#ASCII - MSX

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fallen summit
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since it's impossible to switch disk images at runtime

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to switch disks hold 1 /2 /3 /4 (etc) and push space.. it will then select the disk numbers

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that's it... that's all

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most of this information is common knowledge with MSX users - but in case it wasn't... well here it is

tribal mountain
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That's awesome. Thanks for sharing all of that.

fallen summit
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selecting game master is built into sofarun btw

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instead of loading go to settings and add game master

karmic rover
fallen summit
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yup

karmic rover
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it is interesting I was thinking with the v9990 have all previous vdp features so it is better to use V9990 just for games required it.

kindred ermine
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Can’t remember, did they delid an r800 as well?

fallen summit
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yes they did

fallen summit
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the 240p test suite for the MSX will also have an MSX2 version 😄

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Preview from the creator

karmic rover
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Great 👍

karmic rover
fallen summit
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oh finally!!!

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it's done on the goodmsx version of this game

karmic rover
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Thank you 👍

coarse ravine
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woohoo! I love SMT and this is the more obscure game that never panned out sequels

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its based off the original story that SMT used as very loose inspiration

slim stirrup
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So SMT is based on a series of novels?

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I had no idea

ebon knoll
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there was even 6 more novels written by the author after megaten was adapted into games

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the first two Digital Devil Story books have been fan translated if you look around

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the rest not so much

coarse ravine
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yes the Megami Tensei (first ones) stuck close to the novels, but the "Shin" games (and everything after) were more of a loose inspiration

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there is also a Japanese OVA of the first novel

bright rock
coarse ravine
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the Foot version are the games that stink

rain viper
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Is the MSX game sufficiently different from tge NES one that it makes sense to play both?

karmic rover
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From Wikipedia "The version for personal computers (PC) is an action role-playing game which plays from a top-down perspective. Controlling Nakajima, the player explores the labyrinthine levels of a dungeon populated by enemies. Combat plays out in real time, with Nakajima fighting demons using both short-range melee attacks and ranged magic attacks. Each section of the dungeon ends in a powerful boss encounter.[2]["

coarse ravine
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totally different gsmes

fallen summit
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I knew these existed

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the screenshot is from Gallforce which uses the magic key

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I've never seen a picture of it though

fallen summit
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MSX in space!!!

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Yes it’s a Sony

bright rock
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MSX isn't good

bright rock
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MSX is great!!!

tribal mountain
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I can't believe there's a gif of this movie

bright rock
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LOL @fallen summit

fallen summit
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^_^

bright rock
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loooool

fallen summit
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I knew you were reading 😄

bright rock
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you fell for my trap!

fallen summit
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what trap?

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Well it looks like we're going to have a small group of mister users in one space on the 17th

fallen summit
sudden kite
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too bad I already took a vacation 😦

fallen summit
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0-o

cyan plinth
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Er this year now I guess

fallen summit
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I just go down the street for this one

low barn
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Because why not, Big Buck Bunny playing on MSX core (OCM this time)

fallen summit
zealous pine
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@fallen summit Following on from the conversation in the Saturn channel. I’d like to learn more about the MSX/give it a go. I noticed there are two MSX cores on the MiSTer - what’s the difference, and how does their accuracy compared to e.g OpenMSX? 🙂

fallen summit
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one core is based on the One Chip MSX (OCM) and only support VHD

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the other core is made by @craggy iris who used the OCM as a base initially

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the official core is limited to MSX1 only and works great

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the beta core supports MSX2 but @craggy iris has switched priorities and the core development is on hold for now

zealous pine
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Are they not both official cores?

fallen summit
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here is a fun write up on the MSX2 core

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yes

zealous pine
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Ha, thanks! I’ll give it a read

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Sorry so spam you 🙂

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To*

fallen summit
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well spam you too 😄

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lol

zealous pine
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Okay, so… just checking I get it:

  • MSX_MiSTer is the original core based on OCM, and is basically “complete” and supports MSX1 & 2, but is a less convenient because it’s VHD only.
  • MSX1_MiSTer is a newer core which is based on OCM, and benefits from being more convenient, but doesn’t support all of the features (e.g. MIDI?) of the above core, and is MSX1 only.
  • Since then, Molekula has added MSX 2 support to the MSX1_MiSTer repo (same advantages as the MSX1_MiSTer core) but is still in beta so not complete? Need to get it from the GitHub branch rather than installing via update_all.
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So if you’re not scared of using VHDs and a bit more setup: MSX_MiSTer is the most “complete”, albeit less convenient. And if you’re not scared of using beta software and want the convenience, it’s better to use the beta from the msx2 branch of the MSX1_MiSTer repo?

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And if you’re not averse to software emulators, OpenMSX is the way to go? 😉

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And I guess, assuming infinite dev time etc, the ambition would be for the beta msx2 branch of the MSX1_MiSTer repo to get merged into main/master, at which point it would/could probably replace the MSX_MiSTer core, in the same way the NukedMD core “replaced” the old Genesis core?

fallen summit
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good summary

zealous pine
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Awesome, thanks for checking I didn’t get it wrong. Now to dig into the game library 😄

rain viper
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I thought that MSX1 is not based on OCM.

fallen summit
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@rain viper the underlying FGPA components are for the biggest part

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as far as I understood it

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oh wait... I think you're right

sudden kite
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what's OCM

fallen summit
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one chip msx

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HRA and KDL are working on that one

fallen summit
low barn
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Have fun there, mate 🙂

bright rock
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Do you think the name MSX was a hint at the future? Microsoft + Sega = Xbox?

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🤯

sudden kite
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no

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Microsoft couldn't care less about MSX imho

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it was just another home computer platform that they sold their MS BASIC and MS DOS to

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they had a bigger fish to fry (IBM PC and its ecosystem)

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or were actually already frying

bright rock
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MSX ❤️

sudden kite
fallen summit
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Quite a lot of mister discord users showed up

spiral berry
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This vintage show in the states or EU?

fallen summit
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US

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Orange County

coarse ravine
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nice. wish I can go there one day too

tribal mountain
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What cool looking hardware. Hope everyone had fun.

cyan plinth
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I've already requested time off at work for VCF Midwest this year. I won't miss it again.

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I think it's gotten so big that it's technically separate from the other VCFs in the nation. Not sure.

bright rock
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That sounds awesome. I’m a vintage computer noob but I love checking out classic hardware.

kindred ermine
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There were some pretty cool computers at vcfsw. Always fun to see what people manage to lug around to the cons.

tribal mountain
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I know people make shitty jokes about nerd conventions but they've always been some of most chill experiences I've ever had. Way different energy than big concert festivals which have similar turnouts.

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I've never been to really small focused ones but things like Comic Cons and PAX were always fun to me.

fallen summit
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apparently the gentleman is not in the loop on the MSX scene - which is funny because he was using a funny ROM collection that looked very familiar 😄

fallen summit
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aka they didn't know who I was 😄

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people in Brasil know who I am .... lol

kindred ermine
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Vcfsw, yes. Glad that it restarted. Looking forward to the one this year too.

fallen summit
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you missed out on our meeting then

sudden kite
rapid tide
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I care and think it's better than Colecovision

fallen summit
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MSX1 = Colecovision

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the Colecovision adam can hold it's own against an MSX2

serene condor
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anyone know of msx turbo core?

fallen summit
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there is non - released

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if you mean turbo-r

bright rock
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@fallen summit whatever happened to that new MSX core?

fallen summit
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no clue

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#1056033525922537542 message

sudden kite
fallen summit
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naturalized citizen

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it depends who you ask if I'm an American

sudden kite
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Makes sense 🙂

sudden kite
fallen summit
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well... that used to be a loaded question.....

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but I was born in the Netherlands

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lived there for 26 years

sudden kite
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I've heard that MSX was very popular there

fallen summit
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it's not like I never said this before 🙂

sudden kite
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Haha right

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I think that was because of Philips?

fallen summit
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yup

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I grew up close to Eindhoven

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Eindhoven (Dutch: [ˈɛintˌɦoːvə(n)] ; literally "Last Hooves") is a city and municipality of the Netherlands, located in the southern province of North Brabant of which it is its largest and is also located in the Dutch part of the natural region the Campine. With a population of 238,326 on 1 January 2022, it is the fifth-largest city of the Neth...

sudden kite
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would love to visit it one day

serene condor
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What happened to the MSX Turbo-R core?

fallen summit
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it was never released

serene condor
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why??!

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Is there at least an alpha version or some usueable version a person can play with the core?

fallen summit
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no

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it was never released

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the guy who made it kept it to himself

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openmsx runs the turbo-r just fine

serene condor
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LOL!

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So the guy who made it kept it to himself refusing to share it with others?

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Nice! I salute him!

fallen summit
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yup

serene condor
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Well...he can keep it

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I don't give attention for people like that.

bright rock
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He’s also free to do whatever he wants with what he makes. He has no obligation to share.

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But sharing is caring and through positive reinforcement we can encourage those types to open up and engage with the community.

sudden kite
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Who made it?

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The same person who made the x68k core?

fallen summit
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HRA

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it might be released

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but keep in mind that his priority is OCM comparability... no obligation towards the MiSTer community

sudden kite
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Hmmm understandable

coarse ravine
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tried a "real" OCM recently; pretty neat, but I have no carts for the MSX (nor any joysticks to the MSX standard)

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so I don't have a lot of use for it over what I have already on MiST or MiSTer

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(it felt like using the MiST core)

sudden kite
coarse ravine
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I was just borrowing it🤣

sudden kite
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haha alright

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I have tons of MSX cartridges

coarse ravine
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I thought about getting one instead of an MSX, but so far not much use for it

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I'd have to get a Carnivore for the MSX

sudden kite
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and a few gamepads and joysticks

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even an MSX printer

sudden kite
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most likely I'll have to upgrade the firmware on it, somehow :/

coarse ravine
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if it's like the OCM you will need to use a 2GB FAT16 partition

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I had to reformat an SD card for it to work

sudden kite
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I think it is called Nextor

coarse ravine
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oh yeah Nextor; I didn't manage to install it

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I found a great Spanish archive of MSX1 games - including top list of recent homebrew from MSXdev and Spanish forums

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those communities seem very active

sudden kite
coarse ravine
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MSX1 Pack 3.0

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looks like they have a MSX2 Pack 1.0 now too

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easy to find on google

sudden kite
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oh I was thinking about file hunter

fallen summit
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@honest fractal where do you think filehunter gets his archives from?

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^_^

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we work together - I process them through the ROMDB and I create an archive of curated roms and a dump of all non commercial available ones

sudden kite
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I think they are Dutch too?

fallen summit
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TFH|Fony aka FileHunter aka Arnaud is indeed Dutch

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if you see a rom that ends in [1234] (or a different number) it means it's been vetter through the ROMDB

sudden kite
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Should I get the USB?

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It would be nice if you create something like it but on an SD card for the carnivore 2 😁

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Plug and play

fallen summit
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so here is a preview of the new openMSX

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you can kick catapult to the curb

stray reef
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Does the MSX1 core work well? Since I recently updated the MiSTer FPGA, I have noticed that the MSX1 core is not working and the keyboard and controller are not working. I think it has something to do with linux update.

fallen summit
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dunno - haven't tried it for a while

fallen summit
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openmsx since today

fallen summit
fallen summit
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here is the page itself

copper prawn
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can you play multiplayer online in any games or not? XD

fallen summit
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no

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very limited speed

low barn
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unless BBS hosted ones, I guess ?

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like Legend of Red Dragon and the likes

fallen summit
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funny - people really seem to like the capability of connecting openMSX to the internet

spark jacinth
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i wonder how frequently they use it. i like the novelty of doing this sort of thing once then i end up not using it again hehe

fallen summit
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that's exactly it

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there are enthausiasts out there that love this stuff @spark jacinth

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@low barn for example is obsessed with connecting everything to the internet 😄

karmic rover
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off topic but Mame shows first sign of FS-A1ST

fallen summit
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wasn't MESS part of mame now?

karmic rover
fallen summit
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Sean Young merged that with MAME a long time ago

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so it should already have worked

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new game today: Mandarin2 - Mananuk (2024) [original]

fallen summit
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this is a message to keep channel alive

zealous pine
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[This channel is intentionally left blank.]

fallen summit
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with the N64 development cycle coming to an end it's time to switch to an MSX project

sudden kite
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emulate all possible combinations of MSX machines

fallen summit
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Illusion City

serene condor
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Yeeeeeeeeessssssssss!!

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We want MSX turbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fallen summit
serene condor
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Ok….I want MSX turbo and rely on other people’s hard work to make it possible for me, while I sit on the coach and eat chips. But still….

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Soooooooooo

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Cute!

fallen summit
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yup - was creating avatars for the test server

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this one was one I created as a joke

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Illusion City main character

serene condor
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Aaaaah!!! ❤️😍❤️😍

fallen summit
serene condor
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I wanna hug him!!!! Giant teddy bear bear!!

fallen summit
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lol

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bigger gun!!

serene condor
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Heheh

fallen summit
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now he looks more like Gillian Seed

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and this version won't put up with your shit

serene condor
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Be cared with a face like that there will be no more women for the rest of us

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Loool

fallen summit
serene condor
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Aaaah gen-z

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Too feminine/boyish

serene condor
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Do you do pixel art?

fallen summit
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no

serene condor
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Ooh

fallen summit
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not this time

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AI

serene condor
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Amazing how a sentence can be finalized with just two letters @_o

fallen summit
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ja

serene condor
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😂

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I am addicted to the sound of ‘ja’-deep sigh-

fallen summit
serene condor
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What is this? Can someone explain?

fallen summit
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It’s a drawing of something called the v9958

kindred ermine
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More specifically, it is demonstrating that work is being done to reverse engineering the actual inner workings of that microchip by taking one apart and using a microscope to get a large, clear picture of the inside

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You can see the beginnings of the reverse engineering by the overlaid colored lines

shy marsh
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What's the best up to date MSX VHD image and rom set? Could someone DM me a few links? Thanks!

fallen summit
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Hmmmmm nosferatuMSX in some archive

fallen summit
serene condor
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Is that the intention to turn it into a core?

kindred ermine
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The intention is to have an “exact” version of the chip. As Vampier said above, the person doing this has already made discoveries that previous higher level reverse engineering approaches have missed.

naive dagger
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MSX2+ and Turbo R VDP?

kindred ermine
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Yep

naive dagger
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It would be great to see a more complete core with direct file loading for games

kindred ermine
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Need r800 for turbo r though

naive dagger
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The new core made a lot of progress early on

kindred ermine
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Would like to see a v9990 too

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Even if it never made it into an msx

naive dagger
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Aren't there a few wacky games for MSX Turbo R that require extra processors from an add-on cart, can use extra sound carts, etc.
One is like a Golden Axe-style hack & slash?

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I remember seeing pics and the description made it sound like it really needed Frankenstein MSX tech

kindred ermine
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Lots of cool expansions, like the v9990 and some cool fm carts

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Konami carts had the scc chip built in

naive dagger
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Yeah, but I mean way later after the line had ended, like fancy doujin game

kindred ermine
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Yeah, I still think you are remembering the v9990

naive dagger
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Anyway, I still kind of want this kit

kindred ermine
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I regret never buying a gr8net. Not likely to get one now

kindred ermine
naive dagger
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From something I read, my understanding is that the Turbo R was originally meant to have more SNES-style graphics and got scaled back
So now you can add various carts and kind of fake it

kindred ermine
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It isn’t faking it, the v9990 was the next evolution of the vdp: https://www.msx.org/wiki/Yamaha_V9990

naive dagger
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Yeah plus it uses Moonsound

sudden kite
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I thought the graphics in Turbo R look visually similar to the games found ins SNES and Gensis?

naive dagger
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Nope

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Those consoles can do smooth scrolling and multilayered backgrounds easily

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Turbo R would be more like a fancy SMS

fallen summit
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Kai magazine stuff is programmed in basic - and full with mistakes as far as I saw

slim stirrup
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Watching some video and I'd totally play it but it would be cool if it could run a little faster/look a bit smoother

naive dagger
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Yeah the movement is super choppy

fallen summit
serene condor
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Can an MSX 2 be expanded to mimic MSX turbo r with multiple cartridges?

fallen summit
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Sure - but it won’t be a real MSX anymore

kindred ermine
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Was there an r800 expansion cartridge?

fallen summit
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no

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v9900 / opl4 (moonsound)

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the v9900 doesn't pipe back to the MSX and just has a separate video out - all processing is on the cart

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moonsound uses the cart audio in to pipe audio back but doesn't take processing

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anything beyond that would be too slow on an 3.58mhz msx

kindred ermine
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Hmm, I never did get an opl4 expansion

fallen summit
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not missing much

naive dagger
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fallen summit
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yeah grauw has worked with valleybell and the openMSX team to make the sound as accurate as possible for all these weird chips

naive dagger
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Darn, I don't see that insane SMS/SID cart on their shop now
But this seems new?
https://shop.supersoniqs.com/en/home/103-robby-msx-voice-module.html

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ROBBY

fallen summit
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Nope - not new

fallen summit
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@bright rock is never new but always fresh 😉

bright rock
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I ❤️ Multiplying Seven Xylophones

fallen summit
fallen summit
fallen summit
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live streams from Nijmegen MSX meetup

copper prawn
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i've been to nijmegen

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it was a busy place. noisy.

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and you couldn't really go anywhere. i had to watch my step. but i got out of there alive.

fallen summit
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Got chased by communists?

copper prawn
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no, i was playing medal of honor: frontlines on ps2

fallen summit
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@copper prawn you went a bridge too far

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darn operation market garden

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(I never played the game but I know my WW2 history for the region)

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Operation Market Garden was an Allied military operation during the Second World War fought in the German-occupied Netherlands from 17 to 25 September 1944. Its objective was to create a 64 mi (103 km) salient into German territory with a bridgehead over the Nederrijn (Lower Rhine River), creating an Allied invasion route into northern Germany. ...

copper prawn
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that's the first operation mentioned after d-day in any documentary

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but i spotted a norwegian operation in a new commandos origins trailer - vemork

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i reckognized the location

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the heavy water sabotation

fallen summit
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the whole region from where I am from has so many war memorials

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every village/town has at least 1

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This one is in Eerde but it's part of the same municipality

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this one is in Son (yes it's a village name close to Eindhoven)

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I was there for the 50 year anniversary of the liberation and they went from Eindhoven > Son > Sint Oedenrode > Veghel > Uden > Zeeland > Grave > Nijmegen

copper prawn
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if putin wins in ukraine, we'll have failed the ww2 liberators

fallen summit
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it's an always changing dynamic in the world - conquer and take over is name of the game

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defeat and enslave is another

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just becasuse it's relativly quiet since the end of ww2 in Europe doesn't mean that shit isn't bad

cyan horizon
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Damn USA, I hope they go into civil war mode and stop f**ing europe

copper prawn
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oh and also... cuba

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lol

fallen summit
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NATO was create to never have shit happen again - but I guess the status quo cannot be mainteined

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@cyan horizon / @copper prawn do you guys feel like we have entered a point of no return with Russia?

cyan horizon
fallen summit
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Ukraine as a buffer zone

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@cyan horizon well every super power flexes it's muscles - Russia/China/US/Europe

cyan horizon
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Ukraine was supposed to be neutral to the NATO and to the Russia/China block

fallen summit
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they all do the same

copper prawn
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putin has made it clear he won't stop and i agree with those who say he wouldn't stop AFTER ukraine. and i don't see a world where the west will ever allow him to win so who knows how this will end.

cyan horizon
fallen summit
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"Si vis pacem, para bellum"

cyan horizon
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USA go home! Leave Europe alone!!! USA is the problem here, always has been

fallen summit
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we've seen what the US does in the middle east

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I'm not even going into that whole Israel stuff - at this point that situation is just fucked up beyond any sanity

copper prawn
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do you understand the message we send to dictators around the world and for decades to come if we let putin win?

cyan horizon
cyan horizon
copper prawn
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i don't disagree if you claim the CIA started it.. i'm talking about how it ends

cyan horizon
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CIA and NATO expansions are USA tools to destabilize countries, damn USA bastards did the same for more than a century now

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I repeat: Russia has ZERO interest on invading another countries, they all wanted is neutral Ukrainie as it should have remained.
And they need that because stinky NATO missiles are too near to Russia if Ukraine joins the f**ing NATO.

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USA started this, USA should pay for this.

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But they won't: they want us europeans to fight their war, as always. Another USA proxy war, now in europe.

fallen summit
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the CIA is even stirring shit inside the US

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@cyan horizon it might be closer than you think

cyan horizon
# fallen summit the CIA is even stirring shit inside the US

If you are european, and I believe you are, keep yourself away from the incoming war: it's NOT our war, we should be doing business with Russia as we were doing. This is an USA-created war for their interests in Ukrainie and Russia (resources)

copper prawn
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did you listen to putin's tucker carlson interview at all

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putin did like a forty hour tirade about how ukraine was part of russia a thousand years ago

fallen summit
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it started back in 187 bc

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lol

copper prawn
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he wants to restore the old and that involves TAKING LAND

fallen summit
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Putin made Cucker Carlson his bitch

cyan horizon
# copper prawn did you listen to putin's tucker carlson interview at all

Yes I did. He has ZERO interest in conquering anything: he wants neutral Ukrainie and that's about it. Since NATO expanded, he needs to justify the invasion. That's all. I HOPE Ukrainie remains neutral (or russian, so Russia cities are far enough from NATO lines) and we don't have to go in a war against Russia.

copper prawn
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vanafel seems pretty upset about america

cyan horizon
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And I hope they don't get away with this euro-russian war thing

fallen summit
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@cyan horizon was really vicious a year or so ago when I talked about @craggy iris's MSX core and thought I wanted to have it turned into an openMSX dream machine 🙂 @cyan horizon is very passionate about things 😄

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@cyan horizon your nickis also really close to my last name 😛

cyan horizon
copper prawn
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i served my one year in the artillery in norway in 2001. after our conscription of a year in norway, some of us are put in the reserves who train once a year. i was thankfully NOT included in that and haven't touched a rifle in 23 years and seeing how our leaders behave and treat us, i have no interest in fighting anybody's war. i'd rather go to jail.

fallen summit
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I never was in the army nor in the reserves

copper prawn
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they made me corporal

cyan horizon
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@fallen summit Anybody trying to make you accept a war bewteen Europe and Russia is trying to use you as cannon fodder. Keep away from bastards trying to fight for THEIR interests.

fallen summit
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I moved to the US after I turned 26 - so I didn't have to do selective service

copper prawn
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they can gear up and go fight themselves

cyan horizon
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War in a videogame is a thing: the misery and pain and horror of real war, is something I hope I NEVER get to experience.

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You won't see USA dead bodies if war begins. You will see european dead bodies. And the gas and resource business that will benefit will be from the USA too.

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We would put the bodies and the flesh: they will get the money.

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So please never, NEVER defend an european-russia war. That's no game.

copper prawn
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yeah, let's have no european country defend themselves if russia should attack

cyan horizon
#

Enough. Keep away from being recruited. I for one won't be dying for any country, I can tell you that.

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That's the only thing I want to make clean here.

copper prawn
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my brother is in the reserves and would get called out i think

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i can't help but picture a bigger conflict in the coming years and i'm not going near it

fallen summit
#

the US has too many warhawks

cyan horizon
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Warhawks are tools, too.

copper prawn
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i can't believe this discussion survived without robby interfering in OUR business

bright rock
#

holy shit, @copper prawn can be serious???

copper prawn
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get outta here bro

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it's war time

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it ain't disneyland

bright rock
#

Let's keep politics talk in #spicy-off-topic please

copper prawn
#

that's ok brother, you're forty minutes late and the war is over

fallen summit
#

it was a plot for the new Metal Gear MSX game @bright rock - Kojima plot twist, we were ontopic all this time! 😄

bright rock
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lol

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I still haven’t played Metal Gear MSX

copper prawn
#

okay then ban yourself from the channel you poser

copper prawn
#

posery poo. that's youuu

bright rock
#

I kept most of your comments and perspective intact out of respect, just a few comments that crossed the line I removed. If you disagree or are upset please reach out to myself or the admin team.

cyan horizon
#

You do a great job as a moderator, thanks for what you do!

bright rock
# cyan horizon You do a great job as a moderator, thanks for what you do!

You’re are entirely too kind. I don’t know if this helps but I care about your concerns and I wish I could do something to improve that situation. We’re in different countries but we’re friends all the same. Thank you for being patient with me.

I also deleted my original comment as to not serve as an interruption to this wonderful chat. Thank you @fallen summit for keeping the MSX love going.

copper prawn
#

you removed SOME of the comments thereby changing the artists original intent

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you did a DEMAKE of the chat

cyan horizon
cyan horizon
fallen summit
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I was doing some digging in the hypersports 2 cart

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this is weird

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bullet sprite - square sprites and then 100/500/1000 and the 3 faces

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but anything after that is... weird

fallen summit
#

I also wonder if Hot-B didn't make Gryzor for the MSX

copper prawn
naive dagger
#

I really like their shooter on Famicom called Over Horizon

fallen summit
#

mon mon monster is the game above

naive dagger
#

Ahh yes

tribal mountain
#

lol, wtf has been going on in this channel

bright rock
tribal mountain
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A discussion to rival Metal Gear for sure.

fallen summit
#

Oh just MSX user style discussions / things here are relatively tame

slim stirrup
tribal mountain
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If the Rebels hadn't aligned with the Rebel Alliance, maybe the Emperor, who never wanted to invade anyone, wouldn't have had to blow up Alderran

rain viper
#

Because doing X meets your goal doesn't mean you "had" to do it.

tribal mountain
#

Opinions differ, apparently.

fallen summit
#
10 SCREEN1:COLOR15,0,0
100 DATA 00011000
110 DATA 00011000
120 DATA 01000000
130 DATA 01111110
140 DATA 00011010
150 DATA 00011010
160 DATA 00111100
170 DATA 00100100
180 '
190 DATA 00011000
200 DATA 00011000
210 DATA 00000010
220 DATA 01111110
230 DATA 01011000
240 DATA 01011000
250 DATA 00111100
260 DATA 00100100
265 FORI=0TO64:X=INT(RND(TIME*10)*30):Y=INT(RND(TIME*10)*20):LOCATEX,Y:PRINT"a":NEXT I
266 LOCATE10,10:PRINT"HETE DANS ACTIE"
270 RESTORE100:FORI=0TO7:READA$:VPOKE776+I,VAL("&b"+A$):NEXT
271 FORI=0TO500:NEXT
280 RESTORE190:FORI=0TO7:READA$:VPOKE776+I,VAL("&b"+A$):NEXT
281 FORI=0TO500:NEXT
290 GOTO 270
cyan horizon
spark jacinth
#

Jokes are allowed on this server.

Sincerely,
The Mod Team.

fallen summit
#

you obviously are not 😄

serene condor
#

Hey @fallen summit can you write a code in MSX of boulderdash firefly animated?

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In basic of course

fallen summit
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huh

serene condor
#

An example

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That square is firefly

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. o O (Pray he is coding)

weak atlas
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Do you expect him to code for free ?

serene condor
#

Umm. Well….yeah!

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Get to it!! - flicks the whip -

fallen summit
#

yeah you can write that easily

fallen summit
#

there is one with 5 colors

serene condor
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

#

-- HUGS @fallen summit --

#

People!! Everyone!! I.....LOVE......THAT.......BRAIN!!

fallen summit
#

it's just basic

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and a palette swap

serene condor
#

Still!

fallen summit
#
100 CLEAR:COLOR15,7,7
110 SCREEN 5:SETPAGE1,1:CLS
120 COLOR=(7,0,0,0)
130 FORI=0TO4 STEP 1
140 LINE(I*2,I*2)-(18-(I*2),18-(I*2)),I,BF
150 NEXT
160 DIM R,G,B
170 DATA 7,7,7
180 DATA 6,3,0
190 DATA 6,1,0
200 DATA 4,0,0
210 DATA 0,0,0
220 FORI=0TO10
230 X=INT(RND(TIME)*16)
240 Y=INT(RND(TIME)*8)
250 COPY(0,0)-(18,18)TO (X*18,Y*18)
260 NEXT
270 FORI=0TO4:READ RC,GC,BC:R(I)=RC:G(I)=GC:B(I)=BC:NEXTI
280 FORI=0TO4:COLOR=(4-CMOD4,R(I),G(I),B(I)):C=C+1:NEXT
285 IFC>20THENC=0
290 GOTO 280```
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170-210 is the palette

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220-260 duplicates the square at random locations

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280 puts the colors in a loop

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285 prevents an int overflow

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130-150 is where the triangle gets drawn

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I could optimize this a lot

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but this is good enough

#

waiting for data at work so I had some downtime

serene condor
#

I love it

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Your fireflies is even more beautiful than the original game

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I would so pay you to make a boulderdash on msx basic haha

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heheh I saved the source code into dsk format

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fireflies is my biggest reason why I fell in love with boulderdash. I love that square!! - wipes eyes -

fallen summit
#

lol

#

I forgot about webmsx

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on line 20 replace that 10 with 50

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you get 50 squares

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assuming nothing is drawn ontop of eachother

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😄

serene condor
#

AAAAAAAAAAH SQUARES SQUARES SQUARES

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eeeeeee!!! - hugs them -

fallen summit
#

.... you're obsessed lol

serene condor
#

I fell in love with them since I was a child when I first played boulder dash

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Ever since then I have been stuck playing this game as an adult

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all because of that square haha

fallen summit
fallen summit
#

just posting stuff once a while to keep the channel active

#

new sofarun

kindred ermine
#

when a copy of mario sells for 1M and a copy of sd snatcher sells for 1K, shows you the quality of sd snatcher 😄

fallen summit
#

oh... the yen isn't 1/10 anymore

#

it's closer to 1/20

kindred ermine
#

hmm, time to import a few computers 😄

violet knoll
#

Any news from molekula? Just to see if he gave any news

fallen summit
#

he's still busy with life and family

violet knoll
fallen summit
spark hamlet
#

what madness

fallen summit
#

I never knew this was possible PUT SPRITE 0,(0,192),15,ASC(chr$(65))

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not my code

serene condor
#

Aaah!! Sssoooo relaxing and white noise

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I love the famous MSX beeping noise

fallen summit
#

I did some digging in SD Snatcher

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during the game the video page is swapping between 0 and 1

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drawing is done extremely fast

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during text the video page is halted on video page 1

copper prawn
#

nobody's replying to you in here. it's so sad.

fallen summit
#

You will own nothing

copper prawn
fallen summit
#

nope

fallen summit
#

if this was my work it would have worked

bright rock
naive dagger
#

Did Robby get an MSX?

#

join us

fallen summit
#

Sony made nice stuff

#

But that disk rom was slow

sudden kite
fallen summit
#

Sad news ..... Hamlet (MSX.org's most active editor) passed away

sudden kite
#

rest in peace, legend!

fallen summit
#

I live on the other side of the planet of most MSX users

#

I only met a few

sudden kite
#

same

fallen summit
#

his real name was Markus Vordermeier

#

really good dude

fallen summit
copper prawn
#

chirp

naive dagger
#

moo

fallen summit
sleek gulch
fallen summit
#

yup

teal marten
#

Open source msx player

fallen summit
#

yup

#

it's a fun little gadget that allows you to use the real hardware chips to play music

fallen summit
#

shooo @copper prawn shooo!! Go away!! back to your basket!

serene condor
#

?

#

I cannot stop looking at his flapping arm....that meat flaps lol

fallen summit
#

@serene condor what a thing to concentrate on

fallen summit
#

for those who knew Nyyrikki and his father Athi - Ahti passed away

fallen summit
#

“For those who”

sudden kite
#

who?

fallen summit
#

Don’t be such an insensitive fool

sudden kite
#

sorry didn't meant to 😦

fallen summit
#

Nyyrikki is a very well known MSX guru and his dad (lesser known) is a legend in the scene too

#

They are from Finland

slim stirrup
fallen summit
#

Yeah they were quite the father son duo

sudden kite
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Rip 😔

#

He's probably the one who introduced MSX as a first computer to his son

bright rock
# fallen summit

I’m sorry to hear about the MSX’s communities loss. I love this photo of him and can’t think of anything that’s a greater combination of badass and nerdy in a single image.

fallen summit
fallen summit
#

or

#

which is the better game? MSX vs SMS

serene condor
#

MSX

#

Oooh oops forgot

#

—sniff—

#

There.

fallen summit
#

@serene condor did anyone ever tell you that you're a weirdo?

serene condor
#

yes - grin - at highschool level too

#

face to face too 😄

serene condor
#

loool

fallen summit
#

meanwhile in Brasil

rapid tide
#

That's not the Fray from the Batman Beyond style Buffy comic spinoff!

fallen summit
#

nope

#

Ricbit is an insane MSX guru - it's nice that he made thise by using the google translate API

#

a call every second

fallen summit
#

Happy [M]ay[S]i[X]th day

bright rock
#

I don’t get it

fallen summit
#

[M] [S] [X] match the pattern above 😛

fallen summit
#

enjoy!!

slim stirrup
#

That Westen House game looks really cool

fallen summit
#

yup

#

Cube Droid is great too

#

I've had that version for a while already

#

was not allowed to give out

serene condor
#

I need help with using MSX core. I don't know exactly how to use it. On the top it shows load hdv or something like that so that did not work.. There is no choice to run dsk image games or load them in MSX. Under slot #1 and Slot #2 it is already predefined megaflash cartridges but does not give me a choice to insert a ROM in the slot and to run the game. Then after that...all I get is black screen. No famous MSX logo or basic screen. Am I missing something for the MSX core?

fallen summit
#

what VHD are you using?

serene condor
#

none

#

the core does not allow me to use dsk or rom images

#

how do I run games in msx core?

#

wait

#

Where do I get this?

#

I saw in video he used vhd to go boot and this popped up. But where do I find this to put it in my MSX folder

#

where do I find sofarun virtual hard drive for msx core? Also can't I just use a rom and put it in slot#1? I am unable to do it with the core

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Ooooor you are saying I need a real cartridge hardware expansion to hook it into misterfpga and use real cartridges?

naive dagger
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I believe there are two MSX cores, the first of which uses a VHD setup w/ SofaRun. The core is based on the One Chip MSX
The newer core allows for direct ROM loading

serene condor
#

Omg!!😱 I actually own one chip MSX??!!

#

-faints-

#

Those things goes minimum for 1000 dollars at least on eBay!!

#

Is there in archive.org all the possible vhd games released for this core

#

I am k with one chip MSX honest. I just need to find ways to convert my roms and disks into vhd

#

You are right

naive dagger
#

The VHD already has the games set up in SofaRun

serene condor
#

But you said it was taken down

#

I need to make my own?

naive dagger
#

Yeah, I mean the last time I used the VHD image

#

I'll see if I can find a link

serene condor
#

Thank you!!

naive dagger
#

The new MSX core will hopefully be easier

#

Well, it already is

serene condor
#

Should I do mister system update to get that core?

naive dagger
#

But I don't think it supports 2+ or Turbo R yet

serene condor
#

Oooh

naive dagger
#

Yeah that's an issue

serene condor
#

This core support 2+

naive dagger
#

But MSX2 library is pretty deep

serene condor
naive dagger
#

Oh so One Chip core does support 2+?

serene condor
#

Yes

#

It also supports MSX 3

#

No mention of turbo though

naive dagger
#

Check DMs

#

This is my actual baby

pliant zephyr
#

does anyone here have experience connecting an actual MSX to a CRT?

I am new to this beauty, but I tried it tonight first tome and initially it worked with my Sony PVM (via a BNC adapter). However, the operation has become intermittent and now neither video nor audio is displayed... I am concerned that there may have been something wrong with the cable connection. Initially I thought it was some sync issue, but since at some point it worked perfectly fine I’m not sure…

I used a JP RGB 21-pin cable that I purchased last week and connected it to my CRT TV from 21-pin via a SCART adapter and then from SCART to BNC.

Now that it no longer works, I thought I might need to use the a RGB SCART cable directly instead of the 21-pin.

Did I fuck up?

#

here’s the beautiful “Playstation 0”, played Parodius for a bit and was so awesome.

I don’t have the right mono<>stereo audio cables but putting together a few rca female<> males I managed to get mono audio out and was great

fallen summit
#

@serene condor there are news ones from someone called NosferatuMSX

#

It has a nice basic menu that you can skip if you want

#

I heard this person is working on a new boot.vhd

serene condor
#

Sweet! Where would I go to get updates about the boot.vhd?

#

The new one I mean

fallen summit
#

dunno

#

if you knew the guy who made it you would know

serene condor
#

You mean it is you?!

fallen summit
#

who knows

naive dagger
#

I got that last VHD for the OCM core last night
Everything I tried started and played great

#

Not sure what I should be using for the CPU and turbo settings
Can I speed up the game unzipping/loading somehow?

fallen summit
#

@naive dagger no - the zip compression is already set to level 0

naive dagger
#

Still awesome, thanks to the person responsible

fallen summit
#

@naive dagger the issue with other images was that someone used the max compression level - which took ages to unpack

#

the reason why they are in zip file is for long filename support

#

8.3 format doesn't work for all the ROMs included

#

method = Stored

warped beacon
#

What key combination on a bluetooth keyboard must be pressed to PAUSE the game?

spark jacinth
#

Depends on the keyboard vs what's the button you need to press in the core.

warped beacon
#

the keyboard is like this

spark jacinth
#

Did you try F1?

#

I think that was pause in contra

warped beacon
spark jacinth
#

If you go to the menu core (the core that boots up first on the mister) what does the F1 key do for you with that keyboard?

warped beacon
#

in contra it works like PAUSE

spark jacinth
#

I mean the MiSTer menu core

#

F1 changes the wallpaper, it will serve as a test to make sure the keyboard is using F1 when you press f1

#

But looks like you confirmed that.

warped beacon
#

on the msx itself there was a STOP button, probably it served as a pause

#

in contra it works, it probably means everything is in order with the button

spark jacinth
#

Oh your keyboard doesn't seem to have pause break or scroll lock

#

So if the core has it mapped to pause break which positionally would be similar then you might be outta luck on that. Not totally sure.

#

Try end, page up, page down. Those didn't seem to exist on the msx keyboard I'm looking at

warped beacon
spark jacinth
#

yeah, i would suspect the game would have to be programmed to accept that button press as an input

#

try ctrl+end, ctrl+pageUp, ctrl+pausebreak

#

on the full size

#

i'm seeing a lot saying that ctrl+stop was kind of a kill switch, maybe it'll do something lol

karmic rover
fallen summit
fallen summit
#

Keep in mind that the shift F1 = F6 and shift F2 = F7 (etc)

slim stirrup
#

Did the msx mainly use the keyboard for games or does the controller work for everything by default?

naive dagger
#

Controllers work real nice, plus you can get mice
Not sure if any games use the mice

#

You can easily mod a Mega Drive 3-button for MSX

#

Same connector, but wiring needs to be changed a bit

#

The prose on this actual MSX controller is funny to me

#

I had this one, which is a step above

#

Basically a Famicom controller that they multipurposed

#

You're gonna need a standard control layout like that, plus a keyboard of some sort

#

Originally included a thumb nub - Remember those?

slim stirrup
#

I get it, but it's an odd look

naive dagger
#

Now that I'm looking they seem to be variants

#

MSX hardware collecting can be a trip

#

Check this out, top of the original MSX line

#

Sadly did not get much in the way of games

fallen summit
#

And joypads weren’t really a thing for home computers

#

Panasonic made a nice one though

serene condor
#

Data entry, ssearch for books in library in database, schools to keep students marks, records, receiptionist to pull out customer profile

silent kettle
silent kettle
#

those always looked like they were clones of hudson's joycard

naive dagger
#

They feel good, like good NES dpad and buttons

fallen summit
#

Batty send me her NES to MSX controller

silent kettle
#

whats that an adapter

fallen summit
#

no

#

conversion to db9

silent kettle
#

oh okay

silent kettle
fallen summit
silent kettle
#

ok but turbo r upgrade for Sony MSX2+ models 🤯

fallen summit
#

well it's just a replacement for a bunch of chips

#

nothing special

silent kettle
#

well you will have to bear with me, i have never seen such a thing and have a HB-F1XDJ

fallen summit
#

the J stands for Japan

fallen summit
#
Intro demo - Music swell missing and music not timed correctly for end of demo
Stage 4 - end boss glitched out while destroyed
Stage 5 - graphical glitches when destroying 'fire seed pods' 
Stage 7 - Organics don't cover the whole screen when attaching only ever other row
Stage 8 - Some minor graphical glitches like at @33:39 / End boss feet stay behind and don't get cleaned up
Stage 9 - Shield device 'find' icon looks different than in the final version / 2nd part of the end boss has stage music and minor glitching
End boss - head looks nothing like the end boss
End Demo -  No sound while flashing and the emergency alarm is missing / At 'FIN" music gets broken due to Dr Venom's laugh```
#

my favorite jump scare of all time

serene condor
#

Where do get this cartridge? Seriously?

silent kettle
#

That tweet is for BEEP store in Japan, I dont know anything except whats in the tweet and what Vampier found on the website.

naive dagger
#

IIRC a couple of my MSXes were from BEEP

fallen summit
#

They are already sold out

spark jacinth
#

Typical

#

Everytime I want a rare msx thing!!

#

:p

silent kettle
#

it uses an fpga (I assume for the R800) and there are very polite disclaimers about maybe compatibility not being perfect. but where japanese modesty ends and actual problems begin I couldnt tell you

fallen summit
#

「ゲーマーズROOMサウンドプロジェクト」活動3周年を記念して、これまでアレンジした沙羅曼蛇のBGM11曲を高音質化し一つの動画にまとめました!

M2〜9、M11作曲者:東野美紀様
M1、M10作曲者:古川元亮様
編曲:ゲーマーズROOMサウンドプロジェクト
イラスト:HALHAL360様

00:00 M1:Operation Seedleek(MSX版OP)
01:53 M2:Power of Anger
04:26 M3:Fly High
06:59 M4:Planet RATIS
09:29 M5:Starfield
12:07 M6:Burn the Wind
14:41 M7:Destroy Them All
17:13 M8:Poison of Snake
19:48 ...

▶ Play video
fallen summit
#

22 year with the openMSX team - never asked for a dime - now a bunch of fuckers come and charge 1.99euros for a crappy emulator with a codebase that's probably from BlueMSX or openMSX (I worked with the BlueMSX team as well)

fallen summit
#

yeah and they use cbios

#

well I see a certain name in the credit for that one too

#

20 years ago - damn 😄

low barn
#

"My goal is to provide a high-quality, user-friendly experience that justifies the small fee." ---right .... :)))

#

but I guess it is not the first and for sure not the last when ppl will use others free work to get some small potatoes

spark jacinth
#

they have to charge a certain amount because after a certain number of downloads they would have to be paying for every download, but i think it's a lot lower than 2 bucks each lol

#

i think this is only for the apple store though

#

if it's on android, as long as you aren't charging for anything, don't have any ads, etc... then it shouldn't cost anything for unlimited downloads

spark jacinth
#

yeah maybe apple works the same way now where free is always free as long as you aren't doing ad revenue

#

coulda sworn it used to be different

#

OPLL doesn't work? lol

#

okay so maybe it's not bluemsx, maybe it is a new emulator given the bugs

#

or as bengalack said at the end... ocm-emulator bugs present

#

hrmmm

#

what is that other emulator and what is the license for it?

fallen summit
#

I just asked

#

with an example of how we dealt with this last time

#

MSX game was released on steam using a version of openMSX with DRM built in - which was not allowed according to the license

spark jacinth
#

openmsx is gpl v2 or v3?

fallen summit
#

also MSX VR was using openMSX code at one time - not sure if they still do these days

spark jacinth
#

depends on the drm if it's v2, if it's v3 then yeah pretty much most drm is a no go

fallen summit
#

Some source files contain a license notice; all other source files are
licensed under the GNU Public License (GPL), of which you can find a copy
in the file 'GPL.txt'. If you got a binary release of openMSX and are
interested in the sources, please visit our home page:
https://openmsx.org/

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they refused to share their DRM stuff

#

so therefore not sharing changes made to the code

#

@spark jacinth the OCM is FPGA - not C++ or whatever code

spark jacinth
#

oh, well then that is kinda irrelevant then

#

it could be this person who wrote a bunch of OCR app frontends also can make an emulator given the huge amount of documentation already out there on the msx

fallen summit
#

true

#

but why do it when you can take it from a 22 year old codebase that has been optimized and perfected

spark jacinth
#

yup

blazing basin
#

Buying this is a bad idea, right?

naive dagger
#

Is that the design where the rim around the slidey disc is the actual dpad?

blazing basin
#

Can't tell for sure but I think it's just an NES Max with fewer buttons

rapid tide
#

Sony on it. Makes me imagine some alternate reality where the PSX got a version of the NES max.

silent kettle
fallen summit
#

that things looks like a controller nightmare

#

d-pad for the win

blazing basin
#

haha I guess it might be Sony's first controller

#

any good suggestions for MSX controllers besides just looking at random stuff on eBay? I will be playing on the MiSTer core.

naive dagger
#

you just need a good dpad and two buttons

#

M30 would be fine

blazing basin
#

Thanks!

#

I have an m30 but i don't care for it. It has a nice dpad but the odd grip cheeks combined with the slipperiness make it not work for my hands

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Maybe just an nes style pad

blazing basin
#

I like your joy card. That looks really cool.

fallen summit
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8BitDo

2.4G wireless gamepad for your Analogue Duo, PC engine mini, turbografx-16 mini, PC engine coregrafx mini system Switch compatibility with 2.4G USB receiver (included) Includes 2.4G USB receiver Lag Free & rechargeable built-in Lithium Ion battery Includes 2.4G Controller, 2.4G USB receiver and USB cable

blazing basin
fallen summit
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Awesome. It's shaped like a dragon quest slime.

fallen summit
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more like these enemies 😄

fallen summit
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funny... talking about Golvellius

fallen summit
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What’s news with the MSX core!?

low barn
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just the framework i think

fallen summit
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Yeah still has the bugs in the VDP

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Interlace bit still broken

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Whatever - reported it over 3 years ago

low barn
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the only latest change on JP computer cores is for X68000 afaik

fallen summit
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Would be nice to have that one working

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No love for old japanese computers

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I don’t get it

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Oh well - let’s do more c64!!

naive dagger
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JP computers deffo could use some champions
But Japan seems very different where emulation, etc is concerned

naive dagger
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I would much rather see finished X68K, PC-98, Towns than the remaining consoles

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(3DO, Jag, CDi lol)

fallen summit
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I ran into that when someone asked me for help

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And I couldn’t help him since he refused to try something

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But he didn’t have a probably insulting me and telling me I didn’t know what I was talking about

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Again: lost in translation

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He didn’t mean it like that but it came across as such

spark hamlet
low barn
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think more changes are related to floppy/dma stuff as i diagonally read it. Will see after some coffee 😄

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mmm, no more characters corruption when for example list a file, scrolling it , seems to run smooth

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Previous core version:

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X68000 24.05.09 (didn't test yet the FDC one yet) :

low barn
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to stay on topic with the channel, having fun with MSX software emulators on X68000 (EMES and FMSX), slowly deciphering them 😄

fallen summit
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FMSX? We don’t speak this name around these parts

fallen summit
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these Japanese dudes with their absolutely weird notation

sudden kite
raw path
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I was wondering if there will be a MSX turbo-R core or if the MSX 1 or 2 core supported it

cyan horizon
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We first need MSX2 core completed... we await the second coming of our lord, Molekula the MSX God

serene condor
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LOL I have been asking for MSX turbo-R but everyone keep saying we need MSX 2 core completed.

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Although it looks completed to me.

raw path
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i saw a video on it the unit - looks intresting thats for sure and it is backwards compatible too

marble barn
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My understanding is MSX1 core is the building block for expanding the core to be a full MSX2 core, which is still under development, and once we have a complete MSX2 core it is the building block to be expanded to a Turbo R core. However, Turbo R has chips in it that are complex that we don't have cores for and need more understanding, investigation and documentation. Furrtek was decapping and tracing some awhile back, but I am not sure what became of that.

sudden kite
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are we forgetting about MSX2+ ?

marble barn
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I clearly have, so yes, another stop on the road to Turbo R we need to pass 🙂

raw path
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so it looks to be a long while till we have a 2+ or a T-R core Thanks for the info all!

rain viper
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Most things that people want to play are on 2 I think.

marble barn
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What is the status with the MSX2 core? Has there been any update recently? It is a shame it hasn't been merged into Main and added to unstable nightlies

lethal carbon
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Unless someone steps up an MSX Turbo-R will never happen:

  • CPU R800 (DAR800-X0G) at 28.63630 MHz external clock and 16-bit ALU.
  • Yamaha YM-2413 OPLL
  • T9769C MSX-ENGINE (also contains Z80A)
  • V9978 Video Display Processor (best just directly go to that chip)

All are very well documented in the openMSX Project , this is a very mature emulator where the authors have done substantial non destructive tests to all chips on a most MSX machines to get the timing just right.

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The current state of the MSX2 core is 'good enough' but it's still based on the OCM core with some exception for the disk controllers. I hope @craggy iris will have some time in the near future to resume work again.

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Then there is the matter of ROM mappers, current ROMs do not have a header, I believe Vampier and Kintrix put some work into that already.

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To make an MSX core that is plug and play ready a lot of work needs to be done on that front as well.

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Currently the best collection out there is probably the one compiled by NosferatuMSX, but he/she(?) has indicated that this VHD image will not be updated anymore.

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Sofarun does a decent job of auto picking most of the mappers for the ROMs

karmic rover
lethal carbon
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seems to be abandoned

karmic rover
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It is only if we want to use max 2+. It is great for Space Manbow game 😊

lethal carbon
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Laydock 2 / F1-Spirit 3D / Golvellius MSX2 / Supercooks

gentle spoke
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Do any of the MSX cores have SNAC support as of yet? I haven't been keeping up, unfortunately.

spark jacinth
slate echo
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hi can someone help me to run realfun 3 re-player (https://www.xl2s.tk/) in msx1 core ? i have select ssc+ in slot 1 and load rom in slot 2 but no sound ?!? sorry for this nub question

low barn
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from the site: " needs an MSX with GFX9000, Dos 2 and of course an cartridge with an SCC for sound". https://www.msx.org/wiki/Sunrise_GFX9000

slate echo
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no for the re-player

low barn
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We don't have that implemented in fpga, iirc there are decapping efforts, but don't take my word for it

slate echo
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only for the tracker

low barn
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it works for me, though volume is bit low

slate echo
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not all voice are on

low barn
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right...

slate echo
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only ay i think

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scc doens't seem to work

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that's the right sound

low barn
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did you tried it in OpenMSX ? I have (but very briefly, so for sure I missed smth) and couldn't get SCC+ sound either

lethal carbon
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no sound

lethal carbon
lethal carbon
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random youtube video 😄

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just check the guy in the background blue shirt

fallen summit
fallen summit
karmic rover
fallen summit
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happy birthday Nemesis 2 and SCC Chip 😄

fallen summit
karmic rover
fallen summit
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@karmic rover check who made the first comment on the video 😉

fallen summit
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Yeah talked about unused assets that would have made the game just as good as the SMS version

karmic rover
karmic rover
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@fallen summit do you know some tools to convert TZX to CAS file ?

fallen summit
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I stayed away from tzx as far as possible / they really kept on bugging me about it

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Ask in the openMSX server someone might know

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I also hate cas files … slow and noisy

karmic rover
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thanks I will check
Some games existed only TsX format

fallen summit
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1988年にコナミよりMSXに発売された「エルギーザの封印」です。
エルギーザの封印は、MSX1と2で発売されていて、本動画はMSX1版になります。

パッケージの見分け方としては、表記以外には外枠に赤い線(MSX1)があるか緑の線(MSX2)があるかで分かります。
MSX1とMSX2では一長一短あり、ゲームを遊ぶ意味ではMSX1のほうが操作ストレスが無いと言われています。

タイトルに「King's valley 2」とあるように、前作は「王家の墓」になります。
本作はその続編になります。

前作のエジプトから舞台は変わり、本作は「レムール」という惑星上の調査を行っていて。
未来の宇宙の遺跡を探索しています。

レムールのピラミッドパワーが暴走し始め、地球を破壊しかねない!!
主人公...

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I feel like playing Castlevania Portrait of Ruin 😄

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both have timestamps

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first time I played PoR I was like... I know this song... but how can that be? 😄

fallen summit
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Generating openMSX ROMDB for new release

cyan horizon
fallen summit
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openMSX

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@cyan horizon I hope Molekula will resume soon

karmic rover
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soon 🎉

karmic rover
fallen summit
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did some prepwork for what should become the eventual romdb for the msx core

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6221 entries 😄

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lol

karmic rover
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THank you 🙂

fallen summit
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np

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didn't take much - the only thing I had to do was to add a field to the table and a few lines of code to my romscanner

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no collisions detected in crc32

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I have 226 roms left that need to be cataloged - this is literally the bottom of the barrel

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looks like this

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SHA1 is added to the start of the file so I can quickly test and add

fallen summit
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pics not mine ... obviously

karmic rover
fallen summit
karmic rover
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The background music (BGM) in Thexder is played with 3 channels due to the MSX specifications,
but because of the sound effects (SFX), usually 1 or sometimes 2 channels are occupied, which often leads to severe degradation of the music.
In order to address this issue, I created a 2xPSG version of THEXDER. (https://youtu.be/od41EsiP24g?si=b_p...

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fallen summit
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yup added to the romdb already

karmic rover
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i didn't managed to run it on the core I need to check on DB what is the mapper

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So ASCII8 the core have sometimes issue to detect this mapper

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will check it 🙂

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Syntax Error in 0 😭

fallen summit
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Ascii8

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huh?

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what you mean syntax error in 0?

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it's ASCII8

karmic rover
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If I set ASCII8 it prints this error

fallen summit
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ah

karmic rover
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it seems not running on the core MSX1/MSX2

fallen summit
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needs double PSG

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not supported by core

karmic rover
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also with MEGASG SCC+

fallen summit
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the core doesn't have double PSG

karmic rover
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double PSG works with Zanac-Ex - Compile (1986) [Victor Martinez Enhancement v1.03]

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it is recognized

fallen summit
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different person

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different approach

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wrote a query to see what's popular the last 30 days

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filtered spammers out

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select `t1`.`GameID` AS `gameID`,`t1`.`GameName` AS `GameName`,`t1`.`Year` AS `Year`,`t1`.`Platform` AS `Platform`,`t2`.`hits` AS `hits` from (`romdb`.`msxdb_rominfo` `t1` join (select `romdb`.`msxdb_views`.`GameID` AS `gameid`,count(0) AS `hits` from `romdb`.`msxdb_views` where to_days(current_timestamp()) - to_days(`romdb`.`msxdb_views`.`CreateDtTm`) < 30 group by `romdb`.`msxdb_views`.`GameID`) `t2` on(`t1`.`GameID` = `t2`.`gameid`)) where 1 = 1 and !(`t1`.`IP` in (select `vwSpammerDetection`.`ip` from `romdb`.`vwSpammerDetection` where `vwSpammerDetection`.`SpammerDetected` is null)) and `t1`.`Platform` like 'MSX%' order by `t2`.`hits` desc```
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seriously... who the heck can read this stuff... I put in nicely formated SQL and this is what mariadb made out of it