#New Build, Fresh Install, Games Lag, UI Mouse Stuttering

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ashen wolf
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Expected Behavior:
OS UI would run quickly and normally. Gaming would be pretty good, albeit hampered if it wasn't specifically designed to run on Linux. Steam Deck works, why not a reasonably powerful desktop?

Actual Behavior:
All games lag, be it Baldur's Gate 3 or something much simpler like Crawl. Reducing graphics settings do not help. Additionally, just using Mint casually with two monitors causes the entire OS to run slow - mouse stuttering, slow typing about 50% of the time. Have tried different drivers (565, 535), modifying swap amount (now 8GB), different NVIDIA modes, diables Sync to VBlank and Allow Flipping, uninstalled IRQBALANCE, SSD is more empty than full, Feral gamemode w/ Lutris.

Additional Information:
Brand new build, only a few days old. Temps seem totally fine.
Mint 22 Cinnamon (6.2.9)
Kernel 6.8.0-51-generic
Ryzen 9 7900
RTX 4070 (proprietary 550 drivers)
32GB RAM (2x16)
2TB SSD (OS)
4TB nvme SSD (Games)

ashen wolf
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In case it helps inform anything: The lag in games is consistent - like if I'm getting 10fps in BG3, I'm also getting 10fps in a much simpler game. Tested out on Lethal Company, a pretty lightweight game, and GPU Utilization started between 60-90% which seems really high. After a few minutes, it dropped to 10% and the framerate was perfectly normal, with occasional lag spikes and utilization skyrocketing to 60% or so. CPU cores between 0-20%, Memory flatlining at 7.8GB, which is supiciously close to the swap amount I set. Oh, and if I tab out of a game the whole PC lags.

merry halo
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sounds like the drivers for video aren't playing well or aren't even applying. Check output of inxi -Gxxx and make sure it says a number for driver: and not N/A

ashen wolf
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Looks normal. I'll include the igpu screenshot as well in case its relevant.

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I have hopped between a few different NVIDIA drivers but the result has been the same. One thing I have yet to try is changing kernels. I don't understand what that really means so I've held off.

merry halo
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when you do inxi -b what does it list for the BIOS date?

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also for some reason it is showing active: none for both the Nvidia GeForce, and the AMD Raphael

ashen wolf
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Assuming this is what you mean for the BIOS v: N/A doesn't seem ideal. I can check to see if there's an update

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merry halo
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no that info is fine.

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I think this type of system might be a tad too new for Mint 22.

ashen wolf
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Ah F31 I see. It's a little out of date

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Oh noooo!

merry halo
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from what I've gathered over some time, the latest powerhouse gaming rigs do well on more leading edge rolling distros, that are geared more for gaming on advanced hardware. Such would be Nobara, Ultramarine, perhaps Garuda.

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@simple ether if you're around, perhaps you can weigh in on this issue.

ashen wolf
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Got it, that makes sense. I appreciate your input and taking the time to assist. Had been pulling my hair out the last few days trying to get things working. As a lifelong windows user, I was hoping it'd be a little bit before I have to distro hop - not 4 days in haha!!

ashen wolf
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Going to give Nobara a shot this evening and will report back if anything changes in case someone comes searching for a similar issue down the road.

light parcel
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What port or ports are actively in use as far as your monitors?

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The reason I ask is that performance would somewhat make sense with integrated graphics from your CPU rather than the beefy GPU were actually driving your displays. Correct configuration is to ensure all monitors are plugged into the nvidia 470s ports

ashen wolf
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One monitor was plugged into the PC via DP and the other was daisy chained off of it. Changed both to DP directly into the GPU and no change

ashen wolf
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FWIW so far nobara is running about the same. Haven't tried a game but dang is the UI being slow. Not even sure where to begin at this point. I'd rather not install windows but I'm so curious to see if that's slow as well, or if something is just not cooperating on the Linux side.

ashen wolf
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Installing Windows to test. So far it has been lightning fast and flawless compared to Linux which is discouraging, as I was really hoping to ditch Microsoft. We'll see if it holds, but perhaps I'll have to try Linux again in a few months.
Edit: Yeah Windows runs perfectly fine. Dang.

simple ether
ashen wolf
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Secure boot was disabled. I did try multiple NVIDIA drivers (550, 535, and then even one newer like 565 perhaps?). I have wiped Linux from my drives but I could break out a small partition to do some further testing if we think it's worthwhile.

simple ether
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You can just test by booting a live ISO. I would cross-check with Fedora. This may be one of those things that just fixes itself with a newer kernel, which Mint cannot provide yet.

brazen wedge
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I installed my linux mint yesterday and I find myself with the same problem, I haven't put any game on yet, but you can feel the difference when I'm on discord or even on a browser, the mouse is slower and seems stuttering.

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(and that is normal that my middle mouse button paste things ?)

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even apps seem to be slowed down

merry halo
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^ this is a different, older laptop computer. you can try the proprietary nvidia drivers in Driver Manager. (secure boot must be and remain off if this pc has SB)

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and yes, middle-click typically pastes.

brazen wedge
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you can try the proprietary nvidia drivers in Driver Manager.
how can i do that ?

brazen wedge
merry halo
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only in browser unfortunately

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enable autoscroll in firefox settings, and/or use an extension of similar name in chromium-based browsers

brazen wedge
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and for the drivers ?

merry halo
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just open drv mgr

brazen wedge
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what is it ? 😅

merry halo
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search 'driver' in start menu

brazen wedge
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i only have the drivers manager

merry halo
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oh

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make a new ticket for help on "Nvidia Quadro 1000M GPU driver support on Mint 22"

brazen wedge
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oooh driver manager = drv mgr 🧠

brazen wedge
ashen wolf
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FWIW I replaced the SSD and the slowness and stuttering appears to have disappeared. Going to give linux another shot here in the coming days. Fingers crossed!