rustic warren
I just installed linux so I'm quite new to everything. I installed Pulse Audio Control, but still no luck. The system just doesn't recognize the 5.1 setup, only as a line out. I turned on sound for closing windows and such, whenever I do that I just hear a loud thud through the front speakers and possibly the subwoofer.
Steps to reproduce:
Install a mint fresh linux mint
Plug in Logitech 5.1 X-540
worn hollow
can you show a fairly closeup photograph of the soundcard/connectors on back of your computer, including any CORD(s) plugged that go to the jacks and to the speaker system
worn hollow
@rustic warren
rustic warren
It's important to note that on windows everything is recognised and working
Here are the cords:
The cords directly go from the subwoofer to the backplate of the pc.
I've noticed that the system recognises a microphone input from the backplate, which is not the case, though I don't know how I could change this misrecognition
worn hollow
mic jack is mic jack. (pink)
unless Windows has some witches brew of code that allows reassigning mic jack to an output of some kind through proprietary soundcard drivers.
if you could show the pins of all three cords, side by side.
this is how a typical analog-out 5.1 sound card looks like
all of the above would use the standard 3-contact TRS miniplug, except maybe the pink mic one which may be mono only, so tip&sleeve, instead of tip-ring-sleeve
hard to make out the engraved icons exactly on your first pic. a more closeup/focused one with cords unplugged would be nice.
rustic warren
On windows I use Realtek Audio Console version 1.3.180.0, and I can set what each jack does. On the back panel I set
Blue - front left and right
Green - Front
Pink - center channel out/subwoofer
I'll send the back io pic in a second
rustic warren
unless Windows has some witches brew of code that allows *reassigning* mic jack ...
I think realtek is doing the reassigning. Would this also be possible on cinnamon?
Or is there a way to get the Gigabyte Realtek Audio Console working on cinnamon?
worn hollow
rustic warren
Yes the translation checks out
worn hollow
Or is there a way to get the Gigabyte Realtek Audio Console working on cinnamon?
check realtek website if any linux support
or software manager for audio hardware jack assignment software, i doubt it though
rustic warren
I've found hd jack retasking, but its for Intel HDA sound cards
worn hollow
ah
only other solution I can think of is USB sound card, with the 5 discreet jacks i showed
rustic warren
But the sound system still has 3 plugs, so retasking should work somehow, I mean it worked on windows
worn hollow
technically, you dont need the blue line -in
just the orange, green, and black jacks
plus a pink one if you ever use analog mic
rustic warren
I use a usb mic, but I dont want to buy a sound card just to use the 5.1, when the issue is not hardware related
worn hollow
this is one of those things of highly Windows-specific drivers and control software.
@fading estuary what do you think about this one?
fading estuary
<@162852075762352128> what do you think about this one?
I think this is proprietary bullshit. The line plugs on modern sound cards are not hardwired, they can be routed as needed (within limits). Since this is a niche, support tends to be wonky to nonexistent on Linux. I could not even point out a known well-supported sound card or onboard chip.
There might be ways to re-route the inputs with some low-level fiddling, but unless you find a specialised driver on somebody's github for this sound chip, I see no real path to a solution. Does not mean there is none, but I am not seeing one.
worn hollow
I've found hd jack retasking, but its for Intel HDA sound cards
I've found hd jack retasking, but its for Intel HDA sound cards
fading estuary
Good find. What chip is this even?
fading estuary
inxi -Axxxz time, then.
worn hollow
@rustic warren please show result of that terminal command from Linux.
these freakin' logitech guys really should just make USB soundcards built-into their multichannel speaker packages. One usb A to B cord and done.
fading estuary
I've had a 4.1 surround system 25 years ago, when that was a cool new thing. I got over it pretty quickly when I realised how bad the support really was. I do not think this has substantially changed since then.
rustic warren
Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 4
bus-ID: 06:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb8 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
bus-ID: 08:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
Device-3: JMTek LLC. USB PnP Audio Device
driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3-3:2 chip-ID: 0c76:161e class-ID: 0300
API: ALSA v: k6.8.0-51-generic status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.5 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
rustic warren
these freakin' logitech guys really should just make USB soundcards built-into t...
This is a fairly old speaker system, but yeah logi does a lot of weird stuff at even more unreasonable prices
rustic warren
I've had a 4.1 surround system 25 years ago, when that was a cool new thing. I g...
I just wanted a decent sounding setup for cheap, so I looked for used stuff in my area and this way the best bang for my buck within budget
rustic warren
Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda...
If that is any help, the jacks are plugged into the motherboard which is a Gigabyte AB350m-ds3h V2
Device 1 is prolly my gpu, and device 3 is my usb mic
rustic warren
It doesn't seem to
I'll send a screenshot of what I did with it so far
Still, the only thing I hear is a few thuds when I close or open windows
When I turn on advanced override, I have the option to change the channel group of the individual jacks, would that do anything?
worn hollow
probably. use a song playing in backgroun
worn hollow
I have no idea what's going on there. just start simple. do baby steps, and test along the way
rustic warren
I am doing that but nothing seems to work, it might be something really obvious im just not noticing it
worn hollow
green plug really really should be on green jack for starters (talking physical)
then match that in the task software for front main stereo
fading estuary
+1 for starting with just the green plug and verifying it does proper stereo. Then add another plug, see what was added, possibly fiddle with it.
rustic warren
okay okay, The device should be line out right? there are other options like speaker, headphones etc
Just plugging in green, setting it to line out front doesn't give any sound, not even the thudding that has been happening
worn hollow
now check ur sound mixer
rustic warren
my mixer...?
worn hollow
SOUND module in Mint cinnamon
rustic warren
you mean the test sound thingy?
rustic warren
start menu: preferences: sound
Oh yeah I've been here already several times, I fiddled with it trying to test stuff
The furhthest I've gotten is to have it recognize a 5.1 output
worn hollow
it's a bit less than detailed in that, so get pavucontrol open n up
rustic warren
done
worn hollow
then go in pavucontrol's config tab
disable all other profiles except the starship matisse one, and the USB mic one.
for the starship matisse one, set it to stereo output (no need for stereo duplex, since u have digital mic)
then go in pavucontrol's Output tab, and ensure that matisse profile is there .
rustic warren
So far so good
worn hollow
and while playing a song, u should see a moving line (audio intensity meter) under that output slider
rustic warren
Checks out
worn hollow
now, ensure its little "set as fallback" check icon is pushed in
and make sure mute isnt
and volume around 100 or 85
then ensure green on green physical jacks. and then play with the tasker thing
rustic warren
Do I unplug every other jack?
rustic warren
Green is plugged in green
worn hollow
and that ur front speakers are connected to the central hub/amp/(subwoofer) and their cord is in good shape/fit
rustic warren
When I sent the screenshots I was switching from win10 and it worked there so that shouldnt be a problem
worn hollow
right, now go in the sound restasker jack app
it may need an "apply" and reboot so no guarantee it will sound rightaway
but basically set the green or lineout jack to perform front stereo
rustic warren
Pressed apply, and now I don't see the audio intensity meter, I mean the blue line isnt moving
Do I install boot override, and do a reboot, to make sure it applies?
worn hollow
im thinking yes.
rustic warren
No physicsal sound from speakers, but the system detects it in pavu
Only those occasional thuds
I did something. I set the config profile in pavu to 5.1 analog output, and setup the jacks in hd retasking. Now instead of the loud thud, I hear an echoing thud, possibly even from the subwoofer
okay this is so stupid
I unplugged the y splitter from the front IO
And magically everything works now
now the only thing I need to figure out is how to make stereo output to 5.1 surround, because the realtek driver can do that.
terse loom
there is a setting for that that is likely disabled by default
called upmixing
I believe you symlink /usr/share/pipewire/client.conf.avail/20-upmix.conf into a config dir to enable it
or you can manually copy the contents to your config for pipewire
I've never used upmixing so I have no opinion on how well it works
rustic warren
Funny words magic man! I'll try to cook something with this info
rustic warren
okay idk how to do any of these. Could help me walk throug this?
rustic warren
Doesnt this mean that upmixing is enabled?
Also I've found no file called 20-upmix.conf
client.conf.avail neither
worn hollow
seems that picture shows that upmix thing is "on" but what's the exact file that picture is of?
worn hollow
I believe you symlink /usr/share/pipewire/client.conf.avail/20-upmix.conf into a...
this sounds brilliant, but where exactly is "a config dir" ?
rustic warren
seems that picture shows that upmix thing is "on" but what's the exact file that...
pipewire-avb.conf
this is everthing I have in the pipewire folder
worn hollow
alright, I'll leave it to michael cuz im not sure
worn hollow
yw
rustic warren
Also what I've noticed is, if I set the audio output to stereo, then the back speakers do work
Just to be clear, what I'm trying to do is have for example spotify on firefox, which outputs stereo also use my surround speakers not just the front left and right ones. However, if I boot up assetto corsa, or minecraft have them output 5.1 and not stereo, because they both have surround support.
