Nintendo 64

[inner garden]

there we go

[hearty oar]

it's crazy how well both this hack and the vanilla game work

if it's not perfect already it must be close

[compact lark]

I wonder how the core will look on composite once the VI filtering and AA has been implemented

[dusty tusk]

Didn't AA get in recently?

[inner garden]

I didn’t see it yet

texture filtering did

you can add a post process to do some blurring lol

[compact depot]

Vaseline works

[dense chasm]

Okay! I just hooked up the $30 SAFFUN controller, and it synced up no problem and works fine. Latency isnt atrocious, but I'm also not super sensitive to it.

[inner garden]

Dreamcast is the best n64 controller

I confirmed it

[wanton sun]

no idea if i did something wrong, but it doesn't work. i start as small link and even if i teleport to the tempel, the door is closed, maybe you can share the savegame instead?

[marble cargo]

Anti-aliasing was included. I think he meant the hardware based smoothing that gives Nintendo 64 games that muddy appearance?

[dense chasm]

The joystick is still too sensitive, so I gotta try that unstable mister file. Can you update the file while its running via wifi?

[vast delta]

Idk if it has been mentioned here, but Blast Corps is particularly sensitive to the reported Analog Stick values. I remember some weirdness happens when the value is greater than something around +/-90

[dense chasm]

Will that be adjustable in the core eventually, or is that a higher level problem?

[vast delta]

Iirc, the character stops moving

[orchid nimbus]

know issues 1 2 3 6 9 16 32767

😉

[inner garden]

there’s definitely no full screen anti aliasing but I saw some stuff on ground transitions in mario 64 that looked anti aliased

[vast delta]

So it only has these thresholds?

[mortal apex]

When I tried earlier it did the same thing, but it worked when I reloaded the rom with the first savefile already created.

[orchid nimbus]

no - but it feels like it for the sticks I use

[iron trail]

Here's a "legit" save as adult link, same thing happens with the redeads in the square

[teal oyster]

good evening

is there such a thing as an N64 controller test rom?

[dense chasm]

Hmm, just tried starfox, and it looks like the joystick isnt mapping correctly

Cant go up or down in the start menu, and the plane gets stuck at the top of the screen when i start moving

Right and left seems to work fine, bc i played a round of mario kart no problem

[iron trail]

yeah it's in the pins. Please remember to download and load the savestate as well #1096015979055697940 message

[teal oyster]

thanks sudo 👍

[dense chasm]

I guess i'll try out that test rom real quick!

should i try the NSO controller kernal update?

also, where does that go? it doesnt have a file extension

[orchid nimbus]

a wild @teal oyster appears

[wary stag]

Is the n64 core in the update.all?

[dense chasm]

Just checked the controller test rom, and up and down on the joystick do not work. Anyone run into this with the sofun controller?

[marble cargo]

Not yet. But there is an alternative script specifically for the Nintendo 64 stuff if you want to use that.

[wanton sun]

not sure what i'm supposed to do. i killed all of them twice and also let them attack me. works fine?

[dense chasm]

Oh! I switched to X-input, now it seems to work

[wary stag]

Cheers, hopefully it won’t be long I’ll wait till then

[dense chasm]

Controller test says all values are 125

[iron trail]

Others reported that sometimes it didn't happen, for me it happened on the second redead the very first time I tried. So though reproducible to an extent, I'm not sure it's consistent. I will say this is the only crash/hang I've seen in two playthroughs up to this point.

[uncut gyro]

Is Remix project pulling in (simplified) character models and audio samples from future SSB games?

[marble cargo]

The models are either custom made or from other games. For example Goemon and King Dedede are recycled, while Marina was custom made. Audio samples come from different sources.

[wanton sun]

4 rounds now without any crash. Well, might be more reproducible then the rest of the game, but i can get mario64 faster to crash in bob-omb, it's not a good situation i fear...

[dense chasm]

I think the issue may have been how i set up the sofun controller in the joystick setup. I didnt do the analog stick, now it seems to work

[left depot]

Maybe the core is working better with some types of RAM?

[native mesa]

Dont you just love to inconsitencies?

[ebon oyster]

Just received my Brawler NOS wireless controller. No time to try it out tonight though... will have to wait until tomorrow night.

(Why, what are we doing tomorrow night, Brain? NARF!)

[quaint rune]

Vanilla smash works ?

[hearty oar]

it does, I think it was SRAM getting implemented (or at least stubbed in at first) that let it

[iron trail]

Yeah I just tried 30x and only got it to lock up 4x. It's not consistently reproducible. I'm sorry if we sent you on a wild goose chase. Thank you for looking, and for everything you do for the community ❤️

[manic basin]

I think so Brain, but where are we going to find a duck and lederhosen at this hour?

[ebon oyster]

From the looks of the latest conversation therein, possibly over in #general-banter

[rose elbow]

https://youtu.be/z5gngon-wRw

very tempted to do DKR now knowing it's apparently beatable! i haven't touched this game in so long :-)

[wanton sun]

no worries, it's always a good idea to share such knowledge 🙂

[manic basin]

Dooooeeeeet!

[rose elbow]

this WIP core really drilling home how bad emulation was all over again :D

i've tried looking at these games in the past and it never cut it. but booting DKR instantly triggered the nostalgia aha

[manic basin]

Yeah, it's amazing what has already sort of surpassed it in terms of original feel in the core. I sorta skipped N64 emulation mainly because a lot of stuff didn't feel right. NSO did a pretty good job with some games, which revitalized my interest, but this core has me actually excited.

[rose elbow]

i also spent a wee bit of money on an ebay n64 wee while back and that's been great .. but that comes with needing controllers.. retrotink/mods, everdrive.. etce.etc.

i never got it hdmi modded so it's still a WIP in itself hehe

left in development hell LOL

[eternal ravine]

I remember someone here got 1500 POUNDS for their HDMI modded N64

[rose elbow]

wow!

[hearty oar]

that's bananas, surely it can't be that expensive or difficult to get installed

[eternal ravine]

I think it was when the mod part was scarce

[rose elbow]

i wonder when that was

there was a wee period of the N64digital being out of stock, before GEM came along

but 1500 ?

wild

[eternal ravine]

Nintendo fans be ham

[rose elbow]

that seems like one of those deals where u put something up on ebay and u aim high purely coz u know people love to bargain and barter

and then someone jumps in and buys it LOL

[eternal ravine]

Yeah people with spare money will snag stuff if you present it well and it's rare
Especially during periods of increased fomo

[rose elbow]

ive put things up on ebay for absurdly generous prices and people still get all funny about it and insist on paying like $2 less or no deal

[eternal ravine]

I'm fixing to sell all my Nintendo handhelds
That smaller size n3DS is worth a bit now

[rose elbow]

oooh

i had a massive collection of handhelds and sold them

i kinda wish i kept more but also.. they were not being used at all tbh

i also wish i tried that smaller size New 3DS. i got the XL and you'd think, having big hands myself? XL would be good. but it did the opposite, the XL cramped my hands way more than anything else

can't make heads or tails of this stuff sometimes

[eternal ravine]

Yeah I find myself squinting at them and trying to see more detail
I appreciate them as art and inventions, though

[hearty oar]

I love my n3DS but the little stick nub thing is absolute pants, willing to bet its rubbish on any used one you buy

[eternal ravine]

I was playing DSi games on the n3DS last night

[hearty oar]

I wonder if anyone sells replacements...

[rose elbow]

n3DS ive been interested in again purely from a modding/getting video out of it kinda point of view

coz ye i did not really enjoy actually playing on that thing at all

the 3D is nice tho

[hearty oar]

it certainly is a hand cramping device

[rose elbow]

ahaha yea

it might be the weight ?

i dunno

it was really bad tho

[eternal ravine]

It has so many little controls and I like the cover etching

[rose elbow]

niiiice

i love the sness-y button layout

[hearty oar]

I've got a drawer full of those faceplates

[eternal ravine]

It feels like candy in the hands

[rose elbow]

XL was a sham lol

(imo!!! purely coz it gave me cramps) LOL

[eternal ravine]

I'm a fan of the "bronze" DSi XL
But you kind of need to have it on a table top

[hearty oar]

eh, this little one gave me cramps too

[rose elbow]

the ds lite never did for me

[hearty oar]

squared off edges and cramped controls I think

[languid dune]

I struggle with handhelds a lot these days. My neck gets really sore looking down at them.

[rose elbow]

ya

well, i dont mind switch but it depends on the game a bit

[rose elbow]

Vita was very very nice 👌

[eternal ravine]

Handheld N64 would be nice
Running real hardware, not emulation

[languid dune]

If only Sony didn't abandon it so early. And go with the proprietary memory cards.

[rose elbow]

oh ye

i mean

sony went in with the completely wrong approach kinda

cos they were trying to get like Uncharteds and Killzones out of it

[languid dune]

Strickly as a piece of hardware, it was amazing though.

[hearty oar]

I quite like the feel of the Switch Lite in the hand

[rose elbow]

but it eventualy just turned into an indie machine

[eternal ravine]

I have an massive PSP library loaded on a PSTV

[rose elbow]

nice nice nice

yeah PSP and Vita were both great

cost of Vita was insane and not really 'worth it' but still a fun machine

still never got a switch lite lol

with the number of revisions and things always coming down the line i figured something was bound to come sooner or later

[eternal ravine]

I had one of the Asian ones, but sold it

[languid dune]

This is ironically on topic! Because the N64 was "The fun machine".

[eternal ravine]

Oops, I shall continue in other channels

[languid dune]

Get N, or get out!

[eternal ravine]

All I'm saying is, some people are going to have their HDMI modded N64s hooked into a Tink 4K
While others will use the MiSTer core
faight

[hearty oar]

I'm going to have my RGB modded N64 hooked up to my PVM...as soon as I get around to actually RGB modding it

this core really hasn't helped my motivation in that regard

[rose elbow]

and some people use their MiSTer into Retrotink 4k

maybe 2 people

[chilly ember]

My n64 is gonna stay stock because of the core

[eternal ravine]

I want menu scanlines

[languid dune]

Once both Saturn and N64 are completed, the MiSTer will be such an insane retro gaming device. It already is, but that's next level shit!

[rose elbow]

yeah

i was poking around on google/reddit last week and searching things like "reddit mister fpga n64"

and just reading all the comments of people saying it's not possible :D

[eternal ravine]

And JT is getting into Konami's best arcade games

[rose elbow]

even from a few months ago ahah

[hearty oar]

in their defence, it's not possible in the sense of a perfect 1:1 recreation of the hardware on MiSTer...but obviously nobody anticipated Robert being talented and able to find the right set of compromises to get almost all of the way there

[rose elbow]

i wouldn't have purchased an n64 off ebay couple years back if i didnt have similar doubts myself!

[languid dune]

And it'll be better than any N64 emulator.

[rose elbow]

hehe

🙏

[eternal ravine]

Wii has some cool N64 games in the Virtual Arcade
480p

[hearty oar]

current n64 emulators are very accurate, if you're talking about old Mupen or PJ64 then sure

[eternal ravine]

Plus they can upscale

[hearty oar]

but emulators like Ares, Simple64 and current Mupen with parrell RDP are very fast and accurate

[rose elbow]

oh ye thats one thing with me for sure is, im very out of the loop on emulation

[languid dune]

I'm personally not a fan of upscaling the 32/64bit generation of consoles. I feel like it benefits the PS2/GCN/Xbox era much better.

[eternal ravine]

PS2 emulation is a rabbithole

[rose elbow]

i feel like my experience with n64/ps1 was always, every game was a case by case basis of running into issues and searching google/reddit,... troubleshoot, digging thru settings, resetting things, troubleshooting

[hearty oar]

PS2 would benefit so much from something like parallel RDP - the software renderer of PCSX2 is actually pretty decent and quite compatible, it's just waaaay too slow

and the HLE renderers are full of bugs

[rose elbow]

mister just makes everything so much easier ahaha

[spice shuttle]

I played and completed Star Soldier Vanishing Earth (one of the few overhead shooters for the N64) perfect 🙂

I am sure this has been asked before but can't seem to find it does anyone know which version of Mario 64 works? Or the patch?

[chilly ember]

https://vampier.net/N64/

Patch is here

[sonic kiln]

I finally got my n64digital installed but the system kept resetting randomly. due to a loose power supply, putting tape around it fixed it. the hw is really starting to show its age (though it is a power supply problem).

I can't wait for the core to be finished lol

[rose elbow]

oh wow! that sucks

easy fix but hard to motivate when n64 core is coming along and showing such amazing progress :)

controllers is such a pain point as well for this period... ps2 also with those pressure sensitive face buttons + ebay being flooded with fakes

[remote hatch]

I bought my first N64 some time ago, just for comparison purposes

right after purchase, I knew I couldn't play with this pad and had to buy a replacement with a different analog spacing 🤣

[rose elbow]

man

i would gladly use n64 controller but even just finding one in decent condition can be tough

i quite enjoyed the retrobit controller, it's a bit cheapy feeling and not totally the best but it gets the job done and the stick was working decently

[sonic kiln]

you can refresh the analog sticks with kitsch bent parts apparently.

I still have my childhood n64 controllers at home.

[rose elbow]

yeaaah that was something on my "to do" list

[sonic kiln]

i think they are in decent conditon

[rose elbow]

at one point i got the NSO n64 controllers and put them aside in cupboard praying for the fpga core to come along 🙏 ahahaha

my childhood system is a bit more technically my brothers so alot of all that stuff is at his

but i managed to grab my ice green controller

and funnily enough it works better than just about every 2nd hand controller ive got from ebay or local game stores

[remote hatch]

I'm unlikely to fall in love with the N64 right now, but there are some very good games I'd love to play

[rose elbow]

grow up with it much?

im trying to conceptualize visiting the n64 as an adult without the nostalgia and it's quite an odd concept for me hahaha

[remote hatch]

Amiga , SNES, Playstation 🙂

I was not convinced by the N64 at the time and the games were very expensive

[versed cairn]

I asked for a n64 as a kid, but my dad got me a playstation. He said it was better, but really he just wanted to be able to get games for me by burning them.

[rose elbow]

truly a glorious time ahaha

playstation was also awesome to be completely fair

[versed cairn]

the big hitters made the n64 look sooooo cool. now I know that the library was small, but at the time all I wanted was oot and golden eye

[rose elbow]

yeaah

[versed cairn]

I ended up absolutly loving the playstation in the end. crash and spyro were amazing

[rose elbow]

ive been replaying spyro again recently and that game always blows my mind looking at it. it feels like an outlier on the ps1 a bit

[versed cairn]

I was too young for most of the best playstation games, but really you don't need many games as a kid

[brisk edge]

I was a lucky kid that had both, however, that just meant my budget for games was like maybe you get 1 playstation and 1 N64 game a year lol
We got most of the higher profile N64 games, but we often opted for ps1 stuff because some of it was discounted. And then renting games kinda filled in the rest

[rose elbow]

about 1 game a year was for us too. everything was rentals pretty much

1-2 (christmas and birthday lol)

[brisk edge]

Luckily my cousins had an N64 so they snagged good stuff that we shared

Them: Mario 64, Goldeneye, Wrestling Games
Me: that very mediocre tom and Jerry fighter

[remote hatch]

Tekken , Ridge Racer, Final Fantasy, Soul Blade, Metal Gear Solid , Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, well N64 and Mario didn't count at all for me hehe

[versed cairn]

it's interesting how word of mouth and experiences change your perseption. it seemed like n64 had all the good games to me back then. now I know the ps1 has the best library ever but I didn't know about metal gear till the ps2

[remote hatch]

of course I also played on the N64 , my friend had an N64 and five games hehe , Wave Race made an incredible impression on me and still does 🙂

[versed cairn]

golden eye was a big moment for me as a kid

I thought my ps1 was so lame after that cause it could only do two player lol

[rose elbow]

i had step brothers with a ps1 so def played a good chunk of it. i feel like.. Tony Hawk was maybe the only game that was better than anything on n64 LOL

[versed cairn]

I didn't even know there was an adaptor

[hearty oar]

Ps1 games were amazing when I finally had a Ps2 years later and could just pick loads of them up for cheap

[brisk edge]

When used game stores had loads and loads of older games for like anywhere between $5-$30 was such a good time, it was a lot easier to convince my mom to get me a cheap used game over a brand new one.

[rose elbow]

i think as a kid i probably felt n64 was better than ps1 even tho ps1 had a ton of great stuff also

[versed cairn]

I strangly played tony hawk first on n64 lol

it's def beter on ps1

[rose elbow]

for me also it was blockbuster/rental stores selling "ex-rentals" for like $5-10 bucks

[brisk edge]

Definitely got my mileage out of that too

Really wish they didn't destroy the cart and labels so much in hindsight though

[rose elbow]

thats where i got HSV Adventure Racing (the australian version of Beetle Adventure Racing.. but with holden cars lol). that game is great. it's more like Need For Speech on the n64 but with boost power ups and crazy short cuts and things

slightly playable on current core but visuals arent all there yet

[hearty oar]

I have quite a lot of Ps2, Xbox and Gamecube games with yeah, rental labels, or just complete wrong box because the rental shop lost the original

[rose elbow]

also the clock timing is very variable atm which effects the music which is pretty funny

[hearty oar]

didn't really care too much as long as the games worked

[rose elbow]

my copy of Ocarina of time was an ex-rental actually. i borrowed my mates manual and did a shitty ass black and white scan and print job just so i could have something for the manual

[brisk edge]

Hell yeah

[hearty oar]

haha, that's a good mate

[rose elbow]

and ye. having a bodgy version of the game like that with a dodgy manual or stickers made 0 difference to the enjoyment of the game

[brisk edge]

I committed the sin of just printing out gamefaq guides, not realizing how long some of them were lol got into quite a bit of trouble with that

[rose elbow]

nowadays games have entered collectable status so im pretty sure selling a copy of Ocarina of time with a black and white manual would probably lower the estimated value if anything LOL

[rose elbow]

baha our dad borrowed a copy of Riven from a friend so he printed a massive like 100+ page gamefaqs manual and just stayed up all night getting drunk on wine playing it thru

speedrun

[brisk edge]

It certainly adds a charm to picking up a used copy, it has a story to tell. Like when I buy cart games I tend to back up the previous save files, kinda like to keep the past owner's legacy around in some form.

Also lol somewhere in my aunt's house there's a folder with like at least 200 pages of random gamefaq guides, a lot of fighting game move lists too lol

[rose elbow]

youtube Gameplay videos changed everything LOL

[versed cairn]

there use to be a notes section in manuals. I remember picking up one of the old sonics and it had the level select code written in pen in the manual

so cool

[brisk edge]

Definitely found some notes where people put actual strategies and stuff for bosses

Always cool to find that stuff

[rose elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-gif-25707934

the kid writing strategies in rental manuals

[brisk edge]

Or who wrote the fatalities down in my MK2 manual, you were a true hero looking out for everyone

[rose elbow]

hjahaha

[rose elbow]

omg hexen has co-op

[weary beacon]

@wanton sun what have you planned to code this week? We are like kids waiting for Santa 😉

[vapid hawk]

duke64 is running pretty well since the z-buffer fixes yesterday, you can't see enemies and items through walls anymore. there is something weird going on with the hud though, almost looks like z-fighting between hud elements

the numbers of your health will flicker on and off and stuff

[hearty oar]

might be a precision issue if they are just textured quads overlapping each other? Who knows lol, certainly not me

[vapid hawk]

its probably the best way to play duke on mister now

although its less faithful to the pc version than the psx one

[remote hatch]

3do core 😉

[hollow rune]

Virtual Boy headset that connects to MiSTer via SNAc

[solemn maple]

Look so much better on my crt after the latest update 😍

[limber willow]

That looks like a nice CRT for N64 too.
My PVM is too sharp for it

[solemn maple]

800 tvl I think

Sony 14L4

[limber willow]

I like it. I'm using my 20L5 as it's what I've got in the house right now

but N64 looks weird on it to me

[worn delta]

Just wondering, once you have your boot1.rom does switching between PAL/NTSC happen automatically or is there an option to set it? I'm looking at the core for first time in a few days and not seeing an option in the OSD.

[vapid hawk]

i think it switches automatically and also there's a manual toggle

[remote hatch]

yes, in debug menu

[worn delta]

How do you get to debug menu?

[vapid hawk]

you just click on it in the osd, its called debug

not hidden or anything

[worn delta]

Ah sorry, being dumb and not scrolling down

It's not in debug but in System Setting to change NTSC/PAL

Do we know if it does autoswap based on the .txt file or we need to set that before testing PAL?

Actually I can maybe test

[mortal panther]

Yes, it is supposed to happen automatically if you have both properly named boot ROMs present. It's based on the information present in the N64-database.txt file.

[mild ether]

I didn't know it was automatic. I got to get rid of the PAL boot1.rom so I don't get false positives for the Brazil PIF not working.

[remote hatch]

yeah , sorry SYSTEM 😄

[worn delta]

Nice, just tried and it does indeed autoswap, that is ace

[wanton sun]

yes it does autoswap, but it also means you should have a boot1.rom. If you never really want PAL you could ignore it, but there is no warning or anything

[daring meteor]

Oh yeah, by the way - If someone were to have their NTSC boot.rom incorrectly 2048 bytes, would that break PAL?

[worn delta]

Hopefully we can get the BIOS files added to the BIOS DB once the core moves into Main and Unstable Nightlies, should greatly reduce any issues there

[compact depot]

Right size is 1984 right?

[daring meteor]

Yes

[wanton sun]

should not, there are 2048 reserved for each

[daring meteor]

Alright, good

[wanton sun]

even bigger one should not break the other one, but only itself, as the address wraps 🙂

[worn delta]

Something I would like to run through now the build is far along is how the gigaleak roms are running and compare against how they do on real hardware, I think this video should be useful for referring against. Hopefully get some time to test that but if anyone beats me to it, go for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SN9-ldKwco&pp=ygUMbjY0IGdpZ2FsZWFr

[daring meteor]

Also excellent, through I don't think anyone's using a PIF not of those 2 sizes

[red blade]

Pardon my incredible ignorance but how easy is it currently to set up an NSO N64 controller? Worth the effort or just wing it for now.

[sly wasp]

anyone using update_n64 : is this normal? I'm trying to get to the bottom of this black screen issue I'm getting. Lcd monitor and completely fresh mister install (I only ran update_all once before update_N64) so I haven't messed with any settings

[wanton sun]

with bluetooth: extremly easy. just connect. With usb cable you need to exchange the kernel (copy a file to sdcard)

[red blade]

Sounds perfectly do-able then. Many thanks Robert. You are a legend btw.

[vapid hawk]

morning Robert, we found a few small visual bugs in OOT overnight

[wanton sun]

the tree?

[vapid hawk]

i think you were asking if it was perfect

the tree and the sky on hyrule field

[wanton sun]

yes i have seen the sky, it gets black for some seconds

[vapid hawk]

seems to be around dawn/dusk

[wanton sun]

hard for me to debug, as i would need to create a savestate in the emu when it happens, but as it works there i don't know when it is

the tree i could debug

[vapid hawk]

there's a way to see the ingame time

[wanton sun]

hitting a stone?

[vapid hawk]

yeah

[wanton sun]

yes that could work

if i find time today i might work on the transparency stuff, could be that it fixes the loot sprites which are also wrong

[vapid hawk]

sounds good. this was my first time sitting down to play the core for several hours. its quite amazing what you've achieved already.

[wanton sun]

there are also random stray pixels at the border of polygons. Banjo also has them, but i still don't have a good way to reproduce them

[vapid hawk]

maybe one of the demo/test roms can repro it?

[wanton sun]

these:

they are static, so maybe i will just create a bunch of savestates and hope one of them shows it

[mild ether]

Do you think it could be the loot sprite that causes the hard lock in some way? It was happening as soon as you kill the redead and they start to fall. So it appears it's related to the animation, effect or sound that happens on death.

In OOT.

[wanton sun]

no, it's just pixel color

[vapid hawk]

i did find a sound bug in biohazard2, the music gets stuck. its quite strange. it even persists between reloading the core i think

[wanton sun]

reloading the core even? i cannot imagine where this should be, in your tv?

i mean, there is nothing in the hardware after the core

[vapid hawk]

haha no i mean like, it only seems to know how to play one music track

even when its the wrong music for that room, it just always plays the same one

[wanton sun]

oh that kind of stuck 🙂

[vapid hawk]

i thought maybe it was some core state so i reloaded the core and reloaded my save and it still does it

[timid torrent]

Maybe worth looking at this? https://www.practicerom.com/ it lets you save state in game as well as setting the exact time of day

[quasi storm]

I thought he meant a hanging note

[wanton sun]

if this was the psx channel i would ask if you use single or multi bin, but in this case here, i have no idea 😦

[vapid hawk]

oh thats a good shout, the OOT practice rom

god that things incredible

[timid torrent]

You can view memory too

[vapid hawk]

yeah the n64 music is all more like midi afaik ?

[wanton sun]

the game must fetch the data from rom, then decompress. Must be some game logic that reads the wrong file

the oot test could help with the sky, thank you

[quasi storm]

It was midi-like on PSX, too. That's why it carried over so well.

Only better!

[odd vector]

I wonder why Bomberman 64 does not boot

[red blade]

NSO controller feels pretty darn great too! I get strong feels with N64.

[teal sail]

Yeah, some games have this unfortunately. One of the games where you clearly see it is "Top Gear Overdrive", you cant play the game directly, it hangs after menu, but it is very visible in the attract mode, may be you can make a savestate.

[odd vector]

i thought those stray pixels can be solved by throwing the antialiasing over it

[inner bronze]

No, that might even smear the stray pixels all over the place

[ripe cargo]

@worn deltaIs it ok to PM you a quick question?

[primal bolt]

does .zip work yet or no?

[mild ether]

No

[worn delta]

absolutely!

[vapid hawk]

zip doesn't work ?

afaik it works on every core - even when it shouldn't

[primal bolt]

i think it needs added manually for new cores

[hearty python]

7z is the problem

[primal bolt]

i know 7z doesnt work

[vapid hawk]

7z never works yeah thats normal

[mild ether]

I mean unless I missed something you have to have just the rom files unzipped in N64 folder.

[vapid hawk]

zip should be fine, it's chd that has to be added to cd cores

[mild ether]

Could be wrong.

[primal bolt]

yea well unzipped is 30gb and zipped is 15gb

[hearty python]

Main mister can 7z

[safe robin]

i got my n64 romset in a zip file since first test versions, no problem, but 7z is not supported afaik?

[primal bolt]

thanks Luke

[mild ether]

Oh nice! I didn't know that was a thing.

[vapid hawk]

zip works on all cores except you shouldn't use it for cd images - use chd instead for those

[rose elbow]

ohh Ocarina of Time boots

[primal bolt]

always use zip and chd it saves half the space

thats my recommendation

[mild ether]

Yeah the GameCube versions of OOT are really stable.

[primal bolt]

unless space is not an issue for you but I can fill 4gb easily

4tb i mean

[rose elbow]

this is a modded version of Ocarina of time, https://github.com/z64proto/sw97/blob/master/README.md

[hearty python]

PS1 and Saturn can fill an sdcard fast 😅

[rose elbow]

silly little tangent :D

[primal bolt]

well not exactly sure what every single zipped rom collection for every core, plus all cd games in chd for every core comes to but its probably at least 3TB+

plus arcade

[mild ether]

I got a lot of space but I haven't messed with the CD images really yet just some games I like for TG16

[primal bolt]

the cds is what takes up the space really

[hearty python]

20tb+ I guess

[primal bolt]

not if you use chd

[mild ether]

When Saturn is complete it will be more a issue because I like Saturn.

[primal bolt]

its not gonna be even 10tb unless you are putting every single PC iso on there, but thats alot of wasted space

[hearty python]

PS1 is huge alone

[primal bolt]

PS1 is like 1.5tb for full chd set, one copy of each game minus PAL duplicates

i mean just exclusives for each region I think, and all demo discs, etc. is 1.5TB chd set

with USA as priority

[rose elbow]

oop. good to have a value at least

[primal bolt]

saturn will be less

[mild ether]

Better start downloading now so I don't get a nasty gram from the fiber company for trying to get it in one month.

[primal bolt]

I think you will never run out with 4TB drive

might get 5TB just to be safe and have extra space

[mild ether]

You can just map it to a network drive correct?

[hearty python]

PS1 had over 7900 games, much more as other systems.

[primal bolt]

yea you can use a network

I think retroNAS is the best way

unless that is not needed

[mild ether]

I just would rather not have another thing attached to the MiSTer.

[lean spruce]

as I dont like sports games, I removed all of those and that freed up a lot of space

[primal bolt]

im waiting for mister express case so I can put an SSD drive in it

if that still comes out

[rose elbow]

oh yeah SSD seemed .. at the very least p nice and quick n easy. network would require a bit of setup and thinking on my part

mostly just thinking about, networking into what to store the massive amount of games

[lean spruce]

I have the Mister Multi System myself

[primal bolt]

network is great, as long as it never goes down or you dont need to use yoru mister at another location

[rose elbow]

do u network just to your computer?

[viscid nebula]

what I miss

[mild ether]

Computer or NAS.

[primal bolt]

if you really want to network I would look into RetroNAS

you can do it with a computer

https://www.retrorgb.com/introducing-retronas.html

[hearty python]

512 gb sdcard is much for local storage on de10. Bigger cards are meanwhile to expensive compared to ssds.

[primal bolt]

512gb is half the price from a few years ago, so its nice to see prices come down

its not enough space for me anymore since PSX and Saturn came out

[vapid hawk]

i just use a 512gb card and i curate my roms (especially cd cores) i don't think its even half full right now

[primal bolt]

im a full set madman

curating is more for if you only want to play games you heard of but I like to explore

takes too much time researching games to see if its something you would want to play. rather just throw it all on there

[odd vector]

how do you handle the no-intro zip for n64, every game is packaged separately 😮 What a mess

[primal bolt]

the everdrive pack zip?

[odd vector]

yea

[lean spruce]

the everdrive is a single zip with foldres and roms in it

[primal bolt]

you want to keep it how it is, but change the 7zip to zip

re-zip it i mean

[odd vector]

so talking about the one from archive

unzip and rezip, gotcha

[primal bolt]

yea re-zip with best compression

[hot spoke]

The Everdrive/htgdb set is also on archive

[odd vector]

the one that I have is full of 7z's

[primal bolt]

oh you got the wrong one

[zinc dew]

I couldn’t and I have well over 500 games for both systems!

[odd vector]

i'm getting the one that Vampier recommends

[hot spoke]

It's not the htgdb set then

[hearty python]

My personal problem is that finding get worser with complete sets. Copied one a Fullset for c64 with over 16k games 😂

[zinc dew]

Yeah, I don’t do full sets partly for that. Most of a system’s library is stuff you wouldn’t play anyways.

[odd vector]

okay, I know what happened. I have an really old romset for n64.. -.-

[rose elbow]

thx appreciate it

[zinc dew]

Glad you figured it out!

[native mesa]

What benefit does this have over simple smb share from a NAS

[elfin relic]

there's no difference except maybe retronas is easier to get going if you don't already have a nas

[vapid hawk]

you can run retronas in a docker on your existing nas if you want

[inner bronze]

Bare Debian/Archlinux with ZFS for the win

Frick SMB/Samba/Windows Shares

[quasi storm]

The level of compatibility already is seriously impressive! I come from a time when N64 emulation was stagnant for YEARS, and some games never worked, and here Robert has already made crazy progress!

[inner bronze]

So what day are we proclaiming Robert Peip Day

[patent dragon]

every day

[native mesa]

To what end? It seems like all the features are simply network shares that are already setup

[vapid hawk]

it has some optimizations for sharing to weirder platforms like ps2, xbox etc

[native mesa]

Hmm I've had no problem with PS2 sharing I think it just requires SMB1 protocol

[hearty python]

The boxes do all the same, but some are easier to configure

[inner bronze]

SMB1

[zinc dew]

Super Mario Bros. 1?

[inner bronze]

The lovely exploit ridden first version of windows shares

[red blade]

Less is more when it comes to rom's. The more I see the less I'm inclined to play.

[native mesa]

Yeah option paralysis is real

[inner bronze]

The days my parents only allowed me one game a year versus my flashcart days where I had unlimited games

[red blade]

I tend to make a curated sets that I will actually play for every system and just rotate out games.

[native mesa]

What I do is create a 'Library' subfolder in every games directory that has full romsets then copy my favorites to the main directory

[vapid hawk]

yeah i started with only the roms from various mini-systems as my baseline in the beginning

[quasi storm]

That is actually a great idea!

Most of the games on my MiSTer are ones I've had forever.

[topaz otter]

What i do is dump 52000 roms in a folder and pretend its action 52000

[quasi storm]

Some of them are still named in the 8.3 standard 😆

[native mesa]

I hope you have a plethora of bootleg roms like somari

[primal bolt]

I'm not sure but it has a bunch of features I think

I think its an open source project

[native mesa]

If it had a nice GUI with some library management features thatd be useful

[primal bolt]

I didn't dig into it yet, but eventually I will most likely get a NAS setup for home

[native mesa]

It's worth it

[mild ether]

Funny thing is now I have unlimited games that I always wanted and pretty much just play the limited selection of games I had when I was a kid the most.

[native mesa]

Especially with all these disc games now

[mild ether]

Still cool to have them all.

[native mesa]

Would it be possible to have a 'goldeneye' mode that maps two controllers to one or would that require a mister main update?

[topaz otter]

Truenas and a low end board, takes about fifteen minutes to set up

[weary beacon]

OMV6 works great for me on a RPI4. runs utorrent, Shared folders, jellyfin. If you need more than 2 USB drives though, you will want a different device.

[orchid nimbus]

Run again

[weary beacon]

Zelda: OOT MQ, I was able to beat the spider and grab the heart. The teleport out didn't show up and I wasn't able to trigger leaving the dungeon. Sorry if this was all ready reported.

[verbal cedar]

Made it to Dongongo cavern ^

Grass looks terrible, light didnt snow up for leaving the first dungeon, twilight and midnight just turns the sky black.

But I think all that is known

[wanton sun]

the teleport is there, you just cannot see it. You need to run around until you find it. sounds helps a bit. It's like this childrens birthday game where you run around blindfolded with a stick trying to hit a pot and all scream "hot" or "cold"

[verbal cedar]

Exactly that haha

[cerulean elk]

Sounds like you had diff birthday games. We had a donkey and ran around with a sharp pin while blindfolded lol

[mortal panther]

Then we would go throw lawn darts high into the air... blindfolded.

[cerulean elk]

“Hey kids here a sharp pointy thing. Go wander around blindfolded and hope nobody gets hurt. Also try to put this tail on a picture of a donkey”

[obtuse dome]

Not sure if there is a better way to do it, but a buddy and I have been playing through old rpg's in "co-op" by basically merging the controllers and splitting the characters ala how Final Fantasy III has multiplayer on the SNES.

player_1_controller=usb

We just threw this line in an alt config so when we select that config it basically mergers all the controllers to P1

It works best though when the controllers are the same models otherwise the mapping can be a little strange, but YMMV

[native mesa]

Ooh I'll try this with goldeneye for sure

[orchid nimbus]

or a blindfolded kid with a baseball bat trying to hit a paper doll filled with candy

[cerulean elk]

Yep. All our games came with a potential for injury

[brisk drum]

How dare you mock my traditions !?

We need to get a piñata for vampires birthday so that he may understand the joy of smashing that mofucka

[cerulean elk]

Just because your parents gave all your friends sticks and let them hit you doesn’t make it a tradition

[brisk drum]

Big reach!

To this day I still get a piñata for my birthday and fill it with adult stuff for the guests

Mostly little shot bottles

[orchid nimbus]

I'm still salty over the 80 year war - I can't help it 😉

[balmy dagger]

I'd party with you, 🌮

[brisk drum]

Hell yeah bro

[balmy dagger]

I'd probably die.

[brisk drum]

Lol nahh it’s not that kind of wild lol

[orchid nimbus]

@brisk drum there you go - ignoring my comment - prettending the 80 year war never happened.... typical

😛

[brisk drum]

What war bro?

[odd vector]

does someone know why Bomberman 64 doesn't boot by any chance? 🙂 What feature do I have to look out for?

[cerulean elk]

Nips

Nobody in the Midwest says it but in New England the little bottles are nips

[brisk drum]

Uhhh .. around here it’s a racial slur

[orchid nimbus]

Eighty Years' War, (1568–1648), the war of Netherlands independence from Spain, which led to the separation of the northern and southern Netherlands and to the formation of the United Provinces of the Netherlands (the Dutch Republic)

[brisk drum]

I think piñatas are more of a Latin American thing ..

[orchid nimbus]

which is spanish

[balmy dagger]

I'm glad that term stops at the NY state line 😄

[brisk drum]

Not exactly

[orchid nimbus]

@brisk drum I'm pulling your leg with my comments in case it wasn't clear 😉

[cerulean elk]

“Nip
The alcohol bottle size known as a nip is also called a mini and contains 50 ml of alcohol. That’s about 1.7 ounces and approximately one 1.5-ounce shot. Nips are commonly sold in grocery and liquor stores. They don’t have a place in the inventory of bars and restaurants, because they aren’t a cost-effective method of buying alcohol for many customers. “

From google lol

[orchid nimbus]

but that @#@# really happened and was not a good thing to happen

[brisk drum]

Okey dokes , don’t be saying that shit in my city though ..lol

[balmy dagger]

It also explains the nomenclature of "have a nip of this" or similar phrases.

[knotty zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dumpsterfire-flooding-fail-gif-13031064

[brisk drum]

Indeed , I am aware of the literal meaning of the word , but please be aware it has a negative connotation in some places

[balmy dagger]

But still... keep that nonsense in New England. 😂

[cerulean elk]

Lol sounds like the rest of the country just isn’t as enlightened

[brisk drum]

Not trying to stand on a soap box or anything .. just saying dawgs

[brisk drum]

THE CHIRAQ life has hardened your soul

[orchid nimbus]

hey look it's the US government

[balmy dagger]

More our economic system, but point taken.

[verbal cedar]

Where exactly are people still saying it? Never even heard the word used that way my whole life

[patent dragon]

not to get dragged into this great N64 discussion, but surely its a matter of context for a word that has actual common meaning

[brisk drum]

I am done with this topic ..

[verbal cedar]

Fair enough

[brisk drum]

Back to the retro games please

[zealous hull]

i like zelda

it's fun

[native mesa]

Zelda is a person not an it

[zealous hull]

damn

he's a good character tho

i like his sword

[orchid nimbus]

I can't believe they made Zelda a girl - this political BS has gone too far! I say we boycot Nintendo!

[brisk drum]

Zelda the hero of time

[orchid nimbus]

heroine....

[zealous hull]

yeah, the games are so good they're like a drug. agree

[balmy dagger]

Zelda is the little guy in green.

Noob.

[brisk drum]

https://tenor.com/view/davechapelle-what-huh-confused-confuse-gif-6785125

Zelda like a drug?

[orchid nimbus]

[GIF (not JIF) of Zelda tossing a chicken off a cliff]

[brisk drum]

That’s animal cruelty ese !

[balmy dagger]

Throwing birds off cliffs is a Nintendo gameplay staple.

[zealous hull]

hell yeah first thing i did in SM64 on the core was drop that little penguin baby

[brisk drum]

Tradition .. miyamoto demands it in every game he produces

[orchid nimbus]

Yeet!!

[brisk drum]

That’s just cruel …

That little penguin actually has a family who cares for him

The chickens of hyrule do as well that’s why you get attacked when you over do it

[zealous hull]

I don't know why I find it funny. I remember showing my partner (who also grew up playing SM64), and she was horrified.

[brisk drum]

Yeah that wasn’t a thing I did as a child either .. always got that little dude to his momma

[balmy dagger]

It's been said that Miyamoto got the idea as he wandered farms in his hometown, capturing and brutally murdering birds with his bare hands.

[zealous hull]

I showed her I had her baby, then promptly dropped him off the cliff in front of her.

[brisk drum]

I hope they reference the penguin toss on the next Mario movie

[orchid nimbus]

oh we joke around quite a lot here - but we always keep it respectful never the less 🙂 welcome to the server by the way

[brisk drum]

My gawwwd!

[zealous hull]

Okay, reading back my last sentence I'm beginning to see the problem.

wtf I did that as a child

[cerulean elk]

No throwing animals in Nintendo games!

[zealous hull]

love animals irl tho, not a sociopath

[cerulean elk]

I made it a point to return the penguin to momma penguin in one of the videos just to point out “don’t throw animals” lol

[brisk drum]

I learned my lesson about not fucking with animals in Nintendo games from link to the past ..

[balmy dagger]

Video Game Life Lessons spin off channel?

[knotty zealot]

and then you got back into it in baldur's gate 3

[brisk drum]

Don’t mess with the cuccos

[brisk drum]

Actually no I been jamming on doom eternal

[cerulean elk]

Don’t throw penguins. End of lesson

[orchid nimbus]

return - then still toss .... that's even more monstrous... especially since momma is watching

[brisk drum]

I spent way too much time playing hexen last night .. game is super easy to cheese with the wizard

[knotty zealot]

i tried hexen on my vita. fail. probably lack buttons

[balmy dagger]

You're a cheese wizard.

[brisk drum]

You gotta try that shizzz …

[orchid nimbus]

I like Gouda (Gow-Dah... not Goo-Dah)

[brisk drum]

Don’t talk about cheese bro ..

[orchid nimbus]

Ok ... I'll cut the cheese

I mean I'll cut it out

[eternal island]

"unless its castlevania, dont try to eat the chickens"

[orchid nimbus]

.... wall turkey/chick is sus as hell

[brisk drum]

Wait that’s mutton in castlevania .. I think I only ever seen chicken in super castlevania iv

[eternal island]

and thats ok

[brisk drum]

Dang I can’t wait till CASTLEVIZZLE 64 works

[orchid nimbus]

CastleQuest64

[balmy dagger]

"What a terrible night to have salmonella"

[orchid nimbus]

or worse

[lament escarp]

Same. But thats a tlb title, so it'll be some time.

[compact depot]

Is there any technical block preventing @whole tulip adding this core's repo into the unstable nightly auto builds mechanism?

[brisk drum]

Yeah I think you would get more than salmonella from chicken that’s been inside of a musty castle walls for who knows how long

[sly wasp]

Awesome. Thanks. I was right-clicking to save from github so it was giving me 132kb pifs instead of 2kb ones. Still something (probably in my ini) causing black screens in every game but fresh install on.a new SD card fixed that. Thanks so much for replying and helping.

[brisk drum]

Dang that’s tlb! .. shoot ..

[lament escarp]

But in a way it means it will run better right out off the gate, kinda like oot, as most rpd thingies will already be implemented when tlb is done!

[brisk drum]

The wait will make the experience much sweeter ..

[orchid nimbus]

I don't know what happened - but it looked like you ran the script without internet.

make sure you run the script after your network initiliazes

[cerulean elk]

Damn that’s cold

[eternal island]

can already fully beat a number of the games i really like already. banjo, mario 64. oot, turok and smash. the others are all harder. goldeneye, perfect dark, conkers bfd and turok 2 and 3 and a few others

surprised its moving along this fast

oh and pokemon snap.. i like that one. seems to fully work, but no flash saving yet

used to play it as a kid and just throw apples at pokemon to knock them out. a monster

[brisk drum]

The depravity here today is beyond any bounds known to men

[orchid nimbus]

I'm a vampire after all - cruelty is my game

cruelty and the beast

[brisk drum]

Do vampires go to the bathroom ?

Anyone know ?

[orchid nimbus]

Elizabeth Bathory was just misunderstood

[drowsy lantern]

I think Robert should make it that the core refuses to launch any other game until you've completed Q-u-e-s-t 64

[orchid nimbus]

-Quest64- is pretty cool

[safe robin]

has anyone already tried OverKart 64 on the Core ? Its a Mario Kart 64 Mod that just adds new Race Tracks. Whats Cool the YT channel also has Tutorials on making your own Tracks and general modding help for Mario Kart 64
https://youtu.be/nHiT6mvVBRc?si=vcb_A30GnPAFfePK

[lament escarp]

You did it!

[zinc dew]

He did it!

[lament escarp]

Not so special now, are you?

[orchid nimbus]

@zinc dew I figured it out 😄 I defeated the regex 😄

@woeful grove can come up with a new one 😄

[inner bronze]

Frick. I cant use homoglyphs.

[zinc dew]

[lament escarp]

-Quest64- is known as Holy Magic Century in Germany.

[inner bronze]

Secret propaganda for the Holy Roman Empire

[lament escarp]

Finally I can tell the truth!

I think it's fun when the titles get completely changed in German, but even better when they just pick a random, other english name.

[worn delta]

It was Holy Magic Century in the UK as well

Which makes you wonder what they thought of the potential American audience when they called it "Quest 64"

Be funny to apply this to other games and wind up with
"Soccer 64"
"Racing 64"
"Puzzle 64"
"Fighting 64"
"Shooting 64"

[inner bronze]

Well, it was shorter than "Role Playing Game 64"

[marble cargo]

They were probably just hoping to cash in on the trend of slapping 64 on a lot of the games, maybe to trick people into thinking it's a quality first party title.

[inner bronze]

The famed sequel to "Role Playing Game 63"

[marble cargo]

It's obvious the generic name didn't work, which is why the PAL and NTSC-J releases changed the name to something more unique.

[worn delta]

I hear the sequel "Role Playing Game 69" was a PC-98 exclusive

[daring meteor]

I love קווסט 64

[ocean lily]

sorta; probably more like a tracker - but it's all in software, so it could be anything tbh - some games even use MP3s

[drowsy lantern]

It could also be that there was a trademark issue in North America preventing them from using that name.

[vague sun]

If you didn’t get to catch the Reflex Adapt stream live, I put the VOD up on YouTube. https://youtu.be/-MVQy-dbddI?si=QIyhO--G0GBPj10A

[topaz otter]

I feel like this is the worst game to test, because at least with ocarina a walkthrough will let you know what to expect

[quaint rune]

That’s a good point

[topaz otter]

In master quest i wouldnt be able to tell whats a solution and whats a bug

Isnt there also stuff in that game thats randomized

[desert crow]

the invisible teleport thing happens on regular oot GC version in core also

must be some unimplemented thing or a bug

[weary palm]

No, nothing's randomized like that

[topaz otter]

When mario came out it was, obviously, called Mario 64. So IGN started saying Zelda64 because they didn't know the name of it when it was in development

it spread to gamefaqs and they started putting 64 at the end of every n64 game name

then it spread to publishers and they started doing it

because like you have Robotron for the PS1 and Robotron for the N64, how do you know which is which

simple, change the second one to Robotron64

[weary palm]

There was a lot of "Super this" and "Super that" in the SNES era as well. Super Tennis and Super Soccer.

[topaz otter]

but theres a lot of games that are referred to as 64 that its not in their name anywhere

like Superman: The New Superman Adventures

and people call it superman 64

[weary palm]

Super Superman sounds cool 😎

[weary beacon]

Yeah I actually watched a walk through and thats how I knew there was a blue light ring to walk to. I didn't see it but it seemed to be in the center. I walked all around the center but couldn't find it. Prolly just me not being right on the money.

[native mesa]

It's a little off center

You can follow the sound

[weary beacon]

thanks, that was what robert said. I was just replying to his comment he made to mine.

i turned it off. hopefully I just need to talk to the tom celic (tree) and it will continue on even with out finding it.

if not I will turn the sound way up on my next test

[orchid nimbus]

I looked at a youtube video to find the location

[viscid nebula]

I'm kind of glad they added 64

its easier to distinguish games like mk64 instead of saying mario kart on the nintendo 64

[native mesa]

It would have been Ultra Mario Kart

[viscid nebula]

oof

doesn't roll off the tongue

they wanted to hype the 64 bits

its 64 bitches! not 32x!

[native mesa]

They couldn't do Mario Kart Ultra... MK Ultra

[viscid nebula]

come play qv357...64!

boy those filters are getting harder and harder to bypass

[sharp beacon]

A game that will blow your mind..

[viscid nebula]

can't even say b3st 64

they literally banned 3st 64

collataeral damage

guess 64 isn't the best 😦

quess 64?

woohoo

new skip found

[topaz otter]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/17-of-nintendo-64-videogame-titles-end-with-64.189615/

[viscid nebula]

quess64 any%

[native mesa]

Quest64.z64

Bruh Impa is stacked

[orchid nimbus]

rule34

[viscid nebula]

GIMME RULE 34 QUESSSSSSSSSSS 64

[nimble needle]

Wonder how that compares to 'Super' for the SNES? 🤔

[orchid nimbus]

dude.... I googled.... DON'T GOOGLE IT!!!

[manic basin]

Let's invent rule 64 just for texture filtered characters....

[viscid nebula]

[inner bronze]

How many DS games ended in DS

[native mesa]

How many Wii u games ended in U

[orchid nimbus]

F-zero U

😄

[quaint rune]

🤔 jeopardy theme plays

[native mesa]

New Super Mario Bros. Ultra 64 U DS

[pale granite]

you should know better, here is your eye bleach 🍶

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/you-deserved-it-barney-ross-sylvester-stallone-the-expendables-you-got-what-you-deserve-gif-15964561629869638460

[steady basalt]

Just to let you all know, connecting a NTSC device on a PAL-M only TV results in a perfect black and white image. Source: I played a lot of PS2 on a Pal-M only TV haha. All tube TVs some years later had to support Pal-M, Pal-N and NTSC (Tri norma standard for South America region).

[daring meteor]

Luckily enough the Core doesn't output an NTSC signal right now (Only when Mike here tackles it), so doesn't matter at the moment

[native mesa]

If it's not NTSC then what is it

Works fine on my NTSC trini

[orchid nimbus]

SECAM / PAL-60 ?

[daring meteor]

RGB, of course

It works on your NTSC triny because you have an adapter somewhere that converts it to NTSC (Or an RGB mod)

[primal bolt]

does that PAL-60 bios make pal games run at 30/60 fps (and too fast)?

i think its the iQue bios

[native mesa]

If you count the analog IO board as an adapter then sure I guess

[daring meteor]

It seems to act the same as an NTSC bios

[primal bolt]

interesting

[daring meteor]

What type of cable you use?

[native mesa]

YPbPr

[primal bolt]

YPbPr... a real man's connection

[daring meteor]

Yeah that's also an option

Core outputs either RGB or YPbPr yeah

[desert crow]

i tried to convert the RGB with a board, and doesn't work yet. sync looked messed up. tried with new core that had the change. Not sure if it's game specific

[modern sleet]

If anyone wants a YC build just ping me. Seeing as it's the definitive analog output.

[daring meteor]

Wait, 3970 is more compatible than 3980 after all?

[native mesa]

Lol

I assume you mean what was on the hardware

[daring meteor]

Nah it might be better even for us RGB/YpbPr guys looking at the code

He added a bunch of resolutions

[modern sleet]

Shh

I talked to Robert about it, and it really doesn't make sense to add in a bunch of hacks right now, it will all get ironed out when he makes the async module and just sets one resolution and scales all the games to it like original hardware

[daring meteor]

Fair

[wanton sun]

yes, just wait 2-3 months and do your effort then. It will be very welcome as i have no CRT 🙂

[mortal panther]

which really means 2-3 weeks... 😉

[primal bolt]

Ha

[manic basin]

Robert's moving so fast we're going to have already had the core for 3 years in 6 months.

</Primer>

[daring meteor]

When Robert says the async module will be done in 2-3 months you know the core is in a good state

[wanton sun]

i had both in parallel with the psx core for a while, maybe i also do this or at least leave it as build option

[daring meteor]

Ah, it was in parallel? Wasn't aware of that

[wanton sun]

as audio clock is also bound to the async clock, sound will never be right without it, so it kind of gets more important due to that

[orchid nimbus]

oh wow

[daring meteor]

Ah

[hearty python]

A small crt should not be a problem. Most are happy to get rid off.

[desert nest]

A good number of folks know their value these days, even the elderly lady I got a Bravia from recently. 😂

And worse yet, you'll need to rebuild them as the capacitors have all gone bad by now.

[native mesa]

People still leave them in the treelawns here

[desert nest]

Lucky you

[languid dune]

Just one more byte and we could finally play Rush 2049!

[hearty python]

My two crts for 0€ was over one year online. But that was bigger one 60-85KG weight… 😂

[orchid nimbus]

see above

not going to happen in the near future

#1096015979055697940 message

thanks MikeS 🙂

[vagrant ivy]

Nothing in the leak should ever be used to validate the Core

doing so risks legal action

[wanton sun]

feel free to try them, but i will not touch it, sorry

[vagrant ivy]

In fact the leak really should never be mentioned since it breaks server rules on Copyright material

its not just copyrighted material. Its stolen material

[modern sleet]

@daring meteor it's not that important, making the adjustment for Hsync though makes a big difference for YC.

[daring meteor]

Could ask Robert just for the relavant line without adding all the divisors

[wanton sun]

you can ask (you even did now) but i don't know what the question even is, sorry 😅

[pallid falcon]

Seaside Branch 64?

[deft tree]

no its a stick in the mud

[vagrant ivy]

Really care little of what you think. The core must be protected from taint

[daring meteor]

Basically, Mike's changes include setting a bunch of divisors for different resolutions and slightly changing when the hsync starts
unless I'm wrong
And I say, if just the second part's enough to enable YC, isn't it good to change?

[deft tree]

exactly lol

clownshoes comment for sure

[pallid falcon]

Debatable if that is either a stick, or mud

[vagrant ivy]

Rule 5 Don't post stuff that's copyright protected and don't ask for it to be posted.

[manic basin]

"It's in the name!™"

[deft tree]

by this same logic, every single video of gameplay on a mister is verboten, as it's copyright protected

[vagrant ivy]

Take it up with a Mod if you think so

[orchid nimbus]

I explained the DMCA to Tim in a dm

[short hill]

these forum rules apply only here, not on youtube they have their own rules

[deft tree]

you're the one one dense enough to be claiming this absurdity, so i took it up with you

[daring meteor]

I am playing Super Fighter Demo

[mortal panther]

The material isn't being shared here...

[wanton sun]

let's keep all that discussion out here and talk about something positive instead

[deft tree]

We were, we were talking about how cool the tech demos from the gigaleak were on the core

[wanton sun]

let me find something quick

which game is it?

[manic basin]

Ogre battle?

I don't actually know.

[fair stump]

Command and conquer?

[quaint rune]

The hungry hungry caterpillar with AA turned on ?

[daring meteor]

Mode 7?

[deft tree]

CnC was my guess too

[safe robin]

Jurassic park? Was there one?

[quaint rune]

The gta v map

[manic basin]

Guybrush.... get to the shack!

[spring niche]

Monkey Island....sorry couldn´t resist

[manic basin]

HAH!!

[mortal panther]

Lost: The Video Game

[tacit belfry]

Pilot Wings? Hnng

[quasi storm]

Almost looks like pilotwings 64

[safe robin]

Westerland? 🤡

[mortal panther]

It does look like Pilotwings.

[wanton sun]

we have a winner

[mortal panther]

Yep!

[quasi storm]

Dude, why did I know that...

[versed cairn]

YEEEEEEES I LOVE THIS GAME

[blissful plaza]

A RSP bug was somewhere ? Or completely anything else ?

[pallid falcon]

I'm looking forward to playing that again, it is so good

[mortal panther]

I had no choice but to play a lot of it, because it was one of only 2 launch titles here in the US. 😄

[quasi storm]

What was wrong with this one, again?

[pallid falcon]

Probably the best Pilotwings game

[wanton sun]

unfortunatly it's still full of bugs and glitches and hangs, but at least it boots now, haha

[manic basin]

Nice!

[short hill]

new games that boot is always very exciting

[quasi storm]

Here's hoping that a boat load of other games inherit its fixes.

[daring meteor]

Was it RSP?

[quick arch]

Dragon QUest VII 😅

[pallid falcon]

Did you find Wario?

[wanton sun]

much simpler: there is a place in ram that gets initilized at boot time with the ram size to either 40 or 80. If you don't do that, the games think they have 0 Mbyte ram. It fixes at least the boot for 1080, pilot wings, pokemon stadium and dk64

[daring meteor]

0 Mbyte ram, ha

[deft tree]

very low bar lol

[manic basin]

OHHHHKAY!

[fair stump]

Wow

[mortal panther]

Always appreciate you explaining how you fix various things. Extremely interesting to me.

[deft tree]

i always wanted to like Pilotwings but man 64 especially is painfully tedious on a lot of levels

and controls so rough

[wanton sun]

@weary palm actually reminded me of it. I had it in my emulator but didn't implement it in the core yet

[short hill]

maybe my version of ocarina will boot now too

[quasi storm]

Is that also why, say, road rash 64 runs but doesn't detect the expansion pack?

[wanton sun]

maybe

[pallid falcon]

I always wanted a Pilot-wii-ngs game, but it was not to be. 3DS game is okay, but like a cut-down version

[primal bolt]

vampier, beat wcw backstage assault

[short hill]

I'm using the roms that I bought on the Wii U shop from nintendo 😄

[manic basin]

My wife tested Wii Sports Resort for months at Nintendo. It had sort of a PilotWiings Light in it....but was not very good.

[quasi storm]

I want a Pilotwings game like the first one, with the military aspect. They never went back to it.

[deft tree]

I would love a pilotwings in the vein of 64 that actually controlled worth a damn

[pallid falcon]

I remember that, did it come bundled with the Wiimote Plus, or whatever it was called?

[manic basin]

The Rocketeer 64 or bust...

[primal bolt]

does pilotwings 64 suck? I remember liking it

[manic basin]

Either that or the pedometer. But I think it was the WMP.

[quasi storm]

Nah, it's great! (Subjective)

[desert nest]

Still love it to this day

[desert crow]

this sounds like it might make alot more games boot

[pallid falcon]

I liked Pilotwings 64, but haven't played it in decades

[primal bolt]

yea i havent played it since the 90s

[mortal panther]

I enjoyed it... for a while. The novelty wore off pretty quickly.
...like the Wii.

[desert nest]

I've been looking forward to seeing it working in the core, so this is really awesome news. I knew immediately when I saw the map haha.

[orchid nimbus]

Actraiser

[pallid falcon]

Actraiser 64, if only (and not just platform sections)

[primal bolt]

I wanna try Shadowgate 64 cause I loved the NES one

[orchid nimbus]

3d village with horrible graphics

[worn delta]

Does your script Vampier overwrite the old .txt file if there is a new one?

[golden ocean]

I haven't been checking discord for a month now and it seems this core now run games!!

[manic basin]

I played it for a good clip on the core. It's pretty neat, actually.

[orchid nimbus]

@worn delta it does if there is a new one

[worn delta]

Nice

[quasi storm]

Wait a minute... why the heck would pilotwings even care about the memory? It doesn't even support the expansion pack.

[orchid nimbus]

@worn delta you will lose custom entries

[worn delta]

That's fine

[orchid nimbus]

just make sure your update script is up to date

[pallid falcon]

I've not played it too much, but it seems good

[orchid nimbus]

I made the script recently to include the database

[manic basin]

Maybe it tries to evaluate for a 'jumper pack not inserted' error?

[worn delta]

Ah, that may be my issue, will update the script. Thanks

[quasi storm]

Too bad the rest of the game is so-so. Then Legacy of Darkness came out, almost as if Konami said, "Yeah sorry about that. Here's a better version"

[orchid nimbus]

this part of the FAQ uses PHP to pick the latest file

[desert nest]

Re: custom entries, if anyone cares, you can just break them out into something like N64-database-addendum.txt and add a line after the copy in the script that'll cat N64-database-addendum.txt >> N64-database.txt -- works great for me.

[orchid nimbus]

same logic is used in the update json creation

[pallid falcon]

That bomb mission - I loved every second of that

[orchid nimbus]

nice solution

[golden ocean]

I tried the Update N64 script. I got all the files but opening a game gives a black screen.

Might just be like my luck with the Saturn core

[pallid falcon]

I didn't buy the apology update/sequel either

[split lynx]

oh i didnt think to check that. I just assumed the script would update itself. lol oops

[orchid nimbus]

@golden ocean do you use a HDD or USB stick?

[orchid nimbus]

nope - I never got around doing that

[quasi storm]

I remember playing Legacy, fairly recently. I ended up finishing it, it's so good! I still can't go back to the base game...

[golden ocean]

Just the micro sd card 🤔

[orchid nimbus]

then it should work

how big is your PIF file?

[golden ocean]

Oh does it work with CRT, it might be the reason?

[primal bolt]

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDXC-RescuePRO-Smartphones-Transfer/dp/B09X7CFLDF/

[fair stump]

Just wanted to point out we've been blessed with a new test build every day since the beginning of the month, we're spoiled

[primal bolt]

these puppies are only $111 now.... i spent that on my 512gb 2+ years ago

[orchid nimbus]

@golden ocean see DM

[quasi storm]

I was trying to do this for smash remix. I was going to just grab the one for smash as a template, but I got stuck. Is that first part a hash? Do I need to generate a new one for remix?

[desert nest]

Yeah it's an MD5 hash of the ROM (uncompressed of course).

I think the original entries in the database are actually hashes of the first 4K or so of the ROM, but there's some fallback logic that will take the hash of the entire ROM as well? That's how I've been doing it at least, and it works.

[quasi storm]

That's odd. I swear I tried generating an MD5 for smash base, just to compare, and figure out if that was the right algorithm, and it didn't match. Probably something I did wrong.

[vagrant ivy]

the database entries are the first 4096 bytes MD5

[short hill]

new core dropped

[vagrant ivy]

the CIC area of the rom

[quasi storm]

Holy crap!

[orchid nimbus]

update_n64 can be ran

[eternal island]

time to see if regular mario 64 with noface still crashes

because that is the easiest thing for me to test...

just gotta go afk

[daring meteor]

Will test some nonbooting games

[silent marten]

Tiggers honey hunt text is fixed

[orchid nimbus]

JOY!!!

So close 🙂

[quasi storm]

Ladies and gentlemen...

[fair stump]

@cerulean elk

[quasi storm]

Factor 5 games are booting

Oops... spoke too soon.

[eternal island]

lol.. i remember when i had my raspberry pi 4 set up, and was replacing it with mister. i had thought "well, i won't be able to do n64 or saturn on this, but the pi 4 doesn't do them all that great anyway" thinking n64 would never come

[orchid nimbus]

yes! 🙂

thanks @wanton sun 😄

[heady mason]

I had trouble getting Earthworm Jim 3D to run on the N64 core, it complains about not "being made for this system", and I tried the new PAL option and it runs 🙂

[fair stump]

Rogue squadron main menu is black but looks like you can get to gameplay?

[fair stump]

They really don't want you to skip anything in rogue squadron 😅

[daring meteor]

This didn't work before did it

[fair stump]

Nope

[daring meteor]

It has broken Sync tho for me

I wonder if Mike's changes fix it

[desert crow]

high fives all around, lets see all the new games 🙂

[fair stump]

Rogue squadron confirmed playable. Careful if you are sensitive to flashing lights, there is some nasty graphical garbage going on in it

[orchid nimbus]

Goemon (mystical ninja)

[hasty kayak]

Damn... part of the Ridge Racer 64 track is still solid black 😦

[desert nest]

OOOO the text looks niiiice

[orchid nimbus]

yeah

[quasi storm]

I guess I'm not sure how far it got before, but rogue squadron is a black screen at the main menu, battle for naboo is still a no go. Racer works (Factor 5?) Indy does not

[desert nest]

It looked like closed captions for the hearing impaired before

[fair stump]

Still freezes at gameplay

[orchid nimbus]

yup

[fair stump]

On the main menu of rogue squadron I just kept hitting start and it eventually took me to a mission

[quasi storm]

Space invaders is working

[pallid falcon]

Consider updating the testing spreadsheet if you have access. 😃

[pine apex]

Star wars racer is booting

[quasi storm]

Oh, I will. I'm just getting the hype out of my system before bed!

[hasty kayak]

F1 World Grand Prix (USA) is booting!

[fair stump]

Quake 2 now boots. I didn't try getting into gameplay if anyone else wants to try that

[quasi storm]

Expansion pack high color mode is causing some issues in that game...

[worn delta]

Harvest Moon still looking rough on the graphics front, and freezes in opening dialogue now with the mayor where before I was able to get into play and run about more before it crashed

[orchid nimbus]

weird

this uses a different mode

[fair stump]

Ah was about to check that

Harvest moon still looks bad

[quick arch]

Still hangs in game but much better 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun how many transparancy effects does the N64 have? 😄

[worn delta]

Seems wild there are so many, the dog in harvest Moon has a brown box around him

[heady mason]

Quake 1 is still black, I thought maybe it would work now Hexen had that issue fixed for it

[silent marten]

Quake 2 is black and hangs as soon as you get into the level or access the options menu

[worn delta]

Did the transparency boxes around pickups in Majoras get fixed?

[quasi storm]

Superman has red boxes around text, too...

[blissful plaza]

Thank you for your explanation.
I was curious how you solved the problem and for my own personal understanding of part of the system.

[quasi storm]

But that is far from the only problems that game has in general...

[hasty kayak]

FIFA 99 boots and is playable

[fair stump]

WWF games still white

[hot spoke]

Transparency problem in some Banjo Kazooie levels is fixed now.

[silent marten]

Rat attack now boots

[hasty kayak]

(I am updating the sheet with my findings)

[heady mason]

Ohh, Smash Bros boots. But does not get through the intro before running into issues though:

[silent marten]

South Park Rally is now booting

But it crashes at the intro let's see if it is skippable

[quasi storm]

TWINE is working!

[thorny marten]

the tranparency sprites mentioned in todays build says it affects OOT is that what made the portal out of dungeons when you beat the boss not visable?

[manic basin]

Toss that shock rat!

[quasi storm]

Until it isn't... dang

[silent marten]

This still hangs before gameplay though

[quasi storm]

I need to get myself up to date on the sheet...

[wanton sun]

hmm, what issues? smash should work fine

[quick arch]

Penny Racer is great now 🙂

[daring meteor]

I think they mean the green on the left?

[manic basin]

Do the caltrops show up now?

That was...rough when they were invisible.

[fair stump]

Oh yeah

[opal quiver]

Star Wars rogue squadron is alive

[fair stump]

No menu text 🤣

[orchid nimbus]

ChoroQ sweet

[quasi storm]

It's on life support, but it's alive...

[heady mason]

well, probably me doing stuff wrong. Its a somewhat random rom and random settings. I have not installed the auto config stuff

[fair stump]

THPS is playable

[quick arch]

yes they are visible

[manic basin]

Awesome!

[pine apex]

Excitebike 64 playable!

[quasi storm]

Holy cow... that was an intense stampede. Were you able to get out of the way?

[manic basin]

DK 64....more like Banjo Throwpooie!

[brisk drum]

Do we still need the ini crt settings from vamps website on the current build ?

[silent marten]

Duke Nukem Zero Hour is working

[daring meteor]

For anyone who's on analog out - Set config to 4mb when playing star wars

Racer

Why quake 2?

[quick arch]

Quest

[quasi storm]

64

[orchid nimbus]

Zelda OOT Transparancy issues also fixed

[quasi storm]

I tested a whole bunch of games, but not that one? What the heck is wrong with me?

[thorny marten]

is that what was making the portals out of dungeons not visible?

[cunning mantle]

Nice, Cruis'n Exotica boots now with proper resolution. Works as good as the others from the series as it seems.

[orchid nimbus]

@thorny marten no that's something else

?

[fair stump]

Yeah I saw that

[daring meteor]

Puyo puyo works

[blissful plaza]

It's Christmas in September.
We're getting spoiled.

[split lynx]

All these CRT pics. I want a CRT now. Must refuse. I dont really have the space. but I want.

[thorny marten]

oh ok just wonder i completed the first dungeon and it took a few minutes to run around and hit the portal..lol

[silent marten]

We have visuals in command and conquer 😮

[brisk drum]

Sarges heroes 2 booting up and playing

[thorny marten]

episode 1 racer works!

[daring meteor]

This is like the most terrible CRT pic haha

[brisk drum]

Let’s test blast corps

Rares most underrated tittle..

And it still hangs 😦

[topaz otter]

What about if i mentioned that you mentioned it

[quasi storm]

We have aerofighters assault!

[mild ether]

Carmageddon works!!

[fair stump]

Interesting bug where this black box covers the intro, menu, and gameplay

[mild ether]

And it works well

[brisk drum]

Body harvest is still a slide show

[remote hatch]

Hell yeah!

[silent marten]

OK let me rephrase that some graphics in command and conquer, humans are not visable

[quasi storm]

Oh, joy...