#ASCII - MSX
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to switch disks hold 1 /2 /3 /4 (etc) and push space.. it will then select the disk numbers
that's it... that's all
most of this information is common knowledge with MSX users - but in case it wasn't... well here it is
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing all of that.
selecting game master is built into sofarun btw
instead of loading go to settings and add game master
yup
it is interesting I was thinking with the v9990 have all previous vdp features so it is better to use V9990 just for games required it.
Can’t remember, did they delid an r800 as well?
the 240p test suite for the MSX will also have an MSX2 version 😄
Preview from the creator
Great 👍
For the MSX
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7180/
Thank you 👍
woohoo! I love SMT and this is the more obscure game that never panned out sequels
its based off the original story that SMT used as very loose inspiration
there was even 6 more novels written by the author after megaten was adapted into games
the first two Digital Devil Story books have been fan translated if you look around
the rest not so much
yes the Megami Tensei (first ones) stuck close to the novels, but the "Shin" games (and everything after) were more of a loose inspiration
there is also a Japanese OVA of the first novel
Does it just stop at Shin or do they do Ankle and Foot versions too?
the Foot version are the games that stink
Is the MSX game sufficiently different from tge NES one that it makes sense to play both?
From Wikipedia "The version for personal computers (PC) is an action role-playing game which plays from a top-down perspective. Controlling Nakajima, the player explores the labyrinthine levels of a dungeon populated by enemies. Combat plays out in real time, with Nakajima fighting demons using both short-range melee attacks and ranged magic attacks. Each section of the dungeon ends in a powerful boss encounter.[2]["
totally different gsmes
I knew these existed
the screenshot is from Gallforce which uses the magic key
I've never seen a picture of it though
MSX isn't good
LOL @fallen summit
loooool
I knew you were reading 😄
you fell for my trap!
what trap?
Well it looks like we're going to have a small group of mister users in one space on the 17th
oh where?
VCF SoCal is the first Vintage Computing Festival VCFed partner show in Southern California. Come see amazing vintage computers and retro tech, share your passion, and connect with other enthusiasts. We will have an exhibition hall, vendors, interactive events, keynote speakers, panel discussions and lots of fun.
too bad I already took a vacation 😦
0-o
I was gonna to go to the Midwest one but hotel was too expensive for zero notice. Plan on going next year.
Er this year now I guess
I just go down the street for this one
Because why not, Big Buck Bunny playing on MSX core (OCM this time)
@fallen summit Following on from the conversation in the Saturn channel. I’d like to learn more about the MSX/give it a go. I noticed there are two MSX cores on the MiSTer - what’s the difference, and how does their accuracy compared to e.g OpenMSX? 🙂
one core is based on the One Chip MSX (OCM) and only support VHD
the other core is made by @craggy iris who used the OCM as a base initially
the official core is limited to MSX1 only and works great
the beta core supports MSX2 but @craggy iris has switched priorities and the core development is on hold for now
Are they not both official cores?
Okay, so… just checking I get it:
- MSX_MiSTer is the original core based on OCM, and is basically “complete” and supports MSX1 & 2, but is a less convenient because it’s VHD only.
- MSX1_MiSTer is a newer core which is based on OCM, and benefits from being more convenient, but doesn’t support all of the features (e.g. MIDI?) of the above core, and is MSX1 only.
- Since then, Molekula has added MSX 2 support to the MSX1_MiSTer repo (same advantages as the MSX1_MiSTer core) but is still in beta so not complete? Need to get it from the GitHub branch rather than installing via update_all.
So if you’re not scared of using VHDs and a bit more setup: MSX_MiSTer is the most “complete”, albeit less convenient. And if you’re not scared of using beta software and want the convenience, it’s better to use the beta from the msx2 branch of the MSX1_MiSTer repo?
And if you’re not averse to software emulators, OpenMSX is the way to go? 😉
And I guess, assuming infinite dev time etc, the ambition would be for the beta msx2 branch of the MSX1_MiSTer repo to get merged into main/master, at which point it would/could probably replace the MSX_MiSTer core, in the same way the NukedMD core “replaced” the old Genesis core?
good summary
Awesome, thanks for checking I didn’t get it wrong. Now to dig into the game library 😄
I thought that MSX1 is not based on OCM.
@rain viper the underlying FGPA components are for the biggest part
as far as I understood it
oh wait... I think you're right
what's OCM
Have fun there, mate 🙂
no
Microsoft couldn't care less about MSX imho
it was just another home computer platform that they sold their MS BASIC and MS DOS to
they had a bigger fish to fry (IBM PC and its ecosystem)
or were actually already frying
sorry that I took it too seriously 😛
Quite a lot of mister discord users showed up
This vintage show in the states or EU?
nice. wish I can go there one day too
What cool looking hardware. Hope everyone had fun.
I've already requested time off at work for VCF Midwest this year. I won't miss it again.
I think it's gotten so big that it's technically separate from the other VCFs in the nation. Not sure.
That sounds awesome. I’m a vintage computer noob but I love checking out classic hardware.
There were some pretty cool computers at vcfsw. Always fun to see what people manage to lug around to the cons.
I know people make shitty jokes about nerd conventions but they've always been some of most chill experiences I've ever had. Way different energy than big concert festivals which have similar turnouts.
I've never been to really small focused ones but things like Comic Cons and PAX were always fun to me.
you went there?
apparently the gentleman is not in the loop on the MSX scene - which is funny because he was using a funny ROM collection that looked very familiar 😄
Vcfsw, yes. Glad that it restarted. Looking forward to the one this year too.
you missed out on our meeting then
Americans don't care about MSX and think it is inferior to what they had
I care and think it's better than Colecovision
anyone know of msx turbo core?
@fallen summit whatever happened to that new MSX core?
Are you American?
Makes sense 🙂
Where are you originally from? If I may ask
well... that used to be a loaded question.....
but I was born in the Netherlands
lived there for 26 years
Now it all makes even more sense 😉
I've heard that MSX was very popular there
it's not like I never said this before 🙂
yup
I grew up close to Eindhoven
Eindhoven (Dutch: [ˈɛintˌɦoːvə(n)] ; literally "Last Hooves") is a city and municipality of the Netherlands, located in the southern province of North Brabant of which it is its largest and is also located in the Dutch part of the natural region the Campine. With a population of 238,326 on 1 January 2022, it is the fifth-largest city of the Neth...
would love to visit it one day
What happened to the MSX Turbo-R core?
it was never released
why??!
Is there at least an alpha version or some usueable version a person can play with the core?
no
it was never released
the guy who made it kept it to himself
openmsx runs the turbo-r just fine
LOL!
So the guy who made it kept it to himself refusing to share it with others?
Nice! I salute him!
yup
He’s also free to do whatever he wants with what he makes. He has no obligation to share.
But sharing is caring and through positive reinforcement we can encourage those types to open up and engage with the community.
HRA
it might be released
but keep in mind that his priority is OCM comparability... no obligation towards the MiSTer community
Hmmm understandable
tried a "real" OCM recently; pretty neat, but I have no carts for the MSX (nor any joysticks to the MSX standard)
so I don't have a lot of use for it over what I have already on MiST or MiSTer
(it felt like using the MiST core)
it is okay send it to me 😛
I was just borrowing it🤣
I thought about getting one instead of an MSX, but so far not much use for it
I'd have to get a Carnivore for the MSX
I still couldn't get it working with my MSX computers...
most likely I'll have to upgrade the firmware on it, somehow :/
if it's like the OCM you will need to use a 2GB FAT16 partition
I had to reformat an SD card for it to work
the OS that can be run from it can actually support 4GB partitions
I think it is called Nextor
oh yeah Nextor; I didn't manage to install it
I found a great Spanish archive of MSX1 games - including top list of recent homebrew from MSXdev and Spanish forums
those communities seem very active
what was it called? file something?
MSX1 Pack 3.0
looks like they have a MSX2 Pack 1.0 now too
easy to find on google
oh I was thinking about file hunter
it actually support up to 4GB
@honest fractal where do you think filehunter gets his archives from?
^_^
we work together - I process them through the ROMDB and I create an archive of curated roms and a dump of all non commercial available ones
you, of course 😛
I think they are Dutch too?
thank you for your hard work
TFH|Fony aka FileHunter aka Arnaud is indeed Dutch
if you see a rom that ends in [1234] (or a different number) it means it's been vetter through the ROMDB
Should I get the USB?
It would be nice if you create something like it but on an SD card for the carnivore 2 😁
Plug and play
Does the MSX1 core work well? Since I recently updated the MiSTer FPGA, I have noticed that the MSX1 core is not working and the keyboard and controller are not working. I think it has something to do with linux update.
dunno - haven't tried it for a while
openmsx since today
you'll need the nightly build for openMSX for this https://openmsx.vampier.net/zips/
can you play multiplayer online in any games or not? XD
funny - people really seem to like the capability of connecting openMSX to the internet
i wonder how frequently they use it. i like the novelty of doing this sort of thing once then i end up not using it again hehe
that's exactly it
there are enthausiasts out there that love this stuff @spark jacinth
@low barn for example is obsessed with connecting everything to the internet 😄
off topic but Mame shows first sign of FS-A1ST
wasn't MESS part of mame now?
No hangs on the logo
Sean Young merged that with MAME a long time ago
so it should already have worked
www.mess.org used to host the multi emulator super system website, however that project merged with MAME back in 2015. The old website can be seen here. Since the domain is no longer important to the
new game today: Mandarin2 - Mananuk (2024) [original]
this is a message to keep channel alive
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with the N64 development cycle coming to an end it's time to switch to an MSX project
yes plz
emulate all possible combinations of MSX machines
Illusion City
Ok….I want MSX turbo and rely on other people’s hard work to make it possible for me, while I sit on the coach and eat chips. But still….
Soooooooooo
Cute!
yup - was creating avatars for the test server
this one was one I created as a joke
Illusion City main character
Aaaaah!!! ❤️😍❤️😍
I wanna hug him!!!! Giant teddy bear bear!!
Heheh
Be cared with a face like that there will be no more women for the rest of us
Loool
Do you do pixel art?
no
Ooh
Amazing how a sentence can be finalized with just two letters @_o
ja
What is this? Can someone explain?
It’s a drawing of something called the v9958
More specifically, it is demonstrating that work is being done to reverse engineering the actual inner workings of that microchip by taking one apart and using a microscope to get a large, clear picture of the inside
You can see the beginnings of the reverse engineering by the overlaid colored lines
What's the best up to date MSX VHD image and rom set? Could someone DM me a few links? Thanks!
Hmmmmm nosferatuMSX in some archive
Yup - looking forward to new discoveries - he already made 1
Is that the intention to turn it into a core?
The intention is to have an “exact” version of the chip. As Vampier said above, the person doing this has already made discoveries that previous higher level reverse engineering approaches have missed.
MSX2+ and Turbo R VDP?
Yep
It would be great to see a more complete core with direct file loading for games
Need r800 for turbo r though
The new core made a lot of progress early on
Aren't there a few wacky games for MSX Turbo R that require extra processors from an add-on cart, can use extra sound carts, etc.
One is like a Golden Axe-style hack & slash?
I remember seeing pics and the description made it sound like it really needed Frankenstein MSX tech
Lots of cool expansions, like the v9990 and some cool fm carts
Konami carts had the scc chip built in
Yeah, but I mean way later after the line had ended, like fancy doujin game
Yeah, I still think you are remembering the v9990
Anyway, I still kind of want this kit
I regret never buying a gr8net. Not likely to get one now
https://kai-magazine-software.fwscart.com
They have made a lot of cool msx stuff. Been porting it to the genesis lately.
From something I read, my understanding is that the Turbo R was originally meant to have more SNES-style graphics and got scaled back
So now you can add various carts and kind of fake it
It isn’t faking it, the v9990 was the next evolution of the vdp: https://www.msx.org/wiki/Yamaha_V9990
The Yamaha V9990 is the successor to the V9958 and supposedly a stripped down version of the never finished Yamaha V9978, which was meant to be used for the MSX3. The V9978 supposedly would have backward software compatibility with the V9958, and there are some never confirmed rumours about other features of the V9978 like a 16-bit databus and D...
Yeah plus it uses Moonsound
I thought the graphics in Turbo R look visually similar to the games found ins SNES and Gensis?
Nope
Those consoles can do smooth scrolling and multilayered backgrounds easily
Turbo R would be more like a fancy SMS
Kai magazine stuff is programmed in basic - and full with mistakes as far as I saw
That looks really cool, I gotta look into that game
Watching some video and I'd totally play it but it would be cool if it could run a little faster/look a bit smoother
Yeah the movement is super choppy
Sine when did you turn into damon albarn in his Blur days?
Can an MSX 2 be expanded to mimic MSX turbo r with multiple cartridges?
Sure - but it won’t be a real MSX anymore
Was there an r800 expansion cartridge?
no
v9900 / opl4 (moonsound)
the v9900 doesn't pipe back to the MSX and just has a separate video out - all processing is on the cart
moonsound uses the cart audio in to pipe audio back but doesn't take processing
anything beyond that would be too slow on an 3.58mhz msx
Hmm, I never did get an opl4 expansion
not missing much
Neotron - The Neogeo OPN soundcard for MSX. It plays Neogeo and other OPN soundfiles with VGMPlay. The multiplatform tracker Deflemask can output to vgm so you can play your own creations too on MSX. Laurens Holst (Grauw) made code to use vgm files in your own MSX software.
Please allow a few weeks before delivery. Currently (25-11-2021) in sto...
yeah grauw has worked with valleybell and the openMSX team to make the sound as accurate as possible for all these weird chips
Darn, I don't see that insane SMS/SID cart on their shop now
But this seems new?
https://shop.supersoniqs.com/en/home/103-robby-msx-voice-module.html
Robby is a speech interface for MSX, allowing users to add speech to their programs using MSX-Basic or machine code API. It offers two modes for text input and dynamic frequency control for music synchronization and different sounding voices. Developed by Junsoft, Robby aims to fill the gap in MSX history by providing a speech interface for our ...
ROBBY
Nope - not new
@bright rock is never new but always fresh 😉
I ❤️ Multiplying Seven Xylophones
A live stream from the #MSX fair in Nijmegen/Beuningen - 23-03-2024
live streams from Nijmegen MSX meetup
i've been to nijmegen
it was a busy place. noisy.
and you couldn't really go anywhere. i had to watch my step. but i got out of there alive.
Got chased by communists?
no, i was playing medal of honor: frontlines on ps2
@copper prawn you went a bridge too far
darn operation market garden
(I never played the game but I know my WW2 history for the region)
Operation Market Garden was an Allied military operation during the Second World War fought in the German-occupied Netherlands from 17 to 25 September 1944. Its objective was to create a 64 mi (103 km) salient into German territory with a bridgehead over the Nederrijn (Lower Rhine River), creating an Allied invasion route into northern Germany. ...
that's the first operation mentioned after d-day in any documentary
but i spotted a norwegian operation in a new commandos origins trailer - vemork
i reckognized the location
the heavy water sabotation
the whole region from where I am from has so many war memorials
every village/town has at least 1
This one is in Eerde but it's part of the same municipality
this one is in Son (yes it's a village name close to Eindhoven)
I was there for the 50 year anniversary of the liberation and they went from Eindhoven > Son > Sint Oedenrode > Veghel > Uden > Zeeland > Grave > Nijmegen
if putin wins in ukraine, we'll have failed the ww2 liberators
it's an always changing dynamic in the world - conquer and take over is name of the game
defeat and enslave is another
just becasuse it's relativly quiet since the end of ww2 in Europe doesn't mean that shit isn't bad
We should take into account how USA (via CIA) ignited the Euromaidan in 2014.
USA out of Europe NOW: let us commerce with our russian neighbors in peace, as we were doing until f**g USA had to extend the NATO to the east!!!
Damn USA, I hope they go into civil war mode and stop f**ing europe
NATO was create to never have shit happen again - but I guess the status quo cannot be mainteined
@cyan horizon / @copper prawn do you guys feel like we have entered a point of no return with Russia?
And Ukrania was supposed to remain neutral for that same reason
Sadly depends on stinky USA
Ukraine as a buffer zone
@cyan horizon well every super power flexes it's muscles - Russia/China/US/Europe
Ukraine was supposed to be neutral to the NATO and to the Russia/China block
they all do the same
putin has made it clear he won't stop and i agree with those who say he wouldn't stop AFTER ukraine. and i don't see a world where the west will ever allow him to win so who knows how this will end.
That's totally false. Russia has ZERO interest on fighting NATO countries.
"Si vis pacem, para bellum"
USA go home! Leave Europe alone!!! USA is the problem here, always has been
we've seen what the US does in the middle east
I'm not even going into that whole Israel stuff - at this point that situation is just fucked up beyond any sanity
do you understand the message we send to dictators around the world and for decades to come if we let putin win?
They did the same in Corea, Vietnam, Irak, Afghanistan, and a LONG LONG list...
USA go HOME! Leave Europe alone! I am not buying that shit, STOP propagating your interests via NATO expansion!!!! GO AWAY!!!
i don't disagree if you claim the CIA started it.. i'm talking about how it ends
CIA and NATO expansions are USA tools to destabilize countries, damn USA bastards did the same for more than a century now
I repeat: Russia has ZERO interest on invading another countries, they all wanted is neutral Ukrainie as it should have remained.
And they need that because stinky NATO missiles are too near to Russia if Ukraine joins the f**ing NATO.
USA started this, USA should pay for this.
But they won't: they want us europeans to fight their war, as always. Another USA proxy war, now in europe.
the CIA is even stirring shit inside the US
@cyan horizon it might be closer than you think
If you are european, and I believe you are, keep yourself away from the incoming war: it's NOT our war, we should be doing business with Russia as we were doing. This is an USA-created war for their interests in Ukrainie and Russia (resources)
did you listen to putin's tucker carlson interview at all
putin did like a forty hour tirade about how ukraine was part of russia a thousand years ago
he wants to restore the old and that involves TAKING LAND
Putin made Cucker Carlson his bitch
Yes I did. He has ZERO interest in conquering anything: he wants neutral Ukrainie and that's about it. Since NATO expanded, he needs to justify the invasion. That's all. I HOPE Ukrainie remains neutral (or russian, so Russia cities are far enough from NATO lines) and we don't have to go in a war against Russia.
vanafel seems pretty upset about america
Not AMERICA, but the USA
And I hope they don't get away with this euro-russian war thing
@cyan horizon was really vicious a year or so ago when I talked about @craggy iris's MSX core and thought I wanted to have it turned into an openMSX dream machine 🙂 @cyan horizon is very passionate about things 😄
@cyan horizon your nickis also really close to my last name 😛
Yes, I am. But this time I am genuinely worried about me and you as europeans. I WON'T fight a war.
i served my one year in the artillery in norway in 2001. after our conscription of a year in norway, some of us are put in the reserves who train once a year. i was thankfully NOT included in that and haven't touched a rifle in 23 years and seeing how our leaders behave and treat us, i have no interest in fighting anybody's war. i'd rather go to jail.
I never was in the army nor in the reserves
they made me corporal
@fallen summit Anybody trying to make you accept a war bewteen Europe and Russia is trying to use you as cannon fodder. Keep away from bastards trying to fight for THEIR interests.
I moved to the US after I turned 26 - so I didn't have to do selective service
100%
they can gear up and go fight themselves
War in a videogame is a thing: the misery and pain and horror of real war, is something I hope I NEVER get to experience.
You won't see USA dead bodies if war begins. You will see european dead bodies. And the gas and resource business that will benefit will be from the USA too.
We would put the bodies and the flesh: they will get the money.
So please never, NEVER defend an european-russia war. That's no game.
yeah, let's have no european country defend themselves if russia should attack
That's not what I have said.
Enough. Keep away from being recruited. I for one won't be dying for any country, I can tell you that.
That's the only thing I want to make clean here.
my brother is in the reserves and would get called out i think
i can't help but picture a bigger conflict in the coming years and i'm not going near it
I feel the same.
the US has too many warhawks
What it has is a HUGE private industrial military complex that needs to earn more money with war, and the need to get resources from all around the world. That's capitalism.
Warhawks are tools, too.
i can't believe this discussion survived without robby interfering in OUR business
holy shit, @copper prawn can be serious???
Let's keep politics talk in #spicy-off-topic please
that's ok brother, you're forty minutes late and the war is over
it was a plot for the new Metal Gear MSX game @bright rock - Kojima plot twist, we were ontopic all this time! 😄
okay then ban yourself from the channel you poser
posery poo. that's youuu
I kept most of your comments and perspective intact out of respect, just a few comments that crossed the line I removed. If you disagree or are upset please reach out to myself or the admin team.
Don't worry at all. I was just giving my opinion to the participants at that time, I don't need the messages to stay 🙂
And yes, off-topic is the place for that, just got carried away.
You do a great job as a moderator, thanks for what you do!
You’re are entirely too kind. I don’t know if this helps but I care about your concerns and I wish I could do something to improve that situation. We’re in different countries but we’re friends all the same. Thank you for being patient with me.
I also deleted my original comment as to not serve as an interruption to this wonderful chat. Thank you @fallen summit for keeping the MSX love going.
you removed SOME of the comments thereby changing the artists original intent
you did a DEMAKE of the chat
Let's call it a Pico-8 version of the chat 😄
You're the one too kind, I tend to get carried away when something really worries me. This was one of those occasions, sadly.
I hope things improve, indeed. Right now, our future is in major danger and I am upset at the culpable and very worried.
I was doing some digging in the hypersports 2 cart
this is weird
bullet sprite - square sprites and then 100/500/1000 and the 3 faces
but anything after that is... weird

mon mon monster is the game above
Ahh yes
lol, wtf has been going on in this channel
You discovered the hidden channel!
A discussion to rival Metal Gear for sure.
Oh just MSX user style discussions / things here are relatively tame
If the Rebels hadn't aligned with the Rebel Alliance, maybe the Emperor, who never wanted to invade anyone, wouldn't have had to blow up Alderran
Because doing X meets your goal doesn't mean you "had" to do it.
Opinions differ, apparently.
10 SCREEN1:COLOR15,0,0
100 DATA 00011000
110 DATA 00011000
120 DATA 01000000
130 DATA 01111110
140 DATA 00011010
150 DATA 00011010
160 DATA 00111100
170 DATA 00100100
180 '
190 DATA 00011000
200 DATA 00011000
210 DATA 00000010
220 DATA 01111110
230 DATA 01011000
240 DATA 01011000
250 DATA 00111100
260 DATA 00100100
265 FORI=0TO64:X=INT(RND(TIME*10)*30):Y=INT(RND(TIME*10)*20):LOCATEX,Y:PRINT"a":NEXT I
266 LOCATE10,10:PRINT"HETE DANS ACTIE"
270 RESTORE100:FORI=0TO7:READA$:VPOKE776+I,VAL("&b"+A$):NEXT
271 FORI=0TO500:NEXT
280 RESTORE190:FORI=0TO7:READA$:VPOKE776+I,VAL("&b"+A$):NEXT
281 FORI=0TO500:NEXT
290 GOTO 270
Keep USA business OUT of Europe, thanks. Go play war with yourselves.
Jokes are allowed on this server.
Sincerely,
The Mod Team.
r u a hacker?
you obviously are not 😄
Hey @fallen summit can you write a code in MSX of boulderdash firefly animated?
In basic of course
huh
Do you expect him to code for free ?
yeah you can write that easily
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
-- HUGS @fallen summit --
People!! Everyone!! I.....LOVE......THAT.......BRAIN!!
Still!
100 CLEAR:COLOR15,7,7
110 SCREEN 5:SETPAGE1,1:CLS
120 COLOR=(7,0,0,0)
130 FORI=0TO4 STEP 1
140 LINE(I*2,I*2)-(18-(I*2),18-(I*2)),I,BF
150 NEXT
160 DIM R,G,B
170 DATA 7,7,7
180 DATA 6,3,0
190 DATA 6,1,0
200 DATA 4,0,0
210 DATA 0,0,0
220 FORI=0TO10
230 X=INT(RND(TIME)*16)
240 Y=INT(RND(TIME)*8)
250 COPY(0,0)-(18,18)TO (X*18,Y*18)
260 NEXT
270 FORI=0TO4:READ RC,GC,BC:R(I)=RC:G(I)=GC:B(I)=BC:NEXTI
280 FORI=0TO4:COLOR=(4-CMOD4,R(I),G(I),B(I)):C=C+1:NEXT
285 IFC>20THENC=0
290 GOTO 280```
170-210 is the palette
220-260 duplicates the square at random locations
280 puts the colors in a loop
285 prevents an int overflow
130-150 is where the triangle gets drawn
I could optimize this a lot
but this is good enough
waiting for data at work so I had some downtime
I love it
Your fireflies is even more beautiful than the original game
I would so pay you to make a boulderdash on msx basic haha
heheh I saved the source code into dsk format
fireflies is my biggest reason why I fell in love with boulderdash. I love that square!! - wipes eyes -
lol
I forgot about webmsx
on line 20 replace that 10 with 50
you get 50 squares
assuming nothing is drawn ontop of eachother
😄
.... you're obsessed lol
I fell in love with them since I was a child when I first played boulder dash
Ever since then I have been stuck playing this game as an adult
all because of that square haha
when a copy of mario sells for 1M and a copy of sd snatcher sells for 1K, shows you the quality of sd snatcher 😄
hmm, time to import a few computers 😄
Any news from molekula? Just to see if he gave any news
he's still busy with life and family
Well, thanks for responding.
what madness
I never knew this was possible PUT SPRITE 0,(0,192),15,ASC(chr$(65))
not my code
I did some digging in SD Snatcher
during the game the video page is swapping between 0 and 1
drawing is done extremely fast
during text the video page is halted on video page 1
You will own nothing
your work?
nope
if this was my work it would have worked
so beautiful
rest in peace, legend!
have you met him?
same
chirp
moo
@TECHNOuchi the intro music with the jazzy bass is still sublime
I recognize that name! He also contributed to the DariusBurst soundtrack
yup
Open source msx player
yup
it's a fun little gadget that allows you to use the real hardware chips to play music
shooo @copper prawn shooo!! Go away!! back to your basket!
Anybody noticed his bottom arm is flapping
?
I cannot stop looking at his flapping arm....that meat flaps lol
@serene condor what a thing to concentrate on
for those who knew Nyyrikki and his father Athi - Ahti passed away
who are those
“For those who”
who?
Don’t be such an insensitive fool
sorry didn't meant to 😦
Nyyrikki is a very well known MSX guru and his dad (lesser known) is a legend in the scene too
They are from Finland
That's such a cool photo
Yeah they were quite the father son duo
I’m sorry to hear about the MSX’s communities loss. I love this photo of him and can’t think of anything that’s a greater combination of badass and nerdy in a single image.
@serene condor did anyone ever tell you that you're a weirdo?
loool
That's not the Fray from the Batman Beyond style Buffy comic spinoff!
nope
Ricbit is an insane MSX guru - it's nice that he made thise by using the google translate API
a call every second
Happy [M]ay[S]i[X]th day
I don’t get it
[M] [S] [X] match the pattern above 😛
That Westen House game looks really cool
yup
Cube Droid is great too
I've had that version for a while already
was not allowed to give out
I need help with using MSX core. I don't know exactly how to use it. On the top it shows load hdv or something like that so that did not work.. There is no choice to run dsk image games or load them in MSX. Under slot #1 and Slot #2 it is already predefined megaflash cartridges but does not give me a choice to insert a ROM in the slot and to run the game. Then after that...all I get is black screen. No famous MSX logo or basic screen. Am I missing something for the MSX core?
what VHD are you using?
none
the core does not allow me to use dsk or rom images
how do I run games in msx core?
wait
Where do I get this?
I saw in video he used vhd to go boot and this popped up. But where do I find this to put it in my MSX folder
where do I find sofarun virtual hard drive for msx core? Also can't I just use a rom and put it in slot#1? I am unable to do it with the core
Ooooor you are saying I need a real cartridge hardware expansion to hook it into misterfpga and use real cartridges?
I believe there are two MSX cores, the first of which uses a VHD setup w/ SofaRun. The core is based on the One Chip MSX
The newer core allows for direct ROM loading
Omg!!😱 I actually own one chip MSX??!!
-faints-
Those things goes minimum for 1000 dollars at least on eBay!!
Is there in archive.org all the possible vhd games released for this core
I am k with one chip MSX honest. I just need to find ways to convert my roms and disks into vhd
You are right
The VHD already has the games set up in SofaRun
Thank you!!
Should I do mister system update to get that core?
But I don't think it supports 2+ or Turbo R yet
Oooh
Yeah that's an issue
This core support 2+
But MSX2 library is pretty deep
Ooh!
Oh so One Chip core does support 2+?
does anyone here have experience connecting an actual MSX to a CRT?
I am new to this beauty, but I tried it tonight first tome and initially it worked with my Sony PVM (via a BNC adapter). However, the operation has become intermittent and now neither video nor audio is displayed... I am concerned that there may have been something wrong with the cable connection. Initially I thought it was some sync issue, but since at some point it worked perfectly fine I’m not sure…
I used a JP RGB 21-pin cable that I purchased last week and connected it to my CRT TV from 21-pin via a SCART adapter and then from SCART to BNC.
Now that it no longer works, I thought I might need to use the a RGB SCART cable directly instead of the 21-pin.
Did I fuck up?
here’s the beautiful “Playstation 0”, played Parodius for a bit and was so awesome.
I don’t have the right mono<>stereo audio cables but putting together a few rca female<> males I managed to get mono audio out and was great
Hey that’s a very old one 🙂
@serene condor there are news ones from someone called NosferatuMSX
It has a nice basic menu that you can skip if you want
I heard this person is working on a new boot.vhd
You mean it is you?!
I got that last VHD for the OCM core last night
Everything I tried started and played great
Not sure what I should be using for the CPU and turbo settings
Can I speed up the game unzipping/loading somehow?
@naive dagger no - the zip compression is already set to level 0
Still awesome, thanks to the person responsible
@naive dagger the issue with other images was that someone used the max compression level - which took ages to unpack
the reason why they are in zip file is for long filename support
8.3 format doesn't work for all the ROMs included
method = Stored
What key combination on a bluetooth keyboard must be pressed to PAUSE the game?
Depends on the keyboard vs what's the button you need to press in the core.
the keyboard is like this
tried it, doesn't work
If you go to the menu core (the core that boots up first on the mister) what does the F1 key do for you with that keyboard?
in the msx bios where is the game selection or in the msx core options menu? In the BIOS where the file manager is located, the F1 button works as a confirmation
in contra it works like PAUSE
I mean the MiSTer menu core
F1 changes the wallpaper, it will serve as a test to make sure the keyboard is using F1 when you press f1
But looks like you confirmed that.
on the msx itself there was a STOP button, probably it served as a pause
in contra it works, it probably means everything is in order with the button
Oh your keyboard doesn't seem to have pause break or scroll lock
So if the core has it mapped to pause break which positionally would be similar then you might be outta luck on that. Not totally sure.
Try end, page up, page down. Those didn't seem to exist on the msx keyboard I'm looking at
I connected a full-size keyboard, none of the buttons you mentioned work, the pause function, maybe there was no pause on msx, only if it was not provided for by the game?
yeah, i would suspect the game would have to be programmed to accept that button press as an input
try ctrl+end, ctrl+pageUp, ctrl+pausebreak
on the full size
i'm seeing a lot saying that ctrl+stop was kind of a kill switch, maybe it'll do something lol
I wanted to do this earlier, but I kept forgetting to do it 😅. I just made Westen House EX available open source in GitHub: https://github.com/santiontanon/westen-ex
💖 3 🔁 1
Thanks to Neil from RMC The cave for being a cool sport about this one :)
Alright folks, I was bored and wanted to test sth new. I might do every now and then. Who should I cover next ? Pick a single video (just one) from a youtuber you like and I'll try to "remix" them.
✅ Follow Neil's Channel : RMC - The Cave - https://www.youtube.com/c/RMC...
Pause is different per game - Konami normally uses F1 - for the keyboard you have you might have to press fn and the f1 at the same time depending what model 😉
Keep in mind that the shift F1 = F6 and shift F2 = F7 (etc)
Did the msx mainly use the keyboard for games or does the controller work for everything by default?
Controllers work real nice, plus you can get mice
Not sure if any games use the mice
You can easily mod a Mega Drive 3-button for MSX
Same connector, but wiring needs to be changed a bit
The prose on this actual MSX controller is funny to me
I had this one, which is a step above
Basically a Famicom controller that they multipurposed
You're gonna need a standard control layout like that, plus a keyboard of some sort
Originally included a thumb nub - Remember those?
Everything on the right side of that controller is so strange too
I get it, but it's an odd look
Now that I'm looking they seem to be variants
MSX hardware collecting can be a trip
Check this out, top of the original MSX line
Sadly did not get much in the way of games
I used the keyboard due to lack of good joysticks
And joypads weren’t really a thing for home computers
Panasonic made a nice one though
I would use that computer for one thing only. Business machine.
Data entry, ssearch for books in library in database, schools to keep students marks, records, receiptionist to pull out customer profile
never seen a boxed one
those always looked like they were clones of hudson's joycard
They feel good, like good NES dpad and buttons
Batty send me her NES to MSX controller
whats that an adapter
oh okay
here is the same guy with his friends 😄 lol
ok but turbo r upgrade for Sony MSX2+ models 🤯
well you will have to bear with me, i have never seen such a thing and have a HB-F1XDJ
the J stands for Japan
Gameplay of Nemesis 3 beta (v0.3)
Sample cartridge dated 1988/10/03
This sample version has several glitches that prevent finishing the game.
Also, after stage 3 the game resets the computer. But after modifying a bit the ROM it is possible to play all stages.
Thanks Arjan!
Intro demo - Music swell missing and music not timed correctly for end of demo
Stage 4 - end boss glitched out while destroyed
Stage 5 - graphical glitches when destroying 'fire seed pods'
Stage 7 - Organics don't cover the whole screen when attaching only ever other row
Stage 8 - Some minor graphical glitches like at @33:39 / End boss feet stay behind and don't get cleaned up
Stage 9 - Shield device 'find' icon looks different than in the final version / 2nd part of the end boss has stage music and minor glitching
End boss - head looks nothing like the end boss
End Demo - No sound while flashing and the emergency alarm is missing / At 'FIN" music gets broken due to Dr Venom's laugh```
my favorite jump scare of all time
I want this card
Where do get this cartridge? Seriously?
That tweet is for BEEP store in Japan, I dont know anything except whats in the tweet and what Vampier found on the website.
IIRC a couple of my MSXes were from BEEP
They are already sold out
it uses an fpga (I assume for the R800) and there are very polite disclaimers about maybe compatibility not being perfect. but where japanese modesty ends and actual problems begin I couldnt tell you
「ゲーマーズROOMサウンドプロジェクト」活動3周年を記念して、これまでアレンジした沙羅曼蛇のBGM11曲を高音質化し一つの動画にまとめました!
M2〜9、M11作曲者:東野美紀様
M1、M10作曲者:古川元亮様
編曲:ゲーマーズROOMサウンドプロジェクト
イラスト:HALHAL360様
00:00 M1:Operation Seedleek(MSX版OP)
01:53 M2:Power of Anger
04:26 M3:Fly High
06:59 M4:Planet RATIS
09:29 M5:Starfield
12:07 M6:Burn the Wind
14:41 M7:Destroy Them All
17:13 M8:Poison of Snake
19:48 ...
22 year with the openMSX team - never asked for a dime - now a bunch of fuckers come and charge 1.99euros for a crappy emulator with a codebase that's probably from BlueMSX or openMSX (I worked with the BlueMSX team as well)
wow that's outrageous!
yeah and they use cbios
well I see a certain name in the credit for that one too
20 years ago - damn 😄
"My goal is to provide a high-quality, user-friendly experience that justifies the small fee." ---right .... :)))
but I guess it is not the first and for sure not the last when ppl will use others free work to get some small potatoes
the phone emulators always do this lol
they have to charge a certain amount because after a certain number of downloads they would have to be paying for every download, but i think it's a lot lower than 2 bucks each lol
i think this is only for the apple store though
if it's on android, as long as you aren't charging for anything, don't have any ads, etc... then it shouldn't cost anything for unlimited downloads
yeah maybe apple works the same way now where free is always free as long as you aren't doing ad revenue
coulda sworn it used to be different
OPLL doesn't work? lol
okay so maybe it's not bluemsx, maybe it is a new emulator given the bugs
or as bengalack said at the end... ocm-emulator bugs present
hrmmm
what is that other emulator and what is the license for it?
I just asked
with an example of how we dealt with this last time
MSX game was released on steam using a version of openMSX with DRM built in - which was not allowed according to the license
openmsx is gpl v2 or v3?
also MSX VR was using openMSX code at one time - not sure if they still do these days
depends on the drm if it's v2, if it's v3 then yeah pretty much most drm is a no go
Some source files contain a license notice; all other source files are
licensed under the GNU Public License (GPL), of which you can find a copy
in the file 'GPL.txt'. If you got a binary release of openMSX and are
interested in the sources, please visit our home page:
https://openmsx.org/
they refused to share their DRM stuff
so therefore not sharing changes made to the code
@spark jacinth the OCM is FPGA - not C++ or whatever code
oh, well then that is kinda irrelevant then
it could be this person who wrote a bunch of OCR app frontends also can make an emulator given the huge amount of documentation already out there on the msx
true
but why do it when you can take it from a 22 year old codebase that has been optimized and perfected
yup
Is that the design where the rim around the slidey disc is the actual dpad?
Can't tell for sure but I think it's just an NES Max with fewer buttons
Sony on it. Makes me imagine some alternate reality where the PSX got a version of the NES max.
i'm trying to imagine a scenario where it's a good idea
haha I guess it might be Sony's first controller
any good suggestions for MSX controllers besides just looking at random stuff on eBay? I will be playing on the MiSTer core.
Thanks!
I have an m30 but i don't care for it. It has a nice dpad but the odd grip cheeks combined with the slipperiness make it not work for my hands
Maybe just an nes style pad
I like your joy card. That looks really cool.
@blazing basin https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-pce-2-4g
2.4G wireless gamepad for your Analogue Duo, PC engine mini, turbografx-16 mini, PC engine coregrafx mini system Switch compatibility with 2.4G USB receiver (included) Includes 2.4G USB receiver Lag Free & rechargeable built-in Lithium Ion battery Includes 2.4G Controller, 2.4G USB receiver and USB cable
Thanks! Are there any weird de9 controllers you have used and liked for msx?
Awesome. It's shaped like a dragon quest slime.
funny... talking about Golvellius
What’s news with the MSX core!?
just the framework i think
Yeah still has the bugs in the VDP
Interlace bit still broken
Whatever - reported it over 3 years ago
the only latest change on JP computer cores is for X68000 afaik
Would be nice to have that one working
No love for old japanese computers
I don’t get it
Oh well - let’s do more c64!!
JP computers deffo could use some champions
But Japan seems very different where emulation, etc is concerned
https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?p=86798#p86798 - will see ir tomorrow
I would much rather see finished X68K, PC-98, Towns than the remaining consoles
(3DO, Jag, CDi lol)
Yes it’s taboo to run software you didn’t buy for
I ran into that when someone asked me for help
And I couldn’t help him since he refused to try something
But he didn’t have a probably insulting me and telling me I didn’t know what I was talking about
Again: lost in translation
He didn’t mean it like that but it came across as such
I tested here and resolution is fixed to 800x600. I didn't notice better sounds with Chorensha
think more changes are related to floppy/dma stuff as i diagonally read it. Will see after some coffee 😄
mmm, no more characters corruption when for example list a file, scrolling it , seems to run smooth
Previous core version:
X68000 24.05.09 (didn't test yet the FDC one yet) :
to stay on topic with the channel, having fun with MSX software emulators on X68000 (EMES and FMSX), slowly deciphering them 😄
FMSX? We don’t speak this name around these parts
I was wondering if there will be a MSX turbo-R core or if the MSX 1 or 2 core supported it
We first need MSX2 core completed... we await the second coming of our lord, Molekula the MSX God
LOL I have been asking for MSX turbo-R but everyone keep saying we need MSX 2 core completed.
Although it looks completed to me.
i saw a video on it the unit - looks intresting thats for sure and it is backwards compatible too
My understanding is MSX1 core is the building block for expanding the core to be a full MSX2 core, which is still under development, and once we have a complete MSX2 core it is the building block to be expanded to a Turbo R core. However, Turbo R has chips in it that are complex that we don't have cores for and need more understanding, investigation and documentation. Furrtek was decapping and tracing some awhile back, but I am not sure what became of that.
are we forgetting about MSX2+ ?
I clearly have, so yes, another stop on the road to Turbo R we need to pass 🙂
so it looks to be a long while till we have a 2+ or a T-R core Thanks for the info all!
Most things that people want to play are on 2 I think.
What is the status with the MSX2 core? Has there been any update recently? It is a shame it hasn't been merged into Main and added to unstable nightlies
Unless someone steps up an MSX Turbo-R will never happen:
- CPU R800 (DAR800-X0G) at 28.63630 MHz external clock and 16-bit ALU.
- Yamaha YM-2413 OPLL
- T9769C MSX-ENGINE (also contains Z80A)
- V9978 Video Display Processor (best just directly go to that chip)
All are very well documented in the openMSX Project , this is a very mature emulator where the authors have done substantial non destructive tests to all chips on a most MSX machines to get the timing just right.
The current state of the MSX2 core is 'good enough' but it's still based on the OCM core with some exception for the disk controllers. I hope @craggy iris will have some time in the near future to resume work again.
Then there is the matter of ROM mappers, current ROMs do not have a header, I believe Vampier and Kintrix put some work into that already.
To make an MSX core that is plug and play ready a lot of work needs to be done on that front as well.
Currently the best collection out there is probably the one compiled by NosferatuMSX, but he/she(?) has indicated that this VHD image will not be updated anymore.
Sofarun does a decent job of auto picking most of the mappers for the ROMs
This person permits to activate the V9958 on the OSD
https://github.com/muhanpong/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/myMSX2-V9958
seems to be abandoned
It is only if we want to use max 2+. It is great for Space Manbow game 😊
Laydock 2 / F1-Spirit 3D / Golvellius MSX2 / Supercooks
Do any of the MSX cores have SNAC support as of yet? I haven't been keeping up, unfortunately.
hi can someone help me to run realfun 3 re-player (https://www.xl2s.tk/) in msx1 core ? i have select ssc+ in slot 1 and load rom in slot 2 but no sound ?!? sorry for this nub question
from the site: " needs an MSX with GFX9000, Dos 2 and of course an cartridge with an SCC for sound". https://www.msx.org/wiki/Sunrise_GFX9000
The Sunrise GFX9000 is a cartridge released in 1994 for any generation of MSX computers, built around a Yamaha V9990 Video Display Processor. The V9990 is based on the never released Yamaha V9978 VDP, which was supposed to be in the MSX3.
no for the re-player
We don't have that implemented in fpga, iirc there are decapping efforts, but don't take my word for it
it works for me, though volume is bit low
not all voice are on
only ay i think
scc doens't seem to work
Just a taste of the latest development on the Realfun 3 re-player. To make the re-player test/demo ROM a little less boring I thought lets add a few nice oscilloscope visualizations. On R800 the Oscilloscopes runs about 30 fps on Z80 a bit slower 15 to 20 fps or so. With the low resolution and low fps it does not give the full picture, but you g...
that's the right sound
did you tried it in OpenMSX ? I have (but very briefly, so for sure I missed smth) and couldn't get SCC+ sound either
Short SX-E MSX run showing some of its features. For more details visit our online store!
https://www.msxdev.org/ check the new MSXDev2024 entries from the last week
happy birthday Nemesis 2 and SCC Chip 😄
Ver 1.0 - Features
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Replace PSG BGM with OPLL YM2413 BGM released as Sega Master System Version
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By outputting OPLL YM2413 BGM and MSX PSG BGM at the same time,
you can enjoy a more enhanced BGM than any other version.
Start the game while holding down the 'f' key on the game's title screen,
Game will enter PSG simultaneo...
@karmic rover check who made the first comment on the video 😉
It is you 😅
Yeah talked about unused assets that would have made the game just as good as the SMS version
Also an update Snake going crazy
great it could be used someday 🙂
First footage from an endless runner game for MSX2/V9938 we've been working on lately😍 A tribute to Geometry Dash with our own twist. And: Wolf goes overboard with the soundtrack this time🤩! OPL4 - 42 channels. 60 FPS. MegaROM 💥https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9dR9JVVeLU #MSX2
@fallen summit do you know some tools to convert TZX to CAS file ?
I stayed away from tzx as far as possible / they really kept on bugging me about it
Ask in the openMSX server someone might know
I also hate cas files … slow and noisy
thanks I will check
Some games existed only TsX format
1988年にコナミよりMSXに発売された「エルギーザの封印」です。
エルギーザの封印は、MSX1と2で発売されていて、本動画はMSX1版になります。
パッケージの見分け方としては、表記以外には外枠に赤い線(MSX1)があるか緑の線(MSX2)があるかで分かります。
MSX1とMSX2では一長一短あり、ゲームを遊ぶ意味ではMSX1のほうが操作ストレスが無いと言われています。
タイトルに「King's valley 2」とあるように、前作は「王家の墓」になります。
本作はその続編になります。
前作のエジプトから舞台は変わり、本作は「レムール」という惑星上の調査を行っていて。
未来の宇宙の遺跡を探索しています。
レムールのピラミッドパワーが暴走し始め、地球を破壊しかねない!!
主人公...
I feel like playing Castlevania Portrait of Ruin 😄
Complete soundtrack from Castlevania Portrait of Ruin (Nintendo DS).
Tracklist ♫ (with internal time links):
- Name Entry - 0:00
- Birth of War - 02:29
- Invitation of a Crazed Moon - 03:08
- The Looming Threat - 06:08
- OPERATION VK - 07:27
- A Small Prayer - 09:50
- VICTORIAN FEAR - 11:52
- Piercing Silence - 15:57
- S...
both have timestamps
first time I played PoR I was like... I know this song... but how can that be? 😄
Generating openMSX ROMDB for new release
Do you mean new MSX core release?
soon 🎉
[固定用]
趣味でMSX用TangNano20kカートリッジを作って遊んでます。4MB拡張RAM、Nextor、メガROM、SCC、OPLL機能を実装しました。
ソース等は https://github.com/buppu3/tnCart
画像はFPGAでV9990エミュレーションした出力結果です。
#MSX #FPGA #TangNano
did some prepwork for what should become the eventual romdb for the msx core
6221 entries 😄
lol
THank you 🙂
np
didn't take much - the only thing I had to do was to add a field to the table and a few lines of code to my romscanner
no collisions detected in crc32
I have 226 roms left that need to be cataloged - this is literally the bottom of the barrel
looks like this
SHA1 is added to the start of the file so I can quickly test and add
The Next MisSter 😎
https://pastebin.com/M8S9Apim
pastebin post on how to create a VHD
Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.
The background music (BGM) in Thexder is played with 3 channels due to the MSX specifications,
but because of the sound effects (SFX), usually 1 or sometimes 2 channels are occupied, which often leads to severe degradation of the music.
In order to address this issue, I created a 2xPSG version of THEXDER. (https://youtu.be/od41EsiP24g?si=b_p...
yup added to the romdb already
i didn't managed to run it on the core I need to check on DB what is the mapper
So ASCII8 the core have sometimes issue to detect this mapper
will check it 🙂
Syntax Error in 0 😭
If I set ASCII8 it prints this error
ah
it seems not running on the core MSX1/MSX2
also with MEGASG SCC+
the core doesn't have double PSG
double PSG works with Zanac-Ex - Compile (1986) [Victor Martinez Enhancement v1.03]
it is recognized
different person
different approach
wrote a query to see what's popular the last 30 days
filtered spammers out
select `t1`.`GameID` AS `gameID`,`t1`.`GameName` AS `GameName`,`t1`.`Year` AS `Year`,`t1`.`Platform` AS `Platform`,`t2`.`hits` AS `hits` from (`romdb`.`msxdb_rominfo` `t1` join (select `romdb`.`msxdb_views`.`GameID` AS `gameid`,count(0) AS `hits` from `romdb`.`msxdb_views` where to_days(current_timestamp()) - to_days(`romdb`.`msxdb_views`.`CreateDtTm`) < 30 group by `romdb`.`msxdb_views`.`GameID`) `t2` on(`t1`.`GameID` = `t2`.`gameid`)) where 1 = 1 and !(`t1`.`IP` in (select `vwSpammerDetection`.`ip` from `romdb`.`vwSpammerDetection` where `vwSpammerDetection`.`SpammerDetected` is null)) and `t1`.`Platform` like 'MSX%' order by `t2`.`hits` desc```
seriously... who the heck can read this stuff... I put in nicely formated SQL and this is what mariadb made out of it
