Preload issue.

[lusty jasper]

dont run terminal commands like that right after u boot up

update manager is probably needing a minute or two to do its checks.

and not while other software shop/package managers are running either.

[swift harness]

It works. Much obliged. @lusty jasper

[lusty jasper]

tag this solved thx

[swift harness]

I have one more question.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linuxuprising/apps
Cannot add PPA: ''This PPA does not support noble''.

[lusty jasper]

out of luck then

22 is based on noble numbat 'buntu

[swift harness]

I want to use UIs though.

[marble burrow]

Mint 22 is based on Ubuntu 24.04 which is code name noble

If that ppa doesn't have packages for 24.04 it wont be usable on Mint 22

its basically not updated for almost 2 years and never added support for 23.10 or 24.04 may well be abandoned

Notably hardinfo and guake are available in the regular repos

[swift harness]

Guake?

[marble burrow]

There is only 3 packages in that repo Guake a terminal, birdtray(a tray icon for thunderbird mail client) and hardinfo

[swift harness]

What is guake?

[marble burrow]

again a terminal

[swift harness]

Alright.

Also, I need something like this for Linux Mint 22: https://github.com/KrispyCamel4u/SysMonTask

[marble burrow]

There is a system monitor that comes with cinnamon

[swift harness]

I do not like it at all.

[marble burrow]

htop?

[swift harness]

How do I get birdtray?

[swift harness]

Let me check that.

[marble burrow]

You would have to ask the developer to provide a package, make one, or build it following the directions

[swift harness]

No. I want a Windows 11 like Process Manager.

[swift harness]

What even is birdtray?

[marble burrow]

its a package in the repo you were trying to add

I presume you were trying to add it for some reason

SysMonTask is abandoned entirely I wouldn't bother with it

[swift harness]

How do I find something like the Windows 11 Task Manager for Linux Mint 22?

[marble burrow]

Why did you ask about that ppa if you don't know any of the software it provides?

https://alternativeto.net/category/utilities/process-monitoring/?platform=linux

You might find the KDE one ksysguard more windows like

although installing ANYTHING from KDE is basiccally going to install most of KDE

[swift harness]

What is KDE again?

I have heard of it a lot.

[marble burrow]

its a desktop like cinnamon

you can install it in mint but its not supported and may not work as well with mint

[swift harness]

Ah.

https://flathub.org/apps/io.missioncenter.MissionCenter

I chose this.

[marble burrow]

you can also try it on a live usb

yep you can check that out

[swift harness]

Okay. How would I rebind control + alt + delete to launch it too?

[marble burrow]

you can in keyboard settings

but it wont work like it does in Linux where it works even when the system is lagged out

if the system is responsive enough to execute keyboard bindings it will work if not it wont

[swift harness]

So control + alt + backspace would be my best bet? Shutting down everything in that session?

[marble burrow]

no

normal shutdown is best

but if you have to control alt backspace kills your graphical session and all apps

but there is a control sequence that is handled like windows at a very low level ensuring it always works

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key

[swift harness]

This just takes a screenshot.

[marble burrow]

not sure what you mean by that

that would be print which is normally the same key

you need to hold down alt+sysreq then press the sequence

if you want to test it make sure your stuff is saved you will reboot

[swift harness]

Which sequence?

[marble burrow]

normally reisub

[swift harness]

What is that?

[marble burrow]

actually read the article

[swift harness]

I did. I did not understand it.

[marble burrow]

hold down alt the entire time while pressing sysreq r e i s u b

e tells all processes nicely to shut down i tells them you will fucking shutdown right now s saves all data not yet saved

u sets all filesystems read only so nothing tries to write anything else

b reboots

you could do alt+sysreq and hold down alt and hit just b and it would reboot but you could lose data

You are essentially just telling it manually to do the things its supposed to do to do a proper reboot

[swift harness]

Alright.

I got preload!

And is there any way to get Mission Center to work when everything is crashing?

[marble burrow]

no

[lusty jasper]

this is a bailout / logout sequence

[marble burrow]

the thing that tends to work BEST is switching to a tty

control+alt+F1..F8

F1 is used by bootup F7 is first graphical login