Hello!
my laptop is overheating while using turbo boost so i disabled it with throttlestop
is that safe?
my performance also dropped but i think thats normal
is there a way to use turbo boost and not overheat?
(i got a msi gf63 12ve thin)
#Laptop overheating without disabling turbo boost(msi gf63 12ve thin)
restive cipher
i have had this laptop for like 9 months and i dont think it should overheat that much yk
Feel free to ping me
still sphinx
Hello!
my laptop is overheating while using turbo boost so i disabled it with th...
What are you using to tell what the temperatures are or is it a matter of the device itself getting really hot?
restive cipher
What are you using to tell what the temperatures are or is it a matter of the de...
device getting really hot, throttle stop and msi center
on roblox max settings i got to max 98C
with turbo boost on(the intel cpu one)
it was averaging 85 to 98 max
still sphinx
device getting really hot, throttle stop and msi center
This might not end up being necessary, but I would be curious to see how the clock speeds either decrease or stay steady over time.
Have you opened up the back to remove any dust build up on the fans and inside the heat sink?
If you end up having to remove the cooler from the laptop to clean it properly then you will want to have extra thermal paste to repaste it (which also could potentially help).
Would you be willing to run a Time Spy benchmark with CPUID HWMonitor running, and video record the whole thing?
If you have HWMonitor open you will want to minimize all parts that aren’t CPU and GPU and expand the individual CPU core temps to look like the photos.
restive cipher
This might not end up being necessary, but I would be curious to see how the clo...
in the first place
i cannot open my laptop at all
because of the factory seal
it will probably void my warranty
restive cipher
This might not end up being necessary, but I would be curious to see how the clo...
and if you teach me how to use time spy sure
i can share screen you if needed
still sphinx
i can share screen you if needed
Not share screen, just record a video of your screen to show the benchmark running and have both HWMonitor and that running.
restive cipher
where can i install the app from?
still sphinx
it will probably void my warranty
I understand what you are saying but opening up your laptop shouldn’t void any warranty because most laptops have expandable storage and can have their RAM upgraded. I do not know what area you live in but maybe check with MSI support to see what your options are and see if they can give you something in writing if you are concerned about it.
still sphinx
device getting really hot, throttle stop and msi center
While this is running I would close other apps, including MSI Center.
restive cipher
alright
restive cipher
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html
should i install this too?
still sphinx
I am recommending it, since it gives a lot of info about your system by having access to basically every sensor your device has.
restive cipher
hw monitor does not owrk on my pc
still sphinx
hw monitor does not owrk on my pc
That is what pops up when you hit install from the download?
still sphinx
When i click on the actual app
What version of Windows are you running?
restive cipher
Like the update version or just windows 10
still sphinx
Like the update version or just windows 10
Windows 10 is what I meant, thank you. Try a system restart and try again.
restive cipher
Alright
Still the same
@still sphinx
Also what should i use to record the time spy benchmark
still sphinx
Okay, let’s forget about that, weird that it won’t open but I don’t want to spend a bunch of time diagnosing that. You can uninstall HWMonitor.
restive cipher
Okay, let’s forget about that, weird that it won’t open but I don’t want to spen...
Okk
still sphinx
Also what should i use to record the time spy benchmark
You don’t have to any longer, I would have preferred having a video showing the stats, but we can get a look at some of that stuff with the bench mark.
Go ahead and run Time Spy with other apps closed and post the results and scroll down to get screenshots of all the charts.
restive cipher
Ok i pressed on the run button
still sphinx
You will end up wanting to post the score and the detailed results like that.
still sphinx
It says it was cancelled, did you stop the run?
restive cipher
totally not
i didnt even touch the pc
while that was happening
should i redo it
?
still sphinx
Yes, there should be multiple different parts of the test, like there it was Graphics Test 1.
restive cipher
alright i will redo
still sphinx
alright i will redo
Might be because it being a demo.
still sphinx
Much better, see all those sections at the bottom showing different parts of the test.
restive cipher
Much better, see all those sections at the bottom showing different parts of the...
so now what?
still sphinx
so now what?
What you want to look for is temperatures and the clock speeds for CPU and GPU. I think it is very weird that it is saying your CPU speed was perfectly consistent that entire time. Is your laptop plugged into power right now?
restive cipher
What you want to look for is temperatures and the clock speeds for CPU and GPU. ...
yeah it is plugged in
restive cipher
What you want to look for is temperatures and the clock speeds for CPU and GPU. ...
and what do i do with that temp and clock speeds
still sphinx
and what do i do with that temp and clock speeds
What I was looking for are drops in the speed if it was getting too hot. Sure, the temps are probably running at their max, but that is basically how laptops work. If a GPU is supposed to run at 1700 mhz and at 85c, then that is fine. The issues come when it is at 85c but the clocks either slowly or sharply drop.
That would mean the laptop cannot cool itself to run at its normal speeds, and to stop it from killing itself it slows down, but in a normally functioning system the slower the clocks the cooler the temps.
restive cipher
so basically u think its normal?
still sphinx
In your system I am not seeing any obvious issue. The GPU clock speeds were stable, and running at what I would presume to be their proper speeds.
restive cipher
or did i understand it wrong
restive cipher
In your system I am not seeing any obvious issue. The GPU clock speeds were stab...
i mean i am still getting 98 C on roblox so thats fucked up
max ofc
lemme try playing roblox WITHOUT throttlestop opened
still sphinx
lemme try playing roblox WITHOUT throttlestop opened
I forgot to ask and maybe you still have it, can you try opening HWMonitor as an administrator?
still sphinx
So, it didn't open again?
restive cipher
yep
still sphinx
Can you open task manager, or tell me what CPU is in your system?
restive cipher
Can you open task manager, or tell me what CPU is in your system?
I5 12450h
bro what
i got 71C on max graphics
on roblox
what the fuck happend
i just closed all my other apps
what happend?
still sphinx
Makes sense if you had a lot of other things running. Each program is going to pull the resources of the system.
restive cipher
Makes sense if you had a lot of other things running. Each program is going to p...
yeah but 28C more
?
thats really weird
if u ask me
this is what i have open
i wasnt in a match here
just lobby
still sphinx
I wouldn't say it is that weird for a laptop. The surface area of the CPU and GPU are very small, and the size of the cooler is not that big either since it has to fit into the laptop.
still sphinx
Even in the lobby the laptop has to work rendering the screen.
restive cipher
ok its rising rn
77C
75-77
its not even bad
for a thin laptop
and im at max graphics
im usually at 5-6
and like
my turbo boost is on
restive cipher
I wouldn't say it is that weird for a laptop. The surface area of the CPU and GP...
with turbo boost on im usually running at 86-98C
this is a major increase
its actually really good
but
what happend?
why did this suddenly happen
whats the difference besides some apps closed
still sphinx
Good, maybe one of those programs like that throttle one was just making your system work too hard. I had never heard of it before.
You make it sound like closing the apps wasn't a big deal. You can get massive swings on performance scores with benchmarks if you open and close other apps because they drain resources.
Do you have an FPS counter open while playing games to see if those are affected?
restive cipher
Do you have an FPS counter open while playing games to see if those are affected...
not and external one but on the roblox one it says im running 60 fps(the cap) constantly
restive cipher
You make it sound like closing the apps wasn't a big deal. You can get massive s...
the only other apps were throttle stop, malwarebytes, razer app and blitz
still sphinx
Okay, so best advice for now is do not have a lot of apps running, uninstall programs you are not using (this would not include the HWMonitor that I asked you to install since it isn't working), and enjoy.
Malwarebytes could have really made your CPU work if it was doing some sort of scan while you were looking at temps.
restive cipher
Malwarebytes could have really made your CPU work if it was doing some sort of s...
it wasnt doing any scans ik that cuz my trial ended lol
Do u think buying this will help?
still sphinx
My recommendation is continue to play/test and keep programs closed that you are not using.
You know how to disable apps from starting up when the PC is turned on?
restive cipher
My recommendation is continue to play/test and keep programs closed that you are...
yeah i know that dont worry
i have been playing on pc since i was 3
i should know how to do that properly
lol
should i keep msi center on like
startup
?
still sphinx
Do you need MSI Center to control your fan profile?
restive cipher
i am not sure about that
should i test it
?
i use extreme mode on it, it makes my fan be used at the max output
these are the settings for extreme mode
imma restart my pc and check
with it disabled
still sphinx
Maybe look at temps if you have MSI Center closed. It would be biased since people complain when there is an issue, but I have only seen issues with MSI Center.
Plus, it would be one less program pulling resources of the laptop.
restive cipher
Yeah i need it opened
still sphinx
https://www.amazon.co.uk/KLIM-Powerful-Turbo-Fan-Performance-Overheating-Black/d...
I don't have an opinion of a thermal pad one way or the other, since I have never used one.
My only recommendation would be to read reviews, see if people say it does what it promises, and check if the extra fan noise from the pad would drive you insane or not.
still sphinx
Yeah i need it opened
Okay, well if you are not having issues with it, then it shouldn't cause any issues. Advice is saying the same, close stuff you don't need, and make it so it won't start up in the background. One being malwarebytes since you are not even under services.
restive cipher
i never thought it would because of processes
thats really crazy
thank you so much
if you wouldnt have told me to close all processes, i would have been still wondering whats wrong
still sphinx
if you wouldnt have told me to close all processes, i would have been still wond...
You are welcome. Glad it got back to a level of performance that you can enjoy.
rich flower
if you wouldnt have told me to close all processes, i would have been still wond...
Yeah I always restart my PC before I start playing games, especially if my PC has been on for a long time.