Too long boot time

[abstract laurel]

I use Linux Mint on my computer and it takes alot of time to boot, like first there's a black screen and only after that it boots up.
For comparison it's even slower than mine windows 10 boot time.

[bitter hare]

Did you install it on ssd?

@abstract laurel

[abstract laurel]

Hdd

[bitter hare]

After a restart, open the terminal and type

systemd-analyze

show results

[abstract laurel]

Ok

[abstract laurel]

For some reason I can't send the image @bitter hare

Nvm here it is

[bitter hare]

46 seconds isn't that bad for HDD

[abstract laurel]

But I feel like my windows 10 boot speed was quicker

And even the application opening times

Like the entire reason I got mint is to make my pc quicker

And also have security updates as windows 10 shut down

@bitter hare

[bitter hare]

What does

inxi -dpxxx

say?

[graceful aspen]

linux isn't always faster, i genuinely hate this bullshit going around that linux is the holy os that will make anything 50x faster

[bitter hare]

I mean, it does generally run faster than windows, because of less background processes, but you can't go above your hardware, so HDD will still boot / start programs slower

[abstract laurel]

But how is it slower than windows

The boot, i get that it will be slow, but why is it slower than windows 10 boot

[bitter hare]

Windows tend to use fast startup feature that keeps some data in ram on shutdown (as I understand), so it might look a bit faster

[abstract laurel]

Well it does

Atleast for older machines

Older machines can run linux mint better than newer windows

[graceful aspen]

perhaps linux just optimizes for SSDs

or your disk is very fragmented

[graceful aspen]

of course it does, given you have hardware that plays nice

can't be too new, neither too old

[abstract laurel]

How can I know that?

[bitter hare]

What does

systemd-analyze blame

and

systemd-analyze critical-chain

say?

[true sluice]

not if fast boot/startup is enabled, Windows with it enabled uses a hibernation approach (evident by uptime continuously increasing) while not actually shutting down.

which bypasses reinitialization of the boot process and enumeration of the hardware, it's a trick they use

[abstract laurel]

Wait up

[abstract laurel]

@bitter hare

[graceful aspen]

if linux is installed on the Hdd then that's why it boots much slower

Hdd is always slower than SSD

but i'm not sure what the situation is here exactly. Is there an SSD with windows and an HDD with linux in the computer?

[abstract laurel]

No

Only HDD, but linux mint boots slower than windows

It's not dual boot

I uninstalled windows

[graceful aspen]

but what about normal usage? like, after it boots, does the system work well?

[abstract laurel]

Honestly sometimes no

Sometimes even downloading something on steam lags the computer

Didn't used to happen on windoes

[graceful aspen]

i used to have linux mint on my hdd too, but it worked fine. i guess it really depends on hardware

[abstract laurel]

Intel HD 4400
6GB RAM

[abstract laurel]

Like it runs normal but just sometimes it doesn't
My main concern is the boot time

[graceful aspen]

boot time is a little bit slower for me too, even on SSD, but to me it's fine, i don't mind it

at least the system works great after boot

[abstract laurel]

Is there any cleanup option in Linux? To make it faster or something?

[graceful aspen]

there might be some tricks or "optimisations", but i don't know much about them

Linux seems like it's optimised for SSD more. But again, i had it installed on my old HDD too and it was fine

but for some people sometimes the specific hardware combination can just be quirky

[graceful aspen]

you could try running this command: sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service

[abstract laurel]

I am honestly thinking about switching

[graceful aspen]

that command can make boot a little bit faster

for some people it made a big difference

also, you installed mint cinnamon, right?

[abstract laurel]

Yes

?

Cinnamon is the best one right

[graceful aspen]

yes

another question, do you use Bluetooth?

if you don't use Bluetooth, then you can search in the menu Startup Applications and disable bluetooth

[abstract laurel]

I think it's alrdy disabled

[abstract laurel]

I'll try this later and let u know

[graceful aspen]

try that, but you should also try to disable the Bluetooth (go in Startup Applications and disable bluetooth)

i looked at the photos, and the bluetooth thing is taking extra 10 seconds of boot

[abstract laurel]

But it's already disbaled in the startup application

"bluetooth applet" off

[graceful aspen]

run this in the terminal: sudo systemctl disable --now bluetooth.service

[abstract laurel]

Okk

Dobe

Done