Nintendo 64

[worldly quartz]

Man when this gets close to 100% compatibility, i would regret buying an n64 and everdrive last year

[hearty oar]

Only if it ends up reporting itself with the same vid/pid, otherwise it will use a different driver/the generic joypad one

[zinc dew]

Nah they’re both really cool

[dusty tusk]

I almost got an N64 and everdrive, thank goodness I had to budget for other things 🤣

[carmine kettle]

i have the 2.4ghz version

[worldly quartz]

Maybe when robert finishes the core, he'll make me regret buying a dreamcast on 99 lol

[dusty tusk]

Really want to try densha de go's English patch

[zinc dew]

Me too!

[dusty tusk]

They even got mic support working

[worldly quartz]

Wow english voices accepted

[iron dove]

https://www.reddit.com/r/8bitdo/comments/l6qyff/8bitdo_wireless_usb_adapter_retro_receiver_psa/ looks like the receiver sends its own vid/pid with a few different modes, will grab a bluetooth dongle if I need wireless. Thanks again

[worldly quartz]

And i thought you'd be going mamonaku this station

[ocean lily]

I've actually got both since I don't think the 2.4gig version has a home button (or I just didn't want another dongle)

[carmine kettle]

mine does have the home button

its good but i like the m30 buttons better

[thorny marten]

https://tenor.com/view/unwrap-present-christmas-nintendo64-christmasmorning-gif-5631572

[dusty tusk]

Anyone try any DD to cartridge conversions yet?

[manic basin]

Just the SM64 one (above in the thread) so far. I tried Doshin with no luck. Haven't tried the Mario art conversions yet. But I grabbed them. I'll give them a look tonight.

[dusty tusk]

Not within mister distance yet, fzero still broken?

[manic basin]

I checked it on the previous core (which was the same apart from save, I believe) and no love.

[thorny marten]

I'm waiting for OOT to be playable...that's when the sh*t gets real

[zinc dew]

Is it because it’s a bad game?

[viscid nebula]

...goddammit robby

[zinc dew]

lmao

I only troll what I like

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/cartoon-killed-duck-animated-gif-10306541

[thorny marten]

I'm not even gonna dignify that with an answer

[zinc dew]

Im kidding, Ocarina of Time is amazing

[thorny marten]

Ive played it to death but there is the randomizer that ive never tried b4

[zinc dew]

that’s cool, did you also play the master quest version?

[viscid nebula]

did you play the sm64 hack in the zelda map?

[ocean lily]

Qυεsτ?

[hollow orbit]

If OOT is so great why did I sell it to buy a neGcon?

[dusty tusk]

I like Ocarina, but Majora is just so replay able for me. Scratches that checklist itch

[thorny marten]

yeah i had the gamecube disk when it originally released

dont think i ever finished it tho

[languid ore]

I still need to load up the Gamecube version but use that fancy trick on the retrotink where it downscales then upscales and adds the mask/scanline filter

I think it'd look awesome

[desert crow]

Robby might need to go to the Temple of Time-out

[thorny marten]

majoras mask brought on the feels coz it brought back the original overworld theme after it being absent from OOT

[orchid nimbus]

I never made it out of town

[carmine kettle]

majora mask saves is horrible

i just beaten it but it ws brutal

[orchid nimbus]

too much of a hasle

[carmine kettle]

indeed

[orchid nimbus]

I mean I ran around in the town for 4 hours and the moon crashed into the town

so I gave up

[atomic stratus]

really starting to regret my purchase of an N64 and Everdrive in 2015

[thorny marten]

has there been any games other than majoras mask that had the whole time loop thing in it?

[orchid nimbus]

don't be - original hardware is always worth more now than it was back then - including inflation

[atomic stratus]

That was my experience in a nutshell with that game playing it new back in the day

[desert crow]

alan wake side thing had a time loop

[atomic stratus]

@orchid nimbus nah I kid, I kid , I’m glad I’ve got original hardware for sure

[carmine kettle]

and if you mod it cost little more

[desert crow]

the worst is when you run out of time in a dungeon and have to reset time and do it again. but I still like MM.

[thorny marten]

@atomic stratusits still make your stream easier when taking request 1 less console you gotta switch over to

[atomic stratus]

precisely! Once the core is ready, I’m gonna put the N64 in storage and put Dreamcast or GC on my shelf for streaming

most likely the DC since the gdemu is fully loaded. My GC has Picoboot, but I don’t have a big enough SD card for the full library yet

[carmine kettle]

this part was horrible for me i had do it , a couples of time

[thorny marten]

i already got the full n64 library on my mister even tho it isnt all playable yet

may end up having to get a bigger SSD once i start putting saturn games on it

[carmine kettle]

probably sell my n64HD console, when the core is ready

[thorny marten]

I'll probably do like i did with ps1 and cherry pick games rather than try to get them all

[atomic stratus]

Makes sense. I made a vow to myself several years back when I rebought all my childhood consoles (and then some) that I would never let hardware go again…that said, prices keep rising on this stuff and I am not a rich man

[atomic stratus]

I did the same. Just copied the contents of my Everdrive over

[thorny marten]

I just dont have room for all those consoles..and honestly i dont feel the need to own them all i just want to play the games.

mister comes pretty close to real hardware or atleast close enough for me.

[obsidian cosmos]

NSO controller vs Brawler 64 go

they cost about the same, which one should I grab

[frail jolt]

I bought every console I could find when I got a real job....now with the mister, as cores comes out...if I didn't own the console as a kid...

I sell the console and the mod(ode everdrive whatever) and just keep the controllers

[iron dove]

I reckon the NSO, but I've always liked the trident design

[frail jolt]

It has reduced cluttered and I have made money owning a mister

[orchid nimbus]

I'm dead for today

laterz

enters coffin

slams lid

YEAOUCH!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip56srPPq0I

[ocean lily]

NSO wins on nostalgia, so it wins

[craggy ginkgo]

i've noticed the analogue stick is too sensitive when playing games like Cruis'n USA. i'm assuming we need some sort of scaling or mapping to be done. i assume that's just something to worry about once the core gets more mature?

i also noticed that audio in Mario Kart 64 PAL is off and clicky. again i assume that's a known thing and to be dealt with later on?

[obsidian cosmos]

Yeah there are posts up chat about stick sensitivity

Guess NSO makes sense. If I get the brawler might as well just use a normal controller

[ocean lily]

the core is still deep in alpha territory, bug fixes will come

not everything is finished, much less accurate yet

[tropic ferry]

how do I make a game launch...?

[trim seal]

https://vampier.net/N64/

[ocean lily]

sounds like you're probably missing the PIF ROM

[craggy ginkgo]

if it wasn't for the controller problems, i'd happily play Cruis'n USA until the next build arrives. That game plays almost perfect

[zenith orchid]

Oh wow! Puyo Puyo Sun 64 goes in game! And it looks immaculate for me so far

[wanton sun]

for NES and Gameboy i was only able to do because the cores were already 90% prepared for Pause functionality. For NES i also got massive help from Kitrinx and GreyRogue as i had no ideas how the system works. Also they had space in the FPGA free for it. SNES has less space free, is not prepared for pause, is more complex and i know nothing about it. So i will not touch it. sorry

[wanton sun]

didn't know that the PAL version even boots up. PAL timing isn't implemented so anything can happen

[zenith orchid]

For save states to work in SNES it would have to be really hacky. Either the core would need to be developed in an inauthentic way, or you do something similar to the FX PAK PRO, which is also hacky.

[wanton sun]

yes that could work

[vapid hawk]

good morning !

[zenith orchid]

Good morning to all of you in Europe!

[zenith orchid]

Hey Robert is MK64 basically done now? or is texture filtering and AA part of the criteria?

[fair stump]

I've heard of cases where the save states for that don't quite work even

[zenith orchid]

Yeah it's pretty hit or miss. Last I remember, loading a state could screw up the music in some games

[craggy ginkgo]

you know i just realised i have a USA PIF. or is none of this relevant because it's a totally untested scenario at this stage?

[wanton sun]

I will likely not implement AA for a longer time as that is part of the VI, not RDP. But texture filtering is next on the list and would really help with some textures in this game

[last scarab]

@graceful radish Can I PM you?

[zenith orchid]

Are you considering including various texture filtering options? Perhaps some that are not as extreme as the original N64?

[wanton sun]

PAL video timing is missing, so you run PAL games with 60hz instead of 50. This can easily screw up the audio output rate. The PIF is not relevant for the issue i assume

[vapid hawk]

oh i had a shower thought this morning, its probably silly but i'm curious - could you get the scaler we already have to do some of the VI's tasks ? they have some commonality i think?

[wanton sun]

probably yes, but it would have to be modified a lot and then you don't get AA and dedither on analog out

[vapid hawk]

hmm, maybe some special case of vga-scaler could drive the analog out?

[wanton sun]

if we had no analog out on mister, only HDMI, it would absolutly make sense to have a modified scaler for n64 that does the VI tasks

[vapid hawk]

the scaler can drive the analog out in vga-scaler mode though

[last scarab]

texture filtering is next on the list
Do patreons get a peek at this feature in a test build first when its available?

[wanton sun]

but honestly, the scaler is so complex these days, it would be a big task to add even the N64 video out registers and fetch data from the correct positions

[vapid hawk]

there's no patreon exclusive builds terrorwrist

it'll just be on here

[last scarab]

oh ok

[wanton sun]

Patreons will get an article on how it works. That's how i usually do things...

[vapid hawk]

thats interesting about the scaler - thanks

[quaint rune]

What will texture filtering fix in layman’s terms? Things like the wireframe appearing on textures ?

[zenith orchid]

patrons get the relatively more stable builds. but we usually get builds before patrons just because we are generally more eager to test.

[vapid hawk]

if you fire up the PSX core and toggle the bilinear filtering on and off you'll get a rough idea

[quaint rune]

Ooooh I get you now

[tropic ferry]

So is my VGA out working rn just a fluke? I didn't change any of the settings that the website said to do

[lilac scroll]

I have a 2TB SSD, it’s lovely to have the overhead.

[wanton sun]

it's difficult with so many people to find the right solution, but as having fast feedback on a change helps the development process massive, i think everyone profits from that. If people think that it's not worth to join the patreon because there is no paywall, i can live with that 🙂

[vapid hawk]

this is perfect for me because i do patreon so people can make cool things, not to get access to stuff

[lilac scroll]

I’ve meant to do the patreon for a while now (out of appreciation for this amazing work) I just have to remember to do a full year or something and then unsub. I hate subscriptions and I know I’ve let a few run too long

[zenith orchid]

I do enjoy the articles though. they are written in a way that is easy to understand

[vapid hawk]

the articles are a great bonus too

[zenith orchid]

very educational

[last scarab]

I agree with all the above

[zenith orchid]

it helps a lot in discussing the issues that we run into

[vapid hawk]

also having the code-in-progress published lets people help out in small ways

i think probably 5-10 deveopers contributed various bits to PSX along the way?

[zenith orchid]

yep

[last scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-agree-concur-smile-zoom-gif-5790739

[last scarab]

this might help to understand https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Texture_filtering

[vapid hawk]

this is maybe even faster to understand

we'd be going from the top left example to the bottom left example, ish

[quasi storm]

And then N64 had its very own brand of texture filtering. Tri point bilinear.

Some games actually took advantage of the way the filtering worked.

Normal bilinear

Tri point...

[zenith orchid]

Fascinating

[quasi storm]

Funnily enough, this is only a fairly recent development in the emulation scene.

[manic basin]

This is probably not useful to most, but I got the little endian bit working, so this app will hash and return the CIC (it defaults to 6102 if no protection is found or it's unknown). It works for everything so far apart from DD conversions, those still don't detect with the MD5 hash. But it's been helpful in adding demo hashes to the database txt file for me.

Note, this is NOT code signed, so run at your own risk. I can't afford a cert.

.net 6.0

[lilac scroll]

Huge difference on the stairs

[uncut gyro]

Has anyone tried Portal 64 yet?

[manic basin]

Yeah, no boot

But I did play a bunch of it on Simple64 to make sure my patch took and it's ... pretty damned amazing.

[quaint rune]

Thank you kindly for the read. I will check this out now.

[manic basin]

Whoops. Had an errant file position pointer. Here's the correct zip.

[thick terrace]

I set my video processing to the PVM preset and some of these games magically look way better. Scan lines make me happy. Dunno why.

[mystic galleon]

The save states to sdcard does not work for me, often crashes when I save or black screen when I try to load. Why am I an idiot?

[thick terrace]

I'm playing on a 43" screen 18 inches away though. I have a 28" crt ready when all the cores support it. Currently my n64, nes, ps1, ps2, saturn, dreamcast, and genesis/cd/32x are connected to it

[iron dove]

It's not you 🙂
saving state within the core isnt supported, the options are there to allow you to load a state (eg robert shared one for the N64 controller test, that he created in his software emulator)

[mystic galleon]

Ahhh, awwww I really wanna progress on these games, that would have been great. Thanks!

[young nebula]

When I rename the old zImage_dtb.bin and send the updated file for the NSO N64 controller my mister doesn't boot. Surely I'm missing something.

[thorn flax]

no mipmaps aka the Shenmue look

[hearty oar]

How are you transferring it?

[iron dove]

As of the latest release (N64_20230901.rbf), games with eeprom type cart-based save can save normally (not savestates tho)

[zenith orchid]

I remember as a kid, wondering why some games needed a memory pak to save games, but Super Mario 64 didn't.

It made sense with the PSX, that you can't store saves on a CD

[solemn maple]

Can games transfer eeprom saves to the memory pak? I'd like to back up my mario 64 save that I have on the original cartridge

[wanton sun]

don't know any example where this would work

[cedar otter]

https://github.com/sanni/cartreader

Probably the lowest cost way to do it now

[wanton sun]

one example why texture filtering is great

[cedar otter]

Nice!

[remote hatch]

Yeah ♥️

Looks much better

[cedar otter]

I'm sad I'm not as available to test as for the PSX days, but this stuff is always nice to see

[lament escarp]

Yeah I see another test build coming...

[wanton sun]

sure, it gets blurry when the textures have bad resolution, but i still prefer it any time 🙂

[remote hatch]

for me it's the charm of the N64 just like the dithering in the psx

[solemn maple]

Looks so good, Robert! 😍

[oblique remnant]

AA was huge back then 🙂 Now Id like kinda have an option to toggle it on/off. Quake even had this Filter Option in the Menu. Can't think of another game that did that

[thick terrace]

WoW!

[inner bronze]

I keep waking up to amazing shit

Now this is how I remember the games

[cedar otter]

I misread that...

[inner bronze]

Understandable

[silent marten]

Morning all

[quaint rune]

The comparison shots look great. Nice soft blend

[quasi storm]

Heck yeah! 3 Point filtering FTW!

[quasi storm]

Turok had it as a cheat. I think they even called it "Quack mode"

[lean spruce]

I really think Nintendo did the right thing with the filtering on N64. We might bash it now for the Vaseline effect, but back then my jaw hit the floor when I first saw N64 games. I agree with Kuba that it’s part of the N64 charm and identity

[vapid moat]

I feel like the "Vaseline" effect only got more criticized as the console started to be played on TVs beyond what it was made for back then (LCDs as opposed to CRTs)

[daring meteor]

Robert really wanted to play MK64 this weekend I see, hahahaha

[vapid hawk]

pop-in was the hot topic before as well

having hardware fogging was a big deal

[raw oriole]

Turok, Fog Hunter

[weary beacon]

Has anyone managed to get this adapter to work or know if it works?

[vapid hawk]

i've seen them on ebay but decided to wait for reflex to come out instead 😄

[hollow rune]

Will the trilinear filtering help with the blue seams in some games like on Mario Kart 64 on the track when driving into the tunnel on Luigi Raceway?

Also there seems to be seams on the asteroids in StarFox 64

[silent marten]

Maybe but I assume this is something else

[oblique remnant]

I bet that the Luigi Raceway Tunnel will get fixed with this!

[trim seal]

@wanton sun is this normal for Paper Mario?

Or is it just an updated way of showing errors?

[daring meteor]

Paper Mario has its way of showing errors

[trim seal]

Amazing.

I imagine that might come in handy for debugging. I'd never seen it before.

[hollow rune]

I remember finding this a few builds ago. I was surprised

[daring meteor]

Until you see builds mentioning TLB, this will occur

[trim seal]

Well yes, that makes sense - just my first time seeing it. Didn't know it was a thing.

I just love discovering new things. Every day is a school day 🙂

[dreamy ridge]

very interesting! thanks for the detailed explanation 😁

[hollow rune]

Everytime I look up TLB on the internet hoping I'll understand it, I do not

[lean spruce]

Virtual memory something something

[hollow rune]

Basically

[vagrant ivy]

Translation Lookaside Buffer

Its a cache of virtual memory addresses to real memory addresses

the CPU then doesnt have to look them up

When the CPU wants to access Memory it checks the TLB, if its there it uses that or adds it to the cache if not

so if you get multiple requests for the same memory you speed things up

[daring meteor]

Understanding what a TLB is, is understanding what virtual memory is

[vagrant ivy]

Virtual memory is just a technique to provide an illusion of more and contiguous memory space

[worldly quartz]

Just by description alone, it sounds annoying to implement and debug in terms of firmware

Reminds me that fpga devs use DV to help check asic level stuff

[hollow rune]

So like a bunch of frequently called phone numbers you have saved that you don't have to go hunting for.

[vagrant ivy]

the processor has to use real memory addresses, but the memory is stored as a virtual table

[compact lark]

N64 has dithering too albeit its blurred out thanks to the VI (I think)

[vagrant ivy]

so the TLB providesd a lookup between real and virtual

if the memory address is in the TLB the processor doesnt have to waste time doing the lookup

and so its faster to access memory

and yes your phone number analogy is correct

[hollow rune]

I guess then for more complicated feats like the Mario face you can pull, you can pull it off since you can add a lot of what you need to the TLB and you save on performance

[daring meteor]

I think its mostly a development question wherever to use virtual memory or not

On the N64 at least

[vagrant ivy]

The TLB cache is filled by the N64 CPU.

but I am not a N64 expert just read the tech docs

[hollow rune]

Why then would a game not use it, like in the case of Crusin' or Chameleon Twist?

[vagrant ivy]

Couldnt answer that

[daring meteor]

Because the TLB only is useful when you use Virtual memory

On a System like the N64, you don't have to use virtual memory at all

[hollow rune]

I think I have a better grasp on this.

[daring meteor]

Well technically you do but you can use a Direct Map

[vagrant ivy]

Just think of it like your preprogrammed phone numbers analogy

it speeds access is basically what it does

https://www.copetti.org/writings/consoles/nintendo-64/

is a very detailed guide to the N64 architecture

well detailed for me but probably hopelessly simple for Robert

[vapid hawk]

afaik TLB is more of a convenience feature for developers so they don't have to really worry about the specifics of memory addressing

i don't think it makes anything faster

[vagrant ivy]

it does if you are using virtual memory

since you dont need to waste the time doing the virtual to real lookup

[inner bronze]

But yeah, on a single executable machine like an N64 you dont need virtual memory. It can make some stuff easier to code tho.

[vagrant ivy]

I guess the SM64 programmers just wanted to play with the new system

so used it to see what it can do

[hearty python]

But I can’t understand why it is used for the face 😂

[vagrant ivy]

It was probably just a lets see what this can do moment

[inner bronze]

^

Maybe they did design for multiple player models at some point

And they used virtual memory as a weird way to point to a different model

[tropic sand]

Tlb in code... https://gist.github.com/parasyte/6547020

[hearty python]

Roberts Software emulation has TLB already, so I don’t worry about it. 😁

[topaz otter]

no, it was pretty smeary on a 100" rear projection tv in the mid 90s

also I had a 15" emerson and we played it over catv, it was still pretty blurry there too

in fact the sharpest I ever saw the N64 was on the 30" sears tv my parents had, it was an 80s tv but the crt was flat

it only had yellow video but the tube was so good it was almost as good as svideo

I have never seen a tube tv with a picture as good as that one

[hearty python]

The old days the manufacturer looks more of the costs as of the picture output quality. They made so nice systems but do include cost reduced cable or outputs. It a shame looking back.

[topaz otter]

well, svhs came later in the 90s

nes games on the sears tv looked absolutely fantastic

I played goldeneye on it for many years and wired up poor mans surround sound with some spare speaker on the living room

[hearty python]

RGB Scart was well established in Europe, but they do cheap coax or composit via chinch.

[drowsy lantern]

Yup, sorry @cerulean elk, but I’m team texture filtering all-day everyday! 😂

[wanton sun]

i think it was a different bug. I fixed some color combiner overflows today and it seems those blue lines are gone

(even with filtering off)

[remote hatch]

I've tested a lot of Wave Race and it's stable only on the cache delay set to 11 🙂

in my case ofc

1,5 hours of playing without any problems 🙂

[hearty python]

What is default cache delay?

[wanton sun]

new testbuild with filtering is uploaded. It's on by default, but there is toggle in OSD

[wanton sun]

0

[silent marten]

Thank you Robert 🙂

[remote hatch]

the difference with filtering is amazing !

[native mesa]

Let's see this! I'm so hungover but must test

[lilac scroll]

Omfg I swear every day I pop in here and Robert’s like “ok this thing that everyone thought would be done in January got done overnight”

[native mesa]

Oktoberfest last night

[mellow path]

I've been away from my home/MiSTer for a week, can't wait to see how much has changed.

[hearty python]

Is the filtering make a difference in mk64?

[silent marten]

So Mario Kart 64 is fully working with all features now except ghost saving which requires controller pak right?

[daring meteor]

Lmao, legit

[native mesa]

I haven't gotten in to test but I assume dithering and AA aren't implemented yet

[silent marten]

Ahhhh ok

[daring meteor]

Probably some graphical glitches that you probably don't care much about

[fair stump]

Love the smell of a new test build in the morning

[lilac scroll]

Someone who isn’t reading all this from in bed at 4:45am local time please share a screenshot

[native mesa]

I will soon but it will be a photo of my television

[fair stump]

Gottem

[trim seal]

Texture filtering. Just sitting flicking it on and off and on and off while a game is running is....oddly compelling fun.

[cerulean elk]

Noooo

[native mesa]

Perfect

[hollow pebble]

Texture filtering?! Now it’s truly

[native mesa]

Honestly this is how Ill play most games

[hollow pebble]

What will you do now @cerulean elk?

[cerulean elk]

Lol another video obviously

[hollow pebble]

Hahah

[cerulean elk]

I’ve got 12 hours today with nothing planned so

[plucky nymph]

Can someone help me? I can’t download the latest core from the Pinned msg (Robby’s) cos it says “no access”

[mortal panther]

The audio in this newest test build seems much louder to me than previous ones... to the point of static/distortion in many places.

[hollow pebble]

#test-builds

[wanton sun]

go to "channels & roles" channel and configure yourself 🙂

[native mesa]

New error codes?

[wanton sun]

not today

[native mesa]

I see an extra numeral

[silent marten]

Filter off

[wanton sun]

old stuff, that was already in the build from yesterday 😅

[silent marten]

filter on

[native mesa]

oh haha

[mortal panther]

Has the audio volume been increased?

[wanton sun]

no

[plucky nymph]

Thanks Robert that fixed it

[mortal panther]

Hmm...

[daring meteor]

Did originally MK64 had Dithering?

[native mesa]

Everything had dithering

[mild ether]

Vivid Dolls?

[native mesa]

Well everything with polygons lol

[weary palm]

https://youtu.be/plh9OGel-lM?si=OdVk2vEk71VnJb-3

[daring meteor]

I wanted to say it looks perfect but some courses look like they would benefit significantly from that

[native mesa]

Should texture filtering be getting applied to character portraits in Mario Kart 64?

[dreamy ridge]

wow! i totally forgot about this game, i played the shit out of that in 1998. dash rendar!

[cerulean elk]

At least I woke up to texture filtering and didn’t edit a viewer request / saving video for it to appear this afternoon lol

[wanton sun]

the game will set up every draw command to either use it or not, the RDP in the core just follows the rules

[native mesa]

I thought so, just looks odd now maybe i got too used to no filtering, but it is an odd design choice for them to filter those

[wanton sun]

depends. Sometimes there is only 1 asset and they present it scaled to different size

[pallid falcon]

Awesome, thank you Robert. I was waiting to see if there was a new core today before doing some more testing.

[fair stump]

This looks much better filtered

[hearty python]

Fuzz pictures make it good visible. On others you had to look twice 😁

[lilac scroll]

Is the darker edge at the top of that logo new?

This is def the look for this core, I get that some folks like chunky pixels but it doesn’t feel like n64 without a healthy glob of Vaseline over the screen

[fair stump]

I'm only seeing that when texture filter is on

It goes away when I turn it off

[lilac scroll]

Maybe it needs AA

[wanton sun]

there might still be bugs. i only tried it with some games so far

[native mesa]

Red shell has a black border too

[daring meteor]

Oh hey you added the thing where core reload doesn't open game

[wanton sun]

no

not yet

[daring meteor]

Weird

[hearty python]

Ninja picture look as it doing AA already. Smooth edges

[wanton sun]

when you reload the core and the game stays in ram, there is no sdram refresh. Maybe it still works, maybe it does not and maybe you get strange bugs 🤡

[daring meteor]

I though Diddy kong not having sound was a refresh thing but I guess not

[wanton sun]

more likely a rsp bug

[native mesa]

I'm going to have to start comparing with real hardware

[daring meteor]

RSP has the strangest bugs

[fair stump]

Yeah, I'm seeing that across the board. Mario party 2d elements have that happen

[wanton sun]

you cannot really compare to real hardware as long as AA, dithering and dedither is missing

[vapid moat]

Maaan, you're working insanely fast with this one @wanton sun

[native mesa]

Dithering no but there are AA disable patches

And dedither

[daring meteor]

I mean you can compare to real hardware, you'll just discover these 3 (or 2) are missing

[marble cargo]

Man does the texture filtering really make a difference. The amount of noise produced by the lack of filtering was bugging me.

[hearty python]

Are that the last missing effects and then only more rendermodes needed?

[silent marten]

This, the rest of the saving modes and TLB

[native mesa]

In my screeshot it appears that black border is only when its shown over that reflective surface

[native mesa]

over that wireframe type textrue

[daring meteor]

There's LOD, Blending

[lean spruce]

SM64 should we play without data chache? It crashes with it on first level

[fair stump]

Banjo looks much better with the filtering

[solemn maple]

I prefer filtered but some things really take a hit 😁

[remote hatch]

set delay to 10

[native mesa]

You'd benefit from the modeline for most games

[solemn maple]

When I tried your modeline all games got squished too much horizontally

Mario kart included

[native mesa]

Hmm well you could adjust the horizontal front porch and horizontal back porch

video_mode=hact,hfp,hs,hbp,vact,vfp,vs,vbp,fpix

hfp and hbp

[marble cargo]

On a minor note, I noticed Puyo Puyo Sun 64 gets slightly farther into the intro than before.

Still not playable, but any progress is still appreciated.

[native mesa]

those determine how far from the left and right of the screen the image starts and ends

[solemn maple]

Thanks, I will play around with the settings when I have some spare time

[native mesa]

Do you have a way to do 240p test suite from a different system though. I'm curious the geometry on your TV

[solemn maple]

Snes core at 256x224

[hearty python]

Looks a bit to much stretched

[native mesa]

Here's how it looks for me

[solemn maple]

Last time I adjusted it I set it to show the full image of some arcade game. Not trying to have the perfect geometry there 😊

[drowsy lantern]

Mario Kart is looking so damn near perfect now! Missing AA, fog, also some texture modes (penguins don’t have eyes in sherbet land), and you can see polygon wireframes where there’s transparencies. But we so damn close! 😍👌🏻

[native mesa]

It is a balancing act for sure

[lean spruce]

Mega Man 64 crashes on save

[silent marten]

Is this an eeprom saving game?

[young nebula]

Ftp. I'm gonna pull the card and do it directly later.

[lean spruce]

how can I check? @silent marten

[daring meteor]

That is a Flash saving game

[lean spruce]

ok, then

[daring meteor]

As the Flash isn't emulated this is no surprise

[silent marten]

http://micro-64.com/database/gamesave.shtml this was posted here yesterday 🙂

[lean spruce]

thanks

[daring meteor]

This list is more complete I think

[lilac scroll]

I’m fascinated at how early games were fully playable. Every week (or day really) Robert seems to add a key HW feature and they all just sort of layer on like a veneer or coat of paint. I would’ve thought more games would just flat out not run without some stuff (not referring to filtering mind you) but so many things seem playable now and have for a while

[daring meteor]

Quite fun just to see it hahaha

[fair stump]

Last I checked the compatibility list, the number of games that just won't boot is less than 30%. That's really impressive to me

[hearty python]

Yea, n64 seems to be a really forgiving system. Many games just starts.

Also surprised that Audio works so good

[cerulean elk]

Yea audio has worked relatively well since the “early days”…which was what? Early July? lol

[native mesa]

For us yeah

[lament escarp]

Especially if you take tlb dependent games into account.

[viscid nebula]

robert has no chill

[hearty python]

Doing the core is chilling for Robert 😂

[viscid nebula]

🤣

Time to meditate update the n64 core

[bronze tree]

new filter looks great 🙂

[cerulean elk]

“Imma just work for ten more minutes…” “hey everyone here’s texture filtering”

[hearty python]

It must be a great feeling for a dev, when the work went so well. Really unbelievable 😁

[ocean lily]

that's pretty much the standard nintendo game exception handler/crash screen - not the core's

[viscid nebula]

at this rate we'll be manipulating mario's face in like negative 6 weeks

[native mesa]

As soon as goldeneye and the Zeldas are playable this place gon be wild

[zinc dew]

Test build pin updated

[paper orchid]

Oh man, small parts of S&P are playable now

[vapid hawk]

is flash save support far off? I have a suspicion thats why re2 can't start

[compact depot]

https://tenor.com/view/hellraiser-pinhead-what-coolstorybro-head-gif-4593768

[cerulean elk]

Pin and Punishment?

[paper orchid]

You have to push start to skip cutscenes but so far I can get a little bit into 2-3, 3-1, and 3-2

[cerulean elk]

I will try in an hour or so

1-1 kinda works sometimes but not really

[paper orchid]

Note when I say "get a little bit into it"

[elfin relic]

1-1 works for some seconds

[paper orchid]

I really mean "a little"

[inner isle]

Do you need anything fancy to run this core? Games load and then I get a black screen.

[zinc dew]

What game?

[paper orchid]

Yeah, the intro stage runs for a decent amount, 1-1 (not in the dream world) runs for a few seconds, 1-2 for a few seconds

The chapter 3 cutscene actually goes a fair bit further than I expected

[zinc dew]

Core is in active development so don’t expect things to work outside of the talked about games here.

[inner isle]

Wave Race and top gear rally so far

[remote hatch]

https://vampier.net/N64/ - read before use it

[ocean lily]

sounds like you're missing the PIF ROM

[paper orchid]

1-3 lasts long enough for Kachua to smack me because I'm trying to play using a controller that isn't the N64 one lmao

[zinc dew]

Check the pins, there’s a link to the FAQ you should follow

[elfin relic]

reading vamp's faq is what is needed to run the core

[dreamy ridge]

lol does anyone remember the rap mixtape website from the early-to-mid 2000's DatPif

[orchid nimbus]

update_N64 can be run

going bed to back - stop pinging me

[orchid nimbus]

😛

[ocean lily]

@wanton sun I wonder if a "missing PIF ROM" message or something could be added

[paper orchid]

Chapter 2 cutscene goes right up until Brad's closeup, 2-1 crashes, 2-2 crashes after less than a second

[dreamy ridge]

holy SMOKES what a difference!!!

[paper orchid]

Still crazy to see this running at all

[vagrant ivy]

Have you got to sleep yet ?

[dreamy ridge]

ping

[zinc dew]

N64 with texture filtering is the only way

[cerulean elk]

ooooo

[zinc dew]

turning it off is a

[native mesa]

Ah yes the iconic 3 point filtering

[vagrant ivy]

You can do that by smearing vaseline across the screen with earlier builds Although it does make watching films tough !

[zinc dew]

I already sort of did that with filters lol

[dreamy ridge]

looks like in bomberman they just filter all textures, they should have tagged those magenta squares to not filter cause they look sharper

[native mesa]

We aren't quite at Vaseline levels yet

[orchid nimbus]

good

[dreamy ridge]

we need to filter HARDER

[cerulean elk]

get this PSP video out, coffee and then do some captures

[zinc dew]

I thought you weren’t working this weekend

[cerulean elk]

I got my wifes days off wrong. Monday/tuesday. I thought it was Sunday/Monday

also I lie to myself a lot @zinc dew

"I am not doing videos today"...shiny new thing arrives..."sigh"

[zinc dew]

Just looking out, brother

[cerulean elk]

wife works from 8 to 8 today. Its either MiSTer or I organize my studio

which would YOU choose lol

[zinc dew]

Organize studio

[cerulean elk]

well I can probably do both

OR I could capture N64, edit and VO....then go to the beach and swim

[zinc dew]

Damn I miss the beach, that sounds awesome

[vagrant ivy]

Chicago doesnt have Beaches !

[cerulean elk]

Thankfully its very close to our joint

[vagrant ivy]

its just a lake side

[cerulean elk]

we have the best beaches around. Beats most coastal cities

and better hot dogs too

[zinc dew]

probably better fish n chips too if we’re being honest

[cerulean elk]

good luck finding those gluten free

spontaneous eating is a pain in the ass now

[eternal island]

and another update. geez

[cerulean elk]

at least he did it in the AM before I captured lol

[inner isle]

Is it only working on unstable builds of mister?

[eternal island]

gonna wake up tomorrow... "so yeah guys i just finished the core, turns out it was done 3 months ago. forgot i finished it"

[compact depot]

Robert please stop with the frequent updates as this is upsetting the users. Thanks for your understanding! 😌

[zinc dew]

Oh my gosh everything looks so much better

[compact depot]

Can I be a mod now? 🙏

[cerulean elk]

someone in Germany go take Robert out for a lot of drinks and help him relax

[zinc dew]

The filtering was a huge massive visual improvement

[native mesa]

Subjective 🙂

[zinc dew]

that’s one demerit

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew doesnt even know how to spell downgrade

[elfin relic]

robby doesn't know how to spell

[zinc dew]

One demerit!

[elfin relic]

this is all TTS

[eternal island]

ive has it off with the everdrive a bunch. a few games i REALLY prefer with filtering off, but most look funky without it

[cerulean elk]

I wont stop till I get 68 more!

[eternal island]

paper mario i think was one of the ones i preferred without

[zinc dew]

one demerit!!!

[cerulean elk]

Robby for Hall Monitor 2023

[eternal island]

once its stable, give it a go

might surprise ya

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/im-on-patrol-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-hall-monitor-security-guard-gif-17867174

[zinc dew]

pins updated, one demerit, quest 64

[native mesa]

Well the best part is we will have options so people can be wrong to their hearts content

[zinc dew]

The holy trifecta

[zinc dew]

Im kidding

[little moon]

I'm having issues getting Mario 64 to work. I downloaded the patch from Vampires site and applied it to the rom in the htgdb pack using Lunar IPS but it just hangs even with the patch

[zinc dew]

I don’t care what other people do, what they do with their mister is none of my business

[little moon]

anything else that needs to be done in order to get it to work?

[zinc dew]

@little moon you probably applied the wrong patch

[eternal island]

i found the more 2dish the game was(paper mario wasnt, but had that sort of look to it) the more i preferred the texture filtering off

[zinc dew]

Make sure it’s for the right rom type

[eternal island]

and things like oot and mm i preferred it on

[zinc dew]

@little moon also make sure you have that pif rom

[inner isle]

this thread is fast. Sorry do you need an unstable mister build?

[little moon]

I appy this one "Super Mario 64 (USA) (LodgeNet) no face.ips"

[daring meteor]

If your rom isn't z64

[zinc dew]

Is your rom the LodgeNet version?

[cerulean elk]

coffee time

[little moon]

oh, probably not

so probably the wrong patch 🙂

[zinc dew]

No problem, an easy mistake to make. I did it myself. 🍻

[native mesa]

Yeah lodgnet was the version for hotels and ran on a server

[little moon]

so, the eu version is the one to go with?

[zinc dew]

There’s a U.S. version, it’s at the bottom of the next table

[inner isle]

All are .z64. I think I have the wrong pif file

[daring meteor]

What's the size of your pif file

[inner isle]

i had 2 lol

[native mesa]

All doors unlocked noface USA

[inner isle]

I dont even know what its supposed to look like

[daring meteor]

What's the size of it

There are 2 Valid sizes

[orchid nimbus]

this happened in a month:

[daring meteor]

May September be as good as August :3

[orchid nimbus]

I missed the 'behind the scene' changes - I wanted to keep this high level

[inner isle]

128bytes

[daring meteor]

That's not the right size

[vagrant ivy]

1984 bytes is the correct size

[daring meteor]

It's either 2048 bytes or 1984 bytes

[vagrant ivy]

if only there was a Faq with a section with a click here to google

I wonder where that could be

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/

@inner isle look for 'rename' on that page

it's a link

[cerulean elk]

DEMERIT

[weary palm]

Is this the infamous "three-point" filtering?

[daring meteor]

∴

[orchid nimbus]

128bit blast processing mip map interpolation filtering with added quantum dots

[weary palm]

Wow

Sounds mips:y as hell

[orchid nimbus]

how the heck do you run this game?

[safe robin]

Mario kart 4 crashed the first time for me after a cup.

[vagrant ivy]

you need the unstable mister

[fair stump]

Only the main menu and intro work for me, it crashes when you try to get past that

[quasi storm]

I'm getting 90's TV ad vibes from the angle of this screenshot 😆

[native mesa]

I have to angle to camera or you'll see flicker

[quasi storm]

Hey, I'm not complaining.

[zinc dew]

“Famous and wonderful” three point filtering

[inner isle]

I'm still getting a black screen after the game tries to load. I have the correct pif now and renamed it to boot.rom. Anything else I might have missed?

[vagrant ivy]

which game

[inner isle]

Any

Wave race

cruisn world

[vagrant ivy]

Run Vampiers update script

from his Faq

that will set up the thing correctly

other than the Bios

Also if you are using filezilla to transfer files make sure its set to Binary Tarnsfer

and not auto

[quasi storm]

I think Robert needs to make the core a little LESS accurate. Star Wolf are still bastards in Venom...

Also, it's really neat how the three point filtering is used for certain effects. In solar, the firey background actually looks the part. With filtering off it's just a mess of pixels.

[inner isle]

what will the binary transfer setting break? It was on auto, so changed that now.

[vagrant ivy]

if its on Auto it probably sent the bios as a txt file

[viscid nebula]

holy fuckin hell

no wonder it felt so fast

it literally was

we blinked and games not only run, but full speed

[wanton sun]

something with your screen is wrong, every other line is black 😛

[vagrant ivy]

Always Always use Binary Transfer if using Filezilla, beter to use WinSCP which doesnt have the issue

[inner isle]

file type is listed as rom

[vagrant ivy]

yes but it wont be sent properly on Auto

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun congrats you went from a just basic running Mario Kart 64 to a perfect game in 1 month

[inner isle]

ill resend

[vagrant ivy]

Filezilla is crap. Use Win SCP !

[wanton sun]

in theory yes, but then this would better happen in main and also compare the size and checksum

[viscid nebula]

fights the urge to say Azum

[vagrant ivy]

His name is FPGA makes Fun when translated

[orchid nimbus]

For Fun

[wanton sun]

thanks. It's not perfect yet but we already had a lot of fun. 8 cups completed now 🙂

[viscid nebula]

so A makes

azum

thats accurate, he does

[bronze tree]

@cerulean elk how do you get California Speed to run? For me it hangs already after a few seconds with E0100 "RSP instruction not implemented"

[cerulean elk]

Andy D grabbed that one. He beat start like it owed him money

[orchid nimbus]

FGPA Macht Spass would be what you wrote @vagrant ivy

[viscid nebula]

😮

[vagrant ivy]

yes sorry my German is rusty !

[bronze tree]

thanks, that worked 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

well it's pretty darn impressive

[quasi storm]

Humble as ever!

[bronze tree]

what's the next thing that annoys you most, the fog issues? 🙂

[wanton sun]

maybe banjo white lines (sorry wrong reply)

[cerulean elk]

Eh?

[wanton sun]

this chat is too fast to click the right button...

[quasi storm]

You know, the texture wrap around bug (?)

[dreamy ridge]

rare must have used the same techniques in diddy kong racing too...those are the only games i see those white lines in

[cerulean elk]

I know. Not sure what it’s in context to

[vagrant ivy]

Gifs are not appreciated when Robert is present please remove them

[viscid nebula]

done

[wanton sun]

it was a reply to markun, but it scrolled away too fast

[quasi storm]

Someone asked him what annoys him enough to fix next.

[cerulean elk]

Ooooooo

[viscid nebula]

I'll wait for later when robert is asleep

XD

[cerulean elk]

The chat scrolls too damn quick for me to keep up lol

[viscid nebula]

oh no robby is here

fun police

[quasi storm]

It must take you FOREVER to proofread your scripts...

[cerulean elk]

Lol like I write scripts 🤣

[zinc dew]

Just wanted to say thank you for doing that. It’s considerate of you. I’m sorry that we’re a little stringent on gif use but it’s only on the topic-specific channels. It’s to minimize distractions for new users and conversations.

[viscid nebula]

[cerulean elk]

@quasi storm it’s edit and then start talking. Usually sometime useable comes out in the end

[quasi storm]

Rapid fire VO. Nice!

[cerulean elk]

Sometimes. Lots of outtakes that are me mangling something and then saying to myself into the mic “what in the shit did you just say”

[quasi storm]

Do you start over, or just cut it up?

[cerulean elk]

Depends where I am

I’d say a 15 minute video is five takes. after minute 4 I stop to relax a sec

[inner isle]

does that script need to be named specifically?

[vagrant ivy]

WinScp isn a program not a script

[native mesa]

Putty

[inner isle]

the auto script

[dreamy ridge]

scp from command line like a real haxxor

[quasi storm]

@wanton sun do the white textures in banjo kazooie relate at all to the corrupted interface textures in games like Dr Mario and Turok?

[orchid nimbus]

username root / passwrd 1

[wanton sun]

i don't know...i usually don't know most reasons before i look at it. It always surprising to see where things come from

[vagrant ivy]

update_n64.sh

[wanton sun]

e.g. i would not have thought that the blue lines in mario kart first track tunnel are gouroud shading overflow. I always thought it's rasterizer being 1 pixel off

[quasi storm]

Fair enough. Just curious.

[quasi storm]

The more you know!

[inner isle]

I seem to be getting an interpreter error when running the script from the menu

[vagrant ivy]

then you have probably not downloaded it correctly

[dapper iris]

hey so i got the pif file and ran vampier's script and i got MK trilogy to load, but i cant get past the title screen in Mario 64. it crashes right after that. anyone have any ideas? i tried a different copy of the mario 64 rom

[vagrant ivy]

you havent patched the SM64 rom

[quasi storm]

@wanton sun And I was wondering. How much of your PS1 core development experience carried over to the N64 core? It sure feels like you're just chewing it up and spitting it out 🤣. I mean, following PS1 development felt like light speed, but this feels like it is going to plaid.

[vagrant ivy]

Read the FAQ again

[dapper iris]

ah gotcha, didnt know i needed to patch. thanks!

[fallen sparrow]

Hi guys,
How do I get saves to work?
Thanks in advance

[vagrant ivy]

Unstable Mister

and the new build

[quasi storm]

Eeprom saves are in. Any game that uses eeprom should save.

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

[quasi storm]

It's just like the PS1 core. You need to open the osd

[orchid nimbus]

eh guys

what's wrong with Mario?

[viscid nebula]

he's having a mental breakdown

[orchid nimbus]

break dance.... of a broken man

[fallen sparrow]

I'm on both

[vagrant ivy]

then you turn on autosave in the menu and open the menu to save

but it only works for EEprom saves

[quasi storm]

King Bobomb is using his psychic powers to hold Mario down while he approaches...

[cerulean elk]

trying core now

[orchid nimbus]

his final resting place

[cerulean elk]

what is the cache offset recommend again?

[fallen sparrow]

I've done that, I'm trying to save in MK64, is that not supported?

[nimble needle]

The ol' Bobomb b-boy teabag special

[vagrant ivy]

MK64 only saves after each cup

[lean spruce]

10 for SM64

[fallen sparrow]

Ahh, I was trying to save time trial data

[vagrant ivy]

Thats a pak save

[orchid nimbus]

what exactly is he doing

[vagrant ivy]

pak saves dont work yet

[fallen sparrow]

Gotcha

[fallen sparrow]

Gotcha, what's a good game to test the save on?

[cerulean elk]

filtering looks nice

[fallen sparrow]

Earlier in game the better

[orchid nimbus]

@remote hatch what is going on there 😄

[lean spruce]

MK64

[fallen sparrow]

I gotta do a whole cup, here goes lol

[drowsy lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/cocaine-drugs-gif-23720718

Awe but I like white lines.

[remote hatch]

This is what the wheels look like in 007 🤣

[lean spruce]

or first star in SM64

[fallen sparrow]

Gif of the year

[brisk drum]

That’s Ajax

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

[lean spruce]

set data cache to 10 for SM64 @fallen sparrow

[zinc dew]

lol

[fair stump]

Shadowgate 64 looks decent with the filtering

[brisk drum]

Uhhh my bad @fallen sparrow my phone just went nuts

[zinc dew]

Filtering =
No filtering =

[remote hatch]

@orchid nimbus

[zinc dew]

Is that Indiana Jones?

[quasi storm]

Mario kart can save cup progress, but not ghosts. Star fox, banjo kazooie...

[remote hatch]

007 the world is not enough

[fallen sparrow]

btw EEPROM4 or 16?

[vagrant ivy]

The Database automatically sets that

[cerulean elk]

funny when you get into the pyramid its all dark

[quasi storm]

You're overthinking it. Just go have some fun already!

[fallen sparrow]

lol, thanks

[fair stump]

"It just works" - Todd Howard

[cerulean elk]

fun to see Dire Dire Docks have some water

[atomic stratus]

I feel pretty much the same way except I kind of enjoy knowing I have the hardware and could set it up if I want to 😅

[wanton sun]

both should work

and you can save time trial times in mario kart, i tried it. But it only works if you complete a time trial (all 3 laps)

or you can just place a savegame on your mister and load that

e.g. 120 star mario64

then in main menu you can copy or delete saves to test

[languid ore]

Sounds like you have the perfect setup to help validate bugs on real hardware ;). Real hardware is always nice to have even if this core gets as good as the PSX core.

[wanton sun]

best to not touch anything but turning it on. the other options are only made for debugging, leave the delays at 0

[atomic stratus]

@languid ore definitely want to help with that if I can when we get to that stage!

[daring meteor]

One of the delays help SM64

[quasi storm]

You can save time trials, but not ghosts.

[cerulean elk]

yes to my audience I wont recommend touching it much

[zinc dew]

Yah I have my N64 hooked up to my CRT and I own nearly 200 games.

So I can validate

[cerulean elk]

you play games? I just thought you stumbled in here and said "ooh look frens"

Bomberman Hero time

[zinc dew]

Yeah, I run update_all every day.

[quasi storm]

That's what I did...

[mild ether]

Vivid Dolls still not working. 😞

[orchid nimbus]

good

[cerulean elk]

good thing ***Hub is probably up server side for you

lolol

[wanton sun]

i could reuse parts of the CPU and GPU pixel writing to ddr3, but that's about it. So maybe 20%. Cannot measure the experience you get with setting up e.g. simulations, emulators, tools,... but it helps a ton

[mild ether]

Nothing replaces the lewd dolls.

[orchid nimbus]

i got an E00862 error and it's hilarious 😄

[wanton sun]

really? for me it freezes in bob omb level with and without cache, so delay should not help

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun it crashed during the fight for me

the game runs

but mario is breakdancing

and just rolling down the mountain... slowly

[cerulean elk]

still runs the N64s best game

[fair stump]

I heard Mario had one of his ribs removed

[lean spruce]

I completed first star in bomb omb with delay set to 10

[orchid nimbus]

he's tried to shove his head up.........

he is an update

[cerulean elk]

saving persisted in Bomberman Hero fine

[pallid moth]

I get black screen when I run any game on n64 core, the bios.rom (from no-intro, correct sha1) is already on games folder. Any idea to fix? Is it still necessary to patch the roms? Because I am using the no-intro verified roms.

[vagrant ivy]

Did you use filezilla to transfer the boot.rom ?

[wanton sun]

if all games don't work, it's the boot.rom

[pallid moth]

Yes, it is in games folder already the boot.rom (correct sha1 from vampier website information )

[vagrant ivy]

1984 bytes ? transfered in binary mode ftp ?

As Robert said black screen means you messed up something with the Bios

[pallid moth]

yes, this size and CRC32 0AA20B09

[vagrant ivy]

the core does load to a black screen

then you hit f12 and load a rom

[weary palm]

I have made a new N64-database.txt with ~2200 entries. I did this by analyzing the bootcode of the ROM (IPL3) to figure out the correct CIC + looking up the hash in Mupen64 plus's database (mupen64plus.ini) to figure out save type, rumble and controller pak. Rename to just "N64-database.txt".

[cerulean elk]

I will be glad to make this the last time I watch the Banjo intro

[wanton sun]

if nothing works, try the niccc demo. This works 100% and if it doesn't it's for sure the boot.rom

[wanton sun]

it's boot.rom, not bios.rom

[pallid moth]

I see, I will check now

[pallid moth]

Thanks! MK64 running now! 😄

[thorny marten]

ahhh texture filtering..i know alot of people prefer not having it but its kinda what separates n64 from everything else.

[zinc dew]

• very few people prefer not having it

[weary palm]

It makes the games look moor bettur

[thorny marten]

i guess its just the loudest ones i'm always hearing say they dont like it

[devout leaf]

Which Mario 64 patch am I using for the ED pack version? Tried them all and no dice, what a drag.

[zinc dew]

because they cannot appreciate the natural beauty of 64 bits

[native mesa]

How much FPGA space is left?

[fallen sparrow]

Thanks

[daring meteor]

Did we reach 72%? Or not yet?

[azure thunder]

what's important about 72%

[weary palm]

Just tried the new core with MK64. Everything looks like I remember it, except transparent object and the corners around cutouts (like the trees for example). I LOVE THIS

[wanton sun]

74% filled, so maybe 10-15% left

[cerulean elk]

Rush 2 works nicely now

[azure thunder]

is the rest overhead?

[orchid nimbus]

is there an open source PIF for the N64 like the open source bios for the PSX?

[weary palm]

yeah, I found something like that yesterday.

[daring meteor]

Oh wow, 3% since yesterday?

[wanton sun]

10% should stay free, otherwise working with the core will be horrible, lot's of failed fits, no space for debugging

[daring meteor]

Yesterday was 71

[wanton sun]

filtering isn't small. And it's not even complete

center mode is still missing

and yuv filtering

[native mesa]

Sounds like it's gonna be tight

[daring meteor]

Mhm

Anything else you expect to take a bit of space?

[wanton sun]

it will be for sure. 2-3% for tlb, 1% for sram/flash, 5% more for rdp

[zinc dew]

Ohhhh nice

[hasty kayak]

How about CPU Speed?

[wanton sun]

i can win back 1% by bringing the cpu cache back to blockram (without random bugs of course)

and PI can also be optimized

[weary palm]

https://tenor.com/view/tight-cool-nice-awesome-fogell-gif-17098274

[zinc dew]

[wanton sun]

when things get really close to 90%, i can still invest time to make existing modules smaller

[weary palm]

My mind is completely blown away that this is even possible.

[native mesa]

I never believed the doubters

[wanton sun]

it's much easier to shrink modules when they are complete

[daring meteor]

We all can hope that 5% will not end up being 5%

[native mesa]

The naysayers

[zinc dew]

Never believe people who haven’t attempted it themselves or lack skill

It’s impossible for them, but not others

[lament escarp]

How many % for transfer pak so we can import our pokemon to stadium? 😄

[native mesa]

Lol

Doesn't Pokemon stadium basically have a full blown gb emulator?

[lament escarp]

It does, but I think it'd be neat to play pokemon blue on mister, change to the n64 core and import your team from the save file of the gameboy game.

[wanton sun]

if we could switch to real low level PIF (sm5 cpu + original firmware) we would likely reduce ressource usage

but it's difficult

[mild ether]

Dr Mario still plays awesome.

[daring meteor]

The high level PIF uses more resources?

[mild ether]

sm5 the cic?

remember reading over this but can't remember if it was the cic or pif.

It is.

[cerulean elk]

Mischief Makers at least shows a title screen

[wanton sun]

all logic for external pad handling is vhdl code...

it's just an assumption, could be the difference is small, not really sure

[oblique remnant]

for a while now. one of my most wanted 🙂

[daring meteor]

Huh

[cold pollen]

4

[cerulean elk]

try a little Sin and Punishment then its on to edit

[lament escarp]

Are there any additional chips in the n64 cartridges like on nes and snes?

[mild ether]

The CIC.

[wanton sun]

CIC decryption is also needed for games like banjo tooie

[cerulean elk]

fun filtering was had

[lament escarp]

But nothing like super fx?

[wanton sun]

no

[lament escarp]

At least that. 😄

[mild ether]

Shōgi had that modem though. Just in case you wanted to be bored with someone far away.

[ocean lily]

yay, finished tetrisphere

[viral swift]

Second Run Looks ok

[orchid nimbus]

no it doesn't

it has errors

[sudden harness]

if mario's face crashes mister how exactly do I obtain the faceless mario hack?

[orchid nimbus]

if there would be only a FAQ pinned in the pins @sudden harness

[orchid nimbus]

run update_all first

because it seems some functionality is missing there

the basename comes from mister main

[viral swift]

The Image is from the 1st run

Second run workes

Worked

[orchid nimbus]

no clue what happened

but glad it worked

[ocean lily]

We might need a reset button button setup for proper tetrisphere tho

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/198946-tetrisphere/cheats#:~:text=Vortex Code,the animation will keep looping.

[devout leaf]

At what point will you be comfortable that everything will fit? Like is there a threshold?

[nimble needle]

Woah. Fells like a 4th wall break

*feel

shit

[orchid nimbus]

I believe it's 70% full now

70+3+1+5=79

[lament escarp]

74%

Robert mentioned earlier

[orchid nimbus]

ok 83%

[silent marten]

sounds like it is gonna fit fine then

[orchid nimbus]

at this rate the core will be done before the end of the year

[zealous hull]

Robert also said he could likely save a % as well. I calc'd that at 82%. Before trying to shrink anything else.

[compact depot]

How much is implemented console-wise?

Is the core at 70% at least of a N64?

[daring meteor]

I mean, most games boot, so yes

[lament escarp]

It'll be fine. At this point I think people will still be asking if this will fit in their fpga after the core is fully completed and part of stable. 😄

[vapid moat]

Hope Robert's taking a few breaks inbetween working, dude's a magitechnological being

[zenith orchid]

Oh wow! fixes to copy mode and color combiner, does it fix HM64?

[static trout]

IIRC, the big question mark is just "how hard can we push the clock speed", and ao486 has answered that with "pretty darn hard, in fact," so there's cause to be optimistic

[marsh loom]

what romset are you guys using on the n64 core? a lot of the roms i have dont boot and they should be able to according to what i see

[devout leaf]

Do you have the pif and database files?

[mild ether]

the rom set needs no intro.

[marsh loom]

yeah

[zenith orchid]

Nope, still looks partially digested.

[devout leaf]

Google “Everdrive 64 2023-05-15” for an archive hint

No links though, sorry

[marsh loom]

thanks! yep i understand 🙂

[manic basin]

I actually laughed real world noises out of my face hole.

[orchid nimbus]

@devout leaf I literally give all the links in my FAQ 😄

they link to google linking to the archive

test roms/archive/bios

reading hard and much work - rather be lazy and ask

[zenith orchid]

KI gets a little further

[devout leaf]

Vampier add a button to your site that downloads and copies it over for people lol

[orchid nimbus]

@devout leaf I got the updater

the rest the user can do

[marsh loom]

interesting, i dont see the answer to my question in here. i must be extremely lazy that my eyes arent working

https://vampier.net/N64/#

[devout leaf]

Or your eyes are taking comments personally that are meant at the other 99% that don’t bother checking 😉

[compact depot]

@orchid nimbus please fix the FAQ 😌

[devout leaf]

It’s under ||Handy Links||

That should also work. I use the pack on the testing spreadsheet personally.

[orchid nimbus]

@marsh loom maybe you're both 😄

anyway - the info is out there

[devout leaf]

Schrödinger’s Core

[zinc dew]

Heads-up Mace the Dark Age works decently. Give that a shot for a fun little fighting game,

[devout leaf]

Well now I need an N64 fight stick

[orchid nimbus]

I don't have to visit the 'lavatory' however @zinc dew

@devout leaf I think I'm going to put a quickstart guide on the top of my page

TLDR; section

[devout leaf]

It’d probably help too. Awesome of you to host the info.

[viscid nebula]

He earns his blue tag

[devout leaf]

I’m not sure what the colors mean besides green, red, and Robby

[fair stump]

I don't read an faq cause I'm a wild man

[cerulean elk]

on to voice over to talk about pixels

how chunky is the true way

[viscid nebula]

Blue means we have blue balls

[zinc dew]

Just a reminder to not get too wild with gifs on the topic-channels

[marsh loom]

Maybe. Seems like your definitely a prick tho. Cheers.

[viscid nebula]

I disagree

[zinc dew]

No personal attacks. I will not warn again.

[viscid nebula]

[compact depot]

He’s not. He’s just a friendly troll. Seriously.

[viscid nebula]

Just your neighborhood friendly troll-man

Swings away

[zinc dew]

Plus I’m the only one who can make fun of @orchid nimbus

[compact depot]

No you’re not

[viscid nebula]

Pfft

Vampiers page looks like it was made with geocities site builder

[compact depot]

It was

“Proudly made with notepad.exe”

[devout leaf]

Beautiful

[viscid nebula]

🤣🤣

[zinc dew]

That’s good. We had someone earlier who didn’t name the boot rom correctly. Im sure there’s plenty others who might’ve missed that step.

[orchid nimbus]

Aw ❤️ just what a need - I made an idiot section for you on my FAQ

[zinc dew]

That’s not helping!

[compact depot]

Ban

[zinc dew]

No personal attacks

[marsh loom]

I’m sure he’ll get a warning too Robby eh?

[zinc dew]

He did

[orchid nimbus]

ey - I didn't call him an idiot

I called it an idiot section 🙂

[zinc dew]

c’mon

[orchid nimbus]

different things - nothing personal

[zinc dew]

Work with me here

[marsh loom]

I’m sure it’s the first time he’s been a dick to people on this.

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew you are behind the curve

[marsh loom]

Yeah work with your buddy

[lament escarp]

Thank you, this is for people like me. ❤️

[devout leaf]

It honestly feels like you don’t want to be here.

[orchid nimbus]

@marsh loom if you don't like it is not my problem

what have you done for the scene?

just curious

[zinc dew]

Look, I’m sorry. I don’t want to seem like I’m playing favorites. He knows better.

arguments are fine, no personal attacks

[viscid nebula]

Complained about his skill issue

[compact depot]

Chill down peeps. Let’s play some n64

[orchid nimbus]

@zinc dew do you ever know when you're being manipulated?

[devout leaf]

You aren’t. I barely talk to be here so I’m pretty impartial.

[marsh loom]

I made a FAQ website. sat on discord 24 hours a day and act like I’m gods gift to the scene. Oh wait sorry that wasn’t me. That’s you

[zinc dew]

I have to be as impartial as possible. I can also see his point.

[compact depot]

@marsh loom what’s your question again. Maybe I can help you?

[viscid nebula]

So you’ve done shit lol

[daring meteor]

No let's play some SATURN

[orchid nimbus]

another personal attack 😉

[devout leaf]

He was helped now he’s taking it out on Vamp

[viscid nebula]

Ungrateful assholes

I swear

[lament escarp]

I'm not saying you're wrong but please don't make this hard for robby.

[compact depot]

Oh dang 😔

[zinc dew]

I’m gonna start timing people out. Please no more.

[daring meteor]

What's your favorite N64 render mode

[zinc dew]

@marsh loom please reach out to me. I’ll help you with whatever you need.

[devout leaf]

I’m loving the new 8bitdo stick

[viscid nebula]

I’ll take one for the team? Bazset you’re the worst kind of retro fan. Always feeling entitled that the online community owes you help.

[lament escarp]

Why?

[marsh loom]

All this cos someone asked for the name of a romset ppl were using lol. You guys need to get a grip and stop acting like pompous assholes to ppl who don’t have the time to live on discord

[marsh loom]

Cheers Robby

[viscid nebula]

I wouldn’t help him with shit lol

[orchid nimbus]

Squirell shit according to his profile

[compact depot]

HTGDB or No-Intro

[zinc dew]

I hate doing this

[marsh loom]

Great. Good for you man

[marsh loom]

Thanks bro

[viscid nebula]

Finally made Robby take mod action

[zinc dew]

LOL

I hated doing it!

[compact depot]

Achievement Unlocked huh Robbie boy

[viscid nebula]

[devout leaf]

I gave you helpful information I’m not sure what the issue was but sorry.

[zinc dew]

Listen, I’m being extremely patient with you. You’re a guest and you’re new, I’m happy you’re here. Sincerely.

But please be more respectful.

[orchid nimbus]

moving on - if anyone has feedback on the FAQ - let me know - I'll try to adjust it or make it better

[chilly ember]

So how's that texture filtering looking? I can't check it out for few hours until i get home

[viscid nebula]

Feedback: you definitely need to join a webring

[orchid nimbus]

@chilly ember great

no more oversized pixels

[viscid nebula]

Or you’ll never spread out

[orchid nimbus]

what the heck is a web ring?

[viscid nebula]

Oh kids these days

[lament escarp]

Thank you for your good work, sir.

[orchid nimbus]

is that where you put a banned on your page

[viscid nebula]

these used to be a thing