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[thorn willow]

is your computer 2017 or much much newer?

[drifting parrot]

2018

Asus VivoBook X505B

[thorn willow]

ok, very reasonable

let me have a look at the vid

[drifting parrot]

ok so that... thing happened

[thorn willow]

ok that's the USB session trying to start up?

[drifting parrot]

yes

[thorn willow]

in the entry menu, pick a different graphics mode if shown

[drifting parrot]

tbh i dont really have my phone until tomorrow

i should try tomorrow at morning

but ima update this as soon as i get something new

[thorn willow]

alrighty.

[drifting parrot]

ok ok so

on compatibility mode it does work, not the touchpad (mouse) tho

i could install all of this with they keyboard but

doesnt seem like a good idea, bc then what

[thorn willow]

try the Mint edge iso instead

i'd have thought the standard would suffice, but seems not in the case of touchpad support

in ur case anyway, and the rare other

[drifting parrot]

ok so mint edge, i download and repeat the whole thing??

screen goes wild

@thorn willow

whats the difference btw

[thorn willow]

the edge iso has a much more recent kernel (linux is a kernel) possibly a greater reach in hardware support

[thorn willow]

yes

it's worth a shot anyway.

[drifting parrot]

i kinda hope?

[thorn willow]

just bear in mind not every single computer ever made on Earth is friendly/fully compatible with linux

plus there's other distros too to test out that are more bleeding edge, like Endeavour, Arch, Fedora, etc

[drifting parrot]

i was told to try mint, debian, ubuntu and lubuntu
if none of them works then im tossing this thing in the trash

[thorn willow]

if u try Debian, get the live iso's - google Debian cd images

if u try Ubuntu, go with Budgie, or MATE

unless u like the drastically different Gnome desktop the flagship ships with

[thorn willow]

I just saw this thing. Looks sweet as heck. Don't trash it!!

[drifting parrot]

i mean the ventilators are horrible, the thing gets too hot just by running win 10 (but it wont let me install any other os really) and u know, all pf that

i mean it works, i just need to find the correct linux distro

[drifting parrot]

i am downloading mint edge rn

[drifting parrot]

i thought all linux distros came with like live usb images

[slender meadow]

Most do these days, but Debian defaults to an old-school installer, with a live ISO as an added option.

[thorn willow]

how's that going?

[drifting parrot]

i need a whole hour up until edge is done

and then flash it (15 min)

and then try it on the bios

[thorn willow]

oh ok

[slender meadow]

I looked that thing up. Apparently it is an AMD line, can come with Ryzen or the craptastic A-series Bulldozer leftover APUs. But these had Radeons all the way. If the display goes bananas on the 3D-accelerated driver, it might be a broken GPU. It would be very odd for a 2018 Radeon to not work with a 5.15 kernel, but let's see how it does with that newer one.

[drifting parrot]

wait it is beacause of a faulty gpu

[drifting parrot]

amd a9, yeah

it had some problems with 8.1 since it didnt recognize some elements

[slender meadow]

That Radeon R5 is not great, but it should work normally, unless it is broken or something is borked with the driver.

[drifting parrot]

i mean, i forced win 8.1 in here

it runned win 10 natively, i might've fucked it up

bc i used generic drivers in order for win 8.1 to work

from driverpack.io

[slender meadow]

No, that would not break the hardware in most cases. Overheating could break it, like with an incorrectly installed cooler.

If it still displays normally on Windows, then we just need to find you the right kernel/driver to make it work.

[drifting parrot]

yeah this laptop gets hotter than the fucking sun for no reason

[drifting parrot]

yeah it is correct on windows, i guess edge should work

[slender meadow]

It might be time to clean out the dust and check the fans, if you can access that part.

[drifting parrot]

i wanted to do it since like 3 years ago but i do not have the tools to open it

i should go with someone who can clean all of this mess

[slender meadow]

If you have a tinkerer friend, perhaps buy them a beer or coffee to have a look. I do that all the time for the people I know.

[drifting parrot]

there was a thing to check the temperature in the task manager i think??

[drifting parrot]

maybe, i will check out with someone who repairs computers atp

[drifting parrot]

sadly i do not have a friend like that

[slender meadow]

You can check as often as you want, but the dust bunnies will only come out if you open it and chase them out.

[drifting parrot]

yeah i guess so

i mean 6 years without clearing dust must be the rason this is so fucking wild

either that or termal paste, i guess that needs to be changed as well

[slender meadow]

Re-pasting makes sense, if you trust yourself to do it. Here is how to disassemble that thing. You basically want to remove only the fan assembly once it is open and clean it out with a brush or (gently) with compressed air or a vacuum cleaner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcZFapu7jpI

[drifting parrot]

i see

tbh i should install linux first, then do the cleaning after

[drifting parrot]

edge worked!!

@thorn willow

everything seems just fine in live usb mode, should i install linux mint rn? or is there anything else i need to know before doing it??

[drifting parrot]

edge works

everything runs so smoothly btw

i love itttt, thanks a lot i love yall

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[slender meadow]

Enjoy. And remember to try and clean it out someday.

[drifting parrot]

its perfect

im on live usb rn, its so smooth

[thorn willow]

oh nice.

[drifting parrot]

i already installed it

i need a reboot and thats all, wish me luck 🙂

[thorn willow]

install a small app called psensor to keep track of your pc's temperatures, and Google 'Kingpin thermal paste' for high quality stuff.

[drifting parrot]

psensor?

where do i download it + is it in .deb?

[drifting parrot]

tbh it isnt even overheating rn with linux

i had every fancy thing disables in windows and just like the browser opened and it used to be so hot that the keys burnt my fingers

but here, i have the browser, discord, and the system monitor, and it is cold

this is soooo coool

[thorn willow]

heh

[drifting parrot]

i should've switched to mint like 4 years ago

anyways can i pirate games in here

[thorn willow]

well u should keep an eye on system monitor every so often, just to see the CPU graph

and still get psensor

[drifting parrot]

okay okay

[drifting parrot]

it is fine isnt it?

like, just havin windows opened used to take 60% CPU

[thorn willow]

that's basically idle, unless you play some hi-def 60fps Youtube in browser

[drifting parrot]

i mean i dont use yt in computer

bc im traumatized by windows when opening vids

[thorn willow]

well now u can, anyway

[drifting parrot]

i hope

i love this btw, im never going back to windows

i literally installed brave by copying and pasting a command in the terminal

[thorn willow]

Firefox works really fast too. and if u want less ad banners and tracking, put Firefox security mode to "Strict" in its settings.

[drifting parrot]

this is cool af

[drifting parrot]

i setted up brave to block trackers, firefox isnt my personal favorite bc its kinda slow

[thorn willow]

check out the Software Manager, and get acquainted. Also I really urge you to get acquainted to Synaptic package manager, as it is extremely useful for searching up what version of something you have, or installing or locking packages from future updates. and also uninstalling.

[drifting parrot]

software manager is kinda like the app store, looks good, but im kinda acquainted to installing things myself

[drifting parrot]

i see

they are similar to windows, but somehow better

[thorn willow]

synaptic is the best way to check system dependency files and/or get them

[drifting parrot]

hmm i see, i just use this for school tbh

[thorn willow]

well anyway have fun.. dont forget to do a Timeshift backup (dont save your Home folder with that program) Timeshift is great to have a safety in case u mess up the linux installation

[drifting parrot]

btw, im entering hs, its online so i needed to get this installed asap, i start next monday :))

[thorn willow]

and use the Backup Files program separately if there's things that are precious to you in the Home folder

[drifting parrot]

i mean i will keep my mint usb safe too

[thorn willow]

the mint usb.. if it is Ventoy, u can save other files to it

[drifting parrot]

nah, again, all of my important stuff is in a usb that i only use disconnected from wifi

[drifting parrot]

i see

[thorn willow]

the ventoy stick is good for boot repair (but ur not dual booting anyway so u should be fine)

[drifting parrot]

yeah

is there anything like win defender in here? default antivirus

or sm like that, i do not like most antivirus bc they slow things down

[thorn willow]

if u gonna use the laptop at school on other WiFI networks, then see if GUFW is installed ( a firewall software) if it's not, install it, and enable it.

[drifting parrot]

i do have a system firewall

i guess i should be fine with ot

[thorn willow]

where is this system firewall?

[drifting parrot]

cortafuegos is firewall, so yeah, its that, im gonna enable it

[thorn willow]

i see it (that's GUFW from the looks of it.) just gotta turn on the enable switch

[thorn willow]

how did you make this? with Ventoy or something else?

the USB thing, I mean.

[drifting parrot]

etcher

[drifting parrot]

yep, as simple as that

[thorn willow]

oh in that case, you cannot add more files to the USB stick.

[drifting parrot]

yeah i cant

the usb says its 5mb, lmao

[thorn willow]

5 GB

[drifting parrot]

should've used rufus

no, the usb is 8gb, after using etcher it says its 5mb

it kinda trashed it but it works for live

[thorn willow]

no, u should use Ventoy if u dont have many usb sticks. (cuz it can make it as a boot media, while still keeping ordinary use storage available)

although I think Rufus might have similar functionality to keep the dirve not totally locked/ unusable for other files

[drifting parrot]

yeah, btw how do i get my whole 8gb back lmao

[thorn willow]

exactly 😛

[drifting parrot]

ok i formated it with linux

it should work, if not im fucked and i buy another one

[thorn willow]

u have the mint edge iso kept safe somewhere else?

[drifting parrot]

i already copied it to a hard drive

i could give the usb another use

ngl

[thorn willow]

ok well what format did u do with linux?

[drifting parrot]

let me see

[thorn willow]

check in "Disks" app

[drifting parrot]

ok i got my 8gb back

:))

[thorn willow]

yeah but what format did u do?

[drifting parrot]

fat32

[thorn willow]

ok

[drifting parrot]

omg this screen when taking a ss is so annoying i just want it copied to clipboard omfg

anyways, 8 gigs

[thorn willow]

just remember Fat32 is universal, but also cannot support any file bigger than 4 GiB

[drifting parrot]

yeah, just small files, its ok tho

anyways thank u soooo much, i could've never figured it out with ur help, now i am at linux :))

[thorn willow]

yeah don't lose ur Mint edge ISO. it's better if u did make the usb with ventoy, then u have it as an emergency boot disk, PLUS have ~5 GB room left for other small stuff

anyway ttyl

[drifting parrot]

ventoy is kinda like rufus then

?

[thorn willow]

it's more transparent, and easy to add 2nd or 3rd ISO's without re-flashing all

[drifting parrot]

i see

well, im gonna start exploring this, tysm

[thorn willow]

yeah if u make it, check ventoy.net for the downloads section, : the tar.gz file is the package for linux.

AND - i believe this is important for you, if u run up the ventoy installer, u must go into Options, Partition Style: set to GPT (for UEFI bootups)

once installed, u can just copy/paste the ISO file like any file to the blank exFAT partition it creates

[drifting parrot]

ok, i see

ty