#Stuck at grub

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short granite
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I don't know how to make it boot linux mint

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idle coral
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tell us more about your system. Is it doing this after you installed Mint and it was working fine? is it a Dual-boot system? what recent changes happened that may have caused this?

still nova
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Grub does this when it cannot find any viable boot option. So as Stunner says, we need more information to work with, other than "PC ded".

spark ruin
short granite
idle coral
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or u may have done fsck wrong from the live usb..
-in live startup.. go to desktop, open terminal, type lsblk to see all disks and their dev names

still nova
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Wait, laptop shut down by mistake? Was that during the setup?

idle coral
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  • in live session desktop, open file manager, and click the ssd or hard drive that has the installed Mint on it. (this mounts that drive easily so the system can check it)
  • go back in terminal and say for example that Mint system is on /dev/sdb2.. .then type fsck /dev/sdb2
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can also try the same step sdb1 as that is partition 1 of sdb, which likely has a FAT32 filesystem for EFI (bootloader)

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ie - fsck /dev/sdb1

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but u have to know what the installed OS disk is called in linux precisely..... Check Disks app it will tell device names if u dont like what lsblk shows

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it might be nvme0 something if ur ursing nvme drive

fossil tapir
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@short granite this

idle coral
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sample:

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I don't use UEFI, so there's no EFI partition on disk. in your case fsck both the efi partition, and the mint partition.

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one at a time

short granite
short granite
idle coral
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but anyway, run it on the EFI partition of that disk with the install. it should be a fat32

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heck run it again on the mint one too with the syntax i wrote (change to ur drive device name as appropriate)

idle coral
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if filesys check finds no errors anywhere, and the boot issue persists, then run the boot repair app from live mode.

short granite
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I wiped everything

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And tried reinstalling

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Now it's showing this

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@idle coral

idle coral
short granite
idle coral
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exit n reformat the drive

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use gparted

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in the live environment

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make it ext4 format

short granite
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Yup done it

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Then i made efi, swap and ext4 partition and then it fails while installing

idle coral
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run Disks

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and check SMART data on the drive from the upper menu

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n run tests

short granite
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Aight

idle coral
short granite
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Still running

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@idle coral

idle coral
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ah a slow hard drive. and already 7264 bad sectors

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and that's only 10% of the way into the test XD

short granite
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;-;

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Is this the reason?

idle coral
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likely. let it finish

short granite
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Can we fix it?

idle coral
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well i figure let it finish. it should mark bad sectors. then u can try to install OS again

short granite
idle coral
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take a snapshot at the end of the test.. also scroll down, i think it tells more stuff

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i can see it's been power-cycled over 6200 times.. it must be many years old

still nova
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For what it's worth, that failure profile looks like from one of those "I die after 2 years and one week" Seagate Barracudas they put into OEM boxes a lot. You should mentally prepare for this drive to pass into legend soon.

spark ruin
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@still nova you mean the hybrid HDDs?

still nova
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No, regular Seagate Barracuda spindle drives, cheapest of the cheap. For a while, they were in 80% of all OEM PCs, and they very regularly died in their third year, since warranty only ran for two years. I have replaced a lot of them with SSDs.

short granite
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I overnight test failed

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Didn't get past 10%

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@idle coral

short granite
idle coral
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eh...

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i think it's time for new

short granite
short granite
idle coral
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there may be other utilities u could use to comb over the drive , but idk if u wanna bother

short granite
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I guess I'll buy a really cheap at least 200gb hdd

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Just to make it run

idle coral
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dont buy too cheap a brand

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ADATA is quite decent n not overpriced

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n look for one that includes a DRAM cache

short granite
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I already have a pc but I'm trying to make this laptop so i can take it to places

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Just for work

idle coral
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is there any other drive?

short granite
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Nope just this

idle coral
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does it have a memory card reader?

short granite
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Umm

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Wait I'll show the model

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Mine is 8gb ram variant

idle coral
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I could show u a way to run it in the mean time, no hard drive

short granite
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Will it be cheaper?

idle coral
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yeah but just for a while

short granite
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Okay that would be helpful

idle coral
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just like if u need the laptop to check facebook or check an email or even log in here

short granite
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;-;

idle coral
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what was the last linux distro u were using?

short granite
idle coral
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yeah this method would work for that, but please dont leave so many browser tabs open huh

short granite
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Before i used to use linux mint cinnamon

idle coral
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ok mint xfce would be fine

short granite
idle coral
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so u'll need another computer to prepare a mint stick with persistence

short granite
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Persistence?

idle coral
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yeah

short granite
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I already have xfce on the usb stick

idle coral
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it's a method to save sessions in a live environment

short granite
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Oh

idle coral
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is the stick made with ventoy?

short granite
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I used belena etcher to flash it

short granite
idle coral
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oh if u dont know then u didnt use it

short granite
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Probably

idle coral
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do u have another pc to remake ur stick?

short granite
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Yep i do

idle coral
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this Persistence thing (as shown in step 4 there) works on Ubuntu-based distros.. which applies to Mint

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u can use that to reflash the stick with the proper ISO image, then set UP TO 4 GiB of persistence on it

short granite
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Only that much storage I'll be able to use to store data?

idle coral
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maybe just do 2 or 2.5 .. it takes less time to create it

idle coral
short granite
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What about softwares like postman/Slack?

idle coral
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but I also recommend saving to google-drive or OneDrive ur MOST important data simply because well .. just cuz

idle coral
short granite
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Flatpack are huge(over 1gb?) but snaps are smaller i think

idle coral
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forget those then

short granite
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So just web based then?

idle coral
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but for any online work yeah u'll have access.. it'll remember ur website cookies, etc

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u can even install a diff wallpaper or theme

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and it will remember the next time u boot to that stick

short granite
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Okay i guess i can manage

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How many tabs do u think i can keep open?

idle coral
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it takes about 4-5 minutes for the program to flash the ISO, then about 10-15 minutes to flash the persistent drive space.. then it's done

idle coral
short granite
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If i use more tabs will it crash?

idle coral
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no but it may slow to a crawl

short granite
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Ah

idle coral
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then maybe crash .. cuz the more junk cache (cashe is disk data) it needs to store, the more hard it makes the USB flash memory work to write/record it

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on a portable SSD, it's no issue at all, but on a basic usb stick u gotta run light

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u can give it a spin for a day or two.. up to u.

short granite
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Hmm understandable

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I just wanna make it work until winter is over

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After that I'll be fine working from my pc room

idle coral
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im trying to remember what Linux Lite is based on

short granite
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Cuz it's too cold in there and i just want to work sitting under sunlight at daylight ;-;

idle coral
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and i have used it.. it's pretty darn zippy

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and uses the xfce environment

idle coral
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oh i have another easy way too if ur interested

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that may give a little better performance

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but that depends on if ur hard drive is up to the job

short granite
short granite
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It's super slow

idle coral
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can u write any files to it at all (say from a live session)

short granite
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Tbh i wouldn't trust it

idle coral
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i cant remember if u tried reformatting it or not

short granite
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Everything

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I have to get a separate usb stick for this

idle coral
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u know what u should try rn. download mx linux.

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how fast is ur internet download speeds usually?

short granite
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Is it good?

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30mbps

idle coral
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it's good a) in general and b) for persistent live mode

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that's pretty fast

idle coral
short granite
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Okay

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I'll u know after i get it on my usb

idle coral
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idk if ur tired or not

short granite
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Have to get a usb first

idle coral
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but i was gonna show u a way to turn ur existing USB into a multiboot drive

short granite
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Isn't that overkill?

idle coral
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if it's already 8 GB or more, it could hold MX, Mint xfce, AND linux lite all at once

short granite
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I think for me one is fine

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As long as i can get my work done

idle coral
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ok then if u wanna try mx it has a way to pick from the boot menu (says hit the F5 key for persistence) then that saves (and u make the save file.. 3 to 5 GB on ur hard drive.

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and give it a test run like that..

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if u REALLY REALLY dont trust ur hard drive at all anymore, then instead, get Linux Lite, and use that link above pendrivelinux.com - Universal USB installer to make the usb stick itself persistent

short granite
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What's the difference between mx linux and linux lite?

idle coral
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mx is debian based. UUI wont work for it to do persistence

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lite is ubuntu based

short granite
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Then i would rather use linux lite..

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Makes my life easier

idle coral
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however mx can do its own persistent save (even if u flashed it with Etcher, lets say) but it needs a bit of space on the hard drive

short granite
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Oh i see

idle coral
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by a bit of space.. i mean anywhere from a GB or two, up to 12, say

short granite
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I've been stuck on installing mint for past few days and i think it's time the hdd to sleep

idle coral
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hehe

short granite
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Can i take out the hdd?

idle coral
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ya aight then. well just be sure to save all ur very important stuff to cloud storage in case the persistent usb jams up bad..

short granite
idle coral
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until u get a new internal drive.

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and yes u can take it out

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good to see the size n connector.

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it's probably 2.5" SATA

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the Disks app would tell u full details if u booted live, and checkd the app

short granite
idle coral
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no i meant the usb thing can hold u over til u buy a new internal drive

short granite
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Okay

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Thanks a lot ;-;

idle coral
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alright cya gn

still nova
idle coral
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hi @short granite any updates?

short granite
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I haven't had the time to log on windows and get linux lite on the stick yet

idle coral
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oh ok np

idle coral
short granite
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If there was a linux software for flashing linux lite to usb

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Would definitely do it right away

tiny mortar
short granite
idle coral
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it's available from Ventoy.net for either Windows or Linux. if u get the linux version, then get the tar.gz file from its downloads section. i believe latest version is 1.096

tiny mortar
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@short granite I highly recommend that you use Ventoy when youhave a usb boot drive. it will make your life a lot easier

short granite
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Oki will do 👍

idle coral
short granite
tiny mortar
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Heyas~ did everything work out in the end?

idle coral
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wanna see a pic of my Lite? I put the Chicago transform pack on it

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the Chicago95 / Chicago Fire project

short granite
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theme pack?

idle coral
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then after a long while on that, I just changed the style back to Adapta Nokto dark

idle coral
short granite
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dyum sure show

idle coral
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it changes, fonts, titlebars, and even terminal font to look like old Windows

short granite
idle coral
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what?

short granite
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nooo don't go back to windows ;-;

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aside the joke

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looks pretty intresting

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i didn't know u could change terminal theme too

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retro windows setup

idle coral
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it even adds a few chime sounds 😛

still nova
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I still remember when somebody wrote in an old forum: Stop using Windows. Come to Linux, and start using doors, like normal people.

idle coral
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heh

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Just pictured Principal Skinner using the window in 'Steamed Hams' to go grab Krusty burgers

short granite
idle coral
short granite
idle coral
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what's new?

short granite
idle coral
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it looks like a fun, cute game. Did u get a gaming computer now?

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how are you playing it?

short granite