#How to transfer big files from a windows 10 NTFS drive to a linux drive

535 messages · Page 1 of 1 (latest)

crisp eagle
#

So long story short, I tried to transfer over a 600gb folder from a win 10 ntfs drive to a linux drive, thought I lost a bunch of really old sentimental files and felt REALLY REALLY CRAPPY, as a final resort booted up windows 10, the files show in the folder ??????????????????????????????

Listen I learnt my lesson, ALWAYS TAKE COMPATIBILITY INTO ACCOUNT, for all things in life okay? :) But this really is bugging me, HOW do I transfer files over from a windows 10 drive to a nvme (i think. the little one) ssd with linux mint

On linux some files are not showing at all, there are input output errors, a whole load of baloney! if really need be I could buy another hard drive to bring those files over (they aren't really urgent need NOW files) but I would prefer to bring them over to the SSD, format the HDD to ext4 or whatever mint is on then bring them back.

crisp eagle
#

I can right click on a folder in linux, and it can show as like 0 bytes but in windows the folder does have things in it, so yea, I can also give edxtra information need be

#

some video files don't even play fully, they skip randomly, so I think linux is thinking that part of the data doesn't exist at all, but really I'm unsure

#

also sorry if this is the wrong place to ask,

muted vine
#

if you suspect files are missing on the NTFS drive, use the /r switch

#

if just need repair, use the /f switch

crisp eagle
#

nono, the issue is moreso on linux those files don't show up

muted vine
#

are thos same files OPENABLE and FULLY READABLE on the NTFS drive in Windows 10?

crisp eagle
#

yes, I can try again to verify

#

like for example, okay It will take a bit for me to give you the 2 screenshots so bare with me

muted vine
#

I won't bare with you, but I'll bear (the burden) with you

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

this 1000 GB volume, is that shown as NTFS in the Disks app?

crisp eagle
#

I checked on windows it's ntfs

muted vine
#

oh

#

so ther is an OS on this 1 TB drive eh?

crisp eagle
#

Yea I had an old HDD but got a new SSD a while back and I just used the old HDD to store files

muted vine
#

hit win+r and do diskmgmt.msc

#

then show it plz

crisp eagle
#

Sorry wait phones being weird

muted vine
#

of the whole disk management window

crisp eagle
#

Sorry it took a while discord was being weird

muted vine
#

ok so disk1 is linux i presume

crisp eagle
#

Yes

muted vine
#

how were u copying the files? directly using linux from disk0 to disk1 , or via usb stick?

crisp eagle
#

It was from 0 to 1. On 1 but I think vice versa would be smarter. To do 1 to 0 on 0

#

Oops

#

0 to 1 on 0

muted vine
#

the proper way would be first chkdsk drive c:

crisp eagle
#

K

muted vine
#

after it is found to be 100% error-free

#

then boot into linux, and copy a few folders at a time over

#

don't attempt to use ext4 recognition software on Windows to attempt to write to Linux

#

or whatever filesystem type you chose for Linux

crisp eagle
#

Okay I will but I tell you I was running a file diff between the directories since I noticed different file sizes and it was only a select few folders acting nasty if that gives any details

muted vine
#

open admin command prompt, chkdsk c: /f

crisp eagle
#

Oh k I added the f flag

muted vine
#

then i'm sure it will prompt to do it on restart of windows

#

so let it restart and make sure you pick Windows to start

crisp eagle
#

Yep

muted vine
#

thought I lost a bunch of really old sentimental files

#

^ make three copies

#

original, plus one other on a different drive or medium, and one other offsite.

crisp eagle
#

I will do that data stuff l, we'll they weren't REALLY old sentimental.

#

And I'm in grub now should I boot to Linux

muted vine
#

um did u let chkdsk finish?

crisp eagle
#

Yes then the computer turned off

muted vine
#

wait wait

crisp eagle
#

Or I turned it off likely the former

#

But it got to stage 4 100 percent

muted vine
#

u ran the command, it asked to restart. did u let it start windows and DO THE JOB>?>>

crisp eagle
#

Since it didn't ask for reboot

muted vine
#

u mean restarted windows

crisp eagle
#

When I booted up it immediately started it

muted vine
#

as long as your 100% sure it did the scanning (which for a drive this size, i imagine would have taken SEVERAL minutes)

muted vine
#

ok and were u also the same person asking about some very long mp4 file with chinese letters in filename?

crisp eagle
#

Did

crisp eagle
#

So it was fine afterall

muted vine
#

on the USB, did you rename it to english letters?

crisp eagle
#

No not at that point I had just moved it

muted vine
#

alright. well make sure you're not copying that suspect one(s) over to Linux.

#

from the hard drive, I mean

#

that's probably what's screwing up the copying and causing file diff to show discrepancies

crisp eagle
#

Well the folder is still empty on Linux, the entire drives shows itself as less full then it really is

muted vine
#

otherwise should work to copy a few folders at a time, from in the Linux environment - from the old C: drive to the Linux SSD

#

maybe the linux filesystem also needs error-correction scanning.

crisp eagle
#

Okay, see the issue is that there are a few specific folders that act weird on linux

muted vine
#

Do you have linux mint bootable CD/USB?

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

yep

#

boot that up then run lsblk -o name,model,label,fstype,size

#

and find the exact linux partition

#

then sudo fsck </dev/.....> that

#

relacing the bracketted thing above with the actual dev name

crisp eagle
#

Why with a usb?

muted vine
#

it doesn't let u do it while mounted (so can't be running)

crisp eagle
#

Ahk

#

I'll take a moment

muted vine
#

ttyl

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

it starts with /

#

/dev/......

crisp eagle
#

So I will include the dev and the slash

muted vine
#

ya

#

u must

crisp eagle
#

I run fsck and it immediately stops

muted vine
#

it's a fast device

#

no errors apparently

crisp eagle
#

Okay

#

This is really weird now on the usb I can view those files

#

H?MMM let me try booting up again on the normal

muted vine
#

...

crisp eagle
#

Nope, this is really weird

#

For some reason my Linux is viewing the hard drive weirdly

#

Like if 200 GB didn't exist at all

muted vine
#

hang on

crisp eagle
#

Okay

muted vine
#

ur probably on metric units

#

open nemo,

#

go to edit: preferences

#

in general. set display units prefixes to IEC (binary)

crisp eagle
#

Okay, there is no general tab but I'll find it

muted vine
#

can also show result of:
lsblk -o name,model,fstype,size,fssize,fsused,fsavail,mountpoint

crisp eagle
#

K

muted vine
#

should show about 930.88G for the 3rd partition in the FSSIZE column for the hdd

muted vine
crisp eagle
#
andrew@ark:~$ ls "/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound"
ls: reading directory '/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound': Input/output error
andrew@ark:~$ lsblk -o name,model,fstype,size,fssize,fsused,fsavail,mountpoint
NAME      MODEL              FSTYPE   SIZE FSSIZE FSUSED FSAVAIL MOUNTPOINT
sda       ST1000DM010-2EP1          931.5G
├─sda1                                529M
├─sda2                                 99M
├─sda3                                 16M
└─sda4                              930.9G 930.9G   674G  256.9G /media/andrew/F
nvme0n1   Fanxiang S500Pro 1        953.9G
├─nvme0n1p1
│                                     512M   511M   6.1M  504.8M /boot/efi
└─nvme0n1p2
                                    953.4G 937.3G 820.9G   68.8G /
andrew@ark:~$

I don't think the issue is with Nemo, like I guess the size is showing properly but in the file explorer it shows as 730gb, when I try to LS that folder I get an input output error if that gives any hints

#

so, to me it seems like, some things are just inaccessible

#

Oh, I might know what's wrong one time I tried to right click and change all permissions to allow me to read write but stopped it early on

#

but I don't that that would cause anything of this magnitude

#

maybe.?

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

Oh yeah, nevermind it shows as 674g in linux, but Trust me, when I open windows it shows as 930 or so used

#

and it says it's nearly full, I can show you if you want

muted vine
#

look at my last pic

crisp eagle
#

Yes, but on windows it shows 930, USED, like the bar is literally red and it says like 22gb left

muted vine
#

well, 931 is total

#

the partition is 930

crisp eagle
#

well, maybe windows takes 930 as 1000

#

you know how sometimes these numbers are weird with gigabytes

muted vine
#

it's not the units in this case

crisp eagle
#

but I can show you on windows, that it is used to that extent, (if you want, I don't mean to bother you by repeating it)

muted vine
#

what I'm more puzzled by is why it didn't list the fstype, even though you told it to

#

run lsblk -f and show a screenshot fitted to the complete result

crisp eagle
#

sure

muted vine
#

this is NOT right , as far as I'm concerned

#

it's not even showing the 4 columns info for the LINUX drive!

#

do u have some disk app open? like gparted?

crisp eagle
#

Well, I ahve file explorer

#

(nemo)

muted vine
#

no matter that

#

should try booting the live usb of mint

#

and click the drive volumes in file manager first so all drive volumes mounts then widen a terminal , run lsblk -f again and take pic

crisp eagle
#

alrighty

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

Why?

muted vine
#

something's not right with it not detecting and displaying the missing 4 columns

#

for all drives

crisp eagle
#

Well I unplugged the usb if you were asking about that

#

But you probably mean something different

muted vine
#

nothing about usb

#

but live boot and show result

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

wrong pic

crisp eagle
#

Oh sorry

crisp eagle
#

Okay discord in phone is being weird I have to take the pics outside of discord

muted vine
#

u can log in on firefox, live

crisp eagle
#

I mean I could maybe do that, for discord? (If that's what you're asking)

muted vine
#

look at sda4 info

#

97% used

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

That's what I've been saying! For some reason Linux is pretending 200 GB or so doesn't exist

#

I'm really confused ;-;

muted vine
#

and im sure it's related to something of core function. the four colums show up here, in live mode

crisp eagle
#

Do you have any idea what's going on, I can zip it for a bit if you want

muted vine
#

i dont know. u have to rollback timeshift

#

or figure out what core changes caused the installed linux to not be able to accurately read

#

open Disks app in live

#

and take two photos for your record

#

one of the hdd

#

one of the ssd

#

since it shows there a bar graph in blue

#

then see in the installed Mint, same observation

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

just what i last wrote

crisp eagle
#

Alright

muted vine
#

for check Disks app in live usb, and in real

crisp eagle
#

Forgive me, you want me to check the disks app and run those commands? Or just the disk apps.

muted vine
#

open Disks app in live
and take two photos for your record
one of the hdd
one of the ssd
since it shows there a bar graph in blue
then see in the installed Mint, same observation

crisp eagle
#

Alright

crisp eagle
#

If it matters any this is how it looks like when I shut down with the usb

muted vine
#

no matter

#

have u got synaptic package manager?

#

else check in Software Manager, and look up ntfs

#

i think some package ntfs tools.

#

it may have updated to a bad version of this tool (compared to what was on the live ISO)

#

though that still doesn't explain the 4 missing columns in lsblk -f

crisp eagle
#

okay okay

#

is there any in particular I should pick

muted vine
#

click Ntfs-3g

#

and note its version number

crisp eagle
#

version is 1:2022.10.3-1.2ubuntu3

muted vine
#

if you want to boot the live USB and do apt list -i ntfs-3g it will show what version the live ISO had installed

crisp eagle
#

sure

muted vine
#

but yeah some other ppl will have to look into this i think

crisp eagle
#

Okay, I'll try to see the version, but I think I'll leave this post be for now

#

till someone else can come, thank you so much for your patience and help

crisp eagle
#

Wait, small thing. Would it be a safe reasonable option to boot up the USB, and transfer the files while on the usb? then I can try reformatting the drive to ext4

muted vine
#

the USB is also NTFS currently

#

if u can blank the usb, make it as exFAT

#

copy exactly what you need onto it from the Windows environment....

#

once you're absolutely sure your files are legible on the USB , from both Window and Linux, then you can think about deleting the Windows partition (and losing Windows) and changing that to ext4 or BTRFS

crisp eagle
#

Sorry, as in. I boot up from the live usb then bring the files over, drag and drop. Usb just for live boot

muted vine
#

no. your "backups" USB

#

or whatever external drive u got that is large and u can make it into exFAT format

#

move what u need there (from Windows)

#

while in Windows

crisp eagle
#

alright

#

the usb is 16 gb btw, so I will go to sleep but my idea is. Boot into windows, connect some hard drive ( I don't know here I'll find one but they aren't that expensive last I checked) format it, and transfer those files over

#

Or, is it possible that while on the live boot of the USB, I just drag and drop the files between the 2 drives

#

well I got to go now, but thank you

muted vine
#

or yes, i guess

#

if in live u can see all u need

#

but best do it from Windows

crisp eagle
#

alright, I'll probably do that as a last resort after a while if no one else knows what to do. and again, ty

daring cargo
#

@crisp eagle can you see / open required files when booted from usb?

crisp eagle
daring cargo
#

Why not just copy them from the live environment?

crisp eagle
#

I was thinking of that near the end, but I'm still really curious why linux doesn't see some of the files. Well it's whatever but that's what I plan to eventually do

keen cairn
daring cargo
keen cairn
#

could it be simply a permission issue ?

#

like, what happen if he whatch the drive as root in the installed session ?

daring cargo
#

NTFS doesn't support linux permissions. Also free space is different when viewed from live and installed, and lsblk -f doesn't show uuid and filesystem in installed mint

#

I wonder if fast startup can mess with it in this way? .... but then it works fine in live

keen cairn
#

Maybe not properly mounted

#

strange...

#

maybe by mounting at startup with proper options, maybe it use an alternative ntfs driver...

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

or what should I do, (if you have any idea, i dont want to bother)

daring cargo
#

Other than this disk, are there other problems?

#

@crisp eagle

crisp eagle
#

Well, other else then the disk stuff. not really that I have noticed

daring cargo
#

Ok, where are you now?

crisp eagle
#

at home

daring cargo
#

I meant in mint or windows?

crisp eagle
#

Oh, linux mint, it's my main driver (forgot the name)

#

I just installed windows on the other drive for, I don't remember why reasons

#

i dont really use it

daring cargo
#

Ok, open the terminal and show the output of

lsblk -f

crisp eagle
#
âžś  ~ sudo lsblk -f
[sudo] password for andrew:
NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL    UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
sda
├─sda1
│    ntfs         Recovery 8CD46517D46504B4
├─sda2
│    vfat   FAT32          1C66-CD47
├─sda3
│
└─sda4
     ntfs                  F0EC68E4EC68A696
nvme0n1

├─nvme0n1p1
│    vfat   FAT32          8C2E-0DC7                             504.8M     1% /boot/efi
└─nvme0n1p2
     ext4   1.0            51888eb4-832a-447e-ba85-6e8e18cc6524   62.3G    88% /
âžś  ~

Oh my gosh I tested using sudo and now it shows uuid

#

I didn't know you were supposed to use sudo

#

honestly that's on me

#

well uuid, fstype and the rest of stuff

daring cargo
#

You shouldn't need to for this command

crisp eagle
#

ah, anyways now it shows fstype

daring cargo
#

There should be another column mountpoints on the right

crisp eagle
#

atleast

crisp eagle
#

(by clicking on it in file explorer)

#

I'll get right back to you,

#
âžś  ~ lsblk -f
NAME        FSTYPE FSVER LABEL UUID FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
sda
├─sda1
├─sda2
├─sda3
└─sda4                               256.9G    72% /media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696
nvme0n1
├─nvme0n1p1                          504.8M     1% /boot/efi
└─nvme0n1p2                           62.3G    88% /
âžś  ~
#

oops, let me sudo

#
âžś  ~ sudo lsblk -f
NAME FSTYPE FSVER LABEL    UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
sda
├─sda1
│    ntfs         Recovery 8CD46517D46504B4
├─sda2
│    vfat   FAT32          1C66-CD47
├─sda3
│
└─sda4
     ntfs                  F0EC68E4EC68A696                      256.9G    72% /media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696
nvme0n1

├─nvme0n1p1
│    vfat   FAT32          8C2E-0DC7                             504.8M     1% /boot/efi
└─nvme0n1p2
     ext4   1.0            51888eb4-832a-447e-ba85-6e8e18cc6524   62.3G    88% /
âžś  ~
daring cargo
#

Don't rush please

crisp eagle
#

You are right, I realized that I was rushing earlier ;-;

daring cargo
#

Alright, now it's mounted, where are the files you wanted to copy?

muted vine
#

tha'ts interesting. it only shows fsver and fstype and uuid using sudo

#

which is not normally the case

crisp eagle
#

Well it was an entire big dir, specifically /media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads. it was the only one I had issues with. well moreso specific folders and files in it...

muted vine
#

run groups <username> (put your own user)

crisp eagle
#

alright

#

I get this back

âžś  ~ groups andrew
andrew : andrew adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev users lpadmin sambashare docker
âžś  ~
muted vine
#

i have a feeling you excluded yourself from some vital group

#

Imma check my own

daring cargo
#

Looks about the same as my own

crisp eagle
#

THIS MIGHT BE RELEVANT, one time I couldn't edit the files and I tried turning a lot of things in there into read/write (right click permission etc in nemo) but I cancelled midway. Should I try chowning or chmoding or whatever?

muted vine
#

i have more groups (didnt explicitly add them myself) suchas netdev, dialout, cdrom, floppy

#

oh and scanner

#

and lp

#

idk what lp is. local printing maybe

daring cargo
#

yeah, lpadmin is for printing

muted vine
#

and add the scanner group

crisp eagle
#

if it might be relevant some files have like half of their data missing, there are some videos where it stutters and then skips to like a timestamp ahead, nomatter the player. But okay let me try what you say

muted vine
#

to your account 'andrew'

#

lp dialout cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev users netdev lpadmin vboxsf scanner sambashare

#

those are my included groups (plus my own user group name)

daring cargo
crisp eagle
#

sorry, so I select scanner in the list, I press add then it asks for a group name, should I put the name of the group?

muted vine
#

select your user id

#

and modify

#

and then add certain groups

#

or vice versa, select a particular group (like netdev or scanner) and tick your user account for it

crisp eagle
#

I think I found hte button

#

I have to click on the groups button, not the groups tab.

#

okay I added scanner, should I reboot?

muted vine
#

not yet

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

alright

muted vine
#

i don't think a full reboot is needed, but perhaps a log-out

crisp eagle
#

I don't see vboxsf but now I got this

âžś  ~ groups andrew
andrew : andrew adm lp dialout voice cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev users lpadmin netdev scanner sambashare docker
âžś  ~
``` I'll log out now. also at one point I pressed scanner in group, then typed in add, then typed in scanner, I don't know if it would have overwrited it
#

Yea i logged out, even rebooted

#

but I still see 200gb or so missing

#

or at least, invisible

daring cargo
#

One thing at a time. Where are the files you wanted to copy?

crisp eagle
#

I wanted to copy EVERYTHING under

/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads
``` if you are asking about any specific folder that has had issues then

/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound

daring cargo
#

What does

ls /media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/

say?

muted vine
#

you can use tab key to autofill btw

crisp eagle
#
andrew@ark:~$ ls /media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/
'2025-10-02 18-00-33.mp4'  '2026-01-25 13-01-14.mp4'
'2025-10-02 20-27-12.mp4'  '2026-01-25 13-10-14.mp4'
'2025-10-13 13-46-44.mp4'  '2026-02-01 21-23-21.mp4'
'2025-10-13 17-51-35.mp4'  '2026-02-02 19-10-56.mp4'
'2025-11-11 20-07-46.mp3'  '2026-02-02 19-30-51.mp4'
'2025-12-19 16-24-35.mp4'  '2026-02-02 19-43-50.mp4'
'2025-12-19 16-25-46.mp4'  '2026-02-04 21-28-25.mp4'
'2025-12-19 17-09-35.mp4'  '2026-02-05 17-04-30.mp4'
'2025-12-19 17-28-14.mp4'  '2026-02-05 17-10-37.mp4'
'2025-12-20 18-13-12.mp4'  '2026-02-13 18-49-02.mp4'
'2025-12-25 10-16-44.mp4'  '2026-02-14 19-24-30.mp4'
'2025-12-25 10-17-49.mp4'  '2026-02-14 21-45-02.mp4'
'2025-12-25 10-18-55.mp4'  '2026-02-14 21-48-19.mkv'
'2025-12-25 10-19-57.mp4'  '2026-02-14 21-48-19.mp4'
'2025-12-25 10-20-36.mp4'  '2026-02-14 22-12-32.mkv'
'2025-12-25 10-21-24.mp4'  '2026-02-14 22-12-32.mp4'
``` I'd have to break it up into 2 parts
#
'2025-12-25 10-22-00.mp4'  '2026-02-17 19-31-07.mkv'
'2025-12-25 10-22-28.mp4'  '2026-02-17 19-31-07.mp4'
'2025-12-25 10-35-10.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-11-37.mkv'
'2025-12-25 10-36-36.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-11-37.mp4'
'2025-12-25 10-40-34.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-12-34.mkv'
'2025-12-25 10-40-57.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-12-34.mp4'
'2025-12-25 16-59-01.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-53-11.mkv'
'2025-12-25 17-00-22.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-53-11.mp4'
'2025-12-26 21-03-18.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-56-41.mkv'
'2025-12-26 21-09-05.mp4'  '2026-02-25 20-56-41.mp4'
'2025-12-26 21-19-43.mp4'  '2026-02-25 21-15-46.mkv'
'2026-01-05 17-29-03.mp4'  '2026-02-25 21-15-46.mp4'
'2026-01-05 17-32-27.mp4'  '24fps compound clip in 60fps timeline.mov'
'2026-01-05 17-33-59.mp4'  'broken discord gif.mp4'
'2026-01-05 17-34-30.mp4'   CathedraliteDomes_0.pdf
'2026-01-05 17-35-19.mp4'   desktop.ini
'2026-01-06 19-12-57.mp4'   Dwarf_Fortress_Revisoned
'2026-01-10 17-39-29.mp4'   FINALL.mov
'2026-01-13 20-16-35.mp4'   FIN.mov
'2026-01-14 20-00-22.mp4'  'Images videos and memes overlays sound'
'2026-01-14 20-00-34.mp4'  'interactive media'
'2026-01-14 20-00-44.mp4'   Krisp_Installer.exe
'2026-01-14 20-01-22.mp4'   media
'2026-01-14 20-02-10.mp4'  'plutonium intro.mp4'
'2026-01-17 21-48-32.mp4'   plutonium.mp4
'2026-01-22 10-01-41.mp4'  'random russian discord bs.mp4'
'2026-01-22 10-03-29.mp4'   raoms2review.mov
'2026-01-22 10-12-39.mp4'   Recordings
'2026-01-22 10-31-18.mp4'  'Resolve Projects'
'2026-01-25 12-42-11.mp4'  'ROBLOX GAME DEV'
'2026-01-25 12-45-35.mp4'  'samsung a05'
'2026-01-25 12-59-16.mp4'  'temp media'
andrew@ark:~$
muted vine
#

can u hit the up arrow ONE TIME

#

in terminal

daring cargo
#

Ok, and

ls "/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound"

muted vine
#

and arrow over to the ls part

#

and change it to cd and hit enter

#

what folder you logged to rn?

#

name the last one in the string

crisp eagle
#

Okay, Well give me a bit. For stunner I have chaned to the directory. the one you just told me to cd into, but Downloads

muted vine
#

pwd

crisp eagle
#

In regards to what maniak asked,

andrew@ark:/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads$ ls "/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound"
ls: reading directory '/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound': Input/output error
andrew@ark:/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads$
muted vine
#

and state please

crisp eagle
#

Of course, let me do that now

pwd
/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads
muted vine
#

ok i see it ur in downloads

#

let's try one more way here:

#

do ls -la --group-directories-first

#

from where u are now (downloads)

crisp eagle
#

Would you prefer me to break the message up or send it as a txt

muted vine
#

maximize terminal, and take screenshot with screenshot tool

daring cargo
#

Huh... can't read that specific folder

muted vine
#

i want to see perms on EVERYTHING within ./Downloads

#

and i noticed the i/o error too,

daring cargo
#

As for me, what does

sudo ls "/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound"

say?

crisp eagle
#

Okay, just tell me if you want me to send plain text instead. Oh yes and the i/o error thats been there for a while, I mentioned it once or twice. it happened during using meld, diff and other stuff. Okay maniak i'll get right to you

crisp eagle
# daring cargo As for me, what does sudo ls "/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downl...
andrew@ark:/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads$ sudo ls "/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound"
[sudo] password for andrew:
ls: reading directory '/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound': Input/output error
andrew@ark:/media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696/Users/cples/Downloads$
muted vine
#

and hit the up arrow once or twice to repeat the same command i had said, but put sudo in front

muted vine
daring cargo
#

I don't think it's a permission error

muted vine
#

since for some nutty reason, no perms show, (but then again this is ntfs)

muted vine
#

wait i was so blind lol

#

it had the perms earlier my browser tab was scrolled right

#

look at the size

#

folders are supposed to be 4KB arent they?

#

without scanning capacity within them

crisp eagle
#

maybe that specific command showed the real size when other things couldnt? but I don't know

muted vine
#

for example, see the folder "Dwarf fortress" there?

#

4096 bytes (4 KiB)

#

can u enter that folder in file manager?

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

hit the up arrow button in nemo toolbar

#

right click > properties on the Dwarf folder

crisp eagle
#

The dwarf folder also had i/o errors, well a build sub folder but yea

muted vine
#

see in Properties, it shows the total capacity of data bytes contained WITHIN

muted vine
#

which is correct

#

but all the other folders seem crazy af

#

they should all register 4 KiB there

daring cargo
#

Folders can be big in size if there are lots of stuff inside

ls -lah /mnt/sdb1/Games/
итого 356K
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8,0K апр 6 16:23 .
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K мар 31 14:21 ..
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Black Souls'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Black Souls II'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8,0K ноя 22 2024 Evenicle2
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Gore Screaming Show'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 ноя 22 2024 GzDoom
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K янв 25 2025 'Holy Knight Ricca'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Laxius Power TRILOGY'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 244K апр 6 16:27 'Lufia V For The Savior - 1.3'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Maggot Baits'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 ноя 22 2024 'Nais Training Diary'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Overwhored Ver 1.1'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 ноя 7 23:07 Ps2
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 дек 30 23:17 Psp
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 'Shyguy surfing'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K янв 27 18:29 Snes
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 40K мар 13 14:53 Switch
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8,0K ноя 22 2024 'Teaching Feeling v4.06'
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 Voice.of.Cards.The.Beasts.of.Burden
drwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4,0K ноя 22 2024 Voice.of.Cards.The.Forsaken.Maiden

from my system

muted vine
#

that's how mine look (even tho there's big stuff in those blue/purple things, not count the dots)

muted vine
#

well, except about 3

#

that show 8 K

daring cargo
#

Look closer at the switch and lufia V

muted vine
#

and one 244K

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

Alright

daring cargo
#

I think we should unmount sda4 from /media run ntfsfix on sda4 and mount it somewhere in /mnt see if that changes anything

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

yeah run up the Disks app andrew

#

find sda4

#

and click the stop button

crisp eagle
#

alright

daring cargo
#

You can just do it from the terminal

#

will see results better

muted vine
#

yes the mounting part to dedicated folder, do in terminal

#

ls /mnt

#

if it's empty, then

crisp eagle
#

okay let me stop it

muted vine
#

sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt

crisp eagle
#

Okay it says it's busy when I try to unmount it, let me unbusy it by closing some apps

daring cargo
#

no, need to do

sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda4

before that

crisp eagle
#

I am getting target is busy, I am going to reboot

daring cargo
#

... before mount that is

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

may as well reboot but careful

#

if ur copying data, dont reboot yet

daring cargo
crisp eagle
#

I already di that

muted vine
#

maniak check this out :

daring cargo
#

then in the terminal type

cd ~

muted vine
#

6 Mebibytes for a folder inode???

#

and that's the one with trouble

daring cargo
crisp eagle
#

No, it was like 13000 media things but only a few folders if I remember

daring cargo
#

still a lot of stuff

crisp eagle
#

okay, I unmounted it and I wll run the ntfs fix command, right?

#

No, how would I even do that if it was unmounted

daring cargo
#

yes

sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda4

crisp eagle
#

Oh, well I got this while it was unmounted

andrew@ark:~$ sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda4
[sudo] password for andrew:
Mounting volume... The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
FAILED
Attempting to correct errors...
Processing $MFT and $MFTMirr...
Reading $MFT... OK
Reading $MFTMirr... OK
Comparing $MFTMirr to $MFT... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Setting required flags on partition... OK
Going to empty the journal ($LogFile)... OK
Checking the alternate boot sector... OK
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/sda4 was processed successfully.
andrew@ark:~$
muted vine
#

mkay

#

do sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt

daring cargo
#

re run it again, to be sure though

muted vine
#

then go into /mnt in nemo to see if u can get into all folders

crisp eagle
#

Oh okay,

andrew@ark:~$ sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda4
[sudo] password for andrew:
Mounting volume... The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0).
Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount.
FAILED
Attempting to correct errors...
Processing $MFT and $MFTMirr...
Reading $MFT... OK
Reading $MFTMirr... OK
Comparing $MFTMirr to $MFT... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Setting required flags on partition... OK
Going to empty the journal ($LogFile)... OK
Checking the alternate boot sector... OK
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/sda4 was processed successfully.
andrew@ark:~$ sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda4
Mounting volume... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Checking the alternate boot sector... OK
NTFS volume version is 3.1.
NTFS partition /dev/sda4 was processed successfully.
andrew@ark:~$
``` ( these are the 2 times I ran it, ) okay let me do what stunner asked now
muted vine
#

btw maniak, we had run chkdsk /f on this partition yesterday from windows

crisp eagle
#
andrew@ark:~$ ls "/mnt/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound"
ls: reading directory '/mnt/Users/cples/Downloads/Images videos and memes overlays sound': Input/output error
andrew@ark:~$

yea, doesn't show in nemo either :/

daring cargo
muted vine
#

but it's nice to see this did something

crisp eagle
daring cargo
#

.... but in live session it is read fine

#

strange

muted vine
#

and in Windows

daring cargo
#

@crisp eagle what does

mount | grep mnt

say?

muted vine
#

to Downloads i mean
then run ls -lah --group-directories-first

crisp eagle
muted vine
daring cargo
#

and

sudo apt update && apt policy ntfs-3g

muted vine
#

still same i think

crisp eagle
muted vine
crisp eagle
#

well it tells me

ntfs-3g:
  Installed: 1:2022.10.3-1.2ubuntu3
  Candidate: 1:2022.10.3-1.2ubuntu3
  Version table:
 *** 1:2022.10.3-1.2ubuntu3 500
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
andrew@ark:/mnt/Users/cples/Downloads$
daring cargo
#

@muted vine Do you think windows' fast startup messes with it?

muted vine
#

i think i had him turn it off

daring cargo
#

@crisp eagle Is that the only folder that doesn't show?

crisp eagle
#

and some videos that have sections non existent

#

it's like as I said, linux pretends that 200gb dosen't exist

muted vine
#

try sudo df -h

#

and show result

#

specifically as root

crisp eagle
#
andrew@ark:/$ sudo df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs           3.1G  4.0M  3.1G   1% /run
efivarfs        128K  123K   511 100% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
/dev/nvme0n1p2  938G  826G   65G  93% /
tmpfs            16G   28M   16G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs           5.0M   16K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
/dev/nvme0n1p1  511M  6.2M  505M   2% /boot/efi
overlay         938G  826G   65G  93% /var/lib/docker/rootfs/overlayfs/e08e012e56263e6214fc81a050186266a6f251ad9ed7625816d2971ebf696b13
overlay         938G  826G   65G  93% /var/lib/docker/rootfs/overlayfs/6a361f3b067045c54840da5f1fef3648d111d89feffa16714158230ac904eaad
overlay         938G  826G   65G  93% /var/lib/docker/rootfs/overlayfs/86660ef078a989e8c78e4ae5a05999447c960ebf08be177bc558a091aeec41b2
overlay         938G  826G   65G  93% /var/lib/docker/rootfs/overlayfs/3a4489a12f8549b93aa8ba28bc492aa945fe892d5dc3803cbd7742783e48152e
overlay         938G  826G   65G  93% /var/lib/docker/rootfs/overlayfs/1123b4fe518fd15e8609e40c23741e89d7f7f49d886bd461b5c94369fb96a3d1
tmpfs           3.1G  121M  3.0G   4% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda4       931G  674G  257G  73% /mnt
andrew@ark:/$
``` Also is it safe to have it mounted, I don't want anything on it to acidentally be overwritten
muted vine
#

yes it's the same as clicking it

#

except it's in /mnt

crisp eagle
#

Well when I click it and I right click on files they are uneditable

#

but when I mount this way i can right click them and edit them

#

so would it be okay to unmount it?

muted vine
#

i dont suppose docker is causing this?

crisp eagle
#

dont know why it would

muted vine
#

wait up

crisp eagle
#

ohsiet

muted vine
#

still shows 257 gigs as available

#

even tho in windows, or live mint it was 20ish gigs or 50?

crisp eagle
#

Should I unmount now? i really dont want anything to be overwritten. sorry just being cautious

muted vine
#

sure

#

can click stop in Disks for it

#

did u install winboat by chance?

crisp eagle
#

i did

muted vine
#

go to startup applications in settings

#

turn off any autostart toggle related to docker or winboat

#

then reboot

crisp eagle
#

well, docker nor winboat show up in there so I have to systemctl or systemd stome stuff

muted vine
#

ok

#

well do that then if that's how u had set it to autostart

#

i have a hunch maybe its affecting the ntfs

#

in live mode, was not

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

okay ima reboot now

muted vine
# crisp eagle

reference, in live mode (white DISKS app) 29 metric gigs free

muted vine
crisp eagle
#
andrew@ark:~$ sudo df -h
[sudo] password for andrew:
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs           3.1G  2.4M  3.1G   1% /run
efivarfs        128K  126K     0 100% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
/dev/nvme0n1p2  938G  826G   65G  93% /
tmpfs            16G   12K   16G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs           5.0M   20K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
/dev/nvme0n1p1  511M  6.2M  505M   2% /boot/efi
tmpfs           3.1G  188K  3.1G   1% /run/user/1000
andrew@ark:~$ cd /
andrew@ark:/$ sudo df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs           3.1G  2.4M  3.1G   1% /run
efivarfs        128K  126K     0 100% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
/dev/nvme0n1p2  938G  826G   65G  93% /
tmpfs            16G     0   16G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs           5.0M   20K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
/dev/nvme0n1p1  511M  6.2M  505M   2% /boot/efi
tmpfs           3.1G  188K  3.1G   1% /run/user/1000
andrew@ark:/$ sudo df -h
Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs           3.1G  2.3M  3.1G   1% /run
efivarfs        128K  126K     0 100% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
/dev/nvme0n1p2  938G  826G   65G  93% /
tmpfs            16G     0   16G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs           5.0M   20K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
/dev/nvme0n1p1  511M  6.2M  505M   2% /boot/efi
tmpfs           3.1G  188K  3.1G   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sda4       931G  674G  257G  73% /media/andrew/F0EC68E4EC68A696
``` *before and after mounting
#

i dont think docker is related

muted vine
#

why u ran it 3 times?

#

oh sda4

crisp eagle
#

oh, I meant 2. To show the befoer and after

muted vine
#

257 GiB FSAVAIL

#

boot live and check the ntfs-3g version

crisp eagle
#

Oh, didn't I tell you what it was last time

muted vine
#

no

crisp eagle
#

it was the same as installed linux but I can check again

muted vine
#

ya check again

crisp eagle
#

k

muted vine
#

you might as well copy stuff from live

#

then just reformat the whole sda to BTRFS or ext4

crisp eagle
#

k

#

really weird what linux was doing :d

#

would it be okay to transfer the files on windows then format when on linux
i think that would be safer

muted vine
#

yes

#

that had been my first suggestion

crisp eagle
#

Wait can windows properly deal with ext

muted vine
#

no

#

how big is your nvme?

crisp eagle
#

1tb

muted vine
#

or if you have an external good hard drive, use that. ensure it's in exFAT format

crisp eagle
#

I don't have an external drive with that size
So would it be okay to use live boot here

muted vine
#

no

#

do u have the external hdd ???

#

wait

crisp eagle
#

I have the one im using I think I have a few random old ones here and there

muted vine
#

see your nvme is already 92% full or so

crisp eagle
#

No it's fine

#

It's when I transferred that big downloads folder

#

I can delete it from it's end

muted vine
#

so do it from live mint

crisp eagle
#

Okay live mint I delete doenloads from nvme and bring over the one from hdd

#

Sound good?

muted vine
#

delete what u dont want on the nvme , sure

#

and put exactly what gives trouble on the NTFS seagate onto the nvme

#

plus anything else

crisp eagle
#

I will delete the whole folder probably since there are like 20000 different weird things that went wrong. Anyways tysm

crisp eagle
muted vine
#

EXT4 if you don't need that, but I will recommend to tune the filesystem after.

crisp eagle
#

Okay, everything is okay now I guess, but (just if you know) since I'm curious do you maybe know what caused this whole issue?

muted vine
#

nope

#

did you reformat?

#

@crisp eagle

crisp eagle
#

yes I did

muted vine
#

the whole drive, or just one partition?

crisp eagle
#

sda4

muted vine
#

oh

#

what filesystem u pick?

crisp eagle
#

ext4

muted vine
#

did u take ownership of it?

crisp eagle
#

I, don't think I did?

muted vine
#

(unless you did it from Disks app, then you already have ownership)

crisp eagle
#

ah I did it via terminal, okay I mean I can redo it via disks app

muted vine
#

no need to redo

#

but u can use the Disks app to take ownership of sda4

crisp eagle
#

yea I just realized lol

#

okay well, thank you so much for all the help. and the other people, I'll mark this as solved :)

muted vine
crisp eagle
#

ooh

muted vine
#

since this is data drive, set to 0

#

^ also an informative watch.