I cant update Kernel - polkit permission issue

[pallid lichen]

i need to update to remove old duplicate and solve my crashing issues and black boot screen

[native solar]

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[pallid lichen]

Tried to restart my laptop andddd

I can no longer boot anything on my laptop

[atomic raft]

Can you get to a grub menu?

[thorn mantle]

If you had timeshift enabled you can fix that by booting to the installer and then open timeshift and revert your changes and reboot | Then sudo apt autoremove and go to the software manager and get the latest kernel from there, then reboot and sudo apt autoremove again.

[pallid lichen]

i dont know what that means.. im very very new. i only got it to work for 30 min before this

[pallid lichen]

i tried pressing left shift and stuff but nothing seams to work

[atomic raft]

I think you need to hold left shift

[pallid lichen]

i just tried to use linu /vmlinuz root=/dev/sd4 and stuff like it

i can re try with holding

it did not work

[thorn mantle]

It's a program that works like system restore. You might have to reinstall. After a fresh install, type the following.
sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade -y; flatpak upgrade
then reboot the computer, sign in, open timeshift, and let it make a time stamp

[atomic raft]

Do you still have your mint usb?

[pallid lichen]

let me try a new install and see what happens. i hope it works

thankfully yes

[atomic raft]

You can boot into it and try boot repair

[pallid lichen]

using f12 to boot from usb

"selected boot device failed. press and key to reboot the system"

no buttons are working to reboot it

[thorn mantle]

Try it with legacy bios?

[pallid lichen]

how do i do that

[atomic raft]

Could you photo your boot menu?

[pallid lichen]

i am currently in my bios

[atomic raft]

I'd like to see the boot menu and hat you're choosing

[atomic raft]

BTW, what was the last thing you did before getting to this situation?

[atomic raft]

I don't really see any usb devices here

[pallid lichen]

this, was with "A Lusty Argonian Maid" trying to update my kernel so it would stop crashing on a normal boot. i have to go into advanced and select the older versin

[atomic raft]

How did you get to grub menu that time to load older kernel?

[pallid lichen]

before it had options like
mint
Mint advances
windows

[atomic raft]

And now it goes here?

[pallid lichen]

yeap

[atomic raft]

Hold on a bit. Meanwhile, try to boot into mint usb

[pallid lichen]

i will keep trying

Okay, got the usb to show up now

[thorn mantle]

Might as well choose the UEFI version

[pallid lichen]

oops, im booting mint via usb

[thorn mantle]

That's fine, at least it's moving along

[pallid lichen]

okay im in the usb mint

[atomic raft]

Ok, try boot repair first

[thorn mantle]

So click on install and setup the partition table the way you like it. After you try that boot repair. Unless of course boot repair works.

[pallid lichen]

is there a command?

[atomic raft]

Click the menu and type boot repair

[pallid lichen]

wants me to updates the software

[atomic raft]

Do you have the internet connection?

[pallid lichen]

yes

[atomic raft]

then click yes

[pallid lichen]

okay, its gonna take a couple min

[atomic raft]

ok

[thorn mantle]

I don't remember there being that many options; Are you in the advanced options?

[pallid lichen]

yes

[atomic raft]

go back please

[pallid lichen]

in the other options ist just about or quit

[thorn mantle]

There isn't a button that just says repair?

[pallid lichen]

sadly not

[atomic raft]

Ok, open disks app and photo

[pallid lichen]

Loop device is new

really appreciate the help by the way. this is nearing the end of my second day trying to get this to work

[atomic raft]

Loop device is for live environment.

[pallid lichen]

ahhhh, makes sense

do i try do a reinstall?

[atomic raft]

Hold on please, I'd like to fix the problem

[thorn mantle]

What does it say if you type
sudo update-grub
in the terminal?

[atomic raft]

it won't have much of an effect on live session

[thick hill]

this mean you blew your kernel(s) away

[pallid lichen]

how did i manage that?

[thick hill]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-di-caprio-wolf-of-wall-street-good-job-applause-great-work-gif-16467434

open terminal and do efibootmgr and show

[pallid lichen]

its not supported on this system

[thorn mantle]

He ran the USB in legacy mode

[thick hill]

yeah cuz u booted in legacy.. was your Windows legacy-run? or u dont care about windows?

@pallid lichen

[pallid lichen]

huh

i dont understand

[thick hill]

what version of Windows was it?

[thorn mantle]

Windows boot manager is in UEFI from a previous screenshot

[atomic raft]

It said there that boot mode was uefi

[pallid lichen]

11 i thnk

[thick hill]

or if u dont care, then whatever

11 is strictly UEFI-run

[pallid lichen]

care about what?

[thick hill]

so reboot the usb up as UEFI mode

[pallid lichen]

yeah, set up in bios

[thick hill]

if it runs or not

(Windows)

[pallid lichen]

why are you so agressive man... im just trying to get this working.
i need dual boot for linix and windows

[thick hill]

to do it right, and to guarantee your USB shows in BIOS as a bootable device, remake it on a diff pc using GPT partitioning mode

[thick hill]

additionally, I'd recommend ventoy.. this way u can make it in GPT, slap a fresh Mint ISO on it, AND supergrub2 IMG

the latter is good to have for emergency booting broken bootloaders

ok try that highlighted option

[thorn mantle]

Poor guy has been here for almost three hours

[pallid lichen]

Okay i have a menu now

[thick hill]

yep start mint

that's a UEFI version of grub "live"

[pallid lichen]

Sadly longer, i started today at 10, its now 6

[thick hill]

u can tell it's live boot cuz it mentions OEM install

[atomic raft]

Just to be sure, after you boot, go to the terminal and type

[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS

[thick hill]

Live boot means the demonstration/installer

[pallid lichen]

its taking a long time to boot

[thick hill]

do what Maniak said after reaching live desktop

[pallid lichen]

on a black screen

[thorn mantle]

I gotta take off for a few; If you get it working, make sure you get that timeshift enabled.

[thick hill]

or simply efibootmgr

to be sure it's in EFI mode

if efibootmgr results in a "boot current" line, not the one u saw last time of 'not supported' then you're good to go

[thick hill]

I still have a feeling Boot Repair won't find a kernel, thus no 'recommended repair' button will appear

so you'll need to reinstall Linux (alongside Windows option)

[atomic raft]

You should still try boot repair first though

[pallid lichen]

okay, via same icon at top left?

[atomic raft]

Menu, then type boot repair

[pallid lichen]

no for the install. like is it the same one i used in the first place

[atomic raft]

Yes

[thick hill]

just for fun, do sudo os-prober in terminal

[atomic raft]

@thick hill I thought he just needed to reinstall grub, no?

[thick hill]

I mean I suppose you could chroot n all that.. and install a fresh kernel, etc etc.. I just think since this is a very new (failed) install, reinstalling linux would be quickest and effective

[pallid lichen]

this marks the 12th (i think? i lost count mostly tbh) time i shall install mint!

[thick hill]

next time do timeshift.

it's presented to you right in the first-boot of install's WELCOME screen

[atomic raft]

Alright.... how would he replace "broken" mint with a fresh one?

[pallid lichen]

This is a new option to me

[thick hill]

like chroot, open update manager, kernels etc.. all that.. then update-grub or boot repair

[thick hill]

this is how it always should've been..

since ur booted EFI now

[atomic raft]

no I meant install new mint over the broken one

[pallid lichen]

so i can just click install now and it wont remove windows?

[thick hill]

well they can delete it using the DISKS app (the old Mint ext4 partition)

hang on Venti

[pallid lichen]

hanging

[atomic raft]

Could you go back 1 step and show us the options?

[pallid lichen]

Before i went “somthing else”

[thick hill]

this is ur old pic

[pallid lichen]

yes

[thick hill]

something isnt right

[pallid lichen]

rip

[thick hill]

u see the previous pic u posted?

[pallid lichen]

indeed

[thick hill]

the windows partition should be 388 GB

[pallid lichen]

yeap, thats why i am worried about the difference

[thick hill]

if u added those two numbers, it'd prob equal 388

[atomic raft]

I think he can go with "something else" option, mark partition 4 as root and format it, and mark partition 2 as /boot/efi

[thick hill]

so what i reco u do, is delete the OLD ext4 partion (just that) from disks app

[pallid lichen]

thats what i have been doing

[thick hill]

sda4 in this case.. delete it

[pallid lichen]

remove the partition?

its now "free space"

[thick hill]

just checked.. they do

now just select install alongside.

u may have to back out of the installer

all the way to beginning,

[thick hill]

so that it notices the change u made

[thick hill]

either quit, or hit "back" a few times

then do 'install alongside" it'll auto-detect the space u just made. and give a confirmation window

[pallid lichen]

going back didnt work so i am going through again

its just saying "install now" now

[thick hill]

click install now, then read the confirm.

[pallid lichen]

instead of showing me the sizes

okay

Its going through the installation

whats going to be the next step?

[thick hill]

it confirmed it'd make a "partition 4" on sda right?

which would thusly replace the sda4 u deleted in DISKS

[pallid lichen]

yes

[thick hill]

good, just set up ur account , DDO NOT ENCRYPT SQUAT and let it finish

[pallid lichen]

okay

its now copying files. slow laptop so will be a little bit

[thick hill]

this model is an SSD, so it should finish in about 6 minutes

[pallid lichen]

pretty sure its only sata tho. not nvme

[thick hill]

yep

if it was nvme, the DISKS app would say that in the titlebar as part of its dev name

[pallid lichen]

oh nice

[thick hill]

#1193345280733622272 message < make sure this is done, exactly as per lenovo link shows once back in Windows.

[pallid lichen]

if mint works out for me i might just upgrade the storage

[pallid lichen]

im not sure i need to do this? when i had it before after every restart it took me to grub to select win or mint

its just that mint wouldnt work and i had to go through advanced mint

[thick hill]

well it'll cause all kinds of problems if u leave it on

[pallid lichen]

i see

so when i restart do i go to windows or mint first?

[thick hill]

test both.. default on list starts mint after 10 (or 5) sec

[pallid lichen]

its done now, just run restart and see what happens?

[thick hill]

also make sure u are doing personal file backups of very important files onto an external drive, or cloud storage

this is separate from Timeshift, which backs up a known-working system state for linux

[thorn mantle]

It has file back-up also, but I wouldn't recommend it

[pallid lichen]

Which one should i boot to?

[thorn mantle]

Mint

[thick hill]

true but ppl get messed up with that sometimes if ppl timeshift old personal files overtop of newer ones

[pallid lichen]

okay its actually booting to mint now

[thick hill]

once you're in Mint, hit ctrl-alt-t then do inxi -SGxxx and show

G will show ur graphics n whether or not a proper driver is already there or further work is needed

[thorn mantle]

sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade -y; flatpak upgrade

[thick hill]

all good

[pallid lichen]

okay, and now do i need to update my kernal?

[thick hill]

it's a 14 inch screen, so u may want to turn ur resolution down to 1600 x900 or 1366 x 768 to make things easier to see/read

no DO NOT TOUCH KERNEL

[thorn mantle]

I would get all the other updates and reboot first before you go get 6.11.x

[thick hill]

why FUCK with kernel if it works. test this way for a full day or two

[pallid lichen]

sounds good to meeeeee. dont wanna go through that again

[thick hill]

and do timeshift before screwing with anything

[pallid lichen]

i dunno, was told to

[pallid lichen]

and i do that byyyyy....

[thick hill]

look in Welcome screen

[thorn mantle]

In my case, it encodes media a wee bit faster

[thick hill]

or type welcome in start menu of mint

it'll guide u a bit

re: snapshots

[pallid lichen]

ahh, system snapshots

thank you!!!!

[thick hill]

the ONLY thing i suggest alteriing is the frequency of how often it takes snapshots

just put ONLY to 'weekly' and retain 2

rsync and onto the ext4 partition for saves

(can also be put onto an ext4 other drive )

[pallid lichen]

okay done

[thorn mantle]

I have mine set to daily and save only five days at a time; I'm constantly messing around with stuff though.

[thick hill]

then once u run the setup, hit "Create" button

[pallid lichen]

running

[thick hill]

then it makes a manually triggered 'timeshift snapshot' which u can even tailor a comment on after it's done

[pallid lichen]

and once this is done i can go play and not worry about ti breaking?

and then next time i boot windows i disable fast boot

[thick hill]

remember to turn fast start off in Windows as i linked

boot to windows after timeshift is complete.

[pallid lichen]

okay

will do!

thank you both so very much, i hope it stays stable now. and maybe in a weeks time i will tackle the no internet issue on my main pc 😅

[thick hill]

aight

gl with all

[pallid lichen]

p.s how do i mark as solved

[thick hill]

see #1295728709306683482 for tips n fancifying

[pallid lichen]

got it

thanks!

[thick hill]

r-click the post title on eft, and edit tags and add 'solved'

[thorn mantle]

I imagine the three dots at the top of the screen, upper right hand

[thick hill]

remember if your linux machine ever becomes totally unbootable (hopefully never now) , you can boot the live usb to its desktop to restore a Timeshift snapshot