My system won't boot up anymore. | Linux Mint Community🍵 | Page 1

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 9:52 AM

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I installed a newer video card system booted up perfectly. My old second monitor wouldn't plug into my newer GPU. Was actually able to re install my older GPU and my old monitor worked perfectly. I then upgraded my cpu. Booted up several times and no issue. I booted my system up tonight and it comes to this

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Any help would be muchly appreciated. Thank you kindly

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:21 AM

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Have you changed anything since last successful boot?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:29 AM

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Hardware wise no. I just took out the second GPU and still not booting up

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:30 AM

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Ok let's see, can you get to grub menu, bu holding left shift as it boots?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:31 AM

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Trying now

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Nope. Goes back into that funky smelling output

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Try to hold left shift as soon as you turn the power on

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Ok

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Grub menu is where you choose what boot up mode to use?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:36 AM

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It should say grub at the top and list what you can boot to

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:36 AM

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It was going to that but now I can't use my arrow keys to choose any of them. It waits a bit and by passes it now

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Will try again

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Nope. Tried 3 times

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It was letting me choose before

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:40 AM

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Does your keyboard not work? Can you get to bios settings?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:40 AM

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Yes

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:40 AM

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Do arrow key work there?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:41 AM

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Yes

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:41 AM

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alright, can you boot to mint usb?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:42 AM

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I reset bios. I can get into grub now and can scroll

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I never made a usb. I reformatted and fresh install of mint when I switched from Windows 3 years ago

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:44 AM

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How did you managed to do that without usb?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:44 AM

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Old school. I burnt a cd image

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:45 AM

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Do you still have it?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Lol. 3 years ago. I think I tossed most of my old CDs out. I did enable the system back up when I first set it up on a seperate drive I'd that helps

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Nope. I just found the original cd

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:47 AM

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Since you reseted bios, and now grub menu works, first check if it boots the normal way

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:49 AM

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Nope

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Different screen. But no go still

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Grub screen has second option. Advanced options for Linux Mint 21.2

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Those are errors about your disk not being able to read.

check the bios for a setting that might be called sata mode, it could be set to ide, ahci or raid, check what is it set to.

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:56 AM

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Ok

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It's set to ahci

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 10:58 AM

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Just to test, switch it to other modes, see how it affects the messages

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 10:58 AM

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Rebooting

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Still at the funky smelling output screen

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:00 AM

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are there other messages like in the previous screen?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:00 AM

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This is the one I get now

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:01 AM

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that is with sata mode set to ide?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:02 AM

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Idle was not one of the options

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:02 AM

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ide not idle

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:02 AM

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Ahci or raid

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:02 AM

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oh

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so this is on raid?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:03 AM

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It's back on ahci since raid didn't make any difference

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Alright, in the grub menu under advanced options there should be an option to boot into older installed kernels, try them

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:09 AM

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It's still going through the motions. But looks good so far Houston. Looks like it's re doing a lot of stuff

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:10 AM

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Photo please?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:10 AM

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It's scrolling pages and pages

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I chose one a couple pages down. Didn't realize those were different saved kernels. The first page and a half looked all the same

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Should I have chosen one closer to the top of the list?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:14 AM

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Those are still errors about your disk not being able to read. Do you have hdd or ssd?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:14 AM

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I just noticed. It's repeating the same paragraph over and over. It seems to me. I've got old eyes though

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Ssd

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WD black 2.0

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Now just repeating this now

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Different addresses

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Reboot perhaps and choose another?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:17 AM

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If you can, check if the cables aren't loose on ssd

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power off pc first

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:18 AM

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The SSD where the system is, is one of those little ones that click right onto the motherboard

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I've got 2 other drives that are actual spindle hard drives

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:20 AM

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Where the system is installed?

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On ssd?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:21 AM

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On the small SSD. I forget what you call me. Looks like a memory stick but is an SSD.

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:22 AM

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Ok.... let's boot into your cd then

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:27 AM

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It wasn't working. Trying another usb port

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Back to grub menu

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:28 AM

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usb port.... for a cd?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:28 AM

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My new case has no 3.5 or 5.25 bays

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:29 AM

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Do you have another pc or laptop around?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:30 AM

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I have a laptop upstairs. It's windows based. I'll go grab it. Brb

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:30 AM

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That's fine, use it to make a bootable usb with mint 22.1

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:35 AM

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Ok laptop is running. Fresh 64gig ready to go

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:36 AM

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Do you know how to make bootable usb?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:37 AM

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Its been so long, memory isn't great anymore. I use to know all that. Apologies

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:38 AM

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No problem. I use ventoy.
https://www.ventoy.net/en/download.html

just download it and run, choose your usb and click install, then just copy mint iso in the usb

Ventoy

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:47 AM

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I downloaded it. It's not finding jump drive.

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:47 AM

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Do you see it in windows explorer?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:48 AM

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Sigh no

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Brand new. Just opened the package

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:50 AM

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This looks like a usb card reader?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:50 AM

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Micro SD card in a reader

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It's all I have at the moment. Been using these to program android boxes.

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Windows acknowledges when I plug it in but doesn't show up in explorer

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:52 AM

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I haven't used those, but I'm guessing you can't insert the card the wrong way in there, can you?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:52 AM

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Nope

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:53 AM

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Let's see...... can you screenshot the ventoy window?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:54 AM

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Got it recognized now

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:55 AM

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that's promising

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:55 AM

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Formating now

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Done

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:56 AM

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you should see a new drive in explorer now

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:56 AM

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Yes. Called ventoy

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:56 AM

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Yeah, just copy mint iso there

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:56 AM

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From the cd?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 11:57 AM

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From the net

https://linuxmint.com/download.php

Download Linux Mint 22.1 - Linux Mint

Linux Mint is an elegant, easy to use, up to date and comfortable desktop operating system.

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 11:58 AM

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Downloading now

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2.8 gig. Will take a few min. Old laptop & wifi🙂

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:00 PM

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no rush

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:09 PM

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Done

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It's zipped

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:10 PM

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what's zipped?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:11 PM

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The download. It says WinZip file. Not iso

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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Windows hides known extenstions by default, you can turn that off in explorer properties, and many archive programs can extract iso as an archive.

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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Ahh ok

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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Most liikely it's an iso though

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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Cool

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:12 PM

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So, go ahead and boot from that

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 PM

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Copy the file to the jump drive?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:13 PM

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yes

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:14 PM

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Doing that now. Did a properties on the file. Definately an ISO file

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Done

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This will erase everything I had?

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Or is there a repair option?lol

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:19 PM

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It will give us an environment to work in, and to figure out what's wrong

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:20 PM

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Perfect

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Oh odd. I'm in a grub menu like I'm in terminal

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grub>

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:22 PM

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Go to bios settings, there should be a boot menu option or button somewhere

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:22 PM

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Ok

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Switch jump drive to first order of boot sequence

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I'm in

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:25 PM

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that should work too

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:25 PM

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:25 PM

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Normal mode's fine

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:25 PM

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Oops. I did it's own thing

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:26 PM

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that's fine, should get you to the desktop

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:26 PM

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Reboot and make a choice?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:27 PM

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just wait for now

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:27 PM

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Ok

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:27 PM

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sd cards aren't exactly fast

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:27 PM

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Lol. That's for sure.

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I try to buy the best locally. Small town . Next to no options now

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Ok... let's see if anything else shows up

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:29 PM

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Ok holding

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Went blank and than

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Still seems to be working

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:31 PM

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Sdb, whatever disk is that, sure seems to have problems

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:32 PM

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I hope it's not my new ssd

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:32 PM

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We'll see if it gets to desktop eventually

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:35 PM

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I hadn't done an update in a while. So I tried one earlier tonight. Had been working nights for a month and didn't touch my PC for quite a while. It was giving me errors that the updates were not downloading from selected hosts. I tried to select others. No other choices stuck. So I rebooted and now this.☹️

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Houston. We have a bare desktop

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Looks like a fresh install

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:38 PM

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Great, at least something to work with. So go to disks app and screenshot it. You can use a web version of discord if you want, for easier screenshot sharing

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:39 PM

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The one at the top is the system drive

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I think the third one I kept only for mirror the main drive

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Or the 4th. Sorry. I forget.

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:41 PM

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Ok, so 4 disks. click on each and screenshot the right half of the window (or full window)

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:42 PM

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That makes no sense. I install almost nothing

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Just a few games and map making apps.

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Now everything is full?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:44 PM

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I think you forgot the top 1

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:44 PM

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☹️

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:49 PM

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Hmm.... it seems that the top one is your os drive nvme. sdb is the problem one, it's the 3rd one. Let's check, select the first drive, partition 3 and click the play button, then go to files

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you should see a disk on the left side, check what's on it

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:53 PM

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The cog?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:54 PM

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open the file manager

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from the menu

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:54 PM

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:56 PM

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This.... doesn't look like linux drive

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 12:57 PM

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I wrong pix

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Apologies

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 12:59 PM

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ok... let's try one at a time. first eject them all

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:00 PM

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Eject? Physically detach everything

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:00 PM

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you can see eject buttons next to some drives

Then in disks mount the first drive partition 3 (play button)

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:01 PM

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The red square with minus sign?

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Oops. That's delete partition

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:02 PM

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To the right of the drive

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:02 PM

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:03 PM

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stop button (square) also works

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:04 PM

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Ok. All stopped but the top one. No square showed up there

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:04 PM

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Can you show me the file manager?

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:06 PM

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Like the file browser?

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:06 PM

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yes

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:07 PM

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:07 PM

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Ok, in disks, click on the top drive partition 3 and photo

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:08 PM

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:10 PM

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Alright, this seems to be you system drive. If you go to home folder, you should see your account name and your stuff in there

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:10 PM

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pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:11 PM

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spare girder

home folder in there

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:12 PM

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@pseudo plank @pseudo plank

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:12 PM

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I'm guessing it's your stuff

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:12 PM

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Yes

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:14 PM

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Alright, you can press the stop button on the first disk partition 3. Then click the 3 dots in the top right corner of disks window and click SMART data

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:15 PM

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Smart not available. Greyed out

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Would it be easier for you doing voice? Your choice.

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:17 PM

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Sure, I can do voice, one min

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Come on in

spare girder Mar 27, 2025, 1:19 PM

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Let me go grab my ear buds. Beb

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Brb

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Ok where?lol

pseudo plank Mar 27, 2025, 1:24 PM

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live support channel

#My system won't boot up anymore.