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#ASCII - MSX
cyan horizon
Es gracioso en cierto modo, pero en la ciudad donde vivía ya no queda ni un centro social autogestionado, ni un partido político que no hable como si tuvieran daño cerebral y no hubiesen oido hablar de la lucha de clases más que en algún eco lejano...
gloomy sentinel
se metieron en los movimientos sociales y lo reventaron todo.
cyan horizon
Sí. Además que se veía venir tio. Fue como eso que dicen de un descarrilamiento a cámara lenta, que lo ves pero no puedes hacer nada.
Hay algún intento de partido de reconstrucción marxista-leninista, creo, pero hasta leerse el programa del PCE da miedoascopena aquí ya
cyan horizon
Y la CNT (la CNT, eh, no te digo ná!) en mi ciudad se dedica a defender movidas queer y repartir condones XD
cyan horizon
Sí, sé quien es Roberto Vaquero. No le sigo pero sí que entro en su canal a menudo a ver vídeos suyos. Han sido los únicos que han levantado la voz contra la milonga que hay montada en la izquierda.
cyan horizon
Ojalá se presenten a las generales, la verdad. No sé cómo llegarán o si tendrán músculo para lograrlo. Yo vivo ahora en un pueblo pequeño, pero he pensado a veces en ponerme en contacto con la gente del FO en mi ciudad a ver qué se cuentan y echar una mano.
gloomy sentinel
Sí se presentan, creo
cyan horizon
Lo que pasa es que voy de guindas a brevas...
gloomy sentinel
Yo no iba a votar
cyan horizon
Ya, en esas estaba yo 😄
Iba a ser la primera vez desde que tengo derecho a voto que pensaba pasar
gloomy sentinel
Porque la gente a la que voté en un principio hace años se convirtieron en queers rojipardos. (Compromís)
Y el sistema de partidos es un pufo total.
cyan horizon
jajajaja! Queers rojipardos, pasa cada cosa... En 1930 les hubiera estallado la cabeza con el futuro de la política
Tú vas a principios del siglo XX y les cuentas lo que pasa y alucinan. No se lo cree nadie, te lo digo yo.
gloomy sentinel
Compromís al principio no iba de este rollo... pero ahora son neomonjas y neofrailes de la postmodernidad. Pq esta ideología actúa como una religión.
Nadie del pasado cercano podría haber siquiera imaginado la locura en la que hoy nos vemos envueltos.
cyan horizon
Tio, te juro que hace como cinco años yo pensaba que el término "neomonjas" era genuinamente mio: tias que se pasaban tanto de modernas y reinventadoras de las relaciones humanas, que llegaban al monjismo. Pero he visto que es un invento de estos masivos simultáneos. Same shit, everywhere 😄
gloomy sentinel
Por eso me toca bastante la fibra cuando se nos trata falsamente de genocidas en América por los que sí lo fueron realmente. Pero como la gente a día de hoy ya no sabe de nada, pero de nada de nada... pues.... Esos mensajes calan hondo.
Neomonja creo q es un vocablo surgido expontáneamente en mucha gente.
cyan horizon
A tenor de eso de que la gente no sabe sobre absolutamente nada, creo que por una parte la ignorancia de la historia lo que hace es sacar a la gente de su contexto y así no pueden entender su propia realidad ni pueden imaginar otra porque, al no saber lo que ha sucedido, ven el mundo como algo inmutable.
Y por otra parte, el otro día un compañero del trabajo decía que "eso de la filosofía... eso de tios que se sientan a pensar porque se aburren... no vale para nada". Cuando oigo esas cosas me da pena y miedo, la muerte de la filosofía, la falta de una guía, modelo, aspiración para el mundo... es muy, muy peligrosa. Nos puede pasar DE TODO sin la filosofía. De todo.
Nos van a pegar un toque por todo lo que estamos hablando en español aquí XD
Sorry guys!
MSX power! Yeah! Love MSX! Kisses!
gloomy sentinel
Pues eres joven tú, no?
Si este año ya podías votar por primera vez
Yes. MSX power, but X68k is the real MSX3 🤣
cyan horizon
Si este año ya podías votar por primera vez
No me he explicado bien. Puedo votar desde 1999, pero estas próximas elecciones no pensaba hacerlo, y siempre lo he hecho. Siempre he votado. Ni se me pasaba por la cabeza dejar de hacerlo hasta el ASCO infinito que me produce cierta ministra que yo he puesto ahí con mi voto encima.
Also, yeah, X68k is the MSX3 we deserve! XD
gloomy sentinel
La ministra
Se podrían hacer memes de Virgen María doliente con su cara, pq siempre tiene la misma cara de amargura.
cyan horizon
Si saben lo que hacen, haciendo lo que están haciendo, es que están a sueldo de alguien más que del estado
gloomy sentinel
Lol
copper prawn
came for retro systems. stayed for spanish lessons.
cyan horizon
PUTA MADRE EL LOCO
LA HOSTIA EL LOCO, MACHO!! 😄
copper prawn
macchu pichu
gloomy sentinel
el primo americano
tame aurora
¿Qué tipo de carne hay en esta sopa? Sabe a pelo de animal.
gloomy sentinel
y a qué sabe el pelo de animal ?
remote jay
¿Cuándo se convirtió aquí en un foro español? 😉
grim terrace
Es uno MiSterio
coarse ravine
vine para MSX y encontré español
veo mucho español de España?
la gracia es que conozco el MSX por Argentina... así que si me hablan de MSX en castellano, no me sorprende🤣
karmic rover
MSX computers speak all languages 🙂
fallen summit
0xc9 at yah 🙂
cyan horizon
¿Qué tipo de carne hay en esta sopa? Sabe a pelo de animal.
Where did you get that phrase from? LOL!! 😄
tame aurora
hablo desde mi corazón
cyan horizon
hablo desde mi corazón
So it's a personal experience with animal hair flavored soups? 😄
tame aurora
yep. it ended up being turtle soup. who knows
fallen summit
Is there a Quran rom for msx?
yes - there is a lot of educational software out there for Arabic MSX machines
gloomy sentinel
Is there a Quran rom for msx?
It exists
la mejor comida del mundo existe en España... LO MEJOR !
Y no, no tenemos sopa de pelo de animal. 🤣
fallen summit
ik ga gewoon nederlands lullen - jullie bekijken het maar
grim terrace
Mas que diabos está acontecendo aqui? 🤔
fallen summit
die verdamte hamster ....
gloomy sentinel
os mistérios das linguas do MSX
remote jay
fallen summit
fallen summit
good morning MSX fans
any MSX-ing going on doing the weekend?
any MSX games you played
maybe looked at the new MSXDev2023 entries
gloomy sentinel
I was restoring one of my x68k
and i tested it with akumajo dracula MSX plus megaturbo.
fallen summit
you what now?
gloomy sentinel
I had a problem with a ram module
low barn
any MSX-ing going on doing the weekend?
neah, just the usual demo/compilations exploring from tosec list 😄
fallen summit
oh nice
sudden kite
Does TOSEC have a complete list of MSX software titles?
fallen summit
it contains a lot of crap
untested stuff
dupes
alternative dumps no one cares about
and the rom collection is one big mess
the ROM collection that is updated monthly these days is the most accurate one
and contains curated stuff instead of 70 versions of metal gear
sudden kite
That's amazing work
sudden kite
austere fjord
Wow! Been away from my mister for a few months and come back to find a new MSX2 core nearly ready to go! Need to look into setting it up
low barn
Wow! Been away from my mister for a few months and come back to find a new MSX2 ...
#1056033525922537542 message
#1056033525922537542 message
https://vampier.net/MSX/
austere fjord
https://discord.com/channels/647909397477195803/1056033525922537542/107900842020...
Amazing, thank you! Something to do after work this evening
low barn
sorry, corrected links lol
for some reason, my mouse scrolled and give you bit off ones first 😄
austere fjord
Thank you, the “old” core Vamp helped me set up with a VHD but this looks quite a bit easier and it’s nice that it works more like the original hardware
low barn
it can even run Unix 😛
admittedly just from floppy (no IDE support yet), but OCM one could not via Sofarun and neither from VHD despite my countless times I tried to build a partitioned VHD for it)
ROM games, Disk games.. most of them seem to work fine afaik
austere fjord
All sounds awesome, I got the OCM one setup last year with the intention of finally beating Snatcher and Vampire Killer and just didn’t find time, but I will get around to it, just hunting down a certain release that’s alluded to further up this thread relating to Nosferatu and a zip file
Just located it
austere fjord
Is there a way on the new MSX2 core to save cartridge games? For instance can I set slot 1 to GameMaster2 and load my Rom in slot 2 to save to?
Sorry should have stated it’s for the original Metal Gear
fallen summit
yes to disk
austere fjord
yes to disk
Would that be by just mounting a blank disk as A:?
austere fjord
Thank you @fallen summit
fallen summit
np
as how to use game master 2 - one moment 🙂
not sure what the key is in the core
I think stop = end
ay
forgot even though it's to a manual that I can't post that link
karmic rover
teal marten
Ramadan is coming up soon and there is a Quran rom available for MSX. Does it work on the new core?
Called Al Alamihah
fallen summit
It needs the bios that support the fonts else it might just keep on resetting
craggy iris
Called Al Alamihah
This ROM is not supported at this time.
fallen summit
Space manbow according to "early 1990s konami game cover of a sunfish in space with an super nova"
thanks Dalle-2
fallen summit
karmic rover
sudden kite
another MSX SoC?
karmic rover
It is the MSX0
copper prawn
dafuq is that. portable msx thing
fallen summit
Not my thing - but still cool
gloomy sentinel
I'm sure it's super expensive
fallen summit
gloomy sentinel
Nishi wants to sell his device
sudden kite
He's 30 years late for that lol
bright rock
https://www.msxgoto40.com/
That’s awesome you’re a headliner at the event Mr Nishi
fallen summit
No I am not
cosmic veldt
limber kettle
Haven’t seen them yet. Still working through the earlier entries but I will.
potent abyss
I had this lovely unit
Rensha ~
ALso had a regular MSX2 Panasonic, cant remember the model name.. A1 somthing
Ah here it is
I only had one European game, Vampire Killer (just a relocalization of Akumajo Dracula for Japanese systems)
No Mega SCC carts or anything, just had physical disks and carts for these
tame aurora
the XV is so cool ... i have a XDJ
i'm packing up for a move right now and i'm debating how i want to get my MSXes across the country, haha
potent abyss
antistat bubble wrap to the max
tame aurora
yeah, for sure. i assume uhaul has all this stuff; i have to go there for trailer hitch things anyhow
potent abyss
It's the pink kind, Im pretty sure
tame aurora
yeah, that sounds right
tame aurora
yup!
potent abyss
I used RGBS output to whatever CRT I had at the time. Space Manbow is an absolute masterpiece. Someone on the shmups forums modded an NES controller with a genesis controller pcb and a mode switch, so I could use it on MSX and Genesis. I preferred it over the A1 controller I had.
tame aurora
i really loved the output on crt
potent abyss
Aleste 2 is a banger too
fallen summit
I only had one European game, Vampire Killer (just a relocalization of Akumajo D...
news flash - the Konami games released in JP/EU are the same with the exception of Metal Gear
they just detect a JP/EU computer and switch title screens/language
tame aurora
yup, i have a US (hah!) and a JP MSX and salamander switches languages between them
kinda cool
tame aurora
here's the last pic i took of mine ... in a cramped situation
potent abyss
Oh cool, is that an external floppy drive?
tame aurora
it's a cleaner integration in the msx it actually belongs with, haha
potent abyss
Is that the American MSX1 that came out for music? A friend had one of those
tame aurora
yup
potent abyss
IIRC there arent joystick/gamepad ports on that one. We tested a Japanese Salamander cart and it booted right up though
potent abyss
Oh allright, cool
tame aurora
one big limitation is that it's only got composite video out, but there's homebrew replacement stuff for that
also, of course, it's just a msx1, so there's that
potent abyss
Thats not so bad, I think all the Konami shooters besides Space Manbow and Nemesis 3 will work on MSX1
potent abyss
Very nice.
tame aurora
i know CRT pics are hard but here's a shot of some weird msx2+ doujin mystery/thriller game on mine
not many msx2+ specific things out there, heh
potent abyss
Ah, good to know. For some reason I thought it was MSX2 only.
fallen summit
Just not with the color palette adjustment
The smooth scroll is only msx2
The ‘recent’ hack
potent abyss
Those hacks are pretty cool
fallen summit
Space manbow uses screen4 and screen 5 to display stuff
The power bar is screen 5
The field is screen 4
The pixel art is amazing with the limitations they had to work with
potent abyss
Yeah, Space Manbow is really cool. I saw there was a fan sequel, probably should look into that too
potent abyss
Oh, thank you 🙂
tame aurora
i love the smooth scroll hacks, and the ones with the voices added, haha
what i don't love is how bad i am at them with smooth scroll...
fallen summit
Victor did an awesome job
potent abyss
Is that the smooth scroll hack author? My thanks to him
potent abyss
I am pretty ignorant of the MSX community, sorry. I am a casual who just wanted to run games.
fallen summit
those green things on her neck are to hide the vampire bites
potent abyss
I booted up that hdd image, it's nice. Shame the 1chipmsx is not as accurate as everyone would like
potent abyss
Oh, I hadn't even considered the demoscene for MSX
potent abyss
Cool looking demo, the vector graphics looked nice
cyan horizon
Syntax infinity craps out
Does it work on the Molekula core?
fallen summit
same VDP glitch
fallen summit
HaRa was going to look into it
marble barn
Is there any update on the core? Seems to have been quiet for awhile.
bright rock
I'm a sinner
I never owned an MSX, does that make me a heathen? 🤔
potent abyss
The 1chip based core is great for games, no better way to get started
sudden kite
I never owned an MSX, does that make me a heathen? 🤔
We can fix that
fallen summit
Is there any update on the core? Seems to have been quiet for awhile.
patience 🙂 you don't like suprises? 😄
fallen summit
I don't have MSX anymore
the core and openMSX are great as an alternative
imagine an MSX core that does Turbo-R / Midi / Networking / RS232 / OPL4 / Harddisk support / V9900 / SCC / FM
potent abyss
Well I used to have a couple MSX's and also don't have them anymore, so I'm a sinner too
potent abyss
potent abyss
I respectfully disagree sir, I would rank it just below Space Manbow
fallen summit
They use a lot of really cool tricks - that big airplane in stage 2 is just one big background graphic
And the amount of sprites on screen is amazing
Bullets / multi colored enemies
Fast scroll
And hardly any slowdown most of the time
potent abyss
I'm a big fan of "Tecmo Theater" I enjoyed putting the disk with the cutscenes by itself too.
fallen summit
PAC himself is following me on Twitter for some reason 🙂
Thought that that was pretty cool
gloomy sentinel
love aleste 2 and aleste gaiden
a japanese made a conversion for X68000 and Sega Megadrive
Aleste Gaiden
potent abyss
I'd be interested to see that
gloomy sentinel
potent abyss
Looks pretty interesting! With it being a doujin project and all, I do wonder if it's available online anywhere though. I've run into some PC98 doujin games that are/were only sold in certain PC shops and are not dumped online.
potent abyss
That's a shame.
I had a X68000 XVI Compact for many years, it was a great computer. I never did upgrade it's RAM or get a SCSI drive working with it though.
gloomy sentinel
those floppy drives are the hell
potent abyss
Oof, tell me about it. Those little 3.5 inch drives are horrible to repair.
gloomy sentinel
I had a lot of problems with XVI compact and these floppy drives
the OP-AMP for PCM tends to fail too
Beautiful machine, but extremely weak
and open these computers is like open the hellraiser box
potent abyss
A little high maintenance, you could say. I would have preferred a full size XVI but $120 USD was too good of a price to pass on.
gloomy sentinel
the full size is much better in all the ways
potent abyss
I'm hoping the MiSTer core can be improved more this year.
gloomy sentinel
yes
it's stoped
the Japanese PC's doesn't have a good cores
all of them are broken in some ways
hope they can advance step by step
marble barn
Which cores specifically?
gloomy sentinel
PC-88, PC-98, X68000 and FM-Towns
marble barn
Ah, Puu's cores
sudden kite
Is he still active
ebon knoll
every so often he posts about FM Towns work
if he gets a decent processor out of what he's doing to FM Towns, that could be shoved into PC98 most likely
potent abyss
Difficult to see in this bigger group picture, but I used to have Akumajo Dracula and Vampire Killer on MSX physically
gloomy sentinel
why so many NES castlevania 1 ? what are the differences ?
potent abyss
IBM PC 3.5, IBM PC 5.25, Amiga 500, Commodore 64, NES, FDS, MSX, GBA
different versions or ports, sometimes the same
All are okay, except the Amiga one
Famicom cartridge re-release has a difficulty setting and a Konami splash screen intro
naive dagger
fallen summit
potent abyss
Explain which
fallen summit
potent abyss
¯_(ツ)_/¯
fallen summit
https://tenor.com/view/castlevania_1-castlevania-nes-simon-belmont-super-castlevania-iv-gif-22448344
potent abyss
Akdra SFC is pretty fun.. but X68000 is a lot better IMO
coarse ravine
so I'm compiling a list of top MSX1 games; I came across Youkai Yashiki and I thought damn this game looks good for 1986
turns out it's a modern patch 😅
potent abyss
That is on Famicom Disk System as well
coarse ravine
technically it's still the same system, but I've been splitting modern homebrew and original games. Would this count as a modern homebrew?
I'm finding there's lot of really good MSX1 homebrew games
gloomy sentinel
IBM PC 3.5, IBM PC 5.25, Amiga 500, Commodore 64, NES, FDS, MSX, GBA
Oh wait... the DOS and Amiga releases had that box ? I didn't know.
I've never seen them physically
but amiga's castlevania is ... PAIN !
I thought all these boxes were NES, hehe
potent abyss
They sure look the same yeah, haha
potent abyss
The manuals are shared between all PC releases, they just have a different sticker to indicate the version, or have it printed directly in the same spot.
coarse ravine
that was pretty common at the time. I even remember some game boxes would show only the (better looking) Amiga vetsion in screenshots... sneaky
potent abyss
That's an interesting detail with Castlevania, as the box showed a version that was never released, unlike any of the versions that came out. My assumption was always that they were mocked up
potent abyss
fallen summit
these look european
ZX spectrum style of thinking
chopped off and deformed limbs
potent abyss
Oh my, the ZX. Well, it kind of speaks for itself.
gloomy sentinel
SPECTRUM MAKES MY EYES TO MELT
sudden kite
SPECTRUM MAKES MY EYES TO MELT
In a good way or a bad way?
potent abyss
ZX Spectrum is mind numbingly bad. The only thing worse is early CGA
Tim Follin deserves a grammy for making that piece of crap actually generate music, even if it does sound like "a vacuum cleaner with nails in it"
cyan horizon
SPECTRUM MAKES MY EYES TO MELT
The Spectrum was the computer of the working class! 😄
potent abyss
I'm sorry the buying power of the Pound Sterling was weak in the early 80s and Clive Sinclair is brilliant but that computer fucking sucks
If one more person tells me the ZX Spectrum version of Robocop is better than Data East's arcade game I'll slap the taste out of their mouth
potent abyss
these look european
Europe doesn't deserved to be saddled with being associated with the ZX Spectrum
That shit is on the UK
naive dagger
Toastrack is awesome-looking
fallen summit
That shit is on the UK
you and I will get along just fine 😄
potent abyss
"Sorry you couldnt afford a Commodore 64, please stop telling me this piece of junk is amazing"
fallen summit
you always had the feeling of care and quality with most Japanese games
even if they were crappy most pixel art was top notch
stuff from Spain looked amazing with very detailed pixel art
however the gameplay went from 1 to 100 in like 25% of stage 1
the UK based gaming industry was based on bedroom programmers who liked to copy eachother
the ones who stood above the crowd made good games - but the crappy copies overshadowed their games
great graphics .. but the gameplay
potent abyss
I see what you did there
fallen summit
funny - I had exactly that game in mind
yeah graphics and music were good for the Amiga
potent abyss
I really like the Amiga 500.. but not for platformers and action games and shmups
fallen summit
imagine that it had the same kind of gameplay as Usas for the MSX2
but James Pond!! Seriously... the reskin for the - The Adams Family - was just as bad
potent abyss
I do not understand why gameplay was so hard to code for these type of games for western developers
fallen summit
lack of imagination?
potent abyss
Or motivation, I guess
What are your thoughts on Japanese vs western chiptune composition?
fallen summit
Western Chiptunes use the same tricks and are mostly longer in composition
you hear the what I call 'Gremlin' sound in a lot of SID/PSG based systems
there are great composers out there
the Japanese kept is sweet and simple most of the time while using the perfect sounds
sound effects in Western games weren't as creative
potent abyss
I find both sides interesting, but what is also interesting is the cultural drift between the 2 sides since the internet. 8 Bit music power on Famicom has Japanese chiptunes by industry veterans with lots of European influence on them, something you generally didnt hear back in the day.
fallen summit
Jeroen Tel 😛
potent abyss
Talented man
fallen summit
pained man
fallen summit
that's the 'gremlin' sound indeed
potent abyss
Such cool mixes of styles, I love modern chiptune
potent abyss
Was this made for Zophar's Domain? Used to use that site all the time
Oh hey, bad apple
fallen summit
Zophar is also on Twitch
cyan plinth
Why is it called bad apple? I know it starts with an apple but I’ve never paid enough attention to know if it like … goes bad
fallen summit
As one bad apple spoils the others, so you must show no quarter to sin or sinners.
cyan plinth
As one bad apple spoils the others, so you must show no quarter to sin or sinner...
Whoa I thought it was just anime girls
gloomy sentinel
I love this one
Touhou
he is playing with OPN sound.
it's incredible how much can be done with 3 fm and 3 psg.
naive dagger
I got a PC-98 emulator running at proper speed for those games
Really energizing music
potent abyss
The doujin scene is strong for NEC's computers, it is a wonderful thing
bright rock
The doujin scene is strong for NEC's computers, it is a wonderful thing
Can you clear up the terminology for me? Doujin is basically the Japanese equivalent of “homebrew” right?
potent abyss
More or less in this conversation yes
ebon knoll
"fan made" "stuff"
fallen summit
gloomy sentinel
PC-88 and 98, specially 98 have a big amount of doujins
a lot of PrON
but great games
shoot'em ups
puzzles
there are great official games like Night Slave that it's a SFC Valken like, that have porn, but you can deactivate if you want. The game is awesome.
action game
other game that has porn is steam hearts
but a great shoot'em up
PC-98 has a lot of Compile stuff
spark jacinth
actually really cool and makes me want to fire up the msx core
@fallen summit does it work good on MSX1?
i can't wait to have huge long loading times in between battle transitions
i guess if it worked on the regular MSX core i could just turbo things up
fallen summit
<@249191195136360448> does it work good on MSX1?
Msx2 only - boot with CTRL pressed
spark jacinth
ooo thanks
potent abyss
@spark jacinth How is it treating you?
spark jacinth
i ended up getting distracted, going to try it in a bit, just got home lol
woah tthis is there too i'm seeing
sleek gulch
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/6877/
any benefits to this version over the NES original?
spark jacinth
different sound chip is interesting, but overall no
i just realized i can't really load .dsk directly so gonna hold off on this, it's gonna require more effort than i initially thought lol
playlist to hear one of the main differences
there's the main differences in the game though compared to famicom/nes
spark jacinth
any benefits to this version over the NES original?
I couldn't get the translated version to load, it wouldn't detect that i was holding tthe ctrl key upon reboot, ah well, but here's the japanese one rushed through and then game over for a bit hehe
sleek gulch
Interesting! Not a fan of a lot of the music I heard there but it looks nice
spark jacinth
Yeah it's kinda interesting, except bad load times and bad scrolling.
cyan horizon
The translated version sure works without any problem in the core, I put some hours into it using a beta translation months ago
spark jacinth
On the MSX2 core or the one chip msx core and you loaded it into a vhd?
potent abyss
Sounds like it's not optimized for MSX2+
karmic rover
On the MSX2 core or the one chip msx core and you loaded it into a vhd?
the new core MSX1/2 of Molekula doesn't support vhd for the moment
potent abyss
Molekula seems to be taking a more grounded approach, rather than the 1chip MSX based approach of the regular MSX core
gloomy sentinel
Call Fmpac
spark jacinth
the new core MSX1/2 of Molekula doesn't support vhd for the moment
yes, i was asking how the person loaded it without problems. for me in molekula's core using DSK, I couldn't get the translated version to load, it didn't listen to me holding CTRL down on reboot. it does work with the japanese version though
spark jacinth
Sounds like it's not optimized for MSX2+
correct, the work in progress msx2 core on the different branch is not msx2+ or TurboR compatible yet afaik
but final fantasy is just MSX2
potent abyss
I was talking about the game, yeah
karmic rover
yes, i was asking how the person loaded it without problems. for me in molekula'...
Holding CRTL is not working on some games also maybe some bugs still present
spark jacinth
yeah
potent abyss
I think you can just mount vhd files and add/remove files to them as you please, if you wanted to try it on the 1 chip based core
fallen summit
I think you can just mount vhd files and add/remove files to them as you please,...
yes you can - @spark jacinth download one of my quick boot vhds
fallen summit
potent abyss
SMS MSX ports from Korea
potent abyss
Doesn't appear to be, no. Didnt know about that shmup construction tool for MSX. Only messed around with Dezaemon on Famicom..
gloomy sentinel
x68000 and PC-98 had shmup construction tools too
fm towns too
the fm towns one is ugly as hell
one of the best games is Super Shooting Towns
and it is ugly
potent abyss
The doujin scene for these PCs has always been very interesting
gloomy sentinel
the best doujin for FM-TOWNS is Alltynex
this game is...
master piece
but needs a powerful machine
potent abyss
Is this a beta core? Looks like you can select specific models of Phillips MSX
sudden kite
Wow amazing 😍
fallen summit
So basically the core does EVERY MSX1 or 2
I have been testing a version that is a few weeks old now - and I really love it
potent abyss
I am excite
marble barn
So is the core still being actively worked on but there hasn't been a new test build?
karmic rover
Yep
sudden kite
I need to test it
potent abyss
Err yeah.. me too 😄
karmic rover
On the OSD, I saw a possibility to load a VHD file 😀
potent abyss
So this is a more accurate MSX core, is my understanding?
karmic rover
The big differences are :
- we can use retail bioses
- use MSX1 mode
- load contents from the sdcard so no need to put them on VHD and use sofarun
potent abyss
Nice. So MSX1 mode has colors that look correct to MSX1, rather than MSX2's VDP?
karmic rover
Yes you can see it also on the yt video above
potent abyss
This method of selecting the computer type seems unorthodox
karmic rover
It maybe a new format *.msx containing all informations (bios rom, disk rom, etc...)
potent abyss
Oh, it's BIOS related
karmic rover
Yes I think so
potent abyss
@fallen summit will be pleased all the demoscene files will run
karmic rover
If on the future, MSX2+ and/or MSX TurboR are added the OSD will be the same just the MSX bios file to produce.
craggy iris
So is the core still being actively worked on but there hasn't been a new test b...
I work on the core with varying intensity. I haven't released a test build yet.
craggy iris
On the OSD, I saw a possibility to load a VHD file 😀
Good observation.
marble barn
Great to hear you are still working on it, when MSX2 comes into Main it is going to be a big deal. Thanks for your dedication and hard work on this. 🙂
craggy iris
Nice. So MSX1 mode has colors that look correct to MSX1, rather than MSX2's VDP?
The core has both VDP variants
potent abyss
Excellent.
craggy iris
It maybe a new format *.msx containing all informations (bios rom, disk rom, etc...
Yes, it is.
craggy iris
If on the future, MSX2+ and/or MSX TurboR are added the OSD will be the same jus...
That's how I plan to handle it.
karmic rover
Thank you for your time on this project !
naive dagger
fallen summit
guys you are in for a real cool core here
I couldn't really disclose much as it was not for me
but yes VHD support is something that will be nice to have
in effect this is what I wished for at the start of a famous GIThub discussion 😛
the options are there but do not have to be used
just as with a real MSX
potent abyss
Demoscene for Vamp
fallen summit
I used to be part of it - I stopped around 2000 with that stuff
potent abyss
I cant even get it to recognize my online handle, this thing has some picky syntax
I mean..
Im flattered but this is BS
sudden kite
Is there an English translation for snatcher on MSX?
potent abyss
Yes
The original PC versions fo Snatcher don't have Act III, but have their own charming aesthetic to them
SD Snatcher is also translated
potent abyss
Yes
fallen summit
The SD-Snatcher Translation come in 2 flavors - Oasis and Project Melancholia
Project Melachcholia has the technical implementation by Max Iwamoto (from MSXTranslations.com)
I'm part of MSXTranslations too
I run their website and do some proof-reading
potent abyss
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasnt there one for Snatcher or SD Snatcher that was behind a paywall?
fallen summit
not anymore
sudden kite
I run their website and do some proof-reading
Bruh why are you so cool
sudden kite
MSX cool
sudden kite
why every single American YouTuber shits on MSX?
"eh it wasn't that great"
"not a big deal as I expected"
"this crap sux"
in my opinion, arguably MSX beats all the crappy American 8-bit home computers in most aspects
potent abyss
Like what? PC Jr/Tandy? XT/cga with a basic system speaker? Not a high bar to clear.
sudden kite
Like what? PC Jr/Tandy? XT/cga with a basic system speaker? Not a high bar to cl...
all of these aren't 8-bit platforms
I meant things like the TRS, Commodore, etc etc
TI
which arguably had 16-bit CPU but it wasn't exactly a 16-bit system
potent abyss
Hm, well I think the C64 is a strong machine overall. Good video for 82, great APU. Do these YouTubers seem like they are the type to just compare everything to nes?
sudden kite
Hm, well I think the C64 is a strong machine overall. Good video for 82, great A...
I think so
coarse ravine
"this crap sux"
it's easy to say stuff sucks while completely ignoring the limitations of the time, and the much deeper market segmentation from not having internet
MSX games were realy fun to play if all you knew was Apple II and Spectrum
sudden kite
MSX games were realy fun to play if all you knew was Apple II and Spectrum
Oh yeah I forgot how graphics and sound were crappy on apple ii
In comparison with MSX, of course
coarse ravine
they were better in some ways. 16 color Sierra adventures...
but no hardware sprites
fallen summit
US based consumer did not really have Japanese games until the NES came along.
(Japanese games = programmed and created in Japan)
potent abyss
More or less, less educated US classic gamers will often make strange comparisons
fallen summit
OMG LOOK AT THIS CHOPPY SCROLL!!
omg look at the zx-spectrum port to the MSX!! it's so bad!!
potent abyss
I am a fancy educated type so I do not fall into these plebian traps 🧐
sudden kite
omg look at the zx-spectrum port to the MSX!! it's so bad!!
Exactly this lol
karmic rover
gloomy sentinel
PACO
potent abyss
Alas
sudden kite
To the surprise of no one
potent abyss
Hey @fallen summit I have something you maybe haven't heard, SCC wise..
Official Konami made SCC re-arrangement of Divine Bloodlines from Dracula X: Chi no Rondo
fallen summit
I have heard this before somewhere 🙂 this sounds really nice
potent abyss
I stumbled over it, in the middle of a random AST album and was like "wtf? thats SCC!"
fallen summit
It sounds like an approximation of SCC and PSG
Or it is just heavily processes
Whatever it is it’s done well
potent abyss
Yeah I dont know, we'll never get the actual file to play on our systems so its just guesswork
low barn
my (not so) long search for an input tester for MSX is over 😄 https://www.msx.org/forum/msx-talk/general-discussion/input-device-tester-for-msx-dos
low barn
wasn't available here 😄 so we only went drunk mostly
fallen summit
Teacher was teaching the basics - and told me to put a pixel on screen
Instead of that I put a rotating cube on screen
Was even frame buffered lol
Well it started with a pixel since it was zoomed out - then i pushed a key and the cube zoomed in
Teacher was like - oh show off
Then we had to build a parallel port device for GPIO ports
Had 8 leds
So I started programming running lights and PWM stuff
The teacher was like - you’re just here to have fun right? 😉
Those where fun days
low barn
nice lol
fallen summit
I got the 3D calculations from a friend
Made a star field as well
Never filled the polygons though
low barn
i remember hating Pascal back then, preferred x86 asm and C/C++ lol
fallen summit
I didn’t do assembly until I made pwnd2
Waiting for doc so I might drop when he comes in
bright rock
Haven’t done pascal in a while
Damn you should at least call
fallen summit
?
potent abyss
Poor pedro
potent abyss
bright rock
Uploaded just in case it gets deleted
No idea what game that’s from but the artwork is badass
potent abyss
Nemesis 3
fallen summit
Gopher No Yabou
cyan plinth
I need some Konami posters
bright rock
Damn what a cool box art!
potent abyss
cyan plinth
potent abyss
I need some Konami posters
Can do
cyan plinth
Konami had excellent taste in ripoffs
fallen summit
you know who that is with his 3 eyes in his head right?
potent abyss
If theft was the sincerest form of flattery, Frank Frazetta is a very flattered man
fallen summit
cyan plinth
Dr venom or something?
potent abyss
bright rock
There’s a story? lol
potent abyss
potent abyss
fallen summit
@bright rock any questions? 😄
potent abyss
fallen summit
@bright rock do you want to know who the Bacterion are?
😄
I was born out of the greediness of mankind. While men exist, so will I!
bright rock
Wait what the hell, there’s a freaking anime for Gradius!?
potent abyss
Although, it should be stated the MSX story and the mainline series story are not really intertwined all that much
Yass Robby there is
bright rock
Holy shit that’s so cool
potent abyss
PM me for the hookup
fallen summit
bright rock
PM me for the hookup
NO, you made me scared yesterday
potent abyss
Theres no porn, lol
bright rock
lolol
potent abyss
Ninja Ryukenden, Wizardry, Final Fantasy, Ys and others also got anime
bright rock
I only knew about FF
bright rock
Goddamn I love this Discord. So many cool people with amazing knowledge.
fallen summit
The MSX is very welcoming for those who have patience
or who download my packs
😛
potent abyss
Im the forever n00b
fallen summit
poke-1,170
defusr=&h44:u=usr(0)
defusr=&h40:u=usr(0)
vdp(10)=0
vpoke 776,&b00011000
😄
bright rock
What’s your favorite MSX? Mine is the Sharp 68000.
bright rock
I’m also a fan of the Bandai Pippin MSX
potent abyss
I think Robby likes Nemesis '90 Kai
bright rock
lol
potent abyss
potent abyss
rapid tide
Dr Venom is also in the NES Gyruss IIRC
fallen summit
- @potent abyss mentioned this on an MSX stream earlier with basic kun
potent abyss
Gaming Alexandria is giving us quite a lot of goodies
potent abyss
bright rock
I love Terminator 2
potent abyss
I love Terminator 2
bright rock
T-1000, Sarah Conner, John Conner, and Kyle Reese
potent abyss
T-1000, Sarah Conner, John Conner, and Kyle Reese
sudden kite
Why does it say see you around and not hasta la Vista
potent abyss
Why does it say see you around and not hasta la Vista
Legally distinct engrish
sudden kite
potent abyss
That is some fat, redundant pondering.
sudden kite
Ikr
brazen zinc
pondering all three chins at once
fallen summit
sudden kite
potent abyss
Welcome to Murrica.
We have music based MSX1s, in small quantities.
coarse ravine
found the rarest and heaviest MSX model on Japanese auctions
fallen summit
here you can check your MSX collection if you have any unknown roms
50 files at a time max
marble barn
Is Microsoft still developing BASIC? I thought it was mothballed decades ago
fallen summit
apparently it's still being developed
lol
well we can just as well wrap up every open source project
it will stop development
sudden kite
Kazuhiko is a dinosaur stuck in the 1980s mentality, he won't comprehend open source software 😬
coarse ravine
thinking of getting a real msx2; can anybody suggest a model that is easy to mod with a SD card or usb solution?
is it just a matter of removing the floppy drive and putting a gotek in there?
sudden kite
thinking of getting a real msx2; can anybody suggest a model that is easy to mod...
any should do, provided that you get a Carnivore2 with it
potent abyss
An MSX2+ will do you well
sudden kite
why not go the extra mile and get an MSX Turbo R 😛
potent abyss
Expensive, small exclusive library
sudden kite
yeah.. only slightly more exclusive than MSX2+
potent abyss
I mean if money is no object, sure why not
ebon knoll
money is usually made of many little objects
naive dagger
A someone who owned two Turbo Rs, I would stick with a Sony or Panasonic MSX2+
Unless you want to drop some real dough on a Turbo R and MFR SCC+ cart
IIRC the Turbo R CPU speeds up performance of the cart's UI
Plus you can play the few Turbo R exclusive games
And Turbo R supports MIDI by default, i.e. a real MT-32 with Illusion City
This was a good mail day
Kind of wish I had kept this one
It almost looked unused
sudden kite
Yeah so fresh;
bright rock
compact yarrow
sudden kite
coarse ravine
why not go the extra mile and get an MSX Turbo R 😛
those are huge no? looks like the MSX2+ would be easier to fit on a desk
I like the red accent of this one
still not sure about the size though
sudden kite
those are huge no? looks like the MSX2+ would be easier to fit on a desk
I think both have similar sizes
rapid tide
found the rarest and heaviest MSX model on Japanese auctions
Does that say "combine OK"? 😉
coarse ravine
it says "operates OK" ... 64KB RAM, 128KB VRAM... and 128 horsepower 😆
it takes carts.... just put them in the glovebox
potent abyss
it takes carts.... just put them in the glovebox
fallen summit
MSX0 is something he’s working on
sudden kite
to be cancelled soon after?
karmic rover
some users have MSX0 in japan. they were available in Akihabara
fallen summit
so it's a arm running an emulator
and it has a basic extension made by the creator of gr8net I heared
which needs to be called in basic with a call command
despite Nishi telling me that basic is still actively developed
(it's not and has not been for 35 years)
sudden kite
(it's not and has not been for 35 years)
Which basic are you talking about
sudden kite
so it's a arm running an emulator
Super lame
fallen summit
msx basic
sudden kite
karmic rover
at this time Japan have a lot of cash
potent abyss
OK so if I am understanding this correctly
MSX0 is just an arm computer/console like a mini basically
fallen summit
potent abyss
🤨
naive dagger
That looks expensive
potent abyss
Looks pointless
gloomy sentinel
Nishi san
spark jacinth
despite Nishi telling me that basic is still actively developed
maybe he's conflating BASIC and VB? lol
but yeah, once C was mature, BASIC was done for lol
fallen summit
dunno
karmic rover
Is it money issue for msx3 ?
sudden kite
Maybe someone needs to tell Nishi about Kickstarter
Where he can make money without having to deliver the final product
potent abyss
What is MSX3 supposed to be? Is it some new platform like the 8bitguy's computer?
naive dagger
Turbo R was already kind of the MSX3
fallen summit
@craggy iris how are things going? I know you're busy
deft nymph
I see that Time Gal was released on MSX (I've seen VHD tapes for Time Gal going for ~1500$) , will it be ever playable on mister ? seems like the game is impossible to ""find"" anyway
potent abyss
Neat. I've always wanted an MSX Laserdisc system for Badlands myself.
fallen summit
not dumped yet
deft nymph
I'd be willing to participate financially in getting it dumped
naive dagger
There was talk of a Daphne core
craggy iris
<@706902502381060217> how are things going? I know you're busy
I've made some progress with MegaFlashROM SCC+ SD, but now I'm stuck. I'm not satisfied with the outcome and I'm trying to optimize it.
craggy iris
I wouldn't call it a problem, rather the complexity of the initial design that makes further progress difficult. So now I'm spending time on optimization before moving forward and releasing the next version.
fallen summit
Oh got it
I have had the luck to put myself into those scenarios as well - but it shows that you learned how to do it better in the end
Or at least I hope when that happens 😉
cyan horizon
I am watching the repository and this channel on a daily basis, Molekula. The core so far is simply incredible.
fallen summit
@cyan horizon but you didn't like all these bells and whistles 😄
cyan horizon
<@528221081031409674> but you didn't like all these bells and whistles 😄
NOnono, what I didn't like is getting another 1ChipMSX core...
karmic rover
Thank you Molekula to keep going on this core !
spark jacinth
Yeah, it's not exactly a 1chipmsx core, that was a misunderstanding:p
bright rock
What’s the value in having a 1ChipMSX versus this new one?
bright rock
Sofarun is really cool though, it even has a MisterKun
fallen summit
Sofarun is really cool though, it even has a MisterKun
oh the misterkun menu was something I created
HeWhoIsRed even helped me adjust MiSTer Kun to look better on the MSX
bright rock
It’s great!
naive dagger
The main reason I was psyched for Amiga core was the demo scene
potent abyss
Im still looking for a way to remove demoscene stuff out of the Amiga Vision image
Enable it in Super Attract Mode and your likelihood for seeing poorly digitized porn goes up dramatically
fallen summit
@potent abyss amiga stag party
potent abyss
<@1082088845291569283> amiga stag party
Have you ever tried to edit an Amiga hard disk image
Its nots as easy as youd think
fallen summit
it was more a comment on digitized pr0n
potent abyss
Ahh
potent abyss
@fallen summit , got a question. Do the MSX Laserdisc games render in 480i like arcade, or 240p like on MegaLD?
karmic rover
for this game we needs a lot of addons on real hardware too 🙂
potent abyss
I'll assume it's out of reach for the MiSTer community for now then XD
karmic rover
yeah !
fallen summit
OpenMsx runs it fine with the right settings
potent abyss
An emulator? Sir I run a MiSTer FPGA. 🧐
fallen summit
Yah yeah
potent abyss
But yeah Ill probably try it out in OpenMSX
marble barn
Does anyone have any experience converting a .wav MSX file to .cas? Is there a tool that does this?
bright rock
IS 3-1 still the latest released of the MSX core?
potent abyss
potent abyss
coarse ravine
the OG bomberman was a farmer 😅
karmic rover
potent abyss
Timville adapter has arrived.. playing SCC Vampire Killer right now with NES pad 🙂
marble barn
What is that? A famiclone?
fallen summit
Yup
potent abyss
Hehe, I love the weird clones
sudden kite
Well that one isn't weird, just plain lazy and shitty
naive dagger
wait is there a keyboard under there?
sudden kite
There's only one way to find out
formal vale
Yamato-San wondered about the name change in this issue here https://github.com/ThreepwoodLeBrush/Names_MiSTer/issues/13 How does the switching to MSX2 work with the current version of the core that is distributed by the MiSTer Updater? Maybe you or one of the other MSX experts here can answer Yamato-San in the issue report?
teal marten
Yamato-San wondered about the name change in this issue here https://github.com/...
I don't think that has been officially released yet and is wip
craggy iris
Yamato-San wondered about the name change in this issue here https://github.com/...
I replied to the thread. Hopefully I explained it correctly.
formal vale
Thank you @teal marten and @craggy iris. Molekula, from how I understand your approach, simply labeling the core MSX1/MSX2 does not do it justice. With the current public core, naming it "MSX2" creates a false expectation, too.
If you agree, I would rename it to simply MSX. Your approach is to load machine specific configurations that happen to be MSX-1 or MSX-2 compatible, but it is not possible to select either standard in the core. Such a selector would not even fit your approach.
But if you or anybody else in here has suggestions, we can take a bit of time getting the name right this time around.
craggy iris
Yes, one could take it that way. For now, MSX1 is really MSX1. Once I get the project to a level where it is viable, the time is right to rename the project. To give you an idea, here is a picture of what the configuration looks like when uploaded as a ROM package.
fallen summit
potent abyss
Homebrew?
potent abyss
Never played it, any good?
fallen summit
not released yet - or released today
as with a lot of spanish titles - no free stuff
sudden kite
Hmm 🤔
potent abyss
Let the ROM begging commence
sudden kite
formal vale
Yes, one could take it that way. For now, MSX1 is really MSX1. Once I get the pr...
I will remove the mention of MSX2 for now then 🙂
grim terrace
Let the ROM begging commence
ROMZ PLZ
potent abyss
Oh yeah let me just break out my EEPROM dumper
limber kettle
@fallen summit are you aware of a translated madou monogatari hack that makes the game English ? I’ve seen one person on YouTube play a part of the game and it has English text but I’ve seen no romhack online for it and the person playing had no link or description about it.
fallen summit
@limber kettle there is a user called Django who puts out low effort untested translations
this might be one of these
limber kettle
Yeah you’re right I see it now
fallen summit
here is a summary of his translation
10% translated sometimes - or he calls it 100% and sometimes you get dialogue that is still in Japanese
Text that doesn't stop and it just keeps on dumping the memory on screen and it freezes the game
game breaking bugs introduced somewhere along the line aren't resolved
or just randomly picked stuff that doesn't make any sense at all
potent abyss
Yikes
limber kettle
🫤 that sucks. Ah well. I guess at the very least I could use my phone to translate
fallen summit
sometimes a translation is better than no translation
but in most cases of Django - it's better to have none
I am sure he means well - and I respect him for it
but https://msxtranslations.com - we put a lot of time/effort and testing into our translations
potent abyss
but https://msxtranslations.com - we put a lot of time/effort and testing into o...
Just an FYI, not a knock
ebon knoll
looks like https://msxtranslations.com/ is proper for the cert
potent abyss
That being said..
ebon knoll
but luckily these days LE can issue wild card certs so that can be easily fixed up on the next renewal
fallen summit
@potent abyss I run that server 🙂 here it shows up fine with chrome
potent abyss
Im not worried about the site, just letting you know
I wonder if anyone runs a general site for all the translations that arent on RHDN
potent abyss
Oh well, Ill vouch for it if anyone asks
fallen summit
adjusted the link
potent abyss
Nice that the MSX Last Armageddon will have a translation
fallen summit
Max and Tsunami are working on new stuff
but they don't have a lot of Time
I mean I posted the announcement of Fray 12 years ago
potent abyss
Shame for people who cant speak J
Well, read I guess
Im fond of that game, it really turns a lot of RPG tropes on their heads
potent abyss
fallen summit
Some people rather drink bud light over a Belgian Lambik - some people rather live in poverty than being rich ….
Some people are just mental
You can’t prevent this
bright rock
Except Bud Light is better than Belgian beer?
fallen summit
Bud light is Belgian - but I was talking about a Lambik
InBev is the corporate conglomerate behind it all
potent abyss
@bright rock fully knows about Amiga CV1 now
Nate is on this server, he must have it muted as he is not defending his opinion 🤔
bright rock
Bud light is Belgian - but I was talking about a Lambik
I can’t even troll properly wtf
I love Amiga CV1
sudden kite
Let me bring my pitch and fork
potent abyss
I love Amiga CV1
I love it like one loves a really bad movie
It's kusoge
bright rock
oh yeah absolutely!
potent abyss
Have you played Trio the Punch @bright rock?
bright rock
Have you played Trio the Punch <@314946127487172609>?
No, is that in the Saturn core?
potent abyss
Oh no, it has no core.. but it is top tier kusoge
potent abyss
No, is that in the Saturn core?
bright rock
Looks fun