A bit after boot my mouse begins to lag behind my mouse movement, like it stops responding for fractions of a second at a time every second to few seconds. I was using nvidia-driver-545 as it fixed [a different issue](#1206137623039582208 message), but downgraded to nd-535 to see if it would fix the problem to no avail.
The results of inxi -Fz are attached to this post
#Mouse Lag Spikes Consistently
rose mortar
carmine grove
Hi! Are you using a wireless mouse? Or one with a cord?
rose mortar
it can be wireless, but i plugged a usb c cord into it then into my computer, and that functions normally
plucky swift
it can be wireless, but i plugged a usb c cord into it then into my computer, an...
so you don't have the problem when it's plugged in?
carmine grove
I had a similar issue with my cordless mouse, I had to move my computer -where the cordless reciever is, a little thumb usb reciever- and mouse closer to each other. Be sure there is no or little interference inbetween mouse and its reciever, and check the battery status of the mouse
rose mortar
so you don't have the problem when it's plugged in?
I do have the lag when its plugged in
rose mortar
It charges when plugged in so it shouldn't be battery, and the direct connection means it shouldn't lag unless there's something going on machine-side, right?
carmine grove
Did you try a different mouse to see if it happens with that one too?
plucky swift
It charges when plugged in so it shouldn't be battery, and the direct connection...
i apologise, you probably thought this question would be a little less annoying, lol
okay, here's my thoughts
whether its windows or linux, a wireless mouse is susceptible to certain issues. namely, if it is in a usb hub - or, if it is plugged into certain ports of the PC. for example, i can think of certain dell PCs where if you plug it into the back where there is no paint or plastic between the dongle and the metal frame, it performs like shit
regarding whether or not its using wireless when plugged in: I don't know. from the looks of your log at the time you gathered it, I can't see reference to a mouse at all (someone smarter than me please correct me)
unless there is a physical switch that makes it go from wireless to cabled, i'd guess its probably just using that cable to charge
now, here's yet another question for you: does this wireless mouse have a dongle or is it using bluetooth?
rose mortar
so the mouse is turned off, but works as usual when plugged in, which is how i've been using it-- plugged in via usb while the mouse is off
if i unplug it the cursor doesnt recieve input and the lights in the mouse turn off
its plugged into the back of the computer, in a usb port with some blue markings in the port-- i think that signifies a better connection compared to ones that lack it? ill get a picture of those ports imminently
plucky swift
no, thats okay
what im asking is...here...
let me simplify this. what is the model of the mouse?
rose mortar
A steelseries Areox 5 Wireless
plucky swift
rose mortar
i keep it in the middle position
plucky swift
alright. so its not some cheapo thing that isnt clear about what its doing. when it is 'off' and plugged in its not using BT NOR is it using a dongle
so yeah, doesnt sound like a wireless issue
hmmm
so, i've dealt with tech issues for work for like 5 years, but that doesnt make me smart
and im pretty new to linux. but like, here's the test I would do as my dummy brain:
look for like, cat or dog hair in the sensor.
if you're using a shiny or reflective surface, try a different surface.
you could also try seeing if you can left or right click when it lags like this. if you can, then i'd say you're dealing with a sensor issue, caused by the above. if not, we're still probably looking at a driver/linux software issue.
rose mortar
my surface is an old trackpad, and im not seeing or feeling the drifting today, so im unsure if its that
im feeling some more general lag, but ive got firefox, discord, and a lighter unity game open on good hardware? im not sure, its annoying but im uncertain of the issue
the mouse is also fairly new, bought around december, so i dont think the mouse is already failing
rose mortar
so how can i investigate and troubleshoot driver/software?
plucky swift
im slightly engaged at the moment so i apologise for not being more helpful, I will try to get back to you more later - but I guess my next troubleshooting question would be, when did this problem start?
i wasn't sure if you were saying it started after a graphics driver change
rose mortar
unfortunately i dont remember either, but i dont think that should matter since the driver where it was ambiguous where this issue was present or not had a different issue where the tty the main desktop environment was in would just crash out to terminal
carmine grove
Hello again! I apologise for not coming back sooner. Could you reformulate that last sentence, im having some trouble understanding. Did you mean: it being a graphics driver that was not to be trusted?
By now, we have a higher version kernel for 21.3 Virginia looks like, would you be willing to try updating through update manager?
And, could you try disabling fractional scaling? Its under: right click desktop> display settings> settings
disable fractional scaling
rose mortar
Hello again! I apologise for not coming back sooner. Could you reformulate that ...
Sure, and no worries for the delay-- the driver I was using before, an open source xorg driver, had a different, worse issue that was solved by changing to standard nvidia drivers, so i would rather not change back to xorg drivers to fix the mouse problem
carmine grove
Sure, and no worries for the delay-- the driver I was using before, an open sour...
Thanks for the clarification! In this case its good to stick with the proprietary drivers
rose mortar
ill try out the kernel update and look into disabling fractional scaling in a bit and get back to this thread after
rose mortar
fractional scaling controls have been off, updating now
rose mortar
havent felt anything but havent seen any lag thusfar-- gonna push the system a little and see if things act up
rose mortar
things feel better! ill poke this chat if that changes
carmine grove
Allright! Sounds promising!
rose mortar
it's back :(
but its not consistent
and it is just regular lag spikes-- they impact mouse movement and whatever else is happening like a game
carmine grove
Hopefully we can empower each other to solve this together, I typed "dmesg" to get a log of what the hardware is doing
Sorry I had to remove my log, it was showing some sensitive information.
Im researching this problem, its driving me nuts.
I found a support thread from 2 years ago with similar problems: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=366983
It talks about using different kernels.
And it talks about seeing if there is a newer version of BIOS/UEFI available, power management may be a factor.
rose mortar
Sorry I had to remove my log, it was showing some sensitive information.
should i share my dmesg as well? if so, what type of sensitive info was in yours, so i look for and redact it before sharing mine?
idk how i didint see this until now tho-- the fake ping on the server icon drew me in lol
carmine grove
should i share my dmesg as well? if so, what type of sensitive info was in yours...
in mine there were mac addresses to my network devices
rose mortar
redacted what looked like they could be mac addresses or keys of some kind 👍
lmk if there is anything sensitive is still here
(do also ping me here when you respond, notifications dont seem to be coming through for this)
carmine grove
thanks for posting that, I dont see any weird error messages in correlation with your steel series mouse or some weird interupts with wireless devices.
maybe Goose can find something out of ordinary.
im gonna ask some questions again, have you tried running your mouse on all the different modes it supports? bluetooth and 2.4 Ghz?