Nintendo 64

[maiden wyvern]

can't even beat a fastrom yet

ridiculous

[viscid nebula]

they can with cheats on the mister

[daring meteor]

That kid is now 32

[viscid nebula]

they live on cheats

[maiden wyvern]

you know it doesn't count

[viscid nebula]

I know

its awful

even my wife who isn't a gamer hates the cheats

but they have fun at least

[orchid nimbus]

back when I was young we didn't have fast rom / we didn't have blast processing / we didn't have RTX ... heck we didn't even happy floppy disks

[maiden wyvern]

they should make the mister framework do cheats by entering them as button sequences in the middle of the game

[hearty python]

I never forget. I bought extra a kids console (vtech smile motion), but she loves the normal consoles more. 😁

[maiden wyvern]

then it'd be ok

[orchid nimbus]

now the internet is 10000x faster than a floppy drive 😄

[viscid nebula]

or like a game genie input

[orchid nimbus]

the laws of physics didn't change since then - so what gives?

[viscid nebula]

then again my wife is like "you know when I was a kid we didn't have cheats"

I'm like uhhhhh

game genie honey

[maiden wyvern]

hmm

[orchid nimbus]

@viscid nebula cheats are for losers!!

[maiden wyvern]

that's right

[viscid nebula]

make sure you turn god mode off on starfox ex then

[orchid nimbus]

(said the guy who wrote 2700 cheats for the MSX)

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[orchid nimbus]

starfox ex(tra) hard 😄

does it run on the core?

[viscid nebula]

of course

[orchid nimbus]

is it in the N64 Database file?

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[orchid nimbus]

if not poke Markun

[viscid nebula]

can't tell if trolling or not

🧐

[orchid nimbus]

you're not trolling 😄

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[hearty python]

Some games are so difficult, that I give up frustrated very early. Never looked back to them.

[viscid nebula]

cheats make those games playable and explorable

[hearty python]

That’s true, but I have never hacked one of my consoles. So they still laying around.

[orchid nimbus]

after I had a way to create cheats I went after the game that gave me the most grief when I was young... godmode on... make that overpowering godmode on... everything on screen died a horrible death.... it was so satifying to hear the cries of my enemies as they went up in flames and they didn't even know what hit them

[remote hatch]

it was the best fun

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/knigthmare-knightmare-game-msx-shmup-gif-23375810

it was this damn game

[cerulean elk]

Lol looks like I’ll be capturing again tomorrow 🤣

[graceful radish]

Reflex Adapt has a setting to output either Raw analog range or Normalized analog range so no problem.

[little socket]

Why are the bats throwing poop?

[remote hatch]

emergency drop

[orchid nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-russell-reflexes-big-trouble-its-all-in-the-reflexes-gif-5402755

@graceful radish was the reflex adapter named after this line in the movie?

[viscid nebula]

lmao

[cerulean elk]

How hard would it to be to pivot Reflex to have just a bank of pins? Taking analog raw data in via the HDMI port and then ejecting it out the back end on a bank of pins? Basically I’ve been kicking a device around in my head for the last year to easily inject analog data from controllers into arcade boards that use analog values for control w/o doing custom controller setup mods every time

[wanton sun]

not sure what you want to capture with save to sdcard...file explorer window? 😅

[cerulean elk]

Lol people will watch anything N64. I could show them Mario napping for ten minutes on the core and it would be like this

[graceful radish]

Yeah Reflex is a product line whose name came from that scene 🙂 clever!

[hearty python]

I remember the days with the trainers on the Amiga disks. I big challenge not only to supply first, you have to supply with a trainer 😁

[cerulean elk]

But no @wanton sun I have a viewer request test vid for today at 4 my time and probably won’t come back to N64 till there is more to show

[graceful radish]

Just need to do the firmware. You could input into HDMI port 1 and output from HDMI port 2 but would need to see which pins are analog capable

[cerulean elk]

Might be an interesting product. I don’t know how big the market is for arcade racing / arcade analog controls is but nothing exists that accommodates this so I’m chronically doing controller mods to tap signals. If I could just tap the signal without digging the guts out of controllers and grabbing my soldering iron…like gold

X/Y coordinates for flight stick based games and then just x coordinates for racing games (with analog values on triggers for gas and brake)

[graceful radish]

Good idea!

[orchid nimbus]

@graceful radish I didn't even know what the adapter did until I looked at your page

[neat sierra]

California seems like a dangerous place, a lot of stuff I buy from Amazon says it’s “known to cause cancer in California”. If I ever visit again I’ll be careful not to bring any 😉

[cerulean elk]

I’m tired of pad hacking GameCube controllers / wheel and pedal sets 🤣 I was doing prelim research on what chips would work but like everything I am doing 10 things at once and it’s sitting 1/4 realized

[orchid nimbus]

California causes cancer

[maiden wyvern]

the page works!

[wanton sun]

ok...ok, i do my best to give you something to work with 😛

[cerulean elk]

Lol no rush. Ive gotta get past 4 today with this vid as is

[viscid nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/kinda-funny-cracking-knuckles-getting-ready-greg-miller-gif-14429632

Spass irl

[cerulean elk]

“Hold my currtwurst”

[ocean lily]

I imagine transparency blending would make even more games playable

[cerulean elk]

I’m going out for German food for lunch in honor of the N64 core (ok that’s a lie. I just want German sausages)

[viscid nebula]

there shou'dve been ducktales 64

missed opportunity

[cerulean elk]

I agree with this opinion

[mortal panther]

Out of their staple franchises, the lack of a Metroid game on N64 always surprised me a little.

[sly wasp]

there's Ducktales C64

aka Quest for gold or Quest C64

[viscid nebula]

ooooh

[cerulean elk]

So close yet so far

We got Duck Dodger; totally C tier but at least it’s duck related lol

[sly wasp]

There's an Amiga port that might be a bit closer

[mortal panther]

Turok: Duck Hunter

[orchid nimbus]

Currywurst mit Pommes und Hela Curry 🙂 Besser gibt es nichts.

Und keine Eier

[foggy stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/currywurst-pommes-currypommes-trendizisst-gif-23763528

[cerulean elk]

I get that every Christmas at kriskindlemarket

[mild ether]

Sure could go for a proper German style Döner kebab but still have yet to find anywhere that makes it like they do in Germany.

[weary palm]

I want vegan Currywurst. Jetzt.

[mild ether]

In the US that is.

Stuff is magic after being out for beers.

[foggy stirrup]

salty and fat what more do you need 😛

[cerulean elk]

I’ve gotta take all sausage out of the bun now. Stupid celiac

[cerulean elk]

That’s no way to talk about @zinc dew s mom

[viscid nebula]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[orchid nimbus]

@mild ether 😄

I make that stuff myself

[robust trout]

Thank you very much for the rundown

[little socket]

corn does not belong in there

[orchid nimbus]

true

as Rammstein says "etwas kultur muss sein" 😄

[zinc dew]

That’s not what your mom told me

[cerulean elk]

Exactly. You didn’t even get her close

That’s a self burn there buddy

[zinc dew]

Look I’m trying you need to help me help you

[orchid nimbus]

@zinc dew you can't save yourself out of a paper bag

at this point

[robust trout]

I played lackadaisically through Breath of the Wild and I charged it once, maybe twice during that time. It was unreal, almost as magical as videogames-as-a-concept

[mild ether]

That looks good too! That's what it looks like when I order it in the US. In Germany it's more like fast food with the big spit of meat that looks like gyro meat and they make the bread fresh to order. Just never seen it like that in the US.

[devout leaf]

Looks delicious

[grand turret]

Check out Sonic Advance

Definitely far more momentum driven

[orchid nimbus]

@mild ether https://zankouchicken.com/ this comes close

[ripe prism]

I’ll try them but I always hear the fandom complain about sonic advance

You can’t win with those dudes

They hate all the fun games

[grand turret]

They like the stop and start

Because then its like mario lol

[ripe prism]

YOUD THINK THEN THEY BITCH ABOUT SONIC CD

They all just think shadow the hedgehog is hot

[grand turret]

I was under the impression Sonic CD is the GOAT but I've been seeing a lot more bitching about it recently

[devout leaf]

Local German group runs a Christkindlmarkt during December. All the food is killer.

Raclette cheese on bread with mustard and pickle? Awesome.

[raw oriole]

I do love a good schweinshaxe

[hearty python]

Looks more like a pan dish.

[hearty python]

We buy them from „Bofrost“. It’s hard here to get tasty ones. Not many can them make delicious 😋

[robust trout]

HEY. I closely resemble that remark

[lone geyser]

@hearty oar am I understanding correctly that you have NSO controllers operating at full range?

[eternal island]

once the n64 is done... if we could only get net play working somehow

i could kick all ur arses at mario kart

👍

i say that because ill never have to back up my words

[ripe prism]

We need netplay for a turf masters tournament

Or just use fightcade

[eternal island]

haha thatll never happen haha lol

....

[lone geyser]

Realistically we don't need netplay for a Turf Master's tourney

[cerulean elk]

Lolol

I mean I watch YT videos on topics I know but heart just because I’m entertained

[deft tree]

project 64 is right there

[eternal island]

sorry i dont know what a computer is

[deft tree]

hey kid im a computah, stop all the downloadin

i played a bunch of smash remix on project 64, netcode is pretty good

[iron trail]

As an alternative to netplay I think something similar to parsec/sunshine at the system level would be fantastic. Host would be on the MiSTer and cooperators would be on PC. Though my understanding is that the de-10 nano ARM side isn't capable of encoding the framebuffer 😦

[deft tree]

at that point you're still just better off using the PC based emulation

there have been some proof of concept examples of what you're saying though

[iron trail]

Not for the host 🙂

But yes you're right

[deft tree]

Protokami had a setup doing exactly what you're saying using Chronos Adapters and a supergun

[iron trail]

Oh neat, thank you for sharing

[deft tree]

he posted a vid on his YT a year or two ago about it

[cerulean elk]

Online MiSTer would take “the best damn retro gaming platform around” to the “as big as antibiotics” realm lol

[weary beacon]

Bigger than big pharma!

[mild ether]

Found this lodgenet cart board picture on Reddit. First time I have seen one of these. Cool stuff.

[cerulean elk]

Good serial number too 🤣

[sly wasp]

we have some online infrastructure already in update_all and wizzo's remote app so it should be technically possible..just needs some serious thinking outside the box and technical knowhow

[safe robin]

I red this as "big ass antibiotics" 😅

[mild ether]

Looks like the roms got loaded over that scsi interface and stored on ram sticks.

There is a board that plugs into the top into those two smaller connectors that had the CIC chips in it.

Wonder what the rj22 port was for.

https://imgur.io/a/Sk15rJA

Really cool. I must find one of these.

[ocean lily]

interesting that it looks like it's basically a cartridge emulator plugged into an otherwise normal n64

[hearty python]

I think a small box with an raspberry pi could do the work. I have forgotten the name, but there was a modem module for some consoles with a dial in function. Mostly with a lobby and the second player submit only data for the joystick.

No patches for games, etc.

[worn delta]

Dreamcast has multiplayer over the internet using a pi

[deft tree]

the only thing is, the netcode for that sucks compared to flycast

its cool from a preservation of functionality standpoint, but its not terribly usable, and only usable for games that had built in netplay

[devout leaf]

I know it’s not the same but the Insignia team rebuilding Xbox Live has been something to see.

[hearty python]

For retro design games and consoles it could be only a controller thing. Lokal multi player over an internet connection. The local box think it’s a local two player game.

Only controller data needs to be exchanged

[weary palm]

You've been Coconut Mall'ed.

[hearty python]

The real work is to come so far. 😂

[eternal island]

now im wondering if another external device connected as controller 2 could act as a netplay device...

for both real consoles and mister

[deft tree]

Yes, that external device is a PC

and you can pass the inputs with a Chronos adapter

[zinc dew]

everyone good? Can I help anyone with anything?

[hearty python]

Should be possible. It was done already in the past as a module for some consoles

It was an adapter where you put the games in

[silent marten]

Doing good bro, how about you?

[lament escarp]

Is the sound crackling in mk64 after a cup normal?

[hearty python]

Some games had audio issues, don’t remember if mk64 counts belong to it

[zinc dew]

Doing great! Thanks for asking.

[manic basin]

I shaved today and now I look like if you ordered John Romero from Wish. Guess it's time to look at the title screen of Daikatana for a few minutes.

[thick terrace]

hey all! What's happening today?

[remote hatch]

chillout

[wanton sun]

got my first failed fit 😦

[cerulean elk]

Diakatana is basically what happens if you order an FPS from Wish

[wanton sun]

second fit was ok, but i'm shocked to see that at only 71% logic usage

could be that the fitter tries to be so super smart for reaching the cpu clock speed, the router cannot manage afterwards

[cerulean elk]

2% over target

…..😉

But that’s some good overhead to 90%

[wanton sun]

yes, it should really be no issue, but well, hopefully it was a one time event

[manic basin]

Nice.

[cerulean elk]

I meant 73% weirdo

[manic basin]

HAH

[cerulean elk]

Sorry. I’m just in a joking mood today. 80 degrees. Going out for sausages and beers. The vibes are good

[remote hatch]

good idea, beer ! 😉

[orchid nimbus]

oh exciting!!

[past mango]

This is one aspect of FPGA development that you've mentioned before that I find confusing. Do you change anything on your end before attempting the fit again, or is it an error that can come and go? Based on previous messages it sounds like this can sometimes work and sometimes not, as if maybe each attempt can produce a different result?

[eternal island]

im in a pretty good mood too. the anesthesia fog from surgery is wearing off. will make playing around with the cores this weekend more fun

going to put them on a buddies mister too so he can play around with the n64 and saturn

[orchid nimbus]

happy juice

[wanton sun]

fpga place and route is simplified a big random generator that puts all the logic in the fpga at random places, then tries to optimize it and find routes. That's why every other build is kind of luck if it fits well

[past mango]

Ahh interesting. Thanks!

[lean spruce]

new build coming up? Whats the mission for testing?

[orchid nimbus]

break stuff

regression

progression

[lean spruce]

but what specifically? in new stuff obviously

[orchid nimbus]

once we see the release notes we know

[lean spruce]

omg

[orchid nimbus]

targetted at mario kart 64

[wanton sun]

surprise core, if you find the difference, you win 🙂

[lean spruce]

I want to win 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

you said texture smoothing

FPGA Vaseline

[devout leaf]

The date is different.

[wanton sun]

i said next weekend

[orchid nimbus]

oh

[cerulean elk]

It doesn’t allow Superman 64 to boot

[orchid nimbus]

sorry 😉

[eternal island]

"changes: intentionally broke support for a certain quest based rpg. that is all."

[cerulean elk]

The “No Superman Core”

[silent marten]

Ding ding ding we have a winner xD

[orchid nimbus]

@bronze tree can you adjust the database that superman will never boot

[cerulean elk]

Mario gets a face core but nobody stops and tests the vanilla rom because we are so used to the patched rom

[lean spruce]

that would be funny

[bronze tree]

done

[eternal island]

just make it so when you try to boot superman 64 it always loads the game before or after on the list, like the user mispressed on the wrong title

[wanton sun]

never have to watch that looong intro again, hooray

[orchid nimbus]

all the white stuff

[spring niche]

SD Save?

[remote hatch]

saves

[orchid nimbus]

someone had a fun party

[silent marten]

Woooo save to SD 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Lol spoiling your own surprises

[hasty kayak]

The ability to play Ridge Racer 64? Sweet 😉

[orchid nimbus]

yay!!!!

[cerulean elk]

But yes I’m so tired of watching that intro

[lean spruce]

Saves! Now I can make progress in Mega Man Legends!

[orchid nimbus]

ridge racer!!!

[hasty kayak]

Or ISS 64 with all of its awesome graphics? 🙂

[orchid nimbus]

finally I can save record in MK64

[wanton sun]

you cannot beat my records, i can change the timer tick speed 😛

need to see if i'm still good enough to unlock the hidden ghosts

[manic basin]

Todd Rogers confirmed.

[thick terrace]

btw what is all the white pixels around banjo?

[manic basin]

Texture vector alpha?

[wanton sun]

i don't know...

[plush summit]

dont ask questions you dont want to know

[manic basin]

Banjo got worms.

[spring niche]

may i ask: will there be a friday night core?

[versed cairn]

I heard it’s a texture wrap mode not implemented yet

[stone pilot]

Lightgun support when

[thick terrace]

I thought that might be his problem...

[silent marten]

When you decide to add it 🙂

[wanton sun]

unlikely, i don't see why this would hit every polygon border of every object with limbs

[stone pilot]

Would that I could...

[manic basin]

https://kbrecordzz.com/2022/12/17/banjokazooie/

[thick terrace]

I always reply the the wrong ...

[cerulean elk]

Someone who used to develop on the 64 left a comment on one of my videos talking about texture wrap mode on Banjo. Are they correct? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[hearty oar]

Yep, decided it was best to just let it get clamped by the stuff that you and @bronze tree are doing, let’s it still get used in other cores in full range if people want (surprisingly some said they do)

[wanton sun]

it's totally possible, but the wrap is already implemented and fulfilled the test i have thrown at it, but that doesn't have to mean anything

[versed cairn]

Is it a alpha shade pass that has a edge artifact?

I know alpha shows that line in other games

On the edge

[manic basin]

Yeah, that was my guess. But it's just 100% a guess since I only have surface knowledge of what's going on.

I have approximate knowledge of many things.

[hearty python]

Save support 😁

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun I was wondering why the wireframe is visible on polygons - is this part of the antialias stuff?

[versed cairn]

Yeah same. I have no technical knowledge. Just a guess

[manic basin]

It's probably buried but that's on the fix list he was discussing above for future fixes. Blending issues.

[wanton sun]

transparency together with coverage, so yes, kind of AA related

[hasty kayak]

Gotta be Billy Mitchell

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun sorry I didn't see that yet

nice - I like the wireframe look for some reason

[manic basin]

The King of Con

[hasty kayak]

Watch what you say 🙂 you might get sued

[manic basin]

Me too! We're all falling in love with these pre-complete 'features.' Hehe.

[compact depot]

New test core wen

[orchid nimbus]

next month if you keep on asking 😄

[orchid nimbus]

The king of Dong

[manic basin]

Nah, he won't touch it if it's red top. He'll walk away.

[orchid nimbus]

put some hot sauce on it

[devout leaf]

Billy Mitchell would like to know your address

[manic basin]

I've met Steve Wiebe before at a grocery store in Redmond. He was super nice (I didn't approach him, my friend did...it was embarrassing, but he seemed to genuinely like being recognized at the time). I will say that his basket stacking needs optimization if he wants to win King of Cart.

[plush summit]

I wonder what Steve thinks of the whole ordeal

Man was robbed

[manic basin]

Yeah, he legitimately was. And as more comes out, it's more and more obvious that it should have never been accepted as a win over his score. Again, he seemed pretty cool with the whole thing and I hope it doesn't bum him out too much. He is certainly more well known now than just having the record would have made him. So if he likes that, he's probably fine with it. But also, who knows if the Billy Brigade still pesters him....his sycophants are a special kind of gross.

[plush summit]

Yeah, the cheating honestly made Steve more popular and valid, I agree

[devout leaf]

Grain of salt but a guy I know in some arcade groups said he’s such a good guy he wasn’t upset but more like, yeah that sounds about right.

That movie was so good though

[plush summit]

They NEED to follow it up whenever Billy gets his shit pushed in

[opal quiver]

New release Guy!!! 🙂 🎉🎉😄

[versed cairn]

Time to 100% Mario 64!

[lilac scroll]

Man popping into this channel daily is a treat

Never know what new surprises await

[lament escarp]

@wanton sun just an idea: would it be possible to save controller paks per game? So if a game doesn't support the rumble pak it can automatically load the save pak, and so on. I know you're not working on it right now, but maybe for later.

[orchid nimbus]

update_N64 can be used

just uploaded the new version

[weary palm]

there's only one game that does 96k sram?? why you have to make it so difficult for me...

[wanton sun]

i hope so...sharing them with other games would bring the same pain as memory cards in psx

[vapid moat]

Saves are a thing now?

Yay, no more having to sit through Banjo-Kazooie's opening cinematic everytime I boot a new file

Unless that uses diffierent save format IDK

[wanton sun]

i tested banjo, mario kart and mario64

[hearty python]

That means we have 200 saves for 200 games ?

[vapid moat]

The King of Con

[desert crow]

this guy is good

[hearty python]

Saves need unstable?

[wanton sun]

unless you want to set up the game settings yourself, yes

unstable + database configures the save type

[lament escarp]

At this point I can't even imagine using stable anymore. So many features not in it yet.

[modern sleet]

You do have to re-load the game, you cant just have mario64 open then reload the core. In case anyone encounters that

[snow mulch]

Get the llpa stuff down please. Got a blister.
Last time i tried the core like 4 days ago mario kart the kart wouldn't move. The menu's before the race started worked. That was weird. Ill try the n64 controller adapter. Had the ps2 hooked up with blister. got the n64 adapter. later tonight.
Using my switch controller worked fine.

The mirror replay in that level is working. Took a long time for a emulator to do that. That's how peaple knew it was a emulator before.

[wanton sun]

yes, i should block loading the game after reloading the core

[lilac scroll]

I tend to prefer waiting for things to hit stable but I also have all my roms on an SSD and just a small SD for the OS so in theory (despite the pain of removing SD cards from the aluminum case, needing to flip it), I could have an unstable SD card I pop in

[carmine kettle]

new build lord have mercy

ineed a drink

[vagrant ivy]

llapi is unsupported by Mister. You will have to ask the people who make the forked cores

[lament escarp]

I totally get it, but n64 database, nso controller drivers, stick range fix for n64 are all things I wouldn't want to miss. Sure, when saturn and n64 are finished and well integrated in stable there wont be less incentive.

[vagrant ivy]

Why remove cards just SSH in and replace it in situ

[frail jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/download-percentage-bar-gif-14654535

[devout leaf]

75% complete, nice!

[lilac scroll]

Is it just one file? I spent 35+ years on windows PCs and have OCD around vestigial file dingleberries

[vagrant ivy]

yes one file

[frail jolt]

why is no one talkimg Concur!?

[brisk drum]

So we still need the latest unstable or are we fine with the last unstable ?

[lilac scroll]

it’s taken me a while to realize Linux and stuff like mister doesn’t have a problem like that

[frail jolt]

Conker*?

[brisk drum]

Concur is better

[frail jolt]

I concur

[lament escarp]

2 if you want that nso driver.

[lilac scroll]

Tinkering don’t come natural for me

[vagrant ivy]

put the mister back in the box and step away

Mister is all about the tinkering 🙂

[lament escarp]

First time I installed unstable I felt like diffusing a bomb, worse yet filezilla messed up the copy so it wouldn't show any video anymore. But the nice people here helped me uninstall filezilla and fix my mister. 🙂

[lilac scroll]

I have transmit on my Mac

Generally things go fine

[lament escarp]

Just make sure it transfers binary, what ever the hell that means!

[chilly pivot]

So, what’s the status? Can we play for example wwf no mercy?

[eternal island]

try it, see what happens

[vagrant ivy]

Its a beta core

you need to try it

[chilly pivot]

I not home right now lol. I like to see more reports with working titles

[fair stump]

Is there much that needs testing this time beyond saving and loading?

[hearty python]

I cant not understand why mister main has not a toggle to unstable. One button in the menu, rebooted and done.

[chilly pivot]

WWF no mercy was a example

[manic basin]

The new build locks up for me on the Bob-Omb fight in SM 64 every time now. I played through a few levels on the laste cache core fine. Womp womp.

[fiery grove]

i tried in the N64_20230830 build, but doesn't load, we gotta be patient, but man, Robert is a beast, i'm amazed with the N64 Core progress

[wanton sun]

there is a sheet that lists playable games. Overall only few really run well currently

if you can live with graphical glitches some more

[vagrant ivy]

Quest 6 4 is flawless 100 % its Robert's Fav Game !

[fiery grove]

thank you so much @wanton sun for all the hard work

[lament escarp]

Is the pink stuff gone??

[wanton sun]

no 😦

[vagrant ivy]

No idea I never play it !

I just like the Meme

[lament escarp]

I'll 100% it when there are savepaks and all the video modes are in. Mark my words!

[eternal island]

same. ill use my buddy to 100% it

[oblique remnant]

"Saving..."

[eternal island]

im not gonna. i hate it. but he'll get through it and save me the punishment

[orchid nimbus]

but it's in there

isn't this for saving?

[wanton sun]

controller pak is not yet supported

only eeprom saves

[orchid nimbus]

ah

got it 🙂

didn't know there was a difference

[wanton sun]

mario kart64 has both: eeprom for times and cup results, controller pak for ghosts

[orchid nimbus]

cart save and pak save

[paper orchid]

Oh wait, we have EEPROM saves now?

[fair stump]

Does there happen to be a list of eeprom save games?

[fiery grove]

the connor forest was my wall always, maybe i didn't grinded enough

[fair stump]

Blues brothers only wants controller pak so it's not worth testing

[wanton sun]

you can search here for eeprom

https://github.com/ares-emulator/ares/blob/master/mia/medium/nintendo-64.cpp#L161

[simple olive]

if(id == "NTW") {eeprom = 512; cpak = true;}                           //64 de Hakken!! Tamagotchi

[wanton sun]

oh wait, you can also use the n64-database 🙂

[prime kernel]

I'm sure this has already been answered here and I'm just missing it but does it allow me to map to the analog sticks on my ps5 controller? Doesn't seem to be working for me.

[wanton sun]

you need to configure the analog stick in menu core before loading the n64 core

you don't need to map it in the core

[paper orchid]

Alright, so technically I could fuck around and make an EEPROM save for S&P

[prime kernel]

ah there it is. Thank you....and also thank you for all you are doing on this! it's incredible!

[paper orchid]

See how later in the game looks

[wanton sun]

yes

i downloaded a mario64 savegame and placed it on sdcard. works fine

[paper orchid]

Oh actually

[wanton sun]

make sure that the name matches the rom name and ends with .sav

[paper orchid]

Maybe I can dump the save off my S&P cart

[devout leaf]

How is the SNAC testing going?

If any testers are on

[orchid nimbus]

first try!

[paper orchid]

is yoshi eyeless

[devout leaf]

Wow Yoshi’s eyes look…scary

[orchid nimbus]

he just commited suicde by jumping off the roof

..... what the.....

[devout leaf]

Start of new Mario 64 creepypasta

[paper orchid]

Please tell me the game crashes after he jumps off the roof

Just like...that's it, no more yoshi

ever

[vapid hawk]

is snac support actually in the core now?

i have all the hardware needed to test i think

[orchid nimbus]

oh new error codes

[devout leaf]

Not yet, @zinc dew is helping test it

[orchid nimbus]

5 digits now

[devout leaf]

I’ve got my N64 SNAC on standby waiting

[vapid hawk]

i have snax+ hdmi/n64 cables, which i think is enough

lmk if u want more testers

[carmine kettle]

lol that a negative on that

[manic basin]

Hmmm. No luck with EEPROM saves...but I've changed a lot of settings. What setting should be in the System Settings selector?

[vagrant ivy]

Unstable Mister Main ?

[manic basin]

Yes

[vagrant ivy]

should just work

[manic basin]

Hmm.

It's also crashing on the King Bob-Omb fight. Weird.

[stone pilot]

Two kinds of saves is my least favorite thing about the Nintendo 64

[fair stump]

Saving and loading works for me

[terse canyon]

the intro where fox , falco, peppy and slippy are running has disapeared

[ocean lily]

that cursed 121 pages required

[manic basin]

Huh, works on Banjo, so it must just be something up with Mario Kart. None of my times saved.

[wanton sun]

did you really complete the course? did you open osd?

it works for me

[remote hatch]

Yeah , works ok

[modern sleet]

DK64 delete save with the wrong CIC is the worst kind of save 🙂, that was a bad lesson on the everdrive, but no more with Vamps work

[manic basin]

Yes. Got my trophy, went back to the select screen....nada. Weird.

And yes, I always open OSD.

[wanton sun]

did it say saving when you opened it?

[manic basin]

Yep

[wanton sun]

is there a savegame on your sdcard?

and yes, mario64 crashes on bob-omb if you stay too long in the level

[manic basin]

Yes.

There's a sav file for Mario Kart.

Weird.

[wanton sun]

does that mean you got back to slect screen without even reloading the game/core?

[eternal island]

bring your best speed run strats, the bomb has to die, and he has to die fast. don't let him detonate your de10

[orchid nimbus]

@wanton sun I found the new bits to add for the error codes

[hearty python]

Just asked me what will happen if n64 core sees rumble- and transferpack simultaneously?

[manic basin]

Correct.

[wanton sun]

yes, 2 new

[orchid nimbus]

will add functionality soon - until then the decoder is broken

🙂

[wanton sun]

thank you 🙂

[vagrant ivy]

You have ruined my Weekend. How dare your free resource not be working !

[wanton sun]

if you don't reload the game/core then the new saving isn't even required

[manic basin]

No, I know... I'm saying I got back there, then opened OSD to write back. After that yes, I rebooted the core.

[wanton sun]

did you reload the game?

[manic basin]

But it's JUST Mario Kart. Banjo is working fine.

So it might be something funky there.

[oblique remnant]

but still it crashes 😄

[manic basin]

Yes.

[wanton sun]

if you just load the core and the game is still booting, your save data is not there

it's just stale data in ram, game is not really loaded

[manic basin]

Don't sweat it. I'm sure it's on me.

[wanton sun]

if you find out, please let us know 🙂

[manic basin]

For sure.

[silent marten]

Tetrisphere seems to save fine

Let me try and load it from a cold boot 🙂

[cerulean elk]

Funky….Kong? Lol

[silent marten]

Yup all is good with Tetrisphere here, I can beat it on the core now 🙂

[fair stump]

It was just a single track time trial? I can try it myself later

[manic basin]

Ah, maybe that's it... do times not save for cup? I completed a 150cc cup circuit.

[vagrant ivy]

I think Robert said no time attack time saves

just the cups

[silent marten]

@cerulean elk 4PM video tonight??

[hearty python]

The eeprom for the saves was original in the game modules ?

[fair stump]

I don't know the game at all 😅 I just need to know the steps to test it myself

[cerulean elk]

Yep

Viewer request episode. I’ll do another one Sunday at 4 probably

Out with my wife now though

I made this video open ended anticipating Robert would pull a fast one so it’s a “texting YOUR requests I haven’t shown yet”

[silent marten]

Play Tetrisphere 🙂

[steady basalt]

Is the Eeprom support for both types? 4Kbit and 16Kbit?

[zenith orchid]

HM64 fixed? 🙂

But in all seriousness, this is an awesome update!

@wanton sun btw, do you still think it's necessary for RDP to be 100% before TLB work starts?

[cerulean elk]

It’s in there

And WEST 63 and 1/3

[vapid moat]

https://youtu.be/JRbo_0iYYSo?si=5KOb6jeibChp1XM4

Is this your footage

[manic basin]

OK, yeah. Time trials showed up. I just expected time data for Cup courses and that didn't show up.

[languid dune]

Whaaaat!? We seriously got save support already!?

[ember linden]

Do the CIC 5167 games boot now? Aka the 64dd cart ports

[terse canyon]

i never knew you could move the 64 around 🤣

[lament escarp]

Too bad I already broke all the world records in mk64 but couldn't save the times to proof it.

[fair stump]

you too?!

[languid dune]

Wait, is something else needed for this build? I'm getting the whole Saturn black screen of death thing when boot.rom was used.

Or wait, I might need to rebind the buttons for my N64 controller.

Yeah, that was it.

[steady basalt]

I moved the stick before pressing start back then, it was a nice surprise.

[silver galleon]

The last 2 times I was in Germany were during covid lock downs. So devastated I couldn’t go for a döner. Next March…countdown already started. 😁

[languid dune]

Just tried saving in Mario 64, and it didn't work. Maybe the face skip patch doesn't work with saving?

[chilly ember]

I assume you would need to setup save type since database.txt wouldn't be able to detect it

[iron trail]

The game save type in the core is configured from the database and since it's patched it's likely not being found in the db

Edit: clarity

Yeah what @chilly ember said

[manic basin]

@wanton sun Deleting the .sav file and starting over fixed everything on Mario Kart. It was like the file was write protected or something (it didn't show the read only attribute, it just acted that way). Deleting it suddenly caused everything to just work.

[chilly ember]

Got to whomp's fortress in sm64 and crashed as soon I got to king whomp with data cache on

[loud tartan]

I hope someone could help me, I seemed to have messed up the NSO pad controls somehow, the analogue stick only works on the horizontal axis. Could somebody tell me what files to delete in in the config files so that I can reset the controller to a state where the MiSTer thinks I'm pairing it for the first time ever. It was working as expected at one point, but something I've done has screwed it up!

[cerulean elk]

He only takes credit

No cache accepted

[manic basin]

This was renamed to A Whompmass Story

[chilly ember]

Apparently haha, I tried again without cache, it worked then again with cache and it worked so guess it's just random

[blissful plaza]

I've found that the core is a little bit slower on Starfox main intro between each cockpit review (G-Diffuser check before the main game) and the intro of Mystical Ninja isn't synch'ed anymore (+scratchy sounds) even with the Data Cache ON (no other options activated).

Otherwise, the gameplay on Starfox feels great, plays great and all.

I'm playing N64 games like when I was younger and will do battles on Mario Kart 64 with my family during the next week end.

[oblique remnant]

OMFG Hybrid Heaven a bit further 🙂

[desert nest]

I don't recall the Mystical Ninja intro ever being synced, at least not in my experience.

[sacred valley]

Hey guys, I have some questions, is there an FAQ in the works already? If not, I'm namely interested in;

• How cache is enabled
• Where to get the database that I am supposed to upload to the Mister

Please forgive me if this was answered. I did indeed perform a search first

[zenith orchid]

check the pins 📌

[sacred valley]

Of course. Thank you!

[hollow rune]

Was kind of taking a break today and the whole world changed!

[lament escarp]

And it's just the beginning of the weekend... god knows what robert is cooking up now.

[orchid nimbus]

https://vampier.net/N64/

decoder works again

made it in such a way that no coding is needed in the future when errors are added

[sacred valley]

I was able to find the database, but I am still having a difficult time finding how to enable the cache. I'll continue to poke around; I may just be very bad at this but the search is very difficult for me to use with these new channel types

[calm knoll]

QwestSixtyFour confirmed?

[mortal panther]

That will be considered a regression.

[sly wasp]

which cache are you trying to find?

[sacred valley]

Thank you for reaching out. I am looking for how to enable the CPU cache in order to test at higher speeds. I have so far looked through the menu, the FAQ and the pins. I did find the database in the FAQ which was half of what I was looking for

[sly wasp]

oh it's in the incore menu

[sacred valley]

That sounds like something else I need to look into. Was not aware of it. Thank you for the lead

[hearty python]

System Setting in Core

[fair stump]

So there's that Quest savestate that people have used, has anyone tried other games like that and is there a specific way to convert other emulator savestates to the ss type the core uses?

[brisk drum]

Negative but world tour works like gangbusters

Wait new core version is out!! It might work now

[chilly ember]

Nothing on wwf no mercy yet

[sacred valley]

My mistake guys. I thought I had updated and it turns out I messed up. Thank you for the help

[silent marten]

I actually got in game on Buck Bumble for a few seconds

[sacred valley]

Wow the difference

[dreamy ridge]

new BUILDDDDD, cla-cla click click. BOOYA

[modest helm]

This may be a bit off topic, but what's everyone's thoughts on the MARS project and will we get a more feature complete N64 core on that platform?

[compact depot]

IMHO: Vaporware

[modest helm]

Fair

[drowsy junco]

I get that reference. I think

[hollow rune]

HM64 looks better but not good

[dreamy ridge]

cheat commandos? 🤣

[zinc dew]

test build link in pins updated

[hearty python]

N64 isn’t done yet. I bed we will all happy with the final result on mister 😁

[hollow rune]

Snowboard Kids 1 might be perfect

Gonna get the sheet out

[zinc dew]

saves are in? that's pretty cool

[orchid nimbus]

until I see something that it released and I know the real specs and price... then maybe it will be interesting... until then it's vaporware

[compact depot]

Time to some OoT

[chilly ember]

I've yet to find anything much different from last build performance wise but saving is cool

[safe robin]

Yes but no memory card saves only eprom

[zinc dew]

all EEPROM types?

[pallid falcon]

Neon Genesis Evangelion might work now. Previous versions of the core produce an "EEP-ROM NOT FOUND" message. I'll give it a go tomorrow.

[safe robin]

Im not sure

[zinc dew]

Here's a list of games with EEPROM saves - http://micro-64.com/database/gamesave.shtml

[fickle yew]

Lot's of cagey non-answers about the project on twitter as well as people getting banned just for asking for specific details that shouldn't be too hard to answer. There was a recent reddit thread about the teaser and even the responses there were cryptic / borderline aggressive

[pallid falcon]

No mention of NGE in that list, I'm assuming it doesn't cover Japanese games.

[fair stump]

Still froze for me earlier when gameplay started

[devout leaf]

Hows the SNAC testing going? I've got my adapter waiting lol

[raw oriole]

Check out #fpga-platforms from... last week or whenever the original kerfuffle was. Loads of better-educated-than-the-Mars-twitter-person chat there.

[safe robin]

I think Robert tested Mario kart and banjo and it worked for him

[cerulean elk]

https://youtu.be/8v6XvSICfFM?si=XmkKHtdPaVkRorTS

More nonsense for your long weekend

[pallid falcon]

Thanks. At least it boots now.

[manic basin]

Yay, VGE and Pixel posts!

[hearty python]

I asked me how they finance it. 10.000 x 250€, they need minimum 2.5 Mio. EUR 😁

[fair stump]

It has been booting for me and running pretty well for the past couple versions. It's just that when proper gameplay and graphics come up it freezes

[pallid falcon]

Well, it booted before, At least it starts

[weary palm]

I added some entries to the N64-database.txt, I haven't tried it out yet. You can be my bug testers. 😉

[rapid prairie]

Moving this weekend but excited to try out this new core. Would everdrive saves work with the core?

[weary palm]

yes

[pallid falcon]

64 de Hakken!! Tamagotchi works just fine when I tried it out a couple of versions ago

[orchid nimbus]

for an already niche market

never gonna happen

not after the BS that @twin barn pointed out

[zinc dew]

It works, pretty flawless too.

I tested my Densha de Go controller with Mario Kart and it was just as jank as real hardware when using it with Mario Kart lol

[manic basin]

"I don't control the railways OR the flow of commerce!"

[devout leaf]

Hopefully I'll get to test the new cores with it soon.

[zinc dew]

I'll have to re-check but it only worked with my SNAX adapter

[manic basin]

So on Saturn, are you playing Bug! SNAX?

[weary palm]

Yay, Mirror House finally works.

[devout leaf]

Yeah I've got the Snax for my PS1 games.

So I should be good either way

[carmine kettle]

i though bug doesnt work

i got snax for ps1,nes.snes,genesis,saturn,n64

[devout leaf]

NES, SNES, N64, PS1 here. Need to grab a Saturn one.

[zinc dew]

It's a play on words, both referencing Bug! for the Saturn and Bugsnax for the PS4/PS5/PC

[weary palm]

@wanton sun Do you know why there's no sound in Diddy Kong Racing?

[manic basin]

It works for me if I reboot and hit start at just the right time on the paper spin. But it's not fully working for everyone. Or even most people.

[zinc dew]

It only works for the true fans

[native mesa]

Does this new build fix Banjo stuff?

[devout leaf]

He's probably asleep by now

[hollow rune]

So on Dr Mario your profile is saved but not your story mode progress

[chilly ember]

You can save now in banjo but it probably performs all the same

[native mesa]

I meant the texture wrap issue

[quaint rune]

Nope

[manic basin]

@carmine kettle Took me 15 attempts to get in just now. But once you do, it runs great. If you're interested in trying, we can move the convo over to Saturn, but yeah...it ...KINDA works.

[native mesa]

What's different

[hollow rune]

Nvm, Dr Mario saving is perfect, just horribly unintuitive.

[native mesa]

Dr Mario uses Epic

[orchid nimbus]

I added the new core to the download dir which automatically is picked up by the script

I pay for bandwith for these uploads

goes against my monthly allowance

green is my upload

[velvet nexus]

Vampier that's very kind of you

[safe robin]

Star wars shadows of the empire save/load of the story works for me!

[hollow rune]

Eeprom works for Wave Race

[native mesa]

Why not use git or soemthing

[orchid nimbus]

it works for everything

@native mesa because this is temp.

[native mesa]

I fear I won't be testing so much now that I can play Starfield

[desert nest]

Or just link directly to the asset on Discord's side 😂 you don't need to be authenticated.

[native mesa]

Maybe that does work with a python script? Idk. I'd feel better if they weren't hosted privately personally

[desert nest]

Yeah it should work fine. Also the script isn't Python, it's just a shellscript using wget.

[paper orchid]

I mean as it stands, you're trusting someone else's script to make changes to your MiSTer. Technically you could setup a redirect to point to the Discord resource, but either way you're trusting a script to download "something" from "somewhere"

Unless you start including e.g. SHA1 hashes with each core release, not sure it matters where the core's being downloaded from

(That being said, I would personally do a redirect to the asset on Discord because, make Discord pay for it lmao)

[native mesa]

For me it's more of a privacy concern than a malicious software one

[paper orchid]

Suppose there's that concern, but we're also talking an access log on an HTTP server somewhere

[desert nest]

Yeah I'm not sure whose privacy we're looking out for here

[paper orchid]

Someone's gonna get your IP no matter what lol

[native mesa]

Vampier secret Nintendo ninja gonna hunt us down

[paper orchid]

Selling us out to Nintendo for that NSO expansion pack sub 😆

[desert nest]

Good thing they're not distributing the PIFs 😉

[paper orchid]

All that aside, could also see if Cloudflare would cache the core as a resource and take most of the bandwidth hits, it really depends on how big of a concern it is

[weary palm]

which controller test rom works on the core?

[paper orchid]

The VPS I pay $18/quarter comes with 5TB up and down, can't imagine ever hitting that limit

[desert nest]

Looking at the graph I'm assuming it was largely a joke, there's no way it's costing much of anything

[hollow rune]

Did anyone notice graphical issues in Star Fox 64? It looks perfect to me.

[paper orchid]

Yeah, I can't imagine the cost will be too much over a period of time

Even then, make Discord foot the bill lmao

[thorny marten]

so what kind of controllers you guys using for n64?

[brisk drum]

DS4

[ocean lily]

an N64 controller (NSO)

[brisk drum]

And 8bitdo fight stick for fighting games

[thick terrace]

I'm stuck in mario kart. How do you reverse? I just got a new usb n64 style controller and set it up up down left right A B Z L R Cup Cdown C left Cright STart. It asked for savestate button. Dunno what that is and there's no more buttons on the controller.

[brisk drum]

I believe it’s B to reverse

[thick terrace]

Peach is against something in front of her and I can't get out,.

[brisk drum]

Hold B

[hollow rune]

Hold b

[thorny marten]

i ordered the 2.4ghz tribute 64..will probably hunt down a real n64 controller once we have snak and all that

[weary palm]

I can't find a working controller test rom

[chilly ember]

There's savestate you need to use for the one that works I believe

[thick terrace]

Thanks. It was hold B and pull back on the stick. Seems weird.

maybe I bumped the stick when I setp the controls. How do you hold this controller for MK?

[weary palm]

Yes B + back on stick

[ocean lily]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-disappointed-fan-seriously-what-are-you-doing-judging-you-gif-17485289

[thick terrace]

don't give me that look. It's a weird controller

[weary palm]

I hold it like this

[thick terrace]

does the dog give you extra speed?

[weary palm]

Woof

[ocean lily]

you either hold it like my last post or like this

[thick terrace]

My cat wouldn't sit for that.

[ocean lily]

just depends on the game, but most games will use the first one

[thick terrace]

if you hold it like that you can't press Z

[ocean lily]

2D games are more likely to use the bottom one

[thorny marten]

got this coming tomorrow

[ocean lily]

For games that don't use the center grip, they don't use the Z button; they use the L button instead

[thick terrace]

and the dpad doesn't work with mk as far as I can tell. I got this one for $14 free shipping on ebay. Came tossed in a plastic mailing envelope with the wimpiest bubblewrap sleeve ever.

[ocean lily]

lots of 3d games don't use the d pad at all because you'd have to change grips

[thick terrace]

I was using the PS1 classic style usb controller from my psmini, lol

[weary palm]

I'm shocked. A person who doesn't know how to hold an N64 controller.

[thick terrace]

Will the core rumble if I put a rumble pack in the controller

[safe robin]

Maybe Nintendo made the Controller just for Men. Ever asked yourself why it's called the D-Pad 🤡

[thorny marten]

I used a 8bitdo snes controller for mario kart 64

[primal bolt]

the center handle is for children

[thick terrace]

I collect things that play games (I have all of them up through 360) but I don't really play games.

[weary palm]

Oh.

[pallid falcon]

No rumble support yet (but the NSO controller can apparently rumble when playing the PS core)

[weary palm]

Real men have three arms

[primal bolt]

lol

[thick terrace]

I like playtesting games, but once the cores are done, I rarely ever play them again.

[weary palm]

So the mister is mainly a collectors item for you?

[thorny marten]

anyone ever use 2 controllers episode 1 racer? that was my favorite way to play that..

[weary palm]

I've used two controllers in Goldeneye

[thorny marten]

how does 2 controller work with that?

[chilly ember]

I've used two controllers in Goldeneye too, it's cool but a little awkward lol

Two sticks

[ocean lily]

one hand on each center grip

[chilly ember]

So like modern controls with two analog sticks but with two controllers lol

[thorny marten]

oh ok

[ocean lily]

progenitor of the wii nunchuck

[weary palm]

Yeah, but it sucks to have only two buttons (the Z buttons)

[last scarab]

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/197462-goldeneye-007/67055675

TIL

[ocean lily]

it's a shooter; all you need to do is move, aim, and shoot

[weary palm]

Hope the core will let you map a single controller to two N64 controllers one day. Almost not a useless feature.

[thorny marten]

for episode 1 racer it basically has that zero turn sterring

[orchid nimbus]

Cannot be linked

[orchid nimbus]

Got it too / if you can’t get it to pair reset with the pinhole

Also read up on modes if it doesn’t work

[desert nest]

Why not? TOS?

[orchid nimbus]

Give me the link to the exact file 🙂

[desert nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/737506076806611064/1147230947964624906/N64_20230901.rbf

[orchid nimbus]

Well that was easy lol

[desert nest]

Can grab it unauthenticated with wget too, no problem.

[orchid nimbus]

I can’t get that on mobile though

[desert nest]

Do you update your website from mobile?

[paper orchid]

@orchid nimbus iOS or Android?

[compact depot]

Any new updates on the N64-database.txt file?

[ocean lily]

I imagine there's limits to how many external downloads they'll allow

[compact depot]

Still have the first version here

[chilly ember]

I think yxkalle updated it but I don't know what was added

[orchid nimbus]

ok how did you get the link to the file

[desert nest]

Right-click, copy link

[orchid nimbus]

derp

[desert nest]

That's the message link if I'm not mistaken.

[cerulean elk]

Heheh

[desert nest]

I'm right-clicking the blue link for the filename itself.

[orchid nimbus]

doesn't work for me

do you use the app?

[desert nest]

Yeah

[orchid nimbus]

or website?

[desert nest]

App

[orchid nimbus]

I don't have the app installed

just the website

right click disabled on the link

always fun when they do that

no hot linking allowed I guess 😄

[weary palm]

Someone (Zoinkity) made GoldenEye playable on the iQue player. 😂 https://youtu.be/xQB7o380XiE

[desert crow]

Now that Robert is asleep the kids can play.
Since a few more people got SNAX n64 cables this week figure I'd get you guys to test out some controllers. Let me know if you find one that doesn't work.
This is 1 port only(left port in snax). Both usb and snac can control the port so don't use both at once. There is no snac osd options, it's always on. No paks are supported only controlers. 😦

The snac code is very basic so this is more of a hardware test than software.
There isn't any code to merge and I won't do builds for every change.(I can't keep up with Robert)
I don't want anyone to feel left out. Have a good weekend

[thick terrace]

super angry now. I was winning on the last lap and I spun into the wall. I held B and reversed, then held A and NOTHING happed. Push A hold Push A hold forward on stick. Back up more, try again it will not start again. Punding all buttons and it starts moving. GRRRRR. went from first to last just stuck there. Please tell me how to do it. Why is it not intuitive? Hold A moves forward, except after you reverse some, then pressing A doesn't?

[desert crow]

think i saw @vapid hawk @devout leaf and @carmine kettle might want to try

[devout leaf]

Well my night is set. Thanks for the ping!

[safe robin]

Would be great if it would be possible to map the right analog stick on a modern controller to the player 2 analog stick of the n64 core. Maybe also the Z button. Then we could use the golden eye dual controller mode on one controller

[hollow rune]

That is actually weird. What course was it?

[weary palm]

@thick terrace I cannot reproduce this.

[hollow rune]

Mario Kart right?

[deft tree]

were you spinning out or just doing nothing

[weary palm]

Guess you got stuck somehow.

[hollow rune]

I got myself into a state where I couldn't reverse, but that is different, and was easy to resolve

[dreamy ridge]

lmao last course of the cup

[weary palm]

Typical

[quasi storm]

It's a time trial

[thick terrace]

Warios stadium. Now I remember why I don't actually play games that much. "I DO THIS TO RELAX, CAN'T YOU TELL??!!!" lol. I remapped the controller and it wasn't so bad. 150cc the game is too fast for me, lol.

[devout leaf]

Man this new stick feels like butter. Feels real good on the core.

[sonic kiln]

Which stick did you get?

[mortal panther]

Stick of butter?

[hollow rune]

i will try it there tomorrow. may have been a fluke

[warped cobalt]

I think the trick is to mash the start button like crazu to skip the intro. Once in game, in works great with sfx and music.

[manic basin]

Nah, I was at 0 for 50 with that.

I had to give it a breath to get it to load.

I mean, it may work for you. Everyone is different with this core.

[carmine kettle]

doesnt work with my blueretro receiver

[pearl tusk]

I can't run any game apart from the core and the bios I need an unstable or test version of mister😞

[devout leaf]

Glover 64 is hard to play. Mostly because of his eyes starting at me from the abyss.

[carmine kettle]

does work with original n64 controller

[quasi storm]

Did it work before?

I know the logo would show, at least.

[pearl tusk]

no, I've just been trying it, it's my first time😋

maybe it's the bios that I have is not correct 😞

[quasi storm]

Super Mario 64 needs a patch to get past the intro. Beyond that, you need a dump of the N64 puf ROM placed in your N64 games folder and named boot.rom

[carmine kettle]

@desert crow thank you, it work using original controller but it doesnt work with bluetro receiver from 8bitmod.. thank you for sharing this

[quasi storm]

Check out vampier's FAQ

[quasi storm]

Check out vampier's FAQ

https://vampier.net/N64/

Make sure the hash matches one listed there.

[zinc dew]

Thanks @desert crow, pinned your message

[carmine kettle]

@desert crow hold that though it work, i change to input mode on my controller

[compact depot]

Robby the pin head

[desert crow]

I had the apology half typed out 🙂

[carmine kettle]

i had to switch it d-input mode and it works

[pearl tusk]

Thanks

[carmine kettle]

the switch mode doesnt work

[desert crow]

good to know thanks.

[zinc dew]

Give Time Trials a shot, that’ll help you learn the courses.

[quasi storm]

Sure. There's only so much I can do to help you get started for obvious reasons. Good luck!

[zinc dew]

I was really happy to see Banjo keep my save

what an awesome core update

[weary palm]

@orchid nimbus did you see my extended N64-database.txt ?

[compact depot]

@weary palm I would love to see it

[orchid nimbus]

Sorry we have 1 administrator for the thing

Please let @bronze tree know

[weary palm]

@bronze tree @compact depot #1096015979055697940 message

[compact depot]

Thank you!

[stone pilot]

@orchid nimbus I finally set this core up for the first time, and your guide made it super easy - thanks!

[hearty oar]

I haven’t been following, any interesting new roms added to the database?

[carmine kettle]

i made it work couple of reboot the switch mode work now

[zinc dew]

It’s just the patches we’ve been using here

[primal bolt]

Vampier can you try WCW vs. nWo: World Tour?

[weary palm]

Prototype and beta stuff, Aleck64, iQue, 64DD and my own patches

[safe robin]

Worked yesterday for me

[primal bolt]

past the menu?

[safe robin]

It's just hard to get by the first menu because you can't see it

[orchid nimbus]

Sorry I don’t want a wild growth of different databases

It’s a hassle to merge and maintain

[safe robin]

You have to like press A then down and then A again

[primal bolt]

Ah... gotchya... hows it look in-game?

[safe robin]

I guess it's the memory pack message that we can't see but it's there

[primal bolt]

could also try WCW/nWo Revenge the sequel

[safe robin]

The next menu is perfectly visible after

[primal bolt]

ohh right

[safe robin]

The sequels crash immediately on boot for me

In world tour I could finish a 1 on 1 match without crash yesterday

[weary palm]

@orchid nimbus I did the merging for you.

[quasi storm]

Can't wait to see how many games wouldn't load simply because save ram was missing.

[weary palm]

I haven't added any checksums already in the db

[safe robin]

In game was pretty good already like no big glitches.

[primal bolt]

awesome

[cerulean elk]

Revengeance. Good game. I don’t remember Raiden wrestling though

[compact depot]

Joystick test roms could be added to the database right?

[weary palm]

Yes, but I don't know a single one of them that works

[primal bolt]

Raiden?

the joke is flyin over my head

[primal bolt]

ohhh that raiden

[cerulean elk]

The sequel to revenge = revengeance. Just being stupid lol

[primal bolt]

i was thinking mortal kombat

[safe robin]

Try WCW vs nwo World tour I bet you would make many people happy if you would show it in one of your videos. The aki wrestling games were the best

[primal bolt]

yes

[cerulean elk]

Is it working? I’m gonna do some captures tomorrow for Sunday

[primal bolt]

put those in the videos

[plush summit]

@primal bolt @safe robin there's already a line waiting for No Mercy/W2000 lol

[primal bolt]

the 4 THQ N64 wrestling games are the best wrestling games of all time... there is also 2 Japanese ones on the same engine

[cerulean elk]

I’ll put them in. But all I’m gonna do is spend two minutes saying how Ric Flair is my hero

[primal bolt]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[safe robin]

I played a match yesterday it's just hard to get to the main menu of the game because of a invisible game pack not found message

[mortal panther]

Gonna put a hurtin' on those for certain! Oooo yeeeeah!

[primal bolt]

As there should be. Each sequel improved upon the previous

I look forward to trying the Japanese ones cause I never really played them

but the are pre-WWF versions

[plush summit]

Hell yeah, the AKI games alone are gonna bring so much attention to this core

[primal bolt]

would be amazing if we get an option to remove the slowdown when there are 4 people in teh ring

does that 60 fps super mario 64 hack work?

[plush summit]

Were those hacks already released?

[primal bolt]

im not sure but I thought it was

[plush summit]

I stopped following, haven't checked myself 😛

[primal bolt]

yea its out

I see someone made an improved version on project64 site forum too but not sure if its good

but yea the mario 64 hack came out years ago

maybe it doesnt work on real hardware

[zinc dew]

Yeah rom hacks at this stage will be wildly hit and miss.

[primal bolt]

https://youtu.be/t_rzYnXEQlE?si=IJo3a7jDcpnSsyuc

[weary palm]

I tried a SM64 hack called UltraSM64, couldn't get it to run on MiSTer though.

[quasi storm]

Guys... Guys. Let's get the vanilla stuff working, first hmm?

[primal bolt]

lets?

[quasi storm]

(Patiently waits for the day Portal 64 is playable)

[primal bolt]

nothing wrong with discussing hacks and games

ban

[quasi storm]

Just wanna keep expectations reasonable.

[marble cargo]

I'm just waiting until it's possible to play Smash Remix in particular.

[primal bolt]

my expectations are fine

[stone pilot]

I figure MK64 Moo Moo is grey for everyone else?

[zinc dew]

lol what is you doing @orchid nimbus

[stone pilot]

the secret slide in SM64 was also pitch black, which was an interesting twist

[primal bolt]

he is being slick

[quasi storm]

Wasn't for me? Odd.

[stone pilot]

Oh interesting

[weary palm]

hacks are neat

[quasi storm]

The only map I remember having issues was Choco mountain, with a whiteish tint

[dreamy ridge]

it should be working now, i remember it was gray in an old build

[zinc dew]

As a reminder, a SNAC version of the build was shared earlier. It’s in the pins if you’d like to test.

[primal bolt]

Anyone got nice condition Grape Purple, Watermelon, Neon Green, Clear Smoke, or Gold controllers to sell or trade? I don't care what condition the stick is in

[zinc dew]

I’d reach out in https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/806024374368075776

[primal bolt]

forgot about that channel

[dreamy ridge]

i have a cherry jungle green i've been sitting on for years lol. can't sell it tho. are you gonna replace the stick or something?

[fiery grove]

if you haven't updated your MiSTer to unstable (and don't want to) try with the BigEndian bios and roms versions, that worked for me without need to install the unstable MiSTer

[primal bolt]

cherry jungle green? lol

[devout leaf]

Cherry means high quality. Like mint condition.

[primal bolt]

yea there is parts to replace the stick on klipsch-bent site. Steelsticks 64 would be better but those are impossible to get

[dreamy ridge]

i've only moved the joystick a few times, it feels like i pulled it out of a wormhole from 1998 🤣

[primal bolt]

lol

[cerulean elk]

Still the N64s best game

[primal bolt]

not from what I can tell

best soundtrack maybe

[dreamy ridge]

japanese n64 boxes are so rad

[primal bolt]

but ill be playing that game and beating it when its perfect in the core

[cerulean elk]

I have a full set for the US games but I kinda wanted the Japanese set. Stupid cheap..$77 shipped. With Japanese guidebooks for 64 and 64 2

[dreamy ridge]

wow that's a spectacular deal. are japanese retro game prices not as bananas as they have become over here?

[brisk edge]

depends

a lot of games are cheap

but there's still plenty of rare stuff

lots of rpgs that would be very expensive here are pretty cheap there

but yeah something like Bomberman 64 2 is considerably cheaper

and it's much easier to find CIB

[cerulean elk]

Bundles are always cheap if the games aren’t rare

Four complete in box games and two guide books. $77. A complete US Bomberman Hero runs around $90 on eBay. So if I want I can sell that ONE game and end up with $13 and four games

I often change out expensive US region stuff for Japanese if it’s not text heavy

[viscid nebula]

How much are deez nuts tho

[cerulean elk]

Tree fiddy

[viscid nebula]

Goddamn loch ness

[cerulean elk]

Loch Ness Nuts

[viscid nebula]

🤣

[mortal apex]

It can happen when you load mario 64 before mario kart iirc. @stone pilot rebooting the core might fix it.

[devout leaf]

Random game jam game is running about perfect. That’s neat.

Dungeon chess…puzzler

[weary palm]

I think I understand why so many homebrew games doesn't work. They don't update the Display Lists.

[primal bolt]

I love chess... ill have to try that one

[devout leaf]

https://n64squid.com/wizard-of-the-board/

Nothing real complicated but a fun little puzzler.

[primal bolt]

thanks

[dreamy ridge]

that's interesting, it's totally possible i tried mario64 directly before mk64 when i saw it last week

so happy to be running around in the world of banjo kazooie again too 🥹

[zinc dew]

It’s a very pleasant game

I can’t wait for the N64 core to get bilinear filtering and anti aliasing so all you pixel loving heathens can suffer!

[weary palm]

It won't feel like an N64 until we get the filters 🙂

[lament escarp]

Thank you for having the courage to say what the silent majority thinks 🙏

[mild ether]

Vivid Dolls is sadly still a no go situation. 😞

[devout leaf]

Imagine playing N64 and not wanting it to look like an N64

[zinc dew]

couldn’t be us

[mild ether]

I mean it's kinda why I want a MiSTer core and not to play it on original hardware.

It does look a little bit like ass on a modern display.

[devout leaf]

I want a Mister core so I can retire my N64 and not have to get cables or an HDMI mod. Because I don't want to cut the case or micro solder.

[zinc dew]

Yes exactly that

[mild ether]

I would like to sell my N64 and Everdrive when it's complete.

[zinc dew]

I wish I got an Everdrive

[fair stump]

The real silent majority wants no filter and forced wide-screen on everything

[orchid nimbus]

@weary palm I'm home now instead of on the phone - the database was created by Markun by picking the first 4096 bytes of a ROM and then merging this with the correct settings. I rather have 1 point of truth than several points of truth - having that said I appreceate the work you put into this and it will make the core experience better.

as with any database we might want to keep the thing updated with new homebrew etc.

[zinc dew]

Lol you’re probably right but they don’t have MiSTers!

[devout leaf]

I'll sell you mine lol. It's just stopping dust from entering my N64 right now.

I can probably do that with a towel lol

[zinc dew]

my problem is that I ended up buying most of the library

[weary palm]

@orchid nimbus it would help the community if Markun would like to share his sources for said data. The save type, rumble and control pak data, that is.

[orchid nimbus]

https://romdb.vampier.net/index.php?show=644

[weary palm]

I used mupen64plus.ini for that

[orchid nimbus]

if there would be only a person who is used creating databases like this

hmmmmm

[weary palm]

I wish there was such a person

[lament escarp]

Og hardware is cool and all, but it can be a bitch to set up properly and I wouldn't trust it to be around for the next couple of decades. So I'm really happy it gets immortalized in fpga.

[devout leaf]

So after the N64 core we see if Robert has nostalgia for the PS2?

[zinc dew]

Don’t think that one is possible anytime soon

The real limitation with FPGAs isn’t hardware but manpower

I mean hardware is a pretty big one though lol

[lament escarp]

Maybe a redo of snes with savestates.

[brisk drum]

Shieeet I gotta try this

A chess based dungeon crawler with todays tech and foresight would be sick af

[zinc dew]

Do you?

[devout leaf]

It's pretty fun and short. First few levels are easy but it picks up decently.

But you can fully play it on the core with no graphical or sound issues.

[devout leaf]

Honestly I didn't think PS1 would play but here we are lol. SNES with save states would be nice.

[dreamy ridge]

what is the reason the snes core doesn't have save states?

[lament escarp]

I think it's a very good thing to run out of viable consoles possible. After that it either turns to polish regarding the existing cores, expansion to new hardware or the project falls asleep imo.

[versed cairn]

robert hasn't had the time

bigger fish to fry

[mild ether]

Goddamn I would love a PS2 FPGA implementation. Very unlikely to happen but damn.

[versed cairn]

correct me if I'm wrong but robert has implemented all the save states on mister

[fair stump]

How many roberts would it take to make a ps2 core

[devout leaf]

Two. One to make it and the other to handle the channel's memes.

[mild ether]

Like a T1000 version of Robert.

[zinc dew]

|| virtual boy 👀 ||

[mild ether]

3DO?

[devout leaf]

Imagine a Virtual Boy SNAX adapter for that terrible two D-Pad controller

So great

[lament escarp]

Let me screenshot this for in 5 years, when the ps2 core for the misterer releases, done by 1 robert. 😄

[mild ether]

Still got a Vitual Boy.

Thought one day it would be worth something and one day never came.

[zinc dew]

|| one is coming 👀 ||

[versed cairn]

Apple Pippin when?

[zinc dew]

|| never 👀 ||

[graceful radish]

I love the Virtual Boy controller!

[mild ether]

Well.. You know if someone made a core for PowerPC maybe.

[graceful radish]

Great for all twin stick games

[zinc dew]

|| me too, can’t wait to buy it from you when you sell it 👀 ||

[devout leaf]

Great controller if you're a fan of large handles.

It did do the back buttons before anyone else I think

[graceful radish]

It feels better in the hand than any Sony controller I’ve held

[devout leaf]

I'm hoping the Saturn ones are still in stock in a few weeks. Can't spend anything with a surgery coming up.

[ocean lily]

NSO VirtualBoy controller sold out in perpetuity in 0.03 seconds after launch

[graceful radish]

There is a NSO virtual boy controller?

[devout leaf]

I think they mean if they make one

[ocean lily]

https://www.amazon.com/Retro-Bit-Official-Sega-Saturn-Bluetooth-Controller/dp/B07XVCGPST?ref_=ast_sto_dp

great saturn controller, but kinda looks like they quit making the wireless ones

[devout leaf]

Not circular enough.

[hearty oar]

It’s…ok. Mine is pretty flimsy and I had to replace the switches in the shoulders after they stopped working

Prefer the m30

[weary beacon]

I don't trust Retro-Bit. I hear their controllers stop working after like 3 months

[iron dove]

Just hooked up my NSO controller, working great over USB. Thanks heaps Shig

and of course Robert and markun 🙂

[ocean lily]

my experience with retro-bit has been pretty great so far, but I generally prefer 8bitdo

but not all 8bitdo controllers are Bluetooth and/or have a home button, and I like a home button to launch the menus on MiSTer

I don't want a dozen different 2.4ghz dongles that all look identical

[iron dove]

@hearty oar would your improvements like deadzone apply if connected by an 8bitdo receiver, or 'just' to usb/bluetooth?

[orchid nimbus]

maybe the MiSTer needs a calibration tool

[brisk drum]

Bro im just saying .. you ever start an indi studio .. you gotta fund my dungeon chess crawlers

[iron dove]

I havnt tried it, have one for using with a switch. I'll probably stick with USB but dont have a bluetooth dongle atm so just wondered

[zinc dew]

Yeah I was kidding, it does sound really cool

[brisk drum]

I think the concept has mad potential dawg

I’m street fighting .. ain’t doing nuffin but street fighting till the locals