Distro on a 64gb stick

[shut raven]

Is there a way to fully run a distro straight from a 64gb HP stick with it saving data ?

[gentle knoll]

dont

[long lintel]

yes, ventoy is capable of that,i read. u need to enable and set the reserved space with "Option" ---> "Partition Configuration" (Windows) or "-r" option (Linux).
maybe an additional step (remount) is also needed.
all in the documentation.

[shut raven]

Don't don't me 🤑

[shut raven]

Alr I'll try tom or later 🤑

[long lintel]

i see now you came from https://discord.com/channels/628978428019736619/1427206791728599050 and you are using ventoy already...

[gentle knoll]

ok do if you want

[shut raven]

Wait ventor does that ?

[shut raven]

Wait r u mad

I'm sorry

[long lintel]

well... i didn't try it by myself.

[gentle knoll]

lol no its fine

[shut raven]

Ig I'll see later 🙏

[dire canyon]

It's not recommended, it puts a lot of stress on the flash storage

And they're really slow too

[shut raven]

Just experienced it first hand 😭

[long lintel]

... but NOW i did and it works! i created a GUID partition table (GPT) and then an exFAT partition.

[sour narwhal]

here's the deal:

• splitting a thumb drive with ventoy wont save any changes, only files you create or save to the other part

• ventoy has a persistence option, setup through a dat file, and the vtoy plugin

• rufus, and universal usb installer can do this more easily

• a TRUE full install, (none of the above) requires 2 usbs

(the first three point above just run a live distro, the 2nd and 3rd are considered persistent-live)

[sour narwhal]

and that. ^

see also:
mini OS

mx linux (persistent live capability)
puppy linux

nomad BSD

[shut raven]

Ykw

I'm just gonna split my drive 🙏

[sour narwhal]

If you mean the internal one.

or install onto an external one, example: #1426219144499564618 message

[shut raven]

I'm on a laptop so no way am I getting an external one

[shut raven]

I mean internal one

[sour narwhal]

then that's a called a single-drive dualboot

just make sure Windows Fast Startup, and Bitlocker are off on the internal drive

for it to work, or work well with longevity

[shut raven]

I don't have windows installed anywhere

I erased it

Formated the whole drive and then installed Linux

[sour narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/alrighty-then-jim-carrey-ace-ventura-gif-20187128

[sour narwhal]

just as an FYI, if you do want a portable distro (for light usage, and saves your settings as you wish them to be - check out MX linux and/or miniOS , as they come with that capability for thumb drives)

[shut raven]

Can you run Linux on an external drive?

Like an externally add / HDD

Wait I don't think that's how it works 😭

Can an SSD run without being inside the computer ?

[sour narwhal]

i just SAID u can

i even linked u the example post

[shut raven]

Ohh so it's the same for SSD and a storage stick ?

[sour narwhal]

like temmie said, it's not great on a thumb drive

but for sporadic , LIGHT, portable use, it's ok

[shut raven]

So it can't run here ?

[sour narwhal]

.

[shut raven]

Yeah sorry I'm really dumb

I also sent the image b4 ur message

It's just laggy

So new question 🤑

Can an SSD run without being inside the laptop ?

[sour narwhal]

yes with the dongle

[sour narwhal]

look in link

[shut raven]

Al4

[sour narwhal]

in their case, it's a m.2 ssd enclosure to usb c

[shut raven]

Ok so to summarize

I can run Linux on it

It works without being on the laptop

It saves data written on it

[sour narwhal]

yes. one caveat

[shut raven]

But where does it get it's memory? From the laptop itself ?

[shut raven]

Hmm?

[sour narwhal]

in that guy's case, he had to use boot repair tool, with advanced option

i kept telling him, take the internal ssd/hdd out before installing to the external, but he simply couldnt

[shut raven]

Can't I just plug it in my laptop, sense it as another external drive then use an external stick to install Linux on it ?

[shut raven]

Yeah " easy " 😭🙏🥀

[sour narwhal]

install externally on a desktop pc then

[shut raven]

Even my dad who's an IT specialist is scared to open laptops

[shut raven]

Much easier on a PC but in that guys case, he has a laptop

And laptops aren't usually disassembled

[sour narwhal]

unlike Windows, the distro can be used on another laptop/pc after installed externally

[shut raven]

Oh alr

[sour narwhal]

AS LONG AS THE BOOTLOADER got put right

(which means, put on the external)

[shut raven]

It should work ?

[sour narwhal]

(and it will, easily, if u unplug other drives)

[shut raven]

Alr

I'll ask my dad if he has an extra SSD

[shut raven]

Trying it now

Got a 750gb hdd

Helo

Help

Nyarch isn't detecting my hdd

Nvm it sensed it

It just won't let me download it

[gentle knoll]

try reconnecting the cable

also damn this gui is really the same as the partition editor in the mint installer

[gentle knoll]

whats the problem in here

[sour narwhal]

in such cases, where you took all other drives out, you simply use the 'erase and install' option. no sense fiddling around with manual installation like so, if you're not an expert!

otherwise, you gotta edit the sdb1 with the button. set up a 100 to 300 MB EFI partition, then setup a 75 to 700 GIB ext4 partition for linux root, mountpoint is /

[shut raven]

So apparently my new drive wasn't a got drive...

[sour narwhal]

you mean a good drive?

GUID partition table.

u can fix that up easily from gparted in the live desktop

@shut raven

it shouldnt matter anyway at all

as long as there's an EFI partition, and a root partition

and the drive's smaller than or equal to 2 TiB for mbr partition schemes

[shut raven]

Gpt

Sorry autocorrect broke it

[shut raven]

Idk it was a Toshiba drive so it's pretty old

[sour narwhal]

doesnt matter as long as it's in good health

[sour narwhal]

did u wipe and redo it as shown above?

[shut raven]

Yes

Wait

I'll start it now

[sour narwhal]

did u pull out the internal drive on a desktop pc, (disconnect) and then install linux to the external yet?

[shut raven]

So many fancy words let me process it 🥀

What my answer is from what I understand: the hdd I just got it from my dad Idk if it was from an old laptop or not and I have another drive in my laptop ( forgive my answer it's very dumb since I am dumb 🤑)

[shut raven]

Did 10 times

[shut raven]

It won't let me install on the external hdd

[sour narwhal]

do u have this?

[shut raven]

@sour narwhal my friend gave me smth I'll try it first

[shut raven]

Image isn't loading

[sour narwhal]

what?

[shut raven]

Not loading on my side

Wait it is now

[sour narwhal]

https://www.amazon.ca/Adapter-Cable-VCOM-Driver-Support/dp/B097PY3SLL/

[shut raven]

No I have the full case

[sour narwhal]

k

go to a computer

a DESKTOP COMPUTER

NOW

[shut raven]

Don't have one

[sour narwhal]

bring your usb thumb drive with mint iso

[shut raven]

Only the portable one

[sour narwhal]

and ur enclosure with sata drive

can u take the internal drive out of that?

[shut raven]

Nah

Easier said than done 👍

[sour narwhal]

u can still install but

what the heck is Nyarch?

[shut raven]

Weeb arch

Arch anime edition

[sour narwhal]

ok boot up the live usb stick

[shut raven]

Js don't ask I don't like revealing it in public 🙏

[sour narwhal]

then plug the external hdd once at desktop

[shut raven]

Alr

[shut raven]

So once I'm in the stick, I plug in the drive ?

[sour narwhal]

once ur at the live desktop

make sure to boot uefi mode

[sour narwhal]

u got something like that , using the boot menu key at power-on?

[shut raven]

Ok new problem that I think is causing me not to be able to download things on the hdd

[sour narwhal]

dw about that yet

u in the desktop?

[shut raven]

I can't even mount it 🙏

[sour narwhal]

nvm that!

open terminal

do efibootmgr

n show complete result

[sour narwhal]

do cat /etc/issue n state result

[shut raven]

LM 22.1 xia \n \l

[sour narwhal]

i thought u were installing nyaarch?

[shut raven]

Wait

I do it on nyarch?

[sour narwhal]

well which ever bugger u expect to install ofc

[shut raven]

Holy shit am I dumb 🥀

I'm gonna boot into ventoy now

[sour narwhal]

make sure as uefi like in pic here

[shut raven]

F2 for dynabook motherboard ?

[sour narwhal]

i guess

whatever gets u to a boot devices menu

when u get to ventoy screen look at bottom left corner

it should be saying UEFI

[shut raven]

I got jumpscared...

It was showing Linux mint logo then it suddenly jumped to terminal 😭

1.1.07 uefi

[sour narwhal]

on ventoy

start nyaarch iso from there

[shut raven]

Alr

Normal or grub2?

[sour narwhal]

normal

always normal.

[sour narwhal]

minimize it

open terminal,

maximize terminal

and do sudo parted -l

and also whereis gparted

and show

[sour narwhal]

u didnt listen.

i said maximize the terminal

[shut raven]

Sorry 🙏

[sour narwhal]

also u must plug in ur external drive now

[shut raven]

Alr

[sour narwhal]

then repeat sudo parted -l

[shut raven]

Atleast someone is staring at you whole you manage my console 🤑

[sour narwhal]

idc

[shut raven]

Gparted is somewhere far away

[sour narwhal]

i only see two drives

plug IN THE EXTERNAL DRIVE NOW

[sour narwhal]

.

[shut raven]

I'm sorry 🙏

[sour narwhal]

connect to the internet on this live environment

u have to get some things first before u can install

[shut raven]

How I don't have ethernet

[sour narwhal]

how do u normally connect?

[shut raven]

On my main via wifi

[sour narwhal]

so do it

from this environment

minimize terminal

[shut raven]

Done

[sour narwhal]

go back to terminal

do ping msn.com

[shut raven]

Ok

Temporary failure in name resolution

[sour narwhal]

do u get reply pings and times?

ping 1.1.1.1

[shut raven]

Network is unreachable

[sour narwhal]

ffs

take the laptop to ur router then

and plug in ethernet

[shut raven]

It's downstairs in a very high place hidden within a locked cabinet with no table to support the laptop

[sour narwhal]

or just test a different way

open a browser

go to whatever website

does it load?

[shut raven]

Nah

[sour narwhal]

did u connect to wifi?

[shut raven]

I'm finding a way

Holy shit I was on network instead of wifi 😭😭😭

[sour narwhal]

are u online now?

[shut raven]

Yeah

[sour narwhal]

tested website?

[shut raven]

Works

[sour narwhal]

back to terminal

whereis inxi

any path or blank?

[shut raven]

Inxi is hiding from me since even the GPS collar I gave it is gone 💔 ( blank )

[sour narwhal]

lowercase i

whereis inxi

[shut raven]

It is lowercase I

[sour narwhal]

so it's no path resulting?

[shut raven]

None

[sour narwhal]

ok np

sudo pacman -Syu

do that first

when it's done, do:

[shut raven]

I love download animations ❤️

I see Nvidia firmware ...

[sour narwhal]

sudo pacman -S inxi gparted gnome-disk-utility

type very precisely

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

shouldn't take long, those are small utilities

tell me when it's done

[shut raven]

It's done

[sour narwhal]

kool

plz do inxi -S and show

[sour narwhal]

mind the capitals.

do clear

then inxi -S

and reshow

[shut raven]

Don't mind the first image it's a missclick

[sour narwhal]

k minimize that

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

idk friggin gnome well, but hit the app icon

or the win key

and start gparted.

[shut raven]

Superkey but ok

None

[sour narwhal]

type it good

like i wrote it

[shut raven]

Sorry I'm blind 🥀

Uhh what's the password of live ?

[sour narwhal]

try press just enter

[shut raven]

Not letting me

Got in

Default password is live

[sour narwhal]

ok choose the toshiba drive in the top right menu

750 gig

[shut raven]

Still searching

[sour narwhal]

this.

make friggin SUReE

[shut raven]

It's not letting me click anything

[sour narwhal]

cuz it will wipe that drive selected

[shut raven]

Wait it only fixed now

[sour narwhal]

copy what the pic shows.

after choosing the Toshiba drive

[shut raven]

The only drive showing is my internal drive

[sour narwhal]

click the dropdown box

[shut raven]

Ok I saw it

[sour narwhal]

god...

[shut raven]

Sorry I'm dumb 🙏

[sour narwhal]

try ignore

[sour narwhal]

ignore

show the result

[sour narwhal]

do it from LInux mint then.

restart the machine.

[shut raven]

It changed to unallocated

[sour narwhal]

ok finally

[sour narwhal]

this is blocking shit. close this program

[shut raven]

Wdym

[sour narwhal]

close THAT PROGRAM

what's shown in the attachment

[shut raven]

Ok

It's closed

[sour narwhal]

back to gparted

right click the new unallocated space

and do "New"

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

primary partition

at start of drive

size: 300 MiB

filesystem type: Fat32

[shut raven]

Ok

[shut raven]

Can I add extra to be safe ?

[sour narwhal]

no

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

label put ESP

then hit the add button

[shut raven]

Ok

Done

[sour narwhal]

next, go to the VIEW menu in gparted

and select 'show device information'

whatever opens the sidebar info thing

then show photo of the whole window

[sour narwhal]

i said show the WHOLE window

anyways, click the big checkmark now

in the toolbar

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

show full main window once it's done

[sour narwhal]

ignore

[sour narwhal]

does it complete?

make sure the wires are fitted snug

the SATA part and the usb part

n hit Retry

ignore

does it complete?

[shut raven]

Nope

[shut raven]

This happened again

[sour narwhal]

ok restart the machine. go to linux Mint and do it.

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

got it, @shut raven

[shut raven]

It's in the proceA

[sour narwhal]

show gparted in Mint after the 300 MB partition is made

with the sidebar showing too. the FULL window

[shut raven]

Did it beautifully

[sour narwhal]

ook right click on sda1 there (the ESP)

and do 'manage flags'

remove the msftdata flag,

[shut raven]

Done

[sour narwhal]

put the boot and esp flag

[shut raven]

Wait

It won't let me

Nvm

Done

[sour narwhal]

these are the ONLY TWO flags that should now show in the main window, under the Flags column, for that first partition

is that correct?

[shut raven]

Yes sir

[sour narwhal]

ok, right click the remaining free space

[shut raven]

Ok

[sour narwhal]

and do NEW

primary partition, size (whole remaining) , type : ext4 , label: Nyarch

[shut raven]

Done

[sour narwhal]

click the big checkmark now

[shut raven]

What's a check mark

[sour narwhal]

omggg

[shut raven]

Jk

[sour narwhal]

let it apply n make the changes

once it's done, close gparted, and unplug that toshiba drive from the pc

[sour narwhal]

what's the error?

[shut raven]

Lemme see

Check the link in important

[sour narwhal]

what?

[sour narwhal]

move that FUCKING THING OUT THE WAY

what's the error say behind!?!

or hit save details n show

[shut raven]

No error

Save details

[sour narwhal]

pop that side arrow down at left

[shut raven]

In save details ?

[sour narwhal]

no, save the file, but not there

click "Other Locations"

go to filesystem:

[sour narwhal]

home> your user folder

when u saved the htm file, drag it into this chat

[shut raven]

I closed it -_-

[sour narwhal]

IDITO

i give up

that drive seems unreliable AF anyway

[shut raven]

🙏

[sour narwhal]

get a better drive.

[shut raven]

I can't 🥀

[sour narwhal]

well then forget it

[shut raven]

🥀

Alr then

[sour narwhal]

either that usb bridge cable is shit/unreliable or the drive is

[shut raven]

Would you buy me an SSD 🥺

[sour narwhal]

no

[shut raven]

💔

[sour narwhal]

u can run tests on that external drive on your own time, with the DISKS app in its menus

[shut raven]

Ok

@sour narwhal

It's finally letting me install it 😭🙏

I'm so happy

Tysm

[shut raven]

Nvm

It failed 🥀