[The Path of Champions] Star Powers & Relics Community Ideas

[timber mortar]

So idk

Maybe is a using the right relics thing

With tresh i reslly like how he sinergyes with eve and plate armor relics

Giving me an excuse to use them

Nasus i think works with ....

Idk what he works with

[orchid glacier]

When things go wrong, BHR + Curator's

[sterile siren]

Not slapping on z drives?

[orchid glacier]

Fuck Z-Drive

Boring

But yes plz slap Z-Drive

[timber mortar]

Yeh i still rather tresh

[versed osprey]

he a champ nao?

[timber mortar]

Ysd

but im pretty sure that was leaker

[pallid haven]

sett samira and jack all gonna be PoC champs confirmed earlier.

[timber mortar]

Yeh he knows

[versed osprey]

guess im coming back for jackyboi

[versed osprey]

AWAKEN

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-sleepless-no-way-what-huh-gif-16247468

we still have no news of epic or new relics right?

[pallid haven]

https://tenor.com/view/nani-tomislavartz-squidward-tomislav-nani-squidward-gif-26510616

[versed osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pillar-men-awaken-my-masters-awaken-jojos-bizarre-adventure-jjba-gif-19344086

[timber mortar]

No

[versed osprey]

[versed osprey]

Does any of the relics here even match the actual Epics right now?

[versed osprey]

Only took them 4 months.

[timber mortar]

Yeh

And they are bad

[timber mortar]

Unlikely

[orchid glacier]

RETURN

FROM THE DEAD

Because I just wanna put this here like an archive keeping stuffs

Funny 4* Power Drafts for all existing champions
Start with the OG 12 champs

[timber mortar]

huh

So definitive lux version is cut her from the deck

i would say garen one could be block too

just to fuck with life

i would say annie aiming to nexus, but maybe thats too much, that said most of annie skills will target nexus due to that wording, so same effect, just maybe a little deck limited

Mf power is a very good idea.

The wording in this is weird, is round start?

That's units*

wow that makes vi good, damn!

Jhin one makes riptide batter worst

yeh, they look nice

good stuff

cool stuff too

[orchid glacier]

No round start

It's like if you spend 5 mana for a spell this round, then next round spend 7 more mana of spells to get Final Spark

It's cumulative

[timber mortar]

overall effect? then i think the wording should be "for every mana you play"
and "for every 6 card you discard"

lemme check lux wording jic

[timber mortar]

yeh

[orchid glacier]

Yeah I wrote it based on that

[timber mortar]

played implies other stuff

i think literally "after you play 12+ mana of spells, create a Final Spark" works

im gona check if thats the wording in game th

yeh, wiki wording is wrong

but past sense is used for round star andsimilar effects

cause it would literally be "create a thing for every time you did this"

and not "create a thing when you do this"

[orchid glacier]

I see

Hmm I might not edit it for now

[timber mortar]

no woriees

[versed osprey]

i was wondering where all these notifications are coming from

[timber mortar]

xD

[orchid glacier]

Fixed

Feel free to share if you guys want to

Imma cook up new stuffs

[sterile siren]

I think you dont play a skill? For mf, might be something like, when allies attack, I love tap your enemies. If you have leveleld up a champion, i go bullet time instead (just taking asols one as reference for his skies descend)

[orchid glacier]

I based it on Manasoul Student

Also "Love Tap enemies" kinda ignored the battling part

[orchid glacier]

Um

Help

(For Yi)

Pick one

Can't go Wuju Style or Meditation because both are used

Wait I forgot I can use equipment ibwlkbwkl

[orchid glacier]

Can't decide which one for Leona

[orchid glacier]

Aight finished. Taking a break

I'm being unhinged

Kai'Sa and Kayn batches of champions

[timber mortar]

i would say jhin origin wwording is more accurate

but yeh isthe sam

xD

[slender scaffold]

Can't seem to add the keyword icons, how did you do it @versed osprey ?

[versed osprey]

right click the textbox

[slender scaffold]

awesome, thanks!

[round bluff]

damn

the thread has been raised from the dead

[versed osprey]

HAHA

bro

ur old account got

hacked

or is this the same

ur now deleted user in dms

[round bluff]

ye old account got hacked

i deleted it

[versed osprey]

sadge

[versed osprey]

we'll never let this die

come here @orchid glacier

[orchid glacier]

Where did you make this

[slender scaffold]

https: //muggy8.github.io/lor-card-maker/

[round bluff]

oooh

[slender scaffold]

I've placed a space in the https: part

[orchid glacier]

Lemme chime in this looks fun

Lemme finish my HSR runs

[orchid glacier]

Also this happened when you pinged me (bottom right)

I WILL BE DONE SOON

[orchid glacier]

[versed osprey]

i am always with u

[orchid glacier]

You have to pilot the spells you cast

Looks

[versed osprey]

i give u strength

[orchid glacier]

RNG

Kekw

[versed osprey]

updated wording

no funny business with op buff spells

[round bluff]

smh

was gonna suggest using that with glorious evolution

for the funni

[versed osprey]

Warmother's Call

[round bluff]

what even are there

the actual items in league

[versed osprey]

jfc

[orchid glacier]

There's a lot

[versed osprey]

https ://u.gg/lol/ items

i hate dyno

[versed osprey]

u can change the rarity btw @slender scaffold

[slender scaffold]

oh yeah, I know.

I just wanna make Rares for now

[versed osprey]

oh u really just like rares

xd

[orchid glacier]

Must it be smth from League universe

I feel like chucking in smth from other games and make it an item/a relic/a power

[versed osprey]

the sky's the limit

[orchid glacier]

What does that even mean

[versed osprey]

gah dam

[orchid glacier]

[versed osprey]

[slender scaffold]

Epic Relic go brrr

[versed osprey]

it's a saying that basically translates to "do whatever the hell u want and don't let anyone stop u"

[orchid glacier]

Ah the idiom

BTW where do you guys get League item images

[timber mortar]

You are welcome

Tho muggy8 has most of the credit, i just did the propaganda

[orchid glacier]

Because Wiki is kinda shit

[versed osprey]

wiki

just inspect element

[timber mortar]

Wiki has good quality, just let it load

[orchid glacier]

It's not the quality but

[timber mortar]

On mobile it sucks tho

[versed osprey]

if u just open image in new tab it's 64x64

[orchid glacier]

WHY IS THIS HAPPENING

[slender scaffold]

Google image is better

[versed osprey]

the HD version is in the actual link

[slender scaffold]

scroll wheel to zoom in and out

[timber mortar]

Zoom in

[versed osprey]

in inspect element

[versed osprey]

u have a lot of hearts

[orchid glacier]

How to zoom in

Nvm I figured it out

[versed osprey]

mousewheel

[timber mortar]

@orchid glacier

Is mainly a mobile oriented page

So its a little bit worst on pc

But is still great

[versed osprey]

[timber mortar]

Always nice to see luden loce

[versed osprey]

does thermo double cast maintain the same damage

or updates with current mana

[slender scaffold]

I believe it updates with the current mana AFAIK

[versed osprey]

sadge

[slender scaffold]

So the 2nd one is always 0 damage

unless you can get that refill mana on play

[timber mortar]

Maintains damage

It would be insanely shit if not

Its already a weird card, no one would run it on jayxe decks

The second is mainly meme, but i really like the conxept of the firs tone

[slender scaffold]

Will probably my go-to relic for Braum (if he comes out in PoC) and Annie.

[versed osprey]

reminds me of slay the spire poison dagger build

[timber mortar]

Yeh, i really like poison dagger

But i believe this seems actually stronger

Since -1 damage in path is not that relevant

[orchid glacier]

Why am I like this

[slender scaffold]

That's loaded

[versed osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/frantic-studying-reading-exams-exams-week-gif-7530000

[timber mortar]

Seems interesting st least

[slender scaffold]

Like really loaded

[timber mortar]

Not gomma read all that, free palestine

[orchid glacier]

[slender scaffold]

You know what would be interesting for Frozen Heart? Reverse Debilitating Strike

[orchid glacier]

On one hand, yes
On another hand, politics in LoR server!?!?!?

[slender scaffold]

or give it Stun

and Frostbite

[timber mortar]

XD

I just really like the new iteration of the "not gonna read all that" meme

[orchid glacier]

You make it then

[versed osprey]

poppy malding

[slender scaffold]

I'll probably will

[timber mortar]

BUFF ENFEEBLING

YES

YES

[slender scaffold]

So you can't call BS on the enemy AI

[round bluff]

I am gonna be wild and meme with dumb ideas

[slender scaffold]

Hm... this seems more epic.

[versed osprey]

u forgor the image

[round bluff]

dunno what image to use lmao

so i jsut give up

[versed osprey]

here u go

[timber mortar]

that seems a bit OP

[slender scaffold]

meh, its Epic

[versed osprey]

yeah i should probs make a curse one too hmm

[orchid glacier]

What am I doing with my life

[versed osprey]

dam we skipping legendaries

[orchid glacier]

I am actually debating if that should be Legendary instead of Special

[slender scaffold]

We don't even know the power level of Legendaries and Special, but I guess they're borderline broken I think. Which is fine.

[versed osprey]

prob legs

cause special doesn't really mean stronger

like that mutator with just nexus hp

[slender scaffold]

Legendary Relic: Summon a Level 2 10/10 Fiora with 3 Kills.

[round bluff]

and double her stats

kek

[orchid glacier]

Welp

[versed osprey]

strike the weakest enemy

https://tenor.com/view/exodia-yu-gi-oh-anime-summon-gif-17959838

[slender scaffold]

[round bluff]

||yes i am a filthy blue player and I have no shame.||

[versed osprey]

How does that work tho

extra mana on top of the champ cost?

[timber mortar]

I would expect special to not be a relic rarirty

since is only for items

[round bluff]

yea

[versed osprey]

love that on ornn

[round bluff]

ikr

[timber mortar]

pink region 🤮

[orchid glacier]

I'm about to sleep so this is my last one

I will explain it further more (planning to make new cards as well)

But you probably know what it is if you play HSR

Actually

Yellow text is more accurate

I'll be back tomorrow

XD

[timber mortar]

i played hsr and i have no diea hat the fuck that is

[versed osprey]

here's how u get the HD icons btw

get that link and delete everything after .png

[orchid glacier]

It's the orb and the rope (Relics)

[versed osprey]

updated

[timber mortar]

just click on the icons dude

[versed osprey]

gives u small img

[timber mortar]

Sure? weird

[timber mortar]

I'm planning on making a more long, more elaborated and with a lot more stuff post on r/path, but for now here is a sneak peek

[empty forge]

Made this only because I freaking want more puffcap supporttt

[reef zenith]

add flashbombs too

[empty forge]

what if we put Avas text into a epic relic xD

how op would that be

[versed osprey]

would be a relic only for teemo tho

[slender scaffold]

My Legendary Relic take

and my take on Special Relic (?)

[empty forge]

i like it

Final boss draws 1 game start, nexus fucking explodes

[restive swallow]

idk

seems too weak for a legend

wait

no

nvmind

if your at asol you plant like 10 for each card in their deck?

[empty forge]

fixed typo boom

[empty forge]

:O

he'll still win probably lol

[restive swallow]

well

[empty forge]

depends how many runs you win when u get to asol

[restive swallow]

its usually at least 10

so

like 400 in asols deck

[empty forge]

os 10 x 40 rite

o sheet

[restive swallow]

yeah

nice art btw

[empty forge]

thx i got it off of legends of runeterra

[restive swallow]

broken with teemo

[empty forge]

teemo simulator

[restive swallow]

yep

[orchid glacier]

This used to be an item in LoL

Lab I mean

[orchid glacier]

Hi. This below is a sample of what I planned for the Relic I made last night (only made 1 set for now)

Bruh

My app crashed and now I didn't send anything

[orchid glacier]

Sample

[timber mortar]

I see

[orchid glacier]

I think I'm cooking something that may burn the kitchen or the opposite

[timber mortar]

I mean to start with idk what special relics would be

Maybe limited to champs, wich sounds boring buy idk

After that, it seems like you are aiming for getting better stuff than a rare relic at the price of it being semi random

Maybe is like a boon thing what you are wanting to have, that you give it to the champ

Or just outright getting a burst speed spell that grants things

Equiptment seems a bit odd

But overall the idea of "not getting this thing but instead getting one of a pool of 10 that is better than the thing"

Sounds neat

[orchid glacier]

How do you add keyword icon

[timber mortar]

btw, you wanna twist the order

the reason why the thing tosses first and then adds cards is to allow to get deep faster

You are basically getting a +2 to deep on a good deep unit, in this case a +4

[split stump]

:v

[orchid glacier]

But I'm not tossing to get Deep

This relic adds Treasure cards and then Toss so you would be tossing cards to get Treasure cards actually

[orchid glacier]

Epic worthy?

[timber mortar]

This is already top 3 epic relics

[timber mortar]

yeh, but for that, tossing kinda sucks

tossing issue is that is bad without more sinergy

andtreasure chests are kinda strong on PvP, egh in Path

you are paying a rare slot, for a champ to something that might happen in most games

[orchid glacier]

[timber mortar]

RIPTIDE THIS TIME IS PERSONAL

[versed osprey]

i've always been wishing for a lifesteal relic

that would change a lot of playstyles

could go more aggro (no blocks) with it

closest we got is gwen or a big morg

[orchid glacier]

Um

Aatrox?

And Kayn?

Legendary worthy?

[versed osprey]

magical 2 healing per hit

kill*, even

[versed osprey]

yep but sadly only teemo really loves it

wish we had cait in PoC

but i would hate to use her on trynd/sej maps lol

i forgot bard exists

[orchid glacier]

Nah I think everyone can use it

[versed osprey]

also norra is coming as confirmed by the dev vid

"confirmed"

[orchid glacier]

Yeah

Which is really nice

But they never said "when" right

[versed osprey]

they already gave an estimate date

around 6 months is what i saw

iirc

guesstimate

[orchid glacier]

So August

[versed osprey]

its on a riot comment in the sub

probs

august is also when they will start hyping arcane

cause nov arcane

[orchid glacier]

True

Imagine if Caitlyn and Jayce are gatekept by Arcane lol

[versed osprey]

im almost certain they are ngl

given the fact that they were already in 1.0

[orchid glacier]

Gimme

I want to play them

[versed osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/serves-you-right-caitlyn-kirraman-jayce-arcane-thats-what-you-get-gif-23774364

[orchid glacier]

Done for now. Might mess with it again tonight

[timber mortar]

Huh i didnt saw that, i will have tl check

This said, there is a very good chance norra gets out next patch or (most likely) with lyss

[orchid glacier]

So for some reason, it got blue text in my saved ver. so I fixed it back to yellow text

Whatever am I cooking

[orchid glacier]

Last one for today XD

[timber mortar]

ONE OF THOSE IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER

[versed osprey]

@stable atlas

[stable atlas]

yeee

[fallow smelt]

kuru kuru

[stable atlas]

imagine summoning watcher with its full cost 😄

17 kegs right?

[versed osprey]

any cards that say equal to my cost doesn't do the base cost sadly

unless specified that it is the base cost

the only thing that specifies base cost AFAIK is elder dragon's power

[stable atlas]

i mean

summon watcher with full cost

like the lastbreath mecha unit

[timber mortar]

I unironically think this would be a rare

[versed osprey]

that's not per round btw

that's worded like the jhin power

[versed osprey]

this was made with nami in mind with her almost infinite loop of champ spell casts

oh wait but that's burst at a certain level

[timber mortar]

ik, but only like, 3 champions would abuse it

Tho maybe it should just be like

drain 1 from enemy nexus

being aoe is a lot

[timber mortar]

yeh, nami wouldnt pull it

after lvl 4

lmao

[reef zenith]

Empowered is an ongoing effect, not a trigger. Think of it as a power, that if the unit has keywords disabled, Kayle would still have Double Attack if she met the requirement

That being said,
Empowered x: I have Spellshield
Would mean it has an unbreakable spellshield

[versed osprey]

yeah what about it

working as intended

[reef zenith]

So for Jak'Sho in this case, you would get a 36 power unit that deals double damage

(At minimum) I assume?

I think it would be solid if it just dealt the double

[reef zenith]

Mostly unsure if it would keep doubling because of how Empowered works

[versed osprey]

keep it doubling

the fantasy is an ever growing menace

inevitability

just like how jaksho users are in league

[restive swallow]

@versed osprey how did u make those concept relics?

[orchid glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/kururin-kuru-kuru-herta-herta-sippining-honkai-star-rail-gif-6255874111095877274

Lol

[orchid glacier]

https(:)//muggy8.github.io/lor-card-maker/

Remove the brackets ()

(This server won't allow direct link so I have to add smth)

[orchid glacier]

That's a very tall order

You need to get someone that can Manifest a Mecha-Yordle

AND you need to level up Lissandra

And your Manifest is RNG which means you need to be lucky to even hit the 6-cost Mecha

But yes, it's 17 kegs

Imagine doing that and you just target the enemy Nexus

17 Nexus HP gone

[orchid glacier]

Today's cooking

[timber mortar]

huh

[versed osprey]

i sit down on my thinking chair and think think think

[orchid glacier]

XD

[orchid glacier]

Not sure if this is Epic worthy so I set Rare

[restive swallow]

the save thing didn't work, so I took a screenshot

@versed osprey this good?

[versed osprey]

check ur downloads, should be there

doesn't show a popup for opera gx

[restive swallow]

ain't there

but

its fine

[versed osprey]

cool concept

quarter seems to be a very low value

Say this is on a 5 (average) hp unit

that's just 1 HP

half is better, it's health anyway so the scaling is weaker than that of grant power

[restive swallow]

ok

ill change

[versed osprey]

the half to the enemy nexus implies half of the quarter

which is 1/8th of the value

[restive swallow]

ok ill change

to half + quarter

thx

[versed osprey]

[versed osprey]

bruh idk why i never thought of a double attack relic LOL

[versed osprey]

check if your browser auto saves downloads on a specific folder or you have set it to select everytime

if you have select everytime on, the download popup might be getting blocked

u can change the browser settings to default auto save to downloads to fix it

[restive swallow]

I think its just a problem with my computer, since it says its not fully supported on ios

this good?

also were u the one who started this?

[versed osprey]

yis

this thread was way back in 2022

before we even got epics

[restive swallow]

damn

good idea

great idea

[versed osprey]

looks great

[restive swallow]

thx

[versed osprey]

i wish devs saw this and took ideas from it

[restive swallow]

that would be rlly cool

if they did

how about this one?

power, not relic

idk if it should be epic or not

[timber mortar]

[slender scaffold]

Double Attack is good. Always thought it was Scout-level (though that's one is Rare and has a shitty drawback)

[orchid glacier]

The save button is just for your cards/items/etc. to appear in the home screen. If you wanna download the image, click 'share' instead

[orchid glacier]

I swear I did not plan this

I just write

[timber mortar]

[slender scaffold]

Could probably reword it to like "I'm immune to negative keywords."

[timber mortar]

If only there was some current keyword that said thst

[orchid glacier]

See, there's a problem with that

If I said "negative keywords"

Then immunity only applies to Vulnerable, Can't Attack/Block, Immobile, and Ephemeral

Also Fleeting actually

The rest are not your conventional "keywords"

[slender scaffold]

purple ones are also considered negative keywords

basically anything that mikael's can cleanse I believ

[orchid glacier]

Nah it's fine

A remake is due

Ethereal Remitter power idea

[timber mortar]

If i can make a suggestion

Think not of reasons why someone would want a relic/power, but also reasons why they wouldnt want it

[timber mortar]

Also the wording here is quite odd

[orchid glacier]

I make whatever chaotic stuffs. I don't make normal stuffs

Revised Quicksilver

[slender scaffold]

Typo on Guardian's Resolve, it should be "it takes damage from me."

[versed osprey]

bruh that first strike + bounty hunter

[orchid glacier]

Bruh

Guardian's Resolve is basically:

But a Round Start effect instead

Actually

"From me"

That sounds more like "me damages the bonded ally"

[round bluff]

I CANNOT BE STOPPED

Almost

May i reword it as "I can only be stopped by frostbite and stunned"

[orchid glacier]

No

Because Quicksilver in League is an active item that can remove ANY debuffs

[round bluff]

Oh

Me with 0 league knowledge

[orchid glacier]

Well except knock ups and probably Suppression (blocks anything)

It also has a short timeframe of blocking any incoming debuffs from applying

So uh

Definitely can't be stopped by Frostbite and Stun

[orchid glacier]

Might have butchered a lot of stuffs for this GOAT

[round bluff]

Holy essay

[orchid glacier]

[timber mortar]

Resolve and demolisher sound both really cool

Tho pbby resolve would end up closer to "i cant die" than anything

[timber mortar]

Honestly all that this is making me think is that the only reason to ehy we dont have unhinged gold relics is BHR

[timber mortar]

Huh, this is neat

[orchid glacier]

Wait

Fixed

[timber mortar]

Neat

[orchid glacier]

It's a unique kind of approach

I wanna take

Additional info: You can only acquire this item when it's the 3rd item of the card or when you already have 3+ items

[orchid glacier]

Here's another one

And another one because my mind is still fresh

[timber mortar]

We decided to call them "limitations" on wiki, i honestly dont recall if that was oficial wording

But just fyi because i think is a neat word

[orchid glacier]

Understandable

[timber mortar]

Holy shit

This would be so unplayable wtf

Lmao

[orchid glacier]

Unplayable in Power Encounters XD

But

The relic is NOT a consumable

(BTW these are all HSR Curios)

Was about to make this a consumable but uh it would suck so I decided not to

[orchid glacier]

Still cooking so I don't fall asleep in school

[timber mortar]

Ik ik

[orchid glacier]

[timber mortar]

This is a lot

Also not ehat that curio does

[orchid glacier]

I know

It's difficult to translate/replicate most HSR Curio effects into PoC though

Like what should destructible objects be translated to in PoC

The only thing matters is the double rewards thing in a sense

[timber mortar]

My point was that i can see it being a item that duplicates items effects on a unit

Or a relic that makes you get 2 card rewards in exchange of twice the gold and 2 rewards from chest-nodes

[orchid glacier]

But why would you want more cards

[timber mortar]

You wouldnt

But you would want more gold

And more chest rewards

I considered also giving 2 items but pbby is too much

[orchid glacier]

A pretty straightforward one

A simple, direct gold income

I think I burnt the kitchen

[reef zenith]

Best relic in game. Combos with BHR and thins deck.

[orchid glacier]

Ayy

I just think people deserve a "skip battle reward cards" thingy and what do you know

[reef zenith]

Path is balanced around the fact that rewards kind of suck

[orchid glacier]

The funniest part is that's exactly its effect in its own game

[orchid glacier]

Real and true

[orchid glacier]

What I mean BTW

[orchid glacier]

Also

That + BHR + either HoG or The Collector

If you put HoG, it's a 100% Gold instead of 50%

If you put The Collector, it's a flat 100G * 2 instead of flat 50G * 2

[reef zenith]

One BHR is enough, third relic is flex

[orchid glacier]

Yeah

[orchid glacier]

Last cooking

[timber mortar]

Neat

[timber mortar]

Neat

[versed osprey]

they blueballed me so hard

[orchid glacier]

Oh new patch notes is out huh

[past dune]

hello

[versed osprey]

[versed osprey]

where u getting these images/ideas?

[timber mortar]

iirc is honkai stair rail stuff

but i dont recall some of them

[orchid glacier]

Remove the brackets ()
https(:)//game8.co/games/Honkai-Star-Rail/archives/411344

[orchid glacier]

From different SU DLCs

[timber mortar]

yeh, i only played first one

[restive swallow]

epic?

[potent badger]

true could be brought down to rare

gave it epic mostly cuz of the scout equipment but the odds of getting that arent super high

[orchid glacier]

[versed osprey]

rito has shied out rng (percentage) things so far

i wonder if they will ever add any percentage based stuff

[orchid glacier]

Epic worthy?

[versed osprey]

im assuming that's {Power} right

what happens if you play diana with leona support

diana gives all allies nightfall

and it's always daybreak when u summon ravhun

[slender scaffold]

more OP version

[round bluff]

Whats the website for that again

For custom relic designs

[slender scaffold]

https://muggy8.github.io/lor-card-maker/

[slender scaffold]

I like to think of Special Relics as something you always have and can be put on any slot regardless of rarity, but at the same time they can't be used on certain challenges (Weeklies and Monthlies).

[round bluff]

Thats fair

[round bluff]

I had a dumb idea inspired by this.

All enemy encounters have -1 starting power and all units have -10/+10. Your units lose formidable

Whenver you draw or play a card, the Foe discards the top card of their deck

[slender scaffold]

Sounds OP

[round bluff]

Time to force mill on every playthrougj

Should still be fine vs liss

-10 shouldnt be anyrhing too detrimental for liss overstatted units

[slender scaffold]

I don't think its a relic that should be readily available since people will be using it on non-5 star adventures.

[round bluff]

Ah

True

[slender scaffold]

Also -10/+10 is a nightmare on Galio

[round bluff]

Would be fun

But hey

U can also slap formidable relic to make it op

Wait

It cant happen reee

[slender scaffold]

Lots of investment tbh

[round bluff]

There we go

No formidable allowed

Force mill plan

[past dune]

Definitely powerful but complex to manage for minimal excitement. It's mostly just a complex way to give units stats when you play them.

I like the theme you're going for, and Daybreak/Nightfall are tracking-heavy by nature; so doing both at once and adding a lot of little buffs/refils on them is a high cognitive load on top of a high cognitive load. I'm not sure how I'd make a "cycle of day and night" theme work myself, it's a very hard concept to execute with daybreak/nightfall in a satisfying way.

[past dune]

If you flip this I think it's very cool. All enemies get stronger and you gain more rewards.

[orchid glacier]

This gives me some thoughts to ponder about. I'll think about it

The concept of day and night would be difficult to execute for sure maybe I'll try something simple, yet out of the box

[slender scaffold]

Easily done! But will have to wait till I get back on my PC. Gonna make more Relic difficulty modifiers for fun.

[orchid glacier]

[past dune]

Simple but out of the box is great

[orchid glacier]

(Yes, I have seen your OP ver. IDK how to feel about that though)

I should probably

Get some greatly timed SS from various games

For more inspiration

[timber mortar]

Oh, tjey allowed it

[timber mortar]

Granting lifesteal already is epic worth, i still believe this is a lot

[slender scaffold]

Since we're here, I wanna use this for a custom deck to contain it 😄

Thoughts?

Shamelessly pinging @past dune since you have the most experience here, if you can drop your thoughts if you have 😄 I'd appreciate 😄

[versed osprey]

@slender scaffold did that conversation earlier really spark a vladimir deck build for u

[slender scaffold]

mhm

Crimson Pact II might be a tad too strong IMO though. Ichor stacks will be a pain

at the same time, we do have that ichor epic power to doubledown

[past dune]

Oh I really like the first star power! That's a lot of fun. Dreamy outputs (makes you wonder just how insane the value from it can get if things go well) open-ended build-around that will work with a lot of natural TPOC cards and interactions (units take damage and survive all the time), works for Vlad's core self-damaging strategy. Great stuff.

I'd use the second star power to help Vlad level up. It can be very hard to level him up otherwise. Granting regen at round start is too slow and unimpactful for that. Giving him a 0-cost Transfusion each round could be interesting and thematic. Giving Transfusion an item as a champion level reward (like how nami's champ spell is given burst, or Tibbers on Annie is given -2 cost)could be used to boost the power of Transfusion if need be.

Making the lass star power curse oriented seems a bit odd to me. Cool, but not really the core vlad fantasy (despite the theme). I'd want to develop it in another way as the third star power. I'd definitely try it out though if it was shown to me in a playtest, it's possible it plays great.

[slender scaffold]

Awesome! I'll probably shift the powers around like 1 star to 2 star and the free Transfusions on 1/3 Stars. Thank you!

[past dune]

Welcome. Just make sure the 3rd star is worth going to. The 2nd star power is always worth going to for the free mana gem, so it doesn't have to be super strong

The 1st star has to establish a good play experience right away so people want to take the champ further. The third has to be a cool worthy goal. The 2nd largely takes care of itself, you just don't want it to look lame. It's usually good to pick a simple functional effect for the 2nd star power that fixes a problem with the core strategy, OR something that looks really fancy but ultimately isn't that strong

this is a pretty sweet design overal, I would have definitely thought of it as playtest-worthy.

[slender scaffold]

I just learned a lot from that feedback, thank you!

[past dune]

My pleasure. :)

[orchid glacier]

I'd like the 3* power to make it so that your units are more tanky and can take even more DMG

The 2* power could be something like "Round Start: Deal 1 to all allies and grant them +0|+1" like the enemy mutation except it doesn't ping enemies

But in that case, your 1* power might be...... OP

[orchid glacier]

BTW

A starter deck starts with 9 different cards * 2 = 18 cards

But you have 10 different cards here

I'd suggest not to have Aurok because Vlad's playstyle revolves around self-DMG (taking your star powers into acc, self-DMG + buff)...... not constant enemy ping enough to make use of his stuns

Red-Barbed Razormace is interesting but like Dan said, it's not part of Vlad's core theme. I feel like there's no reason to have a Ichor-inflicting unit if

1. It's the only unit that can inflict Ichor (which unfortunately it is)
2. You can't continuously and consistently stack Ichor's cost and DMG

I have no idea if Kato The Arm is ever good here but a huge swing with OW after self-DMG buff sounds interesting

But for it to be a 5-cost might be detrimental because you'd want to drop him early so the next turn can be used to drop the unit you wanna swing with

Maybe an Ancient Coin on Kato would help

Crimson Curator with either Studded Leather or Giant's Belt should be enough. He doesn't need both

[slender scaffold]

Actually the reason why I included Red-Barbed Razormace is to offer alternatives to the deck with Burn-like style Noxus, similar to the Ichor power - of which I'm in the process of changing them right now

[orchid glacier]

I think overall this custom-made deck and powers are

okay?

A lot of interesting things but you are making Vlad doing too many different things at once

[slender scaffold]

I think that's much better and suitable for PoC for various playstyles, no?

[orchid glacier]

Thematically speaking, no

[slender scaffold]

Anyway, here's an update Starter Deck and Powers.

Also Level 4 should add this to Transfusion.

[orchid glacier]

I think that looks better even though you still have Aurok

Honestly in what situation does one plays him though

[slender scaffold]

Aurok helps with CC, Vlad has his way to ping and with Stress Test Transfusion (you can Deal 1 to an enemy and give one ally +2/+2)

Blade's Edge + Tranfusion (w/ Stress Test) should help stun key units if you need to.

@orchid glacier give me a champion, I wanna make a deck/power for PoC for them

[orchid glacier]

Smh I love doing that myself

Malphite

[slender scaffold]

Okay, challenge. You give me one, I give you one.

[orchid glacier]

OK

[slender scaffold]

Go make one for Akshan

[orchid glacier]

OK

[orchid glacier]

Q: Why do you not include Crimson Disciple?

[slender scaffold]

too obvious

I wanted to leave that one out intentionally, alongside his key landmark

[orchid glacier]

Q: Do you think Death Lotus would synergize with Vlad well

[slender scaffold]

Death Lotus, definitely - but at the same time, I rather give players a degree of control. Death Lotus is very conditional and you can risk losing your board in the process.

[orchid glacier]

Q: Why not Reveler's Feast

[slender scaffold]

Focus Speed

[orchid glacier]

Q: Crimson Awakener. Yes or nah

[slender scaffold]

I considered Crimson Awakener, but I wanted a different unit for Vlad's deck that can offer something else. I went with Kato

[orchid glacier]

Q: Aurok swapped with Arrel. Yes or nah

End of Q

[slender scaffold]

Arrel would be an interesting choice, not gonna lie. Ever since she was removed from Samira's deck.

In the end, I believe Aurok would offer much more opportunities than Arrel.

Now the question is... should I add Chip to Malphite's deck?

[orchid glacier]

Yes

[slender scaffold]

wait, wasn't Malphite in old Lab of Legends?

[orchid glacier]

Exactly

[slender scaffold]

Sad that the new items aren't in the site yet. Sorcerer's Tower would go hard on Malph

[orchid glacier]

Which one is that

[slender scaffold]

Round Start: Refill your spell mana.

Common Item for landmarks

[orchid glacier]

I found it lol

The Hextech one

[slender scaffold]

Nice! Gonna stuff it here somewhere

oh I just have to rpess the refresh riot data

[slender scaffold]

Actually hard to think of a 1 star power for Malphite.

I definitely don't wanna do the summon "Rockfall Path" like the enemy though.

[slender scaffold]

@orchid glacier

[orchid glacier]

Terraforming is that very old rare landmark power's name

Anyway I'll be back

[slender scaffold]

Well, I have to draw inspiration somewhere. Also okay, GL on your Akshan!

[orchid glacier]

(I'm in school)

[slender scaffold]

Had to clarify Terraforming II

This one should work better with the Supple Stone Power, of which I have yet to encounter

Though with Starforged on Malphite and at 2 Stars, you can drop him immediately at turn 1 with that power. Which may or may not be intentional...

oh wait, no nvm. It's play, not summon. We're good on that front.

[orchid glacier]

Bruh I'm stuck at smth

So I don't have time or opportunity to make the star powers

Need to finish it first

[slender scaffold]

Skill Issue

Take your time no, absolutely not in a hurry anyway

[orchid glacier]

Finished. Akshan is honestly difficult and I tried not to embellish what he's intended to be played as but uh I guess this is it?

@slender scaffold

[slender scaffold]

Interesting, it's very straightforward and safest design I can also think of Akshan, his main identity revolving around Warlord's Palace/Warlord's Hoard and his powers ensures you'll always get it. Though I do believe he'll be struggling to play around until he can get his just rewards from those landmarks, I still think those are actually fine.

[orchid glacier]

Yeah

If anything, I think Akshan relies on buffs from the Warlord's Palace/Hoard

Also a bit of removal with 2* power's help

[slender scaffold]

Though I think you can discount it to 0 cost.

It's a -1 discount Slow spell. We PoC players knows we hate slow spells

Thoughts on my Malph?

[orchid glacier]

I'll let you know later

[orchid glacier]

Mentor is the only problem here because I don't really see how an SP +2|+2 works with the current setup. I might as well swap him out for Startipped Peak

And your 1* and 3* powers are quite RNG reliant in a way that you require landmarks in hand or a way to draw/summon them

Without landmarks, the buff might as well just not exist which could be a problem

Could be compensated with the 2* power summoning 2 landmarks

But I feel like

There's still the problem of acquiring landmarks the easy way especially if deck drafting doesn't go well

In conclusion: I think the deck is fine but the star powers are not quite strong in a sense that it makes winning easier

[slender scaffold]

I think at 3 star though, they give out massive buffs since it's the unit + copies of it everywhere that you have.

[orchid glacier]

Aight suggest a champ

I'm bored. Need smth to do

[slender scaffold]

UHM

Braum

And give me one too

[slender scaffold]

ping

[orchid glacier]

Trundle

I'm playing PoC rn

[slender scaffold]

Gotcha. Trundle it is

[orchid glacier]

I picked the most boring ass champ IMO

[slender scaffold]

We'll see if I can make the troll fancy

[slender scaffold]

@orchid glacier First Iteration. Unsure about 2 Star Power, but it should work fine with 1 and 3 Stars.

and yes, that's Troll Scavenger with Scout

Also makes Trundle a good canditate for that Formidable Relic.

Though I'm not playing or leaning towards Trundle's Behold mechanic

maybe the deck is a little bit too optimized, but then again - there's little support for trundle's behold archetype. Wondering if there's some other stuff I can play around.

[orchid glacier]

Hi I slept cuz' I was sleepy and it was 10:30 p.m. anyways

I think that deck is doomed

Face of the Old Ones is your only mana ramp source

Yet the deck has so much high cost cards even with Nomad Augur

Hmm I couldn't think of anything that can improve the deck TBH

[slender scaffold]

It's gonna be really hard early on with les than 2 Star. Troll Gifts however gives out massive buffs at a minimum of +3/+4 with Regen stacks

So at the very least, you can hold out early on with massive stat stick units.

[orchid glacier]

Imma just let it be for now

[slender scaffold]

Give me another champ

[orchid glacier]

BTW Troll Calling is uh

Very gimmicky

[orchid glacier]

Taric

[slender scaffold]

It is, but it gives incentive on stacking keywords

If you get Sharing is Caring, it's an autowin (maybe)

Since I noticed majority on Trundle units are Regen and Overwhelms.

[slender scaffold]

@orchid glacier

Quick change on Bravado to make sure it applies "you've targeted"

[orchid glacier]

Yeah I have ideas for the powers but holy IDK about his deck

[slender scaffold]

bruh, 2 star and 3 star for infinite power. Though I think 2 star is a bit complicated, or probably reworded to something.

[orchid glacier]

Not really

[slender scaffold]

+1 Starting Mana.
When an ally gains Health or is Healed, grant them Power for the same amount. (excluding auras).

[orchid glacier]

Nah I think I liked mine better

The wording "same amount" rubs me in the wrong way even if it still means the same

[slender scaffold]

Odd choice for Lonely Poro though, maybe Yadulski Snowdog or Stalking Wolf?

Q. Swap Take Heart for Here to Help?

[orchid glacier]

I have both

[slender scaffold]

Okay. Q. Why both?

[orchid glacier]

2* synergy

[slender scaffold]

I felt you could squeeze Bull Elnuk somewhere there

[orchid glacier]

Also Braum's playstyle has a thing about taking DMG then get crazy buffs in it

[slender scaffold]

Also Regen aura on 3 Star is rather loaded. The round end heal becomes an aura Regeneration, and now grants +1/+1 to at least two units (+2/+2 if you have one unit I assume)

I think it can remain at +0/+2 while still giving the round end buff, or rather +0/+3 and Regen aura without the round end buff.

[orchid glacier]

Am thinking of these two for Lonely Poro but what if T1 you have two 1|4 Poros

[slender scaffold]

that's just me though

I was thinking Unscarred Reaver too, easily becoming the key card for Braum's deck.

[orchid glacier]

I'm just putting Lonely Poro simply because Braum loves Poro

Yes Mighty Poro exists but

[slender scaffold]

Lonely Poro is either a block fodder or a cut

[orchid glacier]

"Block fodder" would

[slender scaffold]

Other than that, that's all my feedback The deck looks like it can just go crazy overtime.

[orchid glacier]

OK what if 3* power just heals your own Nexus as Round End effect

[slender scaffold]

eh, nobody likes healing their nexus

[orchid glacier]

B-But "Wtf is Lifesteal" moment

[slender scaffold]

I feel Braum having focus on sturdy units is better than keeping your nexus alive. Block and prevent damage from your Nexus.

[orchid glacier]

Yeah

Just that I already gave Regen

[slender scaffold]

meh, I think it's okay. Would have preferred straighout Health buffs rather than Regen though.

Thoughts on my Taric? 😄

[orchid glacier]

What if I give an ally Tough for 1 round

Mikahil's Blessing = automatically broken

[slender scaffold]

It was either that or Blessings of Targon (Grant an ally +3/+3). I went with Mikhael for utility and minor buff.

[orchid glacier]

[slender scaffold]

Since majority of the deck already grants bonuses.

[slender scaffold]

Wouldn't Regeneration kick in before that Round End?

[orchid glacier]

I thought Power comes first before card Regen

[slender scaffold]

The regen feels like an aura.

so I'm not so sure.

[orchid glacier]

The Regen granting is an aura, but the effect of the Regen is not instantaneous

[slender scaffold]

I mean, it works if it's intended, then it's good.

[orchid glacier]

I'll settle with that for now

As for the deck

You know, I think the reason I didn't put Unscarred Reaver is because she would be 5 HP or 6 HP and that's kinda OP

[slender scaffold]

Pretty much yeah, but it also depends on her item upgrade. If she has an overwhelm item, then she's gonna be pretty strong.

[orchid glacier]

I think a pretty difficult to kill 1 drop is still really strong even without OW

[slender scaffold]

If it's anything else, she won't be as strong as intended. But then again, you can get Overwhelm in multiple ways via relics

[orchid glacier]

Yup

Mega-buff Omen Hawk maybe

[slender scaffold]

Go Yadulki instead of Omen Hawk

Omen Hawk too overused

[orchid glacier]

What if I go for smth expensive

[slender scaffold]

I always try to add something expensive for the deck, a game changer or a game ender.

[orchid glacier]

Hmm

[slender scaffold]

That can work IMO

or Ember Maiden

but she's a cheap unit

[orchid glacier]

Nah

What is the Stress Test spell icon item

[slender scaffold]

I dunno, but I used it for my Vlad's transfusion back then.

[orchid glacier]

Riot adding too many items and IDK what some of them does

[slender scaffold]

Always fun, with the exception of Thieves' Tools

Nab is good if you want it. Nab is bad if they gave it to you without your consent.

[orchid glacier]

Adjusted:
Lonely Poro -> Crystalline Stormraptor
Mighty Poro Colossal Hammer -> Dragon's Tooth

[slender scaffold]

interesting, Entrancing Lure.

Dragon's Tooth on Mighty Poro is scary.

Braum with CSF is gonna be a thing, he can generate Mighty Poros and his Take Heart can generate Mighty Poros

You'll need to constantly clear the board.

[orchid glacier]

I mean

I think Colossal Hammer might be too broken

6|6 or 6|7 Might Poros with OW

[slender scaffold]

oh, it's not bad in the slightest. It's just funny to think about it.

[orchid glacier]

True

[slender scaffold]

Mighty Poros with Flashbomb Satchels or Special Delivery

and it suddenly becomes a trap deck

[orchid glacier]

I mean

Yes

But I'd let players draft it instead of getting it from the get-go

[slender scaffold]

I think you can give the rare item upgrade to something else and give them maybe Coralcrush Gauntlets (+1/+0 with Brash) or Wanderer's Blessing

but either way, it still works currently and looks fun

[orchid glacier]

XD

OK now new champ

No Freljord plz my brain dies on them

[slender scaffold]

Go make... Quinn

Give me a champ too

[orchid glacier]

Not fun just the two of us doing this

Uh IDK. GP?

[slender scaffold]

Barrels incoming!

If anyone else wants to join in, ping either one of us to give you a challenge champion and make it through https ://muggy8.github.io/lor-card-maker/

[orchid glacier]

BTW, have this for GP if you want (yes I made it)

[slender scaffold]

Sounds really strong, but I might create a variant of it without the Knock 'Em Down.

[orchid glacier]

Kk

[slender scaffold]

@orchid glacier GP here

[orchid glacier]

What is the For The Fallen spell icon item

[slender scaffold]

Give allies +1/+1 this round.

[orchid glacier]

Ah okay

Mobalytics really just went total shit because wtf is this

(I'm there to get card arts)

Also for some reason, Blinding Assault is in Chinese and while that is my mother tongue so I don't mind, MY SETTINGS ARE IN ENGLISH HOLY MOLY

[slender scaffold]

just get the art from lol wiki

this new custom lor maker can read .webp files thankfully

[orchid glacier]

Nah here's fine

I'm getting card art for star powers anyways

Birb icon BEEEEEEEEEG

[orchid glacier]

Yeah, my brain is dead on Quinn I got no idea

[slender scaffold]

That actually looks fine. not gonna lie.

[restive swallow]

yeah

I agree

[round bluff]

@orchid glacier do diego kek

[orchid glacier]

?

[timber mortar]

do diego kek

( i believe they are asking you to make fan version of viego)

[round bluff]

Ye

[orchid glacier]

I know. I was trolling with the question mark

(Except I don't when you made the typo and I read from notif bar and only realized you edited it when I opened the app)

[orchid glacier]

Oh

R.I.P.

[orchid glacier]

I'm close to sleeping so this will have to do (tentative)

@round bluff

[timber mortar]

Huh

Didnt they basically killed it 2 years ago?

[orchid glacier]

Nah

If we are talking about shutting down the website

It just happened

[gray wagon]

my ornn power

it would ideally have more allies that improvise in his starting deck

his deck would be something like this

not sure how much region limitation impacts poc decks

[slender scaffold]

Whoops, sorry wrong ping

@raw pivot

[raw pivot]

very nice, tho very easy to get enlightened lol (which im not complaining)

[slender scaffold]

It may or may not be, depending on how you can manage your hand during the round.

[slender scaffold]

@merry vault

Minor tweak for Bloom in Death II, now shuffles two copies of them into your deck instead of one.

[merry vault]

How are ya supposed to go deep when constantly filling the deck?
I know he's not a "a deep champ" but he's meant to support that archetype.

[slender scaffold]

Because killing your own units is one other way to level up Maokai

[merry vault]

also at lvl 1 0* you'll still mill yourself

[slender scaffold]

Also triggering Deep is not a level-up condition for him.

[merry vault]

Like I said, yes and yes, but he's meant to support deep

Like, rn rolling Rek'Sai with Pyke is awesome, and so should rolling Naut with Maokai. With this it ain't it.

[slender scaffold]

I do like to think that Maokai PoC is not meant to support Deep, but a standalone deck by himself. But also yes, at level 1 0*, you can mill yourself

So Maokai PoC would synergize better with other SI champs like Kalista/Viego who involves killing other units rather than Naut.

[merry vault]

Ye but why kill synergy with Naut

easiest solution is to just make the copying part happen only when you're already deep lol