I think both mods are very different so it is hard to compare. Tetra, to me, is more balanced than tinkers (at least more than tinkers 2, haven't touched the versions past 1.12). Tetra is way more simplistic and doesn't require as much setup as tinker's does. I also like the style of the mod more, tinker's looks outdated to me which is also due to the fact that so many modpacks have it and I've grown tired of it.
#MCE2 Sneak Peek Discussion
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It can be hard to get into though due to the UI and there not being as much written documentation about the mod
I also like Tetra because on private servers, it's way easier to just pop in and set your own balancing stats if something is missing or turns out to be OP or underpowered.
Which ever they add I can’t wait to learn it.
i love tetra's theme and ui but I really dont like hunting for the power plants and the structures especially on populated servers. solo I dont mind for sure
Adam is MIA
Thanks!
Adam is here :>
Its like a divine spirit just showing up with a pack of crackers and a plate of cheese like “yo waddup”
We found adam, he has returned to us seeming to be safe. Would he like to add anymore context onto how he is feeling? Lets ask him. *** i reach out a comically large mic out at adam and accidently hit him in the lip***
Daily check in ✅
source?
Trust me bro
i read it on the internet and i hear everything on the internet is true
but, it is still important to double check if that information is true and legit, this is why i stalk people
i-
For the few people that have been playing the beta can you sum it up in three words
There's no beta
Patience Is required
I skimmed over some past messages and saw the word beta a lot my mistake
@twin mason surely this year
Im so hyped for it
Classic
That’s what they want us to think!
There is daily check in?
No, there's daily chicken.
i was about to say that is a rooster, until i realized that not all chickens are white 😭
A rooster is a chicken
a male chicken
manifesting sneek peek tomorrow
its a rooster
bantam roosters have sickle feathers
plus those hackles are pretty vibrant
thanks for the rooster information
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in approximately || || hours
Daily check inn
Daily check out
Daily crab rave
🦀
Daily Crabbin🦀
doesn't look like it
one person cant do it all
skill issue
Just manifest harder 4head
rat
talk for more 200 years before trying that again.
Today was my fourth potato harvest dreaming of MCE2 .... how many harvests... how many potatoes... until our dreams come true... better tater than never they say... time fries when you're having fun they say...
best to line up at the starching point
this was so beautiful.
Alexa, play despacito
Daily rattin
No rat pics. 0/10
Crab check? 🦀
Not if we keep the proper stuff on hand.
snek pek when
Adam, how much you'd guess you leaked from mce2 into the sneak peaks or here? % wise?
18%
trade secret
He mentioned before that it was about 6.9%
confirmed
How would you calculate something like that
i thought it was 4.20% ?
Well it was 4.20%, but after April passed us by it went up to 6.9%
did the rats tell you what time?
at cheese hour
thanks !
it would seem like the rats lied to me
Daily, "hi, how are ya?"
The update famine is driving those under my care feral
May we please have an update milord
Even a crumb of a screenshot, so the masses moight leave me 'ead on me shoulders another day

the rats lied
It’s time for war against the rats! This will be the last lie they ever speak!!!!!
I bet the next sneak peek will have the color blue in it
I bet a quintillion dollars that the next sneak peak is gonna have something from mce2
Mmm… water….
Very deep water
<gasp> There will be squid in the Overworld!!!
*who said it was the overworld *
best sneak peak ever
A friend's reply to the latest
Adams probably in Dubai rn drinking bottomless mimosas as we speak with his army of rats by his side.
this is that one dimension mod isnt it
It's one of em I tell you what
I was super expecting a giant shark or whale or something to attack 😄
It seems like there was a a little blue somewhere in this one.
Daily sink in🌊
Let that sink in
good god they are on to something
inb4 it is full of sea serpents from Ice and Fire
I was right
cannot Wait to drown there, wherever it is 😎👍
water farm 🤑
just water .. that couldnt be Lantea from SG journey right ? that wasnt already in 1.16
Daily Sneak rattin?
yeah, i had dinner
My severe Thalasophobia is tingling. The reason I don't play Alex's Caves nor have I been in a pool in over 15 years D: D: D:
mce2 when?
nobody asked for a long time
you mean, nobody delayed it for a long time
mce2 was definitely planned for launch tomorrow, but then you had to do it, i guess i should keep living until 2047
Making mce2's release date your reason to live would make you immortal. (Take all the time you need Adam)
so far immortality is being fun, although some reviews say it gets pretty boring after a few years
I heard goat doesn't frequent this channel, maybe I can spread my tomfoolery here
not if i have anything to say about it
🔨
:((
AND I DO, IM GONNA SAY THE G WORD
||greg||


That's because they didn't generate any wealth on which they could do whatever they want
Instead of mce3, can we get Adam's version of gregtech 🤣
Coming Soon: Adamtech nothing but rats
no item pipes, no cables, no harvesting machines. all must be automated with rats
Greg is love Greg is life
in the end it is just a rat reskin of thaumcraft golems
i really hope the new thuamcraft is finished soon. miss it so much
forgot which version the new thaumcraft will be for. ill need to check
apparently it will be the latest neoforge whenever they finish it
guess we will have to wait for MCE3 to play with thaumcraft in an MCE pack again
just gotta wait until minecraft 1.43.6, won't be long
i shall take that bet. if it fails to make it to 1.43 i shall give you one dollar in turn.
ill set an alarm on my phone for 20ish years to check on the bet
Same
apparently i actually have reminders for 20ish years out on my calendar already for multiple dumb bets i have jokingly made
all fine until an AoE damage comes down and wipes them all out
my ragnamod VI playthrough had a bunch of rat automation and then my mekanism reactor overcharged and killed all of them
just give them all the angel upgrade or w/e it's called
the one that makes them respawn after some amount of time
I bet 1 usd, that you will have a different calender in 20 years and thus not remember any of the bets
Was the beta forgotten about 😢
what people never seem to understand is that the poll was simply about the potential possibility of there being an open beta at some point, not that one would actually release right then if enough people said yes to the poll
they play for more than 5 years and they don't even do a gold farm smh
welp now we’re harvesting our peppers and squash…. what’s next…. Watermelons… pumpkins!? 😭
cheese for the rats, so we can get more sneak peeks
too much work
can only eat rats
thats amazing
we love gambling
i call feet
a rat is like a cat in the fact that it lands on its feet
A rat is like a cat in the fact that they are both food come Apocalypse times
Unless it a ratpocalyse then you are the food
plague inc
Ngl everyone gonna be gone by the time this out
for real....im ready to accept it and move on
so be it
real ones stay no matter the cost
Might be out by the time of my retirement
Crab🦀
seems like a good way to spend your retirement, thatd honestly work out
someday I will play it, and it will be a good day. until then we are patient and do other stuff 🙂
is there a thumacraft in mce2?
probably not, since there is no iteration of thaumcraft on 1.16, nor does the team working on it plan to be
but that doesn't mean there might not be something similar in some way
yeah i hope that its really a cool mod to play with
How Developed is Irons Spells in 1.16 ?
A lot of inactivity here
Calm before the storm
Let's hope lol
I feel like everyone is just lurking until Adam drops another sneak peak, then discussions will start up again.
yeah ! snek pek time
What did this mean btw? #🎨mce2-dev-sneak-peek message
I'm guessing a pet version of the slime king that they demo'd on a discord stream once
Hi
I was wondering about the damage balancing in mce2 compared to mce1. it felt super weird going from doing 30-40 damage to 700-1000 when you unlock nihilite and other equipment on par with that, and the bosses being adjusted to that as well. could you tell us if it's the case for mce2 as well, or is it more grounded without huge spikes ?
I mean, that's a lite moment. Nihilite is endgame in full mce
The balance of mce1 has been adjusted a fair bit over time and while I hope mce2 will start more balanced it'll still need some time for adjustment
I never even reached nihilite
Monthly Check in
🐴
🦀
I love crab
will it be tinkers construct in mce2?
Oui
Terraria like master mode pets would be cool for some bosses for the mod pack
Mce2 came out 2 years ago cant belive it been so long
I think the daily check in man has died it’s been that long
W
H
🦀
Daily Check in till mce2 comes
Discouragement amongst the ranks.
Smh
The comment from green is so funny haha like yeah you're totally not gonna be the first to play when it comes out
I kinda like greens approach ngl
You gotta get over the hype and check in on it patiently here and there
You can be excited for something without being obsessive over it
Crab?
Where snail?
🐌
still on his way
no
daily impatience in
3 years of patience. might as well make it 4
Minecraft is at least 3 years old now
Technically correct is the best kind of correct.
Can we get an update
Eventually
I vote we do unhinged things, not for him to release it sooner but just cause it would be fun
Daily chzeck in
U czeck?
I thought he was about to say testicular torsion
I vote for daily release in
really? what a twist
I've seen videos from that person before... I'm not just pulling that from no where.
x2

#animation #cartoon #funny #wizard #harrypotter #punkeydoodles
#dnd #animation #cartoon #dndmemes #funny #darksouls #wizard #eldenring #lotr
daily torsion in
that spell is prohibited
Says who? Some big wigs in high places within the government? Just they wait. I'll give them the torsion spell 2.0
some may say small sneak peak, I say 113,737 pixels of sneak peakery is pretty cool
Hanging around, gobbling up your trash
Daily Tip In
I'm the Trash Man! I come out, I throw trash all over the- all over the ring! And then I start eatin' garbage! And then I pick up the trash can, and I bash the guy on the head.
omg the trash man cameo in mce2
That's a throw back
damn, adam must have an impressive budget for mce2 if he got danny devito to make a cameo
imagine if it was in time for summer
So, is this homeopathic dirt?
Yes. It only works if you walk on it backwards with your hands on the 3 Tuesday of every 3rd leap year on a solstice of a orange moon
i misread that as homophobic dirt the first time
xD not the only one
why not both?
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Daily check in ✔️
Hi everyone, hope you're doing well 🙂
Daily chicken
Daily eggin
Yearly check in
Bi-annual check in
Generational check in
Millennial check in
what year is it
Idk but I'm still gonna wait
Weekly check in
Eternal Check in
Once in a heat death of the universe check in
Daily minute check in
Daily minute chicken
will mce2 get the pet buff system 🥹
idk maybe
it's definitely something within reason to implement for it if we want to
i am ready for my next 2 week minecraft phase
distant horizons alpha 2.1 experiments, my render distance is at a mere 6 chunks.
still a little unstable to add to the modpack but it actually does work now, which is a nice surprise
big sad we didnt see a MCE2 release trailer at xbox direct
/s
I like how there is just a random floating tree in the background
Minecraft Terrain gen at its finest.
the holy tree
W floating tree
im excited for that quest book 
looks pretty great, stability issues aside
Daily Distant Check In
Will there be chance cubes?
yooo elder scrolls reference
I need it!!!!
🐝 BZZ bzz New imagery received; beginning scan... bzz 🐝
🐝 Scan completed... results disconcerting..
🐝 Results: No signs of surviving Forestry life forms... It appears the plague has destroyed all Bee, Tree and Butterfly life...
🐝 World uninhabitable
🐝 Initate protocol 67, world must be quarantined until made safe for introduction of Forestry species.
🐝 Contact the ambassador from planet Omicron, we'll need a full planetorial cleansing. 🐝
Crampyre
<Brandishes a crab cracker at Crab>
BACK, YE FOUL BEAST!
Crab!
🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀
🐝
That doesn't scare me, I can duel-wield.
🦀👀
Volume Warning
so how does that relate to mce2?
im sleeping to this tonight. i hope ill get prophetic dreams of MCE2
it's a message from beings in another dimension
they are trying to tell us the release date of mce2
unfortunately we do not comprehend their language
It's Slow Scan TV, a 'format' used by radio Hobbyists to send images over radio. The image encoded is what's relavent to MCE2
I think I lost all hope at this point
Gets here when it does, I got plenty of games to keep me occupied til then. trust the process homies
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Daily chicken
4 days into my 2 week minecraft phase, i almost forgot i was waiting for mce2 to drop
until now😔
my entire groups minecraft phase refuses to start again until MCE2
i had that too, until the mind took over
we played ATM8 for a lil bit as an interim
cool flower
what in the world is that ?! i have no idea whats going on here
seems like a boss to me
It's a boss, but I could've sworn the mod it's from is fabric only
Adam must've gotten someone to port it
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/bosses-of-mass-destruction-forge
new 1.16.5 file from 6 days ago, checks out
(this mod is kinda what fabric has in place of ender's cataclysm, with both of them being mods that add complex custom bosses in all 3 dimensions and some structures for said bosses. there are plenty of differences between the two, but they serve the same purpose in packs)
It just didnt feel right though... did it... Lol
but raccoon 😎
yall never playing minecraft again i suppose
3 months into the 'ill be dropping a beta soon'
soon is absolutely subjective, to us soon may be a few weeks, but an eldritch god its a few 10000 years at best ._. im pretty sure adam is somewhere inbetween that
i think an eldritch god could release a beta
it would be so kind to release the beta on the start of july so I can celebrate my birthday playing the greatest modpack of all time
this some kind of boss?
no
yes
yesn't, take it or leave it
can we just play already.....please
just let adam cook.
I think its because he keeps adding content for us to play. 🙂 It will be here soon
it would obviously depend on what and how much gets changed based on feedback received during beta phase, there isn't anyone who can really guarantee it working unless you're from the future and already know what gets changed and doesn't
Yeah ok, so there can be huge differences 
if killing that plant boss doesnt pop an advancement named jennifer dumped me im gonna be sorely disappointed
there is an achievement by Mowzie's Mobs by the same name, even in 1.12
exactly, the legacy must live on
So does Adam have any help with his development? Or is it more of a one man show?
I wouldn't mind having to start fresh because it's more time playing and I always like the beginning of a fresh world
There is a role for MCE dev team sooooo
Thats fantastic but doesn't really answer my question as to whether Adam has people actively helping him with MCE2 development. The last I read, there was a whopping total of "3.5" people on the dev team....and that was from a year ago maybe? I have seen Adam state several times that MCE2 is and has been his passion project......so I wasn't sure if that situation could possibly limit the amount of help he was receiving.....either by choice or not.
IIRC some of that dev team is focusing on MCE and not doing anything with MCE2.
man mc e was one of the first packs i played i cant wait for mce2
Will there be waffle house in the new ver?
if there isnt, you can always build one yourself
The whole game take place within a Waffle House this time, I think Ben put the Nether in a Denny's but not sure
Daily sneak peak in?
Daily sneak chicken
I miss daily crabs
🦀
LETS GO
Been 2 months since the last sneak peak, it must mean we're getting close
this is conspiracy, not to be taken seriously
||or is it||
^^Is that not a sneak peak??^^
I NEED MORE
who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯
time will tell i suppose
That was rhetorical lol, it's been 3 days since the last sneak peak.
is mce2 out yet 
mce2 is just gonna be a cryptid for now, theres the occasional vague sighting but nobody has ever really met it
ill be back in a months time just to ask the same question
it'll be here before star citizen 1.0 releases ||(Q3 2025 tentative release btw)||
cat walks up and stares at you flatly in your imagination
the yippee cat gif flashes upon your mind
thank you
well not entirely true...
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I hope mce2 does even more stuff with tinkers I thoroughly enjoyed the progression of each planet and dimension to find more materials to make cool stuff
yes i agree i love my bees and creating massive bee factories out of alvearies
So glad to have crab back
Can't wait to make trains and transport my endless ores from mining
sadly that expansion of Create doesn't go back to 1.16, I think

if the forge port of sodium can get ported to 1.7.10 then there is always hope
someone just needs to pay for it
how much do you think it would cost roughly?
No idea, but most likely not cheap
I really don't understand the hype behind create...really boring mod imo
very high degree of polish and it fits into a minecraft+ environment
its what a lot of people dreamt redstone was
so its hype is based around that imo
part of its appeal is that it can make some really cool looking setups, there's a reason the mod has a ton of decorative blocks ontop of all the functional stuff
Contraptions are also a big part of it, at least for me
Being able to have blocks move and rotate smoothly while maintaining collision and (some) function is crazy
early game fully automated farm ezpz
and it looks funny
watching the big ol arms swing around at mach 30
fair
still, personally not my cup of tea 
i love create (my skin is create themed)
Is there any eta for the pack? Or just waiting?
I know that the next version of Thaumcraft was in the make pretty much in the same time, is it gonna come included in mce2 too?
if it somehow gets backported, maybe it'll show up, but last i knew, thaumcraft 7 is gonna end up on whatever the most recent minecraft version is when it's ready
I see, an mc2 is gonna be on 1.20 or?
1.16.5
that was the prime version when development began
It kinda still is. I haven't seen the recent versions become the new "it" version.
I live for create mod it's so cool I think about my little contraptions every day
a lot mod developers are now rushing to release to whatever the newest minecraft version is currently, which isn't exactly a bad thing except they often will only push updates to those newest versions and abandon older minecraft versions like 1.16
I imagine it is partly because 1.18 mods are roughly half as popular as 1.19 mods and 1.19 mods are roughly half as popular as 1.20 mods (at least it appears that way when looking at the create mod's downloads)
I think part of it is that the newest versions don't really add all that much so most mod makers don't have to do much more than update the version flag.
maybe too unrelated
I'm starting to think the joke of every time someone asked when, it was actually delayed by a day
this probably
since cobblemon and pixelmon focuses on Pokemon entities and not exploring/fighting bosses the typical MC way
yeah definitely not gonna happen
you could certainly try putting it ontop, but uh that sounds like it might have problems
why
only kinda. A true kitchen sink is everything thrown in haphazardly. MCE2 seems like it is going to have somewhat of a direction with the bosses and progression
it doesnt fit in nwith anything else tho
might be a kitcheen sink but still has mods that make a thematic sense overall
and pokemon is a theme itself
doesnt really blend with anything else
just because it's kitchen sink doesn't mean you can throw anything in it
same way Adam would never put projectE in mce
Cobblemon is a thing that you kinda have to design the pack around
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Please sneak peak soon
Your not high enough level in the server to do that. You need to be level 9 or have the rank as "regular"
Daily check in
Daily chicken
if we were patient and didnt constantly "check in" maybe it would be out by now
Unlikely, but it would be less annoying to the dev team
i see the logic in that statement
adam has said before how demotivating and annoying all the eta begging spam and check in memes get so yeah
on top, burn out can be a massive hurdle to overcome
I hope tomorrows chicken is a silkie
burn out can be just brutal
I thought the checkin meme started when the picture of a MCE2 daily check in system was posted?
what you gonna do about it
Daily impatience in
hopefully wait for the day you get muted 🙂
I can hazard a guess what form that will take.
https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-19-2018/GURiik.gif
this is adam's motivation and eta askers
Adam is a chef, I'm just waiting for that man to cook me the finest modpack for me and my friends to play for a month or two before we all get weirdly busy and stop playing

I do have one advantage in the wait for MCE2: Final Fantasy 14 just dropped a new expansion a couple of days ago.
chi
Never
Daily mute in

Adam knows we loves his work and the other people that are making this modpack, i'll daily check until the modpack comes in, but no need to rush
several
interesting
how about daily checking in without saying you’re checking in
daily [ ]
If you're posting the check in, it's not silent.
Daily chicken
buzz 🐝
Daily crabbin
when is mce2 coming to terraria? is the real question
McEternal to cubeworld?
McDoomEternal
mce2 in gmod when?
I'd play that
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MCE Team Fortress 2 port soon?
Daily when mce2 in
mce2 is fake imo
there is a hidden timer nobody knows about
release will be at || <t:1791587800> ||
There is a reason for that specific date
its exactly 2494 days after MCE 1.0 release and the exact time it needs to fill a Draconic Power Orb T8 to max with max int I/O
i figured you out Adam 
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How you like my conspiracy maths for the release ?
personally im of the opinion that there will be a hidden stealth launch on halloween
mce2 is the friends we made on our journeys
Mce2 is the worldwide patience test
do you guys not have access yet? i've been playing it for months
I've only got MC3
mce2 is a hoax
everyone should know that by now
all the sneek peaks are AI generated
I’m sure this’ll come out when GTA 7 does
What mod is that it looks awesome
Isnt that the guy from poland?
Its been a while from last sneak peek
I like letting Adam cook, and I really enjoy being patient about it too 
sishypus go back to carrying ur rock
Not carrying, rolling
this dude appeared all day yesterday on my for you page out of nowhere...
I love him
Anymore sneak peek recently?
touch grass
seriously, find something better to do with your life than bothering Adam every day
Excited to see any sneak leaks when they come
How about people stop pretending like Adam is completely innocent of the constant update requests? Release time was estimated, and passed, and estimated and passed. On top of that everyone eager to play were completely teased with that whole beta interest nonsense. Everyone gets it, it's "his" project and he can do it as he pleases.. but statements were made, expectations were created and not met, that comes with consequences, and in this circumstance, they could hardly be seen as negative consequences.. Oh nooo.... Constant daily interaction in your community from anticipation of your next creation?!? Must be so bothersome. Next time don't get peoples hopes up just to turn around and completely disregard them. " could simply decide to never release the modpack if I wanted. I don't know how people can be so entitled about free content " What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say.
this is how you convince people to stop working on passion projects. if you don't like it, feel free to leave
you're welcome to leave and not be here 🙂 its clear you're easily bothered and impatient
you have all rights to leave and stop crying about MCE2 . All Good things come to those who wait.
Yeah people bugging him may be annoying but it's his fault he made a mod pack so good people need more 😅
Daily bothering in
Points for honesty
Well said....couldn't agree more
No Adam has a life outside of mce2, and release dates are estimated not set in stone. The point of this channel is to discuss sneak peaks not stress him out further
I'm going to continue working on MCE2+ whatever else I want to work on but I'm going to interact with the community less because it is without a doubt the most draining part of working on a semi-popular internet project. This is no one individual person's fault, it's just something that's been building up.
Between the demands and the DM's it feels like something I really didn't sign up for , I just want to make stuff.
Everyone who is kind and passionate about the stuff I make , thank you , you give me energy.
I'm gonna continue to pose sneak peeks in the official chat and will try to post something this weekend, until then I'll be enjoying my weekend and I hope you all do too!
don't feel pressured, you can always mute the community if you need to
That’s understandable, take your time. Love the stuff you do
That's a good idea , I think I'll be more productive
grab a beer and chill out
I do not understand why people feel so entitled. We are not owed anything. Adam isn't being paid - he has a donation site, but has said plenty that it is only to support him and not MCE.
MCE2 has always been tentative and that is why they avoid ETAs. Continuing to poke and prod Adam will not get it done quicker. Go play another mod pack or game. There's plenty out there that'll satisfy your wants.
Definitely take care of your mental health, I can't imagine the amount of pressure that is on you
Not sure what you mean by "no".....I merely stated that I agreed with the persons post. If the point of this channel is strictly to discuss sneak peaks then 90% of the activity in here should not exist. That said, its kind of hard to discuss sneak peaks or updates regarding the development of MCE2 when there aren't any.
I meant to reply to the post you replied to
oh gotchu....all good
Been waiting for mce 2 for nearly 4 years now. Imma be an old man by the time it releases.
This how overnight celebrities gotta feel too
We all need to remember, he's not making it for us, he's making it for everyone to enjoy because he wants to
Just like if he wanted to, he could scrap it and say screw you all; he owes us nothing
At this point, there should be a 3 strike and banned rule for asking ETA, it's in the FAQ, and it's common knowledge at this point it'll be done when it's done. I've said maybe three things this year so far but check in almost daily, just do a silent check in people no need to announce it every time, confirming your existence won't make it happen any faster
I think it's pretty clear that confirming your existence actually makes adam work slower
like yeah I get it you've been teased about this for literal years at this point and the communication on work progress could certainly be better, but also it's not like Adam is part of some game studio getting paid a wage or being funded to specifically make mce2 so he doesn't owe anyone anything either it's a passion project at the end of the day
id much rather him take his sweet time to care for the modpack than to rush something.
Whatever we say it's his modpack, his work, his decision. Whatever will happen will happen
a well loved product is always better than a rushed product take your time Adam 🫶🏻 we will love whatever you give us
I've been stalking this server for a while and what I've found is that while support goes much further than requests or demands, I think that people being frustrated with the length of the development is completely natural and should absolutely not go punished (unless its something spammy like a daily check-in. That's just annoying). At the same time, I think it is also completely understandable to be tired of the community's constant excitement, anticipation, and eagerness. That is Adam's problem to solve if he is passionate about the game and wants to maintain its development as public (which is his choice).
Whatever measures Adam and his team make to get the game (and themselves) out in one peace, should be supported with equal respect and anticipation.
Granted, while I don't think users unaware of the 'please don't ask about the date rule should be punished, it wouldn't hurt for something like a bot that auto-responds, correcting the behavior.
Regarding the faulty release teasers, it's completely reasonable in my eyes. If you're making a game with a lot of people anticipating it, you'd naturally want to push it out as fast as you can with as high quality as you can. If Adam said "It's coming out soon!" and took another year that means it clearly wasn't up to quality. To me that screams that he cares about the project, and doesn't want to see his art released prematurely.
Patience is required from both the community and the team to get something like this out, and It's best to try and not lose our patience with eachother, because we all want the same thing.
I agree with the Silly Goose here 
same
teases a project
community asks about the progress
"I don't owe any of you anything" "I could just stop if I felt like it"
it surely is a mystery why there's such a friction here
theres a difference from asking, and DMing constantly spamming chats with check ins
have you read this thread at all?
occasional questions about progress are fine
...but that's not what was being talked about
there's a big difference between "hey, how's the project going?" and "so when is it gonna be finished? huh? i want a time. i want to know when you'll finish it. i'm gonna keep checking in day after day until it's finished."
Bruh i feel like it was mostly ppl coming in here to meme about it, which is fun and not serious. The pplasking fr I always figured were just kids w/ nothing better to do, which was always kinda funny fun to me
Got waaaay to srs in here, honestly it was just 1 person who started all this and that 1 person is one of tens of thousands, who just happened to choe to voice his poor attitude. Definitely not indicative of any majority or crowd, nor reflective on the appreciation there will be by many many more on release
Is it gonna be unacceptable to go back to the way things were now orrr? 😬😞
If other people genuinely notice consistent bad attitude or whatever from the same few people and it gets really bad in here, I'll start by muting those few, but for now it's just complainers being complainers so just try to ignore them from now on instead of giving them attention for it
It's good to have conversation or posing actual constructive criticism/feedback, but just voicing complaints about missing non-existent deadlines and being mad about not following through or not posting more updates and trying to justify those complaints isn't the greatest look
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Valid point but some people fail to consider one man's meme is another man's 5,000th time being subjected to it
true
Lets say, hypothetically, that there are 36649 people in this discord server, and that only 1% of people are annoying eta spammers. That's still ~360 people spamming messages/dms to you, which for one person would be overwhelmingly annoying. There goes any desire to do anything having to do with them 
Multiverse daily check in
Idk what you guys are complaining about
mc eternal 4 is lit
It's fun chatting with my ai minecraft villager gf
Brb
Jarvis, queue the embed fail
True asf, good perspective to paint
Once in a blood moon checkup (that means this will never happen again) (I don't keep track of lunar events) (there are 17 human-sized spiders trying to break through my door) (I'm going to get myself banned for saying this)
Absolutely nothing wrong with taking the time to both keep your mental sanity while also ensuring your product is essentially “baked” rather than undercooked. When the modpack does come out, I’m sure it’ll be a banger.
That being said, I do, however, feel that communication/updates could be more frequent. I’m not saying every week, but enough to know that there is work being done in the project. I feel like this would satiate the “mob” who are getting agitated and also reassure the community that work is, in fact, being done.
You don’t have to tell me that work is being done, because I know that, but I’m it feels like there’s a sect of the community that doesn’t understand that lack of updates does not equate to the project being abandoned. Still, that doesn’t mean they are incorrect in pointing out the lack of communication.
I'd just like to discuss something in the sneak peak discussion channel. The last sneak peak is from april and it's a picture of a rat...
The last update we had was literally
'i feel like that I have hit a point where working without community feedback is very slow, so i'll release a beta soon'
and then never release a beta
and people cant even say stuff like
well u said there was gonna be a beta so where is it
this would have been fixed by saying
A- heres the beta
B- sorry guys i said there was gonna be a beta soon but for X Y Z reasons its not coming soon anymore
when you have the foggiest of communications people get mad, thats with everything
it just feels like its at a point that if it doesnt attend to our expectations it'll crush the dev's soul and so he doesnt release it lmao
a song of ice and fire sort of thing
if u say ur gonna release a very anticipated sequel to a really good project soon, and then dont, what is the natural reaction of people
this channel needs a hard reset lol
Adam is a guy, this is for Minecraft, you called someone Sisyphusian because they said they were being patient, what even kind of schisming is happening rn
This channel is for discussions. Also unlike our "sisyphean" desires, Adam just built different.
this has been discussed before, but he never said he would release a beta at all, just asked if people would prefer a beta or not.
also development is not a straight line (it's more of a circle tbh), things have probably changed, which complicates the situation.
Ask the people who support and want your project what they want
they massively vote for one option
absolutely ignore their wish
and u cant say thats just bad management?
never even gave an update
All i know is that Adam makes a ton of custom content and doesnt just slap 500 mods together , he also works on a lot of his own stuff mostly alone from what i can tell in the free time he can muster when he doesnt have important stuff to do
i imagine like 4 hours a week where he has time to do stuff on the pack
there are 4 or 5 custom mods in the pack as well, last time I checked
And those take their time to be Devved out
We have seen the Slime Boss fight , we can vaguely assume what adam is cooking
dude just drop it. i understand the frustration (i am impatient as hell, thats just me
) but this isnt the way to go about it. also just remember that this is a small team, not a whole ass game developing studio or some shit. this team also does it voluntarily, they aren't getting paid to do it
a few months ago i was in a mc phase, but was bored with the modpacks and really wanted something fresh. i thought of mce2 and got frustrated and kinda mad cause ive been waiting a long time. but in those moments i remember those things above, and then i appreciate adam and the team for what they do, and for their commitment to it
Not a "whole ass game developing studio" cause they aint developing a "whole ass game". Duhh
ik but the community treats the modpack like its a game, at least it feels like it
the thing i do is forget about it's existence so i can go "wtf" when it shows up randomly
works for every thing i am waiting for
I'm eager to play MCE2, and the development and updates (or rather lack there of) are so dreadfully slow.
Still, no reason to be dreadful towards Adam or other devs.
always remember this famous quote kids;
"Be patient young hobbitses" ~Master Shifu, Avengers: A new hope.
the only issue i have is that the communication could be better
I’m honestly just glad that Adam wants to release a fleshed out game unlike 99% of the games industry right now. Keep strong and even if people a complaining it’s just cause they need another pack like MCE and that take time! Stay strong
Keep it strong and Adam on
(once in a blue moon chatter here) If you want confirmation on his progress, just check his github activity 🤷♂️ he made 186+ contributions in private repositories in june, which is probably mce2 or other mod(packs). Or his curseforge mods, theres literally a mod with the description "a fork of wings for the modpacks MCE2" from 24th feb. you can look all of this up in like 2min..
I dont think that roasting adam is ok, its jsut that people asking when its gonna release should have some awnser in some sense, since it was implied we would get a beta soon
DMing him isnt ok either
but having 0 communication after having a vote for beta be 2100 vs 100 votes is bad managament, unarguably
if we werent going to get a beta soon then why have the vote ? and if we were going to but something happened, why not tell us
its been 5 months of 0 big updates
agreed
There's was no statements of the beta coming out soon. It was more to gauge people's interest. There was no promise or even a release window for said beta
you can say that as much as you want, people still won't read it properly
yes it is frustrating to not have a beta come out anytime soon, but that wasn't what Adam was asking so there's 0 reason for discussion
where does it say BeTa OUt SooN!!!!!?
Heavy glazing going on in here
So from looking at his github page, there has been recent activity of wanting to add the Cobblemon mod. Interesting
would be fun, even some opportunities for some fakemon/ MCE2 variants
the cobblemon stuff is a separate project
that is magnitudes less secretive than MCE2, and also much smaller
"The worst she can say is no" 💀
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Someone with access to editing the FAQ should change the MCE2 release date thing though here: #📗-faq message
Not saying people will ready it, but also would help to not have it say 2023
Adam would have to change it, users cannot edit other users' messages
to be fair, this part does kinda imply that it would be somewhat soon
i can see why people assumed the beta would be soon
making expectations out of nothing, then getting angry when those expectations aren't met - literally every community ever
Saying that they are out of nothing is WILDLY inaccurate.
Idk, but, this mood looks cool, kinda gives a cartoon style for animations when dragging items, just cool feature
"out of nothing"
there's constructive criticism.
then there's hypocracy.'
I don't want to act like the 🤓 here but (sorry to all the adam fanboys) adam should have seen the commotion coming with hinting towards something that normal users would be able to play.
The cold hard truth is that if you cannot control your community, you break down (just see adams last messages) and hide from your community you raised. It's like raising a bull. You have to tame it until it's too late.
the time for suggestions has LONG since passed. Like i said that would be a offtopic discussion. This channel is meant to discuss sneakpeaks and mild speculation
Oh damn, it's only available for 1.20.1
It's inevitable what would happen, the Modpack became famous and people are eager to play the new version, since the topic was opened to share the development progress, people have become more impatient, i believe @flint egret is doing a fantastic job, i understand that, sometimes it's exhausting to be in charge all the time, but I would see this as an incentive to continue, I'm also very excited to play, but I'll settle for the games that I still have to complete
Ngl guys, Frog. 
or you could do what a lot of OSS devs do, and just ghost the community, which is something everyone would probably like to avoid - aka no MCE2 ever
silksong flashbacks
While I understand the meaning behind the ping to Adam, please refrain from pinging him, when it's not needed. Especially when he's offline. I know all ya'll want mce2 yesterday, but Adam also have a life outside of discord (not like me, who basically lives here)
I know for a fact, I want mce2 to be a passion, love crafted modpack, not a rushed product that hangs by the nails because a small group in the community needs their "fix" now.
Project can take another 5 years, and that's okay with me. I'll find other things to keep me occupied till then.
I know when it does release, I want to feel the energy and compassion the devs put into it, not spend the first weeks complaining about "why isn't this done", or "this is janky"
To Adam and all those working on development alongside Adam - ❤️ Keep kicking ass.
Monthly check in (no pressure) just like to post here once in a while + positive reinforcement: U got this guysssss
i was wondering why the check-ins were annoying bc i just viewed it as people saying “hey im still here waiting & i will keep waiting as long as i need to!” but when someone said the thing ab one person seeing that meme 20384729 times it def put it into perspective. dev team yall rock & keep doing what yall wanna do mce2 or not 🫶
Will mce2 have Minecraft?
some people some become book writers at this point, it’s almost impressive

Why do a vote for something that is known to be heavily anticipated if you arent gonna give any kind of update ever
and never give an update if you are planning on releasing it any time soon or are not planning on releasing any time soon
the only reason people keep doing daily check ins and everything that comes with that is because we havent had any legit update whatsoever in the past 6 months,a nd the last one we had was literally a vote where adam said 'i am content with what i have done and i would like community feedback' and then people voted massively on having a beta
if u dont like ur community asking for a release then dont HEAVILY IMPLY that said release is coming soon, and then go absolute blackout on communications
that is simply bad management
if we had a statement saying
hey guys i dont think a beta will happen before july
no one would be doing daily check ins
and etc
people would come here
ask about mce2
get awnsered 'not until august at least'
then come back by august
^
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So I feel like some people may have missed where the daily checkin meme originated
#1143742498808799232 message
I can see where it would could be seen as people checking in to see the status of the mod pack if you don't know where it came from
And I am still on team "Give Condizion his own ingame easter egg" if he does check in every day till it releases
you could also just "not care" and move on with life. At some point that excitement and hype has gotta die down for an individual, right? I don't know the reasoning behind all of it and I don't care; as long as Adam is doing good and doesn't overwork or stress himself out I am fine with waiting (seriously though, it's summertime, get your bum outside)
((I am not waiting btw, there are enough packs to play, games to play, things you do whatever you wanna call it. It is not like you are waiting for a call from somebody you just dated so people really need to take it less serious))
I'm behind this. Guys, it's summer, go touch some grass, go get a summer job, go do something with your lives instead of complaining in this chat about a game. If you want the modpack so badly, make it yourself.
These past few days have been nothing but people arguing and complaining about all of it and it's so childish. I mean seriously is it that hard to just find something else to play until Adam is done? I promise it's not that hard to wait for a minecraft modpack.
But I also back this up bc bro is CONSISTENT
literally all it would take to fix this would be an announcement from adam about how progress is going
"about X% of the way done, might be another year before full release" and people would stop asking
No it would not, as you can tell people are impatient and will not look for the pinned or posted release date, (as you can tell by them CLEARLY not reading the rules) so no, it would not help very much. Especially if it's further than most people anticipate.
#1143742498808799232 message let me also link this.
#1143742498808799232 message and this.
I’ve been trying to keep up with the stuff going on with development but I don’t get on a lot and came after most stuff was finalized but had there been something that gave a description of how MCE2 was going to look?
Obviously I’m assuming similar to MCE but I know with the Jump to 1.16 mods will likely change. Has there been any thing about like just updating the older mods and adding more thematically relevant stuff or using mostly different mods but similar structure to MCE to give it a more unique feel? (Or something similar to this) I’ve been intrigued by the sneak peaks so far but definitely curious about how they will mesh and work together since it’s one of the reasons I loved MCE so much.
I think you'd probably have to look deep in chats but I believe it's going to be a continuation to a Whimsical MCE2 with everything I've seen
I'll do some digging sometime
Frog is good, let's just talk about frogs from now on. Or rats, either works.
Check in everyday
i check at morning
at work
at my breakfast
even before i sleep
i'm good at my checks
We know Condizion, and we love you for it
Maybe people would talk about the sneakpeaks if there were some 
Froge?

I only love you
It's so crazy checking the chat like one or twice a week and everytime I'm seeing the same "check in vs leave it be arguments"
I hope everyone has a good day
🤑
I suppose that can be allowed as well
Now I'm thinking of the Doge meme but it's a frog instead.
except these are 8 months before a beta vote but aight
idk why saying 'dont tease your community of a direction you wont take' is such a hot take here
adam is 'just a guy' but he isnt a child, people can point out he made a mistake and it can be constructive criticism
idk why people get so mad about that
Probably because I didn't ask for it but go off I guess
❤️ Adam it will happen when it happens and not a moment before. Thanks for a all the rad work.
The timing of that rule being made being 8 months before the vote doesn't mean that for some odd reason the rule goes out the window so I don't really get your point.
And him making a poll or asking for an opinion shouldn't be taken as him teasing the community, if people are getting overly hyped but that is no fault of Adams. He should be allowed to ask for input without a bunch of people jumping on his case for something that was never promised. He is allowed to change his mind. There is no point if constantly debating this topic.
Go outside and touch some grass or something. This has been hashed out for what seems like literal years now, let the man cook and when or if he releases the pack we will all have something awesome to play.
UNTILL THEN, we should seriously just leave this channel to the sneak peaks and memes
Absolute trash response, what are you 5? Do rules just stop after some time for you? Grow up. Find something to do with yourself. There is literally NO reason to open discord to talk negatively about someone who has made something for you that you can't even make yourself, hence why you're here complaining about it. Be better than that.
Having a vote about the future beta did clearly cause some confusion and overreactions but I think the bigger problem is that there used to be like 3 posts per month in the sneak peak channel and as of now it's been dead for almost 3 months. A lot of false assumptions to be made from of this.
some people seem to be deprived of touch so that sounds like a good idea
with consent first ofc

Bro w h a t
Some entitled people with awful takes in here holy cow
The kinds I see in comments and go "how could someone possibly say that or feel that way"
Legit 0 self awareness. Shame on anyone reflecting opinions that Adam did any kind of wrong. He doesn't owe anyone anything. The entire pack and server exist solely because he happened to have fun doing something and shared it
this channel shit talking the devs when Adam doesn't follow up on a hypothetical poll is worse than how Twitter reacts to seeing Frank Ocean biking in public
Right? This ain't Bungie or Bioware
There's not even an LLC
It's just a hobby we're lucky that was shared with us
So imma simp and say I appreciate you Adam, that poll was not a bungle at all, you had a cool idea then scrapped it as is your right, oh well, life goes on
Much love
Could, or rather should (tto prevent this entire debacle to begin with) let people know he scrapped it tho.
Lack of communication for months is just bad.
Still doesn't give people a reason to insult Adam but i get the frustration, communication is key in long running projects like this and seeing how there used to be fairly regular teases and updates and then after the poll just.... nothing pretty much outa nowhere.
Yea, that's bad.
That is if it's even scrapped, it might also be delayed a whole bunch. Still could do with an update of any kind
Even if it's just "Project still being worked on, here's a cool screenshot, progress going well, cya"
Nah, 0 excuse. It's a hobby project, nothin is owed. You confuse this whole situation with something like an indie dev studio or higher level of content creator
Life comes first. It's hard to care about the optics of running a community when I've got real life stuff consuming a lot of my time and energy. I understand the frustration but it's also important to recognise that all of these "it's bad management" / "communication is poor" critiques are unhelpful even if true because I am a human with human problems so I'm not going to be as efficient I could be. Especially when it comes to MCE2, which is a project I have dumped thousands of hours and an endless amount of money into , it hasn't made me anything.
Nothing is cancelled, it's just not finished
It's like this. Ever had a favorite fan fiction, blog, or comic you've followed? If you have, then you've probably been on what's called an indefinite hiatus before at some point where the exact same scenario is occurring. It's someone's hobby. They do it for some reason other than money. The author/artist may or may not post updates. At the end of the day, you're hype for that thing you enjoy but ultimately nothing was gained or lost on your part if the author just isn't able to continue the series for X amount of time.
The poll was just an "official" spitball. What comes of it is STILL just something from a guy working on a hobby. He doesn't owe anyone anything, and everyone else hasn't lost anything outside of a 30 second time block if a read and half a kcal spent on a click lol
The Poll may very well be seen as a teaser.
anyways, ofcourse i understand tthere are personal things and Adam isn't obligated to anything.
However, don't act suprised when people react to a teaser and don't hear anything from it for months
Therefore, any disappointment on anyone's behalf should be internalized and processed within, not in a place where vibes will be thrown off
Ultimately it's an individual's own job to manage their own expectations
Hmmm no, heavily dissagree with that, this is the sneak-peak discussion.
A lack thereof will therefor also be discussed here.
discussing it doesn't mean harrasing or insulting Adam tho
For sho. Or insinuating by any means that anything is unfulfilled in any circumstance
The fact this channel existed was just a kindness
I ate every single crumb up like anyone else but at the end of the day when it was a month and a half between those crumbs I didnt become a feral starving beast
Same with the beta
What beta
You're funny 😂
lol, thanks i gues xD
Patience is key
yes, but most people on here are teens i'm guessing and they have anything but patience since the world is built around instant responses these days.
But that is a much too serious topic to discuss here 😛
Then we ignore them, their attention spans are usually that of a squirrel, so if we just pay no attention they will eventually stop
yea, that's been tried, and you can ignore one, or two, three, five, ten, 50, maybe hundreds, there will always be more that will ask The Question
Yea fr, I now understand that things have been indefinitely spoiled and soured, no more crumbs 😔
Understandably so
Luckily, as an adult I have this awful supercursepower where I work so much that when something I like comes out, I can be nothing but excited because to me, there was no time where I was ever "waiting" for that thing
I've just been surviving
The only benefit to being grown 🤪
It's also why I haven't published my Patreon yet despite it being ready to launch for some time now because I know if it's generating monthly revenue people will have expectations and I'm not able to meet those expectations yet.
Honestly that is very relatable 
its ready to launch?????????
He meant the Patreon is ready to launch
And Adam you don't owe anyone on here anything so please just take you time man, honestly most of us all have our own lives as well, the people really complaining are a loud small minority. I mean personally even if the pack were to launch right this second I probably would have enough time to download it and then time to play it in a few days or a week because of work 😅
I mean you may owe Condizion an easter egg on the daily check-in screen for his consistent daily check ins since you teased it 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
I love you man, let's check in some day

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Whelp, you pinged Adam, there goes your shout out
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It's honestly wild checking in here every once and a while to see people go off about how it's not out yet or the lack of teasers
like, I've been waiting for Witchbrook since it was teased in 2016, a game that hasn't had a new teaser in years. You have Silksong which has been announced but will likely not be released for another few years. There's Mewgenics, a game by a very prominent game dev that was announced in 2012 that will maybe be released this year. And if you want something in the same realm as MCE, you have Hytale, made by the same people who run the Hypixel servers, that was announced in 2018 which has only had dev updates once or twice a year since 2020.
and the most important thing to realize is the fact that these games have actual funding and/or backing from publishers and will cost money to play.
I feel like the fact that this modpack is free is what makes people get even more toxic... why people gotta act so entitled to something they haven't and wont pay for...
I'm a Star Citizen enjoyer lol, a game that's perpetually in development and been called a scam for 13 years of alpha.
I didn't mention star citizen cas ya'll have financial investments in that game...
lord knows some of ya'll have put enough to buy a house or two into that game...
nah I've only spent like maybe $90, though the bare minimum is $40
also like it is, at least on a technicality, an interactable product
like I've been waiting for SC for such an unbelievably long time that the fact of whining about something free like MCE2 is just unreal lol.
literally though...
I had been following the development of Witchbrook since it was first announced. Do I wish there was an update, yes. But I'm not going to go into their discord and bug them about it. I may want to play it but it's not like I have to never touch a game again until it comes out
Aww man, I'm saving some to buy this game
Okay but let's give some praise for Adam feeling well enough to respond to these messages and criticism, we're proud of you Adam. You are your #1 priority! 
If it were me, I wouldn't answer anything, I sleep
Tell me someone who gets stressed in their sleep
Aaah, daily sleep in 😴
Such a disney princess answer, classic Condizion
while wating for the modpack, i started lo learn how to create mods 🙂
what you create?
bro gonna make mce2 before mce2 releases 😨
That's awesome man! Do you enjoy learning?
if we all spent time learning how to mod instead of asking when mce2 is coming out maybe we could help adam release earlier
There is no set date when MCE 2 is coming out. You have delayed it by another 24 hours.
no you ivan
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yes, i am learning, lots of things, now i know how much work is to create a mod and then you have to maintain it
i want to make something like extra utilities 2(i will learn how it works), and my own stuff(i want a sort items in chests based on mods, maybe a UI or a chest where you dump items based mod items.)
sound interesting
i am proud to say that i can export now the mod and have 4 items that don't do anything :))
just test it to see if i can add it to any modpack and it works ❤️ little steps all the way 🙂
Daily moddin
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Daily chicken 🍽️
what if you prefer some other kinda meat
sus
Personally I'm a porkchop fan
what about golden carrots?
Daily frog leg?
Daily leggin
Daily sea food pasta
GTA VI release before MC Eternal 2? 
I think so
you’ve gotta be the most dedicated person to the daily/weekly check ins for this chat
respect
Daily peperoni pizza, also this person is more consistent than me XD
Condizion legend
imagine fresh animations being compatible with all mod mobs
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Yeah u must not check in much man. @pastel atlas has been first and most dedicated here.
BUT, they are on the same team 
i’m ngl, i thought @pastel atlas was multiple people, that’s my bad. 💀
I love u we all have a bit of him in us
i think i’d seen your name so much, i figured you were multiple people
Condizionverse
He is the person we all aspire to be
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what about the lurkers who check in without saying anything?
What about them
i dont know? the silent support?
Daily Karen
We are watching

What do u want a pat on the back lmao? Have some integrity 😉
no im sacred of the watcher
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alternatively, bisexual check in
hm
i wonder if it's even possible that #1143742498808799232 reaches the same level of insanity as the communities that go by years with no major updates (tf2 comes to mind) or perhaps we are already insane
if the latter is true, then wow, kinda was in a short time in comparison
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tf2 is out tho
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When’s next sneak peek? 👀
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I only check in here once every few months, any news around eta? or still just its ready when its ready could be tomorrow could be 5 years
there is no beta
It's come to my attention the majority of the public are some pretty sad folks tbh. Yall really pull the wind out of the sails aboard the s.s. faith in humanity sometimes.
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Real.
its a released game
yeah, i know that, i mean that it doesn't get any major updates (new actual major content)
what they are getting rn are updates just full of workshop items
im surprised it gets any update tbh
cosmetics so that they can gamble more and maps that either play poorly or play incredibly well i guess
but thats how valve does stuff generally tho
cs gets that same kind of update
even dota
i mean, it didn't get any kind of updates at all for 7 years i think
if we gonna continue talking it is better we go to #✨-off-topic
sure
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If there are unicorns in mce2 I will be so happy
where can I donate to Adam
Click on his profile. He has a link there
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Why not
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