What are his powers tho
#[The Path of Champions] Star Powers & Relics Community Ideas
orchid glacier
Is there a consensus of how many common/rare items a deck has?
sterile siren
10 upgrades in total
orchid glacier
What are his powers tho
Already have it but I might need to change it up later
Yeah but
How many common
And how many rare
sterile siren
7 common 3 rare
orchid glacier
OK
sterile siren
With 2 cards getting 2 commons
orchid glacier
Hmm
But I see that
In Annie for example
Actually, let's use Bard
Bandle Commando has Phage and Warding Charm (1 rare, 1 common)
Starlight Stag has Nomad and Sabre (also 1 rare, 1 common)
sterile siren
6 7 8 are rare upgrades for sure
sterile siren
Ye
sterile siren
Dunno
sterile siren
I think phage is almost a guarenteed one
orchid glacier
I can't remember if Health Potion is a thing in deck upgrades
sterile siren
Uh
orchid glacier
OK
K done I supposed
R.I.P. too small
Guess I'll use my crop tool
(Yes, I went for a visual approach)
(Also yes, I suck)
Ah
I forgot about the +1 Starting Mana
Galio - Deck List & Upgrades + Star Powers Idea
(There we go)
sterile siren
True
tulip hound
its sadge that formidable is a neglected archetype by rito
Self damage archetype:
versed osprey
it increases cost*
i forgot to add this
reef zenith
Power to encourage actually adding cards to your deck + Chime / Boon synergy:
Round Start: Plant 1 Chime on random cards in your deck for every 3 cards that started the game in your deck
If anyone has an idea for a Mysterious Portal one that's actually balanced, please share.
sterile siren
The first time you play a created unit each round, shuffle a mysterious portal in the top 4 cards of your deck
🤔
tulip hound
The first time you play a created unit each round, shuffle a mysterious portal i...
The create a fleeting copy in hand relic and a 0 cost unit go brrrr
orchid glacier
Sera in PoC when
Oh right almost forgot
Encore (0-cost Fast):
Stun all enemies, then grant all allies +2|+2. Rally
orchid glacier
True
sterile siren
Encore seems out of flavor
Rally in pnz feels weird
also high note is seras champ spell
orchid glacier
TBH that's not really the exact effect of Encore
As in
Translated to LoR from MOBA
But I'm not sure if it should have the same property as Ahri's Charm
slender scaffold
Encore should be: Choose a spell in hand and turn me into a copy of it. Treat this copy of spell as new.
orchid glacier
Malphite - Deck List, Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
orchid glacier
Ah
Just noticed how this is exactly his deck in LoL
Except Rockfall Path is Startipped Peak
slender scaffold
I don't get the Rock Solid I and II +1/+0 and +2/+0, does it mean like if it's destroyed before it is fully counted down?
or does it grant it +1/+0 | +2/+0 each time it counts down by 1?
and stacks with every single landmark counting down?
orchid glacier
When it countdown, it gives +1|+0 / +2|+0
When it finishes its countdown (i.e. destroyed by its own countdown), it gives +1|+1 / +2|+1
And yeah, it stacks
Multiple landmarks = poggers stats
orchid glacier
or does it grant it +1/+0 | +2/+0 each time it counts down by 1?
Yeah you got this one right
slender scaffold
That is one very strong power tbh. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
But it certainly gives purpose to landmark powers, especially the likes of Haunted Tomb and Frozen Thrall
Chip with Nab though... why? Chip ain't a thief.
Pairing Malphite with Akshan is crazy strong too
orchid glacier
But it certainly gives purpose to landmark powers, especially the likes of Haunt...
Yeah
Taliyah crying
slender scaffold
Though I feel like the "everywhere" part for 1* and 3* seems to be strong, you can just withhold your units and just drop these beefy units out of nowhere.
orchid glacier
Maybe
It makes up for the lack of units in his deck IMO
Or, it seems to be lacking
Hmm wait, excluding Malphite, it's actually balanced
slender scaffold
I do feel it does lack units.
But it's not that lacking like Lee Sin needs spells.
slender scaffold
AP Malph
orchid glacier
Lab of Legends BTW
slender scaffold
Excluding Malphite, there's 4 of each kind at least. 4 units and 4 landmarks, with Blue Sentinel counting as both
inb4 they release Malphite instead of Kayle for PoC
reef zenith
Chip with Nab though... why? Chip ain't a thief.
Chip has kindly asked the enemy for a card and they don't have the heart to refuse.
orchid glacier
Well I never did
But it's not like I made my icons big as they are small either
So they don't look very disoriented
BTW, Grifter's Deck is a rare item, right
versed osprey
just use google images
wiki page forces the images into smaller versions
hd images available on goog images
orchid glacier
Pyke - Deck List, Upgrades & Star Power ideas
slender scaffold
Blood in the Water might be too strong for this deck
slender scaffold
I mean, the standard is Pyke clears the board, rally, go for face.
versed osprey
i remember pyke poc
slender scaffold
It is ideal, but I feel it's too strong for PoC Pyke
orchid glacier
I remember too
versed osprey
the sound effect too gud
slender scaffold
Pyke was really fun to test out in old PoC when he first came out.
orchid glacier
Clear that Viktor in one run
sterile siren
Stabby stabby
sterile siren
Trifarian might
slender scaffold
I know, replace Blood in the Water with Careful Preparation. That's a good twist.
@sterile siren <<Careful Preparation>>
oof
that or Call the Pack
oh wait, wrong regions hm...
versed osprey
pyke without reksai 
slender scaffold
How bout Ye Been Warned? Give a draw engine for this deck?
orchid glacier
pyke without reksai <:kekw:865751927597039678>
I mean
Rek'Sai without Pyke is a thing
slender scaffold
Pyke can function just fine without Rek'sai definitely. Rek'sai just accelerates the Power growth
orchid glacier
Yeah
slender scaffold
Though if Pyke gets the Lurk "conversion" power, I wonder if Rek'sai will have any non-lurk cards on her deck and if she'll have a similar power to convert those to lurk
or maybe she'll just generate Lurk units with her power.
orchid glacier
How bout Ye Been Warned? Give a draw engine for this deck?
I'll think about it
Just need to figure out what to replace
TBH, IDK about Zap lol
That one is really just random
slender scaffold
I don't think units that were summoned after game start would benefit from getting the lurk keyword and lurker subtype?
sterile siren
The power works on summoned units tho right?
The lurk power
I might be wrong tho
slender scaffold
It's not like Leona's power which is constant, I think Game Start is a one-time thing, anything else summoned through a different card won't benefit from it.
sterile siren
Im pretty lurk procs if your unit has a lurker subtype
Allies everywhere should include summoned units
slender scaffold
oh, that might be true
slender scaffold
Unsealed Spellbook - Game Start and Round End: Transform me into a Random Rare Relic.
slender scaffold
or maybe just Game Start hm?
orchid glacier
Nah it's the terminology "and"
You must fulfill both conditions for it to work
Should be "or"
slender scaffold
ah, so its' "or"
orchid glacier
Yeah
slender scaffold
Though I think Game Start would be just better, for the likes of Gatekeeper and Galeforce or whatnot
slender scaffold
or other relics that starts at game start.
would be fun to experience relics that I DON'T HAVE.
Cries in Curator
orchid glacier
Mood
slender scaffold
RIP Allegiance. Though if you manage to pay off with just sticking with Bilgewater cards, that shadow totem has potential
orchid glacier
Free chump blockers too XD
tulip hound
Old poc Pyke I miss you
orchid glacier
orchid glacier
I'm expecting new Noxus, SI and Shurima champs
versed osprey
orchid glacier
Zilean - Deck List, Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
Note: Advanced Preparations was a reroll-able adventure power in Lab of Legends. I went for an approach of "what if it getting removed was for Zilean's Star Power?"
slender scaffold
I think adding random items on the time bombs might be too much
also I can sense Jinx/Annie/Diana levels OP with Zilean
provided you have Galeforce and 3 stars, keep adding and playing time bombs each round
which is not necessarily bad, but definitely a fun OP twist since each bomb would deal 8 damage to all enemies and nexus
slender scaffold
Looks good!
orchid glacier
XD I just like Zilean and used to play Zilean Ekko deck in constructed so I really really like it if he is made to like
Function very very well
In PoC
Hopefully next expansion adds him
Plz do not be Sivir
PLZ
Any Shurima champs are welcomed except Sivir
glacial eagle
congratulations you’re getting azir instead
orchid glacier
Acceptable
tulip hound
As long hecarim is added as an available support champ (if he isn't already)
reef zenith
I think all champs are available support champs except Maokai
orchid glacier
The thing about Maokai is you need 25+ tossed cards or dead allies
And you start with 18 cards
after 1st battle + pick SP champ package, you have 26 cards
But you would at least draw 4 + 1 cards without Heroes Welcome power and any card with Farsight item at Round 1
So it's impossible to make use of Maokai in early encounters
orchid glacier
Ekko - Deck List, Deck Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
orchid glacier
Don't have ideas for their star powers yet so later
slender scaffold
Ekko - Deck List, Deck Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
How does the 1* and 3* interact with the 2*? Does it mean you create a fleeting copy of the card you've picked with -2/-3 cost (if it's a spell)
orchid glacier
See a card: Cards that appear when you Predict before making a selection
So basically, the 3 cards that appear in your Prediction will get the buffs. That's how his PoC 1.0 power works (but this one's stronger)
Pick a card: Cards that you select from among the Prediction choices (the card you wanna put on top of the deck)
So the card I picked from the Prediction will be copied
And yes
0-cost Mystic Shot gets copied -> 0-cost Mystic Shot
3*
1-cost Mystic Shot -> 0-cost Mystic Shot (1*)
slender scaffold
even at 2* it would be turn all of your spells to 0-cost. Hm... I don't think Ekko had any big spells before right?
orchid glacier
Parallel Convergence might be the only one
But that would come from his champ spell
slender scaffold
ah true.
orchid glacier
Also Chronobreak but 3-cost is IMO, cheap
But it means you can draft expensive spells
And not worry about the cost
Assuming you're able to Predict
Wait
HMM
I'm dumb. One of them should have Oracle's Lens
slender scaffold
In a sense, you can repeatedly reduce a spell's costs and buff a unit as long as you keep predicting. Was this Ekko in PoC 1? I don't recall. I love playing him, but I don't recall it being this strong.
orchid glacier
1.0 Ekko is similar
When you get his upgraded power, it's the 3* power
Only, it's still +1|+1 for units instead of +2|+1
And spell cost reduction was indeed still -2
And TBF, PoC 1.0 doesn't have the deck upgrades PoC 2.0 has anyways
orchid glacier
Same
In constructed, I love playing Ekko Zilean
If either one of these came
I'm spamming
Well
Hopefully I have the frags
slender scaffold
If I knew we're getting a new PnZ Champ, I'll probably start saving
slender scaffold
SadTimeNoises
versed osprey
SI we only have 1 (does veig even count lol)
slender scaffold
Veig does count, yeah
might not be as edgy or spoopy as other SIs, but g'damn. Veigar is good
slender scaffold
Epic Relic Ideas:
Heartsteel - Tough and Regeneration.
Radiant Virtue - When I level up, give allies +0/+3 and fully heal them.
Muramana - Round Start: Refill 1 spell mana and I gain stats equal to your spell mana this round.
** Rabaddon's Deathcap** - Once each round, the first spell or skill you play that deals damage, deals twice the damage instead.
Common Relic Ideas:
Watchful Wardstone - Game Start: Mulligan twice.
Oblivion Orb - Enemies have -1/-0.
Leeching Leer - Lifesteal.
Last Whisper - Impact 2.
orchid glacier
Lol okay
sterile siren
1* Artillery Barrage: I
Each round, the first time your units damage the nexus, deal 1 to all enemies.
2* The Devil's Hand
+1 starting mana. Round start: create a fleeting ravenous flock in your hand.
3* Artillery Barrage: II
Each round, the first time your units damage the nexus, deal 2 to all enemies and the enemy nexus.```Dont mind me just wrote this up in like 5 mins kekw
orchid glacier
Do you guys think Loping Telescope is legit for mono-BC?
sterile siren
Hmmm
Tbf
Why not
Bandle city do be a wack region
And certain enemy decks do break the rules a bit
Like boss kaisa is frej shurima i think
@orchid glacier i do wonder tho
What do you use for your uh
Graphics for new ideas
orchid glacier
Oh I just copy image from mobalytics......
orchid glacier
orchid glacier
I'm a simple person
sterile siren
orchid glacier
So its not that hard to trigger your anuresym
It's year 2022
And I still have no idea what that means
versed osprey
I swear I'll riot if Shurima
rek 
versed osprey
Epic Relic Ideas:
**Heartsteel** - Tough and Regeneration.
**Radiant Virtue** - ...
rab not epic enough.
make rab ALL SPELLS deal double damage
my own annie siege artillery
slender scaffold
rab not epic enough.
make rab ALL SPELLS deal double damage
that would make luden's obsolete. as much as i want to do that... you know, balance
versed osprey
that would make luden's obsolete. as much as i want to do that... you know, bala...
balance in PvE does not exist
nor does it need to
thats like saying seraphs makes last chapter obsolete
or the level up stun all makes the on summon stun obsolete
they do similar things, but entirely different ways of using them
slender scaffold
true... but still.
orchid glacier
rek <:zoesmug:808626667815829547>
Gib Rek
orchid glacier
Norra - Deck List, Deck Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
(Requested by @slender scaffold)
versed osprey
tulip hound
Don't have ideas for their star powers yet so later
I have you thought of an idea for either of them yet
slender scaffold
Norra - Deck List, Deck Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
(Requested by <@1793285915...
oooh while it's nearly stepping on Bard's toes (or lack of it), I do like the deck list. I feel you can remove the chimes in the power and boost it a bit more.
slender scaffold
I think you can make the Powers better by removing the chimes aspect of it and focusing on the mysterious portal
orchid glacier
Any ideas then?
Norra's deck isn't just portals spam for me. It makes use of any boons
There's also the trap play but that's more Teemo/Caitlyn style
slender scaffold
one moment, thinking.
Move the stat boost on 2* (remove the positive keyword) to 1* and 3* (they still plant mysterious portal). I feel like 2* should be a Rally Effect given how much units you can summon when you high roll.
or rather 2*, rather than give a random positive keyword, it shares its keywords to all allies instead - and something else.
built-in Sharing is Caring fits Norra for some reason
Also, isn't Norra's playstyle revolve around spamming portals?
orchid glacier
No actually
I mean if you meant utilizing her ability
But non-portal created allies are also part of what makes her good
orchid glacier
I remember getting thrashed by SI Norra
Or to be specific, SI Heimer Norra in constructed
Quietus Quietus Quietus
To turrets
And shits
Removal > create allies > fast Heimer/Norra Lv.Up
RNG fun but it can really screw you up
if you lowroll OFC
slender scaffold
that is true
orchid glacier
Disclaimer: I don't remember Swain's Lab of Legends Deck List, which I wanna try replicating. Some of these might hit it though
Swain - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
(Requested by @tulip hound)
orchid glacier
Yeah I don't want it to be like Darius where I give +4|+0 and Overwhelm
Or some shit that's too similar
I did it like Taliyah's 3* instead
slender scaffold
I feel like Fearsome is wasted though
tbh, I feel Fearsome is wasted everywhere except Nocturne
orchid glacier
Kindred - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
Hmm I should adjust the text for the powers. Wait
There
The gap is closed
Hmm wait
OK done this time
slender scaffold
no mask mother sad
Overall, I'm quite neutral with that decklist. I think Kindred's deck generates a lot of cards in the field with Fading Icon and Blighted Caretaker, I think the Summon Prey Power might be better off somewhere
orchid glacier
no mask mother sad
I wanna include Mask Mother
But uh
IDK. I think it would have a stats problem
slender scaffold
Which I think is fine, in that deck - that only thing I think who is capable of ending a game is Kindred. Everything else seems to just supplement Kindred.
I think having Cursed Keeper, Mask Mother, or Ravenous Butcher would really improve the deck.
Because you'll have to be juggling your board a lot with the amount of times you're gonna kill them.
orchid glacier
Lmao Undying
sterile siren
Yes
warped bone
OK done this time
Level 2: every card is nasus
orchid glacier
UH okay I need help
I'm doing Hecarim rn
But do you guys know a suitable spell image for his star power
Onslaught of Shadows, his champ spell, is definitely a staple
I can't think of a 2nd SI spell
Wait
I got it
Still, feel free to suggest something though
versed osprey
orchid glacier
Spooky
Got the images up. Now
I just need to figure out what powers he can get
There's a little, special twist in the deck upgrades later BTW
versed osprey
once per round on your first attack, an etheral copy of each attacker gets a free attack first
then u attack normally
like the ekko skill
orchid glacier
Hecarim - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
sterile siren
@orchid glacier what do you mean on the 2 star
When u play a unit
Summon 2 followers that start a free attac?
sterile siren
Ah
sterile siren
Then maybe change the wording to :summon 2 different strongest followers that have died this game. They start a free attack.
orchid glacier
"Summon an attacking unit" would be shorter IMO
sterile siren
Yea
orchid glacier
And still means it starts a free attack
orchid glacier
But it has existed for a long time
orchid glacier
I've decided. Imma make a Sera deck
Gonna make some things suck to match up with Riot's standards
orchid glacier
I'm starting to doubt myself with the ideas I currently have now
But here you go
Seraphine - Deck List, Deck Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
P.S. I hate new Discord font so much
OK the wording for spell creating is lacking imma fix it :v
Wait a minute
OOOOOOOOO think I got a beat
OK this should be fine :v
slender scaffold
I think uhm... it would be nice for her star power to just generate a new spell, and also have the star power to like continuously reduce the cost of created spells by 1 each round.
though those powers are good by all means, but was sorta expected.
actually, I missed the 3* Power
I feel like her tempo is a bit slow for PoC, she'll need to rely on herself + Inspired Plans + Acoustician + Star Power to get new spells.
There's that 2-cost spell that creates a new card right in PnZ?
Trail of Evidence might be a good replacement for sputtering, though SPuttering Songspinner is such a payoff when you do get to play it
orchid glacier
Trail of Evidence might be a good replacement for sputtering, though SPuttering ...
Trail of Evidence creates any 2-cost card (even old ones)
Which can be a follower or spell
Without the star powers regarding played spells as new, it can be unreliable
It is good to have extra followers but IDK
BTW, it isn't my own ideas for those star powers
There was a discussion this morning and I just put together the others' ideas into it
slender scaffold
still good enough for me to 3* Sera
gaunt mantle
Mejai's soulstealer: if i destroy the enemy nexus, give copies of me everywhere +1/+1 for the rest of the run
Honestly this can problably be phrased better
And it might work better as item rather than relic
But eh
orchid glacier
Honestly this can problably be phrased better
"I have +1|+1 for each game you have won in an adventure"
Okay that's about it. Just made it similar to Bounty Hunter's Renown wording
I forgot to add the levels needed for each deck upgrades lol
gaunt mantle
"I have +1|+1 for each game you have won in an adventure"
I feel like every game is a bit too much(idk though, might be fine) but the way i phrased it the unit would only get buffed if it is the one that last hits the nexus
tulip hound
Hey you guys
Any ideas for what item
"play: level me up"
Would be a good effect for on a relic or something
slender scaffold
Rod of Ages
Though, there has to be more condition that just "Play: Level me up"
Maybe like: "I have Countdown 4: I Level up."
gaunt mantle
Or "if I have been in your hand x turns, I have "play: level me up""
slender scaffold
Rod of Ages meta
orchid glacier
How about
Play: If you have spent a total of 15+ mana or spell mana this game, level me up if I hadn't yet and grant me +2|+2
(Includes when playing the champ itself)
slender scaffold
- Crown of the Shattered Queen - Barrier and Spellshield. Each time I lose these keywords, grant me +2/+2.
- Jak'Sho, The Protean - Evolve. When I evolve, grant me Lifesteal.
- Radiant Virtue - When I'm summoned, heal allies 3. When I level up, heal myself and allies to full.
orchid glacier
So
I changed Sera's star powers
The previous ones would turbo level her a bit too quick
I mean this one also turbo levels her but not too fast
Hmm actually no. More limits
needed
OK I promised this should be the finalized one
orchid glacier
A quick one
Caitlyn - Deck List, Deck Upgrades and Star Power Ideas
orchid glacier
Changed a card to Corina
orchid glacier
I tried making it as different as Pyke's
Rek'Sai - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
Comparison with Pyke's
slender scaffold
does Rek'sai's 3* actually triggers Lurk twice or you need to trigger Lurk twice akin to Rek'sai's own effects?
orchid glacier
Attack once, Lurk activates twice
slender scaffold
neat
orchid glacier
It's like having a pseudo-Rek'Sai on top of your deck
But having an actual Rek'Sai on top of your deck means "triple Lurk"
slender scaffold
What I do feel is the Rek'sai's support champion package would be drastically limited compared to Pyke's, although I don't think that would be an issue?
orchid glacier
I'm really considering if the 2* power would be lackluster and I should try a different approach
I have like
3 Predict
and Call The Pack
slender scaffold
2* is too restricting in a sense that it works off Predict and Call The Pack only?
orchid glacier
But as you draft more cards, it might become much harder maybe?
slender scaffold
yeah, it will
slender scaffold
Hm... how bout, replace Xer'sai Hatching with something else - 1* and 3* summons Xer'sai Hatchinlings instead?
similar to Gwen's
or maybe at 3*, it summons 2 Xer'sai Hatchlings
orchid glacier
Xer'Sai Hatchling as a power only unit is weird
Also this is based on her Lab of Legends deck
slender scaffold
I felt Rek'sai as a swarm-based deck would work
slender scaffold
are there any other cheap non-BG lurk cards?
orchid glacier
Technically, I kinda made her like those Spiderling enemy nodes
orchid glacier
are there any other cheap non-BG lurk cards?
Nope
slender scaffold
oh
orchid glacier
Technically, I kinda made her like those Spiderling enemy nodes
(Their powers literally swarms you with spiders)
slender scaffold
yeah, I felt summoning hatchlings would be good each round
lemme check for other cards
orchid glacier
Frankly speaking, Shurima only has 4 Lurkers
And you see it all here except the 5-cost
(Her old deck doesn't have 5-cost either)
slender scaffold
oof
orchid glacier
yeah, I felt summoning hatchlings would be good each round
Not sure about that
Summoning a Hatchling as a pure chump blocker is kind of underwhelming during enemy's turn
slender scaffold
she can get really stuck once you start filling in your deck with more non-lurker cards and having to rely on 2* to make them into lurker too
slender scaffold
I mean, we'll have to replace Hatchling with another card
probably the 5+
make Rek'sai more of a late-game
slender scaffold
At most, people will always 2* her so at the bare minimum, a 2-cost unit should suffice no?
oh wait!
Give Hatchling that item that creates a copy in hand when you summon it instead
slender scaffold
mhm
orchid glacier
Sold
slender scaffold
Spirit Stone is the item!
orchid glacier
I know what you mean but
That's one problem resolved. Now it's the 2* power
Which I think I had an idea
slender scaffold
Here's something: When a Lurker Follower dies, shuffle a new copy of it into your deck.
but hm...
that would still be an issue for non-lurker issue
slender scaffold
me see!
orchid glacier
Wait
slender scaffold
Also, have you considered Careful Preparation instead of Feral Prescience?
though I guess that would be more of zilean deck
orchid glacier
That's more Zilean than Rek'Sai
Also
Feral Prescience in a deck
Mean
Top-tier meme
slender scaffold
lol
orchid glacier
Because if you get Feral Senses power
Well
I'll leave you to it
Anyway, here
Also changed Hatchling's item which means I should not change the power
slender scaffold
I like the new 2*
orchid glacier
Makes the game longer but whatever
slender scaffold
but the number of predicts in this deck is insane
orchid glacier
I think I kind of understand why her LoL deck does not use this
slender scaffold
4 ways to predict, with 1 guaranteed each time
slender scaffold
I feel with this many predicts, her 2* should just create Feral Prescience (with different items than the one listed now) and when you Predict, grant all cards Lurk/Lurker that were seen etc.
orchid glacier
I feel with this many predicts, her 2* should just create Feral Prescience (with...
But that's just Feral Senses power
slender scaffold
mhm
orchid glacier
Don't want to pull a Yasuo where 3 powers have the exact same effects
Just different names
slender scaffold
or perhaps make it when you don't have the attack token, then it creates the feral prescience?
slender scaffold
"+1 Starting Mana. Round Start: When you have the Attack Token, Predict."
"Whenever you Predict, grant all cards you see in the Prediction Lurk. If it is a unit, grant it +1/+1 and the Lurker sub-type."
or maybe remove the +1/+1 bit
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orchid glacier
There's not a single card that does that
+1 Starting Mana
The first non-Predict card you play each round has "Play: Predict, then grant the card you Predicted Lurk. If it is a unit, grant it +1|+1 and the Lurker sub-type"
slender scaffold
That works too
This makes certain power not a good pickup for Rek'sai either way XD
The ones that summons units straight away (except for that summon a 2-cost unit from your deck)
orchid glacier
Out The Gates is a meme with 2-cost champs
slender scaffold
mhm
orchid glacier
Let's settle with this then
Now that I think about it
Wouldn't this pair well with Lie In Wait
slender scaffold
That's the one that turns 3-cost or lower into Lurk/Lurkers?
orchid glacier
Yep
slender scaffold
hm... not really I tbh
starting deck has 1 non-lurker-subtype card.
might work with cheap supporting cards yeah, which I guess it works.
Actually no, quick question though. For 2*, if you Predict and pick a unit. If it's already has a lurker sub-type, does it still get the +1/+1?
slender scaffold
hm... Lie in Wait works well still
Though won't be that effective until you throw a lot of cheap cards into your deck XD
orchid glacier
Gonna add that line just in case
slender scaffold
Now do Kayle, Aatrox and Ryze
slender scaffold
slender scaffold
2* +1 Starting Mana. Unlocks new level up animation.
orchid glacier
LMFAO
slender scaffold
the new animation is now 1 minute long
I don't think Ryze has any support outside of his own little package right?
orchid glacier
Yeah......
I remember
Seeing a tweet that says
"Brand finally shared his skincare routine to Ryze"
slender scaffold
oof
orchid glacier
WR Brand BTW
slender scaffold
Ryze
Realm Warp (Chalice of Harmony)
Jury-Rig (Farsight Alteration, Philosopher's Stone)
Ransom Riches (Grifter's Deck)
Shield of Durand (Summoning Beacon)
Entreat (Poro Snax, Mighty Moustache)
Twin Disciplines (Elixir of Skill)
Rite of Passage (Yordle Portal)
Guiding Touch (Health Potion)
1* - Arcane Mastery I
The first spell you cast each round, you cast it again.
2* - Call of Power
+1 Starting Mana. When you activate a World Rune, activate it again.
3* Arcane Mastery II
Each time you cast a spell, you cast it again.
glacial eagle
Bad idea for a relic:
When I’m summoned, blade dance 5
orchid glacier
Me: Making a new idea
My mind while making it: "Noxus is kind of a fucked up region. How the heck can you have those people fight alongside with those "people" like they are just not scared of them???"
orchid glacier
Sion - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
This is probably the most challenging one
gaunt mantle
The 3 star power is basically the same as the 1 star
Id say not give it the extra attack on the level 1
orchid glacier
It's not really the same
1* creates a copy of a follower that has no items attached to it
3* creates a copy that has items
orchid glacier
Uh no
gaunt mantle
Or attack/ keyword buffs ig
orchid glacier
TBH, IDK the consensus of 'exact'
Because they don't copy debuffs most of the time
Despite saying 'exact'
It's either that, or the case of that actually happening might have been too low
gaunt mantle
Are you sure?
I guess its just most debuffs are for the round only
But i think if you use the reckoner that gives cant block and create an exact copy of the affected unit itll have cant block
orchid glacier
Hmm
Are there a lot of "create an exact copy of it in hand" card
Idr
Feels like most of the cases had been on field rather than hand
gaunt mantle
I think so too yeah
I guess the best use for the exact thing is killing a unit you got from that power already so it stacks the cost reduction and power
gaunt mantle
Its the same problem with lurk or deep
Closed archetypes are hard to make in a game where the cards you get are random
orchid glacier
Two abandoned archtypes, yep
Yeah......
Deep is really hard too when like
Only Nautilus seems legit for PoC but Maokai not
gaunt mantle
Id actually say maokai is easier to make than naut
Since you dont need to go deep
You can make toss cards, and get effects when tossing and when allies die
But you dont need deep
orchid glacier
True
But levelling up Maokai might be hard at early games unless they made him have at least 30+ cards in deck at the beginning or a re-shuffle
gaunt mantle
Something like: 1* the first time each round when you toss cards, grant your strongest ally +1/+1 for each card tossed and shuffle the tossed cards back into your deck
2* the first time an ally dies each round, toss 2 and heal your nexus 2
3* when you toss a card, grant your strongest ally +1/+1 for each card tossed and shuffle the tossed cards back into your deck
gaunt mantle
Right, youd also need a power to shuffle cards back into your deck
Might need to remove the stats to allies in the 1* power
orchid glacier
That seems nice
gaunt mantle
Youd never get to deep if you shuffle the toss cards back into the deck
It would have to only shuffle if youre deep
gaunt mantle
But yeah its hard to make decks for some champs
gaunt mantle
True
orchid glacier
Lmao
sterile siren
Kek
flint rover
Let's settle with this then
Aight, no way to lurk twice tho?
No rally no free attack
flint rover
oh
Lurk now activates twice each round is worded like you need second attack 😅
'When you activate lurk, Lurk again' or something
orchid glacier
Lol
versed osprey
how close were u for the released champs? @orchid glacier
orchid glacier
Not at all
Except Ekko
1* and 3* powers
Kindred is also close too
Utilizing Prey
Pyke is entirely different
Didn't do Nasus
Also didn't do LB
Didn't do Aatrox either since I have confidence he will be in PoC
twin crown
Will this thread ever die?
sterile siren
True
sterile siren
Says the guy playing snap mainly kekw
orchid glacier
Lmao
Also it make sense that Gab will be the one reviving it because he's the one who started this thread
versed osprey
versed osprey
Says the guy playing snap mainly kekw
won't let go of my first love
i have a dream it will be better some day
but this month's pass is auto-pass
sterile siren
but this month's pass is auto-pass
Silver surfer ass?
versed osprey
Silver surfer ass?
no no, LoR pass ass
orchid glacier
It has no Guardians
Skins aside, I think Guardians are what makes a pass good IMO
sterile siren
🤔
versed osprey
no guardians
skins ass
no relics
azir not in poc
renekton not in poc
nasus bad dog
i have no incentive of buying the pass
they should REALLY look into having alternative ways of spending for poc
the shards and wildcards i have no use for
i have a shitton of them right now
i think i have 93 champ wildcards
and an exponentially large number of fragments
since i play only poc, literally no use for it
timber mortar
they should REALLY look into having alternative ways of spending for poc
i just got an answer from this from dan
alsothis would make more sense as a tread on path talk?
tulip hound
Yes, it probably would
orchid glacier
Just kill me and my brainrot already
Azir - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
tulip hound
On the 2 star power, if the random positive keyword is a power aura for attacking units, wouldn't it already not be silence-able?
orchid glacier
Does that include the power bonus as well
I wasn't sure. Thought only the keywords cannot be silenced
Welp, I guess I should change that up a bit
Let's do it like this then
slender scaffold
You should had put a note on the 3* that it is currently bugged.
Azir looks good though
slender scaffold
but isn't getting Silenced good for sand soldiers?
or Sand Charger
Emperor's Dais is what will carry this deck though. Farsight and Extra Mana. I love it
sterile siren
Let's do it like this then
May i suggest replacing the tomb with... Emperors divide
And quicksand with golden ambassador
orchid glacier
And quicksand with golden ambassador
I don't see any Allegiance card in any starting decks so maybe not
orchid glacier
May i suggest replacing the tomb with... Emperors divide
OP
sterile siren
OP
Wait
Wheres phage at level 18 madge
But uhh maybe reppace quicksand with the rush spell then
Since uqicksand feels weird with azir's theme
timber mortar
Just kill me and my brainrot already <:MimoMistakesWereMade:661306556712878080> ...
No sundisk?
timber mortar
Let's do it like this then
Nice 🧑🍳 bro
steep nymph
I don't see any Allegiance card in any starting decks so maybe not
true. Since in PoC there are too easy to get the card from other regions
Look at ascendants, there is too difficult to have a pure shurima decks (the support champ will just ruin the day)
orchid glacier
Look at ascendants, there is too difficult to have a pure shurima decks<:porosad...
I keep getting mono-Shurima when I play Nasus
tulip hound
Channel quiet
sterile siren
Deadge chat
orchid glacier
I'm quite busy to even do something here
orchid glacier
Rumble - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
slender scaffold
oh god another pokey stick
2* Can easily create a Sion for some reason o_o
well, not easily. but at random of course
slender scaffold
Could limit it to a spell, or actually just create Jury-Rigs
warped bone
Follower or spell
pallid haven
I only just now noticed this thread. 
sterile siren
When it is a graveyard kekw
orchid glacier
I only just now noticed this thread. <:lulusip:748892987269972080>
It's pretty much dead right now so
warped bone
I meant you could say follower or spell
pallid haven
tulip hound
warped bone
@versed osprey stinky
versed osprey
pallid haven
pallid haven
GA revives champ at 1 hp when they die and still keeps revive, new hymn creates 3 mana copy of redoubled
mega stonks
versed osprey
Illinois relics
timber mortar
Yeh ga is definitly getting nerfed
orchid glacier
Nami - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
slender scaffold
is it suppose to meant create fleeting copy of a spell?
slender scaffold
I meant you were missing the create part.
was initially confused since it says refill spell mana and a random fleeting spell.
orchid glacier
Oh
Well I was in school preparing for a lesson for a class......
Internship thingy
Will fix later
slender scaffold
also, if it's a random card. what's the difference between creating a random spell vs creating a random copy of a spell?
Goodluck on your internship!
orchid glacier
also, if it's a random card. what's the difference between creating a random spe...
TBH I was questioning that too...... I saw some descriptions of such type before
orchid glacier
Goodluck on your internship!
Ayy thanks
sterile siren
Usually random copy is used for in your deck/hand clauses i think?
Random spell is just thin air
orchid glacier
Hmm
timber mortar
Nami - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
This would really need some kind of buff to created vpcards were they share the item
But seems cooo enough
warped bone
Nami - Deck List, Deck Upgrades & Star Power Ideas
I like how you took nami from poc 1 who’s already busted as hell
And made her like 4x as busted
Like who cares about the created spell, the refilled mana and the 2 star makes her op
orchid glacier
I like how you took nami from poc 1 who’s already busted as hell
Kind of my intention
slender scaffold
Spending 3 spell mana on a single unit gives them +3/+3 though
This + Sorcery + whatever 3+ cost spells there is is just a constant +3/+3 each round.
versed osprey
how similar is it then? 
sterile siren
Not at all
Thresh powers are wack
Nami is a watered down version of 1.0
Best 2 star power in game too "game start: draw a spell"
@versed osprey
timber mortar
I mean
She is broken since 1*
Is jsut that she doesnt get a lot more broken by star levels
2 mana is good for her more for the mana ghan for the power
Su.moning nami round 1 seems to be quite strong
And thats kinda it
Tresh is just slow and kinda weak but hey he is better than nasus and ornn!
We are improving!
Also monthlys sound very pog but wont have rewards
(For now)
reef zenith
Tresh is just slow and kinda weak but hey he is better than nasus and ornn!
I don't know, I'd say Nasus beats Thresh here
orchid glacier
Thresh is better than Ornn in a sense
but Nasus is better than both IMO
timber mortar
Personally i hate nasus