague cedar]

x

[orchid nimbus]

never settle and be complacent

[surreal summit]

Made it into the RPD in RE2. System RAM size: 4MByte. Debug settings Cache Delay: 4 DDR3 Delay: 24.

[zealous hull]

Is anybody else currently here using a NAS to save/load from?

Save files, not games.

[cerulean elk]

Ooh fun

[weary beacon]

Yes, games and saves.

[orchid nimbus]

Yes

[eternal ravine]

I wish I could find the Gamefan review of that quest game on the N64
Pretty sure it was another product of their drug usage

[manic basin]

It's on Archive.

[zealous hull]

Thanks both of you. I know Robert said he'd like to see CPAK saves tested over network.

[manic basin]

Issue 05-12

[eternal ravine]

AKA the western version of Eltale Monsters

Whoa, nice find

[mortal panther]

Of course you would have that ready...

lol

[zealous hull]

It was less than 2 minutes...

[weary beacon]

Tested with Rush 2049. Works.

[brisk drum]

A mi tambien

[eternal ravine]

Andy D knew the specific issue!

[mortal panther]

Was probably already in the process of printing them out on nice gloss paper to frame them.

[zealous hull]

Yeah, that's a big one. I was going to add it to my list if others hadn't already tried it. Thank you.

[manic basin]

Hehe, only because it was the title. Can't post AO links, though. So Robby grabbing the stills was a++

[eternal ravine]

But wait, he posted the Preview, whilst I was after the Reviews

[cerulean elk]

Fancy toilet paper

[manic basin]

06-08

[brisk drum]

They named dropped panzer dragoon saga by the Japanese name

[manic basin]

pg 24

[zinc dew]

The preview was the one that fooled me into thinking it was a good game

So now I carry the curse and spread it to others so I may be free

[manic basin]

Sorry, they attached backwards.

[eternal ravine]

Oh, getting closer
I meant the short grid format reviews from the staff (mostly Halverson)

[brisk drum]

To be fair the mags did a great job of hyping the rpg starved Nintendo nerds

[surreal summit]

Don't know if this is allowed? If someone wants to try and continue with the same settings.

[cerulean elk]

Saves are fine

Just the games themselves aren’t ok. Or bios stuff

[zinc dew]

I was so desperate to play Zelda that any game that anyone vaguely hinted at being Zelda-like I gobbled up

[cerulean elk]

Right @zinc dew ?

[zinc dew]

Yeah saves are fine, good catch

[brisk edge]

I had fun playing it as a kid, but I had never really played any RPGs prior. I remember it took me a really long time to get very far, but I'd often play it with my older cousin and we slowly made our way through the game. It was super exciting when we finally beat it. The game might be pretty mediocre, but it gave me some good memories

[zealous hull]

If I promise not to type it in chat, can I get removed from the Brian64 blocklist?
I just want to feel important.

[manic basin]

@eternal ravine

[eternal ravine]

They should have just left the JP name
It sounds more legit and less gubbamint issued
Eltale Monsters

[zinc dew]

I don’t have that control lol

[eternal ravine]

@manic basin
You are a LEGEND

[manic basin]

Support Archive dot org! They rule!

[zealous hull]

It's enough to know you would, Robby.

[zinc dew]

I’ve asked to unblock it actually

joke has run it’s course

[zealous hull]

I agree, tbh

[zinc dew]

Now we must meme Bug! into being forbidden

[zealous hull]

I think people will spam it once it's lifted, but I can't imagine it won't fizzle out quickly.

[zealous hull]

🤯 what did you just say?! 🤯

[brisk edge]

Bug continues to not work right? Truly the most intensive Saturn game

[eternal ravine]

I was just remembering Gamefan's drug-fueled hyperbole

[zinc dew]

I think part of the amusement is just how absolutely detailed Kitrinx went with blocking any permutation of Quest 64, like seriously good job lol

[zinc dew]

I am pretty sure it was that freaking review that sold me on the game

So I rented it and was very sad

[zinc dew]

Oh nice job, stellar game

[zealous hull]

It's people like her that inspire me to continue to improve my regex.

[manic basin]

You can boot it with a huge caveat.... you have to reset and retry over and over and over again. Something with the timing, but I've gotten into game a few times. To me, the actual game is getting it to launch past the FMV.

[cerulean elk]

Someone got a nice cash handshake

[orchid nimbus]

my network is 1Gig - saving sometimes takes longer but well worth the annoyance of syncing accross MiSTers

[manic basin]

It HAD to be the drought of RPGs...it had to be like getting a Burger King cheeseburger when you're Robert Downy Jr. and the only thing you've had to eat for months was cocaine and stripper glitter. I can't fathom any other reason for 80+....60+ sure. It's not THAT bad, but....

[zealous hull]

I have but a single MiSTer, but for the sake of testing I'm keeping the network saves active until I feel the need for it has run its course.

[cerulean elk]

I’ve been living on that diet for years and my power grows daily

[manic basin]

Sho nuff!

[eternal ravine]

@manic basin
I'm not kidding about the drug use - It probably looked really colorful on weed and acid and The Mullet cooked up various reviews using all his personas

[orchid nimbus]

you must be new 😄

hey @wraith estuary stop torturing those toys and kid synths 😄

[wraith estuary]

I've had a story about Bug! and how it relates to Nintendo since 8/29, but it's a wall of text and I didn't want to get banned for posting it.

[zinc dew]

lol

[eternal ravine]

Behold, midwife of Brian 64

[manic basin]

Impressive

[zinc dew]

Oh yeah, thanks for posting that review. I remember reading it as a kid.

[eternal ravine]

Another legendary GF review was related to super move shadows in SF Alpha

[manic basin]

First try. But I guarantee I won't be able to reproduce it for 30 more tries after this. But...if you're persistent.... it IS possible. But it should really be in the OTHER channel.... we're crossing streams. (The trick, for me, is hitting start right after the second spin of the newspaper starts. It might be placebo, honestly....but I'm playing Bug!, so who are you to argue Mr. no Bug!s?)

[cerulean elk]

Hey look a good game! Not Brian

[eternal ravine]

So much TUDE

One more of Halverson

[mortal panther]

Like a hat? 😉

[manic basin]

What's that sucking feeling on the back of my neck?

[mortal panther]

"It's your hat"
"Oh, good."

[wraith estuary]

That story arc about the hat made me laugh more than anything else

[mortal panther]

The more I heard references from this show being passed around on this channel, I decided to finally start watching it.
Damn, this shit's hilarious.

The Baron flying around from his own projectile vomit after eating pizza with garlic in it. 🤣

I was laughing until I was almost crying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47zpGcp2nA

[cerulean elk]

Let us not forget Robby is Guillermo

[cold pollen]

Wasn't that Doug Jones

[mortal panther]

Guillermo is awesome.

He puts up with so much shit... just like Robby!

[cold pollen]

Is the new season done yet I've been waiting to binge

[cold pollen]

Admins promised to make Robby a vampire

[mortal panther]

I think season 5 just wrapped in August, which is why I started watching it.

[cold pollen]

Yeah it was Doug Jones

[cerulean elk]

Yep

[cold pollen]

Sweet!

[orchid nimbus]

...... what

[cold pollen]

I know

[mortal panther]

How long have you been a mod here, Robby? 10 years now? 😉

[cold pollen]

Feels like 20

[weary beacon]

Is this some kind of Lost Boys club?

[cold pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-squad-sucide-will-smith-gif-22583748

[rancid talon]

This is more a question of curiosity since the pif file can be downloaded easily, but did Nintendo ever use that file for any of their emulated N64 releases? I'm guessing not since it seems most emulators don't need the file but it was an interesting thought.

[orchid nimbus]

@rancid talon why is this important?

[zinc dew]

probably just a curiosity thing

[orchid nimbus]

well the PIF is 1984bytes big

it does a few things

[rancid talon]

It was out of curiosity.

[orchid nimbus]

loads the 1st mb from the cart

and then 'boots' this

after this it's all the cart

it's like the starter engine

[wraith estuary]

I've never seen it required in any n64 emulator ever. makes the FPGA core seem more authentic because it requires it.

[zealous hull]

To be fair to you, your first sentence literally said "question of curiosity".

[rancid talon]

Thank you for the responses, I appreciate it.

[orchid nimbus]

I'm an a-hole with knowledge I guess 😄

@rancid talon https://n64brew.dev/wiki/PIF-NUS#:~:text=start executing IPL1.-,Controller and EEPROM communication,PIF%2C using the Joybus protocol.

[zealous hull]

I believe earlier Everdrive revisions had a lot of issues around CIC chips due to the PIF file.

[orchid nimbus]

here is the complete overview on what it does

[wraith estuary]

speaking of small file sizes, is there any demoscene discussion on this server? amazing what some people can do with 256 bytes... love that stuff

[zealous hull]

Do you have any examples? 🙂

[weary beacon]

My father taught me. One thing in liife. It's better to be a smart ass. Than a dumb ass.

[orchid nimbus]

then why is the world populated by the latter then?

[weary beacon]

There must always be an alpha

[zealous hull]

Presumably he isn't everybody's father.

[orchid nimbus]

god judges

jesus saves

I am sarcastic

the holy trinity

[wraith estuary]

some popular ones. keep in mind ---only 256 bytes!!!---
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWblpsLZ-O8&pp=ygUNMjU2IGJ5dGUgZGVtbw%3D%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imquk_3oFf4&pp=ygUNMjU2IGJ5dGUgZGVtbw%3D%3D
(trying to get back on topic) there's some n64 demoscene stuff too, but I'm not as familiar

[zealous hull]

This is really cool! I found a new thing to mindlessly dive into this weekend.

[wraith estuary]

https://www.pouet.net/
very inspiring stuff

[manic basin]

I love that the GIF of it is 8x its size.

[orchid nimbus]

@wraith estuary https://github.com/DerekTurtleRoe/N64-PD-ROMS

[zealous hull]

I remember this repo. In the early days I would just load up random roms to see what the core supported. How far we've come in such a short time.

[wraith estuary]

very cool. I'll check these out

[orchid nimbus]

you can download them all in 1 go

[wraith estuary]

N64 Demoscene adjacent - pushing the n64 to its limits. I ran this on the MiSTer last week and it worked (!) except for the sound. haven't tried since. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plh9OGel-lM&pp=ygUQbjY0IG1lZ2F0ZXh0dXJlcw%3D%3D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sf036fO-ZUk&pp=ygUQbjY0IG1lZ2F0ZXh0dXJlcw%3D%3D

[mortal panther]

I hate not remembering that I've already downloaded something.
"Oh right, I meant to grab those earlier. Thanks for the link!"
downloads repository
N64-PD-ROMs-master(1).zip
"Well shit..."
Cancel

I don't think there is sound in that.

[manic basin]

James Lambert is a mad genius. Portal is AMAZING.

[orchid nimbus]

yeah the gamecube graphics demo works on the core too

we already tested it

[wraith estuary]

glad we have our priorities straight 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

the power of having a testing community and enthusiasts

I mean FPGAZumSpass releases a core and 2 hours later he has all the results

[wise hemlock]

You helped too Vamps

[mortal panther]

"These two games should work now."
"Actually, 12."

[wise hemlock]

and you kindly gave me an awesome MSX vhd

[mortal panther]

He what?!

[wise hemlock]

Yeah I know

[gray surge]

I have the bios file zip file. Which of the 3 files inside is the one I rename to boot.rom?

[zealous hull]

Please check the pins.

[wise hemlock]

USA

and rename PAL to boot1.rom

[zealous hull]

And please verify the checksum.

[wise hemlock]

place both

[gray surge]

I must not have the right one.

[wise hemlock]

That software has been great for hashes checks

[zealous hull]

Hey great! It's pretty handy. 🙂

[wise hemlock]

Update All has the N64 now run script

Bios

[mortal panther]

#1096015979055697940 message

Just follow those instructions.

[drowsy lantern]

Is it expected that games carry the Controller Pak data from the previous game you played? 🤔

[wise hemlock]

Blast Corps is working?

[arctic fractal]

WHAT !!!!

[wise hemlock]

I love that game

[drowsy lantern]

Only the Controller Pak menu

The game itself crashes

[arctic fractal]

damn you...

[languid dune]

You need to format the controller pak before moving to a new game. That, or reboot the core before selecting selecting a new game.

Once a game has its "own" controller pak, it'll stay that way.

[zealous hull]

Wouldn't that format the pak for the current game? I would think you would need to format once you get to the new game.

[languid dune]

It doesn't I did a lot of testing with it last night, since I wasn't 100% sure how it worked either.

[zealous hull]

Cool. I didn't know that. I tend to reboot between each game.

[languid dune]

It's in the OSD system settings menu.

[wise hemlock]

It used page memory, a weird format

[drowsy lantern]

I get that but I thought loading a new game that didn’t previously have a Controller Pak would initialize a new empty one, not carry the data from the previous game you played. Caught me off guard. 😅

[languid dune]

Yeah, it just doesn't work that way with this core. At least at the moment anyway.

[arctic fractal]

I want to play Blast Corps 😦

[wise hemlock]

I have original japanese N64 modded

but FPGA is the most excited I have been since I got my MiSTer

[fair stump]

Reboot the core then select a new game or do the format pak before switching to a new game? That feels very unintuitive

[zealous hull]

Eh, it's a work in progress.

[fair stump]

I'm just used to the ps1 core style I guess

Pretty much all handled automatically for you

[zealous hull]

Fair, though N64 does handle saves differently. My thinking is: once something is setup, it's done forever.

[gray surge]

Okay. I at least got it to start loading now. Granted Super Mario 64 shows the title where he says “it’s a me Mario”, and then it crashes on a screen with some pixelated rainbow. Is there something else I need?

[zealous hull]

I would really suggest again that you check the pins.

There is a FAQ that you will want to read that explains everything.

Including the patch to get you into the game.

[gray surge]

Sorry. I wasn’t sure how to check the pins.

[zealous hull]

Ah, no problem at all.

[gray surge]

I have all the dumb lol.

[zealous hull]

If you can't find it, I can just link you the site directly. It's the little--er--pin at the top. Not sure the mobile layout.

https://vampier.net/N64

[gray surge]

So I just scroll all the way to the top?

[zealous hull]

No, it's in the UI itself.

[wise hemlock]

It is still in early access on STEAM but if you love BLAST CORPS have you seen Instruments of Destruction, it is actually by some of the original devs

[zealous hull]

@gray surge

The little pin by the bell.

Please let me know if you have any more questions!

[weary perch]

Shuishang Motuo (iQue) is the same thing as Wave Race 64 Shindou, which currently doesn't boot. Been playing the unQue hacked version which patches out the iQue stuff for retail N64 stuff, and it works great on the core. In case anyone wants to try out rumble in Wave Race 🙂

best rumble implementation on the console, possibly

[wise hemlock]

I have the patched shindou with english translation

But it does not boot

[zealous hull]

...yet 😏

[wise hemlock]

Give Robert a day or so...

[weary perch]

hence my suggestion to try the iQue/unQue versions, which are the same thing (rumble + ghosts) and do boot

[zealous hull]

It's an incredible suggestion, yeah. I may give that a shot soon.

[weary perch]

just in Chinese 🙂

but i mean, it's wave race

not much story going on 😄

[wise hemlock]

Just menus

[gray surge]

Ah! I see the pin now that I'm on desktop. Thanks.

[wise hemlock]

as the Shindou was japanese only

and came out much later, like a re-release

[zealous hull]

Feel free to DM me if you need anything, though I'm probably going to bed soon. I'll get back to you once I see it.

[wise hemlock]

MARIO 64 also, not sure if there were anymore Shindou Editions made

[zealous hull]

I wonder what release will bring Yoshi's Story into playable status?

I think I've only ever beaten that game twice--always rented it.

And with the way the game is designed, multiple playthroughs will essentially be playing completely different games.

I'm excited to revisit it.

[weary perch]

it's been said again and again, but honestly... the progress on this core is mind-melting 😄

[zealous hull]

It's been crazy!

[weary perch]

it's gone from nothing to extremely enjoyably playable in a blink

[wise hemlock]

Yoshi is a gem, I never played that when I had my n64 as a kid

discovered in recent years

[zealous hull]

I remember renting it and taking my N64 to my grandparents when I was young and playing it in the living room on their TV.

They thought it was so strange.

And--yeah--it was.

[wise hemlock]

does anyone know a good sin and punishment english

I found the patch to be a mess

[zealous hull]

Hm. I wonder if it's the same as the translation from the testers archive

[wise hemlock]

I figured someone would have dumped the rom from the switch or wii

[zealous hull]

Ooh. Yeah, that's a good point.

[wise hemlock]

I have a bad dump of it and it was crashing on ED

But it was running great on the 17th core I tested

Japanese version that is

[zealous hull]

According to an old forum the ripped rom is untranslated.

[wise hemlock]

the rom hacking one is fan translation

[zealous hull]

No, I'm aware. I'm speaking to the Wii VC dump.

When you extract the ROM from the Wii WAD, it's untranslated.

Which is...strange. I almost don't believe it.

[wise hemlock]

archive shows an emulator friendly and normal rom

[zealous hull]

The only translation I can find is from 'Vanit Studios' on romhacking(dot)net.

[wise hemlock]

Only other game is TREASURE Bangai-O

Dreamcast version is far superior

but I would like that translated

Yeah Vanit is fan translation

It is decent, but I wonder where the official release rom is

[zealous hull]

By official, you mean Wii VC, etc?

[wise hemlock]

Yeah

[zealous hull]

Because--like I said--it looks like VC bundles the translation in with the emulation package itself. The raw ROM you extract from the WAD is just the Japanese release.

[wise hemlock]

yeah like auto patch on boot or something

[zealous hull]

Something like that. Doesn't seem like anything useful that can be dumped to work with OG hardware.

[wise hemlock]

Odd I have checked a few times i figured someone would have dumped it complete

It is a large rom also

so space may be an issue

[zealous hull]

I just don't think it's possible. It seems to be modifying the rom in such a way that isn't really conducive to dumping.

More comparable to an emulator plugin more so than a patch, from what I'm reading.

[wise hemlock]

Yeah the patch is not a simple ips for the fan game

It is nuts what you have to do to get it working

Gonna try that Vanit one as it says 1.1

mine is 1.0

Be interesting to see if it boots on MiSTer CORE

I have that N64 pad tester if anyone wants is homebrew so can share

one with the stick diagram

[fair stump]

Can anyone else confirm getting a "fault in thread 6" error when letting nfl quarterback club 98 go to the attract mode from the start screen?

[surreal summit]

@wise hemlock @zealous hull I think you guys are looking for "Sin and Punishment - Successor of the Earth (U) [!]", and yes it seems to work on the core.

[wise hemlock]

Is that translation

[brisk drum]

I love seeing that controller “pak found” message

[wise hemlock]

I got that one will try both, not sure of the roms origin though @surreal summit

The Vanit 1.1 is newer than my rom, and I know that to be the fan translation

[surreal summit]

Pretty sure it is the official release and English translation.

[wise hemlock]

I hope it is

[zealous hull]

Rad. Well there you go.

[wise hemlock]

mine is named as the one you posted

with exclamation

[zealous hull]

Thanks a ton, @surreal summit

[wise hemlock]

Thanks for that, maybe you can solve Bangai-O as well

Bakuretsu Muteki Bangai-O

english

[gray surge]

I think I’ll just be patient for a stable core. I feel bad asking questions :).

[random portal]

Excitebike 64 has been another elusive game on my N64 watchlist and now it works

[wise hemlock]

That worked for me on the 17th

But not before and Pixel Cherry Ninja was running that a week before

[random portal]

I'm coming from the 16th actually before the cpak update

probably because I haven't tested it since a previous update

[wise hemlock]

are you using the database text file

[random portal]

I need to make a list of N64 games Blockbuster had the empty box for but not a renting copy.

[random portal]

yeah

[wise hemlock]

that made a big difference for me in compat, been overwriting it each time

[random portal]

oh actually

I think I stopped using it because certain games didn't work

becuase they werent on the database

and I manually set the CIC

now they are so I enabled it again

[wise hemlock]

which CIC do you use

There are quite alot of them on N64

[zealous hull]

I'll DM you tomorrow and see if we can't get you setup at some point. 🙂

No need to feel bad for wanting to learn.

[gritty current]

Will the Nintendo Switch Online 7 day trial membership allow one to purchase a NSO N64 controller ?

[random portal]

Someone linked a page of the known CIC and which game, but for the games that I didn't have info on, I would switch between the common 1602, and then cycle through all of them until I loop back.

[random portal]

you need to have a membership to buy?

[gritty current]

yeah

[random portal]

I guess that's good because it kind of gatekeeps potential resellers

[gritty current]

I don't even have a switch so it feels wrong to sign up for NSO

[manic basin]

I also made a Windows tool (.net 6) that generates the line for you (and if you drag a directory onto it, it will output a txt file of all roms in the directory and subdirectories. Handles bigE, littleE, and byteswapped)

[gray surge]

You’re too kind. Thank you :).

[quasi storm]

Good god! The hell is wrong with you?!

[manic basin]

Like, I think the deku seeds just kicked in maaaaaaan....

[quasi storm]

Like, I actually physically recoiled at the sight of it.

[manic basin]

It's nightmare fuel.

I will personally try to use this in the future if I post anything wonky.

[quasi storm]

I was trying to find a gif of Jack black flinching at the sight of the tailored costumes in school of rock.

[manic basin]

Greate scene. Great film.

[surreal summit]

This rules BTW, thanks for the suggestion.

[sinful kayak]

Is it possible to modify it that it creates subfolders per game like so that for example F-Zero goes to Racing, Super Mario 64 to Adventure etc.

[manic basin]

I could, but it was designed (for me) to make quick diff changes to update the DB and merge for code checkins.

The core only reads from N64-database.txt, not individual folders. But it could be done, sure.

Mainly I've got that 'developer laziness' where I'll spend 2 days on code to save myself 15 minutes. :/

[lament escarp]

Thanks this is awsome! Maybe something for the faq @orchid nimbus ?

[manic basin]

We curate the db, I'm just sharing it as a courtesy. It's useful if you find yourself adding a lot of hacks/etc. But it's not intended for general consumption. Mostly folks should be using the GitHub DB text file as it's kept clean.

Vampier has a Python tool, I believe, as well.

But I made an IPS for Luigi's Taco Stand to remove the face draw call from SM64 (it was repeated for some reason more than once). And nobody on the planet is going to have that but me ....nor want it, it's not exactly high art. Hehe. But it made grabbing the info for it quick and easy, as an example.

[lament escarp]

It's just something nice to have, in case some new romhack or homebrew comes around that's not in the db.

[manic basin]

Yeah, I hope it helps people.

[uneven dagger]

While it's quiet... just wanted to say how wonderful this core is. It's fascinating to watch it come together, and inspiring to see the friendly community coalesce around it. I never had an N64, but I'm itchiing to play through all the games I just heard about. I keep trying to explain it to my wife. She doesn't really understand, but I think she appreciates my childlike enthusiasm (if not the fact that I'll drop everything I'm doing whenever "Robert has dropped another test build!" 😆)

[eternal ravine]

PSX and N64 cores have gotten serious attention and people test test test

[trim seal]

I remember reading that the controller test doesn't require the save state any more, but I'm having no luck there.

[random portal]

That is OP! I appreciate the tool :D

[manic basin]

I have no idea how to get to the benchmark without the save state, hehehe.

I can get to the monitor pages, but not anything else. So I keep the save state around.

[quick arch]

You have this one
https://github.com/wermipls/mimi

[trim seal]

Well I do NOW. Thanks 🙂

[quick arch]

MisterAddons talks about it yesterday

[manic basin]

ooooooh!

[trim seal]

That one seems to crash on menu if you have RumblePak turned on.

Nope, keeps crashing

If I'm fast I can start testing but it still crashes within a few seconds wherever I'm up to.

[quick arch]

confirmed it crashes sorry

[trim seal]

Oh well. I'm no worse off than I was 5 minutes ago. 🙂

[lament escarp]

Try https://github.com/Ryzee119/n64_controller_test

You can also test vibration with this

[trim seal]

Cool cool, let's see.

That one works.

[surreal summit]

Look, I'm not saying N64 is objectively the best 5th generation console, but where alse can you play as an adorable defenseless pumpkin? Just a worthless squash. An absolutely 🐶 💩 gourd.

[trim seal]

So I'm seeing 100 or so in all corners on the NSO controller, with the latest unstable zimage. Should it be scaled down or have I missed something?

[lament escarp]

Try #1096015979055697940 message

The zimage converts the nso pad to full range, to make it useable in all cores, the main clamps all controllers down to n64 range in the n64 core

(I'm an idiot so this could be very wrong, my n64 8bitdo pad gets clamped down to 85, which is perfect)

[safe robin]

In Austria we eat this shape and type of Sausage always peeled because the think ones come with a thick skin and then we eat it raw or we cut it through the long side, make small slices in it and then we fry it in the pan and eat it with mashed potatoes 😋 we call it Auxburger mit Kartoffelpüree or as slang just Angespuckte 😄

[lament escarp]

Pls don't post sausage pics here, else I'll have to grab some Weißwurst with süßem Senf and Brezeln on my way home. 😄

[remote hatch]

haven't had breakfast yet ....

now I have to 😛

[sly wasp]

love your ethics for staying open source. DM'd with preorder request.

[hot spoke]

Has anyone experienced intermittent functionality with a stock rumble pack testing via the menu core? I've done the battery bypass on two rumble packs and they do both work, but sometimes when you plug them in they activate and other times they don't. Batteries are not in either controller. A 3rd party rumble pack I have works fine every single time.

[rose crypt]

oh no just got a freeze in Diddy kong racing

on the third boss intro cutscene

[bright crest]

I've just started playing with the N64 core. I started with the Portal port (which works) but Mario64 doesn't. As a further test I tried Banjo & Kazooie which works. I've seen screen shots of Mario64 but this is all I get regardless which version or which settings I use (just ran both update_all and update_N64). Any ideas?

[safe robin]

the mario 64 rom needs a patch

see pins

[bright crest]

That would explain it 🙂

[safe robin]

the face of mario at the beginning crashes the game still because its a complex part that is not implemented yet

[bright crest]

So long as it's not just me 🙂

[safe robin]

but for me personally the game crashes still very very often.

[remote hatch]

yes it's a face blocker, it's just ugly

[safe robin]

it seems to be some bug that robert did not find yet and its not easy to find bugs that appear so random

[bright crest]

It's fine. My curiosity has been fully satisfied. Thank you 🙂

[remote hatch]

There is one patch where the game works very well, but I'm waiting for that to be fixed 🙂

[storm vessel]

(This is still a confusing part for me but) is the current N64 WIP core available for the “stable MiSTer” builds? (Hope it got it right.)
Like you can just drop in the core and go now?

[safe robin]

its not stable yet, so update_all does not fetch it automatically, but you can add a line to your downloader.ini so you can get the beta core with update_all. i think you still have to manually add the bios pifs though

but once its set up it can automatic update it

[storm vessel]

Or like the Saturn core, is there an N64-only-updater?

[safe robin]

https://vampier.net/N64/
See the part: Updater implementation of the N64 core

[bright crest]

Tried the patch and just get a black screen but still no worries. As I said, it's not just me so I'm happy to let it go. It's still work in process after all 😄

[daring meteor]

Yes

[little socket]

Give me a heads up and I'll down three beers. Should be enough to then understand that gibberish tongue

[daring meteor]

Stable Mister got updated in 15 of sept

So if you have that you are good to go

[storm vessel]

Thanks everyone 😄

[spark granite]

unless you want the NSO N64 controller to work with proper ranges

also need the unstable zImage_dtb

unless something has changed?

[sly wasp]

pinned messages (pin icon at top of discord) and https://vampier.net/N64/ should be useful

[zenith orchid]

I guess saving now makes a lot more games completable, in theory

[quasi storm]

It really is wonderful! If you're familiar with the N64 emulation scene, you may know how stagnant Emulation became, practically at a standstill for at least a decade. At this time, some games still didn't work, and most of the ones that did still had some major graphical glitches. Games were PLAYABLE, sure, but they always felt... off. Until very recently, that is.

ENTER MiSTerFPGA and Robert Peip.

His core has achieved in (Checks vampier's timeline...) what... a month or two tops, what emulation only hoped for from the mid 90s to 2010-ish. It really is special.

Not to mention... N64 on MiSTer just FEELS right. Something traditional emulation could never nail.

[oblique remnant]

So which N64 games still dont work properly with software emulation then?

[little moon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/n64/comments/10mekts/why_is_n64_emulation_still_such_a_mess_even_in/

[quasi storm]

That's the thing. N64 Emulation saw a resurgence after 2010, and now things are pretty great, all things considered. I was mostly focused on the comparative turn around. I'm a little out of touch, so I couldn't say where the software scene is anymore.

[timid torrent]

this core has reminded me how unfair games were in the n64 era (looking at you, snowboard kids 2)

who needs chatgpt when you have AI players like that...

[dusky moth]

hey, is it me or throwing the banana forward or launching a green shell in the reverse direction don't work in mario kart64?

[weary palm]

1080 Snowboarding has such a banger of a soundtrack https://youtu.be/zYmHCXQGyKk

[native mesa]

Same with extreme G

[foggy stirrup]

Robotron 64. Best game best soundtrack. Just saying

No love here

[quasi storm]

One of my favorite pastimes is to go to YouTube videos with those N64 soundtracks, the good ones, and comment " The N64 does not have a sound chip, I repeat... the N64 does NOT have a sound chip."

Usually gets a laugh, cause it's true😆

[daring meteor]

The N64 has a soundchip tho

Its called the RCP

[quasi storm]

In my opinion, if you want a showcase of the ol 64 firing on all cylinders, look no further than Rock Solid in Conker's BFD

[weary palm]

Probably just you?

[quasi storm]

https://youtu.be/vVPHmok3hxA?si=dllsFIG4xnYrTb_g

Truly an audio visual marvel!

[quasi storm]

It didn't have one like every other system had one. The CPU performed most of the audio duties, along with RSP? Someone please fact check me.

[vagrant ivy]

You dont have up/down mapped on the controller. You can see this in the input tester core

[daring meteor]

The RCP includes the RSP haha

[bitter fjord]

By the way, I kinda wonder how the Everdrive with UltraCIC seems to always guess what CIC to emulate/implement regardless of the rom

even romhacks don't have CIC errors on it

@wanton sun any idea if it's possible to implement the dual analog stick support that's provided by usb64 in the core? That would be pretty neat for FPS

https://github.com/Ryzee119/usb64

[compact depot]

Wondering what’s that dual analog thing about? 🤔

[compact skiff]

Maybe it assigns the left stick to p1 and right stick to p2

[compact depot]

Gotcha!

[native mesa]

We've dug into it: firstly it uses a 'UltraCIC' chip which is open source which seems to account for most CIC by putting the pif into some test mode. Then for edge cases it seems to patch ROMs on the fly.

Speaking from a lamen

[bitter fjord]

that's what it does

[quasi storm]

And the RDP, right? They were part of the coprocessor?

[compact depot]

N64 core seems pretty complete? What else is missing besides RDP?

[native mesa]

TLB

[quasi storm]

I'm just saying it doesn't have audio in the traditional sense

[daring meteor]

Yes

[silent marten]

VI stuff and TLB and crash fixes

[quasi storm]

Anti aliasing, mip mapping, TLB

[compact depot]

Oh right the TLB. Is RDP in already?

[native mesa]

Rdp is incomplete

[quasi storm]

Dither, and de dither (Huh?... 😆)

RGB color sorting, I believe?

[native mesa]

Checkerboard and Vaseline A

Vaseline B remains to be seen if it will be added

[quasi storm]

I think I managed to add that with some interpolation filters.

[native mesa]

Sounds right. I think that's all it is on real hardware

[quasi storm]

Half of it was probably just a CRT doing its thing...

[native mesa]

My understanding is vertical lines are doubled from 320 to 640 and then an average is taken between the lines

It's why hardware mods can 'deblur' since the original image is still there every other pixel

[quasi storm]

Is that a part of VI?

[native mesa]

I don't think so as Robert wasn't very familiar with it

I think it's part of the analog circuit in hardware

[quasi storm]

I recently read some documentation on the N64, and I remember nothing from it lol

[native mesa]

If it's omitted it wouldn't be terrible

But you'll never get a 1:1 with original hardware without it

[quasi storm]

Having the option would be nice though

[native mesa]

"The blur is not just anti-aliasing. It’s a horizontal 50% blur. The N64 outputs a 640 pixel wide image, even if the backbuffer is 320 pixels wide, and it doubles the backbuffer’s width to fill the line. The appearance is an “off by half pixel” blur done horizontally. Correcting it produces a sharp 320px wide image. The scene’s rendering and use of AA shouldn’t affect it.

Because the blur is exactly 50% “between pixels”, that means every other column is a 100% intact part of the original 320px image. So, if we simply drop the blurred columns (odd columns) and re-use the good columns (even columns) we have a restored 320 pixel image. Naturally there is zero lag in this technique."

[quasi storm]

That's cool!

[native mesa]

My N64 is modded to remove it

They made some questionable choices back then but I guess it was bleeding edge graphics stuff. Maybe it was to make the boxy models look more 'organic' before skinning and to cover up the low res textures in most cases

[little socket]

But if aa those edges don't bleed

[cold pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[marble cargo]

It was definitely to disguise how low the texture resolution was. You can even see it in a lot of cases when you remove that bilinear filtering on the core and just see absolutely massive pixels coat everything. Looks really ugly in a lot of cases.

[quasi storm]

No one knew what the heck they were doing, and if they tell you that they did, they are lying.

It was like 3D wild West...

I'm reminded of rare developers stories of how they did MoCap in GoldenEye. All those falling animations look so good because some poor guy in a rinky-dink MoCap setup (called flock of seagulls) was getting punched in the chest while blindfolded...

[zinc dew]

I’m getting my Saffun controller today

[lament escarp]

Pls post pics and share your opinion when you got it.

[lament escarp]

That sounds like normal work environment to me.

[quasi storm]

Saffun? What's that? A "Saturn" with a mouth full of peanut butter?

[fair stump]

Got mine yesterday and I like it 👍

[quasi storm]

Okay, new controller alert. Gotta check it out.

[fair stump]

Tip from chat yesterday, make sure it's set to the two light mode to get rumble

[quasi storm]

Yeah, no kidding. Like vampier's FAQ said, I'll paraphrase,

"The controller's instructions were written by morons."

-Vampier

[bronze tree]

This is already implemented in the VI of Robert's software emulator that will be used as a reference for the VI in the core. It's done by bilinear interpolation and also works vertically (fixing artifacts with some PAL games)

[mortal panther]

Oh, you don't have to worry about Robby not sharing his opinion. 😉

[odd vector]

Vaseline Update inc

[cerulean elk]

lol

how bout tomorrow...can I have a break? haha

[odd vector]

https://tenor.com/view/bhibatsam-acharya-no-no-ram-charan-neelambari-gif-25332825

[cerulean elk]

I have nothing planned for 4. I want to keep it that way and target tomorrow lol

[odd vector]

You are outputting an insane amount of videos lately. 😄

[cerulean elk]

just a couple

lolol

[odd vector]

Cannot tell if you like the progress on N64 😉

[cerulean elk]

N64? never even heard of it

[odd vector]

yeah me neither

[cerulean elk]

either way I will have a N64 video tomorrow. Just on what topic is the question

[native mesa]

Well good so will output be 640x240?

[bronze tree]

yes

[weary palm]

or 640x288?

[daring meteor]

rip vi sync hacks

[bronze tree]

what do they do?

[daring meteor]

Make the core work on analog video

When we will have 640x240 output I guess they'll get changed haha

[quasi storm]

It's neat how textures rely on all the N64s nuances to look correct.

[cerulean elk]

purpose built to work within the feature set / limitations of the hardware

[native mesa]

At that point output should be what hardware outputs so I assume no hacks necesarry

[daring meteor]

Technically he may choose to go for a weird mid-way synchronius VI for a bit

I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up happening

[quasi storm]

Case in point, some staircases in Ocarina of time.

[cerulean elk]

that wall texture though

[zinc dew]

I think the left is better

The guy is further down the stairs so it must be running faster

prove me wrong

[zealous hull]

It took me longer to find the difference than I'm proud to admit.

But once I did see it, I can't unsee it.

[quasi storm]

Sanity check: What do you see?

[cerulean elk]

looks like you trotting into the channel to be overly nice

[sonic temple]

is there a core setup tutorial here ?

[zealous hull]

Yep! In the pins.

[zinc dew]

HALLO GUYS, LOVE EACH OTHER, LOVE N64, BYE BYE

[quasi storm]

https://vampier.net/N64

[zealous hull]

If you're being serious, the top level of the stair cases: left unblurred, right blurred.

[quasi storm]

You new 'round here? Welcome to the N64 scene, man!

[cerulean elk]

lol not everyone know its in pins

[quasi storm]

Absolutely! The three point filter makes the texture form a straight line. Was just making sure 😆

[mortal panther]

That's why I posted that, so people will know what to click when we say "Check the pins!" 😉

Not everyone knows what that means.

[native mesa]

Why are certain vertical lines doubled in the first image? Seems like something else is going in there

[bronze tree]

because otherwise it looks bad in the emulator 🙂

[quasi storm]

"Check the pins" could have wildly different meanings depending on context...

[bronze tree]

both sides have line doubling

@native mesa

[native mesa]

Oh I guess the lines I'm referring to are double doubled

[topaz otter]

I would but i got a face made for radio

[native mesa]

Looks more like a vertical shimmer

[zenith orchid]

Huh, I remember seeing that before texture filtering was added, in the paint particularly in the first track of MK64

I thought it was an upscaling thing

[native mesa]

I think Robert did say everything gets crammed into the 320x240 image

[zenith orchid]

Yea this might have to do with the inaccurate video output

it'll probably be fixed when we get AA and dither/dedither

[native mesa]

I think someone has another build out there with more accurate output

[daring meteor]

I don't think Mike's build changes that
You sure this isn't real behevior?

[native mesa]

It could be

but it does appear to be shimmer due to scaling.

It's a consistent pattern

[zenith orchid]

Yeah, and then it goes through the line doubler

[bronze tree]

yes, that is because it's a non-integer scaling from the internal resolution on some PAL games, that is exactly the artifact that the bilinear interpolation takes care of.

without it we do nearest neighbor

[native mesa]

Makes sense. Poor PAL always getting the shaft

[bronze tree]

well, I noticed that the Zelda PAL games also run fine when you change them to NTSC 🙂

[zenith orchid]

That's explains why this seemed unfamiliar to me

[bronze tree]

so you can have German + 60Hz and no weird scaling

[orchid nimbus]

nope 🙂 I don't have a python tool - that's @bronze tree 😄

[zealous hull]

I was in the Paper Mario modding discord and forgot which server I was in and freaked the hell out when I saw people posting Paper Mario footage.

[orchid nimbus]

stop freaking out!

[zealous hull]

I'm still freaking out!!!!

[zinc dew]

How come?

[zealous hull]

I thought people were playing Paper Mario fully on the core. 😅

Like, Robert just dropped a TLB update overnight for no reason.

But of course he didn't. I'm just dumb. 🙃

[cerulean elk]

😂

[zealous hull]

It's my second favorite game ever, you all. I love it.

[storm vessel]

I second this. Why the freaking out?

[zealous hull]

See my response below his. 😛

Anyway. I'm cool. I'm cool.

My standup is about to wrap up. Gotta get to work! Have a nice day/night everyone.

[verbal cedar]

It’s an established rule of the server that they need to @ me when paper Mario is playable else everyone gets banned and fined $1000

[zealous hull]

I'm testing it as soon (if ever) TLB gets implemented.

[verbal cedar]

Godspeed comrade

[weary palm]

MiSTer main unstable with the two pending pull requests applied.
https://github.com/MiSTer-unstable-nightlies/Main_MiSTer/pulls

[cerulean elk]

Nice additions

[weary palm]

My latest pull request does exactly this; using the first 4096 bytes of the ROM to try to determine CIC type. Save type will be left blank if missing from the database, though.

[nimble needle]

Shades of LTJ Bukem off of that. Love some chilled DnB/Jungle. Pure nostalgia

[nimble needle]

That’s class in fairness. Badly needed

[bitter fjord]

isn't it what it's already doing? (using the database that uses the first 0x1000 of the rom)

how would that work for rom hacks? Assuming the bytes aren't untouched

Everdrive seems to somehow guess the save type too

[mortal panther]

"It's my second favorite game ever, you all."

That means "y'all", Robby. 😉

[native mesa]

I'm still bitter it wasn't a SMRPG sequel

WHY CANT YOU JUST GET ALONG NINTENDO AND SQUARE

[orchid nimbus]

it will - calm our yeties

[weary palm]

the first 0x1000 bytes are used to generate a checksum to look up in the database. My code checksums 0x40-0x1000 (boot code) to determine what cic to use.

[zealous hull]

If anybody can do it, it's Robert. 🙂 But I'm not going to assume it's going to happen until I see it for myself.

[final knoll]

Hey all.. I just got the n64 mod kit from 8bit and i hooked it up to windows in direct input mode and all buttons are functioning.

When I hook up to mister i notice some of the yellow C buttons don't work.. (there not mappable in the controller config) any ideas please 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

I thought the same about the PSX core

[cerulean elk]

Had a comment on YT; someone using N64 NSO controller is seeing disconnects every time the rumble motor engages. They think it’s the stock PSU losing power. I haven’t heard this but anyone else encounter it?

[nimble needle]

NOt here. Did they mention which game?

[zealous hull]

I believe in Robert, I just don't want to saddle him with unrealistic expectations.

[cerulean elk]

Comment in full

[orchid nimbus]

I use a Triad AC power supply

https://misteraddons.com/blogs/news/i-ve-got-the-power

but it seems that MiSTer add ons might sell better ones?

@graceful radish ^ ?

[zinc dew]

Sounds unrelated to the controller.

[orchid nimbus]

https://misteraddons.com/products/5v-5a-dc-power-supply

[cerulean elk]

It was the “rumble triggers it” that piqued my interest

[carmine kettle]

#1096015979055697940 message

[ripe sentinel]

cause im simple man. is the included powersupply bad? i still use that one and it gets split into the two barrels with teh toggle thingy to turn on/off.. is the recoomendation to just swap to this misteraddons one?

[orchid nimbus]

@ripe sentinel do you hook up wired controllers that use rumble motors?

do you use external HDDs that are USB powered and not SSD?

[ripe sentinel]

no. just some basic usb controllers and occasionaly a wifi donggle for updates

[orchid nimbus]

do you use the USB ports to power a 5v night light?

and you don't have any issues?

if so - then you're fine 🙂

[carmine kettle]

i just to have hdd it was taking alot of juice switch to ssd and i dont have any more problems

[ripe sentinel]

😄 perfect. also ima need that link for a night light add-on?!!!

[orchid nimbus]

hence my edit of what I wrote 😄

[carmine kettle]

lol

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.amazon.com/Compact-Bedroom-Bathroom-Nursery-Atmosphere/dp/B09K7MQH4P/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=usb+night+light&qid=1695306214&sr=8-5

[mellow path]

Another benefit of ethernet-wired NAS

[orchid nimbus]

I bought this Triad - so my other MiSTer is now powered by 2 stock supplies

[mellow path]

I can attach so many night-lights to my MiSTer

[carmine kettle]

what kind of shenanigans is this lol

[orchid nimbus]

@mellow path 🙂

[mellow path]

nice

[orchid nimbus]

mounted on a dir so I can zip and unzip and do all the stuff I normally do

[cerulean elk]

9:25 am. No new core. I might just get to knock some videos off my actual to do list today 🤣 (I’m jinxing myself so we get a core update lol)

[orchid nimbus]

7:26am @cerulean elk is complaining about not being able to keep the lights on because he can't make a new video

@cerulean elk you better have the highest tier for FPGAZumSpass' patreon

[cerulean elk]

No I’m gonna finish the last two videos for the 2024 Wednesday retrospective. I’m up to August 2024 upload wise 🤣

[mild ether]

He is waiting for you to release a video to drop a new core.

[orchid nimbus]

he can make a video about me 😄

[cerulean elk]

I’ve gotta start the Tuesday series for 2024 and churn out more Friday stuff

[orchid nimbus]

the duality of a simple complex man

[cerulean elk]

I’m at the tree fiddy tier

[carmine kettle]

video drop

[orchid nimbus]

I watch them - but I stay away from the comments... the comments are like #help here 😄

[mild ether]

Do you get any copyright claims for the in game music?

[carmine kettle]

we need a break

and enjoy what we have right now

[orchid nimbus]

@cerulean elk's new video will be how to properly identify german sausages and how to prepare them while being scolded by a Dutchman

[cerulean elk]

Rarely

[orchid nimbus]

who now has pink eye for some reason

[cerulean elk]

DK rap flags, as does Buck Bumble theme. Anything Star Wars gaming is a mess. Also Midway / Mortal Kombat music is always iffy

[final knoll]

Thanks :).. but i dont get what this means.. 😦

[cerulean elk]

Otherwise it’s rare you see a flag for soundtrack music. Especially with gameplay SFX over it

[orchid nimbus]

daytooooooonaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[dusky moth]

well I can navigate various menus in various games, so I'd say up/down is mapped...

[mild ether]

Buck Bumble eh? 😄

[orchid nimbus]

huck fumble

[cerulean elk]

Yep. No Buck Bumble theme allowed

[mild ether]

Need to capitalize those claims with the obligatory "MY CHANNEL IS UNDER ATTACK!!" video.

[orchid nimbus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0DDY299Ly4

[cerulean elk]

I do love YT; hey you have 20 seconds of the Buck bumble soundtrack in your vid. Suddenly all revenue belongs to Buck Bumble Incorporated 🤣

It’s all a money making scheme with random companies buying up random stuff they flagging it so 100% of every ad view pays to them and they do nothing for that incoming $$

[orchid nimbus]

I uploaded an obama speech just to see what would happen - some rap group claimed it... it was less than 5 minutes old!

[mild ether]

It's only fair that some 90s game that hasn't been for sale in pert near 25 years gets that revenue.

[orchid nimbus]

the speech was

[cerulean elk]

Not surprised

[orchid nimbus]

yeah there is a lot of f-ery going on

[mild ether]

I am kinda surprised that they haven't found a way to copyright claim footage of gameplay.

[solemn kayak]

Nintendo enters the chat

[mild ether]

Very strange how they just decide that the audio is the off limits part.

[topaz otter]

Those rumble motors are 5v right, the motor with the weight on it?

[cerulean elk]

Shhh don’t give them any ideas

[topaz otter]

Theres a reason the n64 uses a battery powered rumble pack

[mild ether]

Collusion with big battery?

[zealous hull]

Are you using dinput or switch mode on the controller? I've had more luck with dinput, but rumble doesn't work.

[topaz otter]

Its a conspiracy

Is the NSO controller usb?

[final knoll]

im using dinput mode.. switch mode does not allow any maping.

[mild ether]

Says the N64 controller port has 3.3v

[orchid nimbus]

0.5 amps?

[topaz otter]

Makes sense, theres not enough voltage to power the motors in the rumble pack, its a 5v motor

[surreal summit]

Two AAA batteries is going to be 2.6-3.6v though.

...also people mod the rumble packs to work off that controller line.

[topaz otter]

There are third party rumble packs that pull their power without batteries

But they suck

[mild ether]

I mean they could easily bump that up to 5v but not sure what current the ports can provide.

[topaz otter]

Is the voltage for all the mister usb ports shared?

The nso controller probably just needs a resistor on the motor to slow it down

Problem solved

Like those rumble packs that had a high/low switch

[dense wagon]

was wondering on the off chance if someone here had got one, (i recall someone saying they had one on order) was the Saffun n64 wireless controller... any testing 😉 good, bad, meh

[surreal summit]

#1096015979055697940 message

[dense wagon]

oooh 🙂 nice thanks

oh yeah i should use the search feature- i forget that exists - thank you

I get my 128MB SDram today haha assuming some seller isn't being a dick

[solemn kayak]

wooo

Fire up that NEO-GEO boys

[dense wagon]

haha yeah i got by just fine with the 32... until now

n64... i should have guessed... witht he 64's and all 😉 lol it is just funny how the asset packing in that gamecube rom of OOT lets me actually play it for a bit

[zinc dew]

I’m charging it now but in terms of physical quality it’s pretty close to the NSO controller. I imagine they used the same exact molds and probably even manufacturer but modified the design. Buttons offer just a teeny bit more resistance and the analog stick isn’t like the original controller. It actually doesn’t push far enough to ride along the octagonal gates which may or may not be an issue.

[fair stump]

Yeah you don't get the octagonal click

[zinc dew]

I like the extra analog stick, original console adapter, and included 2.4ghz dongle.

Also they molded in a fake memory pak into the accessory adapter which is a nice touch.

[dense wagon]

@zinc dew yeah thats the thing i was wondering about, basically the travel on my crappy USB one is like, i get to the max on the ADC when at about 45degrees so my brain gets confused since there is another like 10 or 20 so degrees rotation on it

[zinc dew]

Yeah that doesn’t sound good

[dense wagon]

so fine control is hard. i guess this has the opposite where yeah full postion its just a bit less than the original controller?

[zinc dew]

Maybe not. I’ll need to run that controller test program

[dense wagon]

I was thinking of if i could do a resistor mod on the one i have, i mean, its a cheap thing, if i break it its not the worse thing in the world

[zealous hull]

Are you using bluetooth or USB? I'm afraid I only have experience with bluetooth myself.

[final knoll]

im using usb at the moment as i don't have a dongle that works..

I understand that i need to map the C buttons to the right analogue stick but when i do that I'm unable to map the plus pad when requested...

having a bit of a nightmare.. i

feeling like going and crying in the corner right now.

[zealous hull]

😅 Give me a sec. I'm going to try to find the updated drivers. Maybe that will help.

@final knoll #test-builds message

Replace your current zImage_dtb with this and try to use it in Switch mode.

If anybody has any better suggestions, please chime in. I'm just throwing out ideas.

[fair stump]

These were my results with the saffun

[bitter fjord]

yes, there is. The n64 can't deliver enough amps to drive 4 rumble paks + controllers at once. One or two is no issue though.

[zealous hull]

@final knoll I'm a little busy today, but feel free to DM me if you want help troubleshooting.

@gray surge I sent you a DM, we'll try to get you sorted today too

[final knoll]

@zealous hull

thank you.. i will write a message showing what im doing and what ive done 🙂

[zealous hull]

Oh, sorry. To be clear. I'll be the only one helping you troubleshoot. Just message me. Not him.

[final knoll]

tough day

[zinc dew]

Yeah same

[lament escarp]

Seems to me it could use some more range

[manic basin]

"We're gonna need a bigger byte!"

A byte plus a nibble gives you -2047 - 2047. I propose we call that a Bruce. Since he both bites and nibbles.

[mortal panther]

or could call it a Mogwai... just don't let it bite or nibble after midnight.

[zenith orchid]

I gotta say, Dr. Mario is a serious brain exercise game. Especially when you play at higher levels.

[knotty zealot]

qquueesstt 6644

[sly wasp]

from the mario kart 64 (for N64) Manual so probably just you. Note you might need to hold down the item button BEFORE pushing the stick forward/back.

[weary palm]

Everdrive comes with a "save_db.dat" which contains the save type for 153 games.

[silent marten]

hey Robert, anything on the testing menu today?

[weary palm]

Ackschully -2048..2047

[manic basin]

Yeah yeah, but you gotta normalize the range

Though for emulating mouse movement on a stick.....that's 3' long.....

Bruces for everyone.

[fair stump]

3'

[cerulean elk]

3 feet long? Someone’s been telling stories about me again haven’t they

[manic basin]

Like an ornithopter control stick. I'd try SM64 on that. With some foot pedals....

In a top hat with a copper gear brooch. I'd be fancy.

[manic basin]

The words of the prophet were written on the bathroom stall.

[cerulean elk]

For a good time call @brisk drum

[fair stump]

Proper pilot wings setup

[cerulean elk]

This is like my Halloween goal to go as Dudley Moore in Arthur

Except I’d just be drunk in a tuxedo

[brisk drum]

Hell naw!

[manic basin]

<that very specific laugh>

[remote hatch]

Wipeout 64 just crashed during explosion 😄

[manic basin]

So...technically it crashed twice?

</s>

[remote hatch]

haha yeah

[manic basin]

Which race? I'll give it a go and see if I can get a consistant kaboom

[remote hatch]

RSP Instruction not implemented

[manic basin]

Ah, ok, well that's easy enough then.

I always forget that exists because I leave it off for capture.

[remote hatch]

one rocket hit, explosion and crash 😉

[mortal panther]

Don't see too many people referencing that movie. Respect! 😄

[remote hatch]

second time I can't repeat it

[quaint pewter]

Derek & Clive warped my mind as a youngster. I didn't realise til later it was Dudley Moore and Peter Cook.

[languid dune]

Okay, what madness and mayhem did I miss over night?

[manic basin]

Shockingly little.

[languid dune]

Posts that you can hear.

[remote hatch]

@quasi storm did you finally manage to connect the Brawler64 NSO via bluetooth?

[devout leaf]

Reason manuals are so good. Saw a reddit post six years ago with 69k upvotes that was like "Did you know Down and B makes Tanooki Mario into a statue?!"

At that time my joints ached.

[elfin depot]

Second controller controls the Duck on Duckhunt (NES) .Always loved telling people that years later.

[elfin depot]

Go as he is in that scene.

[native mesa]

Yeah manuals are a big part of any game pre gen 6 I'd say

What's a good implementation to have them on Mister?

[devout leaf]

If anyone finds a need I have a cache of ~22GB of retro manuals.

If they could ever be implemented.

[cerulean elk]

Dudley Moore was GOAT

[hot spoke]

Are they available somewhere? archive.org for example

[vagrant ivy]

archive has many many game manuals

[devout leaf]

I'll look but I'm not sure. I grabbed them here and there and just compiled them.

[native mesa]

Put them on archive

I'd like it

Mister has a doc viewer

[safe robin]

New test build

[brisk drum]

I think that would violate copyright law

[worn delta]

Oh, and maybe Harvest Moon is fixed?!

[final knoll]

For reference setting up a N64 using the 8BITDO modkit in wired mode does not work.. you must use bluetooth dongle mode.. (i did this in DINPUT)

[brisk drum]

We would have to write our own manuals

[devout leaf]

I mean you'd supply your own manuals

[daring meteor]

New build lets go

[brisk drum]

No shit!

[fair stump]

I finally sit down to play something and then a new build drops 😆

[silent marten]

Scooby doo is fixed

[brisk drum]

Please someone test castlevania right away

[hasty kayak]

I will say it now

Ridge Racer 64 Graphics ARE FIXED!

[brisk drum]

That’s a good sign

[silent marten]

Spiderman is the same

[brisk drum]

I bet destruction derby is fixed as well

[remote hatch]

time to racceeeee 😄

[silent marten]

Still no text in Robotron

[brisk drum]

Are fixed*

Ahh man this is gonna be a great evening

[worn delta]

How is Harvest Moon looking?

[silent marten]

Wrestling games are still the same broken logos and missing text

[brisk drum]

That’s cool but it’s the slowdown fixed when 4 wrestlers are on screen ?

[hasty kayak]

Destruction Derby 64 looks good too. Car graphics are actually present!

[hasty kayak]

Errr geez thanks for the lesson

[brisk drum]

Called it

[brisk drum]

No problem homie

[fair stump]

We have Extreme G

[hasty kayak]

I ain't ya Homie

[brisk drum]

K dawg

[safe robin]

I played much extreme G back then 😎

[fair stump]

And XG-2!

Robert had nailed pretty much all my childhood games now

[daring meteor]

No change in Mario Kart

Custom Robo works now with bg

[hexed knot]

Harvest Moon lookin reaaaal good

[worn delta]

Nice!

[thin field]

Que hay de paper Mario?

[remote hatch]

great update , thanks @wanton sun !

[worn delta]

Looking forward to doing some farming! 🙂

[hasty kayak]

WWF No Mercy doesn't show its intro screen as per before.

[fair stump]

Sorry goemon fans, still nothing for your games

[hexed knot]

Still got a crash during the opening cutscene (HM64) unfortunately.

[odd vector]

Asking the same question as in every updated build: Does Goemon work?

[fair stump]

No

[worn delta]

Ah that's a shame about the HM crash

[languid dune]

Another build!? What the fudgesicle!?

[odd vector]

And Bomberman 64?

[daring meteor]

All the Broken NTSC games that aren't Wresling games, Jet Force Gemini, or OOT, are TLB games (to some extent)

[odd vector]

So Bomberman 64 and Goemon are TLB Games?

[quaint pewter]

Who is this (well I know it's not Robert)? https://twitter.com/noemi_abril/status/1704874248022429943

Noemí Abril (@noemi_abril)

#MiSTerFPGA #MiSTer Core for #DE1-SoC

https://t.co/fyorI2zbyV

Twitter · Sep 21, 2023, 3:04 PM

[daring meteor]

I think so, can recheck if to be sure

[manic basin]

Hot damn

[cerulean elk]

lolol will this madness NEVER end

[hexed knot]

Bombermans are still No Boots.

[manic basin]

Fuzz got it already. This is so much nicer. Despite the lockup. #1096015979055697940 message

[odd vector]

Thx for checking!

[fair stump]

@cerulean elk the extreme g games aren't invisible anymore if you need a good example for video

[zenith orchid]

Yoshi Story 😮