#Trying Mint again.

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ornate remnant
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A couple of months ago, I test drove mint and kept having issues getting my 3060ti to boot right. Using the 535 driver I had decent success, it would boot right all night, until the next day where i have been having a series of unsuccessful boots, after the mint logo everything goes black. Oddly enough... if i cold boot and enter bios, then exit without saving, it seems to be more likely to boot.

I threw my crash log into chatgpt (great idea i know) and it narrowed the problem down to this.
ldd /bin/eglinfo | grep EGL
libEGL.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL.so.1 (0x00007c30e40fd000)

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#1  __pthread_kill_internal (signo=6, threadid=<optimized out>) at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:78
#2  __GI___pthread_kill (threadid=<optimized out>, signo=signo@entry=6) at ./nptl/pthread_kill.c:89
#3  0x000075cb2284527e in __GI_raise (sig=sig@entry=6) at ../sysdeps/posix/raise.c:26
#4  0x000075cb228288ff in __GI_abort () at ./stdlib/abort.c:79```
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#6  0x000075cb228a8ff5 in malloc_printerr (str=str@entry=0x75cb229cc5e8 "corrupted size vs. prev_size") at ./malloc/malloc.c:5775
#7  0x000075cb228a9b96 in unlink_chunk (p=<optimized out>, av=<optimized out>) at ./malloc/malloc.c:1611
#8  0x000075cb228a9d2b in malloc_consolidate (av=av@entry=0x75cb22a03ac0 <main_arena>) at ./malloc/malloc.c:4876
#9  0x000075cb228aba90 in _int_malloc (av=av@entry=0x75cb22a03ac0 <main_arena>, bytes=bytes@entry=156536) at ./malloc/malloc.c:4041
#10 0x000075cb228ae951 in __libc_calloc (n=<optimized out>, elem_size=<optimized out>) at ./malloc/malloc.c:3754```
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#12 0x000075cb20942701 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-eglcore.so.535.288.01
#13 0x000075cb20942782 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-eglcore.so.535.288.01
#14 0x000075cb20942950 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnvidia-eglcore.so.535.288.01
#15 0x000075cb22442f72 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_nvidia.so.0
#16 0x000075cb224485a4 in ?? () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL_nvidia.so.0```
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#18 0x000056576f675563 in ?? ()
#19 0x000056576f66d710 in ?? ()
#20 0x000075cb2282a1ca in __libc_start_call_main (main=main@entry=0x56576f66d440, argc=argc@entry=1, argv=argv@entry=0x7fffc777ffe8) at ../sysdeps/nptl/libc_start_call_main.h:58
#21 0x000075cb2282a28b in __libc_start_main_impl (main=0x56576f66d440, argc=1, argv=0x7fffc777ffe8, init=<optimized out>, fini=<optimized out>, rtld_fini=<optimized out>, stack_end=0x7fffc777ffd8) at ../csu/libc-start.c:360
#22 0x000056576f66db85 in ?? ()
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this is the GDB Backtrace

errant tundra
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idk what to make of such log but check out #1429152383018991697 message

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typically live boot is done in compat. mode, then real boot is done as step 1 above, til driver is installed and APPLIED

ornate remnant
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"Using the 535 driver I had decent success" it was installed through the driver manager

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535 is the one that worked most reliably

errant tundra
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well try latest version now on Mint 22.3, which offers 590-open (proprietary) Nvidia driver. (or 580)

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ensure secure boot is off as far as the linux OS is concerned, as per the link

ornate remnant
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secure boot is off every time i launch linux, i swap hard drives and change that setting every time i swap OS. 22.3+590 bugged out to the point that the OS never launched and i was in something like the terminal. I had to restore a snapshot or whatever its called to just before the update.

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I am still pretty green at linux, but I THINK it may be a race condition... like the OS is trying to "shake hands" with the GPU before it is ready.

ornate remnant
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and... jumping into bios before boot lets the gpu initialize before the OS tries to shake hands

errant tundra
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don't be swapping hard drives from another system that linux was set up on. do a FRESH install to a blankable hard drive/SSD

ornate remnant
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I have 2 SSDs that plug into 2 separate ports. I just dont trust window and linux enough to NOT try killing eachother 🤣

errant tundra
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that's fine, you can install one OS in total isolation of the other

ornate remnant
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So... every time i boot linux... i should boot in compat mode, then boot for real?

errant tundra
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i'm talkinga bout LIVE BOOT. if it doesn't work the default way, use compat. mode.

ornate remnant
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i mean... when it doesnt boot.... theres nothing but black screen

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oh the usb boot, that never failed

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the problem came after installing linux on the ssd

errant tundra
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right so follow exactly were the GPU guide links from

ornate remnant
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yep.... did all that... secure boot was off.

errant tundra
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so you did this POST-INSTALL ?

ornate remnant
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yeah

errant tundra
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so you got in with nomodeset, saw the 'welcome to linux mint' window?

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the one that explains all first steps etc

ornate remnant
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the default driver that doesnt work that great, worked well to get into the OS

errant tundra
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ok so you got in with nouveau

ornate remnant
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I had most of my programs in, and even played some games on steam

errant tundra
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how long ago was this?

ornate remnant
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last night/earlier today, and a couple months ago when i was trying to troubleshoot the same problem, inconsistent successful boots

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when the GPU is initialized before the OS tried to shake hands, everything works like you would expect

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but when the gpu does not initialize before the OS tries to shake hands, i get a black screen and that same error log i put at the top

errant tundra
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you double-check the DC dedicated power connector cable to the nvidia card to ensure it mates firmly, supplies the adequate current?

ornate remnant
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yeah its fine... also it has NO problems in windows, which i am on right now

errant tundra
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try tuxedo os or zorin. might have better luck since they come with nvidia support already in. or cachy os same

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also turn win fast startup off in case it's leaving the uefi in a hampered state, thus not loading driver properly

ornate remnant
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🤣 i always have the fast boot off

errant tundra
ornate remnant
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oh didnt know there was a fast startup in linux, I would bet willing to be if the os waited 3-5 seconds this issue would likely disappear

errant tundra
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it's in Windows, known as fast startup, to be precise

ornate remnant
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oh... i disabled the one in windows as well

errant tundra
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the one called 'Fast boot' is in uefi/bios settings

ornate remnant
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yeah its off in bios as well

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If you know someone thats on the dev side of things, i'd be willing to throw the drive back in and replicate the error for them

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I REALLY want mint to work for me... the OS is great

errant tundra
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idk what the issue is. it almost always works just like the manual guide says to do it

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as 99.9% of the time

ornate remnant
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egh.... i would win the stupid lottery

errant tundra
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disable igpu if have one

ornate remnant
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thanks for the help man! I guess ill give it a shot in a few more months

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its a 3060ti, not an igpu

errant tundra
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did u try any other linux to see if it works? like Zorin OS or Tuxedo? both geared for nvidia out-of-the-box

ornate remnant
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Popos failed to boot, but it comes with the 580 or 590 driver, that one didn't work on mint either. At this point I might have to wait until my next PC build for linux