How is the score board calculated? It is garbage! I best in game for three diffrr categories and land in 8th place. How is this? You need to fix this. Stop giving participation trophies to all these losers. I do better than all in the first 7 places and get 8th! Really. Hiw can you say this is fair? You need to stop working about sissy player saying they never make first place. If the are that bad. Than go place something else. When I grew up. If you did not win 1st 2nd or 3rd. You go no trophies! Fix this woke garbage!
#Xp calculations
plain gate
elfin hazel
nimble locust
Take a screenshot of the results table and post it
plain gate
That does not show how you are scored for the leader board.
near meteor
... it's by xp
zinc lichen
I think he meant post the screenshot so people could actually see what the other teammates did or didnt do, but you know....
sharp ingot
Damage is not damage, for example: dmg outside of 200m gets less Xp as dmg inside of 200m.
Then there is the spot mechanic: if your target is self spotted, you get full Xp for the dmg. If someone else is spotting your target, you split the dmg Xp with the spotter.
And there are many other points: dmg against tier, tank role, etc.
nimble locust
That does not show how you are scored for the leader board.
The screenshot shows what you earned in contrast to other players on your team. Your own stats (dmg, spotting dmg, detections, etc) will be there as well. That way we can figure out why you landed lower in the table. The other option is to assume that rng is heavily set to specifically target you.
plain gate
I will try and get examples. But the way this is worked is not fair. Just like the matchmaking. It is woke participation trophy mindset and grading.
nimble locust
Calculating xp is also tier vs tier based, proximity based, etc. Everyone gets some xp but I’ve yet to see rng be generous and reward bottom tanks.
wispy tartan
It's not garbage. It actually makes a hell of a lot of sense when you're aware of how it works. A lower tier or lower in its respective tier within an era tank earns more exp for performing against higher tier (or tier within era) tanks. This is why the MBT-70 seems to finish first a lot despite getting less damage. It has 400 pen while other tanks around it have around 600-700
winged ember
It's not garbage. It actually makes a hell of a lot of sense when you're aware o...
This exactly. Low "tier" tanks get better XP when vs higher "tier" tanks.
It also helps if you spot a vehicle (or multiple) and get equivalent damage, remaining alive longer than most others, getting frags.
In CW I've gotten MVP with Charioteer, 0 kills and 1500 damage, and 8th place in FV4005 (💩 barn) with 4k+ damage and 5+ kills just for example.
plain gate
So explain this to me? I out played this person and everything I did was much higher and he took 3 and 8 took fourth? This is a woke system. For soyboy crybabies. I was in a heavy in the front fighting and this guy did nothing but sniper. I had more spotting damage than a light tank! WHAT??? If you say this is fair. Your brain dead.
So I was wrong about spotting damage. But he sat in the back the whole game. This is a woke system if I have ever seen it. I grew up where if you second place, was first place looser! No participation trophies.
near meteor
So to explain that:
The STRV 122A is 2 tiers higher than the Marder 1A3. Based on the xp gains formula this means the Marder gets much greater rewards shooting the same tanks.
This along with the Marder doing 700 more combined damage, 3 more detections, etc allows it to get more xp.
And yes it is fair as this game offers various challenges based on xp or scoreboard placement. Without tier dependent boosts, the average bottom tier tank is at every disadvantage (thanks to their worse stats) to compete for those objectives.
plain gate
It is still not fair
It is for those sissys that cry they can play. Just why didn't they give us a refund on the equipment they removed? Also the skills they removed. Or when the buff or nerf at tank i paid real money for? They are stealing money. My money!!
cerulean zealot
How is the score board calculated? It is garbage! I best in game for three diffr...
This is the same discussion under scoreboard discussion. It's not about XP. Remove XP from the scoreboard and sort on direct damage only. Simple and fixed!
near meteor
This is the same discussion under scoreboard discussion. It's not about XP. Re...
Yeah I am sure that's going to make bottom tier tanks real fun to play when there are placement dependent ops
cerulean zealot
Yeah I am sure that's going to make bottom tier tanks real fun to play when ther...
What? Not sure I understand your question, so a bit guessing here. Are you asking about maybe how, lower tier tanks will score lower on the scoreboard, because they could output less damage?
cerulean zealot
Yeah I am sure that's going to make bottom tier tanks real fun to play when ther...
It's true that lower tier tanks are rewarded more XP for damage on higher tier tanks, but I'm not suggesting any changes to XP, though that can be a separate discussion. I'm simply saying remove XP from the scoreboard and sort the scoreboard on direct damage. Will this result in it being harder in a lower tier to rank higher on the scoreboard? Yes, but the scoreboard (in the simplest and best way possible) should try and reflect how each player contributed to the battle, that means a tier 6 doing 1000 damage vs a tier 8 doing 2000 damage didn't contribute as much to the success of the team based on direct damage, therefore it would be listed below the tier 8 on the scoreboard.
near meteor
What? Not sure I understand your question, so a bit guessing here. Are you ask...
Yep. Specifically in challenge cases like last week's chest earn of "Place Top 7 on your team in 55 battles"
cerulean zealot
LOL, oh your talking about challenges! Well I'm sure the tier 8 that ranked 8th because the tier 6s placed ahead him wouldn't agree with you!
Even in situations where the tier is doing more direct damange then the tier 6s
Which is the real reason the scoreboard is sorted this way in the first place. WG want's people to accept +2/-2 MM
Look it's a fact that if you do more damage then another player in a battle, you contributed to the team success more then the other player (it doen't matter the tier of your tank). Yes, there are other contributions to winning a game, like capping, but the simplest and best measure is direct damage. Let's not make it complicated for players to understand the goal the game, they already struggle with the other strategies.
As for challenges, that's a whole separate discussion topic and why they shouldn't be doing those types of challenges where the scoreboard is involved. Especially, when it's not currently sorted based on direct damage.
near meteor
Look it's a fact that if you do more damage then another player in a battle, you...
I certainly wouldn't call direct damage the best metric for ranking. It neglects things like positioning, spotting, blocking, and other interactions that xp better tracks.
cerulean zealot
Yes it is and your flat out wrong. Maths funny that way. If you do all the direct damage to other team, they are dead! It doesn't matter your positioning, spotting, blocking or anything else. However, I do acknowledge there is another route to winning, that's capping when it's not a team destruction. Now, I'm in no way saying other things don't matter in a battle and you shouldn't receive XP for all of it, again a separate discussion.
cerulean zealot
FYI, is there a way to come up with how players have contributed to the battle more then others? LOL, well that's a question that's been wrestled with from practically the beginning. The best way for some, would argue is the WN8 formula, which others will argue is not. However, this isn't even supported by WG. If you understand the formula, which I do and even have vidoes showing others how to understand the formula. This formula realize heavily on direct damage, multiple factors. The reason for it is because of what I said above, math is math and it doesn't care about your feelings. I think it would be best to keep it simple and straight forward for all those players that's aren't nerds like me.
plain gate
I think they should remove xp from scoreboard. I no longer play ww11 because of matchmaking. So in cold war. Where spotting is not needed to see the enemy in the game. It should nit be part of the formula to ranks player on the scoreboard. Also when you have a heavy that sits in the back of the map and snips kills from everyone. How are you supposed to get your contacts done? I have been on the game foe 12 years. And We are still talking about the same old problems.
spring ivy
You progress your contracts same way as you'd always do. Kills, XP and whichever other tasks you'd need to perform. The contract UI is clear enough on that front.
As for spotting in CW, most players do not utilise True Vision. Spotting is still very helpful, so of course you should get XP for that.
If you have any games where you're uncertain of the XP allocation, send us a screenshot of the post-battle leaderboard. It's usually fairly clear as to why players get more XP.
plain gate
So explain that to me. Because this xp system or however they do the scoreboard is a woke system. They give everyone a participation trophy. It has gotten so bad it is almost time to stop playing. I know a lot of players that have been here for the 12 years. Say that it is broken. Just like the matchmaking in WW11. They need to fix this garbage xp or scoreboard or whatever they use to put you on the scoreboard!
This is a joke!
serene cypress
In those screenshots it looks like the person who should be above you... Is above you
rough merlin
Yeah in one form or another those above you look like they earned those positions
spring ivy
Yeah, that's an awful example to what you're complaining about. All either did more damage or significantly more spotting damage.
Why on earth do you think you should be higher? You said it yourself, no participation trophies.
plain gate
The one above me had not spotting damage not tracking assist. So how do they score the scoreboard?
near meteor
They did double your damage and got one more kill?