LMC 22 installation problems | Linux Mint Community🍵 | Page 1

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 8:01 PM

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A friend of mine just tried installing LMC 22 from my thumb drive and when he reboots after installation, he gets a screen:
"BusyBox v1.36.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.36.1-6ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash)
(initramfs)"

How can/does he get past this and/or what command(s) should he enter to get into the initial installation, and why is he seeing this on initial bootup after installation?

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My LMC 22 is running just fine - I'm really asking for my friend. Really.

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 8:25 PM

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that error is from some kind of bad installtion.

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best to ensure fast boot in BIOS is off, as well as Secure Boot .

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and if dualbooting with Windows, then windows fast startup be off as well.

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and verify the iso as per the mint install guide

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then reinstall Linux

weary vapor Aug 12, 2024, 8:49 PM

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also might be worth seeing if the checksums math up - look in up online

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 8:53 PM

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fringe sluice My LMC 22 is running just fine - I'm really asking for my friend. Really.

tell them to use ventoy to make the usb media bootable

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then add the iso

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u may verify the iso on two phases:

right after downloading it

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right on the usb itself to ensure proper writes. (ventoy has option for this in its second bootup menu)

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 9:09 PM

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trying that now

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 9:21 PM

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see linuxmint website download area for the sha256 text file to compare results for parity

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 9:31 PM

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nope - even a brand new download and install didn't fix it

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 9:36 PM

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determine the release to market date of the specific computer

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determine if it live boots. if it's a fairly new computer (last 7 years) it should be made to boot using UEFI USB STORAGE DRIVE (disable CSM/legacy in BIOS options, as well as Quick/Fast Boot, Secure boot)

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once at live desktop, use gparted application to wipe the internal drive clean. Select drive from the corner box in it, then go to Device: Make new partition table. (use GPT style if pc is within 7 years age)

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after that, close gparted, launch Mint installer, and run the automatic install of 'erase disk and install Mint'

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as long as no halts or errors during the installer, then it should be fine to boot after. (one would simply let it reboot with usb stick removed)

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 10:12 PM

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OK, how does he get to the gparted app

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never mind - got it up (gparted)

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Nope. Still getting the same error message on reboot -

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His laptop's less than a year old, BTW

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 10:56 PM

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Still getting that same error message after install/reboot

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And he did the erase disk option

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 10:59 PM

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fringe sluice Nope. Still getting the same error message on reboot -

last resort (should be first resort) is use Ventoy with GPT

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 11:00 PM

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I did that to write the .iso to the thumb drive, but it's still not working (also sent you a FR)

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 11:00 PM

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This must be done first not 2ndly. If ventoy was already on the usb stick, u must click CLEAR VENTOY as shown in pic, then close the app, reopen it, and use that ptn style setting shown

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no dm's please

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also add another distro to ventoy. perhaps Ubuntu Cinnamon 24

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or Mint 21.3 EDGE

fringe sluice Aug 12, 2024, 11:41 PM

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still not working on his laptop. He says that till he can get something that works, he'll just run it from the Live disk

plush ruin Aug 12, 2024, 11:43 PM

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fringe sluice still not working on his laptop. He says that till he can get something that wo...

21.3 Edge ISO should work. Though rare, I have seen one other have Mint 22 installer issues. They had to install 21.3, then upgrade from it

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 1:21 AM

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plush ruin

OK, the download for ventoy came as an .iso file; How do I get to that part of it - I'm the 1st to admit that I still know less-than-nothing about Linux commands.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 1:37 AM

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keen latch OK, the download for ventoy came as an .iso file; How do I get to that part of i...

oh it's not the right download.

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if using Windows, get the zip

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on linux, get the tar

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 1:37 AM

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Using LMC 22 on my other laptop

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 1:38 AM

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then extract the tar.gz file.

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then have ur USB plugged in, open a terminal next to the file manager, go into the extract folder, and drag the ventoyGUI 64 file onto terminal, n hit enter

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then put sudo password, and u'll get the thing like in the pic ^^

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 2:33 AM

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Is Ventoy supposed to be on the stick when I go to load the LMC .iso?

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:35 AM

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This is what I get in Terminal:

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:35 AM

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keen latch Is Ventoy supposed to be on the stick when I go to load the LMC .iso?

no

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i mean hold up

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:35 AM

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Then I obviously did something wrong.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:36 AM

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you dragged the right file,

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idk what's the deal with that gtk widget thing.

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unless Mint 22 is dumb.

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however, there is a command line way to install to the USB

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:42 AM

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fringe sluice Then I obviously did something wrong.

try it this way

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https://ventoy.net/en/doc_linux_webui.html

Ventoy

Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:44 AM

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plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:44 AM

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keen latch Is Ventoy supposed to be on the stick when I go to load the LMC .iso?

yes and no. YES the installed ventoy LOADER must be present in the vtoyefi partition.. NO not anything else like the zip file, tar file, nor the extracted contents of such shall be on the USB stick

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:45 AM

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fringe sluice

log to the folder first

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:45 AM

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When I open the browser to go to the URL they're mentioning there, I get this

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:46 AM

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fringe sluice When I open the browser to go to the URL they're mentioning there, I get this

cuz it's not to be done like that. the web hook takes place from the terminal

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log to the folder please

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the ventoy extracted one inside ur downloads folder. the prompt in terminal must reflect that

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u may then ctrl-click the address once webhooked in the terminal.

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:47 AM

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plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:48 AM

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cd Downloads

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cd ventoy(tab key)

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all case sensitive in linux

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:49 AM

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OK, I'm there in Terminal

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:50 AM

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fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:50 AM

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Now, do the "sudo bash VentoyWeb.sh"?

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:50 AM

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ya

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just up arrow

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for the history

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:53 AM

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plush ruin

make sure u set it up with these shown options

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:53 AM

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fringe sluice Now, do the "sudo bash VentoyWeb.sh"?

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fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:54 AM

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On the Thumb drive

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:55 AM

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good

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copy the iso to the blank partition of stick

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:55 AM

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that's the only 'drive' it would let me do it on

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:55 AM

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let it rest a good 45 seconds after it reports to be finished

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:55 AM

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plush ruin copy the iso to the blank partition of stick

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fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:56 AM

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the LMC .iso or the ventoy one?

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:56 AM

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mint or whatever bootable ISO

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can put MX linux too or Ubuntu Cinnamon 24.. as many as will fit that u wanna test out.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:57 AM

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plush ruin let it rest a good 45 seconds after it reports to be finished

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fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:57 AM

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Hopefully, I copied it to the right one.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 2:58 AM

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yes the other partitition u see in Devices is the loader section. nothing to touch there

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so this is now gonna be used to either boot live and run live

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on any modern machine

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plus, it can be used to install with

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 2:59 AM

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OK, thanks - as I said, I'm still VERY new at this OS and know very little about the 'how to's' of it

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:00 AM

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if wasn't already mentioned.. main suspects to pick off are 1: windows fast startup (unless the hard drive is already empty) 2: Secure Boot in BIOS 3: turn off CSM/legacy support in BIOS 4: turn off Fast or Quick Boot in BIOS on the target computer u aim to install on

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:00 AM

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OK, I may be going back over to his place tomorrow sometime, hopefully he can get it installed (he's running a different version (I don't remember which one offhand) via the Live disk

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:00 AM

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btw

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:01 AM

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Secure boot is off - he made sure of that and fast boot is also off.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:01 AM

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ur thing should look like this now if set up right

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u can recheck same way as u launched the GUI the first time

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also test boot it on urs now

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:03 AM

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OK, when I formatted the USB, I left it at FAT32; let me redo it with exFAT

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:03 AM

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on the 2nd screen ^^

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:03 AM

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fringe sluice OK, when I formatted the USB, I left it at FAT32; let me redo it with exFAT

you'll need to Clear Ventoy

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in the options

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:03 AM

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I will be doing that

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:04 AM

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it doesnt matter anyway fat 32

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as long as it shows GPT on both sides

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exFAT is if u wanna put files or ISOs bigger than 4GB on it

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:05 AM

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plush ruin also test boot it on urs now

then verify the iso ON THE FLASH is good ^^

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compare to mint site

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:05 AM

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I cleared it before running that again.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:06 AM

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k

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i didnt know there was another option besides exFAT (default)

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:07 AM

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plush ruin or Mint 21.3 **EDGE**

download this one too now, and copy it over as well. save time for future in case 22 is F'kd

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:08 AM

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plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:10 AM

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plush ruin download this one too now, and copy it over as well. save time for future in cas...

and verify both ON THE FLASH STICK ITSELF, as shown by pic

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:11 AM

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i had some problems installing 22 on this laptop, but finally (with lots of help from people like you) got it running.
I really don't know why, after install & reboot, his is showing that message:
"BusyBox v1.36.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.36.1-6ubuntu3) built-in shell (ash)
(initramfs)"

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:11 AM

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initramfs is the very first step of the boot process

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RAM File System is making a virtual disk in memory

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from there, the linux kernel loads into it

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and apparently wasn't

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:12 AM

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what command should he enter when he gets that to keep it going?

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:12 AM

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there's no magic command that I know of

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it's a fucked install, basically

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that's why i said add the 21.3 and upgrade if needed

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hell the edge version may actually run more stable in fact

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u may also wanna comb over the BIOS config.. each category for any eyebrow raising flags

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:15 AM

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i think I'll do that - I'll use my Windows machine and d/l the 21.3 .iso to my thumb drive and have him install that instead (I had that one before 22 and it ran well)
I think he's using The EDGE version off of his stick (Live) temporarily

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:16 AM

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yeah copy it right beside 22 on the ventoy stick

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and please verify. them both.

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fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:17 AM

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checking verification now

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plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:19 AM

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cool

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do same for 21.3

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sha256.txt file would be on the mint download area for 21.3

fringe sluice Aug 13, 2024, 3:20 AM

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will do. Thank you, as well for being as patient with me as you've been.

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:20 AM

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noo problem

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wish u and ur friend luck

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oh and one other thing

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u may want to add this to your ventoy usb also

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since the new installs dont seem to provide much really truly introductory and pictorial material anymore

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 3:22 AM

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fringe sluice will do. Thank you, as well for being as patient with me as you've been.

save this file #1272611699341660241 message

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 3:28 AM

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21.3's still downloading - only about 10-15% done.

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 4:03 AM

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plush ruin save this file https://discord.com/channels/628978428019736619/12726116993416602...

He's not doing a dual boot (Windows/Linux), so there's no problem with having/wanting to switch back and forth

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 4:05 AM

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keen latch He's not doing a dual boot (Windows/Linux), so there's no problem with having/wa...

I meant save the pdf there and read it.

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 4:05 AM

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OK

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 4:05 AM

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and give to ur friend too

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 4:19 AM

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Happened to notice that it's for LMC 18 and not the more recent versions

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 4:21 AM

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keen latch Happened to notice that it's for LMC 18 and not the more recent versions

dont think new versions include it

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almost all applies, just ignore the KDE parts as that's not a supported desktop on Mint anymore

keen latch Aug 13, 2024, 4:24 AM

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Thanks. I'm printing it out for him now (and for myself), 2-sided printing to save paper and make it at least 'look' like a manual.

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And saved it on both the Linux machine and one of the Windows machines in their respective "Documents" folders.

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OK, both LMC .iso's (21.3 & 22) apparently passed the verification

plush ruin Aug 13, 2024, 4:38 AM

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k

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test boot both if u want

weary vapor Aug 13, 2024, 11:29 AM

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@keen latch apparently someone resolved by switching from RAID to AHCI

weary vapor Aug 15, 2024, 4:06 PM

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keen latch OK, both LMC .iso's (21.3 & 22) apparently passed the verification

did you figure it out?

keen latch Aug 15, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Not yet; I haven’t been back over to his place in a while

weary vapor Aug 15, 2024, 4:10 PM

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Ah ok

plush ruin Aug 23, 2024, 6:33 PM

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fringe sluice

hello

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^this is correct

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@keen latch ^^

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so try with different USB PORT on ur friend's computer, or with different Linux distro

fringe sluice Aug 28, 2024, 9:32 PM

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I used the only two ports he has on that laptop and also tried (besides LMC), Fedora and Ubuntu and got the same results each time I rebooted, so I finally re-installed Windows 10 (originally had 11) and gave the laptop back to him.
He does have another laptop that the battery swelled, and I told him if he can get that one repaired and the battery replaced, we'd try LMC on that one instead.

plush ruin Aug 28, 2024, 9:37 PM

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fringe sluice I used the only two ports he has on that laptop and also tried (besides LMC), Fe...

lol. you should've tried Pop OS, verified, and on Ventoy as I said, cuz it doesn't use grub.

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but yeah there's some computers that are just a pain and not made for Linux.

fringe sluice Aug 28, 2024, 11:07 PM

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I did try Pop OS and got the same result on reboot

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And I did use it via Ventoy

plush ruin Aug 28, 2024, 11:15 PM

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fringe sluice I did try Pop OS and got the same result on reboot

damn. it couldn't have been a grub error that time

plush ruin Aug 29, 2024, 1:13 AM

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ABANDONED (Was impossible on this make/model for MANY linux distros to install on)

#LMC 22 installation problems