🍍│farming-strat-help

[west ferry]

im poor, can anyone help?

[slender anchor]

No

[west ferry]

damn, forever broke it is

[boreal geode]

gamble till u rich

you're welcome

[slender anchor]

A good farm that costs less than 60 Chaos per map and can return 2/3 div for you, Use the scarab that removes the suffix and prefix from the map.

T17 rush boss inv
https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BQAaAACJAIfUXz54gGMP0aHru0z1svrvut6iiy6GtCySeQAIeoQq_sXxVG2IuP_AKqfiIWAiKTD6nJwo55SDjEG1ZhCAQ3XJ_X1ajeprMZPyT_eovCq72Vu92h195Pe3XYvhfZHNNSd13GkOSt7-qgqINNoUnzvfYxChTdfXKyTRHY-e2Kyke2Bc7itx0MaWjL3HKY2OOXDjN-PEpgCRs8fnrtMO4RB9tfux61_EhV7fThvpKKLQBPzLF8-JNTAkMsddxB_m6K7vE31-QA75YhYTXTCGGZSRiarDLEgYi8GvC3Hl7NVia2Xj1HELWx6P5QMwM8ajRdib1WnCdomjqUPk_LVjZh_EGNRs5DNM8ukk6We51CPf0CgUAB-LCAAAAAAAAAMDAAAAAAAAAAAA

[rich condor]

is that the funny terror strat?

[amber inlet]

Go breach farming brian 😛

[round adder]

LOL

[drifting perch]

Essences low budget, nice profit

[amber inlet]

Also very true

[west ferry]

ive been doing nightmare maps, 8 mod, 5 scarabs, max quant and map effect, ziggurat, best average price of frags + chance of minion pact. works out to around 8 div every 10 maps.

[slender anchor]

I'm farming breach, but I'm thinking of going back to that shard farm, but with another farm alongside it at T17.

[rancid delta]

beg your friends for money, mirrors per hour strat if theyre all rich and done with league

[west ferry]

now this....this is a solid plan

the strat then is friendship farming

[plush blade]

Boss Rush > Breach > Ambush

[nimble cargo]

can someone help me finish act 2

[gilded kiln]

gamble adorned and just hit

[spare hazel]

craft flask

[patent echo]

have u tried chaos recipe?

[fallen skiff]

hey guys what's a great farm rn? I'm kinda fed up on nighmare boss rushing

[dark skiff]

Nihgtmare profitable?

[boreal geode]

If you really really rush the maps, it is, there are some videos out there about profits

Tho they may be outdated with the prices

So may be more or less than it used to be

[hexed viper]

How fast is the rush?

[violet hull]

1min max

[hexed viper]

My kboc do in 2min

[boreal geode]

Depends on which map

Zigg is way longer than fortress or abomination for example

[hexed viper]

but is rush for chisels or nightmare?

[boreal geode]

For uber frags

[hexed viper]

oh ok

[forest ice]

Is this server dead?

[boreal geode]

Nope, dont u see any channels or something like that?

[junior tendon]

i dont see any channels why

where WTS and WTB

[boreal geode]

check this, you may have to enable them

id:browse

[winged wedge]

anyone have any simple strat that makes 20d/hr? t17 boss rush isn't giving much anymore

on exsang/reap mines, 15m dps on exsang 30 on reap

need 100 more d to get started on my aspirational build

[wintry flare]

i would recommend heist can you do heist blueprints ?

[winged wedge]

heist is super high variance no?

i'm down but only have like 10d to invest atm

[wintry flare]

blueprints with currency enchant is so good farm

[winged wedge]

consistent div drops?

[wintry flare]

did u try ritual stack deck?

[wintry flare]

tempering and tailoring orb common

[winged wedge]

i tried budget stacked deck earlier league, was fine

[winged wedge]

oo sounds fun, how common would you say?

[wintry flare]

worth more than 1 div

but there is something u need to snip 4 wing as price of 3 wing

which is around 400c

4 wing actual price is +600c

but poe awakened not showing that unless revealed

[winged wedge]

is there a guide on this strat?

[wintry flare]

just push to curio box and get the currency and get out

fast mean more profit per hour

[winged wedge]

tempering/tailoring are the curios right?

i see ok

how often do you find them?

[wintry flare]

it dpened but rarley i don't find 1 in 4 wings bp

have u tried low invest breach too ?

is good too

[winged wedge]

i tried it, felt really really bad for some reason

might not have been rolling the maps correctly

i made maybe 3d per 20 maps

[wintry flare]

🤔 lol

[winged wedge]

yeah user error

[wintry flare]

3d only what! ... sometimes from 1 map i get 3d

[winged wedge]

i've seen the showcase vids lol

maybe I should give it another shot

[wintry flare]

16.5 map with at least 90% currency

1 deli

[winged wedge]

my build can run so little 16.5 mods that rolling to 90% currency is super difficult lol

[wintry flare]

u may use chisel

[winged wedge]

true

chisel split roll?

[wintry flare]

yea

[winged wedge]

alright

i'll look at these. thanks!

[raw hemlock]

Just run strongbox

[winged wedge]

strongbox also super high variance?

and high invest

[raw hemlock]

Im running with one each ambush scarabs

[winged wedge]

containment is rough

i got like 10d to my name

[raw hemlock]

You can run with 3 ambush and one potency

[winged wedge]

just fish for tinks?

or scarab farm

[raw hemlock]

Just open arcanists and divines box and in mirage operatives

[winged wedge]

alright, will look. i have had shit luck with ambush this league so far lol

[raw hemlock]

Im farming strongboxes

[winged wedge]

whenever i ask in chat or the main sub i always get someone saying "you can make 20div/hr doing just about anything" and i've yet to find that to be the case for any strat i've tried lol

except flipping

for some reason as soon as i get out of atlas completion i have the mierdas touch

[raw hemlock]

Im doing 25div/hr

[wintry flare]

well in my opinion every farm strategy doing +20 div/hr but there are many factors like build, speed, luck and so on

[winged wedge]

yeah and very few build guides go over what strats they're good for (aside from boss rushing specific builds or kboc) and vice versa for strat guides. how am i supposed to know my build can't do maven invitations or harvest dawg it's my third league lol

[obsidian eagle]

20-25div/hr for POE2 early leauge?

[wintry flare]

can u do uber bosses like sirus ?

cuz miners do ubers

[winged wedge]

is 30m dps enough?

i do a bunch of uber atziris when i get burnt out of everything else

got that down to 2.5mins/run

[wintry flare]

uber boss mean les 70% dmg

[winged wedge]

for sirus i mean

[wintry flare]

can u do normal sirus

[winged wedge]

yeah def

[wintry flare]

sirus or uber sirus was my 1st farm this league

u farm awakner and orb of dominance

[winged wedge]

ah ok

aren't the fragments crazy?

[wintry flare]

sirus the cheapest

2c each i think

i start the league with miner wocot

[winged wedge]

currently 12-15c each for non-uber

[wintry flare]

the normal sirus ?

wow

[winged wedge]

yeah, uber is 3c each though

[wintry flare]

did u fight sirus before cuz he the most annoying boss ?

[winged wedge]

i farmed him a lot last league on pbod

i've gotten him kinda down

i'll try running some uber sirus

[wintry flare]

yea try 1 uber sirus

if not i've some fragments of normal sirus i can give it to u i don't need them

[sullen hedge]

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[winged wedge]

i can invest for normal sirus. 60c ain't much

thanks for the offer though!

!giverep @wintry flare

i'll pick it back up tomorrow

thanks dawg

[torn rampart]

I'll buy an ascendancy lycia bloodline ign: pakachattree

[cobalt pelican]

need remembered invitation with 4+ mods, pay 10 div
@FoudreAuCul
or dm discord

[low fox]

Anyone in Mirage softcore want to join my Doryani's Machinarium and split the cost?

[spiral marten]

you can ask in https://discord.com/channels/645607528297922560/1491917557727494356

[echo plover]

me

[low fox]

that channel popped out of nowhere 😄

[spiral marten]

at the very top of the list in channels and roles you need to click what you want to see

[placid cloak]

I'll buy an ascendancy Lycia
@ДеЛаЕм_ГРЯЗЬ

[narrow cosmos]

Guys,whats more profit per hour/map,full Ambush mirage Containment Maps,or Ambush Maps with non Mirage,Non Containment Haunted Mansions?

[west escarp]

buying gold rotas and flipping baryas with chaos divine arbitrage

[hexed viper]

280% mf in juiced maps i can get a mirror in how much time avg?

[placid cloak]

I'll buy an ascendancy Lycia
@ДеЛаЕм_ГРЯЗЬ

[jovial basin]

Containment full map mirages idkxabout haunted mansion. I know city square works wonders

[craggy valve]

whats a good XP strat this league? just dinged 99 for the first time wondering if im missing out from 1x marshall, 2x instability and 2x monstrous lineage

[alpine heron]

Does strongbox strat need a scry?

[jovial basin]

depends where youre doing it. if city square then having a scry boosts div per h but its not mandatory

its always more divperhour

[solemn kelp]

what's up bros

[dense tinsel]

1

[fluid wolf]

guys, how farm drop many maps with empowered mirage

[thick kite]

Anyone quitting the league want to lend me some fear to get my 40/40 ?🤭

[dark peak]

damn it really wasnt an april fools joke

hope this discord revives for the new league

[proper folio]

poe how to farm empowered mirage maps

[boreal geode]

TFT Discord is 100% working for a while now

if u don't see any channels check id:browse

[solid anvil]

whats strat good for goold farm ? and what scarab

[native umbra]

is this channel dead

[weak prairie]

what happened to the server? will it be back for the new league?

[wary token]

Someone have Primal Crushclaw spectre ???

[lunar dove]

Hey guys ! Any strat for il 84 cluster arroud here ?

[dark skiff]

RMT?

[versed shard]

mods!!

[boreal geode]

!bonk 1030563550046990439

[boreal geode]

Feel free to mention any of us in thoes situations

[versed shard]

good I was about to ask whom can I tag

[woeful creek]

Heyy guys
for a RF what is the best farming strat?

[boreal geode]

Ultimatum i would say if u tanky af

[woeful creek]

damn i dont like it that much
i want to do breach
does it work?

[boreal geode]

Prob not so well, after all breach needs a huge clear speed to clear all the bordera

I mean, ofc you can do breach, but its just not the best suited build for it

[narrow cosmos]

Any Delve Pros that can tell me wich node i have to travel to to get the boss?

[boreal geode]

@rancid delta and @balmy sparrow are the only delve enjoyers i know

[rancid delta]

most likely its sort of an L shaped path, go to the fossil node to the SE of your crawler and look for fracrured walls on ur way

i havent looked into how those generate though, thats just experience talking

if its not there then probably along the path between the city nodes to the SW?

[narrow cosmos]

Alright,ill check.Thanks guys.

[balmy sparrow]

imo the fossil node will have the connection

[narrow cosmos]

it didnt have the connection

[versed shard]

Fossil node shouldn't have the connection since its connected to at least 3 other nodes

iirc the node that has at most 2 other nodes connected should lead to the boss

[rancid delta]

that sounds right

never rly paid attention to how they generate cause i just went for depth :p

[signal inlet]

can someone send me gold rota atlas please?

[queen schooner]

Could someone help me clean up a couple of maps using Expedition?

[fluid wolf]

guys what the best farm now

[finite lodge]

harvest is a good farm rigth now, also breach or the div card strat

[fluid wolf]

with crop rotation or no

have guide?

[finite lodge]

no crop rotation

there are some nice videos on youtube, let me see if i can find u a decent one

u can check anime princess, path of evening or ronarray, decent videos with explanations and different budgets

[boreal geode]

Thoes videos he said are really good, only difference i make is that i use cornucopia for the las 2-3 maps of the astrolabe depending the mods it rolled

Max i've got was 5 tier 4 seeds in one plot, tho they were pink

[finite lodge]

damm all pink, such a bad luck

[boreal geode]

Broke my heart def hahahahaha

[jolly cipher]

Whats the div card strat? Farming doedres packs with ritual?

[finite lodge]

There are a few different ones, farming for stacked decks only, farming for damnation card or farming for div cards in general (after scry some nice ones)

[jolly cipher]

Oh damn how do you farm damnation specifically?

Ive seen some videos where ppl used the div card scarab with stronboxes to dupe the loot but it was barely feasable

[willow kindle]

Any regex that shows all the good/worthwhile nodes in delve?

[static lake]

you can scry crimson township

[opal light]

Does anyone know if Titanic Scarab affect bosses spawned from Awakened Scarab?

[finite lodge]

scry crimson temple for damnation. Another good map to scry is defiled cathedral (mageblood and mirror shard cards) or beach (2 divines card)

[jolly cipher]

And then use the div card strongbox with cards in the boss?

Or just play another strat and hope to luck out?

[jolly cipher]

Wait nvm the strongbox doesnt look at map cards

[finite lodge]

redviles got a doc with some div cards famr and also fubgun got a video about farming damnation card

[finite lodge]

redviles doc https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSyu1v9Q_YJn6Jg0fpsD0iH1oqu2RjxHT5GEZK4hC_ERnvCLO4eAIAz3Eq6Cai63AuEokPwwxpK3QLj/pubhtml

fubgun video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00I_fZapvf0

[obsidian tiger]

^guys i play atm boxes but cant see it anymore and for breach is my pc to bad any farming strats ideas?

[finite lodge]

harvest

[jolly cipher]

Okkk tyy

[finite lodge]

Gonna copy my boy jix here XD

[jolly cipher]

I see

!giverep @finite lodge

[boreal geode]

[narrow sundial]

sign to not play and lock in irl if its a pc diff thing

[finite lodge]

dont get mad, u know ure the one 🥰

[misty hinge]

Any pro's here who could give a few pointers what to farm at this stage of mirage league?
I usually get a few builds to a mir or so gearworth, and never much of an endgame farmer, but this league i just got the vibe, and wanna make a 5-10ish mir build.
Mostly run harvest/blightravaged/essence this league but they kinda falling off and mir prices are kinda steep atm... any suggestions?

Blasting yellow lifeforce without corni atm seems the best money maker, but... are there anything better this late into the league

[finite lodge]

Harvest is still good rigth now isnt it?

mmm only i can think is breach or astrolab farm maybe?

[misty hinge]

rushing yellow, skiping rest is like 15-25 div/h

[autumn dagger]

i was getting like 40d/hr doing harvest, you using packsize mods on t16 maps? and blocking everything so mirage always spawns on harvest?

[misty hinge]

ive never done this new unstable breach farming, and kinda dont even get where the €€€ comes from, raw drops? tree seems kinda meh since rares dont sell

[misty hinge]

mirage always harvest 99% of the time, and 100+% quant maps

[autumn dagger]

nightmare boss rushing is probably around 50d/hr depending on how fast you run
breach is giga raw divines/other currency yeah

[autumn dagger]

quant matters less than having the t16.5 20% packsize mods, those can easily get you to 100% total packsize for double monster spawns

[finite lodge]

maybe nigthmare rush also or farming those new vaal orb?

[misty hinge]

I was thinking aboout the new vaals, since they are always a minmaxers currrency

like yellow is for endgame gambas etc

[autumn dagger]

breach is pretty high investment because of scarab prices, so its actaully a lot better if you have a friend (and way way way better with leechers) even if you 50/50 loot

[misty hinge]

but yellow is dropping

[autumn dagger]

but yeah you'll find tons of the new vaal orbs in breach strat

[misty hinge]

oh they're in the breach strat also?

damn

[autumn dagger]

the new vaal orbs come from beyond monsters in mirages

the best way to spawn beyond monsters is breach, since breach spawns hundreds of regular mobs

[misty hinge]

mhm, know the basics

been here since legion league, but thats why i ove the game, everything changes in a league or a few

[autumn dagger]

but the total profit is a bit painful unless you hit big

[finite lodge]

breach scarabs pries dropped since it was "realesd" , mean fubgun videos and everything so even if they seems expensive, rigth now are half the price they used to be

[misty hinge]

yeah i did like 1k blight ravaged when tained sold good, and uniques are still good

but it doesnt feed that well anymore

[autumn dagger]

idk, bloodlines + risk is still over 2d, full mirage t16.5 map almost 4d, prerolled prefix/suffix maps are like 1d+ since the scour bots logged off

for me it was like 10-15d/hr strat stably, but then also 2 mirror and 2 lock drops that bring that average way up

[finite lodge]

there's a way to optimize that farm, u dont need to go full currency on all maps, first 2 maps even 3 are not so worth it

[autumn dagger]

but no clue how to calculate them

yeah i run bad implicit for 1-2 maps, good implicit 1-2 maps, then end with full map mirage

astrolabe optimization helps a lot

[finite lodge]

so u can run the low strar on the firs 2-3 even with just pack size chisel and the last ones depending on astrolabes mods and aprox how many maps lets, u got full invest

yep

[misty hinge]

and thats like what 30-50 div average/h?

[autumn dagger]

no clue on average, ive played a lot this league. I'd guess that range is correct, but its super spiky depending on rng

[finite lodge]

wayway i feel the cheap version of breach is quite good, not need to use the bloodline scarab unless a really nice mods on astrolabes. And u can addapt that with beyond to farm some currency with breach and new vaal at same time

like 1 vaal each3 maps or so?

[autumn dagger]

also worth mentioning you need a really good pc

[finite lodge]

(not talkinga bout being lucky and getting 2 vaal at same maps or 1 vaal each 1 0r 2 maps)

[autumn dagger]

like the strat is minimaxing the number of monsters on your screen (breach mobs, beyond mobs, deli mobs, etc) so if your pc cant handle it your maps will end up taking like 15-20min each

and strat gets a lot worse

my game freezes if i open more than 1 breach at once in bloodlines, profit/hr would definitely be higher if i could run 2 at once

[finite lodge]

If u ask me now, will go for harvest, nigthmare rush, astrolabe farm or adapting breach farm to get the new vaal orbs (no astrolabe need)

[raw oar]

if i have the build that chain explodes/ignites everything, do i get less monsters in breach?

[autumn dagger]

no

[finite lodge]

no

[autumn dagger]

you just get huge lagspikes

have fun

[finite lodge]

ur build doesnt affect the amount of monsters u get from breach or map itself. it depens more on pack size, ur atlas setup, ur scarabs

[misty hinge]

yeah, one reason im thinking of a 3rd, expensiev build, is speed harvest

[raw oar]

that was a lot more playable than anything else so far, i never tried bloodlines yet but on budget maps/scarabs i can open 3 breaches at once and it seems even better than 1 at a time

[misty hinge]

atm my elehit and coc are just too slow

[autumn dagger]

ye harvest should be like 3 minute maps

[misty hinge]

if i could get the speed up, i think 30-40div/h could be quite ez

[autumn dagger]

run to plot, zap em all, run to mirage, zap the yellow, go next

harvest astrolabe mods are EXTREMELY powerful so definitely make sure you're full clearing the base harvest

[misty hinge]

yeah ele is doing it like 4-5min, but kinda clunky(should invest more) and coc is 5-6min if i go for all the quant altars

ele gets gibbed if i dont check debuffs

[autumn dagger]

you can also optimize the astrolabe by dropping synthesized stability for the first 3-4 maps, trimming the edges of the astrolabe, then reallocating it and spamming the map with the best mods

[misty hinge]

but what ive today, is that packsize is more important than quant?

Iäve always known that quant is the key of harvest

[autumn dagger]

just for the base map

because t16.5 maps can roll special mods that give +20 packsize (while normal mods are 5-6) but cant roll the equivalent for quant

no t16.5 mod gives like +60 quant in one line

[raw oar]

are you doing breaches on dunes or some other maps?

[misty hinge]

ive been running 8mod t16

[finite lodge]

try 16.5

[autumn dagger]

ah yeah t16.5 with a 20% packsize mod doubled by suffix/prefix scarab is a lot better

[autumn dagger]

dunes or jungle valley, depending on mood

[misty hinge]

than 4 mortal frags?

[finite lodge]

as @autumn dagger told u, they run some nice mods to boost pack size, and with the double lifeforce prob, is really nice

[finite lodge]

depending on the mods rolled on the maps

[autumn dagger]

i was running sinistral/dextral + harvest doubling + 3 sac frags

and hitting like 35d/hr

definitely not fully optimized

[misty hinge]

hmmm

[finite lodge]

if the mod doesnt boost pack size, fragments are better, if the 16.5 mods boost pack size scarab is better

[misty hinge]

corni worth it too then?

[autumn dagger]

no clue, i hate the stupid bosses

[misty hinge]

considering the time for bosses

[autumn dagger]

they take forever to kill

[finite lodge]

but im using uber atziri fragments

[misty hinge]

never used them, ever 😄

wait ubers are mortals

[finite lodge]

if u lure em to middle, usually get less bugged

[misty hinge]

no? kinda tipsy, kinda confused

[finite lodge]

yes

[autumn dagger]

mortal frag = green = big atziri
sac frag = purple = smol atziri

[misty hinge]

i usually dps them to straight tree phase

so no jumpy jumpy

[finite lodge]

just saying in case they get phase bugged, lure em to middle

[autumn dagger]

yeah

[misty hinge]

yeah ive tried that

makes a bit of a difference

but not much....

[autumn dagger]

its really just the blue guy

he leaps around so if u stand in open area he leaps past you and still faceplants wall

then wont phase

xdd

or maybe thats the yellow one

[misty hinge]

yellow has been by far my problem

[autumn dagger]

whichever has the leap attack

[finite lodge]

the yellow guy... he hates me

[misty hinge]

dashing tiger fker

[autumn dagger]

ye

[misty hinge]

he gets bugged the most

worst case like 30-40sec just waiting for him to jump around

then the instakill zone

and cant semiafk

[autumn dagger]

harvest you definitely need something 2nd monitor

[finite lodge]

so, going back to topic, harvest, astrolabe farm, nigthmare boss rush and those new vaal orb farm rigth? also an honorable mention to breach farm with optimize astrolabe strat (jut in case someone else ask XD)

[misty hinge]

thats why mid league ravaged was so ez €€

[autumn dagger]

plus tanky build

[misty hinge]

full afk

but idk if i just hit a long dryspell on uniques or the tainted/gold oil price drop

[finite lodge]

never made it mid leage, where u get the profit from?

[misty hinge]

but now i kinda feel there is something more profitable

even tried delve

500ish shallow

10-15d/h

[misty hinge]

tainted/gold/pris and uniques

plus still bases sold good

flasks gear tinc

[finite lodge]

delve depends on nods and some lucky stuff, found a video talking about delve profit, check it out at youtube

[misty hinge]

ive made like 40-50 div just because of i83+ imperial claws

[raw oar]

do whatever is fun as long as it seems to make something reasonably profitable, dont just look for div/hour

[misty hinge]

ive checked it

😄

em

all

thats why i tried it

[raw oar]

have you tried 4 domination scarabs+ 1 terrors?

[misty hinge]

im not usually that type of a dude, but this league i got the vibe to play more, and wanna make my 1st 10+mir build, but im stuck in endleague, hence why i started this thing, since i usually quit after a month, or just start to fk around with funky builds

till im broke

[misty hinge]

not in this league

maybe never

[autumn dagger]

farm a mirror on each strat

then decide ur fave

[misty hinge]

1.2k div atm... kinda sucks

could have bought 3 on week 3-4

(not braging, but something for me)

[raw oar]

zooming through maps while killing bosses on shrines should be fun for any build, and gives stuff like astrolabes and other things. Thinking if i can combine that with harvest (which i never tried) by replacing one scarab to doubling and changing the tree a bit

[misty hinge]

i feel like the best strats still kinda peak at 30-50 tops if lucky

[autumn dagger]

well if u drop a mirror you made 1200d that hour

xd

[misty hinge]

so i think ill roll a new one with the stuff i have, and still go back to harvest, just faster .d

never dropped a mirror

i did get a squire when it came out

in like t10 maps or so

my luckiest sht ever

insta sold everything and went for arakalis fang build

kinda felt like the highest highroll

still feels like it, even tho ive farmed way more networth after that, but a good memory from coloured pixels none the less

i think ive concluded this, make a faster build to farm harvest even faster is t16+ astro no corni, or maybe do a trial in harvest 16.5 with corni

kinda feel harvest is still the most stable

unless you drop a few mirrors back to back in breach 😄

[raw oar]

im not even sure if actual best strats are inside maps or not, i made much more this league from very random things i tried crafting/rerolling or even just 3 to 1 vendoring, not in maps, but i dont like to farm or craft without goal, my goal is always to make some cool few hundred divines range budget build

[autumn dagger]

ok i revisted some of my old snapshots from t16.5 breach currency farming, was getting average 3-3.5 sacred orbs per 2 hour farm session, not sure the exact sacred:mirror droprate now that we're out of affliction but 1:50 is probably a fair estimate so that'd mean a mirror every 30ish hours of breaching or 40d/hr of added profit in pure mirrors

[raw oar]

i heard sacreds are much more common this league

[autumn dagger]

yeah, in affliction it was 1:20

cuz wildwood wisps heavily weight towards rarer currencies

[misty hinge]

the loot changes might have fk it up too, need sirog to investigate

[autumn dagger]

maybe divines are a better counter though, those shouldn't have been changed

[misty hinge]

!giverep @autumn dagger

[sullen hedge]

@autumn dagger, you have been promoted to Trusted Service Provider!

[autumn dagger]

and it was 1:700 or 1:900 last time someone was able to data mine the numbers (which was like a decade ago, now ggg hid all of that)

[misty hinge]

!giverep @finite lodge

shipments are kinda meh also

[autumn dagger]

but yeah i heavily suggest finding a friend if you wanna do bloodlines/beyond/breach mirror finding strat

especially if you can make them pick up all the loot for you

[misty hinge]

yeah team strats with culler are always better

[autumn dagger]

mouse slave aurabot best teammate

na na dont need culler

[finite lodge]

pff dont tell me about it, send 2 ships and got 0 mirror shard im sad!

[autumn dagger]

just someone to click loot and add 50% more quant

[misty hinge]

but i kinda lost my crew 1-2 years ago

[autumn dagger]

50m?

[misty hinge]

same here 6 max sends and 0 gains

[autumn dagger]

holy you guys are cursed

[misty hinge]

kkinda lost it

[autumn dagger]

ive gotten 4 shards from 2x 50m ships

[misty hinge]

...

so this game is truely about RNG

you got our shards!!

[finite lodge]

yes

[autumn dagger]

ouch

[finite lodge]

hate u -.-!

[autumn dagger]

next one gonna be 6 shards

i can feel it

[misty hinge]

now that this has come to light, i would reccomend you to reimburse for our luck

WE got you those shards 😄

*helped

[autumn dagger]

niko got me those shards 😄

sulphite -> ore node best node

[finite lodge]

hahahahahahaha totally agree!!

[misty hinge]

i did the same when i was delving

[autumn dagger]

ah i just do it while boss rushing, grab the sulphite on the way to the boss room

[misty hinge]

and either you or niko fked me(im guessing us) over 😄

Anyhow, this was a really good talk, and thank you for all the inputs and brainstorming and banter, I rarely visit this place. Any of you still play Tribalwars.net? Yeah im kinda a geezer, but its getting late for me.
Thank you and may you all get your back to back mirror drops
Hanni out!

For future reference, about endleague moneymaking, HARVEST is still one in the top, optimize speed and yellow, maybe try t16.5 with more packsize, maybe conri also?, astors are good even in t16

[finite lodge]

a did long ago 🙂

Shhhh is a secret XDDD

[misty hinge]

i had a 15 year break.. but .. now im back at it again for past 2-3 years

still looking for an eu or aussie coplayer, we got 2 NA

[autumn dagger]

t16.5 special packsize mods, dextral/sinistral scarab to double, harvest doubling scarab, fruiting astrolabe EXTREMELY STRONG, run 3-4 edge maps without synthesized stability first, then reallocate and run map that gets best astrolabe mods, always clear full harvest in main map so your astrolabe objective completes, NO CROP ROTATION

[misty hinge]

one could make a youtube video a

out of it

tagging "end league farm" "3.28" "mirage"

cause spent a lot of time scrolling, and didnt find anything

[finite lodge]

it was a pleasure the brainsotrm talk tbh, ty guys!

[misty hinge]

TW calls hanni out, thank you again!

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[crude bone]

whats the best farm strat rn

[finite lodge]

harvest
some other good ones: astrolabe farm, nightmare rush farm, brach farm (optimized), volatila vaal orb farm

[crude bone]

how does harvest work

do u only do the sacred grove part in the map

and then dip

[finite lodge]

we already talk about it like 1 houir ago and .... let me find u the farm we agreed was the best sec

"t16.5 special packsize mods, dextral/sinistral scarab to double, harvest doubling scarab, fruiting astrolabe EXTREMELY STRONG, run 3-4 edge maps without synthesized stability first, then reallocate and run map that gets best astrolabe mods, always clear full harvest in main map so your astrolabe objective completes, NO CROP ROTATION" this one

[finite lodge]

here, @autumn dagger made a good resume of the conversation about harvest

[crude bone]

im sorry im genuinely stupid

what scarabs do we need exactly

and how much

[finite lodge]

dont say that!!!!! 😡

u need harvest doubling scarab, dextral or sinistral scarab depending on the mods of ur t16.5 map

if the mod giving u exta pack size are pref or suf, u choose the scarab that boost pref or suf

and u add some uber atziri fragments to fullfill the empty spaces

https://poedb.tw/us/Nightmare_map here u can see the pref and suf mods that can run onti ur 16.5 maps and the increased (pack size, currency, maps, etc)

[crude bone]

!giverep @finite lodge

[solid anvil]

!giverep @autumn dagger

[woeful creek]

what is the best farming strat for RF?

[lime patio]

Ritual probably.all mechanic can face tank and kill with no issue

Good reward as well

[gentle egret]

Stacked Decks or Breach

U can run beasts too pretty good

[woeful creek]

Isn't stack decks totally rng and i could waste divines and get nothing??
I feel like harvest is more like a shre thing, like you know how much approximately you are getting each run

[spiral marten]

you sell the stacked decks

[gentle egret]

U get about 120-140 decks per map

Sell decks for divines on faustus

No dmg spikes like on harvest from the rares doing chaos dmg

U don't actually open the decks urself

[woeful creek]

But why stack decks??? It seems too random

[gentle egret]

Ppl like to buy thousands of them at once and open all for hopes of some big cards to drop

They sell super fast and always in demand

[woeful creek]

Do you know how many decks for 1 div?

[gentle egret]

Last I checked 70

[gentle egret]

U also can get ridan from mirage for black barya cuz ur running the mirage to double ur decks to that number and ur doing rituals too so u can get some jackpot items from that on top

U just buy 5 scarabs of cloistering and put ur 8 mod map in or 6 mod

I did 6 mods to get that number of cards, 8 mod will be more

And I wasn't doing Originator t16.5 just 16s

[cold dirge]

Whats the best div farming method for a guy with no divs. 😂

[past steppe]

operative boxes

[cold dirge]

Scarabs ?

[tribal charm]

its all the cheap ambush scarabs (no containment - take an extra ambush for more boxes) - this is the budget version, do it on haunted mansion, if you want to speedfarm only open the diviners, arcanist and operative strongboxes and ignore all the rest - make sure you go into the mirage also - strat is dirt cheap and can get you 15-20div+/hr no problem

[autumn dagger]

if you're strong nightmare map farming is insane, like 30-50d/hr depending on how fast u go, and costs basically 0 investment (maps are like 50c each and sacrifice fragments basically free)

[prime grotto]

fragment farm?

[lost zenith]

Drop rates for Operative Strongboxes might have changed recently, ive done about 40 maps today and theres less high end scarabs, plus some of the scarabs are dropping in value

[unique plume]

Does any Sanctum farmer know what strat they use to farm the original Sin?
Do they use the relic quantity% farming method or the coin farming method with The First Crest relic?

[maiden fern]

Relic quantity is the way to go get above 100% and Lycia will always drop 2 unique relics

[zenith loom]

anyone running 100% deli div card farm? Any tricks there how to make it a bit easier? I can do it well with 80% deli, but 100% is making the maps take more than 10min with a full mirage map

[vast heart]

excuse me bois and sis, anyone running breach strat? may i know what atlas best for run breaches , tysm

[autumn dagger]

https://poeplanner.com/a/6cBY

this one

[woeful creek]

I'm looking for a farming start for RF where gains are more then the cost
i tried some strats before but it always tend to cost more then what it yields

[fluid ridge]

what are u even farming to lose money man

[zenith loom]

For RF the go to strat is ultimatum - besides that its impossible not to make a profit if you farm stacked decks with cloister scarab or rush alva temples with timeline scarab

[raw hemlock]

I feel the same here

[meager shard]

should i even start farming juiced breach on a non rarity stack build?i ve tried it now on bv build and it feels much easier than on my kbock build with rarity

[boreal geode]

I would tell you no, not from personal experience but saw many many people saying they were spending much more per map than what they were getting

Like unless u dropped a lock or some big hits, it wasnt being profitable

[rich sedge]

Imo if you dont stack rarity just farm budget breach and make ez money that way

[modern fulcrum]

anyone know standard strats?

[broken robin]

just beast hunting alone is 80d on std. Scarab farming from strongboxes also omega profit

also nightmare boss rush for fragments, fantastic income

[maiden fern]

I'm smashing out betrayal as quick as I can, can anyone think of anything to run alongside it that makes the map take almost no longer? Currently I do Kalguur hoping for starfall craters, but even with 2 kalguur scarabs that is only 3 scarabs used.

[autumn dagger]

run it on nightmare maps abomiation and grab the maven fragments for extra 1d/map

[main trellis]

what is the scarab,chisel,astroblade need for breach run?

[gaunt parcel]

2x instability, wisp, bloodlines, risk (or cascade), avarice, grasping

[languid vortex]

got a question about the budget version

im doing 2x lineage 2x instability and 1x wisp because i cant run risk and bloodlines

would i still run deli orbs and chisel or is it a waste of money?

[fluid ridge]

u make your money back on deli orbs most of the time, stay away from avarice chisels if u arent hard juicing

[languid vortex]

gotchu ty. I don't think im far off being able to run mega juiced but atm i die once a map

[maiden fern]

That kinda changes it from being damn near free, plus it doesnt use more scarabs and it makes it so I have to kill the map boss, instead of just running past everything aside from betrayal and starfall craters.

[snow leaf]

Hi can anyone tell me what's the ratio for shipment in kalgur?I'm trying to chase for mirror shards if its still possible
Appreciate it

[boreal geode]

Thye changed the whole shipments thing, now the ones used are ores instead of crops, and i think u cant send for currency anymore

Now its mostly tattoos or runes

But dont know much more than that, didnt use kingsmarch at all this league

[snow leaf]

So you don't send mixed crops anymore ?

And man ,if they removed currency as potential reward,that kinda sucks

[boreal geode]

Yup, exactly

[boreal geode]

I dont know that for sure tho, but im like 90% certain

[gaunt parcel]

yeah 1-2 deli orbs no chisel is fine for budget

[languid vortex]

what gems would you level in background?

i've been leveling some supports but they arent selling

[gaunt parcel]

oh I don't bother with that, maybe i should hahah

[languid vortex]

i was leveling void manip and volatility

but they just dont sell lmao

[gaunt parcel]

could check ninja? https://poe.ninja/poe1/economy/mirage/skill-gems

[rancid delta]

bars

ores and bars got swapped with crops

fracturing orbs are in the pool which kinda fucked mirror shard rates we think but 17m/50m are still ur targets

ive gotten several mirr shards this league, they still work

[snow leaf]

So 17m crops 50m bars ?

With like 100k dust for multiplier ?

[rancid delta]

no

8.5m value in bars + 8.5m dust
OR
25m value in bars + 25m dust

dust is set equal to whatever else you put in UNTIL dust > {total value of everything else}, at which point it tapers off logarithmically

[snow leaf]

i see i see

[rancid delta]

in 3.28, crops behave like ores once did (giving you equipment); bars/ores behave like crops once did (giving you currency)

tats/runegrafts are determined by total value, not resource type

so you'll still get them

[snow leaf]

so crops for tatoos and runes,bars for currency

gotcha

[rancid delta]

its worth noting that now each port has it's own base type; moti aro (new port) = int tats; te onui = dex tats; ngakanu = str tats

[snow leaf]

!giverep @rancid delta

thx alot

[zenith loom]

Anyone running Nightmare boss rush? What are you combining this with if anything? I can get map time down to 1min, so not sure how much adding other mechanics makes sense

[boreal geode]

most of the times nightmare boss rush is literally just rushing

some people add kalguran scarabs in case they see a crater they do it

[zenith loom]

Yeah

I am thinking of 3 things

Kalgur

Beasts

And possibly Alva

I think Alva is difficult as it will not be efficient to search for Alva if its not on the way

[boreal geode]

yeah, i wouldnt get incursion there

beasts and ores sounds fine tho

i would recommend thoes

[zenith loom]

👍

[rancid delta]

beasts slow u down a lot

(i beast farmed while doing some frag testing @ 0 quant)

yellows/vultures can be good money but i'm honestly not sure if its more worth to just kill the boss

i would assume the answer is "yes unless you're absurdly lucky"

[zenith loom]

what scarabs did you use?

I feel red beasts are not really great at all this league

But 60 yellows go for 3d, so might just use the duplication one and skip the red ones

[zenith loom]

.

[rancid delta]

was on herdx2/duplicating, originally target-farming vultures

may be more worthwhile to just do duplicating and not go for reds in terms of time

[zenith loom]

yeah I think so

especially bc I think it might be worth to run the maps with 0 quant so I then have 2 scarabs locked for that

so only 3 scarabs free - and aside from duplicating then I guess taking 2 Kalgur scarabs might be better

[rancid delta]

no

quant increases fragment #. how so is a matter of active research, but i can tell u that higher area quant is better

around the ~250ish range you can get 4 fragments from a map and stop getting 1 fragment maps

[boreal geode]

i read somewhere that that thing was removed in this league

[rancid delta]

no

[boreal geode]

many fake news then

[rancid delta]

at least not according to active Sciencing

[zenith loom]

sure, but its a matter of either juicing quant a lot and getting 1-2 fragments more but this also adds kill time of the boss

[boreal geode]

nah, if u have recent info about it i 100% trust you

was saying it in case the info was from last league

[rancid delta]

ive been the resident 0 quant runner

so i havent tried both gigajuice and 0 juice

[boreal geode]

yeah, i only did 0 juice

tho i got 3 frags in some

so i thought what i read could be true

[rancid delta]

generally it doesnt add much kill time ime

[boreal geode]

never 4 tho

[rancid delta]

1-3 frags is normal at 0 quant

[zenith loom]

Yeah, I tried juicing but it didnt feel worth it in terms of added map time

[rancid delta]

ig depends on how strong ur build is

[boreal geode]

depends a lot on the build also, i did juiced in last league and was the same as none juiced, as i insta deleted the boss in any

[zenith loom]

You can get 3-4 if you giga juice but again the benchmark time with 0 quant is 1 min for me

so if I take 2 with giga juice its not worth the hassle

[rancid delta]

this graph is Not Perfect as there's a lot of low sample sizes in some places

but this is part of the working dataset

[zenith loom]

Phew this doesnt look worth it at all

[rancid delta]

also note that when this was made there were no actual 0 quant (requires the quant::rarity on atlas tree)

[zenith loom]

Lets say it takes me 30s more with 200quant

Its already not worth it

[rancid delta]

yeah sure

[boreal geode]

yeah, if your build suffers against the bosses, then its prob not worth it

[rancid delta]

if u nuke anything in the game then its very worth

[boreal geode]

only situation it is, is when its the same

[rancid delta]

but if u take time to kill bosses no

[boreal geode]

exactly

[zenith loom]

Sure, if I somehow dont take more time then for sure

But I dont have a dedicated bosser

So juicing will make the boss time longer

[rancid delta]

if ur on a mapping build boss rushing probably not ur best bet

but if ur just doing different stuff for variety i respect

[boreal geode]

in which map are you taking 1 min to do btw?

[zenith loom]

but then why did you run 0 quant for it?

Abomination

[boreal geode]

oh, not so bad time then

[rancid delta]

i ran 0 quant just for science

i do not really need money

[zenith loom]

I see

[boreal geode]

i ran 0 quant for laziness

rolling maps, ew

[zenith loom]

Also map rolling speed is a factor

[boreal geode]

if u don't buy them, yes

[zenith loom]

You dont need to look at maps at all

[boreal geode]

still 250% quant may not be so hard to get

[zenith loom]

So what was 40+ div? 0 quant or more?

[boreal geode]

as atlas tree quant i think it ocunts

[rancid delta]

thats fair, presumably the ideal range for rolling + quant is something like maybe 220ish? i completely forget how quant scales on t17s nowadays :golly:

[boreal geode]

no golly for u

[rancid delta]

in terms of speed *

[rancid delta]

i asked man they said no

[boreal geode]

[zenith loom]

its not and I can kill the boss fine, but a) I cant run all mods efficiently so need to roll the maps a bit and b) for me at least it adds 20-30s of map time so its not worth it in terms of frags

[rancid delta]

gotcha

yeah if u wanna just put on sinstral+dextral thats fine

[boreal geode]

yeah no, for sure, i wasn't talking about your situation at all now hahahaha

[rancid delta]

if ur adding beasts do remember that beasts have a fixed time to kill since u need to wait for einhar to throw the net at them

[zenith loom]

yeah and then I think 2 Kalguran scarabs and 1 duplication for yellow beasts

[rancid delta]

could work

mayaswell put on lost shipments on tree if ur doing that

[zenith loom]

I think reds are not worth as you said

[rancid delta]

lost shipments r kinda strange but they take 0 seconds and sometimes u get a div or a nice tattoo

also if u have kalguuran on i always click bismuth just so u can do shipments later on

same with putting on the sulphite::ore on tree and adding sulphite to maps (for even more ores)

[zenith loom]

makes sense

[rancid delta]

tho be warned if u do that while u boss rush if ur actually efficient ur gonna end up wiht an enormous amount of ores in the backlog and ur gonna get stressed watching the 700000 unsmelted ore pile only get worse lmao

[zenith loom]

And tbh just running boss rush with 0 chance of any jackpot is also demotivating - gambling for Svalin makes it at least also a bit fun

haha

[rancid delta]

yea for sure, ive done thousands of t16 boss rushes for astrolabes, and one of the motivating factors is just "maybe i get a mist/mirror/lock this time". science on that is kinda on hold atm bc of irl stuff but i will resume vault gambling soon™

[zenith loom]

yeah thats the advantage of running t16s with the vault

If you rush Alva I did that too, but div/h without jackpots from Vault was a bit lower

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[zenith loom]

!giverep @rancid delta

[boreal geode]

lost shipment always keeps you ilusions up hahaha

craters do too

[zenith loom]

the funniest thing was last league for me

I normally dont run Kalgur

But 2nd map I put it on my atlas I not only got a crater but directly Svalin

Despect right after (and yes I know how probabilities work) 😉

[boreal geode]

Lucky af

i think i dropped like 7 svalinns

all in settlers when it was worth nothing

[zenith loom]

Good times

[manic harbor]

Hi all.

Kinda lost here, what would be good farming strat for TS at ~10m dmg?

I'm in Standard, I did delirium, it was fun, but the market is temporarily broken and scarabs are at unfavourable prices. Legion doesnt sound like profit in standard.

[fluid ridge]

legion

oh

lowkey if youre in standard u can probs just do cheap harvest for yellow juice

[autumn dagger]

sprinting memory threads looks like insane profit in standard, like +3d for zooming 5 maps, deadeyes are pretty good at being fast

[versed rock]

Do blue altars apply to div cards scried onto a map (like currency-based div card drops to find Sephirot from Ivory Temple on Dunes, etc)?

[rancid delta]

"drops a card rewarding currency" already ignores your maps pool, they can drop a house of mirrors even though youre not in uber atziri land

its a separate table for what can drop from those as opposed to the normal loot

div dupe works obviously, card rewarding X is unaffected

[versed rock]

oh ok really helpful ty

[versed rock]

i guess its really rare which is why i never knew

!giverep @rancid delta game help

[old steeple]

Is it worth to all in investment on breach?

[autumn dagger]

depends how long you're gonna play for

10 maps then quit league? probably not
10 days of blasting? good chance of locks/mirror

breach/bloodlines/delirium/beyond spawns a LOT of monsters, which most players pcs cant handle. I'd definitely join a public breach party as a leecher and do 1-2 fully juiced maps first to make sure it's not gonna be a permanant slideshow on your setup.

[languid vortex]

also worth mentioning its massively rng based and you're fishing for the big drops

i ran 100 breach maps over the past day with risk, bloodlines, wisp, currency chisels and multiple deli orbs, also rolled the maps for high quant and high currency and broke even by the end

[fair sapphire]

Yeah tbh i got really tired of breach after some time

Currently looking for a more fun (less repetitive) alternative

Harvest is nice but you are kinda locked to juice only loot, no crazy drops

[languid vortex]

not sure if its any good as i've never done it but people like legion

[amber yoke]

Hi guys, do these two just count as yellow beasts, so I can release them all?

[old steeple]

Theres this guide on yt, you put regex and delete all trash and save all good beasts.

[arctic cloud]

right pic is yellow beast, left pic is red beast

60 yellow beast = 1 set = 3d on https://discord.com/channels/645607528297922560/1489376845978669106

[lunar dove]

Hey ! Is there a strat for ilvl 84 clusters ?

[amber yoke]

good to know man, i spend 15 min to delete them alll

[vernal nebula]

my ping spikes when i do 80 deli breach maps but on normal maps im ok

[autumn dagger]

yeah deli beyond breach has much higher pc requirements than other farming strats

[terse jungle]

any farming methods that synergize with bv chieftain?

[zenith loom]

so, for the rest of the league i want to farm an echoing shrine belt - I already have mageblood. Currently prices are at 450d - is buying really the best option or would it be directly farming the belt?

[autumn dagger]

buying is by far far far cheaper. farming (and specifically IDENTIFYING) screams of the dessicated is a huge huge gamble where people are aiming for the multi-mirror double shrine outcomes. trying to identify an echo shrine belt will end up costing you 2-3 mirrors, but you might hit something worth multiple mirrors along the way

[zenith loom]

thank you - unfortunately not the most fun thing

!giverep @autumn dagger

[zenith loom]

How good is inscribed ultimatum now? Did it really get shadow nerfed mid league to around 20d per hour?

[boreal geode]

I mean, its a set rewards before you do so

and with set mods

so it should be the same as always

[zenith loom]

No I mean from what some of the more well known ulti farmers had said a few weeks back the div rewarding inscribed catas got a much lower weight

[boreal geode]

oh, you meant actually getting the inscribed ultimatums, not doing them

no clue about that, didn't farm ultimatum this league

[broken robin]

There's a lot of tinfoil hats about it. The answer is no though.

POEGuy was one of the folks that's started league with Ult and then put on tin foil hat like everyone else because echo chamber. Then he did a zero to mirror challenge and got 1.2 mirrors by day 5 or 6 or something purely running Ult and without jackpots.

[gilded finch]

i myself made around 5 mirrors in a week of running ultis with a bit of flipping

[deep trench]

If i'm playing a map blaster like kinetic blast necro, what early mechanics should I go for?

[north blade]

legion / breach ?

people do legion while early league for 6 links, but if you just start now i think the best just straight to breach whenever you can. its provide juicy exp and as soon as you reached t16,5 map do more currencies map = raw currencies drop like shyt.

[ivory obsidian]

breach

[deep trench]

I'll go for breach then. Thanks to both of you guys!

[clear cairn]

is pack size chisel worth it for budget breach? and how should i optimize my lootfilter (i js turned off mostly everything below 2-4c iirc, but i wanna be sure i wont miss out on anything)

[crisp fiber]

be the no loot filter chad

show the normies that kalandrafication is a myth

[clear cairn]

👍

[fervent scroll]

i wonder if someone can give me some recommendations.
I realized i keep making new builds and selling of the previous build because I'm getting bored, but the realization is, I keep farming the same things with new builds.
Can someone recommend me some specialized strats that need specialized builds?
I currently have my main as a sparkmage. Then I have a Chains blight farmer in Tyty's PL.
I don't want to do Ulti again, and don't want sanctum.

[cosmic linden]

if u like boxes and play spark u can do containment full mirage maps and use the caster mastery for auto opening boxes, so u can zoom super fast

that's exactly what i did in phrecia 2.0 with spark

[lime reef]

Problem is that you already named the content that requires some of the most-specialized builds to do well in. Most other stuff will still work/feel good with the bulk of builds that can manage overall fast clear.

That said, if you just need some content recommendations, just about everyone agrees Unstable Breaches are pretty fun (and profitable) right now.

[small spade]

is crop rotation better or worse for harvest farm?

[lime reef]

As it stands right now, I'm pretty sure it's worse. It used to be the best when there was Awakened Harvest available as a crafting option: the key part was that it let you get up to a 60% chance for un-chosen crops to not wilt, which meant from a 10-crop grove, you'd average 8 crops, and with crop rotation, each crop was much more valuable than the last.

With the removal of map device crafting options, now it's only a 10% chance, which is a drop to 5.5 crops. I can't really see how this'd make it viable.

Much better is to just use astrolabes and only a doubling scarab; you still can get 5-10k+ yellow juice per map with this strat.

[terse jungle]

farming stacked decks on 5x diviner deli mirage maps

been using 2x magic pack size + 2x faster deli meter fill + awakening scarab

awakening scarab is too rippy with feared tho, any suggestions for replacement?

[broken robin]

Roll maps with pack size pre/suffixes and use sinestral/dextral to double your pack size

[raw hemlock]

Someone doing breach farm? I think Im very unlucky in this farm, I did 50 maps and im losting money

[bright grove]

Anyone who is knowledgeable about Syndicate mind dming me?

[autumn dagger]

if you're losing money over 50 maps you're doing something wrong, it should be profitable even before lock/mirror drop (but not THAT profitable). I really doubt it's possible to be unlucky on divine/puzzlebox drops over that long of a sample.

are you full clearing the unstable breaches? they are quite large, the number 1 mistake I see people make is they sprint to the middle and close the breach the instant the boss spawns.

correct atlas/scarabs/maps/chisel/deli orbs? killing boss early (if dunes) and clicking altars before breaches?

if you're certain you're doing everything right and still suffering losses, you can go lower investment (drop bloodlines and risk for lineage x2 or lineage and wisp, roll maps a little less strictly) until you figure out the issue.

[raw hemlock]

Im full clearing before going to middle, I using Fubgun strat, 2 breach inst, bloodlines, risk, wisps maps with chisel and 144 quantity

[autumn dagger]

40+ packsize?

[raw hemlock]

38-40 xD

[autumn dagger]

huh i feel like if you exalt to 6 mod with 1 20% packsize mod

you're guarenteed 42+ or something

[zenith loom]

does anyone use locus of corruption for profit corruptions? What are people using it on? I guess some 6l body armours but would be good to know

[eager gust]

The only consistently profitable locus strategy, imo, is not “randomly double-corrupt some 6L body armours”. It is mostly about identifying the most meta uniques, sniping them with good rolls below their roll-adjusted market price, and then corrupting them in very large volume

The most example would be magebloods: buy 4-flask magebloods with perfect / high dex rolls under fair price, quality them with intrinsic catalysts, then locus hundreds of them. If your buy-in is good enough, this should trend positive over a large enough sample

But doing a few random items is basically gambling, not a real profit strategy. The edge comes from correct base selection, underpriced rolls, and volume

The second reasonable use case is corrupting items that can also be upgrades for your own build. Then even if the item is niche, a good hit can have personal value for you, not just resale value. So you are combining profit corruption with fishing for your own gear

[lucid glade]

Been testing Blight farming in T16.5 maps recently, and I wanted to share my findings so far to see if anyone has ideas on how to optimize the strategy further.

Atlas Setup
https://poeplanner.com/atlas-tree/BQAaAACJAIfUXz6672MP67skl7L63LzcO96iHf2GtLTHLJJdoAh6hCrxVG2IuP_AKh7PPFkhYDXMvgoTQjD6jRSDzsfB_3WMQbVmAGUQgF6dzloVXMn9jeqovCq72Vu92h195PeL4X2RDkqBt97-qgqINNoUnzu5qv5_Kl7Uj4ed0MbbU5aMaCvJz1F3baaCp73HKY3cf445RVZZhoJRN-NuL89HAJHwgLPHjDD7sQusaYJe36LQ4AxfSssXz4mlHcddxB_m6H5ADvnhRRmUkYkYi8Gv4ZQLcTp25ezVYgLavURxC1sej-UchNibFuDCdqlD5Pz-N01gtWOgcT8IxBhYJvgE5DMWA0zy_Cyg7ekkudStCyPf0CgUAB-LCAAAAAAAAAMDAAAAAAAAAAAA

•Astrolabe: Blight

Map Setup
• T16.5 Originator maps • 110%+ quantity • 50%+ pack size • Full party with 250% quant buff

The results below are based on roughly 15-map averages for each setup.

Setup 1
Scarabs
• Blooming • Blightheart • Titanic • Legends • Wisps

Results
• Unique drops: High | • Currency drops: Low | • Difficulty: Hard | good if you are targeting unique item farm, with some iir

Setup 2
Scarabs
• Blooming • Blightheart • Wisps • Legends • Wisps

Results
• Unique drops: Low | • Currency drops: High | • Difficulty: Very hard | due to Legend giving proximity shields became extremely annoying here, especially for leechers. A lot of deaths. not worth the effort.

Setup 3
Scarabs
• Blooming • Blightheart • Legends • Wisps • Invigoration

Results
• Unique drops: High | • Currency drops: Very high | • Difficulty: Extreme | Leechers were dying constantly during this setup | very good for duo farming.

Setup 4
Scarabs
• Blooming • Blightheart • Wisps • Wisps • Bloodlines

Results
• Unique drops: Normal | • Currency drops: Very high | • Difficulty: Normal | This setup felt very smooth in clearing, but Bloodlines at ~500c each makes the ROI pretty questionable since blight lanes are inconsistant.

Setup 5 (Best So Far)
Scarabs
• Blooming • Blightheart • Wisps • Wisps • Invigoration

Results
• Unique drops: High| • Currency drops: Highest overall | • Difficulty: Very hard | This setup feels incredible when the Blight lanes form a U-shape instead of a straight line.

What I’m currently trying to figure out is how to consistently force better Blight lane generation through map layouts.

Maps tested so far
• Dunes • Jungle Valley • Mesa • Tower • Cemetery • Beach • Shore • Silo

So far, Jungle Valley has been the best performer. It isn’t too narrow, and the trees naturally block lanes, causing the Blight to form U-shapes more often. Most other layouts tend to spread in long straight lines, which feels noticeably worse.
Profit difference
• Bad layout average: ~2 raw divines (excluding other currency)
• Good U-shape layout average: ~5–6 raw divines, with occasional Mirror/Lock drops

I was hoping that by sharing this information, maybe some of you could share ideas on how to improve the strategy or make it more consistent.
Any thoughts, testing, or map suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[half latch]

Hey im going to farm for amanamu's gaze in ssf, i hear that the best way is just to farm abyssal depth but my question is, can a map have multiple depths or do i just put a scarab for depth and farm the abyss that have the depth ?

[versed shard]

pretty sure you can only have 1 depth per map

could be an easy test with this?

[half latch]

ok ok, is there a way to minimise the endless abyss bug ? i keep getting it so i never actually get a depth uh

[rancid delta]

late reply but the last time i knew the bug was caused by the abyss pathing somewhere horrendously wrong either due to weird topology (map generation) or extremely subtle lag. it's also possible that this specific bug was fixed and there's a New Bug because abyss is the most well coded mechanic in the game :golly: , if it is still the former then there's not really anything you can do other than playing on the most stable server near you

[smoky sapphire]

anyone got a good atlas tree for completing maps

[thin blaze]

GOLD ROOM¿? SELL

[terse jungle]

im doing xthefarmerx stacked deck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqTyLgK8zk) but i feel like there's gotta be a farming strat that scales higher than this

any advice? my char is pretty juiced

[stuck orbit]

What's the best farm for bosses, excluding nightmare rush?

[boreal geode]

Feared farming is one i enjoyed, then many ubers are kinda worth farming but tedious, or what kind of bosses u mean?

[stuck orbit]

Which ones are most profitable depends on the bosses, but I think I'll focus on Uber then.

[boreal geode]

Yes, wouldnt know for sure as i dropped the league like 3 weeks ago and prices may have changed, but most profitable ones used to be uber shaper and uber sirus, tho they are annoying fights

[stuck orbit]

Okay, I'll check them out. Thank you so much for your help, friend.

[boreal geode]

No problem at all, glad to help

[broken robin]

Uber Maven has a few high value drops but price of progen flask has seen the biggest nose dive since it's been introduced

[lucid glade]

still a decent roll goes for 70d

[willow verge]

5% off perfect is 30d currently

[thorn fjord]

Anyone know the best maps to get breach fortress in mirage so far it seems like fortress, pit, lair and cursed are at like a 65% bc of some weird coding. Other than that it seems like its heavily weighed to not be inside?

[deep trench]

What would be a good build for farming essences?

[cobalt swallow]

Im getting this bug too, not often but still, mostly when a latency spike happens right before its going to move from starting point, but it's personally my problems with server connection sometimes, i think this bug starts differently from person to person

[terse jungle]

recommended farm for LA deadeye thats not quite ready for 100% deli?

(not enough dmg)

60% deli breach?

[autumn dagger]

the jump from 80% deli to 100% deli is a 5x jump in monster tankiness (76% damage reduce vs 95% damage reduce) so if you're anywhere close to being able to play 100% deli you'll be fine in 80%, and the loot is almost exactly the same.

[woeful creek]

hey guys
so my build is RF block based, and my farming strat now is stack deck cards with ritual, I'm getting by average 70 stack decks and ritual has been giving NOTHING so far, is there another mechanic i can do with stack deck? also i am aiming for a mirrors build, with this farming strat I'm not getting that before the end of the league lool

so is there any suggestions or recommendations?

[versed shard]

ritual is there just to provide the stacked deck monsters again, its not an actual ritual farming strat