#Ventoy isn't working for me

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onyx spire
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I downloaded ventoy on a USB stick and copied the mint iso and when I try to boot from it it just doesn't want to boot

tired yarrow
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Please provide more information about how it doesn't boot? Do you encounter relevant error screens? Or does it just boot you back to your previous OS?

onyx spire
tired yarrow
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Which device did you select from there?

onyx spire
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I tried last one but I'm pretty sure it isn't it

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My USB stick is plugged in btw

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It did work when I just used Rufus tho

tired yarrow
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Perhaps, try shutting down completely. Then, rearrange the boot order in the BIOS.

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Otherwise, use Rufus then. It's for the same means anyways.

onyx spire
tired yarrow
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Likely related to secure boot. Do you have it on? If so, please disable it.

whole hornet
onyx spire
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Can I just turn off secure boot on ventoy?

whole hornet
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no

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u can, but u'll be even more screwed if it's on in bios

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watch vid

tired yarrow
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Might be better if we tell OP to disable Secure Boot to avoid potential problems on post-installation, what do you think?

whole hornet
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meh

onyx spire
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Seems I just needed to enroll the key. Thanks for the vid

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whole hornet
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ok. start it in normal mode. then play around with the OS for a good while. explore all the settings

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u cant really break anything in live mode, it saves no changes

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unless u do something specifically to internal drive

whole hornet
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u got plenty to play with

onyx spire
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Ok

whole hornet
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and in live mode, its pretty much no worries

onyx spire
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Can I enable persistent memory with ventoy?

whole hornet
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yes. with extra setup

onyx spire
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Any videos you'd recommend?

whole hornet
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it's all there

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can't be done in live mode, must be set up from your real existing OS

onyx spire
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but i wont have to do anything if i use it on another pc right?

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i mean that the persistence is on the usb stick and not on the actual pc

onyx spire
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that only has up to 4 gigs of persistence. what if i want more?

whole hornet
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u can grow it

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but i dont recommend going too crazy

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persistent live isnt for massive installation or heavy use

onyx spire
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i mean something like 16 gigs or something

onyx spire
whole hornet
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why u need it that big?

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ventoy has a sizer program in the ventoy folder of the main package

onyx spire
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i just prefer that ill be able to save small works if i do something on linux because some pcs will work faster on the usb rather than windows

whole hornet
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well the 4 gigs is plenty

onyx spire
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ok

whole hornet
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unless ur tyring to save 8 gigabyte files it's tons

onyx spire
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Which one do I use? For mint

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whole hornet
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any casper one

onyx spire
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so both 4gig files will work?

whole hornet
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there's only one 4gig casper file

onyx spire
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look at the image i sent

whole hornet
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in ext4

onyx spire
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ok

whole hornet
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says in my guide

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line 22

onyx spire
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so i put the file (persistence_ext4_4GB_casper-rw.dat.7z ) in the presistence folder that i made inside my ventoy file?

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@whole hornet ?

whole hornet
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yep then extract it there

onyx spire
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So I extract the zip into the persistence folder there?

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whole hornet
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yep

onyx spire
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Would increasing persistence decrease performance?

whole hornet
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it can remain there, but the folder is for neatness

onyx spire
whole hornet
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possibly

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more taxing

onyx spire
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would increasing it to 16 gigs decrease it by an amount ill feel if my usb stick has 250 gigs of storage with usb3.2?

whole hornet
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it's more to have a custom live environment, with a few added small apps, not massive apps ok

onyx spire
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ik

onyx spire
whole hornet
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u can still use the rest of drive for storage of data

onyx spire
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ik. but would i be able to move files into that area while using linux?

whole hornet
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if u need that data while in live mode, u will need to press some function key at white ventoy screen to enable the ventoy volume to be mounted

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i would caution u not to rely on the stick for important storage

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if it freezes, it may be done for good

onyx spire
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yeah. its just to move files from one pc to another if i need to work on something without my own pc

whole hornet
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if u wanted that, this would have been the better option. to set up ventoy with the 'leave free space at end' option

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but u can still do it with the function key at white boot screen i heard

onyx spire
onyx spire
whole hornet
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dont worry about line 30 if ur in windows

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just run ventoyplugson

onyx spire
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for the plugin do i just write the path to the iso or including the iso?

onyx spire
whole hornet
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yes

onyx spire
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breh

whole hornet
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it's in the package u first unzipped

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where ventoy2disk app resides

onyx spire
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but that doesnt have any iso files

whole hornet
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u see ventoyplugson.exe?

onyx spire
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yeh

whole hornet
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run it

onyx spire
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I meant yhis

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This*

whole hornet
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ok so u opened plugson, u ran the persist plugin button on the setup webpage, and hit 'add', now ur here, yes?

onyx spire
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Correct

whole hornet
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so, say ur thumbdrive is d:

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the iso path n name for top field is, d:\linuxmint22....iso

onyx spire
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So u mean the letter at the end of the thumbdrives name?

whole hornet
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look in windows explorer

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what's the usb drive's letter?

onyx spire
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D

whole hornet
onyx spire
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Got it

whole hornet
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full path n precise name of iso

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next field, full path n name to the perist dat file

onyx spire
whole hornet
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yes

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it shows in the red example text

onyx spire
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Is the persistence supposed to be inside the ventoy file?

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The .dat file is inside the persistence file

whole hornet
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i assume u put the dat file in the folder named 'peristence' yes?

onyx spire
whole hornet
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ok so type full path to that dat file

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eg. d:\persistence\whatever4gb.dat

onyx spire
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So can I delete the file called ventoy or will it be used later?

whole hornet
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u mean the ventoy folder on the usb?

onyx spire
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Yeh. It's currently empty

whole hornet
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it will get the config file there soon

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so dont mess with it

onyx spire
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Btw would the persistence just save whatever changes I make in Linux?

whole hornet
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yeah

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including files u save to the live desktop's live user's folders

onyx spire
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So how do I increase persistence past 4gigs?

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And will I need to set up persistence for every distro I'll use?

whole hornet
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there some other ventoy persist.exe i think to do that

whole hornet
onyx spire
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What is the autosel?

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@whole hornet ?

whole hornet
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it is to allow persistence to boot without prompting for that given setup

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i'd keep it off

onyx spire
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So ur saying that if I don't turn it on I'll have to somehow manually activate persistence each boot to save changes?

whole hornet
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if u mess up the persist-saved environment, it's easier to at least get a clean live environment, prompted for such

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it's just one key stroke difference

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i'd leave it off

onyx spire
whole hornet
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when u start iso, it prompts with persistence or without

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u can edit this choice later too, just re-running this setup page

onyx spire
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So if I say without it will load with the changes but not save anything in that boot and if I say with it will save whatever I'm doing untill I turn off the PC?

whole hornet
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boot without persistence loads no changes. saves no changes

onyx spire
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And with it it will load changes and save changes?

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Is there a way to load changes without saving changes?

whole hornet
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no

onyx spire
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Ok

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So can I just reboot my pc into Linux and it will have persistence?

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whole hornet
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i would time how long it takes to boot Mint from the moment u press enter on 'start linux mint' in its black GRUB menu, til time u reach a complete-loaded desktop

onyx spire
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Idk. About 15s before I started adding stuff

whole hornet
onyx spire
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Yup. Ventoy.json in the ventoy file

whole hornet
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are u booted into Mint live desktop now?

onyx spire
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Nope

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But will it work rn or do I need some more setup?

whole hornet
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did u save/finalize in the web GUI?

onyx spire
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How do I do that?

whole hornet
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Idk show pic of full web setup page

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if there's some green check it means it's setup next to that persistive listing

onyx spire
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Will this work?

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whole hornet
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one sec

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yeah the green ok shows

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just close out n do step 41

onyx spire
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im pretty sure it worked

whole hornet
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just leave it for now n try linux, geeze

onyx spire
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uhhhhhhh okkkkkkkkk

whole hornet
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https://ventoy.net/en/doc_linux_remount.html

Ventoy

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

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and see same manual there for growing it