i dont have bluetooth at all

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so i was trying to fix my bluetooth headphones not connecting because as i went to connect them the device just sort of faded away from the ui and then idek what i did and now i dont have bluetooth if someone could please help ill be thankful ill do anything for my good headset back 😭

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check in terminal whereis blueman

no path means it's not installed

reinstall that

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how does one install it then? because i believe me trying to install it caused this

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sudo apt install blueman

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okay now what?

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check the settings panel

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well i finally got it but it didnt fix my original problem of my headset not apperaing

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do rfkill --output-all command

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what is taht supposed to do cause all it did was display like 4 things 3 being wlan and 1 being bluetooth

[fresh drift]

what's it say for bluetooth precisely?

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1 bluetooth acer-bluetooth Bluetooth unblocked unblocked

oh wait nvm i read it wrong there is another bluetooth device

[fresh drift]

ok then look up the specific instructions on how to put your headphones into discoverable mode

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3 bluetooth hci0 Bluetooth unblocked unblocked

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ight imma try that

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then after they're put into discoverable mode, click 'search new device' in toolbar of blueman app in settings

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blueman app in settings?

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open system settings.

u said it showed up aqgain

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when i search up blue or blueman the only thing that comes up is bluetooth

no blueman

[fresh drift]

if u didnt learn by now, it's the same thing

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ahhhh

so i just click search? cause there is a thing labeled device but its grayed out

all i got is some 4k box

[sterile star]

Blueman is the bluetooth manager.

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wait how the hell do i find it then unless im just mentally challenged or smth

[sterile star]

Ok, so what’s your issue again? From the messages I’m not sure if you’ve made any progress in fixing it. 😆

[sinful ledge]

so ive aquired bluetooth back dont know how to get into blueman or whatever its called and my headset wont connect anymore after being able to connect it before

[sterile star]

Blueman is the bluetooth manager used not just by Mint, it doesn't matter how the distro calls it.

It's just one type of Bluetooth managers you use on Linux and we call it "blueman" because terminal/system calls it "blueman"

It's this:

[sinful ledge]

do should i have the adapter or the other thing cause i have that on my screen rn but it has nothing in it

[sterile star]

Did you go to settings > Bluetooth and tried to click "Search"

[sinful ledge]

yes

all i got was some tv

[fresh drift]

put your headphones in discoverable mode

[sterile star]

wait, do you have bluetooth on some other device too?

[sinful ledge]

like turned on?

yes on my phones

[fresh drift]

then, and only then , click the Search button

[sinful ledge]

my headphones are on and discoverable considering my phone has no trouble finding them and connecting to them

[fresh drift]

no cuz ur phone already knew them

(in all likelihood, they were previously paired to it, quite some time ago)

with earbuds, often putting them into their charging case, then removing them from said case puts them into discoverable mode for 2 minutes.

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i mean yeah but ive also connected them to my laptop just yesterday and i saw i could connect them today once i turned my laptop on but then the option just went away and i literally mean it faded away

[fresh drift]

yeah idk what u mean

the graphic icon faded from the list in Bluetooth Manager?

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yeah

exactly

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this list

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yes from that list the option was there and then quite literally faded away

[fresh drift]

well if it picks up your or your neighbour's bluetooth-enabled TV, then it's not the computer or the OS probably

your RF channels are not blocked. Proven by rfkill earlier

[sterile star]

Same thing happend to me on Windows but with WiFi then I found out the company that made the adapter isn't doing updates to the driver and system kept reminding me error: "Adapter(Hardware) suddenly disconnected"

[sinful ledge]

so what should i actually reastically do then cause if i have to like reinstall the os i might do cause im still looking around at different types of os

[fresh drift]

wait, did u recently let some update go thru in Mint?

[sterile star]

Run sudo apt install --reinstall blueman first in the terminal, then reboot.

This will reinstall the Bluetooth manager in case It got corrupted.

[fresh drift]

a new linux kernel or firmware?

[sinful ledge]

new linux os like something different

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okay imma do it rn wish me luck

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no no im asking, DID U LET an update thru recently?

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wait

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i mean after the option went away i updated everything but that was after nothing before i dont believe

[fresh drift]

right.

[sterile star]

Did you update the kernel?

[fresh drift]

well you can try a purge first.. this will clear any residual settings for blueman.

[sinful ledge]

idk how to do that

[sterile star]

Yeah

[fresh drift]

to purge and reinstall:
sudo apt purge blueman
then once it's finished, sudo apt install blueman

[sterile star]

Then you didn't

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may also be related to the bluez daemon. We'll find that out in a while after the reinstall above

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i did it through update manager

right i reinstalled it

[fresh drift]

after purging as i wrote?

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yep

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ok do whereis bluez

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bluez:

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open up your System Monitor, and go to the Processes tab

in some titlebar menu button, there's a thing to select 'show processes from all users' . pick that

then click the list of processes > NAME header , to sort alphabetically by name

scroll the list to stuff beginning with bl

see if bluez or bluedevil is running

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the only things beginning with a b is blueman-applet and blueman-tray

[fresh drift]

alright one moment please

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and like 5 bwraps

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Here are the main Bluetooth components that ship with Linux Mint 22.2:

User-facing application

__Blueman Bluetooth Manager__: This is the graphical utility for managing Bluetooth devices. It provides the system tray icon for quick access and offers advanced features not present in the older Blueberry tool, which it replaced in Linux Mint 21. With Blueman, users can manage pairing, monitor connections, and troubleshoot issues. 

Core technology

__BlueZ stack__: Blueman uses BlueZ as its backend, which is the official Linux Bluetooth protocol stack. BlueZ provides low-level drivers and support for the Bluetooth standard and is the foundation for all Bluetooth functionality on Linux.
__bluetoothd__: As the central daemon of the BlueZ stack, bluetoothd handles the low-level management of Bluetooth devices, connections, and services.
__bluetoothctl__: For command-line management, bluetoothctl is a utility that allows users to interact directly with the BlueZ daemon. It can be used to scan, pair, and connect to devices, and is a powerful tool for advanced users or for troubleshooting. 

Kernel module
btusb driver: For systems with a USB Bluetooth adapter, the btusb kernel module is used. This driver is included in the Linux kernel and allows the operating system to interface with the Bluetooth hardware.

open terminal, do inxi -Fxxxz @sinful ledge

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ight i did that

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then press Shift+printscreen for area-screenshot, and send me two of them. the first being the whole section of Network and Bluetooth

the second being the upper section for System and Machine.

@sinful ledge or simply search 'screenshot' in the start menu, and take an area shots of the two sections i asked.

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would i need to blur anything?

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no

it's handled already

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wait what do u mean whole section of network?

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Network: adf.adfja;lgja;lgja;gka;gajkglaj;g

Bluetooth: adlf;adjfladjfk;adlfkja;dfjad;lfkajf;dsajsdfjd;lfjaldfjas

[sterile star]

You think he's missing some?

[sinful ledge]

wut?

[fresh drift]

scroll down (or up) in the inxi -Fxxxz result.

maximize terminal

then show the relevant sections.

or send the whole thing

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idk exactly what i was supposed to be looking for :/

[fresh drift]

that's all i was asking for

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ahhhh okay

[fresh drift]

anyway the driver is there

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so do u maybe know what else it could be?

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follow this: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=425923

you probably blew away the whole bluez thing as mentioned in great detail above in bold

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He doesn't have BlueZ?

[fresh drift]

apparently didnt find much in the process list

nor from whereis

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YES FINALLY

[fresh drift]

got it working?

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yes all i had to do was purge it and install bluez and blueman again

[fresh drift]

mhm

[sterile star]

Well, I can't help much, I've been on Linux only for a year.

I had problems that some of drivers just disapeared but I added them back and didn't have any other issues, meaning idk much about how to fix them.

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idk why cause i had already tried that but finall thank you so much i am forever thankful

[fresh drift]

i see you have a huge hard drive. did u set up Timeshift Snapshots?

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I just know each part of the OS because I like tinkering in terminal

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whats that?

[fresh drift]

open the start menu: type "Welcome"

and read about system snapshots.

I recommend set up a manual one now (use the Create button in TS) and set up a weekly schedule in its setup wizard

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ahhhh okay yeah im gonna set that up cause god forbid something happens

[fresh drift]

now that u got ur system to a good working state

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questionable 😭

[fresh drift]

just use the defaults

except the schedule, just use weekly, save 2

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okay:)

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My drive for Linux has only 128GB, his drive is big 🫡

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i have 2 drives my windows drive is only 512gb

my linux one is a terabyte cause i didnt wanna lose windows just yet

[fresh drift]

if your OS is like 35 GB with programs installed, then basically u need another 35 GB - PER SNAPSHOT

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damn

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so u may elect to just do a manual snapshot, and no schedule

scheduled ones overwrite eachother at intervals

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i mean couldnt i also delete old ones like old old ones?

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it'll overrite pudding

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oh okay so once a new back up happens it deletes the other one cool

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eg.. weekly saving 2 means... in like 2 weeks from now, something extra old will be overwritten

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ahh okay i think i get it

[fresh drift]

but should something happen bad to the os/ programs/ settings in the next whatever ... 8 days or something... u can rollback to today's

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okay great thank you so much for the help

[fresh drift]

yw