HOT TAKES

[woven plinth]

My dad (Italian) was born in Moscow

I am the only kid born in Russia who is Russian in my family

National identity is complex and I would say it's just where you feel like you belong generally

[simple mason]

Made me remember this meme

[woven plinth]

My great grandparents

Were a landowner family in Ukraine (Kherson)

They had to move away

Because of the Soviets

To Kyrgyzstan/Kazakhstan

Is all

[stone egret]

And yet here I am being disappointed that my passport has no indication that I lived in the south of the Netherlands for most of my life lmao

Y'alls nationalities change without even moving

Puts my thing into perspective I guess

[woven plinth]

In my region in Italy we hang Austrian flags

Celebrate Austrian stuff and used to celebrate the Kaiser's birthday

[simple mason]

South Tyrol?

[woven plinth]

I knew I would get that answer but no

Friuli

Many people who are orginally from here will also tell you they are not from Italy but name their region instead

Furthermore even our region doesn't like eachother amongst themselves

It takes around 5-10km for people to start speaking a funny accent

[simple mason]

Would be my second guess

[woven plinth]

Nobody even knows we exist tbf

So it's a fair guess

[ebon birch]

yeah good point

[woven plinth]

And even amongst Friulan there is division

There's already 3 but I would draw a few more lines

[ebon birch]

Frulli frulla?

[woven plinth]

What is this lol

[ebon birch]

brainrot

[woven plinth]

No wonder

[ebon birch]

its like that in puglia too

ppl in my dads village speak a language completely different from the one a village over

the old ppl dont even speak italian

[woven plinth]

There is a difference between

Dialects and languages tho

And also bc Friuli was part of Austria, we have a chunk of Slovenia and Croatia and France

[ebon birch]

idk I think a lot of the dialect/language discussion in italy is very missleading

yeah there are dialects of italian but i think most regions do have a language different enough from italian to be their own language

[woven plinth]

There is also "Autonomous regions" for the more culturally excluded regions of Italy

[ebon birch]

like dialect implies it developed from italian

whereas italian is really just florence and the surrounding area right

so everything else didnt develop from italian, it developed parallel to it

[ebon birch]

but thats just semantics i guess

[woven plinth]

Yea

[ebon birch]

big up italy

[woven plinth]

But Italian evolved since then I would say

[ebon birch]

do you think southern italisns are poor and unevolved and backwards

[woven plinth]

It is hard to say people in Turin speak their own language

[ebon birch]

ive hard the most crazy opinions about southern italians

from nothern italians

[woven plinth]

Wellllllllll

[ebon birch]

its all funny to me

[woven plinth]

I did not have a great experience with a Napoletano classmate

Calling someone a southerner "Terron"

Is considered an insult

[ebon birch]

from a kinda southern perspective

italians are meant to be poor

north italisn are too rich to be real italians

(joke)

[woven plinth]

From a Friulian perspective we have less unemployment and longer work hours to fund the less working regions

[ebon birch]

hahahahahhaha

[woven plinth]

And Rome and Milan

So we want to leave

Either with the Venetians etc. or back into Austria or by ourselves

[ebon birch]

okay but which region has the best food?

[woven plinth]

Last 10 years that sentiment is dying due to southern Italian immigration

Diluting the demographic

[ebon birch]

yeah i have italian family everywhere

inside and outside of italy

theres no reason to stay in puglia

[woven plinth]

I think I don't have a say

I've only been south of Pò once

[ebon birch]

damn i've never been north of Pisa

[woven plinth]

In Rome

[ebon birch]

I wanna go to Milan this year though

[woven plinth]

Otherwise my family doesn't really go south of Veneto usually

[woven plinth]

It is kinda mid imo unless u like big cities (I do) but I understand that it is definitely not for everyone

It is what you would expect from a capital of any country

Less Italian, more international

More garbage

If there is any place I would live in Italy I would stay in Milan tho

[ebon birch]

If i moved to italy, it would have to be to a big city that has tech jobs

[woven plinth]

I left Italy

[ebon birch]

so milan makes the most sense

[woven plinth]

And don't want to return

[simple mason]

for Russia?

[ebon birch]

you disliked it that much?

[woven plinth]

I will put it into context

I was born in Moscow

Left at the age of 5

To a different country

Came to Italy at the age of 9

Knowing 0 Italian words

[simple mason]

I would definitely much rather live in northern Italy than Moscow

[ebon birch]

yeah but theres also the factor of where you feel more at home

[woven plinth]

U been to both?

[simple mason]

I've only been to northern Italy. I'd live there rather than in Moscow even just because of its position, Moscow is so far away from everything else. There's also the thing called Russian government...

[stone egret]

Hot take: Ea Nasir is a fucking scam artist and we need to cancel him for his shit copper

[woven plinth]

It's only far away from the places you know about, though

Moscow is also full of places itself

[simple mason]

Well yes

[woven plinth]

We have The Golden Ring

You could argue yes less cultural diversity

But that just depends on how much you like the cultures around you too

There is a lot of stuff around local tourism

As it is widespread in Russia for many reasons

Even before sanctions

[simple mason]

But from Italy you can reach basically the whole western Europe and a big chunk of eastern Europe within a 1-2 day car drive, and I don't think there's that many interesting things around Moscow

[woven plinth]

Saint. Petersbourg is 4 hours of train +-

[simple mason]

Also it's too flat around Moscow

[woven plinth]

Well yes

As I said

It also depends how much you are a fan of city stuff rather than nature

Having lived enough around the Alps I didn't really mind losing them tbf

[slate veldt]

never go to the great plains then youll get prairie madness

[woven plinth]

Everything around Northern Italy is much more expensive than Italy though

[simple mason]

Well yeah, that's the reason.

[woven plinth]

Outside of Moscow everything is cheaper

[slate veldt]

wait what cities have the most historical sites in russia

[woven plinth]

I knew plenty ppl who never left Italy

For those reasons

[simple mason]

Moscow and St. Petersburg

[woven plinth]

Depends where you live

But I lived in the poor North

[slate veldt]

four hrs by train lowkey ligjt work

[woven plinth]

Not the rich northern Italy

[simple mason]

How is it with buying power compared to vages though?

[woven plinth]

Gdp per capita ppp of Russia is around the level of Baltics

With an asterisk

Cause inequality

But y'know

It wouldn't drop it as much as it seems

Moscow wages are around 2-3x surrounding regions

So if you are from there, you will be able to afford quite some local stuff

Only rich people could afford Western EU before

And still can now

[simple mason]

The same with northern Italy though

[woven plinth]

Well in my area

U have Ljubljana (More expensive)

Salzburg (Way more expensive)

München (Way more expensive)

Milan (Same inequality as Moscow and surrounding)

And Switzerland (I won't even mention it)

The problem with Italy is its poor education for me

There is actually a lack of tertiary education which is rare

But the system sucks so bad you rather just move elsewhere where you can afford to

Since in your vicinity you have so much choice

Many of the cities are built around tourism so there is less incentive for locals to stay

Venice is a great example

Moscow is centralised for not only tourism but also locals, hence offers more opportunity

Milan is not an option for me, but if it was, why not just go to Switzerland or Austria or Germany for those prices

[vague bolt]

i lowkey feel that, ngl

higher education is so inaccessible to so many people. i myself can barely afford to get my education, and ive had to take out loans to pay my tuition + fees. i am more fortunate than a lot of people though, since my hometown is a college town with a good geology program, but holy shit is it expensive. idk how it is in your area, but for the US, its like if the cost of the education doesn't get you, the cost of living will.

i was actually talking to my dad about this recently, but also it seems like the minimum education to get a job these days is at least a bachelors degree, but often companies will state they are looking for somebody with "5 years experience, a masters degree will substitute for two" so even people with undergrad degrees are struggling to find reliable work. in the '80s, you could get a job that could sustain a family with nothing but a high school diploma. it wouldnt be glamorous work fs, but it would be reliable and pay enough to support a family.

seems like education systems just suck overall

for different reasons across the globe, but still

[slate comet]

education is free in germany

[ebon birch]

too soon

[ebon birch]

yeah totally, many ppl I know did a bacherlors in a stem subject and are now a barista. They needed to do at least a masters just to get a minimum wage shit job in their field

[woven plinth]

My dad got a glamorous job with a highschool degree

He still has that job now

[slate veldt]

oh back in the old days

😔

when thatw as possibel

[vague bolt]

this shouldnt be a hot take but: people who cant write an essay piss me off. and ofc i dont mean people who struggle to write due to learning disabilities or because they are writing in a secondary language or smth. i mean people who wont read the material, get the basic information in their essay wrong, cannot form a coherent sentence, and everything they write in the essay is complete filler with no actual substance

i just peer reviewed an essay for one of my classes and i thought my essay was not my best, because it wasn't, quite frankly. but then i sat down to peer review one of my classmate's work and i could tell she had no clue what she was writing about. its one thing to put off the essay until the day its due and have to half-ass it to get it done (i would know), and its another thing entirely to try to write an essay without knowing literally anything about the essay prompt

[ebon birch]

yeah a lot of people at uni are shit at writting essays - me included. Luckily I didn't really have to for my subject

[slate comet]

baby smoothies are nice

[nocturne heart]

Hot take: Nutella is not that good

[slate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/die-of-beaties-diabetes-doughnut-donut-sugar-high-gif-16498057

[simple mason]

Not how good? Definitely a cold take.

[stone egret]

Not a hot take for those who know the oklahoma university essay controversy

[boreal ermine]

Steamy scenes in tv shows and movies shouldn’t be a thing

literally so unnecessary

[stone egret]

Steamy scenes that are more about the couple's chemistry and are shot sensually rather than "oh look at these people boinking" are fine IF THEY'RE RARE. But they should stick to like a makeout and then fade to black as the audience realize they're about to boink. Steamy scenes between two people who have 0 chemistry but we're supposed to realize that they're experiencing love at first sight just because they're a man and a woman CAN FUCKING DIE

[vague bolt]

agree, because its pretty easy to imply what happens and then cut to a different thing

but a steamy scene here and there is not necessarily bad

just when it doesnt serve any plot

[crimson shell]

also when it cuts to them

no warning

[vague bolt]

yeah

idk if this is a hot take or not but when people talk about the pepsi vs coke thing all i can think about is rootbeer because it is objectively the best soda

i also respect dr pepper as an answer for best soda

but coke and pepsi are kinda mid

[crimson shell]

yeah root beer is top tier

love a good root beer float

i also fw crush but not a lot of people like that ig

[vague bolt]

i struggle with fruit soda for some reason

it feels like drinking carbonated hard candy

but yesss i love a good root beer float

one year for my birthday i had rootbeer floats instead of a cake

was pretty legit

[steep lava]

I disagree, and this is coming from someone who generally skips that stuff

9 times out of 10 it's completely unnecessary

But on occasion I think they can serve their purpose

[slate veldt]

when you can write an essay but you dont want to 🥀

thats me

i lowkenuienely hate writing essays

like let me say my points then throw the sources at you for you to look thru urself

(this is for research essays)

[steep lava]

I hate writing essays about subjects I am disinterested in

Which is why I mostly hated English class in school

Most of the time it was over subjects I had no interest in

[slate veldt]

i lowkenuienely just hate writing essays but thats also partially cause of my adhd

honestly the research part is fun

but writing it all down is where it gets annoying

[vague bolt]

i figured out a strategy to get them done quickly because i dont like writing them but i dont like writing poorly so

[slate veldt]

real

[vague bolt]

and i just plan on doing them on the day that its due

[slate veldt]

thats why i lowkenuienely just end up not doing them at all

[vague bolt]

dang

i love writing essays about things im passionate about, but when i have to just regurgitate the details of an already published study about the life cycle assessment of a product i just get so bored

probably my audhd

[slate veldt]

im just not passionate enoigh about anythign to write

i cannot do long form writing ahh🥀🥀🥀

why im a stem major and not humanities major i

[stone egret]

I am a certified yapper and lowkey write essays every time I get passionate just because I can ramble for so long lmao

One time this course was so sucky due to the way it was set up and just general incompetence of the people in charge so when they asked us to fill in their little review form at the end of it I wrote a whole 3000 words on why they should drop the course and rework it from the ground up

I have been told they reworked it but idk how much of that was due to my review lmao

[boreal ermine]

Chocolate chips/nuts don’t belong in banana bread

[undone lake]

thats a good take

[undone lake]

i hate it when i eat something crunchy in my bread

[nocturne heart]

Banana bread is

[undone lake]

you should try green tomato bread

its weird sounding but its pretty good

[dusty furnace]

nuts don't belong in anything

but chocolate chips belong in everything

[boreal ermine]

All cats are girls

[simple mason]

All cats are void beings manifesting themselves in this realm

[boreal ermine]

Hot Take: Everyone should buy HOTZONE from the Library at spawn🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

Don't be the only one missing out on the hottest tea

[crimson shell]

cold take

[pallid gale]

So you’re saying you agree! 🕺

[crimson shell]

yeah course i am

[steep lava]

I don't know about you all, but I think racism is cringe

[boreal ermine]

TEAM HAILEY

sry seleners

[steep lava]

What

[dusty furnace]

Hot Take: If you "don't do politics" in this current day and age I'm looking at you sideways and/or regarding you as a coward

[crimson shell]

like this?

[dusty furnace]

like this

[crimson shell]

oh like this

[dusty furnace]

basically

but with a focus on the cowardice

[pallid gale]

Ya if you aren’t using ChatGPT to help make your political decisions you’re not being a responsible citizen

[dusty furnace]

I know this is satire but it still made my eye twitch lmao

[boreal ermine]

if men could give birth there’d be a lot less people in the world

[vague bolt]

if men could give birth, the cost of birthing a child wouldn't be so high

(in the US)

[pallid gale]

It might be outrageous enough to seem satirical

But me and GPT in that polling station putting in the work

[boreal ermine]

It probably would still stay high since men give birth less. Supply and demand baby

[stone egret]

Reminds me of how men don't really want to be parents, they just want to be fathers. Parenting to them is just throwing around a ball with your kid and playing video games with them and then when the kid needs to go to the dentist or is crying it becomes mom's job

[stone egret]

Big agree

[boreal ermine]

It’s kinda funny because I’ve always preferred it when men say they want to “be a father/husband” as opposed to saying they want to “have a wife/kids”

[stone egret]

Okay but you're so real for that tho

Because "I want a wife/kids" is about ownership and "I want to be a father" is about wanting a certain role and implies they want to be actually actively present

But at the same time, fatherhood is seen as a more passive and fun role in society and men don't need to take it that seriously because mom will pick up the slack (and if the kid looks unkempt or something it'll always be seen as the mother's fault)

[vague bolt]

(preface by saying im an environmental science nerd who is going into hydrology) hydroelectric power is not a "clean" energy source in any respect except for its carbon emissions, but when you look at how it basically turns rivers into systems of slack water pools and ruins both fish habitat (pacific lamprey my beloved) and Native American hunting/gathering/sacred sites, it becomes increasingly more obvious that it just isnt worth it. it's "clean" but it disrupts the natural river environment farrrrrr to much

some environmentalists are much too focused on carbon emissions and forget that no energy infrastructure exists in a vacuum

might be clean, but its not very green

these goofballs are heavily threatened by hydroelectric dams

anyways hydro is possibly one of my least favorite energy sources

[stone egret]

People should only get rid of entire water systems to build a whole new province (this joke was brought to you by the Dutch)

Anyway, speaking of clean energy: people who are anti wind turbines on the coastline because they "ruin the view" need to be burned for fuel imo

[vague bolt]

i love the look of turbines

i think they make the view better

they have been known to kill birds of prey though. the good thing is thats pretty easily adapted by making the rotation of the blades dependent on bird flight patterns

[stone egret]

I think Dutch people especially who are against them are dumb af like windmills are literally our thing??? Why can we not agree that modern windmills (the names for windmill and windturbine in Dutch are the same) are dope as hell and should be considered as a way we continue our windmill legacy???

I hate Dutch people sometimes

[slate veldt]

screw everyone lets all turn to nuclear power

😛

[stone egret]

Tbf they also killed people that one time they got stuck on top of one when it caught fire

[slate veldt]

#nuclearenergu

[vague bolt]

i actually do like nuclear power

very clean

[stone egret]

I have a LOT of opinions on nuclear

[slate veldt]

#buildnuclearpowerplantsinsafeplaces instead of the ring of fire

[vague bolt]

its not perfect ofc

[slate veldt]

the first two diasters were because of errors that couldve been avoided

and the third didnt even have that much damage

[vague bolt]

yeah why do they keep putting nuclear power plants in locations with megathrust earthquakes hello

"tsunami? pshhhh that wont be an issue"

[slate veldt]

nuclear waste is not that much of a concern considering the amount of place allocated to manure waste, landfill, etc etc

[stone egret]

And they all boil down to you can't trust that the people in your future are capable of keeping the system going or care enough to do so and negligence is what makes nuclear power unsafe

[slate veldt]

yeah but technology wise, people have only improved on existing systems

i do get that argument about the far far future

but also not really

considering we just keep building on info we already have

[boreal ermine]

ya wait i heard nuclear energy is acc peak

[vague bolt]

its pretty good yeah

[slate veldt]

100% nuclear power is very unlikely, but a good chunk of energy can be nuclear

[stone egret]

It's a great power source in theory but it's impossible to predict what the world will look like and which countries will elect an absolute buffoon as their leader which will lead to system failure due to neglect because old fucks in power won't live long enough to see the effects of their shitty rulings

[boreal ermine]

there's an old one i see whenever i do the drive down to san diego. call it the sano tiddies

[vague bolt]

and nuclear is pretty safe as long as you account for geology and shit

[slate veldt]

europe is actually a really good area to have nuclear power plants because the lack of natural disasters… (but not many made ones gulp)

man made*

[boreal ermine]

damn ur so right i just realized they dont have a lot of natural disasters

[vague bolt]

and as long as we develop better waste management techniques, which is applicable to every kind of energy so

[stone egret]

Okay good to know I'm screaming into the void

[slate veldt]

i have enough confidence in the scientists of the future because a good chunk of the time they give a big middle finger to politicians, but lowkey with whats happening rn that kinda skews my view a lil (fda… cdc…)

[vague bolt]

this happens with energy like biomass and fossil fuels, which have a much worse carbon footprint

[slate veldt]

but i think for something big as nuclear power they’d actually take care of it because it’d affect enough including the rich because they dont want their land polluted lmao

cause that shit TRAVELSSS

[stone egret]

Yeah but an exploding power plant will just explode the surrounding area but a nuclear power plant is so much worse when it goes wrong

[stone egret]

Tf are scientists gonna do? They need funding

No one listens to scientists

[vague bolt]

true, which is why improved safety measures have to be developed

[stone egret]

Did we all forget covid???

[slate veldt]

they can just decomission power plants safely then

[stone egret]

And safety measures can be ignored by negligent systems of power

Nuclear power is an energy source where you have to think about the responsibilities you're putting onto the future rather than just saying "well it's safe right now"

[boreal ermine]

wait i thought it WAS safest tho

ppl think cernobyl

[slate veldt]

yeah but when many lives are on the line i dont think the people who work there will be quiet about it

because yk the people who work there wanna live too

[stone egret]

How??? The government decides when to decommission and how to do it, it's not on scientists and they don't hold the money to do so

[boreal ermine]

god i hate the way takis stains ur fingers

[slate veldt]

i dont think the government owns powerplants?

companies get approval from the government

but i dont think its 100% the government

[vague bolt]

that depends on the area

[slate veldt]

yeah

[vague bolt]

hanford site was owned and operated by the government and it was also really harmful to the environment because of the improper waste management

[slate veldt]

anyways decomission is like in two processes, the immediate part (to take away the highest risk thing aka the reactor and the long part (to let the remaining stuff decay away))

[vague bolt]

the biggest problem there is potential leakage of chemicals that have really long half lives

nuclear is complicated because it can be very safe and very effective and very eco-friendly, but it can also be incredibly detrimental to human health, and if something goes wrong, it can cause big problems

[slate veldt]

nuclear energy also has the potential to become even safer (fusion) but there isnt any interest in it (because its also rlly expensive to research) 🥀

[stone egret]

Ugh this is why I hate discussions about nuclear energy. Because it turns into a debate of "well it's actually quite safe because we do x, y and z" and like I KNOW but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about nuclear power plants having the capability of doing an extreme amount of damage to an area that might not have had anything to do with the power plant in question. And just because it's safe right now, doesn't mean you can be absolutely certain future neglect won't occur. You're handing over a lot of responsibilities to future generations who might struggle with political unrest or a new pandemic or natural disasters that leads them to forget about the importance of regular maintanance and keeping safety measures in check. And that's assuming the government is a good one and a dictatorship doesn't break out.

I'm not saying there is no space for nuclear energy. I'm just saying it's not as simple as "well it is clean right now" because it's a long term responsibility

[slate veldt]

i mean thats why you cant build nuclear energy just anywhere rlly but there are a lot of places that should have nuclear power plants

[stone egret]

And that goes the same for the waste btw. You're saddling the future generations with the waste you created and assuming they will handle it witht the same care you did

[boreal ermine]

the sad thing tho is that the world as a whole operates without really giving a fuck about the future

so its like, if we can benefit the now, thats the best option

[stone egret]

Okay but we should care about other people??? The fuck???

[boreal ermine]

ya in theory but in practice?

im not seeing it rn

[slate veldt]

the thing about the arguement is that its hard to wrap my head around the fact that "nuclear waste is bad be careful" knowledge will be lost in the future yk what i mean?

[stone egret]

Just because it doesn't happen in practice doesn't mean you should throw in the towel and decide you won't care either

[boreal ermine]

im not saying thats my own personal belief btw im saying in the context of the world

[slate veldt]

there are many toxins and poisons and dangerous things that have stayed in human history for a long time and thats without having technology and stuff

[stone egret]

I'm not saying the knowledge would be lost, but locations of disposal sites might be lost or if the system of power changes rapidly in a short time, critical moments where inspections should have happened might be forgotten about

[crimson shell]

i feel like nuclear energy would be easy to sabotage

like just bombing some other countrie's site

[slate veldt]

anything is easy to sabotage

[stone egret]

This too

I was gonna mention that too

[vague bolt]

most energy sources are easy to sabotage

[crimson shell]

but bombing a power plant is worse than chopping down a windmill

[slate veldt]

yeah but the attacking country lowkey has to take into account the fact that THEY could be affected too

but not all leaders are smart so

but if someone bombs a nuclear power plant then that kinda will straight up could evolve into nuclear warfare

[stone egret]

Lemme just gesture wildly to the state of the middle east rn

[slate veldt]

yeah i mentioned that

[slate veldt]

^

[stone egret]

Yeah but how do you prove that they intentionally bombed the power plant

[slate veldt]

why would there be a bomb nearby there anyway 😭

idk another way a nuclear power plant could be sabtoaged

[stone egret]

For the same reason random innocent civilians get bombed all the time

"Oopsie, I thought you were hiding soldiers there"

[slate veldt]

yeah the country that got attacked could just say "idc fuck you" boom nuclear weaponary used

[stone egret]

"This elementary school looked very suspicious when I flew over with my drone"

[slate veldt]

it'd escalate either way

war only rlly escalates

[vague bolt]

nuclear power is evidence of why LCA is needed for just about any product or service tbh

[stone egret]

No they can't. Because if internationally there's not a 100% agreement that the bombing was intentional, they look like assholes who threw nuclear bombs over an honest mistake

[stone egret]

Oh dude my opinions on war are even more insane but let's not go there

[slate veldt]

an honest mistake but it could still be an act of war

so

😭

anyways this is why we should invest in fusion

[stone egret]

Lmao Russia shot down a passenger plane and we still all have to treat it as an oopsie because otherwise Putin will invade us too

[slate veldt]

yeah but power plants are on the countries land

so i feel like it gets more iffy there

[vague bolt]

ngl, if we used the possibility of war as the basis of why we should not do something, we would never get any progress made

[slate veldt]

but for waste storage site though the knowledge just does have the possibility to continue to be passed down like... look at hamlet and the odyssesy and beauwolf etc ect

[vague bolt]

and at the same time, avoiding war is good

[slate veldt]

there is a lot of knowledge that has stayed in humanity for a long ass time and again we have technology now to keep helping us

[vague bolt]

both statements can be true

[stone egret]

Yeah because Shakespeare famously doesn't have any lost plays

[stone egret]

There's also so much lost media

[slate veldt]

right but there is an elevated importance here

[stone egret]

Wich also creates more incentive for hackers to fuck with the data

[slate veldt]

its not like there isnt more than one way to save data

dont we still have the og copy of the constitution?

[stone egret]

In general, history has not been kind to those who assumed there was no way their plan would fail

[slate veldt]

yeah thats why you have more than one plan

do everything that you can to ensure the knowledge carries for as long as it can

say the knowledge does get lost of the exact area the waste is, there could still be knowledge of the general area which can be used to pinpoint the exact area again

[vague bolt]

true, having back up plans upon back up plans is necessary for risky things like nuclear power

because manonnie is right, the possibility of something going wrong in the future is really dangerous

[slate veldt]

if the knowledge of nuclear waste, energy, radiation, and radiation poisoning continues to exist then the knowledge of the sites should still exist

[slate veldt]

for power plants def yeah

ive gone down the waste debate

that rhymes lmao

[vague bolt]

like we would never be able to fully transition to nuclear energy (especially as we currently stand) but it would be possible to do LCA, LCIA, and LCCA to plan for as many mishaps as possible

we do that for other things too, like earthquakes and tsunamis

[slate veldt]

i mean the knowledge that nuclear waste sites should exist (but maybe not exactly location)

[slate veldt]

yeah def

i mentioned that earlier lmao

[vague bolt]

yuh

[slate veldt]

it cant be used everywhere but there a lot of places where it should be used

[vague bolt]

could* be used

[slate veldt]

plus those areas like the ring of fire, etc can use other better forms of energy like geothermal(?)

[stone egret]

So if people don't know where such a place is what's to prevent them from accidentally destroying it and dumping the nuclear waste in the process

[vague bolt]

yeah keep nuclear away from the pacific ocean PLEASE

[slate veldt]

real

[vague bolt]

but like vermont maybe

the eastern US has less going on seismically and geologically

the western us is tearing itself apart (literally)

[slate veldt]

by making the area clearly something that should not be touched and if it was touched it would be a hassle to mess with

which would be using man made structures etc

[vague bolt]

the seattle fault zone and the san andreas fault zone are crazy

[stone egret]

How come that you're such a pro nuclear power person but also at the same time you keep conveniently deciding that the best places for nuclear is away from where you live

[stone egret]

Yeah because people famously listen to those warnings

[vague bolt]

because not everywhere has the same geologic composition

[slate veldt]

because we acknowledge you cant place them everywhere

[stone egret]

No one has ever been harmed walking into a building that said "danger"

[slate veldt]

there is a nuclear powerplant not that far away from where i live anyway

[stone egret]

Geologic composition isn't the only problem here. Population density, economics, how peaceful the area is also all matter

[slate veldt]

i lowkey need an example of this /gen 😭

[vague bolt]

ofc they are

[slate veldt]

yeah

[vague bolt]

im not saying they arent

[stone egret]

https://www.kbtx.com/2025/12/19/19-year-old-dies-after-falling-off-abandoned-hospital-building-used-stranger-things/

https://news.sky.com/story/five-dead-after-condemned-building-collapses-during-heavy-rain-in-brazil-12917188

[vague bolt]

im just saying that the west coast is not safe geologically

for nuclear power

[stone egret]

This is just me googling randomly btw

[slate veldt]

i feel like that cant be really used in an argument, because then that brings in a lot of other things into play

[stone egret]

Also the nutty putty cave guy ignored warning signs

And so did all those other cave people who died

[slate veldt]

if there are warnings when using/entering something, then a lot of things should not be used anymore

like xrays, chemicals, etc etc

basic house hold chemicals are very dangerous

[vague bolt]

https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2015AGUFM.T34B..05M/abstract <-- this is the geology shit im referencing btw. not all locations in the Americas are active geologically. lots of volcanoes and subduction make a lot of shit unsafe. the next time the PNW experiences a megathrust earthquake, entire towns long the Washington coast will be decimated

[slate veldt]

yikes

[stone egret]

Homie I know about geology

[stone egret]

Those things only kill the one person though. A person being a dumbass and exposing nuclear waste because they didn't listen to a sign is a lot more dangerous than a person drinking lighter fluid to get high

[stone egret]

Anyway that's a strawman argument

[vague bolt]

alr i think im done with this discussion, idk that it is productive anymore

i just meant to convey my disdain for hydropower

[stone egret]

It stopped being productive a long time ago

[slate veldt]

if a nuclear waste site would be exposed, say... the nuclear waste gets leak then more measures need to be put into place it doesnt leak because its not like we can predict how it would be exposed in the future thats why we dont have any current permanent sites for thr waste

the waste we have rn

until we get better technology the current "best" plan is just layers and layers upon defensive

because even if we dont make more nuclear power plants there still is the current waste that is around

so just making it as physical impossible to access/get to/whatever instead of just warnings is all we got

anyways nuclear research needs more funding to find better ways to handle waste...

[nocturne heart]

Bomb the world all our solutions with be solved

https://tenor.com/view/saussiçon-explode-boom-gif-40973596123710618

*problems

Dang I fu*ked that comment up

*will

[steep lava]

The propellers apparently aren't easily recyclable and therefore produce a not insignificant amount of waste

[steep lava]

I think fusion actually has a ton of interest, China and France have both been putting a lot of effort into it

[steep lava]

I get where you are coming from with these arguments but you are also assuming future generations are too stupid to look at Chernobyl and think "we should do our best yo ignore it"

[steep lava]

Waste is actually very well thought out

Most of it is able to be safely recycled

And what isn't is put in a coffin essentially and buried in a safe place

I forget how big these casks are

Here's a photo of them

Now not everywhere with nuclear power does this

But it is one of our best solutions to the highly radioactive and non recyclable waste

Which is such a small part of total waste

I think it's something like 6% that has to be buried in these casks

Anywho I'm a big nuclear guy

More radioactive material towards power plants means less used in nukes

[slate veldt]

damn bro i gotta move to china if i wanna do research then

[slate veldt]

ive heard a lot about talks about storing nuclear waste long term because of how symbols change over time

like how the symbol for anything radioactive does has a chance to change over time, like the one for skulls on a black flag have

its more for those wandering and stumbling upon sites by chance tho

compared to other industries i feel like nuclear energy thinks about future generations the most and keeps working towards improvements

because its a quite a niche field to go into, you dont rlly do it for the money because there are other engineering jobs and just otther fields in general that pay better

[undone lake]

Giraffes aren't real

[simple mason]

For modern reactors it's essentially impossible to melt down or even get close to it. There are so many failsafes that to actually get it to meltdown you would have to do it deliberately and even if it would, their concrete shielding (basically a concrete bunker they're built in) will block basically all the escaping radiation. They shut themselves on their own so even if all the people disappeared they will be safe. Modern reactors can cool themselves passively without any outside intervention. The technology improves all the time so it actually gets safer throughout the time.

Even if a modern nuclear powerplant would get bombed the total radiation it would leak would be significantly lower than from the Chernobyl disaster.

[woven plinth]

Already happens in Ukraine and it's still fine

[woven plinth]

The 90s here happened, we have been in a crisis for a decade and it was kept anyway, now we're at war

You don't need nuclear energy waste to make this point, we already have nuclear weapons

[woven plinth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant

[woven plinth]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaporizhzhia_Nuclear_Power_Plant

[simple mason]

I'm pretty sure it's not being sabotaged. I thought both sides agreed not to shoot at it because no one wants it to meltdown.

[simple mason]

Oh ok, nvm then

[woven plinth]

I mean maybe they agreed to it

But it still got hit a couple times

Whether they ever aimed for the safety structures can be put under question but I doubt they had the precision to do such targetted bombings anyway

I don't know how trustworthy you consider modern Russian atomic agencies to be but I guess they seem to think that it's fine

[steep lava]

That's why there's hostile architecture discussed for where the waste is stored

This is one of my favorites

[steep lava]

Long term nuclear waste warning messages, that's what it is

[simple mason]

I like the one with glowing cats

[steep lava]

I love gm_freeway_spacetunnel

[undone lake]

If we are talking about hostile architecture the Normandy hedgehogs are very hostile

[steep lava]

True

[vague bolt]

geology hot take: basalt is the best igneous rock

especially basalt with pillow formations

(not my picture, but soooooo satisfying i love it)

like earth's brain 🥺

[boreal ermine]

There is absolutely zero excuse to accidentally get toothpaste on your clothes

Ppl that don’t brush their teeth in their PJs scare me

Best get ready order:

Brush teeth, wash face, do makeup/hair, THEN get dressed

And if you don’t wash your face, we can tell

[crimson shell]

walking into a counter and spitting it all over

thats an excuse

[boreal ermine]

My point tho is that you shouldn’t be brushing ur teeth in your normal clothes

That is a pajama activity ONLY

Whenever I see someone with dried crusted toothpaste on their shirts I’m like :/

[dusty furnace]

If you whistle when you make an "s" sound I cannot take you seriously

What do you mean you had 🐦‍⬛ S🐦‍⬛paghetti with tomato 🐦‍⬛ s🐦‍⬛au🐦‍⬛ c🐦‍⬛e

[boreal ermine]

Clowning people with speech impediments 😭😭😭

[dusty furnace]

My dad does it constantly. I have a familial link to this very specific form of sensory hell

[stone egret]

Yeah lemme just undress to brush my teeth in the middle of the day before my dentist appointment

[boreal ermine]

Now u know damn well

Are we visiting the dentist everyday?

[stone egret]

I mean I walk by my dentist every day but that's because their office is across the street lmao

[vague bolt]

counterpoint: my brother somehow gets it all over the counter and then it gets on me when im washing my hands

also i think i disagree because its just toothpaste

and also for some people (me), theres a natural flow to the morning. i get dressed first because its like the closest task to me in the morning.

[boreal ermine]

We like shouldn’t normalize walking around with stained clothes

[vague bolt]

which is also adhd but it varies in different people

[stone egret]

I feel like tooth brushing isn't a pyjama activity, but if you spill toothpaste on your shirt you should clean that up before walking out of the door or put on a different shirt

[vague bolt]

yeah you wipe it off with a washcloth

[boreal ermine]

Only exception is like if you’re a parent with a baby and shit happens ig

But we’re grown. We can avoid toothpaste on clothes

[stone egret]

I mean sometimes I'm out for dinner and stuff spills off my fork or whatever and because I have b00bs, it gets caught on my b00bs rather than dropping back on my plate...

[vague bolt]

true, but if youre paying attention to the tiny toothpaste mark on my shirt you might consider why you pay such close attention to other people

it also depends on place im going

[boreal ermine]

Toothpaste stains are hella obvious I fear

Esp if you wear dark clothes

Idk it’s just serving messiness. But for some they don’t care which whatevs.
stains on my clothes are def a nightmare for me

[boreal ermine]

This is like an accident out in the wild tho

Not like part of ur daily morning routine

[stone egret]

I agree that like for regular day to day life it shouldn't be normal to walk around with stains and shit but like if I'm doing laundry, I have to walk outside for a bit to reach the laundry room for my building and I'll wear the weirdest shit because I'm washing all my good clothes. So like yeah I'll be walking around in a shirt with permanent stains because it's not like I'm going anywhere

[boreal ermine]

Yea ur naming very specific scenarios

[vague bolt]

maybe im the weird one but if i know a shirt is clean it just has a little stain i dont really care 🤷

[stone egret]

Yeah but a parent should also like try to minimize stains and shit? Like if your baby throws up on your shirt you're gonna change it out before leaving, you don't just walk around like that

[vague bolt]

i dont really percieve how others percieve me though

[boreal ermine]

YASS exactly!!!! My point with toothpaste

[stone egret]

Then why did you name parents as an exception????

[boreal ermine]

I meant like out in the wild

[stone egret]

BUT YOU JUST SAID OUT IN THE WILD ACCIDENTS ARE FINE FOR EVERYONE

[boreal ermine]

Exactlyyy my exception

[stone egret]

I'm about to put my head through a wall

[boreal ermine]

U just helped me frame what my overall exception is

🙂‍↕️

[stone egret]

That means parents aren't the exception anymore, it just means they have a bigger likelyhood of having accidents

[boreal ermine]

But we can all lock arms and say, let’s avoid leaving the house with stains

[stone egret]

Oh okay gotcha

[vague bolt]

also how messy are you using toothpaste if getting it on your clothes is a big enough issue to make a rule of only brushing your teeth in pajamas

[stone egret]

Mood

Only times I get toothpaste on me is from splashback when spitting or if I accidentally turn my electric toothbrush on outside of my mouth

[vague bolt]

i only get it on me if my siblings are messy with the toothpaste and its on the counter for some reason

[boreal ermine]

The messier of a teeth brusher you are, the cleaner your teeth are 🫦

Also I actually leave pjs on until I’m done with makeup bc the setting powder can get everywhere

[vague bolt]

thats a good point

the powder thing

idk that i agree that messy teethbrushing is better

[stone egret]

Okay but that leaves you at the risk of getting makeup on the inside of your collar when putting your shirt over your head

[boreal ermine]

I lowk like to lay down while I brush my teeth

[boreal ermine]

Girllll I have a method for this

[vague bolt]

well theres your problem

[boreal ermine]

No no on my back

It’s the least messy way trust

[stone egret]

With my type of electric toothrbrush, messy brushing is way less effective

[boreal ermine]

I like to take my time brushing my teeth I love dental care

[vague bolt]

yeah thats my experience too

i guess i also have bigger fish to fry than making sure i dont leave the house with stains

the fact that i leave the house is a win

[stone egret]

MOOD

[boreal ermine]

Idk id argue that looking your best is feeling your best but

I don’t like to leave the house in my idgaf looks bc often times I end up gaf

[stone egret]

If I'm going somewhere I'll make sure to look presentable. But if I'm just going to walk to the grocery store around the corner, I'm going in whatever way I can motivate myself.

It sometimes already takes me 5 hours to get up and get my ass there

[vague bolt]

my idgaf outfits are just jeans and a tshirt and a hoodie so i usually just go to class in that

[stone egret]

I often leave the house in sports leggings and a tshirt

[boreal ermine]

Jeans and a tshirt can be cutie

I’m talking all sloppy n shi with stains is when I’m like oh wow🫩

[stone egret]

If it's summer and I'm not wearing a coat, or if I'll have to take off said coat I'll make sure my shirt is stainless and clean but otherwise idc because it's not like it'll be seen

[vague bolt]

oh yeah well the tshirts that have stains are like teeny tiny little stains

the ones with big stains stay at home

my goal is usually not to look cute though

[boreal ermine]

Period stain underwear can stay in my rotation when needed that’s my only rule😭🤣🤣

[vague bolt]

real

like whatevs once its clean

[stone egret]

I mean I'll look sloppy to most people unless I wear something that's actually a whole ass outfit™ complete with my hair done and makeup because I'm fat and people think fat people are always disgusting so idc I'm not gonna put in all that effort to go to the grocery store

And I barely wear makeup anyway because I don't like how face makeup feels and I never really learned as a teenager so right now I only ever really play around with eye makeup

[boreal ermine]

Haha we don’t have to go that far with full beat but wearing smth nasty is the same amount of effort as wearing something presentable

But ig USA presentable is different bc athleisure is still presentable out here

[vague bolt]

im not a big fan of wearing leggings in public tbh

[stone egret]

I agree, so like if I'm meeting people or I'll go to class or whatever, I'll wear something clean. But I'm not gonna change out my bedrotting shirt just to walk to the grocery store when I'm wearing a coat over it anyway

[vague bolt]

i would sooner wear sweatpants than leggings out in public i think

[boreal ermine]

I have an easy girl makeup routine that is jus centered around my tinted sunscreen

V easy

[stone egret]

I only wear them because my shirts are long enough to cover my butt

[vague bolt]

big shirt supremacy !!!!!

[boreal ermine]

Nothing is better than sleeping in a big shirt

PEAK

[stone egret]

And I think big shirt plus sweatpants looks a lot more sloppy on me than big shirt and leggings

[vague bolt]

thats true

big shirt + sweatpants was me in highschool

looking back i wish i had just put on a pair of jeans

[stone egret]

Especially as a fat person because it just looks like I'm trying to hide myself underneath baggy clothing and that shit does not work so in the end it just looks weird

Like leggings and big shirt at least has the contrast to make it look like I put in a little effort, even if I'm still wearing leggings

[boreal ermine]

Whatever makes u feel confident regardless of size is a dub

[vague bolt]

this is true

and regardless of gender :))

[stone egret]

I'm trying to learn to feel confident in (eye) makeup because I like doing it but because I rarely wear it it always feels performative lowkey

[boreal ermine]

It took me so long to find clothes that flattered my body type but that’s another topic ig hahaha

I do love clothes

And fashion

[vague bolt]

i also love clothes

i especially love thriftinggggg

eye makeup is hard :((

[boreal ermine]

Yea I can’t do eye makeup either

[stone egret]

But I used to have this friend who was very anti-makeup (I'm not friends with her anymore, she was toxic in many ways) and I'm still trying to unlearn some of the things she pushed

[boreal ermine]

Only a MEAN winged eyeliner

[vague bolt]

the most ive ever been able to do is like mascara

[boreal ermine]

Being an anti makeup girl is so pick me

[vague bolt]

i have an eyeliner stamp thing

[stone egret]

It's annoying that I only enjoy doing eye makeup because I have hooded eyes and eyelids that shake whenever I try to put on eyeliner so I really got the worst genetic lottery for eye makeup

And it all gets hidden behind my glasses anyway lol

[vague bolt]

anti-makeup for yourself: ✅
anti-makeup for everybody else: 🚫

[stone egret]

But I think it's way more fun than face makeup which is just various shades of brown on different spots of your face yknow

[vague bolt]

yessss i love colorful eye looks

[boreal ermine]

I have rly big eyes/eyelids so I feel like any eyeshadow looks rly unbalanced

[vague bolt]

i always feel like i look like a 65 year old woman every time i try a colorful look tho so i dont usually

[stone egret]

Yeah she would be anti makeup for herself and be fine with other girls wearing it. But if one of her friends who never wore makeup decided to wear it, she would make a big stink about them being performative and forgetting who they really are and they must be insecure and she always thought it looked ugly and ugh

[boreal ermine]

Yea that’s pick me

[vague bolt]

heh?? thats insane

[boreal ermine]

She jus jealous

[vague bolt]

thats a good way to lose all ur friends really fast

[stone egret]

And like whenever I do wear makeup my mom will go like "omg??? makeup???" because I never wear it and that just makes me more insecure about it because like pls don't make it such a big deal 😭

[vague bolt]

REAL

[stone egret]

Oh yeah she's that kind of person who has a new friend group every 5 years because everyone leaves her

[boreal ermine]

I think I wear makeup so often that it’s like my “normal”. So when I raw dog my face I get hit with the “omg ru sick??”

[vague bolt]

i also hate that response

like just let my face breathe please

[boreal ermine]

But I rly am a sunscreen girl on my face so my skin is like super pale compared to my body

[vague bolt]

ppl should stop commenting on what women do with their personal style tbh

hot take

not hot take

i loveeee sunscreen

[stone egret]

I stopped speaking to her when she told my sister (we were both friends with her) that she talked to her dad about having a boyfriend and it was super awkward because they have like a daddy's little girl type relationship. So then she said to my sister "you're so lucky you'll never have to go through this" because our father is dead.

[vague bolt]

which reminds me that im almost out of mine actually...

[vague bolt]

hello??

[boreal ermine]

Wow

[vague bolt]

thats insane behavior

[stone egret]

Yeah she made such a big deal out of it being awkward that she had to introduce her boyfriend to her family and like girl you're 24 years old... And then the comment about our dad was just the nail in the coffin for me

[vague bolt]

damn

yeah i dont blame you

alr im going to bed fr this time gn yall

[stone egret]

Sleep well!

[boreal ermine]

Sign that friend up for all the solicitor calls

Karma👹👹

[stone egret]

Lmao nah she rushed into her relationship with her current boyfriend because she was so desperate to actually have a relationship finally that she lowkey made herself change for him (like she suddenly went with him to hardstyle festivals when she wasn't into that stuff before, and his friends are like dudebro's and she would prioritize hanging out with him and his friends over her own friends) and she also stopped pursuing a degree around that same time because she dropped out of what she was doing because it wasn't for her but then didn't really look for something else even though she always wanted to be educated because no one in her family was. But her boyfriend never got anything beyond a high school education because he got to work in his dad's business so then she was just like "well it works for my boyfriend" and then started working full time at her shitty side job so like life is enough karma as it is

Girliepop lowkey dropped her friends and education for a man

And like she does have a like degree in fashion and stuff (it's hard to explain cuz the Dutch school system does not at all link up to the American one) but she doesn't even do shit with it. She could become a tailor and then slowly progress in that trade until she's an actual designer or something. Her boyfriend and parents both have money so she has ppl who can provide for her if she doesn't make much. But nope, she's still working in this distribution center doing scheduling work (which is the shittiest job in that place. Most people would rather continue doing order picking than 'promote' into scheduling because it's such a thankless job for not even that big of a salary increase

[slate veldt]

bruh my phone screen brightness is too low i thought this was going for sleep

anyway i brush my teeth only after eating breakfast

cause it feels counterintuitive to brush teeth then eat

and the only people who can say smthing about bacteria or germs are people who use hand sanitizer or wash their hands every time before they eat

wnd who disinfect their phoje screen

[slate veldt]

so real bruh😭

eyeliner is also annoying asf for hooded eyes

[boreal ermine]

this is nuts

[crimson shell]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-shocked-gif-9885796698302419555

[boreal ermine]

brushing ur teeth while lying on ur back is peak

BEST way to brush

[lament bloom]

Grippy sock behavior

[boreal ermine]

do it and then get back to me

esp in the mornings when ur colddd OMG

[lament bloom]

Sorry, I don’t hear people in my head, I can’t do it

[boreal ermine]

Someone do it in the morning and report back

Another hot take:

I think sheep and turkeys and cows should be in zoos

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a turkey irl and I don’t think I ever will

[crimson shell]

There’s a pack of turkeys that roams my city

[steep lava]

Really?

[boreal ermine]

Omg

[vague bolt]

This may be due to your geographic location I fear

We have a shit ton of turkeys up here

[stone egret]

I mean I've never seen a wild bald eagle before and I never will but if I said those things should be zoo animals I would be put on a watch list by the American government

[vague bolt]

Omg seeing bald eagles irl is so cool trust

I see them every time I go to the ocean

They’re kinda funky

The solution seems to be move to the Pacific Northwest

[stone egret]

Yeah so I live in the Netherlands

[vague bolt]

Ohh yeah that makes sense

I think bald eagles are native to North America

[stone egret]

Yeah I was making a point about certain animals feeling 'exotic' enough to belong in a zoo when there's a very valid reason that you've never seen them in the wild lmao

[vague bolt]

Ohhh

Yeah okay

[nocturne heart]

Go to a petting zoo

[dusty furnace]

I think if you go to the dentist and they stab you in the gums you should be allowed to bite them

Especially if they say some bullshit like "it's because you don't floss"

[steep lava]

I see some every once and awhile here in Missouri

[boreal ermine]

This is 100% because you don’t floss or are not flossing well

Ever since I started flossing properly I haven’t had a cavity (which I used to get soooo many)

[dusty furnace]

I don't get cavities and I floss well

Being stabbed with a metal stick tends to make you...bleed

[boreal ermine]

AND my gums didn’t bleed

NAUR

They were poking HARD. If you floss well, your gums should not bleed

[dusty furnace]

And 🤓erm my gums didn't 🤓erm bleed

[boreal ermine]

I never believed that propaganda until I actually started doing it properly

U got gingivitis but go awf😍

[dusty furnace]

My dentist says I look perfect :(

[boreal ermine]

Flossing is goated. Once u start u literally can never stop it’s wild

Smth I wish I learned earlier in life😭😭

[slate veldt]

i have when i was golfing before

fucking turkey just n the course we had to wait for it to leave

[slate veldt]

i have to agree on this

because the dentist hurt less if you floss

but you have to go IN the gum

like get under there and shit

usually my bottom row of teeth at the front are inflammed and puffy and kinda bleed easily but thats lowkey cause of my perminate retainers there

its a pain to loss

floss

[crimson shell]

bro

target practice

randy johnson that bitch

[boreal ermine]

Listening to music in the shower is overrated

[slate veldt]

WHATT

[boreal ermine]

Throw a YouTube video on😩

Spy u were so quick im crine😭😭😭

[slate veldt]

😭

yt bideo is valid tho

people put music tho tcause its hard to throw on a yt video

sometikes

[boreal ermine]

Another hot take but I can’t stand Chappell roan

[slate veldt]

not hot

[boreal ermine]

Bitches and moans about paparazzi when she signed up to be a famous singer

That’s like applying for a barista job at Starbucks and getting upset why so many ppl keep asking u to make them drinks

there’s a clip of lady Gaga from early 2010s where she’s like “celebrities that complain about paparazzi are fuckin lying. spend some money on security, they never find me”

we never see Beyoncé, Adele, frank ocean etc

She def likes being famous and loves to complain about it

[ornate quiver]

didn't lady gaga's security beat up a 16 year old

[boreal ermine]

🤣🤣😭probably

[ornate quiver]

i think what's tough for chappell is how old she was when she got famous

a lot of singers get famous when they're like 20 or younger

she got used to life without fame

[boreal ermine]

Didn’t she say she tried to get famous for 10 years and then the last thing she did before giving up was the thing that did it

Now she’s bitching about it

Gasp! You tried to be famous and now you’re famous?

[vague bolt]

I think Chappell is calling out the bullshit of the industry and refusing to let it make her a permanent servant of the public eye

[ornate quiver]

i think she likes fame and people listening to her music not people hiding in bushes taking pics of her

that said it's dumb to confront them

[boreal ermine]

Oh please paparazzi is so lazy now. She screamed at paparazzi at an award show🧍🏻‍♀️

Compared to times before, when paparazzi would actually stalk Celebs from the moment they left their house

[vague bolt]

Yeah they were being awful to her

[slate veldt]

doesnt she like “not do politics” but her thing is… being political?

i dont rmb

[vague bolt]

Hot take: celebrities are entitled to boundaries

Including Chappell roan screaming at paparazzi

[boreal ermine]

It’s literally her job. To be famous. And having fans/paparazzi is part of the job. That’s the part she hates

It’s not like a princess diana situation bffr

But the real spill is that she likes it

She just likes complaining

[vague bolt]

Right but having paparazzi and fans that consistently cross your boundaries is not okay

She’s actively demanding change in the industry

[boreal ermine]

She got a woe is me complex

Poor little millionaire🥀🥀🥀

She wouldn’t have survived the 2000s paparazzi

Times are sooooo different now

[ornate quiver]

diana wouldve survived the paparazzi if she wore a seatbelt

[slate veldt]

BRUH

[dusty furnace]

Damn

[vague bolt]

I just don’t think it’s fair to say “deal with the abuse, it’s in the job description” because the way parasocial fans and paparazzi behave is NOT normal at all

I’m saying this as a twenty one pilots fan btw

[boreal ermine]

“She’s being abused by paparazzi!” Meanwhile she’s bitching out 3 people jus standing there taking pics

Saying chappel is abused is diminishing the real abuse that happens in Hollywood tbh

[vague bolt]

Nah

Saying Chappell deals with abusive paparazzi and fans does not take away from others

It’s not a competition

[boreal ermine]

There’s so many celebrities we never see

[dusty furnace]

Based Clancy?

[boreal ermine]

She’s literally going where the paparazzi is

We never see Beyoncé. Where’s zendaya? Adele??

[dusty furnace]

I agreed with Farrah originally but Clancester makes a good point

[boreal ermine]

Chappel Roan:

[real briar]

If the paparazzi are using flash i don't see how u wouldn't find that abrasive

[ornate quiver]

idk if chappell ever wanted this level of fame

[boreal ermine]

Then she shouldn’t go to fashion week, where flash photography is everywhere🧍🏻‍♀️

She’s the victim of her own decisions

[ornate quiver]

there's a big difference between mitski level fame and her fame

you don't really choose to be as famous as she is

[boreal ermine]

Wym she literally said she wanted it so bad?

She tried for 10 years

[vague bolt]

Chappell is also not the first person to be mean to people crossing her boundaries, I think it’s only an issue for some people because she’s a queer woman. If she was a straight, cis man, I think people would praise her for standing her ground but that’s another convo and I have to go take a final

[boreal ermine]

Nah she just insufferable

Who cares about who she’s sexually attracted to

[dusty furnace]

A surprising amount of people

[boreal ermine]

Not me and my opinion is the same so

I saw the video. It was literally 6 people standing a respectful distance away from her

Chappel Groan

[ornate quiver]

can you link where she said this

she said she never dreamt about fame

[boreal ermine]

She was on jimmy fallon

Now she’s gonna be all over my feed😭😭😭

She’s more than welcome to go back to being a private citizen

SO many celebs have done this

[crimson shell]

Idk anything about this I only listen to the king of Mexico 2SLIMEY!

https://tenor.com/view/2slimey-shrimp-okc-underground-bass-gif-5684681179583056671

[undone lake]

Japan is overrated go to Italy instead

[steep lava]

I like her music but she seems like a total b

unlike Sabrina Carpenter who I can't stand the music of but she seems pretty cool

[undone lake]

Dexter is ALSO OVERRATED it's only good because of the memes

[dusty furnace]

Based

So tired of the
Thing 😐
Thing, Japan 😍🤩🤗🥰😱😱😱

[steep lava]

I do like Japan though

[vague bolt]

“Japan is living in 2050” and it’s a normal ass thing

[steep lava]

mostly because I want to go to the Godzilla hotel in Tokyo

[vague bolt]

I do want to see Japan geology tho

[undone lake]

Based? Based on what

Joking

[dusty furnace]

Japan is turning footsteps into electricity 😀

[steep lava]

true

anywho, Godzilla hotel is cool

[undone lake]

Why can't we just drop the sun on Japan again

[vague bolt]

I need to go to mt Fuji like yesterday

[silver grove]

excuse me??

[undone lake]

That's cool tho

[steep lava]

and look at this themed room in the hotel

[undone lake]

Imagine seeing that middle of the night

[steep lava]

I would be ecstatic

[undone lake]

I'd be horrified

[vague bolt]

Lowkey me too

[dusty furnace]

I'm actually really into Godzilla as a franchise so I'd be down

[dusty furnace]

And no let's not do this the citizens don't deserve it

[steep lava]

Godzilla is hands down my favorite franchise

[vague bolt]

Hot take LA is overrated

[undone lake]

I like power rangers more

[undone lake]

Okay.

[dusty furnace]

It's underhated if anything. I'm a native Californian and I never enjoyed going

[steep lava]

soon to be 39

[vague bolt]

I’ve been there once and wanted to leave immediately

[steep lava]

then a little after that should be movie #40

https://tenor.com/view/goddzilenka-gif-13542501543557307686

[undone lake]

Ziller

[limpid tiger]

WHAT

[slate veldt]

LMAO BRUH

[boreal ermine]

i stopped watching after it became more about s*x than murder

[limpid tiger]

do you remember what season you stopped

[hidden breach]

You forgot murd*r

Dexter was one of the reasons I wanted to work in csi and forensics

[hidden breach]

LA is miserable. San Diego is 💯

[dusty furnace]

San Diego sucks 55% less ass than LA

[boreal ermine]

San Diego is AMAZINGGG

Los Angeles is tough but if you’re a specific type of person it’s soooo fun

Orange County is also FABULOUS

SoCal in general carries

[dusty furnace]

very much depends where you are in orange county

Laguna Niguel is very pretty, Tustin not so much

[boreal ermine]

U mean Laguna beach?

Niguel is inland

Coastal Orange County peak

Also Catalina island is amazing

[dusty furnace]

i do not

[hidden breach]

Myth should have grey and poeticle make the tiktok videos for the server

With full creative license... for better or worse

[boreal ermine]

Lmfao I know niguel is in OC🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭

I’m saying it’s rly not the place I’d name first when talking about pretty places over there

[dusty furnace]

underrated gem imo
i spent a weekend up there just going to beaches and getting sun damage and eating indian food

10/10

[dusty furnace]

also I just want to say this is one of the ideas ever

[boreal ermine]

No beaches in Laguna niguel tho

U went to Laguna beach or Dana point

I have a friend who lives there too it’s beautiful hills

[dusty furnace]

Without doxxing myself too much I can tell you I stayed in the city of Laguna Niguel and drove the few miles to the beaches every few days

[crimson shell]

is it doxxing if it was a vacation

[dusty furnace]

I'm within an hour of the place so maybe

Idk

[crimson shell]

now thats more doxxing

[dusty furnace]

4. 4 miles to monarch Beach and 8 to laguna

[dusty furnace]

An hour in California could be 2 miles or 20 miles

Traffic sucks ass

[crimson shell]

oh i forgot yall had traffic

[dusty furnace]

The worst

[crimson shell]

I stayed here once

[dusty furnace]

No clue where that is but yay :D

[crimson shell]

camogli, northwest italy

[dusty furnace]

There's a hot take
I like American greaseball pizza over Italian pizza

[crimson shell]

mightve been one of my favorite vacations

[boreal ermine]

Yes it’s 15 min from Laguna beach or Dana point🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😭

Orange County is tiny so every little city boundary counts

[dusty furnace]

City boundaries are for insufferable semantics nerds /j

[boreal ermine]

Newport Beach is fire too

[dusty furnace]

To me everything is either
Los Angeles
Inland Empire
Orange County

[boreal ermine]

And San Diego

[dusty furnace]

And San Diego

Apart from that I have no sense of city boundaries

[crimson shell]

to me its just la or sd

[boreal ermine]

Ranking:
SD
OC
LA
IE

[dusty furnace]

Ooh finally a real hot take

I think SD and oc should be tied for first actually, send IE further to hell

[crimson shell]

is it that bad

[boreal ermine]

I fear u might be right

[dusty furnace]

Pretty bad

[rare oasis]

artstyle corporate memphis is horrible

[steep lava]

I think we should kill poor people

Might be a hot take idk

[slate veldt]

thats a very hot tale

takw

[delicate crag]

i think we should be more liberal with bans on here

[rare oasis]

can you elaborate

[rapid basin]

this is certainly a take

[rapid basin]

spy how did you fuck it up twice

[slate veldt]

bush

[steep lava]

Dw I'm poor as well

[steep lava]

I dunno, thought it would be a hot take

And as you can see it was hot

[boreal ermine]

I think staff is pretty appropriate with their bans, at least in game

[slate veldt]

nah

we gonna start banning EVERYONE

You look at me wrong?

BANNED

you speak ?

BANNED

youBREATHE???

IP BANNED

AND UR PC HAS A VIRUS JOW

YOU BLINK?

your pc is on fire now

and youre banned

[boreal ermine]

We should host a villains event for chillzone. All previous banned players allowed back one final time in the hunger games

[rare oasis]

this is a great idea

[rapid basin]

we are NOT bringing back icy

[pallid gale]

U guys remember Bofa

[rapid basin]

Uh

no

[rare oasis]

bofa deez nuts

[steep lava]

who's that

[pallid gale]

Thanks Oscarn

[crimson shell]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVUW-R8krwb

Instagram

Is this accurate for Irving

[dusty furnace]

There are so SO many Boba spots and associated cafés in and around Irvine

Other than that idrk cuz I don't live there

[slate comet]

german food is not trash

[real briar]

Yeah german food is delicious, do people say otherwise?

[steep lava]

Well duh it's goid

Don't they all eat bratwurst, pretzels and beer

[vague bolt]

pretzels are elite

idk what i would do without pretzels

[boreal ermine]

The pretzels I’ve had are so dry though and sometimes I feel like a waste of my carbs🤣🤣

But there a def worse for you snacks out there

Chocolate covered pretzels tho… dangerous

[undone lake]

British food is trash

[slate comet]

that is real

[undone lake]

The British are fear-mongered about like their food.

[vague bolt]

or peanut butter filled pretzels.....i go feral

[boreal ermine]

elite bar snack

[vague bolt]

im not old enough for that yet but i trust

got 2 more years

[steep lava]

should I share another hot take

I will do it anyway

drinking and driving should be legal as long as you promise to get into a cool car chase with the cops

https://tenor.com/view/police-chase-police-car-turn-around-escape-gif-15109378

[boreal ermine]

Wearing sandals should only be worn while at a beachy location/pool place that actually calls for them

Too many ppl wear sandals as their daily drivers to go grocery shopping and shit like that

I one time in class saw someone twiddling someone else’s charging chord under the table with their toes🤢

Keep the dogs locked AWAY

[dusty furnace]

Here is a hot take. Macaroni salad sucks

[undone lake]

What type of car we talking about here?

Like a dodge?

[crimson shell]

I’ve never heard of that

Is that like a south thing

[dusty furnace]

it's actually surprisingly common in Hawaii too but yeah. south thing

my family is from Oklahoma

[rugged fern]

This is a geographically based temperature take. In Australia sandals/thongs/flip flops are acceptable in 90% of locations all year around. If somewhere says no thongs it means it’s super fancy.

[boreal ermine]

But I live in Southern California and I still feel the same way

[rugged fern]

Maybe it’s culture then? Australia doesn’t have a lot of culture, so maybe exposed feet is it?

[boreal ermine]

🤣🤣🤣😭

[ornate quiver]

i only enter places where i can wear my one-sided thongs

[dusty furnace]

I also live in SoCal as I've mentioned and I wear sandals everywhere some days

during the "winter" (or whatever you can call it here) I just switch to sandals with socks

[vague bolt]

As a band kid, my input is that school floors are so nasty (especially the band room floor) and flip flops gross me out at school

But otherwise sure

If u want to risk getting glass in your feet be my guest

I aha e even known to wear socks and slides tho

I have been*

[boreal ermine]

The dress has never been blue and black for me

I’ve always only ever seen white and gold

[vague bolt]

i dont understand why people drink

thats my hot take

[crimson shell]

It’s fun to do with friends

I probably wouldn’t do it alone

[vague bolt]

see i dont even really get that

maybe its because im 19 and dont drink

and because my friends and i have a lot of fun w out substances