Hello, trying to decide between buying 9060 XT or 5060 TI for AI usage. Is NVIDIA support for Linux Mint really that bad compared to AMD? What are your experiences making 5060 TI work in Linux Mint for AI? I haven't tried running LLMs or image/video generators locally so I'm not sure yet what specific models I would be running.
#9060 XT or 5060 TI for Linux Mint?
sand mango
novel oxide
NVIDIA has far more driver problems than AMD because the open source teams don't have full access to what the driver is doing to ensure compatibility and the company historically doesn't care much.
With that said, I've been making NVIDIA hardware work with only one major hiccup since March, so it's not unusable.
sand mango
With that said, I've been making NVIDIA hardware work with only one major hiccup...
Are you able to use all the features of the graphics card?
novel oxide
As far as I know?
That'd be something to check Nvidia documentation for to be sure.
My card is only a 4060, so probably lacks some of the features, but I have used it for certain AI tasks like upscaling.
I have no baseline for how long that would take otherwise though, my old PC couldn't even consider it 😛
sand mango
Also do you find that it breaks regularly? Or is each problem something that you fix once and never encounter again?
novel oxide
Honestly I have had very few problems, usually related to configuration things working differently or certain suggested settings from windows not seeming to exist in the nvidiax application
I primarily use my machine for gaming though
probably the hardest issue I had to solve was learning that I had to put LD_Preload " " in front of my game launches in steam if they are 3d applications because I don't use the steam overlay and the mouse control would gradually de-sync
However I'm led to believe that I have been quite lucky. 😛
I fully intend to replace this card with an AMD card whenever I do my mid-generation upgrade
Unless Nvidia actually goes FOSS with their drivers in the interim, which I doubt. 😄
pliant scarab
What do you exactly mean by AI usage? There are some libraries (like PyTorch) that can run on Radeon but strongly prefers Nvidia CUDA. While for others it is not so important. Also keep in midn that currently 5xxx family is, let's say, unstable. In comparably price you could get 4070 that is both more predictable, and powerful
summer arch
generally speaking, especially between hardware that is otherwise similar in performance, amd will work better on linux. it depends if you have app requirements that need cuda to work well.
i'm on linux as an nvidia user and it's fine, just be aware.
sand mango
What do you exactly mean by AI usage? There are some libraries (like PyTorch) t...
LLMs, speech recognition, image & video generation
Would 5xxx become more stable as time passes?
summer arch
one would hope, but rtx 40 series and afaik amd 90 series are stable now.
it's really uncertain since it's been months and rtx 50 still is afaik not wholly fixed.
pliant scarab
Would 5xxx become more stable as time passes?
Hard to say. I feel like this time Nvidia rushed with the release. Even under Windows there are smaller or bigger flaws. And Linux was never top priority platform for green team. Yes, it is improving over time, but will it reach stability of rtx40 gen? We can only guessing.
novel oxide
Yeah, my friend with a 50 series card has complained a lot about poor driver support and crashing issues on win11
Like.. They are releasing driver updates but not quality checking them well is my impression.
sand mango
Oh that sucks, not even Windows is safe
How does 9060 XT compare then in terms of stability/support?
gilded bear
I have a 5070ti, the 5000 series drivers are open source but only compatible with newer kernels.
I'm on arch and don't have any problems regarding stability/compatibility with my dual monitor setup. I use wayland and not Xorg, so I don't know the mint compatibility there.
sage flicker
I'd say the nvidia 5060. the amd one doesnt launch on Mint.
raw hornet
It should as long as the version is 22.2