I pulled a log file through journalctl, and it shows that there's PCIe bus errors, to what I believe is my Mint install's SSD. I was hoping to have someone be able to read into the log a bit and see if there was something more specific that could be rooted out, and maybe some general advice on what I could troubleshoot in order to make this fixable, if possible.
#Having crashes on a semi-consistent basis, think it might be SSD related, could use an expert's help
empty cradle
SMART Data & Self-Tests is grayed out
is this drive running through a USB attachment?
magic pasture
is this drive running through a USB attachment?
No, it's the NVME drive that Mint is installed on, mounted physically through the motherboard.
I managed to install smartmontools and am currently using smartctl to scan the drive while mounted as a workaround, since gnome-disks wouldn't let me do it.
magic pasture
Alright, the long test completed, it was completed without error, but there is a section that intrigues me in the SMART health info...
In the error information, there is an "Invalid Field in Command" error, a LOT. What's causing that, and could it be causing my crashing?
empty cradle
265 unsafe shutdowns in 127 hours of on time....
magic pasture
A user in the general chat saw the I/O errors and suggested that there may be something wrong with the connection to the board...
empty cradle
maybe
magic pasture
They said look at the pins for dust or damage. If it's not that, I'll have to look into upgrading my motherboard, it's over 10 by now.
magic pasture
265 unsafe shutdowns in 127 hours of on time....
Lots of crashing, and when it does that then it scrambles my file system, have to run a fsck every other one of these boots, too.
Have to go for now, I'll continue this later today when I get home from work
magic pasture
Alright, back from work, took the drive out and swabbed the contacts with isopropyl alcohol, they looked pretty clean already, but just to be safe...Going to try and use the computer for gaming and see how that goes.
magic pasture
Crashed again, pulled another journalctl log for the crash...
This one was shortened to pertinent information.
Just to verify, the m.2 slot that I have this EVO 970 installed into...the board doesn't seem to have any fasteners for it, it just slotted right in and seems nestled in there right...
This part, right here, is the most concerning, it's recurring.
kernel: nvme nvme0: 12/0/0 default/read/poll queues
kernel: nvme nvme0: Shutdown timeout set to 8 seconds
kernel: nvme nvme0: restart after slot reset
kernel: pcieport 0000:00:01.1: AER: Root Port link has been reset (0)
kernel: I/O error, dev nvme0n1, sector 1245559064 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x80700 phys_seg 45 prio class 0
kernel: nvme0n1: I/O Cmd(0x2) @ LBA 1245559064, 744 blocks, I/O Error (sct 0x3 / sc 0x71)
kernel: I/O error, dev nvme0n1, sector 1245557248 op 0x0:(READ) flags 0x84700 phys_seg 128 prio class 0
kernel: nvme0n1: I/O Cmd(0x2) @ LBA 1245557248, 1816 blocks, I/O Error (sct 0x3 / sc 0x71)
kernel: nvme nvme0: frozen state error detected, reset controller
kernel: pcieport 0000:00:01.1: [ 5] SDES (First)
kernel: pcieport 0000:00:01.1: device [8086:2f03] error status/mask=00000020/00000000
kernel: pcieport 0000:00:01.1: PCIe Bus Error: severity=Uncorrectable (Fatal), type=Transaction Layer, (Receiver ID)
kernel: pcieport 0000:00:01.1: AER: Uncorrectable (Fatal) error message received from 0000:00:01.1```it's supposed to have a screw in it. for the m.2
and if it doesn't huge shame on you, and whoever put it like that
magic pasture
and if it doesn't huge shame on you, and whoever put it like that
Let me just find a pic of my motherboard. Also, I didn't know, it's been like this the whole time without issues on my Windows install.
Alright, the m.2 slot in the top middle section, past the RAM lanes...
That's supposed to have a spot for a screw?
magic pasture
and if it doesn't huge shame on you, and whoever put it like that
Where would I put a screw there?
empty cradle
is the drive supposedly that white rectangle on the right which looks more like a 2.5 inch SATA SSD?
magic pasture
No, this is how the board looks, that's probably a built-in heatsink or cover for stuff. This is a stock photo
The drive is a Samsung 970 EVO m.2
It's plugged in straight into the m.2 slot, sticking upwards from the board.
empty cradle
well the drive should have a screw
magic pasture
So if it was screwed in, there's a potential of no errors?
Just so you know, the slot isn't horizontal, it's sticking straight up.
magic pasture
Yes, I see that...but I don't have the capability to mount it like that, there's no nvme SSD slot on the board to my knowledge. I'll look again...but the m.2 slot looks like a mini PCIe lane.
magic pasture
More likely than not I'm going to have to order an addon slot that would plug into the m.2 slot, so I can screw it down.
magic pasture
I found a NMVE to PCIe adapter that I can slot into a PCIe x4 slot, I'm going to order it and install it into my PC, get drivers for it, then slot the SSD in there. Hopefully that will fix things. I'll post back in a couple days.
empty cradle
I found a NMVE to PCIe adapter that I can slot into a PCIe x4 slot, I'm going to...
ensure any PCIe thing you get is the same generation as your motherboard's rated PCIe generation number
this includes any addition nvme drives u may add
magic pasture
It's rated for PCIe gen 3 and 4
empty cradle
alright
magic pasture
I'm back...
Disabled shader pre-caching and Steam overlay, got the SSD into an adapter, it's screwed down.
I'll describe what happens when I crash, because it's a long process before it actually happens. When I load the game and get to the title menu, Discord freezes and closes, then other programs slowly do the same. New terminals won't open, and terminals already open give input-output errors on commands that normally work. My GUI for the desktop environment completely messes up, icons go missing, loading any new program won't work, and then...black screen crash.
Putting the SSD into the adapter seemed to have gotten rid of the I/O errors, but that doesn't seem to the be cause of the crashing.
The newest journalctl for that crash is below.
magic pasture
I tried my best, but I have no idea what could be causing it...
empty cradle
samsung evo's been havin lotta issues
.
magic pasture
It's not the SSD, I have found.
The I/O issues went away
After I put it into the adapter and ran it into a PCIex4 slot it's been fine.
empty cradle
wireplumber[1505]: WpSiAudioAdapter:0x64dd2422d570 failed to activate item: Object activation aborted: proxy destroyed
Jul 01 22:34:47 Mikes-Linux-Install wireplumber[1505]: WpSiAudioAdapter:0x64dd2422d570 Object activation aborted: proxy destroyed
Jul 01 22:34:47 Mikes-Linux-Install bluetoothd[925]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.52 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSo
start with that. dont use the bluetooth device to rule it out
magic pasture
The bluetooth device is also my Wifi card...
empty cradle
I think there's a way to disable the bluetooth altogether. either from bluetooth manager: bt adapters setting, or via some kernel param command at boot which excludes purposely the BT module.
it may or may not be the cause
magic pasture
I'll give it a shot
empty cradle
or video drivers
magic pasture
Just updated that today
empty cradle
show inxi -Gxxx result
magic pasture
empty cradle
New terminals won't open, and terminals already open give input-output errors on commands that normally work.
this still sounds like a storage issue
magic pasture
...I see...
Could it be that it's the file system I locked myself into when I installed Linux?
Or would that have nothing to do with it?
empty cradle
do lsblk -o name,type,fstype,fssize,fsavail,mountpoint
magic pasture
empty cradle
lsblk -o name,model,type
magic pasture
magic pasture
It's not?
empty cradle
look ^
magic pasture
Yeah, what about it?
empty cradle
just seems strange.
magic pasture
nvme01n1 is the 970\
magic pasture
Oh, the log above
empty cradle
jst a minor oddity. the mountpoint name/folder can be whatever
magic pasture
There's a Windows Boot Manager somewhere in the mix, I can dual-boot...but I have that on another drive.
empty cradle
well the video drivers and info looks fine so maybe not the issue
magic pasture
What really annoys me, I don't know if it has anything to do with it or not, but I'm seeing a usb device keep getting reset right before the crash...
empty cradle
if you could detach sdb for a long test period, and do your gaming
magic pasture
if you could detach sdb for a long test period, and do your gaming
sdb?
empty cradle
see attachment
magic pasture
What would a drive not in use have to do with a crash?
empty cradle
sdb1 contains a read-only filesystem on it. might be contributing to crash possibly
ya true. not in use
magic pasture
The Linux system, the Steam install, everything is on sr0...
empty cradle
sr0 is optical drive
empty cradle
ya
well try the bluetooth things and see
i still have a hunch about that nvme being off
can u see SMART data off it now via DISKS?
magic pasture
nope
empty cradle
If u boot via live USB, i believe disks app lets u do write-test
magic pasture
I had installed an alternative
empty cradle
or perhaps use kdiskmark
magic pasture
I installed smartctl as a workaround
empty cradle
if it can do block write tests, use the cli tool, else kdiskmark
also, is it just crashing on one game?
magic pasture
I did the extended test on it and it passed just fine
Do you want me to perform another test?
I would like to thank you for your tireless efforts to help me try and neutralize this. I really do appreciate it. I'm sure I'm testing the limits of your patience, and I promise you that I'm doing my best here.
I have to sleep for the evening, I'll be back tomorrow.
magic pasture
also, is it just crashing on one game?
Lords of the Fallen was the game in question, but when I tried Cyberpunk 2077 it simply didn't past the title screen and did much the same thing.
magic pasture
Tried it again. Unplugged my webcam, my controller, had Discord not running, had Bluetooth turned off, still getting a crash. When the screen faded to black, I left it for a while to see if anything else would pop up in the log...This is what I got.
magic pasture
Alright...
Did a fresh install of Mint, re-downloaded Steam, tried to play Sniper Elite 4 using Nvidia's propietary drivers...
This is a file for journalctl -k -p warning
I'm at my wit's end here...I don't know what to do. I've tried everything I can think of.
magic pasture
When I hit logout instead of attempting a forced shutdown once the OS stopped responding, I got two messages:
BTRFS error (device nvme0n1p1: state EA): bdev /dev/nvme0n1p1 errs: wr 374, rd 7111, flush 0, corrupt 0, gen 0
system-journald[410]: Failed to rotate /var/log/journal/38a937e4a1eb4c41a81a1e2650246cc6/system.journal: Read-only file system
empty cradle
when the system experiences an i/o error for some reason , to the boot drive, it will set it to 'ro' read-only mode for safety
empty cradle
when the system experiences an i/o error for some reason , to the boot drive, i...
u still refuse to believe that samsung ssd is shot
*shit /shot
but that's a very, VERY high probability that it is
magic pasture
u still refuse to believe that samsung ssd is shot
I ran more extensive tests from across the live ISO
empty cradle
anyway, shut the pc down for 10 seconds or so. reboot then. hopefully the auto-fsck run will fix the filesystem
magic pasture
It didn't require an fsck, and hasn't since I reinstalled and changed to BTRFS from EXT4
magic pasture
Fair enough...
warm crystal
Good evening, i have examined this log, and while i am not fully certain of whats going on, i have noticed various things that are of interest. There are issues with wayland and steam VR, something called an "X session manager", Gliblog, ICP, PNG load ICCP, threads, and connection with the server
I would recommend testing this again, as well as trying to run big games outside of steam, to see if the issue is specifically steam related
in my eyes, something is wrong connection-wise
magic pasture
Good evening, i have examined this log, and while i am not fully certain of what...
That's the log for Steam's console log. There may be more for your perusal in the previous journalctl log above it, please look.
warm crystal
Okie dokie :3 do know that i'm not too good at this but i'll try my best :3
magic pasture
Having more eyes on this might come across the truth, if that happens to be the SSD then @empty cradle is going to have a good laugh xD
warm crystal
As i'm reading this, how old is your hardware, if i might ask?
magic pasture
The mobo is 10, the storage is no older than 2, GPU is about 5? CPU is also 10
warm crystal
Interesting
empty cradle
could always slap an ADATA or CRUCIAL BX series SATA SSD in there for a week with no other drive or PCI card connected and run a temp install for a week or two as a solid real-world test
magic pasture
RAM is 10 too
warm crystal
The mobo is 10, the storage is no older than 2, GPU is about 5? CPU is also 10
I see. Please use the preinstalled linux mint disk utility to analyze the ssd's health
warm crystal
I see. I found these instructions which could fix that
magic pasture
When originally asked to do that, I had installed smartmontools and used smartctl to scan previously.
magic pasture
I mean, I could do it again?
warm crystal
Sure if you wish
magic pasture
warm crystal
I don't really notice anything wrong with it, so that's weird if the ssd is the problem
magic pasture
Right...
Which leads us to this massive rabbit hole I've been drowning in for the last week 😭
warm crystal
I'm sorry this has been going on for this long, this seems like a pretty hard issue XD. The log about the game indicates a network-style issue of sorts
magic pasture
Games light on the graphics like Terraria run fine, Roblox can be handled...but big polygons? Maybe it's the GPU, but I haven't found a solid enough lead since I'm such a novice to this
warm crystal
did you try installing another GPU?
magic pasture
I don't have the funds to support doing that at the moment...
warm crystal
Oh, not that way XD, i am referring to different versions of the GPU. Essentially, on the driver manager, you are able to install various versions of the same GPU driver your computer comes with (AMD or NVIDIA)
magic pasture
I could try downgrading and trying again...
warm crystal
Normally, it is recommended to stay on the recommended graphics driver version as told by the app, but sometimes, for the sake of troubleshooting, downloading another version and rebooting could be a worthwhile endeavour
warm crystal
I could try downgrading and trying again...
Okie dokie :3
warm crystal
We could try the 550 not open one or the 535. Make sure to have timeshift enabled before this as it can make things even worse
magic pasture
It says it's using an alternate driver...
warm crystal
I see. Does it allow you to change options?
magic pasture
how would I get the cli to tell me what's being used? I'm curious.
magic pasture
I see. Does it allow you to change options?
Yes, but I haven't yet.
warm crystal
how would I get the cli to tell me what's being used? I'm curious.
i assume inxi -Fx
if the nvidia driver is not being used, then there's something wrong with the way you installed your GPU
magic pasture
It's being used, but the driver manager says otherwise xD
warm crystal
Hm
Alright, i have a few things we could try. First, i want you to try to run a big game outside of steam
magic pasture
That's the result of inxi -Fx
Let me think about what I could possibly run outside of Steam...
warm crystal
I think nvidia is loaded
magic pasture
It's what it says
Should I change my drivers before I try a big game outside of Steam?
warm crystal
No, let's test it first now just in case
magic pasture
What game should I try? I don't really pay MMO's
warm crystal
it would make it easier to pinpoint the issue
magic pasture
Does Epic's client work on Linux?
warm crystal
What game should I try? I don't really pay MMO's
Hmmm.... I'm not sure, but itch.io could have some cool stuff.
warm crystal
Does Epic's client work on Linux?
No, but there's an linux client called heroic games launcher
magic pasture
No, but there's an linux client called heroic games launcher
Installing it now
warm crystal
While we wait, was this issue present on windows, or did it show up after switching to Linux? Assuming you were a windows user
magic pasture
While we wait, was this issue present on windows, or did it show up after switch...
Not an issue on Windows at all
warm crystal
I see. Did it show up immediately on Linux, or was it fine till it started occurring one day?
Essentially, was it an issue that started the moment you installed Linux or did it start later? Just asking so that I can get a greater grasp of the situation
magic pasture
I see. Did it show up immediately on Linux, or was it fine till it started occur...
It was fine for a while, to my understanding, then it started when I got to a certain part of Lords of the Fallen
I don't even have that game installed anymore, I wiped my OS and changed file systems since, and the issue persists.
warm crystal
I see. If I don't manage to be of any help and you wipe the OS again... We could try installing windows again, or another Linux distro, to see if it's happening there. I know that's a very exhausting task and as such I don't recommend doing it until you run out of options
If it's happening everywhere universally, then, unfortunately... The issue might be hardware related...
magic pasture
I still have Windows on a dual-boot if I need.
warm crystal
Ah, that's great to hear. It'll come to use soon
magic pasture
I guess I could try Mortal Shell?
warm crystal
Perhaps, or something like Fortnite. Anything that is resource hungry and free works
warm crystal
Okie dokie
magic pasture
It's going to take about an hour and 10 minutes.
warm crystal
Ah... Unfortunately, I will probably need to go by then, as it's very late for me, however, I will return as soon as possible, and you may be able to continue the process with the previous person in my absence :3
magic pasture
I'll give it a shot and post logs, as I assume something will go wrong
warm crystal
Okie dokie :3 essentially what I seek is to test games outside of steam, then test another version of Nvidia graphics driver, then test games on windows
I hope they will be able to provide insights
magic pasture
I will do all three of those over the course of the next 48 hours or less, my work schedule might get in the way xD
warm crystal
It's oke lol I understand, after all I also will need to leave at times (like soonish) so there's no rush
Do know that if the issue persists on windows, then, we may be cooked
magic pasture
Fair enough. I have work in 10 hours, I'll be leaving soon too.
magic pasture
Do know that if the issue persists on windows, then, we may be cooked
I was just thinking about switching to Ryzen anyways...
warm crystal
I was just thinking about switching to Ryzen anyways...
If the problem is hardware related, your computer might still be savable. If it's a pc, a repair shop might be able to swap out the broken parts to give your computer a few years more of lifetime. Something similar could also occur for a laptop
magic pasture
If the problem is hardware related, your computer might still be savable. If it'...
I have my desktop inside of a super tower, if anyone is switching out the parts, it will be me xD
warm crystal
A super tower? What is that
magic pasture
It's beeg, from the floor up to almost my hip
I'm 5'9" (or 174cm), so it's almost half my height
warm crystal
💀 fair enough lol. Let's hope it's not hardware related at least. I'll need to go now but I will be back in a few hours and will check up on any progress. Good luck! Apologies for the departure but yeah
magic pasture
Life happens, I'll post logs when the inevitable crash happens!
warm crystal
Okie dokie :3
warm crystal
Good afternoon, I'm here again :3 how did it go?
magic pasture
So...
Tried to launch Borderlands 3 through the Heroic client, it went about as well as you would expect...
Don't mind the background, couldn't load up other programs in OS since it went read-only with a bash error
Also, while the game was loading, it had a test card that looked like this:
This was new
The above is a synopsis of everything not considered a warning by the system that happened from the moment the game was attempted to launch.
I took ownership of my drive, and tried to boot again, now I'm getting different problems...
Attempting to use the Screenshot program won't let me take a screenshot...
Files is showing an error "A problem has been detected with your thumbnail cache. Fixing it will require administrative privileges."
So, what I think has happened is that after launching a game, my OS is somehow forcing my login out of privileges.
On the plus side, my OS didn't fully crash out! I'm still in a Discord call, and I can send messages through here, which I wasn't able to do before I took ownership of my drive.
@empty cradle @warm crystal
In this state, I can't access commands.
I lied, I can do journalctl
magic pasture
I haven't either...
warm crystal
Can you try to boot into windows?
magic pasture
I suppose I could do that. Before I do, is there any way I would be able to show more extensive logs of a different kind? Maybe something through grub?
warm crystal
So, what I think has happened is that after launching a game, my OS is somehow f...
Mint never does that under normal circumstances. Something is wrong
warm crystal
I suppose I could do that. Before I do, is there any way I would be able to show...
I'm not sure, I don't really know any commands for that. The other person might though
Sorry .w.
empty cradle
I took ownership of my drive, and tried to boot again, now I'm getting different...
you BETTER not have fucked with the system drive
magic pasture
In this state, I'm getting "sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/(insert any command here): Input/output error"
warm crystal
That's... not good...
magic pasture
you BETTER not have fucked with the system drive
How would I have done that? All I did was take ownership of it.
empty cradle
FFS man. why the hell did u take ownership of the system drive?
HUGE NO.
data drives, fine. NOT the sys drive
warm crystal
FFS man. why the hell did u take ownership of the system drive?
Hey... It's okay! I'm sure we'll be able to find a solution to this :3 after all, some of these things aren't expected to be known by people on the get go
magic pasture
FFS man. why the hell did u take ownership of the system drive?
Is that such a big deal?
empty cradle
change it back. hopefully u didnt do it recursively. and YES it's a big deal
to completely screw permissions for linux
warm crystal
Is that such a big deal?
On paper, it may not sound like a bad idea, however, in execution, it's very dangerous, because it may mess with some very fine tuned permissions on your operating system, and/or make you vulnerable
Think of it as the same reason windows doesn't normally let you access certain folders.
Because it could open up a Pandora's box
Of course, it's not fair to expect people to know this on the get go, but in general, try to avoid this
On another note, I think it may be worth trying to boot into windows to see how it works :3
It may seem irrelevant, but I wish to see the extent of the damage.
magic pasture
The command I executed was sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/drive
I assume the -R means recursive?
warm crystal
I believe so
magic pasture
Of course, it's not fair to expect people to know this on the get go, but in gen...
Within Windows, sometimes in order to handle certain things I had to do much the same thing. Why is it so much more dangerous on Linux?
warm crystal
I think a big reason for it is the lack of the same extent of documentation and safety measures as on windows
empty cradle
time for a reinstall probably.
magic pasture
Again?
warm crystal
A lot of people use windows, so naturally, these things can be tested way more easily because it's been exploded and documented more
warm crystal
Again?
Before we reinstall, we could test windows to see if there's any problem with it. Since you said reinstalling didn't do anything, I doubt it would do much now either
empty cradle
you might be able to get away with a Timeshift recover
magic pasture
Before we reinstall, we could test windows to see if there's any problem with it...
Alright, let me try that then
magic pasture
you *might* be able to get away with a Timeshift recover
The Timeshift recover would undo the commands?
warm crystal
you *might* be able to get away with a Timeshift recover
Just in case, we may see what windows is up to lol. If it is broken somehow then your observation of the SSD being at fault might be true (or at least, the computer in general)
empty cradle
but ofc, u have to at least put the / of the filesystem back to root owner
im not even sure if timeshift will revert file permissions, since those are intrinsically linked to the ext4 filesystem
magic pasture
im not even sure if timeshift will revert file permissions, since those are intr...
I'm on BTRFS, if that matters...
empty cradle
there's about 20 folders including the HOME folder (not the userhomes within) that all live in the root of the filesystem. all must be set recursively back to root owner
except for home, not recursively.
can probably do each one at time with rootmode file manager
magic pasture
empty cradle
can probably do each one at time with rootmode file manager
magic pasture
It looks like the root is still the owner
magic pasture
No
empty cradle
ok
magic pasture
So I'm good?
empty cradle
check all 20 in the root
one by one
ctrl+L put / <enter>
and the root of drive itself
just nothing recursive from / itself otherwise u botch all the userhome stuff
magic pasture
Looks like everything besides my own userhome folder is still owned by the root
So is that okay?
empty cradle
yes
magic pasture
I guess it's lucky that my default terminal opens to my userhome
empty cradle
empty cradle
The command I executed was `sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/drive`
it depends exactly what you specified in path to drive here
magic pasture
it depends exactly what you specified in path to drive here
I specified /dev/nvme0n1
empty cradle
hopefully that was wrong.
magic pasture
But it seems to not have affected it
warm crystal
Well, at least the tampering of the folders wasn't as bad as I thought lol
empty cradle
good. i wont tell u why it was wrong. be thankful
anyway, reboot. probably needs to just clear its head
magic pasture
Well, /dev/nvme0n1p1 is the partition where the root is, but I wanted the whole drive xD
empty cradle
then u can do w/e
empty cradle
Well, `/dev/nvme0n1p1` is the partition where the root is, but I wanted the whol...
isn't that the efi partition?
oh nvm. good that u did it wrong, for ur own sake
magic pasture
Anywho, brb, going to reboot to Windows
Alright, on Windows
What's the equivalent of journalctl -f on Windows so I can watch what's happening in real time?
Also my download speeds on Windows are like double of Linux Mint, wtf's with that xD
I have Elden Ring installed on Windows, launching it now
warm crystal
Rather than a command, I believe that they are on C:\Windows\System32\winevt\logs
I can't find any info about any equivalent command
magic pasture
So, not only did I manage to get the game to the title screen without issue, it's loading in.
Successfully loaded my save, I'm in-game atm
No crash, no stutter.
warm crystal
That's good to know, at least the issue is purely with Linux mint
Unfortunately, my knowledge largely ends here, however, I wish to know if you've tried to run another flavour of Linux mint
Or if you reinstalled your current one
magic pasture
No, I haven't tried another flavor...
Though I was thinking about trying Ubuntu honestly.
warm crystal
Unfortunately, my knowledge largely ends here, however, I wish to know if you've...
I hope I've managed to help to some extent :3
warm crystal
No, I haven't tried another flavor...
Hmm, perhaps we could try reinstalling something like Linux mint xfce?
Or mate
Or something other than your current flavour
magic pasture
Hmm, perhaps we could try reinstalling something like Linux mint xfce?
Maybe I'll give that a try when I get home from picking up my wife from work
warm crystal
Alright
I doubt the flavour is actually the cause but if we're going to reinstall it, we may as well try. (Or we could just also reinstall the current flavour)
magic pasture
Be back in like 30-60 minutes depending on whether she wants food or not.
warm crystal
Okie dokie :3
magic pasture
I am back
warm crystal
Welcome back
magic pasture
So, what boot maker do you guys recommend? Rufus? Ventoy?
warm crystal
Rufus :3
I hope reinstalling Linux mint again will be able to fix these issues once and for all
magic pasture
Downloading the xfce version now
warm crystal
Okie dokie
Make sure to verify the iso before you install it! Having an unverified iso could lead to corruption
warm crystal
Okie
magic pasture
Rufus won't display my HDD...tried enabling hard disk detection, no dice.
empty cradle
for network speed, u can try jeremy's command here, exactly as written to tweak power (link to follow)
empty cradle
Rufus won't display my HDD...tried enabling hard disk detection, no dice.
dont have a usb flash drive?
https://pendrivelinux.com/ is also good. use UUI
warm crystal
Okie dokie
empty cradle
I've personally used UUI from that same site, over 8 years ago. it's been featured on explaincomputers YT channel.
magic pasture
Alright, finally got it to write.
warm crystal
Excellent :3 if the issues persist after the reinstallation... Unfortunately I don't know what can be done about it
But this is worth a shot
magic pasture
Going to boot and install it over my Mint install
warm crystal
Good luck!
warm crystal
Uh oh
magic pasture
Now that I think about it, when I used Rufus the first time I got the same error, I had to use Ventoy
magic pasture
There was casper messages in the journalctl of the Cinnamon install
magic pasture
It's slow going, got it in live ISO, on the last step with the circle going around...
Is it a mistake to start the install without connecting to a network first?
I can always connect later after the ISO install, I figured.
Had to reboot the live ISO, it was stuck
magic pasture
I'm now on Xfce Mint
@warm crystal before I run the update manager on anything, is there anything I shouldn't update?
warm crystal
No
warm crystal
Is it a mistake to start the install without connecting to a network first?
Not really
Also I need to go unfortunately as it's very late, however, I'll be back tomorrow :3 apologies for the departure.
magic pasture
No worries
magic pasture
It's installed, just was asking about what to update
warm crystal
Good morning, I'm back again
warm crystal
It's installed, just was asking about what to update
Uhh I suppose everything in the update manager :3
After doing the necessary things such as turning on the firewall and installing the necessary updates, we can test to see if the problems have been solved
magic pasture
Heya hey, finally on. Running a game now
warm crystal
:O did it fix?
magic pasture
Or attempting to, I'll let you know how that goes
warm crystal
Alrighty
magic pasture
I got a low-ish power game to run, Daemon X Machina. I got it to menu and it didn't crash. I'm going to install Elden Ring and attempt to load that, since it worked on Windows.
Based on my download speeds, give me about 25-30 mins.
magic pasture
If this works, I might have a theory, but it's untested as of yet.
You see, I play Roblox, and Linux doesn't have any official Roblox support. There exists a launcher called Sober...
I haven't installed Sober on this build yet, and games seemed to work.
So far, anyways...
What I could do, if I can verify that the games are working, is make a Timeshift...
Install Sober, and then go from there.
warm crystal
Well, as sober is not an official launcher, it's doomed to be unstable. I would honestly not risk using it or bothering with Roblox..
magic pasture
I mean, I guess I'll have to boot to Windows to play Roblox. That's kind of annoying xD
Elden Ring is at 90%
magic pasture
The backup would be making a Timeshift before installing Sober
Or...I suppose I could just not install it, and see how that works out.
magic pasture
Got my controller plugged in, in anticipation xD
Alright, it's installed, launching now
Apparently Vulkan shader processing takes a bit...
magic pasture
Pre-loading shaders sounds convenient until all the games you own are 50+GB
warm crystal
If it takes too long, you could skip them I think if it's on steam
magic pasture
You can, yes.
warm crystal
Though they're usually not too long
magic pasture
It's a slow, steady climb. It's at 55%
warm crystal
Ah, cool
magic pasture
It's averaging 1% increments every 7 seconds or so
magic pasture
It's pre-loading as part of the launch process, I haven't been able to get in-game to test anything yet.
It just stopped, launching now
warm crystal
Okie dokie
magic pasture
The second screen is Discord crashing
Keyboard no longer works in-game, game screen froze, I have cursor control.
warm crystal
Oh no...
Well... At least we now know it's not Linux mint that's the problem.. it can't be, we just reinstalled it
magic pasture
And it's not Sober either
warm crystal
I think your computer itself may be at fault
Unfortunately, I don't know what we can do about it, but, it may be worth it to stick to windows for now
magic pasture
Ugh...
magic pasture
Even though it runs 0 errors?
warm crystal
Yeah. Either that or there's something else wrong with the computer
Perhaps it's not properly compatible with Linux mint somehow?
I can't really comprehend it
magic pasture
The majority of the tech is within 10 years, that should be compatible right?
warm crystal
Well it depends specifically on the specs but I'm not sure it likes Linux mint lol
However, since windows works well somehow, I think staying on it might be a good idea for the time being
Or we could try another Linux distro too. Either way, unfortunately, I'm afraid my knowledge ends here...
I'm sorry I wasn't able to help solve this
But maybe stunner might be able to
He seems to know more than me
magic pasture
I believe Stunner checked out of the post.
warm crystal
Oh
Well... I guess I recommend staying on windows for the time being. With a good debloating guide, you'll be able to get some life out of this computer again :3
There doesn't seem to be a solution unfortunately, so, that may be the best choice
For the time being
magic pasture
Well, that's soul-crushing...
warm crystal
Don't feel too bad, we could try some other Linux distros that are equally as good, like lububtu
magic pasture
I guess I could try Ubuntu?
warm crystal
Sure! Perhaps it could work for your computer
I have a last resort suggestion we could try, besides waiting for other people to join this thread who can give new ideas. You could open up an issue about it on the Linux mint GitHub repo itself
With our accumulated observations, it could result in a breakthrough
magic pasture
Maybe...
warm crystal
Good luck in either event :3 I'll keep searching for information In case I find something that could help with this in any way, even if it looks Impossible
So far I haven't found anything but yeah
I think a good idea would be to attract more people here to improve the investigation
magic pasture
Not sure how to do that, I thought posting this here alone would be enough.
warm crystal
Not sure how to do that, I thought posting this here alone would be enough.
Oh um we could talk to more people in general chat, or wait
granite granite
I‘m guessing you tried the disabling secure boot rigamarole that the Nvidia Driver seems to work less painfully under, yes?
Even then, that shouldn’t lead to a system crash
magic pasture
Secure boot was disabled under BIOS settings, yes...
But I have a theory as to what could have been the issue. I think the bootloader tool I used to make the live ISO, Ventoy, might have been the culprit, and I don't think there was anything I could have done to fix the install no matter what I tried.
You see, Rufus wouldn't even make a bootable ISO on my rig, but Ventoy could. I've never had problems with Rufus in the past.
That being said, I made a bootable ISO with Rufus for Ubuntu and installed it no problem...but when I tried it with Ventoy, it had problems installing Ubuntu.
I'm not sure what exactly could have been the issue, but from what I remembered, there was remarks about a livecasper service not being able to properly load that caused the failure of the install of Ubuntu using Ventoy.
That same problem happened when I made a Linux Mint bootable ISO with Rufus...
I've already overwritten, reformatted, and repartitioned the storage I was using for LM to install Ubuntu. I have yet to test if it's working with games, but I may put this matter to rest unless someone that REALLY knows how to understand what's going on under the hood can walk through it with me.
@granite granite @warm crystal if either of you know someone, or are such a someone yourself, I'll be willing to try again for the sake of squashing bugs for the people beyond me, so we could narrow it down and make it reproducible.
warm crystal
I've already overwritten, reformatted, and repartitioned the storage I was using...
I don't really know much regarding how that works. However....
i have something that may help you with creating bootable ISOs for linux mint, if ventoy is broken
balenaetcher
explaining computers 3d had used it to make a bootable iso for linux mint
magic pasture
Well, I might try that, but I'll have to wait until I get around to it, I have company over