fucked up installation i think? | Linux Mint Community🍵 | Page 1

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:09 PM

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I booted from USB, everything went well, however I got a question about unmounting partitions. Someone on Reddit had the same problem and the solution was to correctly shutdown the computer instead of letting it hibernate. I quit the installation (only got as far as choosing whether or not to install drivers), removed the USB and turned my computer off, then booted into Windows. I shut it down correctly this time, however upon choosing the USB in the boot menu, this is what I get

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:18 PM

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go back into Windows

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open a admin-mode command prompt, then type powercfg -h off

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that will turn off Fast Startup/Hybrid Hibernation.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:19 PM

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I already turned off Fast Startup earlier

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:20 PM

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then go back to BIOS, turn off Secure Boot (again), then reboot to the device "UEFI USB storage Drive"

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:21 PM

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also the drive looks like this now

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the USB that i flashed

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do i need to reflash or something?

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:21 PM

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ok.. should be more stuff in it

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check in boot

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kek

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:22 PM

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/grub/grub.cfg

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:22 PM

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nah nah.. should be a very large file .. like 100 Megs.. or 50 Megs

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:22 PM

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reflash?

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:22 PM

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lol what did u use to make it?

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:23 PM

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i used balena etcher

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:23 PM

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try with Ventoy, it's more reliable, versatile, and more featured

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:23 PM

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the first time i did it it worked fine when booting, but it showed up grey in the menu and the contents couldn't be accessed

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it was after i removed it that the folders appeared

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 PM

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viral sleet the first time i did it it worked fine when booting, but it showed up grey in th...

as in, in windows

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 PM

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if there isn't at least 2.5 to 3 Gigs on that drive, something's not right

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 PM

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well uh

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 PM

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get ventoy

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:24 PM

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tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:25 PM

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📎 Ventoy_install1-short.txt

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ventoy will also make your drive back to full capacity and usable for any other files.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:26 PM

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okay

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:48 PM

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@tropic bloom

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:49 PM

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meh.. reboot to BIOS, and turn Secure Boot off

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:50 PM

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tropic bloom then go back to BIOS, turn off Secure Boot (again), then reboot to the device "...

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viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 5:50 PM

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forgor

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sorry

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uh

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 5:59 PM

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hm

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try again to disable or set to "other OS"

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Or else search Youtube for "Thio joe ventoy" (ultimate usb) n jump halfway in to see how to boot WITH the SB support feature

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 6:03 PM

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how can I restore a usb to factory state?

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i want to try, since when i booted it the first time it worked fine

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 6:06 PM

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run ventoy installer again, do Clear ventoy from menu in it

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I would say first check if u had put secure boot support ON (default) in its Option menu

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 6:16 PM

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I managed to liveboot, but i still get the same question

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 6:20 PM

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open Disks app

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figure out ur disks names there, then decide ur answer

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i usually say no

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 6:30 PM

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Now the Something Else option? (Installation type)

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I’m supposed to create a root partition in sda’s free space, but neither have it

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it does show up but sda1 free space is 1mb and sda2 free space is 0mb

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:23 PM

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viral sleet it does show up but sda1 free space is 1mb and sda2 free space is 0mb

did u erase your Windows installation?

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 7:23 PM

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no, i chose the last option, this is a supposedly empty external disk

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:24 PM

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oh if it's an empty disk, cancel that

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start installer fresh, and do "erase and install Mint" then tell it the disk to do so with

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 7:24 PM

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oh

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:24 PM

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is it the only disk on the machine?

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 7:24 PM

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i just went back, didn’t have to cancel

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no, i have the internal with Windows and external which i want to use

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:25 PM

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hmm

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with detachable external ones, there can be issues if u put the bootloader to the internal drive. therefore:

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you should temporarily remove the internal drive. (power off) then install Linux (auto mode, erase and install) to the external.

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that is truly the safest way becuz if the drive was ever detached, and the internal OS boots, it'll likely shit itself blindly

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 7:27 PM

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how can i power off the internal?

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:27 PM

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or worse

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:27 PM

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viral sleet how can i power off the internal?

turn off machine.. open compartment or case .. unplug drive.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 7:27 PM

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it’s a laptop..

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:29 PM

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no easy open to change a drive?

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if that's the case, then do a manual install to the external drive.

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one FAT32-formatted partition about 100 MB, set with the ESP, boot flags in gparted

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the rest of the space, ext4-formatted.

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on page 5 of installer, click each in turn.. click change button, USE-AS (esp) and (ext4 journalling filesystem -- mount as / )

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near bottom, pick the external drive's SPECIFIC PARTITION where the ESP is on.

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done.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 7:58 PM

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It’s impossible to even open the backside sadly

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The screws are hidden under the rubber foot, which not only gets destroyed in the process, but the screws themselves are covered in a thick layer of adhesive

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 7:59 PM

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then do as above

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 8:07 PM

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I do the partitions in the liveboot? and what does [set with the esp, boot flags in gparted] mean

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i know what gparted is, just the rest

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 8:14 PM

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they're flags that must be set for the partition. just right click on the partition line. pick manage flags, then check off those two and nothing else.

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and make sure in the installer the proper one is chosen and edited to USE AS "ESP"

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yes in the live boot, use gparted to prep those few things, before running up the installer. If u see any key symbols on partitions, right-click: Unmount.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 8:17 PM

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thanks

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:02 PM

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I tried Ventoy again since for some reason I etcher won’t work anymore, i used GPT partition and disabled secure boot support (it is also turned off in bios)

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i get this error:

Invalid signature detected. Check secure boot policy in setup

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:06 PM

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should have left Secure Boot Support enabled as the default had it in the Ventoy Options.

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you're not managing to actually disable Secure Boot in the BIOS. that's what's blocking you.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:07 PM

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how can i do it then? i disabled it and saved

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:07 PM

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let's have a look at your BIOS screens

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:08 PM

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ginme sec

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It’s enabled now. I’m 100% certain I disabled it last time

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:15 PM

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yeah it tends to re-enable itself almost each time u boot Windows. lol

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:16 PM

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Jesus

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:16 PM

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viral sleet Jesus

while you're there, turning it off, move the boot device priority up a notch (the UEFI USB HDD ) to top of list

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so u can eventually hopefully boot ur external install.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:17 PM

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if it turns on each time what’s the point to even do that

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i’ll redo the usb and then do it each time manually

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:18 PM

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hm?

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:18 PM

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i hate this shit man if it wasnt for microsoft being annoying id give up already

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:19 PM

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tropic bloom hm?

if it turns itself on every single time i boot into windows, and i boot into it a lot since the usb doesn’t work rn, what’s the point to even go into bios now

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:19 PM

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right. turn it off, boot ventoy, and do the manual install. when it's done, it will tell u to unplug the "install medium" and press enter.. remove the ventoy stick, but certainly leave the external HDD connected. and it should auto-boot Linux from it.

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and move the device list up a notch

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:21 PM

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rn i’m having trouble even accessing the live version, that’s why i’m trying every method

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i booted live a few times using balena and it was alright and i thought i had figured it out but im getting the same error as previously

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this one

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:22 PM

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that's happening now with your Etcher stick?

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oh, i did say let's have a look at your BIOS pages

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prob need to kill fastboot/quickboot in BIOS

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:25 PM

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viral sleet It’s enabled now. I’m 100% certain I disabled it last time

i recommend extend the POST hotkey delay to 5 seconds, or next closest thing.. SB OFF, UEFI USB Flash drive/ USB Hard disk to top of list.. then show Security and Config categories.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:28 PM

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tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:30 PM

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k one sec

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ok in security, turn TPM state to disabled. and explore the UEFI HII option in the Config. category

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:37 PM

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tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:46 PM

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oooooh SNAP

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intel RST is always a pain in these cases.

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if there's anything important on ur Windows drive, get in it and back it up to an totally separate external drive, or upload to online storage.

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then gotta come back in here in pic 1, and turn off Intel RST.

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wait wait.. sorry no.

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ur installing on an EXTERNAL disk, I forgot. 😄

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:51 PM

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tropic bloom if that's the case, then do a manual install to the external drive.

carry on with these steps once you set the BIOS things as discussed.. (leave intel RST alone too)

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:52 PM

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okay

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thank you for the man 🙏🙏

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:53 PM

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🙏

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:54 PM

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I still get the invalid signature lol

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I’ll try once again with the etcher tomorrow

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OH SHIT

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@tropic bloom

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:54 PM

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viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:54 PM

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i got bitlocker

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:55 PM

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well... that'd be more of an issue if u were installing onto the nvme

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which you are not

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:55 PM

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what am i supposed to do

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i dont want to lose my data

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:55 PM

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watch the thio joe vid from the middle.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:55 PM

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i got bitlocker while booting on the normal drive

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:55 PM

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also boot Windows now and back up

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:56 PM

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i got it wyen booting windows

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:56 PM

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oof

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stupid bitlocker. turn TPM back on i guess.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:57 PM

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can i turn off and go into bios normally? wont lose anything?

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 10:57 PM

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that's where the BL key is kept

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just ctrl-alt-delete.. that'll restart to POST screen

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 10:58 PM

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its not workinf

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i got the key i am NOT touching that shit again

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it also deleted my windows pin and logged me out atp ill back everythinf up

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 11:25 PM

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so , u managed to log into and reach the Windows desktop, save some files, and then it logged you out?

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 11:26 PM

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no, i got the key, recovered etc

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its fine rn, it scared me thats why ill backup

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 11:28 PM

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yep good idea. the encryption thing is a bit of a hindrance in these cases.. as for the Secure boot causing that black mok error screen.. i can't say why. but if need be watch the WHOLE thio joe vid, he shows how to make a ventoy usb WITH secure boot support enabled, AND how to enroll it in those Mok blue screens.

viral sleet Jul 2, 2024, 11:28 PM

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i’ll watch it tmrw, thankuu

tropic bloom Jul 2, 2024, 11:30 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuonyS3xdwg

YouTube

ThioJoe

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▶ Play video

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setting to use for rather new computers ^

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how it should look once prepared right. (including the lock symbols there)

lofty terrace Jul 3, 2024, 12:12 AM

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Hello. I was using this chat to fix the same problom on my end but got lost. If it ok. May I join in this chat?

tropic bloom Jul 3, 2024, 12:20 AM

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lofty terrace Hello. I was using this chat to fix the same problom on my end but got lost. If ...

sure

lofty terrace Jul 3, 2024, 12:22 AM

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Wait! Sorry. I jumped the gun and it look like I got it. I been reading tho your chat. I got Ventoy and it look like it works for now. Thank you

tropic bloom Jul 3, 2024, 12:23 AM

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ok koo

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:03 PM

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hey @tropic bloom , i managed to boot via ventoy finally, could you help me with the installation? i had problems with my disk the last time

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:04 PM

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sure

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wow this was from almost a month ago.

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:06 PM

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yeah, i was on holiday and then i needed a mental break from this laptop lol

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what does this mean? i assume it refers to my external disk that i want to install on

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:07 PM

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I can NEVER tell 😛 open DISKS from the start menu

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see which is sdb

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:08 PM

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ventoy usb stick is sda, big drive is sdb

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:09 PM

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are those the only drives on the PC?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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viral sleet

I recall this was an issue last time.

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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yeah

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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you want to install to an external hard drive now?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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tropic bloom are those the only drives on the PC?

there’s also an internal, which is marked as /dev/

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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dev what?

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check the titlebar

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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I wanted to install to the external in the first place (sdb)

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:12 PM

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ok so make sure the external drive is plugged in right now

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:12 PM

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internal

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:12 PM

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then show a picture of the Disks app

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:12 PM

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the one i want to install to is the ADATA

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:13 PM

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yep. i see the device name from the previous picture. dev/nvme0n1 (just stay away from that one)

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click the 1 TB drive, and then check the title bar

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:14 PM

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tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:15 PM

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good. u see in titlebar it is called sdb

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since sda is the USB stick, and nvme0n1 was never mounted to begin with, you can just answer "No" to the question about unmounting other devices.

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@viral sleet what option did you choose in the beginning of the installation? was it "Erase disk and install" ?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:16 PM

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that option is further in the installation

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so nothing as of now

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:17 PM

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well what did u choose?

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i mean, what do u want? do u want to erase all of sdb ?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:17 PM

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I want to erase the disk

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yes, all of sdb

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:17 PM

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oh great, that's the automatic way. just tell it that disk

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but it will put grub loader on the nvme disk

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:18 PM

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is that a problem?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:18 PM

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do you want to do that?

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it mayyyyy be a problem if u unplug the drive sometimes,

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:19 PM

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is there a way to just put everything on the external?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:19 PM

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yes. u have to pick the something else option

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let me know when ur there

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:20 PM

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I had this issue the last time, it shows as if the disk was full

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:21 PM

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let me have a close examination of it, one sec

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ok can you skip backward a step in the installer please.

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@viral sleet

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then open gparted program in start menu.

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:24 PM

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viral sleet what does this mean? i assume it refers to my external disk that i want to insta...

This popped up again when I clicked „back”

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no again?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:25 PM

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um.. idk leave that alone for now

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open gparted

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:25 PM

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opened

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:25 PM

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choose the 1 TB disk in the top right selector box

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you have nothing on this disk correct? it can be wiped?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:26 PM

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there is nothing, just the files that came with the disk and a copy of mint 22 iso because i had to download it via someone elses computer due to lack of wifi

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everythinf can be deleted

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:27 PM

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viral sleet there is nothing, just the files that came with the disk and a copy of mint 22 i...

ok let's make it fully clean ok?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:28 PM

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yeah sure

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:28 PM

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cuz I see some funny stuff re: ms partition and exfat right now

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go to the Device menu in gparted

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make sure u dont change the disk. keep it the 1 TB one selected

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then in Device Menu, choose make new partition table

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and use GPT option

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:29 PM

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tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:29 PM

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oops forgot to unmount

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:29 PM

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unmount?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:29 PM

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see that key symbol?

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right click that and choose unmount

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:30 PM

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cant i just unmount via the installer? since jts asking for it anyway

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:30 PM

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no

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just right click the key in gparted

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:30 PM

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tropic bloom and use GPT option

then back to this

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:31 PM

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done

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:31 PM

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ok now it's fully unallocated

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:31 PM

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yes

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:31 PM

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right click in it, do "new"

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which will be the first partition

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make it 150 MiB , as FAT32

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:33 PM

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align to MiB?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:33 PM

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sure, space preceding, zero (or 1 MiB)

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then click add

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:33 PM

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done

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:34 PM

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now on the remaining space, right click, do new, and make the rest ext4

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:34 PM

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tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:35 PM

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excellent, now click the big green checkmark to finalize

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but dont close gparted yet

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:36 PM

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done

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:37 PM

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k good. right click pt'n 1, and "manage flags"

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add just this: ESP, and BOOT

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then close gparted , (you can reopen it to make sure the flags stayed)

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:38 PM

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okay, now „something else” in the installation?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:39 PM

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yep

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i guess answer no to unmounting?

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so the flags stuck, right?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:39 PM

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in gparted rhey show up

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:39 PM

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great

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you can close gparted then

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now in the something else setup, you see the chart

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:40 PM

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it seems to have stayed the same though

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:40 PM

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yes this chart

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cancel the installer... start again

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it should reflect the new filesystems

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(FAT32, plus EXT4 - for p1, and p2 respectively)

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:42 PM

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shows up

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:43 PM

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wonderful. now we're getting somewhere

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ok click p2, then "change" button

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and put "use as" to ext4 system

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and mountpoint to /

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then same for p1, change> and use as: EFI system Partition

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I don't think it needs a mountpoint once you change it to EFI Sys. Part.

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:46 PM

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done

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:46 PM

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after all that, in bottom of main window, you will see: Bootloader location.. change it to sdb1

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so it WONT go onto the nvme

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:47 PM

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ok install?

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all looks okay

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:48 PM

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let me have a final inspection

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yes click install or continue button

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read over the final summary, and if u agree, then proceed

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:50 PM

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it will automatically install on the partition? i dont need to choose anything?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:51 PM

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yes

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we just set all the options up.

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the only thing AFTER installation to do, is take out the USB flash stick when it tells you to, then press Enter, and as the machine restarts, IMMEDIATELY press the BIOS key to adjust Boot order to the USB 1 TB.

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and then it will boot to it.

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(if u ever remove the USB hard drive, and need Windows, you'll need to change boot order back to Windows Boot Manager in the BIOS)

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:53 PM

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can i just keep the order as is? and ill boot into mint manually every time

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i might sometimes be somewhere without the drive and it will be a nuisance

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:53 PM

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sure

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 7:54 PM

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its ok?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 7:55 PM

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continue

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already formatted earlier with gparted

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now wait 23 minutes n done

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:07 PM

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everything is fine!!!!!

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thank you so much man i appreciate the help<3

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:07 PM

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viral sleet its ok?

when it's all finished you'll choose "ubuntu" from bios boot menu

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oh it finished fast?

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:08 PM

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for some reason the ubuntu boot option is higher than windows

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yeah it finished in like 6 minutes

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:08 PM

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wow fast hdd

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:08 PM

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ssd actually lol

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:09 PM

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u can change boot order, or just use grub to go to windows, while the external islugged in

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:09 PM

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ill change it asap

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thankuuuuu

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:12 PM

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viral sleet thankuuuuu

you're welcome! you may want to make a separate backup btrfs partition on the adata ( let's say 300 GB) to save Timeshift snapshots before u break ur linux system 😛

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(u must use the ventoy usb and gparted for that to shrink the big ext4 a bit)

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:14 PM

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shrink the big one by 300 gb and just make a new one in the btrfs format?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:14 PM

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exactly

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:14 PM

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why do i need usb for that?

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:15 PM

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then timeshift use the btrfs backup option

tropic bloom Jul 29, 2024, 8:15 PM

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viral sleet why do i need usb for that?

u cant edit from Windows or from running linux same drive

viral sleet Jul 29, 2024, 8:15 PM

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okay

#fucked up installation i think?