#Nos Bazar App

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tight pond
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Hey I wanted to suggest a nostale Bazar app for the phone or what ever. I think there is no need to say much more and a lot of people would be glad to check the bazar while they are working 😂

tidal hatch
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opening the chance to have automated trading bots. i like the idea

tight pond
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@tidal hatch A little bit pessimistic don‘t u think ? I mean if u r skilled enough u could always program a bot even for normal gaming isn’t it ? But anyways I understand ur point of the view. Still I’m pretty sure there a people who bot rn in the game and our team support team would find them.

tidal hatch
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sure, you could. but its harder. An (web)app has an api. You can also do request in parallel. If you use the game in between, you need to wait for every request. and in my experience, the game bazar is slow. and then you need to do some image text detection to fins values.
Do able, definetly, but not as easy and performant and not always correct with the text detection.

hollow anvil
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The fact that an app use an api (and even more about a web app) isn't 100% true, it depends of the way you're designing it. Anyway, there is what we call "rate limit" which would prevent your trading bot from doing whatever they want by limiting their get requests for example.

tidal hatch
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sure rate limit would be one thing, but how much can you limit it, so the normal usage is not impacted?

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and yea, there are other ways then a api but thats probably the easiest way if you want to do it as an app

hollow anvil
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You can do a whitelist, 1 request per HWID per second (yeah, because you can easily bypass if you're using ip to do it with an easy proxy system that can be written in not even 10 lines)

tidal hatch
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even that is easy 😄

hollow anvil
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Even the fact of bypassing the client bazaar slowdown can be done, it's not easy and you need to have reverse engineering skills (that I don't have on my side) but, if it's not done server-side, then you can bypass it

tidal hatch
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i guess its not slow because of artificial slowdown. i bet it's slow because of the database and how many people are using it at the same time.

hollow anvil
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You're probably right looking at the date NosTale was released, it's probably not using big-data technologies such as kafka and spark

jagged lagoon
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I mean if you think like this then we can never have anything because 'people might abuse it', whoever wants to bot bazar is already doing it and this QOL change is a huge positive that overshadows the negatives it might have, which are probably already existing

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Many mmo's have a mobile app to check baz etc and it's honestly really nice specially for a trade-heavy game such as nostale where you get most of your relevant gear from other players

sullen pilot
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I like this idea, even if it could be abused by some bad guys. But as the previous commenter said, there are always some bad guys and yes, you can always abuse anything somehow (especially in this old game). But here I also see good people outnumbering those. It's a cool feature in terms of trading that actually makes us more flexible, since a lot of people have phones these days and can use them literally anywhere.
Suggestion: Isn't it possible to bind accounts to a phone number like some other apps do?

Besides that, having an app in the Playstore(or even AppStore) might be good advertising to get more people play with us.

hollow anvil
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You could bind an account to a phone number, however it won't resolve the problem, if they have to do it, the best way is to do a rate limit