Ram suggestion and issues!

[safe ore]

Hello, i currently own a HP 245 G5 and want to upgrade to 4+4GB ram

Current ram stick is this

Will normal DDR3 ram will work cause the HP website says DDR3L?

I am confused

[safe ore]

seems like a ddr3l

Take a look at this Hynix 1600Mhz low voltage DDR3 4 GB Laptop (SkHynix HMT451S6AFR8A-PB PC3L 1600s) on Flipkart
https://dl.flipkart.com/s/OLROjZNNNN

Take a look at this Crucial LAPTOP RAM DDR3 4 GB (Single Channel) Laptop LAPTOP RAM MEMORY (4 GB DDR3L 1600Mhz SoDIMM 204 pins LAPTOP MEMORY) on Flipkart
https://dl.flipkart.com/s/a2jV2wuuuN

I guess this should work fine?

[vestal orbit]

Make sure to use DDR3L, which means "low-voltage DDR3". It runs at 1.35V, as opposed to the normal 1.5V for DDR3. Laptops especially can be picky and only support the 1.35V. And you may want to get 2x8GB. There are exceedingly few systems that can only support 8GB, and a 2x8 kit is quite cheap these days, even after the recent price increases.

[safe ore]

Will this work?
@vestal orbit
And i know i should upgrade to 16gb but i have to buy other components too so yeah

[vestal orbit]

There is never a 100% guarantee a RAM module will work, but as long as you have a free SO-DIMM DDR3 slot, this one should be 99.9%

[safe ore]

Okay

[safe ore]

Take a look at this Crucial DDR3 DDR3 8 GB (Dual Channel) Laptop RAM (CT102464BF160B) on Flipkart
https://dl.flipkart.com/dl/crucial-ddr3-8-gb-dual-channel-laptop-ram-ct102464bf160b/p/itme354jxqdfscft?pid=RAMGA7PE5DHSJJNP&cmpid=product.share.pp&_refId=PP.5fa8bd12-6829-4c76-995c-1c44284ffa0a.RAMGA7PE5DHSJJNP&_appId=CL

Will this work?
My laptop supports single channel though but i have one 4gb Ddr3L kingston ram installed i want to install that too!

[safe ore]

They send ddr3l though

[vestal orbit]

Dual channel means two modules. If they are selling dual channel, they are selling a two-module kit. So either the picture with the single module is wrong, or they have no idea what dual channel means. A board with a single memory channel can still have two SO-DIMM slots. So if you want to make sure this fits, make sure it is only one module.

[safe ore]

No like my laptop is single channel
Will that ram work?

It has dual sodimm slots and is ddr3L

I'm confused

[vestal orbit]

Yes, it should work.

But if they send you two modules, you will have three modules for two slots.

[safe ore]

😅i am not a tech geek so didn't understand

[vestal orbit]

Apparently, that seller you linked does not understand, either.

[safe ore]

Lol

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Like if it's okay, i can place the order

[vestal orbit]

You can have two modules on a single channel. The modules do not know about single or dual channel, so you just get another module.

[safe ore]

It should work ig

[shadow solstice]

Lemme simplify dis

How many ram slots u got?

[safe ore]

2

One is filled with KINGSTON DDR3L ram

[shadow solstice]

How much ?

[safe ore]

4gb

It is single channel

[shadow solstice]

So u can get 2 of these

It seems like they are selling a single stick

[safe ore]

Ik but i don't have enough money lol

So 4+8 should work

[shadow solstice]

Them u can buy a single stick and keep the existing Kingston ran

ram

[safe ore]

Yeah maybe swap the slots

[shadow solstice]

To get 12 gigs of ram total

[safe ore]

Slot#1 8gb
Slot#2 4gb

[shadow solstice]

Yea

[safe ore]

Mint runs smoothly but still

Thinking to move the mint drive to caddy

[shadow solstice]

More ram is always better

[safe ore]

And install windows in main drive

[shadow solstice]

Caddy uses the DVD sata

[safe ore]

It's SATA ik

[shadow solstice]

So it will be slower to boot n stuff

[safe ore]

Idc about booting slow as

I will just use it for day to day activities like productive

Studying, watching vids

Less distracting cause I'll install few games on windows :/

[shadow solstice]

Okay

[safe ore]

It worked guys (ram)

[shadow solstice]

@safe ore great!

[safe ore]

It shows 6.7gib smth

I forgot
But in real system it shows 12gb

Ik gib is different

[safe ore]

So, if anyone has single channel laptop
He can use dual channel ram there just make sure voltage is right and ddr3 or ddr3l is right

[shadow solstice]

Dual channel ram as far I've seen, refers to ram capable of running in dual channel, so yea it should run in single channel just fine provided its the correct kind of ram

[vestal orbit]

The confusion has been about vendors selling single modules as "dual channel" because they are braindead morons.

Sometimes, half-knowledge is worse than no knowledge.

[shadow solstice]

They think their brain is dual channel ddr5, when it is actually single channel ddr 2

[safe ore]

is it 12gb
i converted to gb and it said 8gb?

[shadow solstice]

No its 8

[safe ore]

Huh

[shadow solstice]

Not 12, what processor do u have

[safe ore]

.

Max is 16gb

In bios it shows 12gb

But mint shows 8

[safe ore]

I did some cmd test(forgot)
It showed 12 too

8+4

But mint shows 8gb

[shadow solstice]

@ruby rain

[shadow solstice]

Wait, open system monitor and go to the 'performance tab'

[safe ore]

Okay

[shadow solstice]

Either mint is reporting wrong or we may have discovered a unique issue here

[ruby rain]

kek

[shadow solstice]

Open terminal and do
sudo apt install neofetch
neofetch

[ruby rain]

free -h

[safe ore]

ok

[shadow solstice]

Its not even the full 8gb, let alone 12

[safe ore]

😦

[shadow solstice]

Try reseating the 4 gb stick, or removing it, booting into mint and then put it back in

[safe ore]

but in bios shows 12gb?

[shadow solstice]

As I said, a unique issue

[safe ore]

😦 need to open the laptop again smh

[shadow solstice]

Do u have any other oses on this PC or the mint live boot usb

[safe ore]

no mint only

[shadow solstice]

Do u have the mint installer ?

[safe ore]

i can download?

[shadow solstice]

Yea, get it, put it on a USB and boot into it and see how much ram u get there

[safe ore]

ok

[shadow solstice]

U Indian by chance?

[safe ore]

Yeah?

[shadow solstice]

Cool, me too

[safe ore]

Nice lol

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its crucial 8gb stick shows --------

check this

i doubt even if its real crucial

[ruby rain]

if it doesnt register in free -h it's an OS problem, and possibly related to a certain BIOS memory lane setting

[shadow solstice]

That's why I said to check live boot

Cause we'll be sure its not an os problem and a bios problem

[safe ore]

Ok

[ruby rain]

are you sure u put the two correct sticks in?

[safe ore]

Yes ig?
As it shows in bios

[ruby rain]

ohh

right

[safe ore]

And a weird cmd too

[ruby rain]

perhaps turn off quickboot in BIOS.. it might be skipping the memory test

[ruby rain]

see if anywhere in BOOT or ADVANCED or CONFIGURATION of BIOS u can find Quick Boot or Quickstart

[safe ore]

Using those cmds shows 2 banks are used

[ruby rain]

idk which commands u mean

anyways check the BIOS as I described

[safe ore]

Okay

[safe ore]

Checked

Time to check quickboot now

I guess there is no quick boot option @ruby rain

Running memory test ig, says 1hr to complete

Ram suggestion and issues!

[vestal orbit]

sudo apt install cpu-x > check memory tab and see if it shows both. If so, your BIOS is too stupid to run the upper 4GB of the second module. If so, you can only do 4+4 or 8+8.

[vestal orbit]

Pretty much this. BIOS is too stupid. Nothing you can do, except get 8+8GB.

[safe ore]

:/

i guess if the laptop shows 8gb im fine

[safe ore]

But the bios says 12gb though?

[vestal orbit]

It detects both modules. But it cannot address differently-sized modules. Your only recourse is looking for BIOS updates that may fix it, pester your laptop manufacturer, or install two same-size modules.
Generally, on a standards-conformant system, it should work with 4+8, but your system does not conform to standards.

[safe ore]

Yeah, they told

Never buying HP products again
Better to buy ASUS or MSI

Yeah very useful feature

[trim veldt]

Linux can't solve an issue with the BIOS.

[safe ore]

Ik, HP staff being dumb lol

[ruby rain]

oh God that broken English.. from what's supposed to be highly-educated support staff that must be excellent in English. Disgusting.

it was like reading gibberish

[vestal orbit]

If your support talks gibberish, you might be talking to discount ChatGPT.

[safe ore]

Lol

[safe ore]

Ik sometimes i feel like i have more knowledge than them

[vestal orbit]

That might be more than a feeling. So, to sum it up: Stay on that memory if it is stable, then get a second 8GB module to replace the 4GB one whenever you can. The expectation is that both 8GB modules together should be used fully, putting you at 16GB. You could just take the 4GB module out, which would still put you at 8GB. Perhaps trade it with somebody else who only has 4GB.

[safe ore]

yeah need to sell that 4gb stick
its KINGSTON so i can get good amount of money

ig its stable, it passed mem test

[vestal orbit]

First test without it and see if your system is stable, then you can sell it.

[safe ore]

It should be as my system ignores that 4gb stick anyways, and the 8gb stick I'm using is not cheap so yeah

If i knew I'd face this shit issue i would have bought a 4gb ram instead

[vestal orbit]

It is possible that your system currently uses the 4GB module and half of the 8GB one.

[safe ore]

Bios so dumb i think probably not lmao

8gb is in Slot 1

4gb in 2

[vestal orbit]

Anyway, test before you make decisions.

[safe ore]

It will be late to sell, as my friends own gaming laptops with latest tech and here's I'm stuck with old lol
So hard to find that ddr3 low voltage guy

And yeah I'll test

[vestal orbit]

There are millions of old laptops out there that would improve a lot by going from 4 to 8GB.

[shadow solstice]

Send me the number for the HP support guy, imma see what I can get outta him

Oh they are offline in India rn

Nvm