#ASCII - MSX
naive dagger
I spent some time exploring the Disk Station series when I first got MSX flash cart
Good times
low barn
Love this one (and Penguin Adventure ofc) :D)))
potent abyss
Oh is that Penguin Kun Wars?
low barn
yes 🙂
potent abyss
I played that for the first time on MiSTer when it's arcade core came out
naive dagger
Have you played the Konami penguin game for Famicom? A fave of mine
potent abyss
Oh yeah
potent abyss
Yume Penguin Monogatari
naive dagger
But keeps getting fat, womp womp
potent abyss
Yep the enemies dont try to kill you, they just throw food in your mouth and make you fat lol
low barn
we know why 😛
potent abyss
beeru ~
naive dagger
Yeah he'd scarf down omuraisu for sure
Balance it out with vitality drinks
I want some so bad, it's driving me mad
fallen summit
we know why 😛
Who made black blue?
low barn
Who made black blue?
it's a very old screenshot, one of the first core version lol
low barn
gloomy sentinel
I had this one
naive dagger
Damn these are AI?
fallen summit
yup
naive dagger
Fucking hell, really good
fallen summit
naive dagger
I mean, a skilled painter could do that, but how long would it take
cyan plinth
Where did everybody live to have this much exposure to MSX? Japan?
potent abyss
MSX was available in Europe as well
cyan plinth
I tend to forget that. Did a lot of Japanese games see release there?
potent abyss
A fair amount yes, though certainly lots didnt
kindred ermine
Big in Brazil too, if I am not mistaken
coarse ravine
yeah in South America - Argentina too
they even had their own variants
I kinda want one but it's not the most compatible model (base MSX2)
warped beacon
please tell me why the controls in the game "time rider (time curb)" on msx 1chip do not work, what could be the problem?
sudden kite
Where did everybody live to have this much exposure to MSX? Japan?
MENA
wicked dawn
Where did everybody live to have this much exposure to MSX? Japan?
Brazil
potent abyss
sudden kite
🧐
naive dagger
@fallen summit
Do the "smooth scroll" hacks take advantage of the Panasonic MSX2+ 5.37 MHz mode
And are they even smoother on Turbo R?
Having a real MSX session tomorrow with a gaming buddy and want to show him the hacks
But I only have a Panny MSX2+ now, no Turbo R
fallen summit
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Do the "smooth scroll" hacks take advantage of the Panaso...
only the VDP - and they might
naive dagger
Will the MFR SCC+ cart allow me to play the "voice" hacks for Salamander(?)
I have a MFR SCC+ as well as a real Snatcher Sound Cart
I never understood the requirements for some hacks
fallen summit
push the snatcher card in slot 2
it needs dual scc
I tested for Victor back in the day
potent abyss
I have found a couple MSX2 doujin albums with full arrangements of the respective soundtracks, in FLAC
If anyone wants them let me know
naive dagger
Just got done with a good MSX session using real HW through an OSSC, projector, and home theater system
The music was pumping
naive dagger
COMPILE and Konami, predictably
Went through some Disk Station volumes, games, etc
Pleasure Hearts
potent abyss
The good stuff
rapid tide
It's interesting that MSX got both an exclusive Gradius 2 that's a completely different game and a sequel to the other Gradius II.
potent abyss
And unique salamander too
rapid tide
yup. With crazy names like Zowie Scott. I used to think names like that were localizations. Boy was I wrong.
I find it interesting that some late Colecovision games are Konami MSX ports. Cabbage Patch Kids (Athletic Land) and Antarctic Adventure.
potent abyss
The SGM ports?
rapid tide
No, these two are BITD
potent abyss
Oh okie
naive dagger
Cabbage Patch Kids has a player editor
Great game for vs. player as you strive for speedrun dominance
Don't fall down on your bum-bum and cry!
rapid tide
I don't think that's in the cart version. I think it's in the MSX and maybe the Adam version, though.
naive dagger
Yeah the MSX version lets you change the hair and clothes
We just were playing it yesterday
potent abyss
Those SGM module games are interesting. Stupidly, all have working dumps but Gradius. There is only one dump on the internet and its a bad dump and wont boot in anything.
naive dagger
But I have a weird love for single screen action games
rapid tide
It helps that Pixelboy released a few of them on the Atari Age forums.
naive dagger
Speedrunning CPK is fun because each screen is a specific series of moves you have to execute, try to nail them first time
potent abyss
I have a full working set, except for Gradius
I dont think a working dump of Gradius SGM exists
fallen summit
I dont think a working dump of Gradius SGM exists
I might have them
potent abyss
I might have them
If your Gradius SGM boots in the Colecovision core let me know
cosmic veldt
It's interesting that MSX got both an exclusive Gradius 2 that's a completely di...
Yeah - these games would actually birth some game mechanics or features for the later games (like Gradius II - Gofer's Ambition)
cosmic veldt
I have found a couple MSX2 doujin albums with full arrangements of the respectiv...
Send them my way, I'd like some~
Could be fun for my Parodius/Gradius history videos someday
potent abyss
Send them my way, I'd like some~
Could be fun for my Parodius/Gradius history v...
I DMed over a link.
marble barn
If anyone is a Furrtek patreon, I'd be curious to know what the results of this poll are:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/project-schedule-90090090
fallen summit
fallen summit
I would have picked the 1st option too - but since r800 is in my interest 🙂
naive dagger
Cool, you can read old MSX publications here
https://issuu.com/msxblog
spark jacinth
they can't wait to play these sweet tunes that totally don't sound like mid 1990's boilerplate dos midi
fallen summit
@blissful cradle the MSX has SCC/FM/PSG/OPL4
and since recently a lot more whatever you want sound chips
the amiga just blasts out PCM.... sweet samples
copper prawn
they can't wait to play these sweet tunes that totally don't sound like mid 1990...
that game just has a lot of fart noises
spark jacinth
well and PCM is what this sound chip is. i'm showing my ignorance here, but is there much value in decapping PCM chips? honest question, not throwing shade, i just through pcm was pretty much just samples and there might be some filtering, etc...
copper prawn
suffer the farts
fallen summit
sulfer the farts
copper prawn
potent abyss
hidden herald
is there any way to play a .bas file in this core? i'm trying to play this homebrew: http://ags.indiesj.com/Entry/26/
tardy shuttle
Is there a walkthrough somewhere for setting up this core? Looks like the first step is to run that sd card utility, should it be run on your main Mister sd card? Thanks!
low barn
see pinned messages the bottom link 🙂
hidden herald
is there any way to play a .bas file in this core? i'm trying to play this homeb...
for anyone wondering, i ran the .dsk file first and that sent me into BASIC, and then i ran the .bas like the FAQ says. awesome game! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yEzNfbhx4Q
naive dagger
Dang, that's like a horror version of Cabbage Patch Kids by Konami
hidden herald
this looks intimidating but it's actually easier once you figure out all the enemies
naive dagger
I shall speedrun it forthwith
low barn
Apparently there were CAD programs for MSX too back then... My first use of FD Soft CAD 3D and what it produced 😄
low barn
me neither 😄 I just clicked randomly, as I do for any software I don't know to use 😛 or too lazy to RTFM
but for sure you can do nice things 🙂 picked this up after reading on msx.org
bright rock
Holy shit that’s pretty incredible imo
low barn
bright rock
@fallen summit how good is this video - https://youtu.be/U_-NTPuz1T8
fallen summit
Saw it
Don’t agree on the slightest with it
UK oriented BS opinion
Sorry - HERO …. Ducking HERO….
potent abyss
Mine would just be all Japanese games and would also annoy Vampier
naive dagger
Mine would be all Konami and COMPILE and would annoy Vampier
eternal spindle
I like HERO, but it seems odd to me that ports like that made it so high on the list
potent abyss
Perhaps what that person really likes.. is ZX Spectrum
fallen summit
https://tenor.com/view/he-is-bloody-where-sinclair-micromen-bbc-micromen-clive-sinclair-gif-19561667
potent abyss
Good ole clive
eternal zenith
I probably will get thrown out and apologies if asked before but is there any plans to do the V9990 video board for mister?
fallen summit
nope
not that I am aware of - it's also a pretty obscure piece of hardware... but I guess with the MSX3 (if it ever will be released) it will become more the norm 😉
kindred ermine
Well, furtek recently shared decapped pictures of a v9990? That might be an avenue someday
kindred ermine
I have one of the v9990 cartridges (but only an msx2, no turbo r)
fallen summit
well unless you play certain games you don't need a turbo-r (Illusion City)
MSX2+ would be nice to have though
and there are a handful of v9900 games out there
nice bomberman clone and several MSXDev entries
bright rock
@fallen summit https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1539569.html
fallen summit
yeah - not sure what to tell you - it's a Pi Zero with emulation
fallen summit
Made in basic and has quite a lot of bugs
potent abyss
Ohh ok
fallen summit
@potent abyss it needs the gfx9000 extension
potent abyss
Ohh okay. Same for Highway Fighter?
potent abyss
I can set that up yeah
fallen summit
The openMSX channel on YouTube has a nice tutorial by some guy with a Dutch accent and a JPL shirt on 😉
tardy shuttle
I basically installed the core in order to play aleste; what other classics should I hit on msx?
naive dagger
@tardy shuttle
I would start with COMPILE and Konami games, chronologically
Those alone will keep you busy for awhile
tardy shuttle
Thanks y’all
fallen summit
I basically installed the core in order to play aleste; what other classics shou...
Aleste 2/Zanac/Zanac-Ex/Final Justice
fierce falcon
Hi. I'm having trouble getting any SCC roms to work with the MSX1 core. Most of the non-SCC roms seem to work fine. I've tried a few different BIOS files I've seen mentioned, but none have helped.
fallen summit
Just out of curiosity - which SCC roms?
fierce falcon
I've tried a few: Knightmare, Gradius 2, Yie-ar-kung-fu 2. Anything with [SCC] in the filename fails to load.
fierce falcon
Thanks. Do you mean the Slot A ROM mapper type?
Is 'auto' mapper an actual mapper type or does it mea "automatically detect mapper type"?
fierce falcon
Ah. OK. I found the Gradius 2 rom (SHA1 FD7B23A4F1C2058B966B5DDD52CF7AE44A0EEBB0) listed in your database with Remark "Needs SCC in slot 2" and Dump "Bad". So I guess I need to try to insert a ROM with SCC chip in slot 2, unless this particular rom is broken anyway.
tardy shuttle
Alright we are cooking now
potent abyss
Maybe you can explain it to me too =P
fallen summit
You already have used up all your MSX help credit 😉
potent abyss
Guess the neat SCC Master thing wont be running then, alas
fallen summit
yes that's the konamiSCC mapper
I already told you
not the MegaSCC cart you're putting into your MSX core
there is a rom layout and then there are those settings
assuming you use sofarun you just have to manually select KonamiSCC in the settings
@potent abyss
potent abyss
Could find no such option in 1chip core for KonamiSCC specifically, set it in MSX1 core but no SCC games would load at all in slot A or B
potent abyss
It shows the glitched green screen when I try to load it in 1chip, so Ill just open it in OpenMSX
tardy shuttle
Is there any type of saving on the msx1 core?
tardy shuttle
Ahhh gotcha reading about the original hardware now
So user disks and tapes pretty much
Everything I’ve thrown at the msx1 core is booting so far
Knightmare is kind of addicting haha just would be cool to save high scores
fallen summit
You can use game master for that
bright rock
You can use game master for that
What if I’m already a Game Master?
fallen summit
you're not
potent abyss
Captain N gifs intensify
green seal
I mentioned yesterday in #dev-talk about making a wrapper system for MiSTer which would be an all-in-one computer with keyboard+mouse for development. I think MSX fans (and anyone who's used C64, Amiga, etc back in the day) gets the appeal 🙂
green seal
the MSX scene had a Federation Against Commodore (FAC)
I had a C128D when I was young but never did much with it other than play a few games
green seal
I really liked Qix, I dont really remember any other games other than that and Alf lol
Has there been any new news about the MSX3 platform?
green seal
It feels a bit like an old man sort of noodling about without any real chance of it being made
fallen summit
@potent abyss
potent abyss
Does it run in 1chip?
potent abyss
1chip doesnt have specific mapper toggles AFAIK beyond the megascc cartridge option, but MSX1 does
fallen summit
you can do that in the settings in sofarun
on the game select settings
and then you can set the mapper
potent abyss
🤔
fallen summit
Yup
The game itself is even worse
The original was very controversial
Yab yum used to be a famous brothel in the Netherlands
So it’s based on that
And that’s the backstory for that game
potent abyss
There is no accounting for taste I suppose
green seal
Only a couple notches up above Custer's Revenge for the 2600 D:
kind robin
when I was writing that core there was a bug in bachelor party and it made me so sad to debug
after spending hours starting at that stupid game, wracking my brain to try try to figure out why the paddle wasn't rendering correctly, I discovered it was simply the difficult switch
green seal
Imagine 1) having an idea for a tasteless, offensive game then 2) spending the money and development time to implement it and nobody telling you, or not thinking for yourself, "maybe this is a bad idea"
start labeling those games with
potent abyss
Nice XD
fallen summit
different times and juvenile kids with basic and a keyboard
I made a demo regarding a teacher that I had at school once
it became a thing of legend after I showed it to a friend at my home
his last name was Kerkhof and that translates to graveyard
green seal
yeah but a lot of these are made by grown-ass adults
green seal
Looks like a Kancho game or smth
sudden kite
sudden kite
Wow nice
potent abyss
Thats the biggest MSX I've ever seen
fallen summit
naive dagger
I still kind of want this one
potent abyss
The wavy's front facing FDDs are always cool
green seal
I like this concept art for a PSX-based MSX-style computer https://androidarts.com/Sony/Sony.htm
green seal
Right! quite a bit more ram though lol
naive dagger
Maybe it would support smooth scrolling
green seal
Maybe it would support smooth scrolling
You'd hope... lol
naive dagger
I was playing Andorogynous last night and damn does that get choppy
green seal
Oh wow I just learned about https://segaretro.org/AX-990
naive dagger
I want it so bad
rain viper
It's using composite video out.
Also, it's probably a mega drive clone, not an official megadrive.
naive dagger
Now I don't want it
ngl I still want this freakish device
https://shop.supersoniqs.com/en/home/74-playsoniq.html
Huh, they have a few items I don't remember seeing
https://shop.supersoniqs.com/en/20-msx-hardware
green seal
ngl I still want this freakish device
https://shop.supersoniqs.com/en/home/74-pl...
oh wow!
naive dagger
I would like to have one of each item they make
Have a massive line of carts in the slot expander
green seal
https://www.msx.org/wiki/Sakhr_AX-990 has a photo of the insides (direct link https://www.msx.org/wiki/images/7/7b/Ax990d.jpg)
Notably absent is the Yamaha sound chip (as far as I can tell)
naive dagger
hurm.
green seal
I think its that unbranded TA-07 9615 chip next to the Z80 (on the genesis board)
sudden kite
I still kind of want this one
I have one, one of my best MSX computers
fallen summit
Hmm for some reason it rarred the files - didn’t even know I had rar on my computer
tardy shuttle
been enjoying the msx1 beta core!
fallen summit
fallen summit
green seal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2llNd0x264E
omg someone made one of those designs!
low barn
without the fdd (maybe a mt32pi instead) and the cartridge slots ofc, that would be a nice housing for a MiSTer too, i would guess/hope lol
potent abyss
Everybody loves that little A1 pad for MSX
Vampier sits in his ivory tower with special modded controller
low barn
lol, inspired by the other Arne's design , I wanted to transform a HitBit FX1D into a MiSTer case. I bought one as "junk" but actually was (still is) fully functional.. So yeah.. got a real MSX instead 😄
this one i mean
green seal
If you've seen their PSX mockup, I'd love to do that with a mini ITX MiSTer
naive dagger
Everybody loves that little A1 pad for MSX
This was my best MSX controller, now sold
Check out the awesome prose
Now I just use a modded OG Genesis controller
green seal
This was my best MSX controller, now sold
Check out the awesome prose
such Japanglish lol
karmic rover
For Pampas & Selene (digital version), There is 3 versions. One is usable on OpenMSX but using a specific mapper not present on the MSX Cores, other one to be used by flashing MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD but this one is also not working on the core of Molekula. The flash process failed during the process (write error).
I managed to flash a smaller game like Zanac EX using MegaFlashRom SCC+ SD it works correctly. I tried to flash also a rom with the same size of Pampas (Aleste2 hack rom) it fails at the same position during the process.
I think maybe it is an issue on the core but maybe someone managed to play on the MiSTer. Thanks for your feedbacks
fallen summit
Vampier sits in his ivory tower with special modded controller
❤️ NES FTW
potent abyss
Use the force Picard
tardy shuttle
It’s nice to be able to bind up to a trigger button also for these games where up on the dpad is jump
potent abyss
tardy shuttle
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7106/
Looks interesting
potent abyss
There is a nice SCC hack of Akumajo Dracula on MSX2 IIRC
tardy shuttle
The msx version looks hard af, haven’t actually tried it yet though
potent abyss
Its obtuse and doesnt have gameplay as tight as the FDS/NES/FC version but its interesting and has some unique things about it. Kind of a predecessor to Castlevania 2 in its own way
tardy shuttle
Will definitely jump on it at some point! I think I grabbed the version you’re talking about
tardy shuttle
Do y’all ever just hop in VC and go through random games?
tardy shuttle
Space Manbow is my favorite on the system
Are you a big shmup player?
potent abyss
I love them, admittedly Im not the best at them though
potent abyss
Aleste 2 is great
naive dagger
Did we get Thunder Cross cores? The closest thing to Manbow line of shooties IIRC
Kind of forgotten Konami games
potent abyss
Not yet, though JT is saying a new Konami arcade shmup is coming out this Friday
And speculation abounds
I had a Thunder Cross pcb for a while, Im fond of the game
naive dagger
Does Manbow 2 amount to much? Fan-made, right?
potent abyss
Its not great =\
naive dagger
alas
potent abyss
Just my opinion
I was playing it and out of nowhere random downsampled stuff from metal slug
Im good thanks
Theres good homebrew on MSX mind you, but that aint it
naive dagger
Hard to top the original Manbow, aside from scrolling limitations
Aleste 2 is probably the best shooter on MSX
naive dagger
Aleste 2 and Rude Breaker are nice companions to MUSHA
Aleste 1 is good on SMS, but the flicker on MSX is cray
potent abyss
Rude Breaker is PC98 I thought, my brain might be fried after work though
naive dagger
Yep. I'm just referring to the Aleste world of games
potent abyss
Oh okie ^_^
fallen summit
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7106/
oh mp83 and Lars18th teamed up 🙂
tardy shuttle
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/7106/
Well I can confirm this boots at least
It’s looking like an odd one
Not much controller support in this game, I gotta get a better keyboard setup
gloomy sentinel
Rude Breaker is PC98 I thought, my brain might be fried after work though
You are right
cyan horizon
Better than the original SCC OST?
I dont think so
fallen summit
Guess the MSX game for the last 5 images
fallen summit
English translation I hope
Did you see my post about MSX translations doing the eggerland 2 remake and also turning it into eggerland 4 😉
tardy shuttle
Nice I’ll check it out!
gloomy sentinel
low barn
https://msx.org/news/challenges/en/msxdev23-29xeldenring - amazing, all I can say 🙂
green seal
https://msx.org/news/challenges/en/msxdev23-29xeldenring - amazing, all I can sa...
wow very impressive!!
fallen summit
I talked to Santi about the release 🙂 that guy is seriously impressive in what he does
needed to get some clarification about the version numbers that msxdev uses vs what he uses
fallen summit
fallen summit
```From MSX Magazine February 1985 issue. In the article introducing the game and production staff for Rollerball,'' Satoshi Iwata is introduced as the person in charge of the production of character creation tools, which are somewhat difficult.'' Next to Mr. Iwata was Mr. Satoshi Matsuoka, the person in charge of the development of what would later become Fugaku (a rather difficult one).
that's a lot of big names right there
Satoru Iwata = ex CEO of Nintendo
Satoshi Matsuoka >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Matsuoka
wicked dawn
Monkey Academy
wicked dawn
Magical Tree
wicked dawn
Pippols?
wicked dawn
Yie-ar Kung-fu
fallen summit
@wicked dawn yup 🙂 these came from @samor in another discord server
cyan horizon
Hey guys, any idea on what's going on with the FANTASTIC MSX2 core? It's been 6 months without updates on https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/tree/MSX2test/releases, and the core never got to update_all
stray reef
Hey guys, any idea on what's going on with the FANTASTIC MSX2 core? It's been 6 ...
I‘m very much waiting for the full version of the new msx core and I visit discord here every day but I’m sad that I haven‘t heard good news in a long time. Maybe the developer is very busy. I earnestly hope that his work will continue.
violet knoll
Hey guys, any idea on what's going on with the FANTASTIC MSX2 core? It's been 6 ...
Last time Molekula said it was full of work, so progress is a bit slow. I haven't seen anything since then I think it's been about 3 months
#1056033525922537542 message
cyan horizon
Ah, he must be snowed under a TON of work then
I hope he's doing well, he's the most dedicated MSX FPGA fan
light panther
What is missing from the new MSX2 core that could be added to make it better than it already is? I hadn't really delved into MSX before getting a mister so I'm genuinely curious
naive dagger
2+ and Turbo R support?
violet knoll
I hope he's doing well, he's the most dedicated MSX FPGA fan
And for that reason alone, it deserves as much time as it wants, I'm happy that there is someone committed to bringing a better msx experience to everyone, I started to like it even more after this molekula core
We will certainly be delighted with a new update when it appears.
rapid tide
What is missing from the new MSX2 core that could be added to make it better tha...
Y/C support?
naive dagger
There are actually a few games which support MIDI music also
fallen summit
illusion city is one of them
naive dagger
I had a Turbo R + MT-32 setup for a bit and the Illusion City intro is pretty sweet
fallen summit
if only it had a good translation
fallen summit
I never really played the game
fallen summit
i have seen a few things that are going to be announced at goto40
this weekend in Amsterdam
going to be fun 😄
fallen summit
ok guys
I couple of months ago I posted pictures from Illusion City
we were working on something cool
and since the lead dev has posted this I can now make this an official announcement
potent abyss
Wow, nice
Hope there will be an "HD install" version available, and it can work on MiSTer's core..
blazing basin
And the face is mirror finish (though only a sticker)
I just saw this. It looks so cool but the buttons are a bit low?
naive dagger
I see what you mean, but it's still good for an MSX controller
Pretty sure it's a rejiggered Famicom controller and they put that small sticker over the Select and Start button holes
blazing basin
I like it better than how Famicom looks
naive dagger
Weird, they have Famicom-style controllers for Switch? What does the mic do on P2??
I guess maybe it transmits input levels like the original
blazing basin
Yeah I guess maybe it would work for Zelda?
blazing basin
hhm yeah I think you're right-that MSX controller is basically Famicom.
I don't know if I would enjoy yell-to-jump, but I'm not every user.
potent abyss
Yell to jump
naive dagger
We must never forget
fallen summit
Hope there will be an "HD install" version available, and it can work on MiSTer'...
Turbo-R only
naive dagger
I wonder how long that game actually is
The game I really want to play through is Shin Maou Golvellius
potent abyss
Emulator it is
fallen summit
The game I really want to play through is Shin Maou Golvellius
MSX1 or MSX2 version?
coarse ravine
played a bit of Knightmare on this beauty yesterday
Id want one if it was msx2 (so it could run mostly everything)
rapid tide
MSX1 or MSX2 version?
I'm guessing MSX2 since he used the word "Shin" and I think the MSX1 version would just be "Maou Golvellius"
fallen summit
played a bit of Knightmare on this beauty yesterday
what brand is that?
fallen summit
I'm guessing MSX2 since he used the word "Shin" and I think the MSX1 version wou...
2 disks - there is an professional English translation
it's on a certain VHD created by NosferatuMSX
coarse ravine
@fallen summit General: https://www.msx.org/wiki/General_PCT-50
fallen summit
I'm looking if openMSX has it yet as a config
funny to see the carnivore 2 in the slot
bright rock
played a bit of Knightmare on this beauty yesterday
Playing games in an MSX sure sounds like a Knightmare
potent abyss
bright rock
That’s not fair, getting mad at me in the #1056033525922537542 channel is @fallen summit’s job
naive dagger
played a bit of Knightmare on this beauty yesterday
I have never seen one of those
naive dagger
MSX1 or MSX2 version?
coarse ravine
Playing games in an MSX sure sounds like a Knightmare
the MSX has lots of fun games, give it a try!
bright rock
the MSX has lots of fun games, give it a try!
Oh I’m sorry, I was making a bad joke. The MSX is really cool and thanks to the awesome community make that software pack on the MiSTer I’m able to enjoy it!
bright rock
#GOTO20 is where the real announcements happen
fallen summit
@bright rock grown ups are talking about old stuff - why don’t you go and play with your duplo legos? 😉
Or monkey academy on the MSX1
naive dagger
Cabbage Patch Kids
He can use the character editor to create a Robby
bright rock
naive dagger
😢
bright rock
I should stop, someone will take me seriously one day lol
also I should play more MSX
naive dagger
It's pretty foundational for JP gaming
But I will admit it can be a bother to play on real HW, due to prices and how flash carts work
My MSX2+ looks razor sharp through an OSSC via RGB, which is nice
But I'm still going to sell the whole setup soon
Need to try out the current openMSX
fallen summit
It’s a fucking MSX3 you absolute dork!! It’s not yet released
bright rock
It’s a fucking MSX3 you absolute dork!! It’s not yet released
LOL that makes my trolling even funnier
fallen summit
bright rock
potent abyss
MSX3
Old before birth
potent abyss
https://tenor.com/view/stare-angry-mad-black-snake-moan-samuel-l-jackson-gif-174...
Don't get grumphy!
naive dagger
fallen summit
It gets annoying when people like @bright rock try to undermine your love for MSX. How dare he question my religion for this old godlike computer. I know he is young and inexperienced and probably was dangling in a diaper tree in china when the MSX was released…. But seriously …. Do not blasphemy against our heavenly sky daddy Mr Nishi!!
naive dagger
I would gladly play more MSX if my OG setup were less convoluted
Or we had a core with full support thru Turbo R
It seems like it could be cool to have openMSX running on a tiny pi setup that I could carry around
fallen summit
I would gladly play more MSX if my OG setup were less convoluted
Or we had a cor...
Sedai Linux
fallen summit
let's continue
guess the game
both are MSX1 games btw
this one is better -removing the other one
bright rock
DIZZY!
potent abyss
Dizzy or Eggerland/Lolo?
potent abyss
https://tenor.com/view/ew-clint-eastwood-gif-10176901
rapid tide
Hustle Chumy?
fallen summit
it's on a raft in the water 😄
potent abyss
a van down by the river
rapid tide
it's on a raft in the water 😄
I know. I was thinking of that game, but the mice looked more like the ones in Hustle Chumy. NM. They do look more like the ones in Mopiranger.
karmic rover
spark hamlet
ugamma isn't that bad (Uchūsen Gamma)
fallen summit
Here are 3 more to decipher 😉
spiral berry
Cyber maze runner?
Blade puzzle virus?
potent abyss
Uhm.. Illusion City, and Eggerland maybe. Dunno the tank one at all
jagged hound
Snatcher, battletank and puyu puyu?
fallen summit
ok for the tank game - excep this one had too many tanks
fallen summit
Uhm.. Illusion City, and Eggerland maybe. Dunno the tank one at all
you got 2 right 🙂
fallen summit
Snatcher, battletank and puyu puyu?
could have been Snatcher since it has the same feel to it - It's Illusion City
2 for the same game series....
couldn't get the space ship right though
potent abyss
uhh
Its a mixture of biological and mechanical, which is a gradius/salamander trope
potent abyss
Aleste I guess
fallen summit
Dia51 gone wild 😄
spring haven
Abadox
fallen summit
Bonus one 🙂
not for a game but while I was making the Aleste one this showed up
which is damn awesome
I requested all drawings the the style of Chris Foss
naive dagger
That's cool
Good thing it has a big eye to shoot
BTW the SMS Aleste is pretty great
Manic shooting action
I like to use the SMS core for extra sprites
Imagine if the MSX3 had been more like a Genesis
coarse ravine
Here are 3 more to decipher 😉
the Blade-Runnereqsue pic on the left would make a great cover
bright rock
fallen summit
⁉️
rapid tide
ok for the tank game - excep this one had too many tanks
Tank Battalion?
rapid tide
guesses on new pics. First in second row, SD Snatcher. Second in second row, Chase the Express. 3rd in 3rd row, Metal Gear. 1st in 5th row, Yie Ar Kung Fu 2.
3rd in 4th row, Laydock?
naive dagger
Cheated thru Aleste for SMS last night
Basic graphics but I like how they get more and more bio-mech as you go
Flashbacks to early days of shmup training
The core works a treat with turbo, extra sprites, and FM music
potent abyss
fallen summit
guesses on new pics. First in second row, SD Snatcher. Second in second row, Cha...
yup - the bird on the cannon is a stretch btw 😄 - Only it's a girl with Latok Merch... she has blue hair and seems to be Obsessed with Latok 😄
rapid tide
The car and the ghost is F1-Spirit
and the straw hat guy in the field with ghosts is Pippols
rapid tide
yup - the bird on the cannon is a stretch btw 😄 - Only it's a girl with Latok M...
She wouldn't happen to share the name of a certain comic book character that was spun off from Buffy the Vampire Slayer? Fray?
fallen summit
ding
indeed
The bird on the cannon just fired something... Fire Bird!!!
bad joke on Samor's end 😄
rapid tide
ahh. I usually think Phoenix for that one, since that is how some of the manga was localized.
Hi no Tori
fallen summit
Hen Hen Hi No Tori
or 'Hi no tori: Hôô-hen' to be 100% exact 🙂
I got the cart here - you can't outMSX me 🥳
that sounded cocky lol
naive dagger
But do you have a Turbo R
rapid tide
I don't have any JP computers. I just use MiSTer for MSX stuff currently. I do have a couple JP Saturns, an AV Famicom, a couple JP DCs, and a JP PSX, though.
fallen summit
😄 \o/
fallen summit
spark hamlet
I thought x68k was more expensive out there 
naive dagger
A complete-in-box XVI would probably be quite expensive also
A few years ago, you could get a minty Turbo R GT (computer only, no box etc.) for about $550 on Yahoo
Add the pandemic and the CIB status, and you get wacky prices like above
ebon knoll
the yen got cheap and everyone did a rush with buyee
and everything shot up even on yaj
naive dagger
If I had to buy one high-end JP pasokon, it would be this one:
naive dagger
The thing about X68K though, is that many of the famed ports are available already on MiSTer
Or will be arriving before too long
To buy an X68K, I'd have to be more interested in Doujin probably
And recap jobs
ebon knoll
I'd just like a 286 era PC98 but lol
naive dagger
To me, PC-98 would be fun to explore
Not sure how you get one set up with warez, disk emulator, etc
ebon knoll
there's floppy emulators out there that are compatible
I bits to use CF cards as hard drives
naive dagger
I wonder if there are community HDD images like for X68K
ebon knoll
yeah well, there are specfically for nekoproject
ebon knoll
np2fmgen is my favored pc98 emulator
and is probably I guess just what I'm sticking with because lol at buying a pc98 now I guess
naive dagger
The PC-98 experience:
Hey, this looks like a cool visual novel ... game
Wow, the graphics and music are awesome
Let me click a few of these dialogue options and see what happens...
👀
bow chika-wow wow
rain viper
Uh, what?
spark hamlet
Is it worth a recapped x68k with sd2sci for 1300? (without keyboard and monitor)
ebon knoll
sounds like a bad deal you should just send that to me and I'll take care of it
fallen summit
I had a fun thing given to me
came in as a scan from a magazine
someone who clearly didn't know basic typed this in
and then couldn't get it to work
I spend an hour debugging and it worked - cute litle basic program
run #1 gameplay was non existent
switched over to SVI 318 some text showed up
Found a goto that was going to 300 instead of 380 control started working
I found some draw command that was missing a direction and corrected that... all the small L letters showed up as 1 in the code... pretty annoying
so with that knowledge I added 2 more elements
game from 1987
bright rock
fallen summit
did a port to the MSX while I was at it
potent abyss
spiral berry
Swedish-made Q-bert clone you can grow yourself. Pretty nice.
fallen summit
slim stirrup
So two questions: I want to try the translation for Shiryou Sensen 2: War of the Dead Part 2, I got @fallen summit's vhd release but that one isn't in it. Is there a way to load the dsk files and play? Second, I tried loading the first game and get an sram error from the game. Is there more setup that I have to do to get it to work? I tried matching the config directions included with the vhd
fallen summit
@slim stirrup you know you can download the VHD and if you click on the file in windows it will mount as a virtual harddisk
you can then drag and drop files onto the VHD
XX:\collections\disks
slim stirrup
I did not know that, thanks for the info!
fallen summit
it's how I update the VHD myself as well
fallen summit
🅼🆂🆇
fallen summit
naive dagger
Hi no Tori is pretty cool
potent abyss
Better than the Famicom adaptation IMO. Though different chapters of the manga I think
fallen summit
I replaced the label on the penguin adventure cart
Photoshopped something together
rapid tide
Better than the Famicom adaptation IMO. Though different chapters of the manga I...
I assumed that at first, but apparently, both games are based on the same chapter, which was localized as "Karma" for the Phoenix manga adaption.
Gao is actually the main character in both games, but I assumed it was a different character since he's shown mostly from the back in the MSX game.
potent abyss
Ahh
Not familiar with hi no tori terribly well. Ive only seen the uchuu hen ova adaptation because yoshiaki kawajiri worked on it. A strange fusion of art styles, that one.
cyan plinth
Did their awesome painter die shortly before adventure penguin?
fallen summit
No
potent abyss
fallen summit
yes indeed
cyan plinth
I know I’ve asked before but is there like an AmigaVision or Flyn’s style quick and easy MSX launcher/collection for MiSTer?
My brain is too tired to learn another computer platform.
Installing OS/2 burned that part of my brain out for a while.
potent abyss
The 1chip core only uses VHDs, and the good ones use sofarun
potent abyss
Yes, it has those. There might be a certain vampire type person around here somewhere you could DM regarding those.
cyan plinth
I sshed into my mister from my phone and wget something promising from a nosferatumsx I found
slim stirrup
Or an esoteric youtube channel with a setup guide that has a description that can help you out
bright rock
I love MUHSEX
slim stirrup
Muhsex too is also pretty nice
fallen summit
I sshed into my mister from my phone and wget something promising from a nosfera...
Those darn “vampire”MSX dudes are all over the place
bright rock
grow up manchild!!
I’m not the one playing old video games!
fallen summit
Said the admin of a gathering place of people that like to do the same
@bright rock try harder 🙂 and happy new year
bright rock
<@314946127487172609> try harder 🙂 and happy new year
lol Happy New Year!
ripe flame
hi there, I'm trying the MSX1 core for the first time and I'm unsure about how to setup the bios. I found an archive with the bios in a .MSX format however the core seems to expect .rom files : should I only rename them to .rom ?
ripe flame
thanks, I've just tried both test cores and I have a black screen when launching them
ripe flame
I tried to rename the relevant .MSX files from the linked biospack to boot*.rom as listed by @fallen summit here : #1056033525922537542 message
but without success (black screen and my MiSTer hangs so I need to do a hard reboot)
the files SHA-256 in the message do not corresponds to the ones for the .MSX files in the pack anyway
ripe flame
yes I tried it too (that's the one which does not start at all on my side)
I could play a bunch of roms from the official MSX1 release but not from the test releases in the MSX2test branch
fallen summit
Use the official OCM core and the. VHD for now
marble barn
Does BIOS database included in update all not grab all the MSX BIOS files needed?
fallen summit
OCM based MSX core has bios included on VHD (massive pain to build those VHDs from scratch)
MSX1 core bas BIOS roms
MSX2 core has system packs that need to be loaded
the MSX FAQ I wrote was for the unreleased MSX2 core
void houndBOT
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kind robin
I'm missing 'Manage Webhooks' permissions needed to perform this action.
you're lying
void houndBOT
I'm missing 'Manage Webhooks' permissions needed to perform this action.
kind robin
kind robin
maybe it's forums thing
I guess despite the good intentions this bot will be problematic
maybe it's an intermittant issue, ill give it an hour
and then boot it
marble barn
Oh nice, does the 240p TS work well with the current MSX1 core?
I saw it was also being adapted for Colecovision and SG-1000
fallen summit
yeah I talked to Oscar about it 🙂 it's nice... yes should work on the msx1 core
fallen summit
240p Test Suite - Oscar Toledo Gutierrez (2024) [original] [8209].rom
there we go - the first entry of 2024 added to the romdb
fallen summit
that's already being done on another level
https://github.com/ValleyBell and https://github.com/grauw have been working on that with Artemio
it hasn't been done for the mister core afaik
ivory spruce
Hi guys. Could anyone assist me in getting MSX set up? I'm having a hard time finding a step by step guide by googling. I understand that MSX is one of the easier computer cores to set up.
slim stirrup
I followed this https://youtu.be/rEXPdeAKvAc?si=mJKJsEN6gEl6cgAX
ivory spruce
I followed this https://youtu.be/rEXPdeAKvAc?si=mJKJsEN6gEl6cgAX
Thank you. I tried that, but the link he provided in his description for the vhd doesn't seem to work.
slim stirrup
Thank you. I tried that, but the link he provided in his description for the vhd...
It is just an archive link, it just doesn't load?
ivory spruce
It is just an archive link, it just doesn't load?
it linkks to NosferatuMSX's page which has several packs to download, but none was a vhd.
ivory spruce
It is just an archive link, it just doesn't load?
I just realized the one I didn't try isliterallyy called "direct boot vhd"... i think Im all set. thanks!
ivory spruce
It is just an archive link, it just doesn't load?
the menu that VGE's MSX core boots into a menu "sofarun" but mine doesn't do that, 1chip is just black screen, the other cores boot into a blue screen with a prompt. his video skips right to the menu.
slim stirrup
When you open the core can you select your vhd from the osd?
@fallen summit would know best
ivory spruce
which core do I want to use 1chipmsx or msx1?
slim stirrup
I used the 1chip
fallen summit
the directboot images are just collections of games that boot directly
nosferatuMSX made those because of popular demand
ivory spruce
that seemed to work, mounted a vhd in 1chip and i'm in! thank you!
ivory spruce
i've got one called bootVBS.vhd that's about 2.7gb
fallen summit
Ew
That one has zip files compressed with the highest compression levels
@ivory spruce check dm
dusk wedge
May I just invade this conversation?
I went to nosferatumsx archive.org site, got "Release 2023-02-25.zip", which has a boot.vhd of about 1GB. Sent that to my MiSTer, went into the 1chip core, did the changes in the readme.txt and got nothing. Tried following the video (which doesn't do the changes), got nothing. Any sugestions?
fallen summit
Should work
dusk wedge
It doesn't, unfortunately... just a black screen
Does it need bios, if using the vhd?
ivory spruce
It doesn't, unfortunately... just a black screen
this is an etremely dumb question from a super noob, but did you mount the .vhd and reset?
dusk wedge
this is an etremely dumb question from a super noob, but did you mount the .vhd ...
Yup. Selected the first option, to load the vhd, and then manually reset. I also tried marking the option that resets after loading the vhd.
ivory spruce
Yup. Selected the first option, to load the vhd, and then manually reset. I also...
I should have assumed, sorry
dusk wedge
What I don't know is about bios. I have none there.
dusk wedge
I should have assumed, sorry
Oh no, don't worry. These mistakes are often prone to happen, so you did good on suggesting 😁
Not even sure if there's another core out there. Mine has a date of march 1st 2023. (23.03.01)
earnest herald
Maybe try mounting the vhd on your PC? Make sure the file is valid and it didn’t get borked when you transferred it to your mister?
karmic rover
Normally with the vhd you have a readme explaining options to set on the OSD did you set them ?
fallen summit
OCM works best in z80 mode no turbo
the OCM VHD has the bios on the VHD thats how that thing works
the MSX1 core needs bios files
the MSX2 core needs bios packs
the OCM core supports up to MSX2+
dusk wedge
Maybe try mounting the vhd on your PC? Make sure the file is valid and it didn’t...
Just did that, seems to be working fine. Lots of files there, the roms were all there like it's shown in the video.
dusk wedge
Normally with the vhd you have a readme explaining options to set on the OSD did...
In the readme there are only some options to set in the core, which I did at first and still didn't work.
It seems like it's something I'm overlooking, because it doesn't seem to be that hard to make this work, since there's a load VHD file right on the core menu.
I tried getting a new rbf from github, but it's the same.
It's probably something dumb, like Shinobi Legions on the Saturn core which you had to disable the pad2 or it wouldn't work 🙃
karmic rover
It's probably something dumb, like Shinobi Legions on the Saturn core which you ...
this case could happens also on real hardware.
For MSX, is your VHD named boot.Vhd ? If it is the case it could boot automatically during the load of the core ?
Could please make a picture of the OSD to verify you used the correct MSX core (OCM one)
dusk wedge
this case could happens also on real hardware.
For MSX, is your VHD named boot.V...
Is it case sensitive? it's boot.vhd, all lower caps
The OSD for OCM is all blank.
on the other MSX1 core, it boots to the blue prompt for MSX-DOS
Im trying to copy the boot.vhd over the SD card reader instead of the network to see if maybe the file got corrupted somewhat
karmic rover
on the other MSX1 core, it boots to the blue prompt for MSX-DOS
The OSD you have nothing on the option ?
karmic rover
on the other MSX1 core, it boots to the blue prompt for MSX-DOS
yes it is normal ! You can after load cart rom or floppy dsk files
dusk wedge
The OSD you have nothing on the option ?
Sorry, I misuderstood. There are options on the OSD, just it boots to a blank screen.
I was only using a controller before, but now I tried with a keyboard as well
I also tried with the turbo option, megascc 1mb and 2mb,with both z80 and r800
karmic rover
Ok so it is the correct core.
Could you please try to set Reset after mount to Yes just in case ?
and try to mount the vhd again
if it is still black it means the vhd on your sdcard is not good
is it zipped ?
dusk wedge
Sure. I had that enabled before. Just disabled when I reset settings
dusk wedge
is it zipped ?
Yes
karmic rover
so you need to unzipped it
dusk wedge
if it is still black it means the vhd on your sdcard is not good
I already tried copying it over the network
dusk wedge
so you need to unzipped it
Sorry, no, it's a boot.vhd file not zipped
The zipped files are inside when I mounted it to my pc
Do I need the MSX.CFG that comes with the release?
karmic rover
can you please make a screenshot of your folder games\MSX ?
karmic rover
Do I need the MSX.CFG that comes with the release?
you can use it it set automatically the right OSD options
dusk wedge
should I just copy it to the games folder?
karmic rover
it is on /media/fat/config folder
dusk wedge
The other folders were my previous ROMs
karmic rover
the other folders will not be accessible by the MSX OCM core just datas on the VHD will be accessible for information
dusk wedge
Yeah, I removed them for now
karmic rover
for the size of the VHD I have that on my side : 1,1 GB (1 073 742 336 bytes)
so maybe there is an issue to copy it on the SD Card
dusk wedge
for the size of the VHD I have that on my side : 1,1 GB (1 073 742 336 bytes)
Same here
karmic rover
it is very strange ....
dusk wedge
Indeed
karmic rover
I don't understand
the md5sum of the vhd file is 9e2c92db71adc3a2a68c69638bac66ce
have you issue with VHD file on other cores like AO486 ?
dusk wedge
Ive never used VHD files before... I only used HDF files on the x68k core.
karmic rover
ok
dusk wedge
the md5sum of the vhd file is 9e2c92db71adc3a2a68c69638bac66ce
Trying to see that, but it's taking a while
Very frustrating... I'll try some other time.
But thanks for all the help @karmic rover!
low barn
there is a readme file in the package, have you checked it ? For best performance pick the following option in the MSX core (or see included msx.cfg file):
- Speed: Turbo (F11-turbo)
- CPU Type: r800
- Slot1: MFRSCC+ 1MB
- Slot2: MFRSCC+ 2MB
dusk wedge
there is a readme file in the package, have you checked it ? For best performanc...
Yeah, I tried that... didn't work
karmic rover
But thanks for all the help <@563099752821162026>!
sorry not finding the root cause maybe somebody else will have other tests
dusk wedge
sorry not finding the root cause maybe somebody else will have other tests
No worries 🙂
karmic rover
maybe try with new SDCard
low barn
I suppose you did an update_all , the MSX core (the rbf file) is in the _Computer folder, the VHD in /games/MSX, right ?
dusk wedge
I suppose you did an update_all , the MSX core (the rbf file) is in the _Compute...
I did several, last night, actually, because of the updated Saturn core (only to read here that it's not there yet 🤣 ).
But I did add a new RBF file the in the _Computer folder, in case my previous one was corrupted or something.
The VHD is in /games/MSX/ yes.
I think it's the same witchcraft that prevents me from using wired controllers on my MiSTer 🙃
low barn
weird.... try to Reset Settings (I think, as I don't have the MiSTer on right now) on the second OSD page of the OCM MSX core ? then try again setting up the core/mount the vhd etc
or just delete the msx.cfg file in the /media/fat/config folder
dusk wedge
weird.... try to Reset Settings (I think, as I don't have the MiSTer on right no...
I already did try that too 🤣
low barn
then i'm out of ideas for now :D))
dusk wedge
or just delete the msx.cfg file in the /media/fat/config folder
I didn't do that, but I did replace the msx.cfg with the one that came with the VHD file
low barn
been a while since I used OCM lol, I mostly use Molekula's MSX1/2 one for an year or so
dusk wedge
The MSX1 core is working with ROM files, but I don't have a MSX2 core. Is it the same?
I tried running an MSX2 rom in the msx1 core and it didn't work
low barn
officially released (and picked up by update_all script) is the MSX1. You need to use the test release(see the pinned https://vampier.net/MSX/ link)
dusk wedge
ohh right
I really need to get myself a dedicated keyboard for the mister if I want to delve into these computer cores! 🙃 also want to try the PC98 and x68k properly
low barn
basically get the latest RBF (https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/MSX1_MiSTer/blob/MSX2test/releases/) get the Vampier's Bios pack from his page, and that's all
low barn
yes
so games (ROMs, DSK images, VHD etc) will go in the /games/MSX1 folder, same for bios pack files etc
dusk wedge
so games (ROMs, DSK images, VHD etc) will go in the /games/MSX1 folder, same for...
How do I put the bios files?
Oh nice... it reads into the zip file
low barn
extract them in the /games/MSX1 folder, that's what I do (well, I made my own .msx files) but should be the same
low barn
I use the Sony HB-F1XD mk2, as it's the same as my real MSX
low barn
I like better this core for being able to direct load of ROMs, disks etc 🙂
it's not finished yet, but for what I checked/tested, it works quite good for most of games/soft/demos
dusk wedge
funny how changing the mapper I got an even different audio output
funny for me that has ever only used an MSX1 decades ago 🙃
And OMG is Space Manbow a jerky game 🤣
junior juniper
anybody know how to get past the game over screen in Snatcher? none of the keys seem to do anything and having to reset the core and load the game up again to try again is a pain
I found a thread on the forum with someone having the same problem but no answers https://misterfpga.org/viewtopic.php?t=5016
dusk wedge
Thanks for the help @low barn !!
low barn
anytime 🙂
fallen summit
Oh, I changed the Mapper and it worked
aleste has ascii8 as a mapper
dusk wedge
aleste has ascii8 as a mapper
yeah, I ended up trying them out until it worked
dusk wedge
ohhh sweet!
dusk wedge
https://romdb.vampier.net/index.php?search=aleste
wow, there are 16 different roms??
fallen summit
I've been doing this for 20 years'
if I found a rom on the internet I added to it
4 of those roms are not in my collection
see the red crosses on the right side
the once with a heart checked are the ones that are currated to be used
in this case 2 of them
goodmsx and the iphone translation by woomb
dusk wedge
I think I got the GoodMSX set. I got it from a reddit site
fallen summit
hehehehe - goodMSX is so outdated
dusk wedge
I think I got the GoodMSX set. I got it from a reddit site
yeah, not from reddit. Dunno where from though 🤣 I already have them unpacked here
got MSX, MSX2 and Turbo R
dusk wedge
No, not really... it's been a lot of years since I've done anything with the MSX over emulators.
Geez, the MSX was probably one of my first internet searches when I got internet at home 🤣
fallen summit
I'm part of the openMSX team
I wrote most of the cheats for blueMSX and openMSX
I am the admin of the romdb for openMSX
and then some other stuff here and there
dusk wedge
Ohh nice!
I have a ton of nostalgia for the MSX. It was my first computer and videogame.
fallen summit
msx was nice
sudden kite
MSX was glorious
dusk wedge
Yeah! And I only managed to have the MSX1, so I used to drool reading the magazines and seeing Metal Gear and all that.
Heck, one of my first internet websites, back in geocities (that's old!) was some kind of walkthrough for The Castle 🤣
bright rock
I've been doing this for 20 years'
I’ve been doing this for 21 years, I win!
fallen summit
The romdb you absolute dork
fallen summit
I did an audit on the MAME MSX bios code
666 values appear form which 318 are unique
23 lines with sha1 values are commented out in de source code
153 lines are marked as 'need verification'
173 lines indicate a bad dump
31 of the unique SHA1 values are not in the openMSX romdb
which means that in all my journey for the last 21 years I did not stumble upon them```was doing some prep work for the next version of the 240p test suite for the MSX
bright rock
is there an update to the sofarun msx thing
slim stirrup
How many dracula themed msx fans are there? 
fossil parrot
I've been messing around with the MSX1-test core today, and basically getting it working with loading ROMs directly, but I have at least one remaining question about saving. Also wondering if there's an easier way to do anything I'm doing so far.
- I've put the latest test build of the core on my MiSTer.
- I've put the BIOS pack from Vampier's site in the MXS1/games directory.
- I load up one of the BIOS ROMs. I'm really not sure which one to use, but I've been using "Sony HB-F1XD mk2" because I saw someone mention it above. I'm also not sure which option in the Core menu I should be using to load it, so I've been using "Load ROM Pack X.msx" which seems like a weird option for this, but it works?
- I load a game into a Slot A, and then sometimes change the mapper type off auto if needed.
For saving I think I need to load Game Master into Slot A and the game into Slot B (which I did get working), but then also a blank disk/tape which is the last piece I'm stuck on. I'm not sure how I'd generate that file.
Thanks so much if anyone can help me with this!
karmic rover
Hi for which game you want to save ?
if it is for Metal Gear you need to follow those steps
"you could use Game Master 2 and use save disk functionality.
So you need to put Game Master 2 in slot 1, Metal Gear in slot 2 and mount a blank disk (dsk)
in game you need to call save disk function of game master 2 and save your progress on the disk."
https://www.msx.org/wiki/Konami_Game_Master_2#Saving_Game_State_to_Disk
fossil parrot
Metal Gear will probably be the first game I actually play through on this, though it was more just about making sure I could get saving working before trying to start playing something.
My problem is I don't know how to mount a blank disk/how to generate a blank dsk file. Any advice on how to do that?
karmic rover
Here a blank disk
Exemple of command (and you need to generate a dsk file or use a one with datas)
CALL FORMAT
Drive name? (A,B) A
1 - 1 side, double track
2 - 2 sides,double track
? 2
Strike a key when ready
Format complete
Ok
mount dsk on the OSD
fossil parrot
Oh cool. Thanks!
And then I guess my main other question for now from above was around how loading a BIOS is supposed to work. Is there a main recommended one to use? And is loading it with "Load ROM Pack X.msx" the correct option to load it, before loading a ROM?
karmic rover
it depends of the use and the MSX Pack replicate the informaiton of each model
Some MSX doesn't have floppy, some have more Main RAM, some could be use with japanese contents
you can check specification of each models
https://www.msx.org/wiki/Sony_HB-F1XDmk2#Specifications
fossil parrot
Ah, I see. That's a very useful link, thank you.
tribal mountain
Metal Gear will probably be the first game I actually play through on this, thou...
After you get done with that Metal Gear, if you want more of that taste there's a pretty damn good GBC called Ghost Babel
It feels like a mix of the MSX and NES version with a new story and some features borrowed from the MGS games.
It's non-canon afaik but is surprisingly slick.
fossil parrot
Ooh, cool.
I still had trouble getting this saving to work, it turns out. 😢
marble barn
If you are wanting to play MSX1 games then update all would grab you the latest release and BIOS required
karmic rover
Ooh, cool.
I still had trouble getting this saving to work, it turns out. 😢
What is the issue ?
karmic rover
The save proposed by the game is save to tape officially
Game master 2 permits to use another way using disk disk and using game master 2 option
https://www.msx.org/wiki/Konami_Game_Master_2#Saving_Game_State_to_Disk
Have you the menu of save on disk following the steps of the website above ?
You will see the menu on this video
https://youtu.be/LY-cHZSeV58?feature=shared
karmic rover
it is the same with the core
the menu save /load options is game master 2 option not sofarun
maybe it is linked to carnivore but the video is just to show you the game master 2 save menu in game
you don't need to check other stuff
fallen summit
no it doesn't
game master 2 allows you to bring up a load/save menu
RTFM I posted 🙂
things back then were.... different 😄
metal gear in slot 2
game master 2 slot 1
or reverse... it's been a while
game master >2< (not 1!)
or if you had any of these 2 versions 😄
@fossil parrot do you know who I am? 😄
oh really 🙂 well I wish you good luck in your MSX endeavors then
karmic rover
sorry to post this video because he doesn't help to understand ...
fallen summit
hehehe 🙂 look what I got here
I can even get to to work with romload
well the core doesn't have tape out
so no f1-f5 for you
maybe f1-f4
the key here isn't sofarun
that was sofarun 2.3 - we're on v8 now
the key here is to load metal gear 2 into another slot than metal gear
so you can do whatever the f---- you want
also see your DM
the one where I call you a n00b
as the translated disk version is included in NosferatuMSX' VHD that was released
JUST DO NOT BOOT WITH CTRL PRESSED
that's all 🙂 good luck and good night
fallen summit
not even a thank you by @fossil parrot 😄
that's ok - there is only so much I can help with limited faculties
fallen summit
I wonder if he ever checked his DMs
fallen summit
For those who don't know - Game Master 1 and 2 have a build in menu to save/load the state in most konami games.
So it's more than just level and life select it has a whole lot more functionality
slow motion/frama advance
load/save state
take screenshots in game
https://www.msxblue.com/manual/gamemaster2_c.htm here is a nice write up on how to access these functions
as far as sofarun we're now on version 8.0 and things have changes since the video above has been made
also sofarun has no capability to redirect tape saves to a file
however it can load from a file if a file has been specified
but it's either ROM, DISK or CAS load
roms and disks can be combined
Sofarun has a special handeling of concatenated disks